View Full Version : SF Anniversary Guide is awesome
Infested Jester
08-19-2004, 11:08 AM
I picked one of these up today, its pretty sweet. It comes with a free 3S soundtrack, and the guide itself is quite useful. They go in depth about Kara, SJ cancelling, Negative Edge etc. Also it has what I would call very good strategies and combos when compared to other guides. They have sections in Uriens part for example on how to set up the unblockable Aegis and things like that. I'd suggest picking it up for the soundtrack alone though.
P. Gorath
08-19-2004, 11:13 AM
interesting...who wrote it?
Kikosho
08-19-2004, 11:13 AM
yeah, it's written by some of srk's best apparently like Mr. Wizard.
Infested Jester
08-19-2004, 11:25 AM
Hyper SF AE:
Strategy and Combos: Joey Cuellar, then it lists a whole bunch of well knowns like Valle, Choi, Sirlin etc.
3S:
Adam Deats for strategy and combos, then it thanks Hsien Chang, Austin 3S and a few others.
Skyler
08-19-2004, 11:38 AM
The strategy guide is missing one thing, the daigo SF3rdstrike comeback story. If they waited, then the could've wrote about how Daigo outsmarted justin by parry all chunlis attack with ken and finish her candy ass of with a flashy combo. only 11 more days before the game comes out. :)
HyperD
08-19-2004, 12:10 PM
Thanks a bunch Jester for telling us what's in the guide, i'll be getting it for sure now. Quick question though, is there frame data for either/or HSF or 3S?
Thanks man
mopreme
08-19-2004, 12:19 PM
Kamui and I authored the 3rd Strike strategy guide section. We pushed very hard for them to include all of the frame data and allow us to devote many many pages to actual strategy and tactics, and not just have a 200 page move lists with pretty pictures.
This guide has frame data for every move, something that was only available in Japanese guides in the past. The frame data is the arcade/ps2 frame data, unlike the Japanese guide which uses the DC data which is different.
If you think things like many pages devoted to strategy, advanced tactics and setups, and frame data, and all that good stuff is useful, valuable information and really helpful, then please tell Brady Games. Email them and tell them that all of this stuff was awesome and you expect this type of information in their future guides. In Japan, this stuff is expected. But over here, players haven't demanded this type of treatment in their strategy guides. So please email Brady Games and tell them which things in this guide you really liked (like frame data, in depth analysis of characters, moves, strategy, etc). Let them know that you expect this level of detail and coverage in all of their future guides. Brady will listen to YOU more than anyone else, because you guys are the ones buying the guide.
If you want to help set a trend for all future strategy guides to focus on what should be in them, actual strategy and useful information like frame data, then please email Brady and tell them how much this guide helped you, how much you liked it, and that you expect this type of information in all their future guides. If you think it's awesome, let them know. Also, if you think there are things that can be inproved, let them know! And of course buy the guide if you think it is good. It's worth it just for the 3s soundtrack.
You can email Brady Games at: feedback@bradygames.com
I hope everyone likes the guide. We all worked hard on it trying to give you guys something special, and I think it came out pretty decent. There's tons of art in it as well. Thanks.
FighterX
08-19-2004, 12:27 PM
Mopreme, I haven't seen it yet (going to get it today) but thanks to yourself and Kamui (and everyone else who worked on the guide) in advance for all the hard work. I've heard nothing but good things about this guide from those who have seen it, and I can't wait to buy it for myself today.
UrIeNaToR
08-19-2004, 12:37 PM
Yeah, not since the U.S. alhpa 2 strat guide have I seen something with alotta in depth stuff especially with the charge partitioning section..i was really impressed with that...btw, i know that mr. wizard and mopreme helped out in doing the guide but who are the other people that helped out other than kamui?...thanks guys.
HyperD
08-19-2004, 12:39 PM
Thank you very much mopreme , kamui,Mr. Wizard and everyone elses who helped for their contributions to this guide. like fighterX, i've heard nothing but positive comments regarding this guide. I'm sure that this guide will help out my game quite a bit, and the added 3S ost is a wonderful gift.
I'm also sure that this guide will set a great example for future north american produced strategy guides for fighting games.
Hozanto
08-19-2004, 01:11 PM
I received my copy of the guide in the mail today. Great work guys.
Ultima
08-19-2004, 01:26 PM
Holy fucking shit. I was holding off on getting the SFAE guide until I got feedback, but knowing that Kamui & Mopreme and others worked on the guide makes it a MUST GET now. COuld this be a guide that actually challenges the Vs. Books SFA2 Guide for greatness? Wow! Thanks to all those involved!
AND I get the 3S soundtrack? Is this for every copy or just a limited deal thing????
DarkGiygas
08-19-2004, 02:26 PM
Does anyone have scans or digital cam pics just to see what it looks like? (if thats allowed)
Considering buying this guide soon after hearing all these positive comments.
MrFujisawa
08-19-2004, 02:34 PM
Brady Games website is just giving me
Sorry! We are unable to process your credit card at this time. Your credit card has not been charged. Please try again later.
Ana amzon dont appear to have it in stock yet (and also dont say if it comes with the cd)
anywhere else i could order it? (im in the UK so somewhere close to home would be nice but im all ears)
Alphaj9
08-19-2004, 02:49 PM
It's pretty cool that someone that worked on the guide actually posted here. I plan on picking up the guide for sure but I am holding off on the game until the xbox version hits with online play. My old dreamcast version will be good enough to brush up on my sf3 skills :) Hey any of you guys seen that new SF AC special addition pad for PS2 with the character in the center and the 6 button face layout. I preordered one even if you guys own a arcade stick it's still looks like some pretty cool collectors items. Check out capcom.com and follow the SF AC link on the USA front page sry no link.
V1ru5
08-19-2004, 03:25 PM
noone seems to have it in stock here :( where is everyone getting their copy?
Muskau
08-19-2004, 03:49 PM
damn I don't have a credit card, I wonder if my friend that works at Dymocks bookstore can get it in?
MechZZ
08-19-2004, 03:59 PM
I just got mine from my local Electornics Boutique... it's awesome xD
V1ru5
08-19-2004, 04:00 PM
I just got mine from my local Electornics Boutique... it's awesome xD
im jealous... i went and thay didnt have any in yet..cheapos. Ill go over tommorow and see whats up. Im so excited!!
Revolver
08-19-2004, 04:08 PM
I just got mine today at EB as well. Haven't looked at much yet, but it is great for what I have seen!
DarkCatalyst
08-19-2004, 04:17 PM
I picked mine up at EB last night, and honestly, I have so much to say about this guide that I won't even be able to scratch the surface. So, instead of posting the ten-page litany of praise I wish I had time for, I'll just throw out mad props to all involved - thanks for writing what should forever be referred to simply as the bible of Street Fighter. You guys fucking rule.
kofiend
08-19-2004, 04:50 PM
i just ordered mine today, yay
kofiend
08-19-2004, 05:06 PM
this is the right one?
http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744003946
Kikosho
08-19-2004, 05:08 PM
That's the one. Can't wait to get it myself.
Mecha71
08-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Got mine from EB today, some really great stuff. Im loveing the cd.
HellMUT
08-19-2004, 05:16 PM
ok, you said the frame data is for the arcade/ps2 frame data. is the xbox frame data going to be the same or different? (ok, i know the xbox version hasn't came out yet, so i guess a very good guess would be nice, unless you actually know)
V1ru5
08-19-2004, 05:17 PM
Got mine from EB today, some really great stuff. Im loveing the cd.
:'( evey post makes me want it more and more. Here are some questions I have.For those who have it already. :)
1. Does the CD come in its own Jewel case?
2. How many tracks? :p
3. Does it have an artwork section for both SF2 and s3?
MechZZ
08-19-2004, 05:24 PM
:'( evey post makes me want it more and more. Here are some questions I have.For those who have it already. :)
1. Does the CD come in its own Jewel case?
2. How many tracks? :p
3. Does it have an artwork section for both SF2 and s3?
1. No it doesn't it comes attached like in some paper thingy
2. There's like 37 tracks
3. and the art section in the book is for both i believe
Anything written by SRK people is good.
Just like the Tekken 3 guide written by Valle, Cureton, etc.
Best guide I have ever seen.
Now I'm definitly picking it up.
Crayfish
08-19-2004, 05:38 PM
OH I would LOVE this...I still have my origonal Hyperfighting guide from 93. Does anyone know if Bradygames guides are sold in the uk and ifso is this will turn up in the UK at some point. If not where else could UK peeps get hold of this?
Hoonyo
08-19-2004, 05:42 PM
I just purchased this guide from the local Gamestop. It's an excellent guide, and I commend all the hard work you guys put into making this guide. This is definitely worth buying.
platinum_pinoy
08-19-2004, 05:51 PM
Yeah, that strategy guide is VERY good. All the frame data, advanced tactics and whatnot is so inspiring to fighting games that I hope this kind of attention to detail will revive the fighting game scene. The strategy guide is serious, guys, so be sure to get this one.
TheDarkPhoenix
08-19-2004, 05:59 PM
Im sure this guide is good stuff. I dunno why but i always seem a bit taken anytime someone I've played against or met is involed in major projects like this. Ima deff check this guide out and send a email off if its as good as i hear. :cool:
NeREMIXED
08-19-2004, 06:51 PM
maybe cause im in cali or something but EVERY store i went to today said they didn't have the guide in stock.
platinum_pinoy
08-19-2004, 06:54 PM
Anything written by SRK people is good.
Just like the Tekken 3 guide written by Valle, Cureton, etc.
Best guide I have ever seen.
Now I'm definitly picking it up.
Valle plays Tekken 3?
blackadde
08-19-2004, 07:00 PM
Well .. I'm sold. Kudos to everyone involved.
Gaijinblaze
08-19-2004, 09:26 PM
Does anyone have scans or digital cam pics just to see what it looks like? (if thats allowed)
Considering buying this guide soon after hearing all these positive comments.
I hope you heed the frame data. No more 1-frame Shipps complaints! :cool:
To anyone who has listened to the Mars Colony 3S OST, how does the audio quality compare to the one included with the guide? Thanks.
J-ride
08-19-2004, 10:27 PM
That is great, I will pick it up as soon as It is in the stores or I can find it online. I will also write them a letter thanking them, everyone on SRK should do the same.
Sex)packets
08-19-2004, 11:30 PM
wooo i think i'll get 3s just because of this guide.
AKumar
08-20-2004, 12:12 AM
mopreme have you had any playtime with the x box version of 3rd strike or any info about it?
ShinjiGohan
08-20-2004, 12:33 AM
Very good 3s section, however honestly I found the HSF2AE section to be a bit lacking. No frame data, no mention of Dhalsims traps, the beginning of it was good though with the CPS1 links and other explaination of terms. With that I realize that the book would be another 1000 pages long if it went into as much depth per version per character character as it did in the 3s section.
With that, it was still a great read.
vpt_whatup
08-20-2004, 01:35 AM
which store did u guys find this guide at?
edit: nvm i found one :D
Rioting Soul
08-20-2004, 03:04 AM
I have Brady's Limited Edition Soul Calibur 2 strat guide and I can expect nothing but goodness from the SF:AC guide. The cover is glossy paperboard with the SC soundtrack inside a small pocket on the inside of the front part of the cover. The actual book is slotted within the paperboard cover for reinforcement. Under the CD pocket is the soundtrack listing in english and japanese. The first page is an introduction to the game(a small insight to the story and then talking about the game). Page two tells the history of the game series(in this case Soul Edge/Calibur). The soundtrack has great quality.
Aizen
08-20-2004, 03:09 AM
It's a bitch trying to find this in stores for some reason. I was planning on getting mine today but the dude at the store said it's probably in the back somewhere but they haven't even opened up the boxes yet. I was told to check back the next day -- fuckin' lazy bastards. Anyways, now that I know what's inside the thing, I'll be getting one.
RoninChaos
08-20-2004, 03:13 AM
I'm going to email Brady today and ask that they keep doing guides like this cause this is an actual tool that will help people understand the game. EVERYBODY on srk should write them and tell them the same. Don't say you will, do that shit.
I do have a question though. What is the print run on this thing? I already got a copy, and I've told other friends interested in the game to pick up this guide, but they can't find it. Apparently hardly anybody has it in the ATL. I expect this won't be a problem when the game actually comes out, but it would be a shame to have this guide become super rare because the print run was low. Who should we contact if the print run is low and demand more copies printed?
Neo_Slasher
08-20-2004, 05:54 AM
I picked one of these up today, its pretty sweet. It comes with a free 3S soundtrack, and the guide itself is quite useful. They go in depth about Kara, SJ cancelling, Negative Edge etc. Also it has what I would call very good strategies and combos when compared to other guides. They have sections in Uriens part for example on how to set up the unblockable Aegis and things like that. I'd suggest picking it up for the soundtrack alone though.
Where did you get it?
kofiend
08-20-2004, 06:06 AM
http://www.bradygames.com/title/0744003946
thank goodness i ordered mine before posting the link, this shit is going out like wild fire online and off. order your copy today, for 20 bucks, theres no better deal. i also emailed bradygames and went on and on about how THIS is the way it should be done.
Difoj
08-20-2004, 06:35 AM
Just placed an order for mine :)
shoryukenH2
08-20-2004, 07:01 AM
Very good 3s section, however honestly I found the HSF2AE section to be a bit lacking. No frame data, no mention of Dhalsims traps, the beginning of it was good though with the CPS1 links and other explaination of terms. With that I realize that the book would be another 1000 pages long if it went into as much depth per version per character character as it did in the 3s section.
With that, it was still a great read.
Wait, wait. So how is the hsf section? Frame data, I don't really care about, but is there overall a good strategy section in it? I've got little interest in 3s so if I bought this book it would only be for hsf.
enygmacuzz
08-20-2004, 08:45 AM
Wazup, i'm new to shoryuken, and me and my homeboy saw the Daigo video last weekend. We were like wat da fuck. The japanese are sick, but i still feel like i still got a chance. :D
-SF Veteran, since '92
DarkChylde
08-20-2004, 10:04 AM
Awesome guide by everyone involved. Like everyone else said, pick it up. Also if you go by Gamestop you can get the guide with 20% off with purchase or reservation of the game. Also if anyone has trouble picking it up, I can prolly buy a few extra copies, you're gonna have to pay for shipping of course though. PM if interested. And give Brady feedback on their guides so they can continue putting out quality stuff.
Battosai
08-20-2004, 10:42 AM
I should have asked BradyGames to let me put my input For CE Bison.
Instead of Sirlin's crappy combo input. But overall its a very good guide for begginers. Two Thumbs up
MrFujisawa
08-20-2004, 10:57 AM
well ive been trying to order it from brady's website for days now and it still giving me
Sorry! We are unable to process your credit card at this
time. Your credit card has not been charged. Please try again later.
maybe it cant process overseas cards bah
only other option is to wait for amazon.com to get it in.
any other UK people have luck getting hold of this?
Crayfish
08-20-2004, 10:57 AM
I should have asked BradyGames to let me put my input For CE Bison.
Instead of Sirlin's crappy combo input. But overall its a very good guide for begginers. Two Thumbs up
AAAAAARRRRRHGGGGGGGG, I want this sooooooo bad. Can anyone please breakdown what is featured in the HSFAE section, how many pages, is it mainly tactics (I hope so this is SF2 afterall) or combos (Hope not) like the old hyper guide, etc.....
Mecha71
08-20-2004, 11:17 AM
I got mine at EB, they had 4 copies of it, i got the first, but i dont expect any of the rest to sell, as i live in a very small town and amount of people who play fighters is extreamly low. Sucks for me, not that much competition. Now the wait till Jan for the xbox version, i hope GGXXR will last me till Jan, then I should have all my fighting needs takeng care of for a while.
AzN_Skater
08-20-2004, 11:22 AM
Seriously, everyoen should email bradygames. If there's enough reader response, maybe, just maybe, they'll put more effort into future guides.
EDIT: Just finished sending my email.
ShinjiGohan
08-20-2004, 11:25 AM
HSF2AE section is about 90 pages long (from Blanka to Akuma), it has a 6 page section before that explaining several basics to advanced general gameplay aspects. I found that part to be good. But the character section had for 2 pages pictures of moves, and commands for said special moves. It then has a short paragraph on each version of the character that can be choosen. To give you a rough idea why s/he was good in that version of the game or not. They give about 2 combos per version of a character, and give 2 match ups, one match up in the characters favor and another not in his favor. Both are about 2 paragraphs long.
Revolver
08-20-2004, 11:53 AM
well ive been trying to order it from brady's website for days now and it still giving me
Sorry! We are unable to process your credit card at this
time. Your credit card has not been charged. Please try again later.
maybe it cant process overseas cards bah
only other option is to wait for amazon.com to get it in.
any other UK people have luck getting hold of this?
You can try EBgames.com. They have the guide for the same price as Brady's web site.
m121akuma
08-20-2004, 02:25 PM
HSF2AE section is about 90 pages long (from Blanka to Akuma), it has a 6 page section before that explaining several basics to advanced general gameplay aspects. I found that part to be good. But the character section had for 2 pages pictures of moves, and commands for said special moves. It then has a short paragraph on each version of the character that can be choosen. To give you a rough idea why s/he was good in that version of the game or not. They give about 2 combos per version of a character, and give 2 match ups, one match up in the characters favor and another not in his favor. Both are about 2 paragraphs long.
The SF2 section also has some pretty in depth strats on each characters most useful normals and such.
I already emailed them. Hopefully they can get the rights to GGXX#r or Capcom Fighting Jam and do the same there.
Crayfish
08-20-2004, 03:09 PM
Thanks ShinjiGohan and m121Akuma, damn I want this even more now....
*InVeRs3*
08-20-2004, 04:02 PM
I'm gonna pick this up, looks like quality stuff.
Singe
08-20-2004, 04:05 PM
The guide is pretty good. I like that it explains every version of every character for Hyper SSFII. A good example is M. Bison. The best version of him is from Champion Edition. That kind of surprised me, but once I played CE I wasn't surprised anymore. Just excellent!
timekillr
08-20-2004, 05:10 PM
I just got the guide myself..
Kamui and mopreme, you have my kudos. I have yet to see such an in-depth guide.... It puts most stuff on gamefaqs to shame :)
V1ru5
08-20-2004, 05:18 PM
I just got mine and It is more than I expected. This has everything you need to know about HF and 3s. Well worth it!
Kouga
08-20-2004, 07:18 PM
I bought one... I like it.. A LOT. I am just getting into 3rd Strike and I feel this is going to help me quite a bit. I was hoping the frame data would be in more of a table, but I'm still very grateful we got it at all. I emailed Bradygames too :)
Miher
08-20-2004, 07:32 PM
Just got the guide today; it's great. Seriously packed full of useful information. I'm listening to the soundtrack as I type. :cool:
itslog1
08-20-2004, 07:34 PM
don't really need the guide, but i'll buy it to show my support and stuff.
Random123456789
08-20-2004, 08:21 PM
I just got my guide book today (GameStop's in Chicago UPS shipping is terrible!) Anyhow, this is one of the best fighters guide that I have ever read in ages! A lot of info. is in this 204 page guide. I never knew anything about the HSFII series at all(thats because I was only 5 when I started to play SFII :p )It is worth the buy.
jmilla2k4
08-20-2004, 09:10 PM
just got mine from ebgames ..its awesome ...i wish there was more 3rd strike artwork though or more artwork all together but ya its a great guide :D
The Dark Evil
08-20-2004, 09:32 PM
To the people asking about the Xbox version:
I BELIEVE thats its been confirmed that the Xbox version will be near arcade perfect.
fireballtrap
08-21-2004, 02:36 AM
no mention of Dhalsims traps
Not true. I know it's not in the Dhalsim section, but i know i read about the Dhalsim throw trap. I think it might be in the beginning section, possibly around the paragraph about tick throws.
And for that matter, the Bison lockdown "combo" was listed in the same place, not with his character breakdown.
Mixup
08-21-2004, 02:37 AM
i might buy this just for support, i'll e-mail those bitches too :)
ShinjiGohan
08-21-2004, 05:51 AM
Not true. I know it's not in the Dhalsim section, but i know i read about the Dhalsim throw trap. I think it might be in the beginning section, possibly around the paragraph about tick throws.
And for that matter, the Bison lockdown "combo" was listed in the same place, not with his character breakdown.
Bisons was put in the earlier section the one where I said that they had lots of good info. And that was just a pure sentence, like me writing a combo transcript. Reading it alone is not enough. I can write some combo for SFEX3, but you not seeing the timing of some of the moves will make you wonder how its done and why you can't do this and this after that when according to the lockdown script it should be able to be done. And at intermediatary, you'd think its random, or if you're lucky you're realize how its done.
I didn't recall seeing the Dhalsim trap, but if its there its even more hidden than Bisons. And felt that it really should have been with the character section itself, or at best both sections so someone wanting to find that could just look at the character section to find it, and put it in the beginning so it can help explain some of the words and tactics used in SF2.
With that, I just looked through that front section and still did not see any Dhalsim set ups or traps. From his slide into the yoga noogie, to his corner meaty yoga flame into throw if blocked or another meaty yoga flame if the first one hits. Granted the overall premise is pretty simple, but thats just one example of several more defined traps and throw strageties that weren't in the guide.
Robyrt
08-21-2004, 06:32 AM
Sent feedback to BradyGames. This guide positively blew me away. If I could make a living doing this kind of stuff, it would be perfect.
Battosai
08-21-2004, 09:33 AM
And for that matter, the Bison lockdown "combo" was listed in the same place, not with his character breakdown.
That doesn't matter because Sirlin was no CE player so the Bison lockdown that he wrote is very shity and is incorrect/noneffective.
Ryu1999
08-21-2004, 09:41 AM
There's some minor spelling/grammar errors, but thats ok. The only thing is that I didn't see Ken's kara-throw information in the 3rd strike section. It may be because he doesn't have one (doubtful), but at least they listed "none" for the characters don't have it. Ken's name didn't even show up in the list, unless my eyes are failing me
Ponta-kun
08-21-2004, 11:59 AM
Also omitted was Akuma's target combo (close strong -> fierce).
But despite the few small errors, this is easily the best fighting game guide I've ever seen. Good job guys. Adam, Mark, I'll be expecting you two to sign mine in the Makoto section. =p
You guys better stock up! You can't even find the legendary SFA2 guide on ebay anymore and when it does show up, it sells for like 40 bucks.
LiquiTed
08-21-2004, 01:58 PM
Picked mine up yeterday...best Guide Brady ever thought of creating .
Not better than the Varsus Books SFA2 guide
I would have liked to see MORE Character Vs Character Specific match breakdowns (like how VS Books had) as well as screen shot move by move in the combo section )
You're right...I noticed last night that ken's Kara throw was missing
GREAT GUIDE...nothing but praises in my letter to Brady but it's funny how as good as this guide is,the Japanese Box set has a 300+ page mook AND a 2hr DVD all just for 3S
Singe
08-21-2004, 02:40 PM
I'm not surprised that the Japanese have a huge book for the game. I saw a book about the same size one time that was for a soccer video game. Talk about a culture that loves their games.
VManOfMana
08-21-2004, 02:51 PM
The 3S box has a compilation of two mooks that were published years ago.
N-Ken
08-21-2004, 02:55 PM
Does anyone have a tracklisting for the soundtrack?
Kouga
08-21-2004, 03:23 PM
Um, it's
1 Intro Song
2 Character Select
3 Before the battle thingy
4 Chun-li stage
5 Ken/Alex stage
6 Remy stage
7 Makoto stage
8 Ryu stage
9 Twelve/Necro stage
10 Sean/Oro stage
11 Bonus game
12 Elena stage
13 Ibuki stage
14 Akuma stage
15 Hugo stage
16 Yun/Yang stage
17 Dudley stage
18 Q stage
19 Bonus Game 2
20 Urien stage
22 Gill fight
23 After Battle
26 Here comes a challenger
28 Game Over
33 Sound effects from the game
The rest I don't know
Ouroborus
08-21-2004, 03:43 PM
easily the best street fighter guide by bradygames.
For you people who has purchased it already, is it as good as the OG Alpha 2 strategy guide? Better?
popo187
08-21-2004, 03:59 PM
kamui & mopes have my children.. i emailed them also, very much thanks to them and everyone who worked on this guide, i wanna buy a few of them zxz
This guide is great. As good as the SFA2 guide I got ages ago.
Only bad part about the soundtrack is that it's missing the last four songs of the Japanese OST. Other than that, it's allllll good.
Crimson Fury
08-21-2004, 04:49 PM
snip
The names of the rest are:
21.Gill Appears!
24.Stage Select & Score Ranking
27.Continue
29.Final Results
30.Ending 1
31.Ending 2
32.Staff Roll
Space Lion
08-21-2004, 06:40 PM
I just wanted to commend everyone who worked on the guide. It's very nice, even with the incomplete OST. :D The full versions of the rap songs aren't there, but that's probably due to licensing problems. A group/artist named INFINITE handled the raps while Capcom (Hideki Okugawa) provided the backing tracks.
This is the kind of guide I can recommend to new players. There's a ton of useful information in it, and most of it is depicted with in-game graphics to help them understand what's going on (which is something you can't get from downloading a text FAQ).
Great stuff.
Rioting Soul
08-21-2004, 10:25 PM
I want this damn book.
Nick T.
08-21-2004, 10:28 PM
Thanks goes to all who helped on the guide.
I plan on picking it up tomorrow now that I got feedback on it.
HellMUT
08-21-2004, 10:55 PM
i'll probably just try picking this up before i buy the game for xbox
The Dark Evil
08-22-2004, 02:18 AM
Good luck trying to find it by then...Xbox version is coming out January at earliest.
snk dude
08-22-2004, 09:52 AM
Why the fuck can't I log in as Battosai. Why hell did you do that, just because I corrected you Omni.
OneInchPunch
08-22-2004, 10:02 AM
o shit, a guide that isn't lame faq quality? i must get this!
CYBORG COP
08-22-2004, 04:45 PM
Hmm, there isn't much info on the 3S juggle system. I still don't really know how it works. The SF2 section did this pretty well.
Neo_Slasher
08-22-2004, 05:45 PM
Hmm, there isn't much info on the 3S juggle system. I still don't really know how it works. The SF2 section did this pretty well.yes i was troubled bout that... i've seen crazy juggles (urien for example) and don't know how you can do like 6 hit solo and like 12 hits with the all powerful mirror of hell lol! :D also i went directly to makoto strategy and didn't see any info on the post hayate mix-up and wake up mix-ups i've heard so much about ( i've olny played like 12 matches of 3rd strike in my life so i don't know much bout the game just what i've randomly read when i'm bored or hear ppl talk about) but nonetheless the guide is way too exelent compared to other guides from bradygames like CvS2? they said a-groove sucked and ppl played it olny for the style value...
great job you guys general info and frame data is sweet :D
_MJ_#R
08-22-2004, 06:13 PM
Does anyone have a tracklisting for the soundtrack?
it's just the regular OST isn't it?
ordered my guide on amazon.com . Released on the 27th. Can't wait!
Random123456789
08-22-2004, 06:20 PM
I have the guide, and I was wondering in Yun's section, what is hop kick???(P.200, under "COMBOS YOU NEED TO KNOW")Is it the Senpuu Kyuku ( :r: + :mk: ) or close :mk: ??? Also, there is a typo in Ibuki's Special Normal's ( :l: + :mp: a.k.a You Men) unless they mean the upper hand when close to the character, which can be worked when you do back and MP. But the picture shows it differently. I think they mean the one with the :r: + :hp: and you then hit heavy punch for an additional hit (backhand fist) Also, what is the HP after a HP connects for Ibuki's Special Normal??? Unless they mean to what I just described about the :r: + :hp: ??? Anyhow, I just want to know really what is a hop kick for Yun, because I want to master the Genei-Jin combos. Please correct me if I'm wrong in any area. :D
Thank you...
Mickey D'
08-22-2004, 06:39 PM
Thank you all for those who have contributed how GREAT the guide was....you've have inspired me to get the guide! Here i was thinking "How freickin' lame...this guys are talkin bout a strategey guide for a danm FIGHTING GAME! Who would do that!?" But then I read on...and I realize that this guide is actually pretty sweet so thank you for making this thread! :D
dakkonmc
08-22-2004, 06:42 PM
If you buy AC with the guide you get 30% off the guide at EB
*InVeRs3*
08-22-2004, 06:45 PM
I love this guide. Only problem was the pushy employees at Gamestop wanting me to reserve AC.
Mickey D'
08-22-2004, 06:48 PM
What is AC?
i have to add this sentance to be 20 characters
V1ru5
08-22-2004, 06:53 PM
What is AC?
i have to add this sentance to be 20 characters
AC= Air Conditioner
AC= Awesome Clown
AC= Accelerating Current
AC= Anniversary Collection
ashurax
08-22-2004, 07:03 PM
just wondering if this is only worth getting if u plan on getting AC. i only have a DC (no ps2 or xbox) and thus want to know if the info in there is only useful for AC or if it can be applied to the DC versions of 3S and ST.
BruceLB
08-22-2004, 07:08 PM
I love this guide. Only problem was the pushy employees at Gamestop wanting me to reserve AC.
They didn't have it at my local GameStop, so I went to EB. Didn't make a differance, the clerk kept giving my shit about how the game isn't out yet, and that I should wait so I could get both and get 10% of the strategy guide. I was like "Listen clerk, I know you don't give a shit about me saving money, and the only reason you want me to wait is so you can meet your fucking quota of selling an accessory with a game. So just ring up my god damn strategy guide"
By the way the guide rocks, I emailed Brady telling them that.
Dear Brady
This guide Rocks.
Sincelry,
Bruce
Beast of Fire
08-22-2004, 08:10 PM
I like my local EB. All I had to do was put 5 bucks down on the game and I got 20% off the guide. Cool peoples. :D
And yes, the guide is awesome.
ULTRAMAN
08-22-2004, 09:39 PM
After hearing how awesome this guide is, i quickly went out to EB today. I couldnt find it at first so went to ask the guy and he said there was only 1 copy left :eek: so i went back to search for it again and there it was! I was so happy... :D The only thing that was sorta annoying was the guy who kept on asking if i wanted to preorder the game>_> like u get discounts blah blah blah and i ended up preordering it... :p
popo187
08-23-2004, 12:37 AM
i got mine!!!! *hugz book*
ShinjiGohan
08-23-2004, 11:43 AM
After hearing how awesome this guide is, i quickly went out to EB today. I couldnt find it at first so went to ask the guy and he said there was only 1 copy left :eek: so i went back to search for it again and there it was! I was so happy... :D The only thing that was sorta annoying was the guy who kept on asking if i wanted to preorder the game>_> like u get discounts blah blah blah and i ended up preordering it... :p
lmao the same thing happened to me. But I didn't preorder, since heh I already had an imported copy of both games so I had no need to preorder.
N-Ken
08-23-2004, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the tracklisting people, but I must say this is like the shittiest SQ on any CD I've ever heard. It's like they used a $3 voice recorder that supports 8 kbps mono to record the arcade music or something... :lame:
Emphy
08-23-2004, 12:27 PM
In the 3S section, the comboable indicators (CS, SC, SA) are confusing because the indicators are reversed for akuma and alex, because the idea of alex's roundhouse comboing into itself is just unbelievable.
BruceLB
08-23-2004, 01:18 PM
In the 3S section, the comboable indicators (CS, SC, SA) are confusing because the indicators are reversed for akuma and alex, because the idea of alex's roundhouse comboing into itself is just unbelievable.
Yeah, I first noticed that when the guide told me that Akuma's jab couldn’t chain into itself, but that his jumping rh could.....
Dios <-X->
08-23-2004, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the tracklisting people, but I must say this is like the shittiest SQ on any CD I've ever heard. It's like they used a $3 voice recorder that supports 8 kbps mono to record the arcade music or something... :lame:
seriously, i love the guide, but the sound quality of the ost is pure crap, sounds muffled and horrible.
The Dark Evil
08-23-2004, 05:41 PM
I picked up the last copy today,I love it.Its a little scratched on the front and the cover is pretty fucked up,but the inside is fine.The dumbass Eb guys also kept trying to make me preorder it,I clearly said no and they still asked me like 5 times.On top of that,the guy took like a minute just to ring it up cause they were talking to each other about how preordering games save so much(like I care).
Like some others mentioned before,the only thing I see bad about it is that the sound quality for the soundtrack blows chunks,and there are a couple mistakes in the book.A bigger art gallery would have been nice also.
kenmastersX
08-23-2004, 06:48 PM
just wondering if this is only worth getting if u plan on getting AC. i only have a DC (no ps2 or xbox) and thus want to know if the info in there is only useful for AC or if it can be applied to the DC versions of 3S and ST.
I think it was stated that the DC version had different frame data compared to the arcade/PS2 version. Otherwise, it should be good for strategies and such minus the unblockables and stuff.
Kyoujin
08-23-2004, 07:06 PM
I just bought it tonight from the bookstore I work at. The soundtrack is great, my only complaint is that it does not have the third version of the stage music. The Book is great, I am definitly gonna crack of 3S and SSFT2X again. There is also lots of art from all the games, which is a definite plus.
SmoothCat
08-23-2004, 07:59 PM
the guide is great. 3rd strike frame data is really good. But i really like how they did the og sf section
f_man
08-23-2004, 10:52 PM
just got it, been playing 3s for a year already. its pretty useful if anyone wants to delve into characters theyve never touched, but only skims the surface in terms of how to play them. at least something like this will bring the new generation of comp at a higher level faster than before.
what wouldve been really cool is if they tacked on encyclopedia vids from mopreme on the ost disc.
cant ask for everything, i suppose thats what the strat section of srk is for.
rsigley
08-24-2004, 07:07 AM
I was wondering how did you guys get the frame data for 3S? Did you figure it out for yourselves? If yes, how do you do that I always wondered. If no, where'd it come from? (wondering how accurate it is) and did you get permission to post it if it wasn't yours, cause isn't that plagerism?
Wow. A good strategy guide from BRADY? That's a first.
I guess I'll pick one up, then.
ULTRAMAN
08-24-2004, 10:23 AM
[QUOTE=The Dark Evil]I picked up the last copy today,I love it.Its a little scratched on the front and the cover is pretty fucked up,but the inside is fine.The dumbass Eb guys also kept trying to make me preorder it,I clearly said no and they still asked me like 5 times.On top of that,the guy took like a minute just to ring it up cause they were talking to each other about how preordering games save so much(like I care).
Heh, how fucked up is ur cover? o_O Mines has some sratches at the corner and thats it and how does the soundtrack suck like everybody is talking about? I think its ok >_> By the way, i love the cover :D
kofiend
08-24-2004, 10:56 AM
i got mine today, i m very satisfied with my purchase.
isn t selling more SF shit good?:confused:
The Dark Evil
08-24-2004, 11:34 AM
Heh, how fucked up is ur cover? o_O Mines has some sratches at the corner and thats it and how does the soundtrack suck like everybody is talking about? I think its ok >_> By the way, i love the cover :D
Mine is scratched on the lower left quarter of the front.And there are parts that are ripped a bit and bent(but just a little).But its ok,since all the inside pages are perfectly fine.And the soundtrack isn't horrible,but you can definitely tell that the sound quality isn't as good as it should be.
UrIeNaToR
08-24-2004, 11:48 AM
mine has a cum stain on it.
Dash no Chris
08-25-2004, 11:26 AM
it's just the regular OST isn't it?
Ran out to EB on my lunch hour yesterday and picked up a copy of the guide. The CD is packed in a little cardstock sleeve (attached to the spine of the book, just before the back cover) with a little clear-vinyl window exposing the printed side of the CD. They've attempted to make the printed side of the CD look as similar as possible to the Japanese original, right down to the Japanese serial number (CPCA-1028). Minor differences are:
> the monochrome illustration of the game's cast is printed in a lighter selection of greys than on the Japanese CD, which produces some differences in the amount of detail which can be seen on certain characters
> the Japanese CD is silver right up to the spindle-hole, with the cast illustration (and the logo graphic) being printed right up to the spindle-hole as well. the U.S. version is more like a standard CD, with a 1cm border of clear plastic around the spindle-hole. because of this, less of the cast illustration is visible on the U.S. CD (since the image is not printed on the central clear plastic area, there's "a bigger bit taken out of the pic" than with that incurred by the spindle-hole alone on the Japanese original)
> because of the smaller printing area (again, due to the clear plastic border around the spindle-hole), the game's logo graphic had to be reduced in size before being printed on the U.S. CD
> the copyright date on the Japanese original was 1999 -- on the U.S. CD it's 1999-2004
> the Japanese CD was marked "made in Japan" -- the U.S. CD naturally says "made in USA"
As far as content goes, the U.S. CD does not appear to contain the bonus CD-Single tracks (the bonus CD-Single was included only in first pressings of the original Japanese release of the OST). The U.S. CD has the same track count and running time as the Japanese CD. I was only able to listen to half the U.S. CD before leaving for work this morning, but I imagine that the above statement will hold up when I get home and have the chance to finish listening to the disc. Gonna have to cut back & forth between both discs to compare the sound quality of each.
--Chris
MoxManiac
08-25-2004, 05:30 PM
Kamui and I authored the 3rd Strike strategy guide section. We pushed very hard for them to include all of the frame data and allow us to devote many many pages to actual strategy and tactics, and not just have a 200 page move lists with pretty pictures.
This guide has frame data for every move, something that was only available in Japanese guides in the past. The frame data is the arcade/ps2 frame data, unlike the Japanese guide which uses the DC data which is different.
If you think things like many pages devoted to strategy, advanced tactics and setups, and frame data, and all that good stuff is useful, valuable information and really helpful, then please tell Brady Games. Email them and tell them that all of this stuff was awesome and you expect this type of information in their future guides. In Japan, this stuff is expected. But over here, players haven't demanded this type of treatment in their strategy guides. So please email Brady Games and tell them which things in this guide you really liked (like frame data, in depth analysis of characters, moves, strategy, etc). Let them know that you expect this level of detail and coverage in all of their future guides. Brady will listen to YOU more than anyone else, because you guys are the ones buying the guide.
If you want to help set a trend for all future strategy guides to focus on what should be in them, actual strategy and useful information like frame data, then please email Brady and tell them how much this guide helped you, how much you liked it, and that you expect this type of information in all their future guides. If you think it's awesome, let them know. Also, if you think there are things that can be inproved, let them know! And of course buy the guide if you think it is good. It's worth it just for the 3s soundtrack.
You can email Brady Games at: feedback@bradygames.com
I hope everyone likes the guide. We all worked hard on it trying to give you guys something special, and I think it came out pretty decent. There's tons of art in it as well. Thanks.
This sounds awesome. Kudos, i'm picking up the guide tommorrow, definitely.
I do have a question though, by frame info, do you mean how many ticks each frame of animation lasts? Or do you mean collision boxes? If this info is accurate, it will be very useful for me as I am converting a SF3 character to MUGEN.
Ultima
08-25-2004, 06:04 PM
By any chance, does this guide have the name of the normal attacks of every character like the SFA2 Vs. guide does? I doubt it, but I'm hoping...
shinobidj
08-25-2004, 06:12 PM
i bought one, its tight!! support!!
Dark Shoto
08-25-2004, 06:15 PM
got my guide yesterday and its really good,
im getting the xbox game and its killin me cus i wanna play really bad now!
SiLLiEMutAfuKA
08-25-2004, 07:39 PM
I got the Guide yesterday, and I must say that this 20 dollars was definetly well spent. This guide has so much great stuff in it, amazing. Great great guide.
grandabx
08-26-2004, 09:53 AM
The Brady guide's ok. I just wish it had more character vs character talk. How many of you cats have the Streetfighter Alpha 2 guide by versusbooks? That guide is crazy(at least 7 pages for each character). It's the reason why I play A2 very well. It has a Japanese feel to it.
Dash no Chris
08-26-2004, 05:40 PM
By any chance, does this guide have the name of the normal attacks of every character like the SFA2 Vs. guide does? I doubt it, but I'm hoping...
For the most part, no. 99% of the normal punches and kicks are referred to as "standing HK," etc. Once in a great while, the guide may refer to one particular normal punch or kick by its specific name, but this is very rare. The guide does try to give the names for throws in the SFIII section, but usually refers to them as "throw" and "air throw" in the SFII section. In general, those who put together the SFIII section at least attempted to utilize most of the original move names for throws, specials, and supers (although errors do crop up here and there, and I think their romanization system leaves much to be desired). The authors of the SFII section, however, only really attempt to utilize original names for specials and supers when the names are in English to begin with (Sonic Boom, Rolling Crystal Flash, etc.). Characters with names in Japanese were far less fortunate. While widely-known names (like Hadouken, Shouryuuken, and Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku) are listed by their original names, characters like Chun-Li and E. Honda had most of their move names abandoned in favor of made-up English names (Foot Stomp, Sumo Smash, etc.). And, while the guide does abandon the unofficial names "Flash Kick" and "Scissor Kick" in favor of the official "Somersault Kick" and "Knee Press," other long-used unofficial names managed to make their way into the guide -- "Max Out," "Double Dread Kick," and "Storm Hammer" (instead of "Air Slasher," "Double Rolling Sobat," and "Mexican Typhoon"), for example.
--Chris
BruceLB
08-26-2004, 06:33 PM
All of the special normals in the guide have names. The key term there being "special". Standing HK doesn’t have a name because it's a fucking standing HK. But every special normal attack has their name listed.
_MJ_#R
08-26-2004, 06:50 PM
any good SFA3 strat books?
ReggieHadoken
08-26-2004, 07:08 PM
So the guide is out even though the game isn't? Heh, cool. I may pick it up. I've never played SF3S so I'll need all the help I can get.
Mr Mort
08-26-2004, 08:36 PM
any good SFA3 strat books?
Brady Games put out a SFA3 strat book, but it sucks ass. Not even close to the SFA2 "Bible". Any of the Versus strat guides are very good though. I've got the Night Warriors, Jedah's Damnation, and SF3: New Generation guides, and they're very well put together and offer some genuinely useful strategies and combos.
Rioting Soul
08-26-2004, 11:48 PM
This'll be my first real chance to play SF3 seriously. Thanks to Rock Bogart i got mine recently.
Space Lion
08-27-2004, 06:42 AM
As far as content goes, the U.S. CD does not appear to contain the bonus CD-Single tracks (the bonus CD-Single was included only in first pressings of the original Japanese release of the OST). The U.S. CD has the same track count and running time as the Japanese CD. I was only able to listen to half the U.S. CD before leaving for work this morning, but I imagine that the above statement will hold up when I get home and have the chance to finish listening to the disc. Gonna have to cut back & forth between both discs to compare the sound quality of each.
Please post the results of that sound quality test when you get a chance. I had the Japanese OST and got rid of it. But I wanna say that disc had much better sound quality. I'm not 100% sure about that, though.
A few years ago, a similar 3rd Strike soundtrack was released in the USA by Mars Colony (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000516SP/qid=1093612610/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl15/002-9501232-1344004?v=glance&s=music&n=507846). I wonder if the disc included with the guide is a direct copy of that one (with all of the sound effects put together as one track)? CPCA-1028 is printed on the disc, and that's the same number as the Japanese OST. So, it doesn't make sense for Capcom/Suleputer to use that catalog number again if it's a somewhat different soundtrack. Or maybe it does make sense?
Dash no Chris
08-27-2004, 09:17 AM
All of the special normals in the guide have names. The key term there being "special". Standing HK doesn’t have a name because it's a fucking standing HK. But every special normal attack has their name listed.
Unfortunately, not all the listed names of the "special normals" are correct (for example, Blanka's "Rock Crush" got renamed "Headbutt" by the Brady guidebook). With all due respect, Standing HK doesn't have a name in the Brady guidebook because the authors couldn't be bothered to translate the names of all the normal punches and kicks. Speaking as an owner of pretty much every Japanese guidebook ever published for the SFII, SFZ, and SFIII series, I can assure you that every single normal punch and kick has its own name.
--Chris
Captain Ryu
08-27-2004, 09:38 AM
Unfortunately, not all the listed names of the "special normals" are correct (for example, Blanka's "Rock Crush" got renamed "Headbutt" by the Brady guidebook). With all due respect, Standing HK doesn't have a name in the Brady guidebook because the authors couldn't be bothered to translate the names of all the normal punches and kicks. Speaking as an owner of pretty much every Japanese guidebook ever published for the SFII, SFZ, and SFIII series, I can assure you that every single normal punch and kick has its own name.
--Chris
Who cares about dumb shit like that? This guide is really good. Its got frame data and even goes in depth with kara canceling and shit.
Anaxamander
08-27-2004, 09:57 AM
You can email Brady Games at: feedback@bradygames.com
Done. :tup:
metrock1
08-27-2004, 10:04 AM
I was sceptical about buying this guide but after reading this thread I had to buy it.And to my surprise it is very good, very detailed. This guide hes all the greatness of SRK.COM with out all the 100 bullshit posts every time some one asks a question or you do a forum search on what ever topic. :clap:
I am definatley going to get this thing laminated so I can keep this book looking good. Thanks to every one who put this together.
Dash no Chris
08-27-2004, 01:10 PM
Who cares about dumb shit like that? This guide is really good. Its got frame data and even goes in depth with kara canceling and shit.
Apparently you don't care, but I happen to find technique names to be an interesting aspect of Japanese-produced fighting games. And if this is anything to go by:
By any chance, does this guide have the name of the normal attacks of every character like the SFA2 Vs. guide does? I doubt it, but I'm hoping...
there's at least one other person here who cares. So, to answer your question, I know of at least 2 people who care about "dumb shit like that." It's possible there might be a few more among the folks who've kept this thread:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173
going for over 200 pages.
I never said (nor did I mean to imply) that the guide wasn't "really good." Certainly, I've learned at least a few new things (and been reminded of some I'd forgotten) in the course of flipping through the book. From the sound of the other comments in this thread, there's a lot of good gameplay info to be had within Brady's latest effort. All I did was to answer another poster's question and take the opportunity to express my disappointment that the book was (in the matter of technique names) less complete than it could have been. Perhaps I'm less concerned about the inclusion of frame data since my Japanese guidebook collection gives me all the info I could ever need on that subject, but that doesn't mean I'm anything less than happy for owners of this new guide who otherwise wouldn't have easy access to this information. But at the same time, I have to say that it's disappointing to see that another aspect of Street Fighter that's also almost never available to the English-speaking gamer -- regardless of whether it garners more or less interest than frame data -- got left out.
--Chris
Famicom
08-27-2004, 01:35 PM
I might buy the guide later on. I did reserve my game, so next Wednesday (on EB's calendar) I'll be ready!
Big up to Mike "Masaka" Creque for making it to the credits in the back of the book.
One question about the game itself though, will it work with my PS1 ASCII joystick?
Captain Ryu
08-27-2004, 02:01 PM
Apparently you don't care, but I happen to find technique names to be an interesting aspect of Japanese-produced fighting games. And if this is anything to go by:
there's at least one other person here who cares. So, to answer your question, I know of at least 2 people who care about "dumb shit like that." It's possible there might be a few more among the folks who've kept this thread:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173
going for over 200 pages.
I never said (nor did I mean to imply) that the guide wasn't "really good." Certainly, I've learned at least a few new things (and been reminded of some I'd forgotten) in the course of flipping through the book. From the sound of the other comments in this thread, there's a lot of good gameplay info to be had within Brady's latest effort. All I did was to answer another poster's question and take the opportunity to express my disappointment that the book was (in the matter of technique names) less complete than it could have been. Perhaps I'm less concerned about the inclusion of frame data since my Japanese guidebook collection gives me all the info I could ever need on that subject, but that doesn't mean I'm anything less than happy for owners of this new guide who otherwise wouldn't have easy access to this information. But at the same time, I have to say that it's disappointing to see that another aspect of Street Fighter that's also almost never available to the English-speaking gamer -- regardless of whether it garners more or less interest than frame data -- got left out.
--Chris
I got nothing against that man. Im just saying it doesnt make the strategy guide (strategy wise) any better imo.
Anaxamander
08-29-2004, 01:35 PM
I don't mean to be negative, but I do have some complaints. In a lot of ways I love the guide, but in some ways it's a bit puzzling. For instance, the layout is kind of strange--not nearly as tight as the Alpha 2 Bible. In the HSF section, for each fighter it first gives a chart of the WW, CE, and HF normal attacks, then a section comparing all versions of the character plus a good and bad matchup, then the last section is the NC and ST normals. Why are the character differences stuck between the two sections of normals? Also, why do the WW, CE, and HF normals read from left to right, and the NC and ST normals read from top to bottom?
In Ken's section in HSF, they seem to have left out two of his kicks: :r: :df: :d: + K and :hcf: + K.
They leave out Dhalsim's new jumping Jab & Strong in ST.
I would have liked to see tier charts for HSF.
Despite the HSF section lacking somewhat, I think the 3rd Strike section makes up for it. Overall, I'm glad I bought it.
rocketJAM
08-29-2004, 02:54 PM
Getting this today or maybe tomorrow, HEK YA!!!!
Yeah The SFA3 Guide Was Fucking ASS. Anyway Anyone Know Where I Can Get The SFA2 Guide?
NeREMIXED
08-30-2004, 02:50 AM
So the guide is out even though the game isn't? Heh, cool.
i think thats how it works with most games
nameingway
09-01-2004, 08:52 PM
ok so why can't i chose the start+button outfits in third strike? that's really annoying me and i dunno why it's not working... help?
kenmastersX
09-01-2004, 09:08 PM
ok so why can't i chose the start+button outfits in third strike? that's really annoying me and i dunno why it's not working... help?
You're supposed to beat the game with that character to earn those colors. If you haven't done that, it's probably why.
nameingway
09-01-2004, 09:20 PM
eh of course. thanks for the info tho.
Mowbs
06-18-2006, 03:11 PM
Alright, I've been playing SF2 since I was like 10 years old and I still play it like a beginner. I want to get good at HSF2 and SF3, so this guide sounds like the answer. Do you think EB and Game Stop still carry this guide?
Also, kind of off topic, can anyone fill me in on some good guides for these games?
-SFA Anthology
-MvC2
-CvS2
The only system I have is PS2. Thanks for your help!
ytwojay
06-18-2006, 03:17 PM
The only system I have is PS2. Thanks for your help!
Don't bother playing mvc2 on PS2. Go get a Dreamcast :)
aznflict
06-18-2006, 03:17 PM
Alright, I've been playing SF2 since I was like 10 years old and I still play it like a beginner. I want to get good at HSF2 and SF3, so this guide sounds like the answer. Do you think EB and Game Stop still carry this guide?
Also, kind of off topic, can anyone fill me in on some good guides for these games?
-SFA Anthology
-MvC2
-CvS2
The only system I have is PS2. Thanks for your help!
EB and Gamestop will not have this guide on hand. Your best bet is an online auction or online gaming store. Also, for 3S, Thongboy Bebop has an excellent tutorial on combovideos.com.
SFA Anthology official guide by BradyGames is INCREDIBLE.
MvC2... not sure, but i'm thinking the Prima guide is just a glorified movelist. also, MvC2 on PS2 is sorta lame. SRK info/match vids are better.
CvS2 guide that was released in USA is lame. Just a glorified movelist with retarded combos. SRK info/match vids are better.
kenmastersX
06-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Alright, I've been playing SF2 since I was like 10 years old and I still play it like a beginner. I want to get good at HSF2 and SF3, so this guide sounds like the answer. Do you think EB and Game Stop still carry this guide?
Also, kind of off topic, can anyone fill me in on some good guides for these games?
-SFA Anthology
-MvC2
-CvS2
The only system I have is PS2. Thanks for your help!
You "MIGHT" get a copy at a local gamestore, but the guide's been out for ages now, so they're hard to find. Best bet is to find the guide online through book sites like amazon.com, I think? I forget where to look.
There are no decent strategy guides for MvC2 and CvS2, you'll have to find the data on this site, through forum topics or the wiki on the front page. Make sure you check the specific strategy sections for stuff like that.
There are also videos you should take reference from also, searching the forums are pretty easy, and some people would be happy to help you out.
FallingEdge
06-18-2006, 03:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0744003946/sr=1-7/qid=1150669413/ref=sr_1_7/104-0554141-1695155?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books
Enjoy :tup:
Mowbs
06-18-2006, 03:32 PM
Don't bother playing mvc2 on PS2. Go get a Dreamcast :)
Out of curiousity, what's better about the DC version?
Either way, there is no way in hell I'm getting a DC...haha.
Mowbs
06-18-2006, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the help everyone. If the Guides for SFAC and SFAA are as good as you say, I'll pick them up.
I guess I'll have to search the net for startegies on the Vs games.
Rakukojin
06-18-2006, 04:18 PM
Out of curiousity, what's better about the DC version?
Either way, there is no way in hell I'm getting a DC...haha.
The DC version is arcade perfect while the PS2 version has some noticable differences like slowdowns, lag on assists, smaller sprites, missing frames, no invincibility for certain moves, removal of glitches, etc.
the T1AN
06-18-2006, 07:38 PM
Out of curiousity, what's better about the DC version?
Either way, there is no way in hell I'm getting a DC...haha.
Why not ? it's an excellent system and it's pretty cheap now.
Mowbs
06-18-2006, 07:50 PM
Why not ? it's an excellent system and it's pretty cheap now.
I had one before. I actually got it for free. I traded it in. There aren't too many good games for it. Getting another video game system just isn't necessary for me right now.
Dr. Deelite
06-18-2006, 08:13 PM
If you actually care about MvC2 it's worth getting a DC. You can find them for hilariously cheap on Ebay. I've been through four or five DCs personally (thanks, Ascii greenstick + P360 combo) and I'll always need one just because I love MvC2. DC MvC2 isn't arcade perfect but the differences are really minor and don't effect important characters. PS2 MvC2 has sound effects like they re-recorded the entire game from the bottom of a barrel, and it has all sorts of graphical glitches and lag and whatnot. Either version will cost you basically full price on Ebay because both games are out of print since Capcom is smart and can't make Marvel games anymore.
MvC2 alone justifies holding onto a DC for me, but there were a few other good titles on it like Shenmue, Bang-ai-O, Seaman (weird...weird), and Jet Set Radio.
Mowbs
06-19-2006, 01:23 AM
I hear ya...but take my word for it...I don't play enough video games to warrant the purchase of a new system, regardless of how cheap it is. Also, I don't know enough about MvC2 to notice, or give a shit, if I don't have the best version of it.
DaDesiCanadian
06-19-2006, 05:16 AM
I hear ya...but take my word for it...I don't play enough video games to warrant the purchase of a new system, regardless of how cheap it is. Also, I don't know enough about MvC2 to notice, or give a shit, if I don't have the best version of it.
Yeah exactly. If you're just a beginner, who wants to learn the game engine and random combos, ps2 version is fine.
jae hoon
06-19-2006, 08:41 AM
Yeah exactly. If you're just a beginner, who wants to learn the game engine and random combos, ps2 version is fine.
Except you will pay as much for the PS2 version of MvC2 as you will for a DC.
Mowbs
06-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Picked up the alpha anthology guide. I'm looking over it now.
They no longer carry the SFAC guide, as expected. But I can get it for cheap on the net.
holler mcdollar
06-19-2006, 02:18 PM
I traded it in. There aren't too many good games for it.
:rolleyes: you sure you aren't confusing dc with jaguar..? there are a ton of great games for dreamcast.
DaLastDon25
06-19-2006, 03:45 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0744003946/sr=1-7/qid=1150669413/ref=sr_1_7/104-0554141-1695155?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books
Enjoy :tup:
Thanks, brother. I picked up the SFAC and the SFAA for 13 bucks a piece.
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