Daigo vs Jwong [Archive] - Page 2

Arlieth Tralare

08-06-2004, 10:07 PM

You know, it's really sad that people are using Justin and 3s merely to troll forums and start shit. I only read the last few pages (haven't seen Justin's post) but this disappoints me.

Look Exodus, we're cool with Justin at FFA and we're glad that he brings a top-notch Chun Li to the table. We also don't care who's #1 or whatever. We do care about top-level competition to give Japan a run for its money, and the Japanese players love the competitive spirit at our arcade. When I told KO that there were people in the US who said FFA sucked, he was like, "uhh... WHY?"

But when people like you and Buckner(well, he's chill now ^^. Sorry man, but I need to use you as an example) start shit *just to start shit*, it's really pointless and all it does is ruin the game for everybody. Buckner didn't even start shit to be mean, he did it out of a misguided attempt to bring competition to Nebraska. But you're just being mean, and nobody appreciates you for it.

Your skill level at 3s and whether you want to back shit up or not isn't even the point. You're basically being a troll, getting your kicks out of starting controversy. That's just not cool.

Really, I'd like nothing more than all of us 3s players to be chill with each other and have fun playing hard games and learning new stuff. Fuck this #1 overal crap, we know Justin has #1 Chun in US, even better than a lot of Japanese Chuns (perhaps #2-3 in Japan). That's all we really should be concerned with when it comes to 3s. Whether Justin's Chun goes against Pyrolee's Yun is more of a matter of character vs character strategy and tactics, and a high-level match like that should be fun to watch.

And we will all admit, FFA's sticks have some problems with strict diagonals. Plus the fact that people aren't used to Head to Head cabinets. It's hard to find a setup that both people are comfortable with unless everyone's used to it. I do wish Justin played his Chun more at FFA, but he was trying to keep his Chun secret until his battle with Pyro. And I understand that. But if he does come back down here, we'd love to play against him just for the sake of good matches, honor and props be damned. And if they want to settle who's better in a 3 out of 5 match, any characters, that's their OWN business. Don't be a parasite and try to leech attention off of their battle.

Seriously, there isn't any point in trying to start shit with Pyro, and he's a really cool guy in person. If you disrespect anyone, it's only natural that they'll dis you back, and a lot of us roll our eyes when we see you post now. But seriously, it'd be nice if you could be cool with us and approach us as a fellow 3s player.

Also, I apologize for talking shit earlier in IRC and stuff. I'd rather put shit behind us and get rid of all this in the scene.

No hate in 3s.

KING

08-06-2004, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by box
Justin was the highest placing American at the 3 majors this year.

and the "smaller" events...
like...
don't forget TX Showdown 4... :)
he's still technically #1 here in the Southwest...:sweat:

Shine

08-06-2004, 10:31 PM

I'm just posting to thank whomever posting that video. I haven't really been paying attention to fighting games lately but that was very much worth seeing.

As for the people trashing the guy that had this happen to him, hey SFII is 80% experience, 20% practice. If he threw a super out in that situation it is probably because he never experienced playing someone who could parry Chun Li's entire super like that, and that's just as much the fault of the weak competition over here in the USA for not preparing him for that scenario. Now if he is in that scenario again and he sees someone walking back and forth measuring the distance so that he can parry Chun's super, he will know what he is doing and not throw it out like that. It isn't like the guy just busted this out at random, he was measuring the distance so that *if* he went for the super he could execute his counter. The American player didn't pick up on this and was baited into using his super and that's why he lost. Oh well. This is SF, live and learn. Or don't learn, suck, and spend time making fun of players who are better than you on an internet forum. The choice is yours.

Larry Flynt

08-07-2004, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by Big Dave
i'm no 3s expert, but if your better than someone, shouldn't you place higher than them generally. Justin got top 3 at evo, if you're better than him, you should go pick up you're free money from evo then, like Justin does every year.

WRAP!

Big|Dave top 8.

kofiend

08-07-2004, 05:14 AM

FFA peeps are mad cool

the best is to see different play styles clash, especially character specialists vs character specialists, not just cutthroat chun and ken all the time. ken is a standard character everyone should have handy or keep around, but character specialists are what keep the game interesting IMO. think how predictable shit would be if it was only ken and chun all the time, FFA brings shit to the table with a wide range of character specialists, but can also keep up in top tier vs top tier matches, you got to respect that. combining the best of casual and tourny, getting good enough to use their favorite characters in tourny.

making the game fun again, making the brain tingle, 3rd strike y'all:cool:

exodus

08-07-2004, 05:32 AM

well arlieth, i'm glad you came out and posted that. and yes, i'm a mean evil troll who loves nothing more than to rub arrogant people's faces in. i admit it. i'm an evil troll :p

that aside, i know that you guys at FFA are good, and deserve the respect and recognition that you do from everyone (US, japan, canada, the world, etc). however, whenever i read yi wang's or pyro's post, and yours at times, i got the feeling that you guys were rather arrogant, and wanted to be heralded as the best in US. i don't say that this isn't true in terms of player ratio, or even pyro being the best. but it's not about that. you don't see justin going around saying "IM THE SHIT IN MVC2!" or ricky and choi running around saying "IM THE BEST IN CVS2!" [these are all for the sake of argument, i don't care if ricky/choi isn't best in CVS2] --

honestly, i'd love to play you guys because competition is something i never really get. i only have one friend who seriously play, but we see each other every few months. i'm glad that there's a concentrated area of 3Sers still in the US, because it keeps the game going.

i'm ranting now...so i'll stop. basically, i applaud humility and spit at arrogance. and i could deduce that some of you guys were just not respecting US 3S in general, mainly because you are applauded by the japanese. and that's just fucked up.

so fine, let's be friends. just don't be an ass about rankings. competition always exists in life...learn to accept it and then play against it. don't look down and talk down at it. you'll only get trolls like me who do nothing but harass you on forums. :lol:

kofiend

08-07-2004, 06:12 AM

let me just add, exodus is cool in real life, he ll argue with you if YOU WANT, but he s mad chill and doesn t start shit. he s real cool guy. he s one of the few players who places at tournies on the EC with yun.
its just online, he picks at shit.

btw- he gets owned by sticks for free, the jap cabinet is a must next year:D
man, i m gonna get so many peeps to come with me next year, i got 2 guys off the bat, 2 more who taught me, 1 ken and possibly a yun now, also a ibuki is possible.

like 7 heads huh? gonna have to come 2~3 days earlier to rest. 3rd strike y'all:cool:

JAMMAR

08-07-2004, 09:09 AM

I got a question to FFA (or anyone who knows, just so I show no bias)

You guys have obvious connections and communication with the Japanese right? They seem to praise you well. In Japan I hear they do character specialist rankings or some sort and put them on magazines or post them or something. Any idea where you guys stand in those rankings?

pyrolee

08-07-2004, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Jammar
I got a question to FFA (or anyone who knows, just so I show no bias)

You guys have obvious connections and communication with the Japanese right? They seem to praise you well. In Japan I hear they do character specialist rankings or some sort and put them on magazines or post them or something. Any idea where you guys stand in those rankings?
They said I would be among top 4 yuns and vic among the top 4 dudleys.

They said frank's ryu is possibly the strongest, even in Japan.

And as for going to evo and just winning the money....How can I be expected to win playing on "shit in my lap".

C'mon give me a real tournament; not something I can play at my friend's house.

kofiend

08-07-2004, 11:07 AM

next EVO, they got to set aside some exhibition matches.

pyro- good point.

something interesting was posted before about some guys being allowed to hold their matches on the machine downstairs with a judge watching.

now THOSE controls were nice, wooooooo, i bitch slapped mester then ate perfects for 30 mins with SA2, YEH!!1:cool:

donaldducktm

08-07-2004, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by JustinW
Damn everyone loves seeing me lose.

I admit Daigo deserves that shit, but how come every1 rubs it in.

EVOL2K2 Me vs Japs.

EVOL2K3 Me vs Soo

EVOL2K4 ME vs Daigo

EVOL2K2 I got into team USA by accident. I didn't expect myself to beat the Americans and qualify but it was a fun experience and I don't mind getting raped but I hate when people just rubs it in.

EVOL2K3 I got owned by Soo
But no one wants to mention the money match I had with Soo at the console room.

EVOL2K4 Daigo got me and he parry SA2. Thats good shit. Daigo is a beast. But no one wants to talk about other matches on how other people lost in marvel, st, cvs2, 3s, ggxx, etc.

Always have to be Jwong got served. don't worry. ur still the best Street FIghter in USA/World.

Serpent

08-07-2004, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by pyrolee

They said I would be among top 4 yuns and vic among the top 4 dudleys.

They said frank's ryu is possibly the strongest, even in Japan.

And as for going to evo and just winning the money....How can I be expected to win playing on "shit in my lap".

C'mon give me a real tournament; not something I can play at my friend's house.

Imo that is kind of a weak excuse. If its really that much of a problem for you, couldn't you build a table or something that you could put a stick into so it wouldn't move and it would be at cabinet height? I understand that it would be a bit of work to solve the problem, but why would you let a simple problem get in the way when instead you can solve it? I might build something like that for Evo next year, and charge people like $20 to use it haha. Or maybe not. Still, I really think you should have gone this year, and should go next year, and just try to get used to console sticks somehow. Not a flame to you, I just think you should reevaluate your position.

Peace.

pyrolee

08-07-2004, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Serpent

Imo that is kind of a weak excuse. If its really that much of a problem for you, couldn't you build a table or something that you could put a stick into so it wouldn't move and it would be at cabinet height? I understand that it would be a bit of work to solve the problem, but why would you let a simple problem get in the way when instead you can solve it? I might build something like that for Evo next year, and charge people like $20 to use it haha. Or maybe not. Still, I really think you should have gone this year, and should go next year, and just try to get used to console sticks somehow. Not a flame to you, I just think you should reevaluate your position.

Peace.
I went, I was glad I didn't enter, it was such a let down this year. When I saw how 3s was being ran: random pauses, shit breaking down, people playing on their laps/floors, and even having to play your matches while looking at the tv from a side view? It was just lame.

I don't even know how people can take the results of that tourney seriously with such a bad medium for play.

If next year is on PS2 I won't play on that either because there are differences between the two games.

I'd rather stick with the world championships of 3s next year, they have the top japanese players and the equipment to have a real tournament. The only thing this years Evo had over WC of 3s was a big screen and a lot of chairs.

Chaotic Blue

08-07-2004, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by exodus

pyro. you suck shit. so does your yun. :lol:

oh. by the way. im part of USA. until you play me, you're not #1. sorry.

Wow, what an asshole.

Chaotic Blue

exodus

08-07-2004, 01:41 PM

i've already explained myself, and why i'm a troll. i respect those that deserve respect, and pyro's just too caught up in the compliments that the japanese give him. i'm sure he's a good guy in person, except he's only humble to those who are better than him. that's why i troll him :o

now as for the whole evolution supergun console blah blah blah debate...just accept it for what it is pyro. if you don't want to play, then you won't, and you don't have to. but people will always shit on you because to them, evo is evo. and how can you possibly say that whoever isn't better, or isn't #1, just based on the fact that the premises have changed? and because you aren't there...it's your choice to not be there, so you've given up the right to argue your opinion over what happens there. if people deem justin as #1 and you as neglible, then they can. YOU chose not to be there. that's as absurd as me claiming you can't be #1 yun because you've never played me. obviously since i choose to not appear in the tournaments, i can't dispute what happens as a result of the tournament.

DeAdSpAcE

08-07-2004, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Arlieth Tralare
BAM! THE TRUTH!

Good post man. You pretty much got it all down to bone. Exodus, you got a problem with pyro oh well, you take it out on him on your own grounds or something then. What's the point of trolling then? What's the point of trying to start some kinda mess? I still don't see any kind of point from you on the matter rather than repeating that you're doing it for fun. Whatever beef you got with pyro that's between you and him so keep it that way. Let's not forget your stupid elitist attitude that you had in your JWong thread a while back, I honestly didn't know much of your problem with pyro...granted I don't even know the guy and I'm "sorry" that I didn't pay witness to him being arrogant but whatever keep the drama elsewhere cuz I don't care about it...I only care about the game. I believe it's the same with a lot of people here.

Also you admit that you're not that great at 3s. So why beat down on another's skill level if you haven't even played the person let alone do anything recognizable yourself? You got some problems with the scene that's YOUR problem, no need to spread your shit.

I'll end my post saying that third strike is a great game and I look foward to playing some of you people (and maybe even exodus if he grows the fuck up) in the near future...especially when I move to cali. I like to think that I'm at least an average player and I know a good amount of the game so I wouldn't mind putting that shit to the test.

EDIT: Btw I did say long ago to you to wait and see what happens at evo to truly determine how much of number 1 that Justin can be. The events spoke for themselves. Wong plays well but he's still overrated, just deal with it.

exodus

08-07-2004, 02:31 PM

deadspace: i don't think you're reading these forums very well...if you did, you'd realize it's not even about pyro at all. :confused: but since you don't care, i guess i'm talking to a wall. so nevermind.

by the way...this is a forum for a reason right? why would i keep it to myself? that's contradictory :lol:

DeAdSpAcE

08-07-2004, 02:33 PM

I spoke on topic with what you've been saying about pyro and I think I'm pretty much on topic about you being an ass. And either way it still stands that you should lighten up no matter what and ditch the drama. Everyone agrees that it's time to stop.

Edit: Weird...I know that big dave is the last one to reply to the topic but it still says that I am...:confused:

Big Dave

08-07-2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

I went, I was glad I didn't enter, it was such a let down this year. When I saw how 3s was being ran: random pauses, shit breaking down, people playing on their laps/floors, and even having to play your matches while looking at the tv from a side view? It was just lame.

I don't even know how people can take the results of that tourney seriously with such a bad medium for play.

I would accept that maybe if it didn't have the exact same finals as last year. I guess such things don't affect top players.

pyrolee

08-07-2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Big Dave

I would accept that maybe if it didn't have the exact same finals as last year. I guess such things don't affect top players.
KO and Daigo missed a lot of links/supers that they even told me was because of the sticks/uncomfortable setups. In fact a lot of the 3s japanese players told me they didn't like the setup.

I personally did not want to enter a tournament where I knew that my skill level/execution would be in jeopardy because of issues I have no control of.

And exodus, I told you justin is #1 in the usa, thats fine, but ffa is above the rest of the usa. We're our own 3s country.

ColdAsLife

08-07-2004, 05:50 PM

Its really sad to see all this hate towards Kids that dedicate soo much time to a game they love . I have to admit that this year at Evo the setup for just about every game was terrible. I saw a guy playing St that had a nice brand new $170 Mas stick that continued to malfunction due to the fact that Mas uses really crappy multiplatform pcbs in the consrtuction of their arcade sticks, and because of this he was almost was disqualified because of the lack of knowledge from the judges that were judging the match. I then had to watch him argue for a half hour so he could just get another chance.
And for the 3s setup i will give them props for using superguns but that still didnt solve the problem of the crappy mas stick they let the americans use during finals. The stick had crap concave buttons that arent really good for anything but start buttons. I watch pyro and other great players often enough to know that you simply cant react fast enough with garbage like that. And for the haters of FFA that continuely talk trash need to chill out and understand we dont play this game to hate on each other but we play to learn and strive to become better and better, and of course to have a good time. I go to FFA all the time and i may not be in with all the guys there but when i play they show respect whether i win or lose. Dont judge a book by its cover and dont just say they are all arrogant just because of a few things people say on these forums. I hope all the haters have a chance to someday go to FFA and understand that everyone there are genuinely good people especially pyro and Frank3s which are probably the nicest guys there . P.S.
Pyro wooped wong like he was playing on dreamcast in Training mode.

Big Dave

08-07-2004, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

KO and Daigo missed a lot of links/supers that they even told me was because of the sticks/uncomfortable setups. In fact a lot of the 3s japanese players told me they didn't like the setup.

i know, i saw japan players as well as US players miss alot of shit, in all tournaments. Yet it didnt not affect the results, the same people got the same places for the most part. Except mvc2.

exodus

08-07-2004, 07:18 PM

pyro...you're retarded. i give up all hope of you being anything other than an arrogant ass. good day. :)

MrQuotes

08-07-2004, 07:28 PM

EDIT: Btw I did say long ago to you to wait and see what happens at evo to truly determine how much of number 1 that Justin can be. The events spoke for themselves. Wong plays well but he's still overrated, just deal with it.

hes not overrrated. the majority of people(myself included) dont put him higher than FFA.

kofiend

08-07-2004, 07:32 PM

true, i didn t like sitting on the floor at EVO just to get some kind of decent "trust" in executing things, but the FFA tourny was held on cabinets players knew had diagnol problems, so both balance out. both were good in their own way guys:)

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by exodus
pyro...you're retarded. i give up all hope of you being anything other than an arrogant ass. good day. :)
You're a scrub, nobody cares.

box

08-08-2004, 01:17 PM

Pyrolee is really good. Pyrolee has the potential to be number 1 in the USA. But there's nothing to back up the statement that he is top in the states. According to tourney results, Justin is number 1 in the USA in 3rd strike.

Hopefully this year, Pyrolee can go to some majors and win, but until then, he can't say that he's top.

Yes Evo was console based, but MWC and ECC were not and hopefully will stay arcade-based next year.

IceBeast

08-08-2004, 01:34 PM

Wow....

2D fighting scene is ALIVE!!!

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by box
Pyrolee is really good. Pyrolee has the potential to be number 1 in the USA. But there's nothing to back up the statement that he is top in the states. According to tourney results, Justin is number 1 in the USA in 3rd strike.

Hopefully this year, Pyrolee can go to some majors and win, but until then, he can't say that he's top.

Yes Evo was console based, but MWC and ECC were not and hopefully will stay arcade-based next year.
I don't mind not being #1 in the states, because FFA is already above the rest of the USA in 3s, it's like a colony of japan.

When I think of high 3s play I think of Japan, then FFA, then the rest of the usa.

To be #1 in the USA at 3rd Strike is the same to me as being #1 in Mongolia, you guys can have it.

So what box says is true, justin is #1 in USA 3rd Strike because he wins all of mongolian tournaments.

The japanese 3s players agree, they always say that FFA players are clearly above the rest of the USA at the game.

Maybe you guys are thinking, "Well why is FFA better than the rest of the USA?" It's because of Japan; we go there a lot (i've been there 3 times last year, and planning to go again this winter).

Whenever we go to japan we play A LOT, and learn the japanese tactics and strategies. Then we come home to FFA and teach the rest of the FFA players there what we've learned from japan. By doing this we are able to keep up with the highest level of 3s (japan) while the rest of the USA falls behind.

Didn't mean to offend anyone in this post, especially the other USA players that are my friends. I was just stating the current status of 3rd strike.

fubarduck

08-08-2004, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

I don't mind not being #1 in the states, because FFA is already above the rest of the USA in 3s, it's like a colony of japan.

When I think of high 3s play I think of Japan, then FFA, then the rest of the usa.

To be #1 in the USA at 3rd Strike is the same to me as being #1 in Mongolia, you guys can have it.

So what box says is true, justin is #1 in USA 3rd Strike because he wins all of mongolian tournaments.

The japanese 3s players agree, they always say that FFA players are clearly above the rest of the USA at the game.

Maybe you guys are thinking, "Well why is FFA better than the rest of the USA?" It's because of Japan; we go there a lot (i've been there 3 times last year, and planning to go again this winter).

Whenever we go to japan we play A LOT, and learn the japanese tactics and strategies. Then we come home to FFA and teach the rest of the FFA players there what we've learned from japan. By doing this we are able to keep up with the highest level of 3s (japan) while the rest of the USA falls behind.

Didn't mean to offend anyone in this post, especially the other USA players that are my friends. I was just stating the current status of 3rd strike.
I present to you, the SF community, FFA: the Nebraska of 2004!

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by fubarduck

I present to you, the SF community, FFA: the Nebraska of 2004!
FFA vs Texas

FFA: 2

Texas: 0

I like your necro tho fubar, 'cause its easy.

box

08-08-2004, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

Whenever we go to japan we play A LOT, and learn the japanese tactics and strategies. Then we come home to FFA and teach the rest of the FFA players there what we've learned from japan. By doing this we are able to keep up with the highest level of 3s (japan) while the rest of the USA falls behind.

Didn't mean to offend anyone in this post, especially the other USA players that are my friends. I was just stating the current status of 3rd strike.

The thing is, FFA has yet to prove themselves better than the USA. Sure they've gotten new strategies from Japan... but they have yet to show that they can actually use them. Japan may think you guys are good, but there's still no actual proof.

So until FFA wins 3 majors, they aren't in any position to claim that they are better than the USA.

Just stating the current status of 3rd strike. No offense. I seriously do think you have the potential to beat the rest of the states Pyro. Just gotta attend some major tourneys stateside, that's all.

archetype

08-08-2004, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by fubarduck

I present to you, the SF community, FFA: the Nebraska of 2004!

Whats the connection between 3s and Nebraska that everyone makes jokes about? Ive been wondering this for a while.

peace

SKJ

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by box

The thing is, FFA has yet to prove themselves better than the USA.
Huh? I beat your guys' best players, doesn't that mean a thing?

Oh well, maybe when one of your guys can win ANY FFA tournament, then I'll say you're on our level.

Let me throw this out, just for support of the argument.

You guys never go to the French tournaments, but do you think you are better than them?

5 star

08-08-2004, 03:20 PM

why do all the fanboys talk? in the end, all the players are cool with themselves. FFA is cool with wong, FFA is cool with hsien and mopreme. but theres always idiots that come on from texas (fubarduck) that have to say something or east coast (exodus) that have to say something. like i said, let the players that are playing talk the shit. this is the jwong daigo thread, let them talk shit. the only reason pyrolee got into this was b/c he was getting hated on by a bunch of fanboys. and then his fanboys are defending him. and they get into a flame war so pyrolee gets into it too.

i'll make this clear. all the fanboys that hate FF, and thats ALL you guys are, fanboys, dick riders and to all the fanboys that defend FF, stop talking for the players and giving your opinion, only the real players themselves know whatsup. don't assume everyone at FF is genuinely good (not personally attacking the person who said this) but i am a dick. im a fucking asshole. everyone knows that. but hey if you are on my good side, i'll treat you with respect.

like i said. let the players handle it. if jwong wants to come to this thread and say hes the best 3s player in US, let him say it. he got the ranking to say it. same with hsien and watson. but all the players are cool and arent about it. its just you homo shit fanboys that like to instigate and start a flame war. thanks have fun doing so.

i'm the fucking messiah. love me or hate me, i play 3s and all your flamewars dont matter to the top players

box

08-08-2004, 03:24 PM

Sorry Pyro. But you've gotta win a major. That's all there is to it.

fubarduck

08-08-2004, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

FFA vs Texas

FFA: 2

Texas: 0

I like your necro tho fubar, 'cause its easy.
Well, let's have a history lesson now, shall we?

FFA vs Texas, 2003 @ Evolution -- I definitely did not consider myself top 5 in TX at this time, the only reason I played was because Crow (who was a stronger player) was nowhere to be found. I played because TX needed a 5th, and Geo beat me quite convincingly both times, because he was better. I am not dissing FFA at all for their victory here.

Anyway, most people know now that I dropped Necro after Evo 2003 for Chun. I have no shame in having made her my main, because as we both know, I don't exactly play top tier in every game. It's just my choice in 3S. Of course, it's understandable that you didn't know because you weren't playing in the tournament at Evolution. You thought you could show up late to the biggest USA tournament of the year with the tightest schedule, and you got a reality check.

Now, after failing to enter the biggest tournament in the USA, you still come back to SRK barking louder than ever about being the best. As it turns out though, you don't become the best by claiming you're the best on forums! I think there was another group of people that used to do this (Nebraska) but they came back down to earth and they are a cool bunch now. There is a reason that FFA is the most disrespected group of players by the rest of California. If you want people to think you're consistently good, do it by getting 3rd at Evolution and beating one of the best Japanese Chun-Li's. Do it by sucking up your pride and attending the most organized, biggest, and most well-run tournament of the year even though it's on Supergun instead of arcade (like Vic Vance, an FFA player that I actually respect). You don't make friends with an ego like the one you're sporting.

I still don't claim to be a top 3S player, and I'm not calling you out. Infact, I'm sure you're still better than me. Just letting you know that cockiness doesn't get you friends. You could take some tips from Justin, it's good to see a top player that is so humble despite getting so much hate.

I hope we can be friends one day. I promise I'm a nice guy.

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by box
Sorry Pyro. But you've gotta win a major. That's all there is to it.
I won Norcal Regionals 2, where I defeated Ricky (#1 USA 3s player at the time).

But I guess that doesn't count. Why? I don't know.

The definition of a USA major is a regular tournament at FFA plus 30 scrubs entering.

DeAdSpAcE

08-08-2004, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
snip

Haha you're av is the shit.

box

08-08-2004, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee
The definition of a USA major is a regular tournament at FFA plus 30 scrubs entering.

Maybe. But you have yet to proove that you can beat those scrubs. :lol:

Sorry.

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by fubarduck
You thought you could show up late to the biggest USA tournament of the year with the tightest schedule, and you got a reality check.

If you want people to think you're consistently good, do it by getting 3rd at Evolution and beating one of the best Japanese Chun-Li's.

Do it by sucking up your pride and attending the most organized, biggest, and most well-run tournament of the year even though it's on Supergun instead of arcade (like Vic Vance, an FFA player that I actually respect).

I still don't claim to be a top 3S player, and I'm not calling you out. Infact, I'm sure you're still better than me.

God, all these assumptions about how I felt, why I was late blah blah blah. If you had bothered to read previous posts I said, the night before evo I said to myself "sleep or evo" (being that it was already 5am plus we had to take the japanese back to their place and I had to be there between 8am-9am), and I chose sleep. So I showed up at 3pm to check it out, looked pretty lame compared to last year, watts said it was way too late for sign up. Me and 720 gave high fives for not entering such a let down of a tournament.

In fact, later that day, vic told me what a waste of money it was to enter evo. The same guy you respect right?

Next point you don't know: Do you think Ive never played/beaten Raoh? I'm sorry Harvey but you are just ignorant. Maybe the fact that his loss came during a "shit-in-your" lap tournament makes justin's win more impressive to you. In fact Ive faced Raoh before many times (everytime i go to japan we play) and beaten him in an overnight tourney when I was in japan before. In fact he and boss came up and challenged me and rock one day at more amusement and we beat them. If you need proof ask daigo he was watching it. :cool:

Your 3s skill level is low and you're going to criticize FFA? Your words have no facts tied with them. I don't want to be friends with you Harvey, sorry. :cool:

Box:
Weak rebuttal.

JAMMAR

08-08-2004, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

I won Norcal Regionals 2, where I defeated Ricky (#1 USA 3s player at the time).

But I guess that doesn't count. Why? I don't know.

BECAUSE JUSTIN WASN'T THERE LOLOLOLOL

Besides, didn't I read a few pages ago that Justin lost a $300 bet to pyro? That should've solved everything. Oh wait, bad controls posted by a guy on Justin's behalf. Damn.

Saying FFA is not USA is little ridiculous IMO however.

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Jammar

BECAUSE JUSTIN WASN'T THERE LOLOLOLOL

Besides, didn't I read a few pages ago that Justin lost a $300 bet to pyro? That should've solved everything. Oh wait, bad controls posted by a guy on Justin's behalf. Damn.

Saying FFA is not USA is little ridiculous IMO however.
It wasn't a money match, we had to face each other at the World Championships of 3s and I beat him 2-0. I thought that would have settled it too, but the fanboys disagree.

We had 64 3s entries at this tournament. Seems like a major to me.

FFA is in the USA but is above the rest of the usa in 3s, thats what Japan and me believe.

N-Ken

08-08-2004, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee
Maybe the fact that his loss came during a "shit-in-your" lap tournament makes justin's win more impressive to you.

You see, this is why people don't like you, because you're pretty much the definition of an elitist, ie. "If I don't like the controls the tournament is null and void" Or maybe it's because you don't care about anyone who isn't FFA or the japanese? Which brings up another point, can't you speak for yourself instead of quoting the japanese everytime you want to make a point? It's not like your at their level anyways, sure you may be close, but you can you win ANY japanese tournament? I'm going to use your logic, and say that since you arent as good as the best japanese players, your opinion doesn't matter. You bring up NCR2, didn't that have like 13 people or so? WOWSERS YOU MUST BE THE BEST!!??!?

You know, I think it's funny that Jwong has contributed way more to the 3s scene than you ever have, even though he's just a part of the crummy USA, who you could apparently only beat at your home arcade when he had trouble with the sticks, fascinating...

box

08-08-2004, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee
Box:
Weak rebuttal.

Weak argument in the 1st place. Stick to 3s Pyro. You might be number 1 someday... but not today. :lol:

catchafire

08-08-2004, 04:24 PM

Man, I envy you guys!!! You have the opportunity to claim arcade spots that still play Capcom fighters loyally! People claiming FFA/Texas/East Coast and what not, you all should be grateful!!! :mad: I've been trying to find some people to play w/ in my area and haven't been able to find anyone who would play w/ me! And to the guy claiming FFA this and that, just be thankful man that you have 'great' players to play w/ anytime you feel like it. :mad:

Anywho, is Daigo the best 3S player in Japan?

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by N-Ken

You see, this is why people don't like you, because you're pretty much the definition of an elitist, ie. "If I don't like the controls the tournament is null and void"

It's not like your at their level anyways, sure you may be close, but you can you win ANY japanese tournament?

NCR2, didn't that have like 13 people or so? WOWSERS YOU MUST BE THE BEST!!??!?

You know, I think it's funny that Jwong has contributed way more to the 3s scene than you ever have, even though he's just a part of the crummy USA, who you could apparently only beat at your home arcade when he had trouble with the sticks, fascinating...
Didn't you post that jump in fierce, fierce uppercut canceled into shippu was a very difficult combo?

The people that hate me are the people who know nothing about 3s and their opinions don't matter.

I am on japanese level; every japanese 3s player tells me that. In fact they have said FFA is japanese level; USA is good but definitely behind FFA.

As for Japanese tournaments, Ive won a team tournament before. I've placed 3rd in a singles tournament at newton, above ksk, ko, mester, deshiken, but sadly I haven't gotten a first place finish yet by myself.

But I guess I can use the exodus argument and say I was having problems with the sticks because I had to play on a japanese cabinet. *Get out of jail free pass*

NCR2 has 28 people, which is small, but it had the best 3s player in the USA at the time, Ricky Ortiz, whom I defeated.

JWong wins the mongolian tournaments, team FFA does battle with the japanese at SBO 2. Fascinating...

Finally, you guys can talk all you want, but when it comes down to it who from the USA is going to beat me? I've already beaten all of the "champs" you guys have spawned out from those "majors"...

Bacardi

08-08-2004, 04:33 PM

Pyro I'm still your fan, you SBO matches rocked. Plus I cant wait for the WC of 3s dvd. :)

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Bacardi_J3d1
Pyro I'm still your fan, you SBO matches rocked. Plus I cant wait for the WC of 3s dvd. :)
Thanks bacardi, WC of 3s dvd is going to be sick, so many good matches.

5 star

08-08-2004, 04:37 PM

croyd: like, i dont know what it is, but your ken seems to attract a lot of men.

hey exodus, stop asking croyd about my ken. ill give u all the vitals that u need to know.

me vs you. first to 10. i win 10-0. thats all u need to know. k thnx

box

08-08-2004, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

snip

ACHOOOO!

Excuse me.

I'm allergic to bullshit.

:lol: :lol:

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by box

ACHOOOO!

Excuse me.

I'm allergic to bullshit.

:lol: :lol:
But why does it constantly comes out of your mouth?

The matches were posted on denjin video of my 3rd place finish in the Newton Tourney. Message me on aim I'll send them to you box so you can become enlightened.

I challenge anyone in the USA $50 a match. If there is someone out there that is better than me, I'd love to see.

O_O!!

08-08-2004, 04:43 PM

pyrolee > all you bitches.

Bacardi

08-08-2004, 04:43 PM

Pyro I posted this in the FFA thread, but I am going to post it here in case you dont see it. I am going to fly out to FFA cuz i want to get better in 3s and since you teaching ppl and stuff.......... hook me up lol. But seriously I was wondering if you could tell me what would be the best weekend to go down and a cheap motel near the arcade.

I am sure the dvd is gonna be sick, are al the matches gonna be on the dvd?

platinum_pinoy

08-08-2004, 04:45 PM

What is FFA and where was it held at? I must have missed that one. Also, what was NCR 2? Too many acronyms...

N-Ken

08-08-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

Didn't you post that jump in fierce, fierce uppercut canceled into shippu was a very difficult combo?

wtf?

I have never said that.

In any case, team ffa plays against the japs because your the only ones who show up for the arbitrary qualifiers, winning by default isn't exactly qualifying you as the best USA has to offer imo:rolleyes:

I know you're good pyro, my point has never been to discredit how good you were. I mean fuck I was arguing for you being the best in the US not long ago. I still think you probably are the most skilled, but I don't think you've even remotely earned the best player in the US moniker, because to do that you have to show up to tourneys, and you know, get results. You didn't feel that the biggest SF tournament in the US was good enough for you, so you didn't go. Yet you want everyone to recognize you as the best, even though you won't go to the biggest tournament of the year? Note that the japanese travelled 5000+ miles specifically FOR evo, not for your little piggyback tournament. And you wouldn't even travel the negligible amount of distance you had to so that you could compete. And you expect everyone to bow to you because your good but don't give a shit about the game? Bullshit, you may have talent, you may have more skill than anyone else in the US, but you aren't a representative of a top player, for US, Japan, or your little annexed arcade.

catchafire

08-08-2004, 04:57 PM

tell me about it, way too many acronyms. FFA, where is that? And why are some many 'good' players concentrated there?

exodus

08-08-2004, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
hey exodus, stop asking croyd about my ken. ill give u all the vitals that u need to know.

me vs you. first to 10. i win 10-0. thats all u need to know. k thnx

hah, you wish :lol:

but debate is pointless. i'm never going to play you guys unless i travel over there, or you guys travel over here. and neither are willing. i think you suck shit, you think i suck shit. nothing more to it :o

5 star

08-08-2004, 05:03 PM

ive had ppl tell me u suck shit. ask someone that played me during evo if i suck shit. ok stupid viet cong piece of shit?

and don't fucking come here for 2 reasons:

1. you're a waste of my time, i dont need to beat u 10-0.

2. if you come here, i guarantee i will beat the fucking shit out of u with a bat in the parking lot.

fucking idiot gook. ill fucking kill u i swear

catchafire

08-08-2004, 05:05 PM

lol

5 star

08-08-2004, 05:12 PM

me: hows exodus?
croyd: GOD HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!!! OMG HE SUCKS
aneursym x: that was a year ago, he plays yun now. he might be good?
croyd: NO HE FUCKING SUCKS. GOOODDDDD he fucking sucks.

hey seriously u dumb gook thats eating a cock in your avatar. u can talk all the shit u want to me from 5000 miles away and behind your computer screen. if you knew who i was or if u saw me in person, u wouldnt have the balls to say shit. i have fucking anger problems, everyone tells me that. they tell me i need fucking anger management. dont fucking come here unless u want to fucking die aiite?

pyrolee

08-08-2004, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by N-Ken

Bullshit, you may have talent, you may have more skill than anyone else in the US,

but you aren't a representative of a top player, for US, Japan, or your little annexed arcade.
Uh yeah I am...

I travelled 5000 miles to go play at SBO and SBO2. Doesn't that count?

What Kokujin Told Me about american experience:

Came for EVO

Played at WC of 3s

Played at EVO

EVO sucked

WC of 3s rocked. Cho Rashai

Dr. Strangelove

08-08-2004, 05:17 PM

death to viets.
pyro, yi and the rest dont mind the BS that exodus is spewing its not his fault his parents inhaled too much Agent Orange while they were holding onto dear life on a US helicoptor.

5 star

08-08-2004, 05:22 PM

and FUCK SRK. fuck the US. fuck everyone.

srk is just full of fucking idiot fanboys who cant play shit and suck in every game. so they gotta sit there and post and pretend like they kno something so they can feel good about themselves.

stfu with this representation bullshit. u represent fucking ieatcock.com. instead of sitting there defending who YOU think is the best. go fucking learn how to play the game, then when you make it to the top, and when someone fucking flames u, defend yourself.

you dumb shits think u kno so much about who placed where in this major and that major. god stop fucking sitting there on srk memorizing tourney results and repeating it over and over. the players that placed top 5 dont give a shit. only ieatcock.com does.

instead of fucking giving your own opinion on whos the best b/c they placed this high or that high. ask the fucking best player nearest you whos played the top players who they think is the best and they'll give u an honest answer.

edit: lol fuck this guy said agent orange. goddamn u stupid fucking du ma motherfucker. fuck you. fuck you, fuck your family. goddamn rice patty makers by day, jump out of trees with machine guns at night yelling du ma. fuck u. fucking 3rd world country tet offensive horse shit.

Zakuta

08-08-2004, 05:23 PM

"...you have to show up to tourneys, and you know, get results."

N-Ken is totally ignoring all of pyrolee's accomplishments.

Judging by what he has done for himself in 3s, he is probably the best US player in 3s. And obviously, seen as he didn't compete at evo, he isn't a candidate anymore.

Can't really name any other US player who goes to Japan (on the regular it seems) and places in tournaments. 0_0

Dr. Strangelove

08-08-2004, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
and FUCK SRK. fuck the US. fuck everyone.

srk is just full of fucking idiot fanboys who cant play shit and suck in every game. so they gotta sit there and post and pretend like they kno something so they can feel good about themselves.

stfu with this representation bullshit. u represent fucking ieatcock.com. instead of sitting there defending who YOU think is the best. go fucking learn how to play the game, then when you make it to the top, and when someone fucking flames u, defend yourself.

you dumb shits think u kno so much about who placed where in this major and that major. god stop fucking sitting there on srk memorizing tourney results and repeating it over and over. the players that placed top 5 dont give a shit. only ieatcock.com does.

instead of fucking giving your own opinion on whos the best b/c they placed this high or that high. ask the fucking best player nearest you whos played the top players who they think is the best and they'll give u an honest answer.

edit: lol fuck this guy said agent orange. goddamn u stupid fucking du ma motherfucker. fuck you. fuck you, fuck your family. goddamn rice patty makers by day, jump out of trees with machine guns at night yelling du ma. fuck u. fucking 3rd world country tet offensive horse shit.

LOL! Tet offensive! ahahahah too good:lol:

Motoki Imawano

08-08-2004, 05:54 PM

LOL @ 5 star.:lol:

epsilon_

08-08-2004, 05:57 PM

Someone PLEASE close this atrocity of a thread.

DeAdSpAcE

08-08-2004, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
goddamn rice patty makers by day, jump out of trees with machine guns at night yelling du ma.

This part had me dying! LOLOLOL!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yeah and I'll go ahead and say it: PYROLEE IS THE BEST 3S PLAYER IN USA HAHAHAHA!! FUCK YA'LL STATISTIC HUMPING HATERS!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!:)

The best part is no one is going to be able to change my mind with every swear, generic intelligence talkdown, etc. so suck it.:D

Jaime

08-08-2004, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
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Where did you get the sprite for your av?

kite raiser

08-08-2004, 07:04 PM

I hate god damn faggots who jump onto threads and start shouting 'close the thread'. Shut up ffs, this thread is funny, don't like the thread, don't fucking read it

VkreW

08-08-2004, 07:06 PM

im the best 3s player :cool: sup the rest of you guys shut the fuck up

N-Ken

08-08-2004, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Zakuta
"...you have to show up to tourneys, and you know, get results."

N-Ken is totally ignoring all of pyrolee's accomplishments.

Judging by what he has done for himself in 3s, he is probably the best US player in 3s. And obviously, seen as he didn't compete at evo, he isn't a candidate anymore.

Can't really name any other US player who goes to Japan (on the regular it seems) and places in tournaments. 0_0

Yeah alright, let's rundown his accomplishments shall we:

-His team won a tourney in Japan
-3rd at a Newton tourney
-1st at NCR2(28 ppl:rolleyes:)
-5th at WCo3s
-garnering FFA hype
-winning random FFA tourneys

Let's look at Jwong's(for comparison) accomplishments in 3s:

-3rd at evo 2k4(more people than WCo3s BTW)
-1st at TX Showdown
-1st at The Last Stand
-1st at ECC9
-1st at NEC4

You're going to tell me his accomplishments earn him the best US player title when he hasn't won a tournament with anyone from outside of Cali for the last year? Seems like a big leap...

As for pyro:

I meant I don't think you represent anyone well when you don't go to tournaments outside of your own arcade and then still want everyone to jock you hardcore, that's scrub mentality, when you refuse to play unless everything is up to your standards...

720

08-08-2004, 07:37 PM

Hmm. This thread is fucking dope. Gotta love the hate going around. I look forward to this thread every half hour for new shit.

To clear some things up. Evo setup for 3s was really bad. No point in arguing that it wasnt. Seeing controls fail and random pauses isnt anybody's ideas of world's greatest tourney. Plus seeding was horrible. Paulee, Ricky O, Amir, and some top candian player doode. That is a death bracet. Amir ends up sending ricky to losers qualifier. Ricky almost loses to the candian guy. The finals werent as exciting because people were making mistakes they shouldnt (ie. ricky missing customs, ko missing dive kicks, and so on). What makes evo so good is the people. This evo wasnt as entertaining but was mad fun.

At a time Ricky O. was # 1, then pyro beats him. This time Justin Wong was #1 pyro also beats him. Does it really matter where anyone should play. If they played they played. Dont take away the greatness of their matches by saying it doesnt count cause of blah blah. Wong played really well against Pyro. If you guys want to go by tourney standings, Pyro placed over Ko and KSK in a japan tourney. On their sticks.

What is the point of spending 300+ to travel out to play one person. The only people with good 3s skills around n. america is ny crew, texas, and canada (no order). I would love to play these guys more. I believe we can all learn from each other to make us greater players and hopefully better friends in the community. The problem is its just not worth the 300+. If there is any traveling FF is going to do is prolly to japan. Which should still be the main focus to beat not who has the biggest dick in the US so we can ride on it.

I would rather go to different states jes to hang out with new people, casue their cool and shit. But fanboys gotta hype shit up and talk mad shit. With this kind of instigation going around i am surprised yi and pyro didnt say shit earlier. Fanboys should get off their srk forums and tourney stats counting and play.

Pyro beat ricky and justin. You fanboys can count ALL the tournies pyro didnt show up in. But the important fact remains, rikcy or justin couldnt beat pyro. Ricky was closer to beatin pyro than justin.

Justin wong is a cool guy. He was teaching me some cvs2 stuff, even though i didnt ask him too. When the crowd was booing i was getting annoyed. That boy got mad skills. FFA has mad love for wong and his ny peeps.

thedude.com

08-08-2004, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by 720

Justin wong is a cool guy. He was teaching me some cvs2 stuff, even though i didnt ask him too. When the crowd was booing i was getting annoyed. That boy got mad skills. FFA has mad love for wong and his ny peeps.

:) :)

DeAdSpAcE

08-08-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by 720
Hmm. This thread is fucking dope. Gotta love the hate going around. I look forward to this thread every half hour for new shit.

To clear some things up. Evo setup for 3s was really bad. No point in arguing that it wasnt. Seeing controls fail and random pauses isnt anybody's ideas of world's greatest tourney. Plus seeding was horrible. Paulee, Ricky O, Amir, and some top candian player doode. That is a death bracet. Amir ends up sending ricky to losers qualifier. Ricky almost loses to the candian guy. The finals werent as exciting because people were making mistakes they shouldnt (ie. ricky missing customs, ko missing dive kicks, and so on). What makes evo so good is the people. This evo wasnt as entertaining but was mad fun.

At a time Ricky O. was # 1, then pyro beats him. This time Justin Wong was #1 pyro also beats him. Does it really matter where anyone should play. If they played they played. Dont take away the greatness of their matches by saying it doesnt count cause of blah blah. Wong played really well against Pyro. If you guys want to go by tourney standings, Pyro placed over Ko and KSK in a japan tourney. On their sticks.

What is the point of spending 300+ to travel out to play one person. The only people with good 3s skills around n. america is ny crew, texas, and canada (no order). I would love to play these guys more. I believe we can all learn from each other to make us greater players and hopefully better friends in the community. The problem is its just not worth the 300+. If there is any traveling FF is going to do is prolly to japan. Which should still be the main focus to beat not who has the biggest dick in the US so we can ride on it.

I would rather go to different states jes to hang out with new people, casue their cool and shit. But fanboys gotta hype shit up and talk mad shit. With this kind of instigation going around i am surprised yi and pyro didnt say shit earlier. Fanboys should get off their srk forums and tourney stats counting and play.

Pyro beat ricky and justin. You fanboys can count ALL the tournies pyro didnt show up in. But the important fact remains, rikcy or justin couldnt beat pyro. Ricky was closer to beatin pyro than justin.

Justin wong is a cool guy. He was teaching me some cvs2 stuff, even though i didnt ask him too. When the crowd was booing i was getting annoyed. That boy got mad skills. FFA has mad love for wong and his ny peeps.

Break that shit down. That's what I'm talking about with all seriousness here. Pretty much said everything that needed to be said to define what's overhyped and what isn't with past statistics of ricky and justin vs pyro.

And also just to clarify I'm not a Justin hater, anyone who can own shit up with guile, marrow, gambit and morrigan in marvel is good in my book. Seriously though, latest big tourny victories vs. consistent practice with japanese and a higher recognition of skill....I don't see what's so opaque about this. And on the topic of stick issues...imo I think that it's important that controls are as consistent as possible as in no fuck ups. Just cuz you can own shit up on a fucked up control may be some shit to ya'll...but a lot of you are overlooking the fact that it's great controls that allows the players to truly demonstrate their full capabilities.

Talk down to pyro all you want about how he's being "arrogant" about controls, if ya ask me there's nothing arrogant about asking for good controls...I thought it was something that everyone deserves:confused: , but his actions have spoken for himself.

IronFist

08-08-2004, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by 5 star
stfu with this representation bullshit. u represent fucking ieatcock.com.

the players that placed top 5 dont give a shit. only ieatcock.com does.

edit: lol fuck this guy said agent orange. goddamn u stupid fucking du ma motherfucker. fuck you. fuck you, fuck your family. goddamn rice patty makers by day, jump out of trees with machine guns at night yelling du ma. fuck u. fucking 3rd world country tet offensive horse shit. YI WANG IS A GOD AMONG MEN

fLoE

08-08-2004, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by 720
Pyro beat ricky and justin. You fanboys can count ALL the tournies pyro didnt show up in. But the important fact remains, rikcy or justin couldnt beat pyro. Ricky was closer to beatin pyro than justin.

im not trying to start more shit here.. but hasnt ricky beaten pyro before?

720

08-08-2004, 09:03 PM

I believed he did. The reason this was brought up was because of more current events that have been taking place. I dont know when that match took place but i am assuming its been ahwile. Looking at that match would be like looking at wong when he was in the 5 on 5 USA vs. Japan.

EndLeSS8

08-08-2004, 09:09 PM

As far as I've seen in videos, pyrolee is really good. I honestly never thought Justin was SOO good at 3S, but I'm sure he's one of the best players in the US. Personally I don't know who is better after seeing JWong keep up ok with Daigo.

But pyrolee has improved thousandfold, at least from what I have seen in videos. I had a video of him getting double perfected by KO in a Yun/Yun match, but he now plays at a japanese level, and did do very well in the 5 on 5.

Dr. Strangelove

08-08-2004, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by kite raiser
I hate god damn faggots who jump onto threads and start shouting 'close the thread'. Shut up ffs, this thread is funny, don't like the thread, don't fucking read it

Indeed this thread owns. I love hate, i live off it.
Pyro sucks, Vic sucks, 5 star sucks. Exodus the dirty vietcong me love you long time cock sucking pho eating motherfucker's yun is the best that VietNam has to offer. HAIL CEASAR!!!!!

Shin-RoTeNdO

08-08-2004, 11:21 PM

Having missed EVO this year and the live postings and finally being able to get online here in Okinawa all I can say is... HOLY SHIT!! I've seen it done in practice mode where you record the dummy doing SAII and have the ai parry, but never seen it done by a human opponent. I've only gotten to parry the first 2 kicks untill I fuck it up whenever I've tried.

A must have vid for your collection!

KaiSingrz

08-08-2004, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

I challenge anyone in the USA $50 a match. If there is someone out there that is better than me, I'd love to see.
I challenge you to a $50 match...
...
...
...
OF MARVEL. (hey, you never said which game):D

seriously tho, Pyro's dope, FFA is dope, Justin's dope. everyone knows that. who care's?

Yansoma

08-08-2004, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by N-Ken

Yeah alright, let's rundown his accomplishments shall we:

-His team won a tourney in Japan
-3rd at a Newton tourney
-1st at NCR2(28 ppl:rolleyes:)
-5th at WCo3s
-garnering FFA hype
-winning random FFA tourneys

Let's look at Jwong's(for comparison) accomplishments in 3s:

-3rd at evo 2k4(more people than WCo3s BTW)
-1st at TX Showdown
-1st at The Last Stand
-1st at ECC9
-1st at NEC4

You're going to tell me his accomplishments earn him the best US player title when he hasn't won a tournament with anyone from outside of Cali for the last year? Seems like a big leap...

As for pyro:

I meant I don't think you represent anyone well when you don't go to tournaments outside of your own arcade and then still want everyone to jock you hardcore, that's scrub mentality, when you refuse to play unless everything is up to your standards...

Justin got 1st at MWC also.

JustinW

08-08-2004, 11:38 PM

I guess I post something now.

OK Pryo is very good in 3S. He beat me at the FFA tourney, but the stick I was using SUCKS!!!! I know Pyro can vouch for me on that and someone else was using it from FFA and had the same problem I did But I forgot who.

Right now we can say Pyro is up against me 1-0 but just one tournament win should not have settle the score. Im not taking anything away from Pyro because in reality he is a cool guy and he is really really good in 3S. So we can just leave it like that for now.

Dr. Strangelove

08-09-2004, 12:36 AM

this is the problem. we have stated long before that there was no beef between ffa and you bro. But what happens? flamers come on and fuck shit up. As far as im concerned, FFA's and Japans no #1 enemy is Exodus and only Exodus. We even have it on tape ^^ (hint hint). Everyone else is cool.

Jose 2.0

08-09-2004, 01:25 AM

thank you Pyro for telling me to read this, i havent laughed this hard since I saw Harold and Kumar. Roland makes me laugh, Fucking Yi had me rolling. I honestly read like 2 of Exodusessas how ever the fuck u spell that only 2 of ur posts then i realized that id rather eat chilly out of my own ass before reading another post from u. All i know is that Im #1 shit talker at family, even if i dont win , i talk shit, i win i never let up, wow sounds like Exodus but i actaully know these people and know i get owned ever fucking time, thats why i play Project Justice
Exodus ur a fucking TURTLE

5 star

08-09-2004, 01:45 AM

we dont give a shit what you fucking fanboy scrubs think and how many tournaments you memorize and how your hero places in them.

n-ken i thought i fucking told u not to come in here with a list of who placed high in what tourney. thats for ieatcock.com ok? k thnx

and the issue about not traveling. how many players are there really that can hang with FF or socals top 5? i have a hard time naming more than 6-8. no offense to those that are not considered in the 6-8, but its just not worth a $400 ticket if we already have that level of play where we are at. so really we don't care what ieatcock.com thinks.

Korngo

08-09-2004, 01:54 AM

5 star, you are my hero. =]

Dr. Strangelove

08-09-2004, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by 5 star
we dont give a shit what you fucking fanboy scrubs think and how many tournaments you memorize and how your hero places in them.

n-ken i thought i fucking told u not to come in here with a list of who placed high in what tourney. thats for ieatcock.com ok? k thnx

and the issue about not traveling. how many players are there really that can hang with FF or socals top 5? i have a hard time naming more than 6-8. no offense to those that are not considered in the 6-8, but its just not worth a $400 ticket if we already have that level of play where we are at. so really we don't care what ieatcock.com thinks.

word life.

5 star

08-09-2004, 02:08 AM

aye and where the fuck were u at evo n-ken? is that all u do? memorize who places where in what tourney from ieatcock.com? who got 13th at MWC 2001? please tell me, please please tell me. me love u long time where the fuck were u at evo? justin finishes 1st at this tourney, justin finishes 1st at that tourney, justin finishes on my face, where the fuck were u at the BIGGEST TOURNEY IN THE US? y'all talk but don't show up or place yourselves? wtf is that?

n-ken were u the guy in my pool during evo that i beat with just jump in rh and jump back rh and decided to take a phone call during the middle of my match from pyrolee asking me if the tourney started yet? was that u? cuz you were really good n-ken. good enough to tell pyrolee hes not tops. i'll give anyone the right to talk shit to me whos beat me in the tourney, so take a tip, if you haven't done anything yourself, just stfu and eat dick. k thnx

everyone hates FF already, even before the shit talking started, so what do i care now?

KaiSingrz

08-09-2004, 02:22 AM

:lol:
yi's dope

5 star

08-09-2004, 02:29 AM

im nice guy, everyone likes me

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OMGGGG my name is exodus.. ahhhh i got cum in my eye i got cum in my eye!

Chupacabra

08-09-2004, 02:58 AM

love the avatar man

Dr. Strangelove

08-09-2004, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by 5 star
aye and where the fuck were u at evo n-ken? is that all u do? memorize who places where in what tourney from ieatcock.com? who got 13th at MWC 2001? please tell me, please please tell me. me love u long time where the fuck were u at evo? justin finishes 1st at this tourney, justin finishes 1st at that tourney, justin finishes on my face, where the fuck were u at the BIGGEST TOURNEY IN THE US? y'all talk but don't show up or place yourselves? wtf is that?

n-ken were u the guy in my pool during evo that i beat with just jump in rh and jump back rh and decided to take a phone call during the middle of my match from pyrolee asking me if the tourney started yet? was that u? cuz you were really good n-ken. good enough to tell pyrolee hes not tops. i'll give anyone the right to talk shit to me whos beat me in the tourney, so take a tip, if you haven't done anything yourself, just stfu and eat dick. k thnx

everyone hates FF already, even before the shit talking started, so what do i care now?

lol daaamn fool calm down hahahah. You have reached a higher level of hate. I didnt know you could break it but you proved me wrong ^^
Hail Ceasar.

kofiend

08-09-2004, 04:39 AM

all this hate is hyping me up too:fury::mad: i need to play someone in the next 20 mins for maximum viciousness:D

can t wait till next year, after the first WC, peeps now know wassup. then you got EVO the next day, its MADNESS.

btw- that vid travelled so far and wide, 3rd strike in NJ is definetly showing a boost, anything that helps the scene is good.

my arcade now has peeps who can t do basic ass shit, but can parry supers:lol: these guys are gonna be popping out of everywhere the next few months.

DeAdSpAcE

08-09-2004, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by kofiend

my arcade now has peeps who can t do basic ass shit, but can parry supers:lol: these guys are gonna be popping out of everywhere the next few months.

Yeah my friends' the same thing too....need work on actual fighting but parries anything that comes in the way. Parries Ibuki's air knife super for free. Still teaching them how to fight. I should be playing you in 3s, fuck kof.

Arleath, 720, and 5 star pretty much broke the shit down on how it is with the pointless hate, statistic humping fanboys who barely showed or didnt show, and why we don't believe that JWong is the best US player. Sorry no offense Justin but we've all seen chun's been used this way and that (don't mean that you're shitty) but props to you on giving daigo a hard time.

kofiend

08-09-2004, 05:39 AM

deadspace- i haven t really got into 3rd strike till this year, i ve been on and off with it for about 5.
kof is still the shit IMO, aggressive and fast. swing by FnG in NJ sometime, i ll show you my yang/yun, after my loss i ll show you my ryu/ken:lol:

deanimate

08-09-2004, 04:13 PM

Well my opinion was that was smegging awesome :)
I saw it and was grinning like a mad cat on cheap acid

Flat out respect to daigo for that and respect to JW for putting up a damn good fight. Game should of been his but he rushed for the kill and boom town meow.

This kind of stuff only helps the sport to grow and get other people involved in it which is only a good thing eh?
Maybe then ill smegging beat someone...

5 star

08-10-2004, 11:15 PM

some fucking idiot got owned so bad on the threads, he sent me a virus.. lol

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DO NOT CLICK THESE LINKS

FX Hoodlum

08-10-2004, 11:35 PM

I have no idea who half of these people are.
But the shit 5 star has said about nammers makes him my favourite poster on SRK ever.

720

08-10-2004, 11:38 PM

Haha he put a smiley face on it. You must've fucked him up bad 5star.

LOL sending a virus through srk. He woulda had a better chance saying FREE EVO DVD click here. ROFL!!

Anyways for them to take a flame war that seriously, shows immaturity. The interet is free for anyone to say (almost) anything. If he/she couldnt handle 5star's shit talkin, obviously that guy wasnt prepared.

lol...free porn.

Dr. Strangelove

08-10-2004, 11:57 PM

ahahahahah that shit fuckin owned...
lol nice one yi. ppl targeting you trying to email bomb on your ass.

5 star

08-11-2004, 12:06 AM

evidently, i put my dick too far down there throats and it is still there, they are having a hard time responding to my posts. so obviously, they go for a tactic that was used in 90s. good job

DC_StaTic

08-11-2004, 12:53 AM

pyro/yi give it up .. this is exactly how the "soo is a over hyped player" thing started, u guys will never win :lol: .. u guys know the truth shit even ffa mvc2 players know the truth and im one of them.. dont bother with these stupid comments cause they will never shut up ... :lol:

p.s some one posted a few pages back .. pyro has to win 3 majors to become the best? ... lol is there a set number of tourney wins to become the best in 3s or what? :lol: :lame:

Adam Warlock

08-11-2004, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by 5 star
some fucking idiot got owned so bad on the threads, he sent me a virus.. lol

here i'll show everyone:

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Subject:
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fucking idiots. yeah the webmaster at shoryuken is really going to send me fucking porn.. learn to spell "here" moron. took out the http www. just in case someone accidently clicks on them

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You were on a roll with the hate...

But you're a fuckin dumbass. Mad people got hit with that shit. it wasn't just you. It was spoofed. As cool as your rants are, I don't think anyone gives a fuck enough to send you a virus or even take the time to find out your e-mail address. Get off your own dick, you're not that important.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
ahahahahah that shit fuckin owned...
lol nice one yi. ppl targeting you trying to email bomb on your ass.

You two share the same brain cell?

Originally posted by 5 star

learn to spell "here" moron.

Originally posted by 5 star
evidently, i put my dick too far down there throats and it is still there, they are having a hard time responding to my posts. so obviously, they go for a tactic that was used in 90s. good job

Way to be dumb. The irony is just too much.

N-Ken

08-11-2004, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by DC_StaTic
pyro/yi give it up .. this is exactly how the "soo is a over hyped player" thing started, u guys will never win :lol: .. u guys know the truth shit even ffa mvc2 players know the truth and im one of them.. dont bother with these stupid comments cause they will never shut up ... :lol:

p.s some one posted a few pages back .. pyro has to win 3 majors to become the best? ... lol is there a set number of tourney wins to become the best in 3s or what? :lol: :lame:

Well normally I would advocate actually understanding what was going on in a thread before posting in it, but you alreadty skipped it I guess.

Pyro was the one who came here in the first place saying how great he was. Then when a couple people disagreed, he was like " I dont know why all these fanboys dont think Im the best", it's not like these are unprovocated attacks on him. The fact is, he doesn't travel, he doesn't feel he needs to, ok fine. But when he doesn't go to tournaments, he can't expect everyone to suck his dick about how he's #1 in the US. He very well might be the top player, but JWong proves it with every 3s tourney he goes to(and he actually goes to most of them) Pyro only rattles off what he says the japanese said and waits for everyone to come to his arcade to play. Reminds me of some mall scrubs I've met, who claim they're the best in the world but think they're too good to travel to other places :rolleyes:

Carnevil

08-11-2004, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by N-Ken

Pyro was the one who came here in the first place saying how great he was. Then when a couple people disagreed, he was like " I dont know why all these fanboys dont think Im the best", it's not like these are unprovocated attacks on him. The fact is, he doesn't travel, he doesn't feel he needs to, ok fine. But when he doesn't go to tournaments, he can't expect everyone to suck his dick about how he's #1 in the US. He very well might be the top player, but JWong proves it with every 3s tourney he goes to(and he actually goes to most of them) Pyro only rattles off what he says the japanese said and waits for everyone to come to his arcade to play. Reminds me of some mall scrubs I've met, who claim they're the best in the world but think they're too good to travel to other places :rolleyes: Actually, Pyro goes to Japan quite a bit from what I've heard.

Sabin

08-11-2004, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by N-Ken
[B]
He very well might be the top player, but JWong proves it with every 3s tourney he goes to

Remember, Justin's wins dont count as they're mongolian tournaments! :bluu:

pyro comes off as being really arrogant saying things like that. i dunno, imo a true champion never backs down from any challenge, , hell even the top japanese players, despite all the bitching ive heard from that setup, entered evo.

i hope other top players dont have your mentality pyro, you really sound like you're "too good" for everyone else and that other tourneys outside ffa dont count, cause they're "mongolian" tournaments. that's a straight up diss to everyone that plays 3s competively outside of ffa. Anyway, hopefully you guys will attend another major outside of cali in the coming months to set aside all this bs.

i do agree with this though, screw all the statistic counting fanboys that never show up to tourneys to prove their -own- worth.

N-Ken

08-11-2004, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Sabin

i do agree with this though, screw all the statistic counting fanboys that never show up to tourneys to prove their -own- worth.

ouch:bluu:

In any case the rest of that is really what I was trying to say. I also want to say that I believe Justin is the best TOURNAMENT player who has ever lived, no one rises to the occasion like him, no one tries harder from loser's, he is a true champ, even though I've been somewhat of a hater throughout his long reign, I have come to this realization.

TheDarkPhoenix

08-11-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by N-Ken

ouch:bluu:

In any case the rest of that is really what I was trying to say. I also want to say that I believe Justin is the best TOURNAMENT player who has ever lived, no one rises to the occasion like him, no one tries harder from loser's, he is a true champ, even though I've been somewhat of a hater throughout his long reign, I have come to this realization.

I agree like Mike was to basketball Justin is to mvc2/fighting games.

You might not like him or his stlye but come turny time you won't beat it either...So weather you love, hatem or don't care you gotta respect him. Thats why that whole evo thing is so big Justins good everyone knows it...Might not accept it but they know. So when they saw him gettin beasted by dagio, another top teir player, Or soo then its like the greatest thing ever.....Why? You just don't see it that often....its like seeing mike get shook or shaq gettin dunked on, or kobe missin every 3 pointer.

white shadow

08-11-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by TheDarkPhoenix

I agree like Mike was to basketball Justin is to mvc2/fighting games.

You might not like him or his stlye but come turny time you won't beat it either...So weather you love, hatem or don't care you gotta respect him. Thats why that whole evo thing is so big Justins good everyone knows it...Might not accept it but they know. So when they saw him gettin beasted by dagio, another top teir player, Or soo then its like the greatest thing ever.....Why? You just don't see it that often....its like seeing mike get shook or shaq gettin dunked on, or kobe missin every 3 pointer.

Originally posted by white shadow

My greatest fear is maybe Wong might end up as a "King Of Games" of sorts in the next 3 years of EVO garnering even more hatred.:o I mean did you see JW's results in last years EVO compared to this years?!!!:eek: That's like a big leap.

pyrolee

08-11-2004, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Sabin
Remember, Justin's wins dont count as they're mongolian tournaments! :bluu:
In boxing if you beat all of the contenders but never the champion, does that make you the best?

pyro comes off as being really arrogant saying things like that. i dunno, imo a true champion never backs down from any challenge, , hell even the top japanese players, despite all the bitching ive heard from that setup, entered evo.
Ok I challenge you to play on a mas stick with no joystick attached and only the jab button working properly, c'mon champ.

The japanese flew a very long way for what they thought was going to be better than last year's tournament.

If you flew a few thousand miles for a specific event, even if it wasn't all you expected, wouldn't you at least enter it?

Ex. A guy drives 100 miles to see a movie, gets there, and someone walking out that just saw it says "damn that movie sucked!". Do you think the guy would just turn around and drive home then? C'mon now.

i hope other top players dont have your mentality pyro, you really sound like you're "too good" for everyone else and that other tourneys outside ffa dont count, cause they're "mongolian" tournaments. that's a straight up diss to everyone that plays 3s competively outside of ffa. Anyway, hopefully you guys will attend another major outside of cali in the coming months to set aside all this bs.
Most FFA people feel this way, Im the first to say it.

The other tournaments outside FFA do count, you just can't say who is the best nationally in 3s from them, because the best player(s) don't enter them. In other words, ECC9 MWC etc, proved that Justin was the best out of those tournaments, not who the best player in the states were. To prove that, you need the top players to face off and the winner becomes the best. This is what happened at World Championships of 3s.

Why is this still going? Justin already said I'm one tourney up on him, meaning he has to beat me now. If someone beats the champ, don't they become the champ? I'll leave it at that.

Arlieth Tralare

08-11-2004, 04:26 PM

I don't have a lot of time since I need to run to work twenty minutes ago, but:

Look. Most of us here at FFA don't think it's worth spending hundreds of dollars to travel around the USA for competition that would, at best, be equal to us. The handful of USA top tier (Hsien, Wong, etc) are the only ones on level with FFA, and it's much more worthwhile for us to save our money up and go to Japan, where we're at Japanese upper-mid tier and the top tier still rapes us twelve ways to Sunday- and we learn more shit.

Basically, it's not worth going to other tournaments since we're not trying to prove anything. (Whether we need to prove it or not is what the rest of you guys are yakking about. Pyro shouldn't even need to talk in this thread.)

(Okay, so Pyro has a big head. But if you wanna pop it, it's still your prerogative to come over here. I don't care either which way, because if Pyro loses, we get to make him buy us dinner for the next week straight.)

End of story.

Hoonyo

08-11-2004, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Arlieth Tralare
I don't have a lot of time since I need to run to work twenty minutes ago, but:

Look. Most of us here at FFA don't think it's worth spending hundreds of dollars to travel around the USA for competition that would, at best, be equal to us. So winning a major like ECC9 wouldn't have paid for your trip + some? Not only will you come back a winner, but you get to silence all your critics. Thus, you wouldn't be wasting time with this kinda flamewar shit.

Serpent

08-11-2004, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

In boxing if you beat all of the contenders but never the champion, does that make you the best?

Circular logic; your claim to being champion is disputed at best, or else this wouldn't still be going on. Speaking of which...how is this debate still going on?

The other tournaments outside FFA do count, you just can't say who is the best nationally in 3s from them, because the best player(s) don't enter them. In other words, ECC9 MWC etc, proved that Justin was the best out of those tournaments, not who the best player in the states were. To prove that, you need the top players to face off and the winner becomes the best. This is what happened at World Championships of 3s.

You can't say you're the best nationally by not even entering them though. If Justin simply chose never to play another person in MvC2 again, should he still be considered the best MvC2 player in the world a year from now, 2 years from now? Lets say Soo kept winning tournies out west, but never travelled, would he then suddenly default to #1? Depending on how you answer this I think everyone will understand your viewpoint, because that seems to be whats going on here.

Why is this still going? Justin already said I'm one tourney up on him, meaning he has to beat me now. If someone beats the champ, don't they become the champ? I'll leave it at that. [/B]

I think SRK ate that post...cuz I remember it not being there when I checked again. Also I'm pretty sure he said you're one up, but he isn't ready to concede that you're better from just one win. He also cited bad sticks, so if you're using the argument that Evo had problems so it shouldn't count, your tourney win over Justin should equally be discounted.

Originally posted by Arlieth Tralare
Look. Most of us here at FFA don't think it's worth spending hundreds of dollars to travel around the USA for competition that would, at best, be equal to us. The handful of USA top tier (Hsien, Wong, etc) are the only ones on level with FFA, and it's much more worthwhile for us to save our money up and go to Japan, where we're at Japanese upper-mid tier and the top tier still rapes us twelve ways to Sunday- and we learn more shit.

It's not worth Justin's time to travel around everywhere and win basically everything he enters, but he still does it. As a result he gets props for it. Why should Justin bother travelling for MvC2 when thats not even a question?

Yeah its good to go to Japan, but if you really want to brag I'd think you guys would travel around the US too, and you'd be able to raise the level of play by showing what you're capable of.

Also, Japan travels here, and has been travelling here for the past few years when they're better than us. That shouldn't be a reason for refusing. I feel you on the money issue though, I'm not made of the greens either.

Basically, it's not worth going to other tournaments since we're not trying to prove anything. (Whether we need to prove it or not is what the rest of you guys are yakking about. Pyro shouldn't even need to talk in this thread.)

(Okay, so Pyro has a big head. But if you wanna pop it, it's still your prerogative to come over here. I don't care either which way, because if Pyro loses, we get to make him buy us dinner for the next week straight.)

End of story.

Not really. Hey, if this drums up interest in 3s and gets everyone to travel and play I guess thats cool. But I doubt anybody really feels they need to go beat Pyro as opposed to Pyro travelling and beating people in order to justify him talking. I don't really care either way, I kinda like reading Pyro's posts. In the end, I'm not Justin so it doesn't matter to me if Pyro or Justin is better. Basically all you're going to get by posting here is fanboys siding and arguing, and then people like me who stay neutral and just don't bother really picking a side. I do admit though, I'd be rooting for Justin in the matchup since he's NYC/EC etc. :cool:

TheDarkPhoenix

08-11-2004, 07:06 PM

owned

pyrolee

08-11-2004, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Serpent
Circular logic; your claim to being champion is disputed at best, or else this wouldn't still be going on.
The premise that I was the champion in the boxing example is irrelevant. It was only a synonymous example of arguments that the majority of SRK posters were using. AKA "Justin wins all these tournaments so he's the best; even though you beat him or have more skill it doesn't matter."

If you want to take another example from an opposite view and say Justin was the champion, whom I defeated that will work as well. Ex. Mike Tyson (Justin) was the champ; then got knocked out. New guy is the champ (me).
You can't say you're the best nationally by not even entering them though.
Why can I not? Not every "champion" enters every tournament. The rest of the tournaments in the USA, where the champion/contender do not play each other, should be viewed as bouts or events, and not as the tournament that decides the best player.
If Justin simply chose never to play another person in MvC2 again, should he still be considered the best MvC2 player in the world a year from now, 2 years from now?
Justin is #1 in MvC2 because no one can defeat him; his title will hold true until he retires or is defeated, much like in boxing. It would be interesting to see the debate that would arise if he was defeated, and if he would still be considered #1, oh wait this is the debate right here, but for 3s.
Lets say Soo kept winning tournies out west, but never travelled, would he then suddenly default to #1?
Top players must play each other to show who is #1.
Depending on how you answer this I think everyone will understand your viewpoint, because that seems to be whats going on here.
I doubt it.
Also I'm pretty sure he said you're one up, but he isn't ready to concede that you're better from just one win.
Well, a lot of former "champs" hold contempt for their previous losses to a contender.
He also cited bad sticks, so if you're using the argument that Evo had problems so it shouldn't count, your tourney win over Justin should equally be discounted.
Lets not make thin connections please. Evo first of all allowed outside sticks and equipment; not to mention using the PS2 version of 3s for a few of its matches (something that hasn't even been tested yet). With all these untested variables now coming together all at one time, to work together in harmony, who knows what kind of problems they would have encountered (and did).

World Championships of 3s on the other hand was all arcade with a technician on hand in case the sticks failed. Justin had the opportunity to switch sides and stop the match incase something happened. He never said anything bad about the cabinet he played against me on, up until his post on the SRK board.

I also played on the cabinet he was on during previous matches and noted that it was fine IMO.

We did talk about the sticks and we did agree that the american to linked japanese cabinet had a problem with one of the diagonals. In fact my match vs sugiyama was stopped during the first game because I was having a problem with the diagonal. The technician looked at the problem and fixed it.

And as a side note, from watching my match vs justin, I doubt any stick malfunction, due to Justin's 100% hit confirmation into super and accuracy of his play. This is only my opinion on the sticks at FFA I cannot read justin's mind or know the type of hand movement/style he uses which may have contributed to his belief the sticks sucked.

Yeah its good to go to Japan, but if you really want to brag I'd think you guys would travel around the US too, and you'd be able to raise the level of play by showing what you're capable of.
Possibly in the future.
Also, Japan travels here, and has been travelling here for the past few years when they're better than us. That shouldn't be a reason for refusing. I feel you on the money issue though, I'm not made of the greens either.
One of the big reasons Japan likes to come to the USA is because of the prize pot. In japan I believe it's illegal to throw tournaments with a cash pot, or at least difficult to get the authorization. Also japanese think the USA is cool :cool:
But I doubt anybody really feels they need to go beat Pyro as opposed to Pyro travelling and beating people in order to justify him talking.
Who with skill is there left for me to beat in the USA?
I don't really care either way, I kinda like reading Pyro's posts. In the end, I'm not Justin so it doesn't matter to me if Pyro or Justin is better. Basically all you're going to get by posting here is fanboys siding and arguing, and then people like me who stay neutral and just don't bother really picking a side. I do admit though, I'd be rooting for Justin in the matchup since he's NYC/EC etc. :cool:
Thanks for giving a legitimate view, and not just an ignorant post.
Originally posted by Arlieth Tralare
Okay, so Pyro has a big head. But if you wanna pop it, it's still your prerogative to come over here.
I'm not the one who told Japan on stage "We're going to show you what the fuck we got! :lol:

Originally posted by TheDarkPhoenix
owned
huh?

RoninChaos

08-11-2004, 10:40 PM

Lot of shit talkin' in this thread for no reason.

Somebody call an ambulence.

Tell the EMT's to bring an oxygen mask. Somebody can't handle their smoke. Or at least that's what it looked like.

Buu

08-11-2004, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by RoninChaos
Lot of shit talkin' in this thread for no reason.

Somebody call an ambulence.

Tell the EMT's to bring an oxygen mask. Somebody can't handle their smoke. Or at least that's what it looked like.

Hahaha, fucking pussy.

R.P.D rookie

08-11-2004, 10:48 PM

I honestly have never heard of Daigo before this point mainly because I stick to Marvel. Like someone said at the very beginning of this thread, even if you don't like fighting games, this one was a must see. I played it for a little while then gave up on it, but seeing that kind of made me want to start playing again.:lol: I can't be the only one who feels that way. Is it me or does anyone else hear supporters of Justin in the background as Justin starts up Chun-Li's special only for them to be drowned out by the crowd as Daigo parries every single kick. Fucking incredible. Did I mention I don't even play this game?

Jose 2.0

08-11-2004, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by pyrolee

Who with skill is there left for me to beat in the USA?

I am the only one left in America who u havent beat!!!

KrassHole

08-11-2004, 11:48 PM

Omega's Dust

08-12-2004, 01:14 AM

I'd love to play some of you guys, I'd like a challange for a change, but seeing as I live in Ireland that ain't gonna happen to soon....Best Ryu player at home, yep I am.

Also that vid was class, Daigo really went to town on the parrying.

B.S.Y

08-12-2004, 02:33 AM

Chupacabra

08-12-2004, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by pyrolee

The premise that I was the champion in the boxing example is irrelevant. It was only a synonymous example of arguments that the majority of SRK posters were using. AKA "Justin wins all these tournaments so he's the best; even though you beat him or have more skill it doesn't matter."

If you want to take another example from an opposite view and say Justin was the champion, whom I defeated that will work as well. Ex. Mike Tyson (Justin) was the champ; then got knocked out. New guy is the champ (me).

Why can I not? Not every "champion" enters every tournament. The rest of the tournaments in the USA, where the champion/contender do not play each other, should be viewed as bouts or events, and not as the tournament that decides the best player.

Justin is #1 in MvC2 because no one can defeat him; his title will hold true until he retires or is defeated, much like in boxing. It would be interesting to see the debate that would arise if he was defeated, and if he would still be considered #1, oh wait this is the debate right here, but for 3s.

Top players must play each other to show who is #1.

I doubt it.

Well, a lot of former "champs" hold contempt for their previous losses to a contender.

Lets not make thin connections please. Evo first of all allowed outside sticks and equipment; not to mention using the PS2 version of 3s for a few of its matches (something that hasn't even been tested yet). With all these untested variables now coming together all at one time, to work together in harmony, who knows what kind of problems they would have encountered (and did).

World Championships of 3s on the other hand was all arcade with a technician on hand in case the sticks failed. Justin had the opportunity to switch sides and stop the match incase something happened. He never said anything bad about the cabinet he played against me on, up until his post on the SRK board.

I also played on the cabinet he was on during previous matches and noted that it was fine IMO.

We did talk about the sticks and we did agree that the american to linked japanese cabinet had a problem with one of the diagonals. In fact my match vs sugiyama was stopped during the first game because I was having a problem with the diagonal. The technician looked at the problem and fixed it.

And as a side note, from watching my match vs justin, I doubt any stick malfunction, due to Justin's 100% hit confirmation into super and accuracy of hi