View Full Version : How come players never talk?
rocketJAM
07-23-2004, 06:36 PM
Whenever I play at the arcade, even if me and the other guy(s) plunk down several dollars into the machine, nobody ever talks. I get strange looks when I say as much as "good game". I'm not sure why, but people never give eachother tips, talk or make hardly any expression at all unless they are playing against a friend. Why is this? There is of course that "disinterested 'top dog'" profile, the player who wins all the time and acts like he doesn't care about the game (he will never speak, and gazes around the arcade between matches). But I don't want to be that guy and I don't understand why so many people act that way. Are street fighter players just cocky antisocial jerks? Or is there something I'm missing.
Gasaraki
07-23-2004, 06:43 PM
I talk occasionally but i've never gotten wierd looks, I always try to say good game as well.
Skyler
07-23-2004, 06:43 PM
Well, the players dont know each other, so I guess no talking there. I usually talk to my buddies if they lose on what they were doing this and that, but most of the time, everybody is just watching and listening and all. If you want too, then you can try talking to them, but dont talk smack or you'll have to back it up, but then again, you can meet some new friends:D
rocketJAM
07-23-2004, 06:49 PM
Well I can understand if you're playing Random Thug at Ghetto City Mall arcade, but I'm talking about even at university arcades.
Gen2000
07-23-2004, 07:25 PM
It's kind of hard to give tips out of the blue. If you win and try to give someone tips some take that as an insult, if you lose and try to give tips the opponent won't listen cause of course you lost so what do you know.
At best I say "good game" unless I know the opponent.
rocketJAM
07-23-2004, 07:28 PM
I admit it would be wierd to give tips out of the blue, yeah. I want tips (cause I always lose) but I never get to ask for them because I'm turned off by the "silent disinterested pro" type that people always assume.
Cable3858
07-23-2004, 07:41 PM
It just depends on the arcade man. I live in a small town with a small community of players. MVC2 is the main game here. If a newcomer with potential comes to the arcade. I'll speak to him and if he is friendly then great, perhaps ill try to get to know him show him some things and try to get him to be apart of our towns MVC2 community. But if I was in a big town with tons of comp/players and I could get comp whenever I went to the 'cade. Then perhaps things would be different. Dunno this is just my opinion on it.
chicken
07-23-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by rocketJAM
I admit it would be wierd to give tips out of the blue, yeah. I want tips (cause I always lose) but I never get to ask for them because I'm turned off by the "silent disinterested pro" type that people always assume. I'm guessing you were the Yang player? Are you relatively new to visiting arcades with competition? I'd hate for you to have an ill impression of the BEARcade because you're not used to certain mannerisms.
Either way, if you went out of your way to ask any of the players that were around the 3S machine a question, you would've most likely gotten a polite answer (but people have been known to get starstruck and abuse this welcome).
rocketJAM
07-23-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by chicken
I'm guessing you were the Yang player? Are you relatively new to visiting arcades with competition? I'd hate for you to have an ill impression of the BEARcade because you're not used to certain mannerisms.
Either way, if you went out of your way to ask any of the players that were around the 3S machine a question, you would've most likely gotten a polite answer (but people have been known to get starstruck and abuse this welcome).
Hmm, yeah that was me. No don't worry the BEARcade is a cool place, I've been there a few times before. And It's not that I'm not used to certain mannerisms (every arcade is like this) I'm just not sure why... I mean if you spend an hour playing games with the same person I feel obligated to at least say something, not ignore them.
GalzPanic
07-23-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by rocketJAM
Hmm, yeah that was me. No don't worry the BEARcade is a cool place, I've been there a few times before. And It's not that I'm not used to certain mannerisms (every arcade is like this) I'm just not sure why... I mean if you spend an hour playing games with the same person I feel obligated to at least say something, not ignore them.
Well, no one's obligated to say anything to anyone, but I feel what you're talkin about. I'm one of those people who tend to say nothing, but if someone says something to me, I get all gregarious and stuff. I guess we should all do more to get to know each other, so we can all still be playing fighting games when we're 60!
SNAKESHOTPEOPLE
07-23-2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by GalzPanic
Well, no one's obligated to say anything to anyone, but I feel what you're talkin about. I'm one of those people who tend to say nothing, but if someone says something to me, I get all gregarious and stuff. I guess we should all do more to get to know each other, so we can all still be playing fighting games when we're 60!
Yeah, true. Most of the times people give me mean looks and look very pissed at me. Some even ignore me when I say anything to them like good game or something. People take the fighting game too competetivley and try to ignore giveing too much advice or just keep to them selves. They should atg least talk to the people of their same interest.
UltraDavid
07-23-2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by rocketJAM
Hmm, yeah that was me. No don't worry the BEARcade is a cool place, I've been there a few times before. And It's not that I'm not used to certain mannerisms (every arcade is like this) I'm just not sure why... I mean if you spend an hour playing games with the same person I feel obligated to at least say something, not ignore them.
Some of the Third Strike players at the Bearcade are kinda assy. That one really short Yang player comes to mind. Most of them are pretty cool though. I'm not in Berkeley now and won't be until wintertime (studying abroad in Paris), or else I'd come down and say what's up. I used to be the silent headphones-wearing type of guy in arcades, but I'm not (as much) like that anymore. Go out of your way to say what's up to the other guys, they're pretty cool.
Edit: I saw in the Bearcade thread you're writing about Ricky Ortiz. Haha yeah, whenever I play that dude he's always doing the look-around-cause-he's-badass-and-wants-some-real-competition thing. I don't know him very well, unlike some of the other Bearcade guys, but I always ask him questions when I play against him and he's always answered them nicely. Always seemed like a pretty nice guy. Except that one time I won that KoF 2003 tournament by beating him 4 games to 1. I think he was pissed cause he's super awesome and I totally suck but got really lucky haha.
Kataklysmic
07-23-2004, 09:56 PM
I prefer to stay silent unless someone asks me how to do something like RCing or a specific character's super. It doesn't mean I don't like the company.
I'm one of those players that choose characters that hardly anyone plays, so I'm probably considered more interesting to watch where I go to. I got people chatting with me before because of it, and it wasn't bad.
The only person I'd speak up to though is Dr. B, since it was my brother that took the liberty in formally meeting him.
Akuma4Real
07-23-2004, 09:59 PM
I've made some cool friends from talking to them at the arcades. There are times when the other person doesn't want to talk and you gotta respect that. Try not to take offense to that, it's not worth it.
I remember playing some guy at MvsC and I beat him twice..the second time it was a really close game and I told him "Good Game." and he didn't say anything...next thing you know he plays me again..this time he taunts me after killing off one of my characters..it was a close game again but he won. I don't know what his problem was, but I got over it.
I usually try not to talk when I am the person who is winning because some people get real mad when they lose and you talking is only going to piss them off even more.
HellMUT
07-23-2004, 10:20 PM
when someone is talking to me, i pretend i'm listening. i cant hear for shit in the arcade. im deaf as hell.
Korigama
07-23-2004, 11:05 PM
I usually keep quiet, with the exception of people I know. I don't tend to go out of my way to greet them, though (i.e., interrupting a game in progress). I answer questions regarding the games if I'm asked.
chicken
07-24-2004, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by UltraDavid
Except that one time I won that KoF 2003 tournament by beating him 4 games to 1. I think he was pissed cause he's super awesome and I totally suck but got really lucky haha. You know I don't take sides or anything, so I'm saying this only to prevent any further misunderstandings: I would let that incident die because you don't know the half.
Spider_Sting
07-24-2004, 02:33 AM
Naw I like meetin new people and shit if Im not in my hometown... always nice to meet new people who share the same interests as u (ie marvel) so why not be nice n chillin instead of bein a complete dick...
i always say good game anyways... lol
Blackheart2097
07-24-2004, 02:42 AM
if u win and talk means u're talking shit
if you lose and talk means u're complaining
9/10 people look at it that way believe it or not.
me i just say silent after i win or lose. sometimes i smirk here and there....even when i do lose.
i don't see the need to talk, then again i'm not a person that talks a lot. i just put my $$$ in and play the game.
Magnetro
07-24-2004, 04:56 AM
haha, anti-social... there are people that are just messed up for their 'reason's' but everyone has a good one or just enough of one to do it. Usually with me I just don't know the guy and I'm too lazy (that's a bad one) but there are also a lot of dickheads who take the game WAY TOO seriously but whatever.:bluu: :lame: :lame:
EVERDRED
07-24-2004, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by Akuma4Real
I've made some cool friends from talking to them at the arcades. There are times when the other person doesn't want to talk and you gotta respect that. Try not to take offense to that, it's not worth it.
I remember playing some guy at MvsC and I beat him twice..the second time it was a really close game and I told him "Good Game." and he didn't say anything...next thing you know he plays me again..this time he taunts me after killing off one of my characters..it was a close game again but he won. I don't know what his problem was, but I got over it.
I usually try not to talk when I am the person who is winning because some people get real mad when they lose and you talking is only going to piss them off even more.
yea that would happen to me too, i played this guy's yun who's pretty good and we'll go back and forth winning and losing, then i'll get him in an aegis trap or something and break his guard and win. instead of putting in a quarter he goes to the machine just to exchange 1 quarter for a token... i guess he was mad cus he couldnt sit at the machine and just have a win streak because i would streak for 3-4 wins and he would streak for the same or less, i guess ppl get mad once they realize they'll be spending more money to play especially if they r playing comp that r as good as they r. when he won he would mash the controllers wildly and still stare at the screen like he was mad... lol i wanted to say to chill but in those situations its best to put another quarter in and beat him. at the end when he had to leave since we broke even (pretty much hehehe) he shook my hand and said good game.
CLuBBERz
07-24-2004, 07:16 AM
hardcore sf people
most ppl = anti social, alright man
how many ppl do u know are normal enough to join an underground circuit of fighting games the average human being doesnt even know they exist! u tell anyone your in competitions for SF and they look at you funny lol
you gotta expect some wierdos in the underground -FIGHTING -GAME -spend every night at the arcade shit
then jump on these forums if they know your name and try 2 talk to you like hey good games the other night when we played for a whole hour and a half etc etc like this is a meeting ground instead of real life situations.
all i gotta say is try talking 2 people but beware more hardcore players are , the more scary it gets (ppl dressing up as sf char.eating sf. all they talk about. how sexy chun li is etc)
Jin Cena
07-24-2004, 07:39 AM
There's one guy who I played just in the mall, who I think goes semi easy on me yet semi rushes me. I haven't beat him yet(he is pretty good) but he does yell out stuff like "oh you almost had me." Or even "You have the right technique" (when I was playing Cammy and Blackheart.)
As for myself I usually say "good game", whether I win or lose but mostly against people who I know or have played against before.
Rhio2k
07-24-2004, 07:57 AM
What I like to do is play cvs2 while watching people play the game next to me...I'm fucking people up, and then they notice half the time, I'm not even looking. I get a playful punch in the arm and a joking "You little bitch!" as they leave.
ShinNeosnake
07-24-2004, 08:13 AM
I go to Chinatown Fair and I've been going for a year now so I know some of the CvS2 players I play with, But I only talk to a couple of them, and thats because I talk to them outside of CvS2, so on the sidelines or something, we'll just chat about the game or just random crap.
rocketJAM
07-24-2004, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by UltraDavid
Edit: I saw in the Bearcade thread you're writing about Ricky Ortiz.
No, I'm talking about anyone, everywhere at any arcade.
Anyways good points everyone, I hadn't thought of it in some of these ways. I guess it sort of makes sense now. I'm not the sort of guy who gets angry easily so I didn't understand but I guess if you're competing against a stranger, anything you say could be misinterpreted.
UltraDavid
07-24-2004, 12:27 PM
Will do, Bihn.
Philth
07-24-2004, 03:43 PM
I used to talk all the time...
But now, I dunno, its like a distraction.
Ill talk when im not playing, but if im on the machine, gotta keep focus.
When im high I get distracted real easy...
And I usually high while im playin.
N-Ken
07-24-2004, 04:11 PM
If the other player isn't an ass or a crybaby or what have you I will always say good games after a set, in between games I might strike up a bit of conversation, and if they want to talk then cool, if it's obvious they don't want to talk I don't push it. I will often shake hands too when someone is leaving and I've net them for the first time. I usually get to play against people who aren't asses, so I usually share at least a few words with my opponent.
Shin Ace
07-24-2004, 04:28 PM
In-game, I'll say "nice", or "shit", and even "GOD NO!!!". At loading screens, I allow myself to make jokes. If I'm watching a game and so are other people, I will gladly discuss strategies, including my own. Trash talk like mad when people are battling at my house and so forth.
Although one time, I see this dude online who says he's coming to my home town and looking for some gamers. So I'm at the arcade, see a stranger who's obviously from out of town(so I know right away his screen name), say wassup and my name...then I could hear the crickets... Needless to say, I was not sharing my weed with this stranger. The most I got out of him was a 2 second glance. I should have checked for a pulse but his hands were moving, so I skipped that.
Kataklysmic
07-24-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Blackheart2097
if u win and talk means u're talking shit
if you lose and talk means u're complaining
9/10 people look at it that way believe it or not.
Yeah. That's why I don't talk in my arcade thread anymore. :bluu:
Pat the Great
07-24-2004, 05:59 PM
it's because most of us like to keep up the facade that we'd rather be doing something else but we've got nothing better to do.
and, hell, unless i'm playing against someone i know OUTSIDE of the arcade i usually won't initiate any conversation cuz, hell, i'm there to play games, and an arcade is a terrible place to have a conversation.
Drunken Master
07-24-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Gen2000
It's kind of hard to give tips out of the blue. If you win and try to give someone tips some take that as an insult, if you lose and try to give tips the opponent won't listen cause of course you lost so what do you know.
I hate how the local schmoes here don't take advice.. I tell them again, and again.. you can SHAKE out of tempest! it's true! Just mash hard like you're really trying to win when the super starts!
Even the stupid retards that equate violent brainless mashing with skill don't take heed. When the super starts they stop mashing.. and look at me like I'm insulting them when I tell them to keep mashing.
morons. i'm not even good, yet the fools that try soooo damn hard at the arcade can't wake up and realize what the fuck is going on.
Gen2000
07-25-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Drunken Master
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From my experience, only 2 out of 10 people will actually take the advice in that easily. When someone loses, some random angry emotion is usually going through their head so it's hard for them to actually take in the advice you give them on the spot like that. They look like they're listening but it's basically just going in one ear and out the other.
Originally posted by Blackheart2097
if u win and talk means u're talking shit
if you lose and talk means u're complaining
9/10 people look at it that way believe it or not.
Yeah, one of the main reasons I just say "good game" when playing unless I know that person.
merdoc
07-25-2004, 01:58 PM
In the chinatownfair i was playing MvC2 and i won and said "good game" to some guy, after i said that he Punch me in my face madd BADLY! Later on the chinese guy kicked the guy out.:(
epsilon_
07-25-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Drunken Master
I hate how the local schmoes here don't take advice.. I tell them again, and again.. you can SHAKE out of tempest! it's true! Just mash hard like you're really trying to win when the super starts!
Even the stupid retards that equate violent brainless mashing with skill don't take heed. When the super starts they stop mashing.. and look at me like I'm insulting them when I tell them to keep mashing.
morons. i'm not even good, yet the fools that try soooo damn hard at the arcade can't wake up and realize what the fuck is going on. I HEAR you there. At my arcade no one listens to my advice in CvS2, even though I pound on them and they can't beat me.
Rhio2k
07-25-2004, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by epsilon_
I HEAR you there. At my arcade no one listens to my advice in CvS2, even though I pound on them and they can't beat me.
My advice sounds like this "You, ah...you MIGHT wanna block this....*KO*...or not. Whatever."
sHiNeRiK
07-25-2004, 08:19 PM
I usually don't talk to ppl unless I know them or if they ask me something.
They might get mad if you give them tips. =\
ein05
09-22-2004, 12:07 AM
i always say what's up when i approach the cabinet & say peace when i bounce. i try to exchange words like.
u play a lot?(if i've never seen them b4. trying 2 make a new friend)
u play wit a crew?
if i lose...i'm not mad...just say damn & pop in 2 mo quarters.
cuz @ the cades in richmond, it's usually 1 or 2 fighting games & the rest is "skee-ball" (lol). so since we huddled in this lil corner we 3 or 4 ppl might as well talk.
yes4me
09-22-2004, 12:28 AM
If I am really in a good mood, I will talk to you... but what do you want to talk about? The weather? Iraq? The US election? Seriously, I don't expect to talk to kids about serious stuffs non-game related.
But seriously, when I try to talk to people, I usually get the "no comprendo" your english because of my french accent, or the stupid answers to any question... like "how do you do that sentinel combo?"... oh it is just "superjump and press HP". WTF is this?
In other cases, I get these great players (who know me too well) beating the crap out of my scrub skills, and leaving the game right just to remind me that I suck. You don't expect me to talk nicely about that, do you?
The rest of the time, I am here to learn something and you just pissed me off by playing me. For example, I would be trying like crazy to roll cancel or triangle jump and you just decided to play me to show off your skills, and I seen a lot of my opponent just leaving the game right after like I am some trash. Yeah... I hate you too.
But then I get some guy (that I know will beat me) and sometimes I feel like trash talking... and that's pretty much as far as the conversation will go. It goes something like this:
"Ohhhh I fucking kill your cable. It is OVER. Run away". And 5 seconds later my whole team is gone. Nothing really unexpected.
insanelee
09-22-2004, 12:24 PM
yea ppl should talk more, i talk hella while playing [some may say i talk shit] but hey its all in good fun right?! i mean we are there to play games casually, hell i dont say a word in tourney matches unless im not involved [as seen in some cvs2 svgl vids (i cant believe you haters thought i was annoying)] .. . talk man! its all in good fun.
bronson.
Moogleborg
09-22-2004, 12:42 PM
I rarely go to the Golfland at Milpitas thats near my home, but I speak at times, mostly to thank someone for a good game! ^^
Smokey
09-22-2004, 12:56 PM
Usually when I play mvc2 I dont talk to anybody especially if im winning I just dont give a fuck about anybody to me a challenger is an enemy that I have to destroy =P unless its my friend other then that I dont care if the person talks to me ill reply in a friendly matter but Ill never talk to anybody.
The Beholder
09-22-2004, 07:22 PM
well as for me i usually dont talk at all, but not in a rude way...just normal player.
there's few assholes who make themselves something while they are so so Dum, these kinda people i like to fight and make them a funy joker for all the croweds...
i remmember one day at the arcade, i was just mindin my Own bussiness and playin Tekken(T4).My first Player Is Kazuya and then Marduk and lee,so sometimess people diss judge Marduk(nobody know me in here right :D?.....hehee)...amm anyways, he was just mad because i was winning, so before a match start i tried to quickly advice him for something, i told him dont do that when i do this...etc.
His answer was, fuck u Son of a bitch! i know how to play better than you, you dont know how to play and.......etc lol
In my oppinoin , i sometimes give a rude face deending on my mode....sometimes the arcade are full of geeks who donot deserve any help, and sometimes full of respectfull people that we all share stuff together.
Copy X
09-22-2004, 07:38 PM
Well it's kind of like these forums or when you are trying to get into contact with the other members of these boards. Let's say you watch some one's vid and you want to say something like " How did you do that?" or " was he really that tough to beat?" then you ask them and they either answer by being a good srk member, flame you to death, or just completely ignore you. Same thing applies in the arcade. I be winning at all the fighting games here in Virginia as well as in El Salvador( hardly any SF games there, grew up playing KOF) and when I win they just get angry or don't say nothing at all. Some even start cussing for no reason when it's just a game. It just means you have been playing the game longer or have the game down to it's mechanics and know how the game is played. Unfortunately, playing against a complete stranger is like you are betting money against each other and no one likes to lose.
UnCauzi
09-22-2004, 11:38 PM
1. Look at the other persons expressions, if they look like their having fun then talk.
2. If they are, real quiet, losing badly, or appear distant don't talk.
The biggest rule of thumb I think is that in order to have a conversation with another gamer first you have to earn their respect. Seriously, if you suck to much a hardcore gamer will look down on you and think you're wasting their time. If you're too good a casual or lesser gamer will think you're a geek and that you're patronizing them.
So how do you rectify this?
In the hardcore gamer situation you can't rectify this unless you have yet to bring your "A" game but if that fails even you have another avenue. They might be all for talking about how good they are, who the top players in the area are, and the latest "strategies" if their on SRK or some shit. In other words good players like to be recognized as superior, once you get past their ego by stroking it you can then converse.
With Casual or Average players the best way to make things conversation freindly is to play teams against them that won't make them think to hard. Seriously no general game player wants to think a whole hell of a lot. You might even want to do stupid things during the game to lighten the mood. I'm not a MvC2 god or anything but try leaving the top tiers at home or at least on the last leg of your team. ESPECIALLY if the person your about to play looks like he knows about the game and doesn't have a team built to fight against general top tier strats.
In other words if I pick:
Omega Red/Sabretooth/Wolverine
and you come to the machine and pick like:
Magneto/Sent/Capcom
Beat the living shit out of me and say "Good Game." You just
made yourself into a patronizing asshole, good game my ass it's
not like the casual player hasn't seen that style of play a million
times. Sure maybe you only know how to or WANT to play top tier teams but he's probably playing a wacko team because he doesn't FEEL like having top tier fights.
my 2 cents.
ein05
09-22-2004, 11:52 PM
1. Look at the other persons expressions, if they look like their having fun then talk.
2. If they are, real quiet, losing badly, or appear distant don't talk.
The biggest rule of thumb I think is that in order to have a conversation with another gamer first you have to earn their respect. Seriously, if you suck to much a hardcore gamer will look down on you and think you're wasting their time. If you're too good a casual or lesser gamer will think you're a geek and that you're patronizing them.
So how do you rectify this?
In the hardcore gamer situation you can't rectify this unless you have yet to bring your "A" game but if that fails even you have another avenue. They might be all for talking about how good they are, who the top players in the area are, and the latest "strategies" if their on SRK or some shit. In other words good players like to be recognized as superior, once you get past their ego by stroking it you can then converse.
With Casual or Average players the best way to make things conversation freindly is to play teams against them that won't make them think to hard. Seriously no general game player wants to think a whole hell of a lot. You might even want to do stupid things during the game to lighten the mood. I'm not a MvC2 god or anything but try leaving the top tiers at home or at least on the last leg of your team. ESPECIALLY if the person your about to play looks like he knows about the game and doesn't have a team built to fight against general top tier strats.
In other words if I pick:
Omega Red/Sabretooth/Wolverine
and you come to the machine and pick like:
Magneto/Sent/Capcom
Beat the living shit out of me and say "Good Game." You just
made yourself into a patronizing asshole, good game my ass it's
not like the casual player hasn't seen that style of play a million
times. Sure maybe you only know how to or WANT to play top tier teams but he's probably playing a wacko team because he doesn't FEEL like having top tier fights.
my 2 cents.
i agree
jettmanas
09-23-2004, 12:11 AM
[QUOTE=UnCauzi]1. Look at the other persons expressions, if they look like their having fun then talk.
2. If they are, real quiet, losing badly, or appear distant don't talk.
Yeah, if you're able to judge someone's character off of body language, expression, etc., you can apply this in who to talk to in a variety of situations (asking directions somewhere, a party, etc.)
I don't like shutting off personality/communication and becoming a robot in the arcade, but I've had to depending on the people. I've never played online- seems convenient, but social isolation.
I usually comment after a match if I see an impressive combo, parry, etc. I've never seen before. (Esp. early days of 3S) Really nothing to say about run-of-the-mill top tier characters/patterns.
thedude.com
09-23-2004, 12:39 AM
dudes , what the hell you gonna do to strangers that taunt at you in the games and giggle to his friends and talking about your game skills to his friends ??
what would ya do ??
UncleSid
09-23-2004, 12:44 AM
In other words if I pick:
Omega Red/Sabretooth/Wolverine
and you come to the machine and pick like:
Magneto/Sent/Capcom
Beat the living shit out of me and say "Good Game." You just
made yourself into a patronizing asshole, good game my ass it's
not like the casual player hasn't seen that style of play a million
times. Sure maybe you only know how to or WANT to play top tier teams but he's probably playing a wacko team because he doesn't FEEL like having top tier fights.
my 2 cents.
While i do see your point. But then again i am paying money to the play the game how i want to, If i want to pick Mag/storm/psy everytime and beast newbies then i can. I dont want to have to pay money to play i team i find overall boring. Some people get mad pissed when they lose no matter what team there using and what team they lost against.
Theres this one dude i play agianst and he'll always play low-tier against my mag/stom/psy and will get killed horribly everytime, but he'll still be joking around and having fun while playing. Just becuase you dont wanna fight top-tier dont go to an arcade expecting people to do the same.
As for me, I always try to say good game and talk a little bit, if someone asks for advice i'll give it.
Muskau
09-23-2004, 02:37 AM
You ever tried talking to somebody in an arcade? With DDR, Beatmania, and GuitarFreaks going, you're not hearing shit anyway.
FatalFuryD
09-23-2004, 03:39 AM
dudes , what the hell you gonna do to strangers that taunt at you in the games and giggle to his friends and talking about your game skills to his friends ??
what would ya do ??
That's what Americans like to do. Arcades are safe places. It's not like Korea where it's not uncommon to see a real fight over a match of KoF. Don't chip someone to death intentionally over there.
I don't usually say good game first except for some specific situations when it's OK. I used to, but then I realized that it annoys a lot of folks apparently.
thedude.com
09-23-2004, 03:42 AM
That's what Americans like to do. Arcades are safe places. It's not like Korea where it's not uncommon to see a real fight over a match of KoF. Don't chip someone to death intentionally over there.
I don't usually say good game first except for some specific situations when it's OK. I used to, but then I realized that it annoys a lot of folks apparently.
in singapore , i don't play like that ....
usually turtle players tend to taunt alot ..
when they lose , they deliberately bump my back when he walk pass over me ... ...
when the win , they taunt ... and he start to boasting about to his friends/girl friends ... that's annoying ..
Master Chibi
09-23-2004, 07:53 AM
I'm a really friendly guy. 98% of the time if I see that I'm losing, but I'm enjoying myself, I'll laugh. Like if you managed to RC through my super at the last possible second, I'll be clapping after I lose the round. Hell, you're entertainment as much as I am to you.
If I know the guy though, I'll usually yuck it up, like by making fun of the characters we're playing with (again, in between rounds, like in CvS2). If it's Marvel then I'll do it after the match is over.
I won't hesitate to ask questions either.
@ Shineosnake:
Who do you play? Do you ever remember fighting a K groover who plays Hoahmaru?
:D
UnCauzi
09-23-2004, 05:45 PM
While i do see your point. But then again i am paying money to the play the game how i want to, If i want to pick Mag/storm/psy everytime and beast newbies then i can. I dont want to have to pay money to play i team i find overall boring. Some people get mad pissed when they lose no matter what team there using and what team they lost against.
Theres this one dude i play agianst and he'll always play low-tier against my mag/stom/psy and will get killed horribly everytime, but he'll still be joking around and having fun while playing. Just becuase you dont wanna fight top-tier dont go to an arcade expecting people to do the same.
As for me, I always try to say good game and talk a little bit, if someone asks for advice i'll give it.
He asked how come players never talk, I just gave tips on how to get them to talk. Whoring them doesn't get them to talk :P This isn't a thread about your rights in gameplaying it's about how to get people to talk to you while playing.
I was addressing people you don't know specifically. Sure some people will yuck it while being slaughtered, but I bet you more people AND the yuck it slaughter guy would talk and yuck it if they weren't being slaughtered. (I think that wasn't too confusing)
Personally, I don't talk in arcades most of the people are too damned young for me to have a good convo with...damn I'm old.
monkeyspank
09-23-2004, 07:16 PM
err i hate those ppl that say they wanna play low tier not top tier i mean if you wanna do that shit take it to your house or your buddys not the cade...but seriously saying "good game" only IMO applies to tournaments not casual...but thats just what i think.. :karate:
Edit:
Ok nvm let me rephrase that..i mean its cool if youre GOOD with low tier and use em but if you just plane suck with them then ya go home go practice or whatever and come back knowing at least the pros and cons of your team.
Sinister-X
09-23-2004, 08:58 PM
I'm a really friendly guy. 98% of the time if I see that I'm losing, but I'm enjoying myself, I'll laugh. Like if you managed to RC through my super at the last possible second, I'll be clapping after I lose the round. Hell, you're entertainment as much as I am to you.
If I know the guy though, I'll usually yuck it up, like by making fun of the characters we're playing with (again, in between rounds, like in CvS2). If it's Marvel then I'll do it after the match is over.
I won't hesitate to ask questions either.
@ Shineosnake:
Who do you play? Do you ever remember fighting a K groover who plays Hoahmaru?
:D
yeah, i am usually a friendly guy myself like 95% of the time, but i really don't talk to people i don't know, but if i did i go up to them, if they amaze me doing some cool combos on MvC2, i will ask them how long they been playing and cool combos and stuff like that, i complament them. But sometimes its not good to do that because some dudes are complete assholes and won't talk to you when you beat them and shit, so i stay quiet most of the time. Here at the south side of SA, i played a gangster type of dude once, and i beat him like 15 times in a row, then right before i was about to say "good game, man", he punched the machines screen and was fucking pissed, i thought he was going to kill me or something(:sweat:), so i didn't say anything. so i stay quiet 85% of the time now when it comes to talking to new people. but people here in SA are 60% nice people and the other 40% assholes, but the people who are cool are very friendly.
OrangeCat
09-23-2004, 09:08 PM
Giving tips for a game that lasts 99 seconds per round. Seems pretty sketchy unless it's in training mode.
Talking to a complete stranger or guy about how fucking cool a character is, just seems to be a bit over the "geek threashold" than most people are willing to bear. Hell I felt so embrassed when I told some guys where the fuck Morrigan was from (Darkstalkers).
Sinister-X
09-23-2004, 10:00 PM
yeah but if the dude is an asshole and i beat him, i say shit out of my head, like oh, you play good and stuff like that. yeah i had a dude once tell me who to use and what charcters to pick, i was yeah man, yeah thats cool, just to be nice, but if people talk shit when their behind me and tell me i use scrub teams(depends if i do), say that i suck and quiet using sentinel and storm and mag(don't like cable), but i just laugh quietly, and hear what stupid shit they say. its pretty funny i say,:lol:.
like i say "If you cant take the heat get out the kitchen", :lol:, its stupid i know,:lol::smile:.
Master Chibi
09-23-2004, 10:09 PM
Geek threshold nothing. I'm paying money to play videogames against someone else. I'm going out of my way to find a place to do it in, and then I spend some more money and I do it again. Then again. Repeat infinity. That's far past the threshold as is. If I can't have fun and the other guy's a non social mute then to hell with him. I'm not playing sherades here.
;p
Sinister-X
09-23-2004, 10:15 PM
yeah man, same here, we play for fun not for fucking battle to the death and shit.
I like it when people talk to me during matches, I'm always in a friendly mood. Like if I'm losing, I say things like "Next time open your eyes when you pull that lucky ***t!" or if I'm winning I'll say, "That's right, stay down ***ch!"
Simple, kind gestures like that can spark a conversation between two SF enthusiast, but even more better, it can start a friendship that will last forever!
50mOrEcEnTz
09-23-2004, 10:41 PM
man fawk some weak ass nikkah wantin u to sandbag. play for real if you want to, with the best team (wutever u think that is) if you want to...and if he starts to really talk shit, if it is serious to u, show him it is, simple as that
Sinister-X
09-23-2004, 10:49 PM
i give some pointers to people sometimes, sometimes their cool and sometimes their asshole(mostly 67%of the time), but i really dont play with scrub teams, but sometimes if the dude gets lucky and beats me, i probably had a low tier team or something, or probably drunk..buzz..buzz..buzz.. but other that if thinks he is cool cause he beat me or something, especially those dudes with girlfriends, i use the scrub teams and i would piss them off, by taunting in battle and stuff like that, :lol:. but other than that i am a nice guy:smile:.
if i had girlfriend i would not act like that, all badass.
dudes here are sometimes fucking wannabes and showoffs, but people i know and talk to are always the cool guys/girls.:smile:
Emphy
09-23-2004, 10:54 PM
When you don't do anything, you look less stupid.
People can't hate you for things you didn't do.
Sinister-X
09-23-2004, 11:06 PM
yeah, your right.
its some people who talk shit against me, cause i beat them or something, i dont know what the problem even is, its just a game.
some people want to kick my ass because i beat them, its scary(:sweat:) because it is very serious, that is why i rather not play against those kind of people, but if they want to learn how to play the game, to get better, players have to play players that are better than them, thats how i learn.
laterz dudes:tup:
CptMunta
09-23-2004, 11:30 PM
I don't say anything except 'do you want a challenge?' Or ask them if if they what my 1P game if I win. Or say 'good game' if I win or loose. Unless they are really good and I keep loosing. Then I ask them for some tricks.
But I haven't challenged anyone for ages. In the past year I've been in Paris, Itlay, Spain, New York, Boston and Germany. And found VERY few SF arcade machines anywhere. Only found a Super SF machine near time square in New York. And Germany doesn't even have arcades.
I miss challenging strangers. Maybe its time to by an Xbox.
True_Tech
09-24-2004, 02:27 AM
i'm usually to busy trying to whoop your ass to talk i don't care if its just a friendly game when you leave i want you to tell your friends story about the tall black guy with the fitted that whoooped you up :P
!)—(V)onster—(!
09-24-2004, 04:04 AM
I remember playing someone at Xmen VX SF an I beat him an his little bro came out of nowhere and said " EEEEEEEEE... he beat you!" all loud.
I was laughing an the guy got so pissed he started to talk shit to me all through the games.
Sinister-X
09-24-2004, 02:35 PM
that sucks.
fire2ash
09-24-2004, 08:34 PM
People act like this in kalleria too, or any online game for that fact. If they are good they won't say anything or respond, even if your being funny. And sometimes, if they beat you twice without you even warming up after say, 3 months of not playing, sometimes they will just leave. Now that is annoying.
Airthrow
09-24-2004, 09:15 PM
What is worse is when you are warming up and lose a few games cus you are rusty and fell for something stupid, then you start winning every game, and then they start complaining about joysticks/buttons/distractions all of a sudden.
i.e., when they win it's skill, when you win it's cus of bullshit.
I ALWAYS say something to opponents, just something small, and if they don't seem like they wanna talk I cut it out. 99% of Fighting game players are anti-social or just don't want to talk unless they already know you.
And I HATE that gay "look around like you're not interested in the game" inbetween rounds bullshit. Yes, Ricky did it to me too. LOL
jpchato
09-24-2004, 09:26 PM
We do. I usually yell out RAPE RAPE RAPE when I'm getting my ass whooped.
Famicom
09-25-2004, 01:56 PM
Yeah I talk. If I win against somebody and got 2 cents to add to the3ir playing style, I don't give tips. Let's put it like this, if someone plays a character that I'm familiar with,their style is decent enough to put me on the edge half the time but not quite up there yet, I for fun just show them some neat stuff to pull off that he by chance might not have known about, and once he discovers it, he ends up liking it and maybe start liking the game itself more and he'll prolly ask me when the next time I'm coming to the arcade.
That scenario spawned my local SF comp which is mentioned in my title above my avatar. Since then we've been back and forth each other's houses, and eating at Denny's every Saturday night and talking SF in general.
BTW y'all, sometime soon, there's gonna be some Team ForceZ SF3 Third Strike matches taped straight from my living room and my bedroom online.
mr. newbie
09-26-2004, 01:06 AM
i try to talk to peopl but they seem reluctant on giving me tips. liek if i ask how to do a combo i always get "u gotta figure it out" or "i dont know i just do it". but ya i like geting tips because its the only way i can get better.
CrotchMonkey
09-26-2004, 01:23 AM
i try to talk to peopl but they seem reluctant on giving me tips. liek if i ask how to do a combo i always get "u gotta figure it out" or "i dont know i just do it". but ya i like geting tips because its the only way i can get better.
i think people are reluctant to share combos cause they dont want to sit down and teach a combo, they'd rather play than teach you know?
btw your sig is fucking hilarious
mr. newbie
09-26-2004, 03:21 AM
lol thx. i put that up before i ever saw ricky. at evo i was like hey tht guys ricky ortiz! my brother was like wtf u cant see his face and i was like look tight pants and a tight shirt. i don know u had to be there. anyway this brings up an interesting question: has anyone ever talked to u and changed the way u play?
Ducky
09-26-2004, 05:31 AM
lol thx. i put that up before i ever saw ricky. at evo i was like hey tht guys ricky ortiz! my brother was like wtf u cant see his face and i was like look tight pants and a tight shirt. i don know u had to be there. anyway this brings up an interesting question: has anyone ever talked to u and changed the way u play?
Yeah... whenever I'm at the arcade people who beat me down comment on my fighting style and things I can do to improve, little combos and changes to combos I do that would make them more effective, etc... I don't think this takes place at most arcades though since I know most of the guys I play with, even if it's just their name.
ein05
09-26-2004, 06:07 AM
Yeah... whenever I'm at the arcade people who beat me down comment on my fighting style and things I can do to improve, little combos and changes to combos I do that would make them more effective, etc...
this is what i'm talking about. that's good sportsmanship. yes u can be competitive but your combo isnt the "secret to A.C. Greene's virginity". just share. give me some ideas, props, pointers, or just talk about the "fat-assed" girl that just walked in...whatever. dont sit stoned-faced like a arcade gangster or something. be sociable.
HAHA :clap:
Lynx Winters
09-26-2004, 06:57 AM
I'm normally the really friendly loud guy who gets his ass kicked in just about everything. It actually serves two purposes. If you're cool, you'll probably lighten up joke around with me, which is something I wish a lot of arcade people would do. If you're an asshat who's there to play like their life is hanging in the balance or try to pull that "I don't want to be here, I just play the game" bullshit, well, now I'm making a lot of noise, pissing you off, and now you're more prone to make mistakes that I can capitalize on. Plus, I'm still making with the funny.
Sinister-X
09-26-2004, 07:52 PM
that sucks even more.
Lynx Winters
09-27-2004, 08:02 AM
Why's that? Is the arcade some hallowed ground where everyone must be serious and give it their all or they'll be looked down upon by the other people? Screw that. If I get my ass kicked, I'm allowed to make jokes. It shows I'm not a big jerk about it. If I win, who the hell are you (not specifically you, but anyone) to tell me not to go hump the air hockey table between rounds if nobody's on it? Humor relaxes people, and most players tend to do better when they're relaxed.
EDIT: Grammar fixed.
Onyx_Chameleon
09-27-2004, 08:16 AM
At the arcades I attend (or use to when they were hot) there usually was a pretty diverse group of people. You had the pepes from the suburbs, you had the brothas from the streets you had the casual gammers that sucked, and you had the really good, what some would considered nerdy, gamers. With all this difference of life styles and such it seems people are a little unsure of communicating with the others. and then
But once we get to know eachother and make friend, we realize that we all have the same addiction and things get a lil' nicer, as people open up. Unless they are one of them phantom types that like to beat yo' ass and then emotionlessly stare into the screan with a feakish glum stare.:wow: When I meet people for the first time at the cades I tend to be on the quieter side if I beat the crap outa them (don't know why, its just my way) but if they beat me I tend to quote the popular gamin fraze "good shit"! and depending on how they respond I might try to get to know em' a lil' more... and once I get confortable with them (may take a few weeks or so) I let the shit talkin roll! it's so fun, i.e. if there is a crowd.
I try to remember the good gamers I meet in my town, gota keep the comp fresh!:clap:
True_Tech
09-28-2004, 01:27 AM
this is what i'm talking about. that's good sportsmanship. yes u can be competitive but your combo isnt the "secret to A.C. Greene's virginity". just share. give me some ideas, props, pointers, or just talk about the "fat-assed" girl that just walked in...whatever. dont sit stoned-faced like a arcade gangster or something. be sociable.
HAHA :clap:
man i am an arcade gangsta 3S CRIP CUZ
lol jk
batousai
09-28-2004, 05:58 AM
i'm usually modest when i win.BUT in the back of my mind,i'm thinking-why'd he waste my time like that.on the other hand,i'm sensitive about losing(like naruto).
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