Daigo vs. Ratio1Beatdown

[DeAdSpAcE]

Roger are you reading this shit? Picked an odd time to revisit that place. :o

http://gamecombos.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=250945#post250945

[Ex-S]

WTF??? Ok, first of all, at the last evo (2k3) Roger came in 9th, so obviously he's not some scrub who Daigo "should have beat easily".... It's sad enough that this person is such a fanboy, but I draw the line when they start disrespecting a GOOD player. From what I heard from Roger, it was a solid match.... To say that Daigo choked.... TWICE.... well how often does that happen? Yes, the Japanese are good, but they're not lightyears ahead of NA anymore.

[Zakuta]

Not like it's the first time Daigo has lost in CvS2. lol...

[popoblo]

roger beat daigo. end of discussion. all these fanboys need to take their japanese hero's off their pedestals and realize they're just players.

PS- i talked about this match in my evo log if you want to know more details. and i was RIGHT there with one of the best views you could have.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69732

[DeAdSpAcE]

I believe that same fanboy posts here on srk. Not surprised that he'd attempt to state such a matter in such a fashion on gcc, a place of mostly fanboys who'd get away with saying shit like that.

[Serpent]

Honestly, I don't know why this is a big deal. Why are you angry that someone says Daigo was supposed to win? Roger is a solid player, but Daigo has a better tournament record and is easily the better player. How is Roger winning an upset if he's the better player? The reason why its an upset is because Daigo was 'supposed to' win. In betting terms, Daigo was favored to win. If Roger was the one favored to win, or expected to win, and Daigo beat him, then everyone would have said Roger was supposed to win too. It just looks like someone is friends with ratio1beatdown and is getting agitated over something that isn't a big deal. Daigo was 'supposed' to beat that French pad player, and Eddie Lee too, but he didn't. I'd still think Daigo is better than them though. I don't care about Daigo, but he's definitely one of the top SF players in the world. Roger definitely outsmarted Daigo though, and obviously deserved the win he got. It's still considered an upset though.

If Daigo and Roger player a best of 10, I'd bet on Daigo taking the series, 7-3 or 6-4 at least.

[FMJaguar]

It's just about communication. Saying R1 pulled an upset is true, saying that he wasn't picked to win is true.

Saying that daigo 'lost to someone he shouldnt have', or anything to take away from this accomplishment is inconsiderate IMO. It's kinda crazy, people barely mention what eddie and R1 do, but everytime one of us lose it ends up all over the net :(.

The problem with what you posted is that it's being a sore loser. Why should anyone go to a tournament, if any upset they make is going to be met with 'well you still aren't good!'. I don't see how daigo having more wins overall factors into the equation, or why it's nessecary to be mentioned.

[MAGUS1234]

diago is a better player..fact, roger was the better player in that situation though.If he woulda beat roger I think he coulda taken top 3..I meen who did roger lose to, kid lee right?

[Jeffzorz]

a player from cen cal, and eric lee

[Hoonyo]

a player from cen cal, and eric leeto be more specific, a player from fresno whose name is also lee and eric lee.

[DreamTR]

I hate to say this , but it was console. Daigo lost to a French player at Absolution, and lost to Eddie Lee and Roger Williams here. If this was the arcade, then yes, we would have gotten whooped like every other EVL. Please remember that the two are completely different, and that the Japanese have totally mopped us is the arcade tournaments to this day.

[stream3]

when daigo lost to R1 beatdown and eddie lee, was it best of 3 or best of 1???

anyways daigo is by no means automatic in cvs2 like his other games. He's still damn good tho. Definitely one of the most fun to watch when he rushes...

daigo is really a "charisma player" as the japs call him, people really are inspired by how he plays (then bite his shit and test it out at the arcade). So no wonder he has some fanboys on his ass.

[FMJaguar]

I hate to say this , but it was console. Daigo lost to a French player at Absolution, and lost to Eddie Lee and Roger Williams here. If this was the arcade, then yes, we would have gotten whooped like every other EVL. Please remember that the two are completely different, and that the Japanese have totally mopped us is the arcade tournaments to this day.

Quite possible, although i would put something on eddie and daigo 1 game arcade CvS2 still. I think we have done really well when our players take away all their fancy options and just play for control. Ever since the first us/japan i haven't seen evidence to the contrary, people that get their playstyle from them get killed for obvious reasons, doesn't mean it's the only way to play tho.

Regardless, I don't know how many good US arcade CvS2 tournies we will see. So a console record mightaswell be the official one as far as CvS2 goes =P.

[Mixup]

I hate to say this , but it was console. Daigo lost to a French player at Absolution, and lost to Eddie Lee and Roger Williams here. If this was the arcade, then yes, we would have gotten whooped like every other EVL. Please remember that the two are completely different, and that the Japanese have totally mopped us is the arcade tournaments to this day.


omfg

you're kidding right?

completely different?

[$|-|U(V)AYeL]

The point is.. Roger won.

[Zakuta]

...Japs don't play on console remember. =p

[$|-|U(V)AYeL]

Japs have been playing 2394878374 years. Roger has been playing for 2/3? Doesn't matter about console.. They were both on MAS no?

[Zakuta]

LOL, that's even worse! =D

[Ex-S]

Japs have been playing 2394878374 years. Roger has been playing for 2/3? Doesn't matter about console.. They were both on MAS no?

Naw, Roger had his stick, and Daigo had his own.

[HoneyBBQGrundle]

Daigo's better. MUCH better as in he will win at least 80% of the time. But of course there's that 20% where he won't win. I beat Ricky Ortiz once before in casual.....he's still a lot better than me though

[DeAdSpAcE]

Can someone enlighten me on the whole console and arcade difference for cvs2? I can understand for marvel...I've seen a lot of fuck ups on console for obvious shit.

[cheese_master]

Speed difference is the only one for DC. It kinda matters for doing links for some people. A 2 frame link is hard enough to get automatically everytime, but then add a slightly different speed... it makes it more of a pain in the ass. Also other stuff like hitting people out of rolls and stuff can be affected. Some people get affected, some don't. The fact of the matter is, Evo was said to be on console a while ago. The outcome of the match came out as it did, whatever the circumstances that lead to it, doesn't matter, in the end, Daigo lost.

As far as discrediting a win goes, you can't discredit a win in a tournament unless there was some blatant bullshit. People can make their own assessments on who the better player was. But we know the Smarter player that day was Roger. And thats what mattered.

[opticallyinviz]

Who cares if some guy beat daigo?

did either of them win the tournament??

yeah exactly

[Ex-S]

Who cares if some guy beat daigo?

did either of them win the tournament??

yeah exactly

You missed the whole point. :rolleyes: This isn't a discussion about who won evo, or EVEN who's the better player. It's about accepting a win as a win instead of making excuses for the Japanese. Roger could have EASILY made an excuse for losing his other matches because his joystick broke after his match with Daigo, but he doesn't. The issue is someone who WASN'T EVEN THERE made a comment about Daigo losing to "someone he shouldn't have". It WAS an upset, and Daigo is probably the better player in general, but on that day he got outplayed. It's not like some random scrub beating Daigo in a casual; this was in a REAL tournament setting and the people who actually witnessed the match can tell you that it was a CLEAN win. If in the olympics, an athlete upsets another one, you don't say the favorite one "lost to someone he shouldn't have".... you have to give the guy who won his due respect.

[caliagent#3]

Yeah you can't give daigo any excuses. Both of them knew it was gonna be console. All they had to do was prepare. Roger just outplayed him, simple as that. If daigo missed links etc., that's his fault for not preparing. i think we all agree that daigo is the better player, but he wasn't on that day

[opticallyinviz]

alright, i dont see roger or daigo here so why are you people arguing for them?

who cares what everyone thinks...fuck...you people are really taking this stuff way too seriously...it's a video game

[LiSyaoran3063]

Its funny how this thread has changed to a weather or not he should or shouldn't of won.
You know I argee with this guy in the first place. So meny people are taking this to seriously.
Next, I never said Roger sucked cause hes a fucken awesome player.
But like I said before, If it was a "best out of 7/9/11/13" Daigo would of won. So meny other people agree with me its not funny.
I'm not a fucken Fan boy, he's just better! and thats that.]
And if you read further on in the thread I POSTED on GCC, then you'll see half of the shit I said was just to piss off that queer Koutetsu...

Anyway

[LB]

haha, i like how people say if daigo fought ratio1 they'd go 7-3 or 6-4.

HAAHAHAHH

give daigo his jap cab, give ratio1 what the fuck ever he runsaway best on, and i assure you it'll be at least 9-1.

bet money?

[mirage]

haha, i like how people say if daigo fought ratio1 they'd go 7-3 or 6-4.

HAAHAHAHH

give daigo his jap cab, give ratio1 what the fuck ever he runsaway best on, and i assure you it'll be at least 9-1.

bet money?

sure, ill bet you money that it wont be at least 9-1

but WHO THE FUCK cares cuz it's all hypothetical and the 10 matches wont happen anyway

people like you are worse than theory fighters

talk about ish that has happened, not hypothetical BS

did you even see the match? have you played both of them?

you sound like the whiny fucks saying "gee USA woulda beat Lithuania if Shaq was there...if mcgrady didn't pussy out"...blah blah blah woulda coulda shoulda.

fact is USA lost when it mattered and so did daigo.

[KrassHole]

Fuck I thought there was gonna be a vid.

And instead its a bunch of people talking shit who have no clue.

[lifetimeboy]

The facts are basically that console sucks and that couldn't be helped. I saw the match and It was so close.

Roger is just a really cool guy, we spoke a little during and after the finals and he basically just ran away from diago. I guess thats what eddie lee did too. No doubt that Diago is an amazing player, but so is Roger. I have alot of respect for Roger, that guy knows how to party:):):):) and we had fun chillin' at evo together, untill next time.........

LTB

[DeAdSpAcE]

Its funny how this thread has changed to a weather or not he should or shouldn't of won.
You know I argee with this guy in the first place. So meny people are taking this to seriously.
Next, I never said Roger sucked cause hes a fucken awesome player.
But like I said before, If it was a "best out of 7/9/11/13" Daigo would of won. So meny other people agree with me its not funny.
I'm not a fucken Fan boy, he's just better! and thats that.]
And if you read further on in the thread I POSTED on GCC, then you'll see half of the shit I said was just to piss off that queer Koutetsu...

Anyway

I don't care what you and that dude on gcc have going on but I seriously agree that it's not cool to say something like "he lost to some guy that he shouldn't have." That's just disrespect right there man. The dude won the match fair and square and you have no right to say shit like that when you yourself didn't make the trip to see the fight. Daigo's a damn good player without a doubt...but that day he proved that even the people of the top can't win them all and in life there's always going to be others who can find a way to take you down.

It's gay to see that people these days go hectic about a good player losing to another...like serpent said...the whole "upset" concept. It's retarded as fuck cuz pretty much people believe in "player invincibility" to the point where they think it's a matter of destiny and fate. Haha, ok. People these days just lose grip on reality over these things...forgetting that these top players are also human beings and shit happens. Whatever happened to giving more of a fuck on how you yourself perform rather than someone else?

Anyways, bottom line is that roger won and daigo lost. If you don't like that then deal with it til next year when maybe things will turn around. Don't think too much about it though....even fanboys have to find something else to do in their spare time.

[LB]

have you played both of them?

i have.

have you?

now shut the fuck up stupid fuck.

i didn't say SHIT about "oh, daigo shouldn't have lost" "oh it doesn't count cause it was on console" "wtf daigo fucksuck" "wtf ratio1 fucksuck"

no, i said shit about how people gave ratio1 too much credit for beating daigo one match on console. 6-4? haha, get the fuck out.

i like how people gave Evil the same amount of credit for being daigo one match on console (WOW SOUNDS FAMILIAR!). oh wait, they didn't.

good fucking job. learn english first.

[2jabs]

Daigo is better then Roger, pure and simple.
Yes, Roger won, but put there asses on a machine, hahahaha. I need not say more.

[FMJaguar]

Daigo is better then Roger, pure and simple.
Yes, Roger won, but put there asses on a machine, hahahaha. I need not say more.

Better in what? theoretical SF championships? Whats first prize in that?... last time i checked.. score is Daigo 0, R1 1 . Think what you want, R1+Eddie > Daigo until evo2k5 and/or sbo.

[stream3]

Better in what? theoretical SF championships? Whats first prize in that?... last time i checked.. score is Daigo 0, R1 1 . Think what you want, R1+Eddie > Daigo until evo2k5 and/or sbo.

calm down FMJ. These are just fanboys talking.

daigo has a better tourney record than roger, that's all. 2nd in SBO1, 2nd in EVO last year.

plus the 1-0 lifetime record doesn't mean shit and u know it. You can't even be serious throwing that out there. Shit I am 1-0 vs Ino in casual 3s, i know that doesn't mean shit.

[omni]

Daigo loses to A Groove turtles. Which should be an indication to everyone that since Daigo can't even beat turtles, that this game sucks.

Derek

[DeAdSpAcE]

3s>>>>>>cvs2, pure and simple.

Unfortunately there's much more drama in that scene than in cvs2. Seriously people...it's just getting retarded...

But then again I wouldn't be surprised if this is just an american thing cuz I doubt japan takes shit this seriously.

[Zakuta]

LMAO Lee n' R1 > Daigo.

In that case, Evil > Daigo till the next Euro tournament. If there isn't one however, Evil >>>>>>>>>>>>> Daigo because he'll never play him again. He can go home every day knowing he >> Daigo for the rest of his life.

I'm not even making excusees for Mr. Umehara, but c'mon now! 0-1?

*pours water over FMJaguars head*

xD

[LB]

Daigo loses to A Groove turtles. Which should be an indication to everyone that since Daigo can't even beat turtles, that this game sucks.

Derek

rc's fucking suck.

omni: i love you. i miss you. i want you.

[DeAdSpAcE]

Yo limp hook me up with the full pic of that av of your's. :p

[Bacardi]

If in the olympics, an athlete upsets another one, you don't say the favorite one "lost to someone he shouldn't have".... you have to give the guy who won his due respect.


Puerto Rico vs USA

Lithuania vs USA

[LB]

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[KrassHole]

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At least now this thread served some minor purpose. :)

[Pat the Great]

lb is the truth.

screw you 20 char limit.

[yes4me]

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[Uoykcufi]

Why the hell is there so many Daigo cock sucker here
Do you guys worship him as god, damn, get a life

Bottom line: Roger > Daigo = STFU cock sucka