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Time_Stop
09-15-2004, 07:06 PM
The list is for most profitable stand-up machines (so, games like Initial D, with unique machines, have their own listing - you can see them in their websites).

The list comes from the biggest arcade magazines in Japan:

Arcadia Magazine:

http://www.arcadiamagazine.com

1: Virtua Fighter 4 Final Tuned
2: THE KING OF FIGHTERS NEOWAVE
3: GUILTY GEAR XX # RELOAD THE MIDNIGHT CARNIVAL
4: THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2003
5: Movement soldier Z Gundam
6: WORLD SOCCER Winning Eleven Arcade Game Style 2003
7: POWER Smash 2
8: THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2002
9: SNK VS. CAPCOM SVC CHAOS
10: VIRTUA STRIKER 2002

Amusement Journal:

http://www.am-j.co.jp

1: Movement soldier Z Gundam
2: Virtua Fighter 4
3: GUILTY GEAR XX # RELOAD THE MIDNIGHT CARNIVAL
4: THE KING OF FIGHTERS NEOWAVE
5: THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2003

XTG
09-15-2004, 08:19 PM
wow, Chaos is holdin up nicely...surpried yet somehow impressed

booda
09-15-2004, 08:24 PM
Shameless SNK propaganda?

Seriously, just play the games if you like them. It's amazing that SNK arcade games manage to be popular at all when it seems most SNK fans spend more time and effort into promoting SNK games than they do actuaully playing them.

ryu-bi
09-15-2004, 08:47 PM
Movement soldier Z Gundam

The best translation ever...where do you get this?

Time_Stop
09-15-2004, 09:06 PM
I got it in the sites linked.

And i play KOF every weekend, thank you very much. I donīt have a MVS in my house or work, so explain to me how am i supposed to be playing it even now? Hmm? Plus... if we had three VFs or SFs listed there instead of KOFs you wouldnīt say it was propaganda.

P.S: I am a part of every local KOF tourney (last one was KOF 2002, in July). So... yeah, youīre talking out of your ass, booda.

EVERDRED
09-15-2004, 09:07 PM
and? your point?

a japanese list of there most profitable games reflects there society, this is the United States of America we have a very different culture so games like those might be great and all cus we know how much u like kof. but in the states arcades have never been as big as they r in japan so games like soul calibur/tekken, mvc2, and street fighter r actually the big names here since our society isnt as heavily soiled in the gaming culture that japan has.

mvc2 is probably the most profitable cabinet in the states right now.

and the fact svc is on that list sure says one thing about that culture... whatever shit snk craps out they'll play. is this true? i dont think so but svc is surely a poor, poor game here.

Time_Stop
09-15-2004, 09:15 PM
and? your point?

a japanese list of there most profitable games reflects there society, this is the United States of America we have a very different culture so games like those might be great and all cus we know how much u like kof. but in the states arcades have never been as big as they r in japan so games like soul calibur/tekken, mvc2, and street fighter r actually the big names here since our society isnt as heavily soiled in the gaming culture that japan has.

mvc2 is probably the most profitable cabinet in the states right now.

and the fact svc is on that list sure says one thing about that culture... whatever shit snk craps out they'll play. is this true? i dont think so but svc is surely a poor, poor game here.

1. You do realize the thread is named "Most Popular Arcade Games in Japan"? THAT is the point. Itīs a listing so people that are curious can find out what the most popular arcade games in Japan are.

2. You do realize that YOU clicked in this thread?

3. You do realize that you said "probably" in the MVC2 comment, and that i would say "and? your point?" to that?

booda
09-15-2004, 09:20 PM
Plus... if we had three VFs or SFs listed there instead of KOFs you wouldnīt say it was propaganda.
Perhaps, but I'd still be wondering what your point is.

Talking out of my ass, eh? Hm, let's re-examine my statement:
It's amazing that SNK arcade games manage to be popular at all when it seems most SNK fans spend more time and effort into promoting SNK games than they do actuaully playing them.
Odd, nowhere do I say you. In fact, I took into account that not all SNK fans are this way by saying it seems and most SNK fans.

And EVERDRED's right, the difference in what the Japanese play is the result of a difference in culture. That's nice that they like VF4 and KOF:MI, but it doesn't say anything about the U.S. (note: SRK is a U.S.-based website). What it appears you are implying is that since Japan plays those games, they are better, and therefore everyone should play them.

Time_Stop
09-15-2004, 09:22 PM
What it appears you are implying is that since Japan plays those games, they are better, and therefore everyone should play them.

Odd, nowhere do I say that.

Hoonyo
09-15-2004, 09:23 PM
haha oh my god svc chaos. japan gets both thumbs down :tdown: :tdown:

edit: and how does popular translate to profitable?

Time_Stop
09-15-2004, 09:29 PM
And EVERDRED's right, the difference in what the Japanese play is the result of a difference in culture. That's nice that they like VF4 and KOF:MI, but it doesn't say anything about the U.S. (note: SRK is a U.S.-based website).

And? Your point?

Not only the thread title clearly states that this is about Japan (not the US), but also... Some people in SRK do care about whatīs happening in Japan.

I see a lot of people here caring not only about the games being released in Japan, but also match videos from Japan and Buktoothīs Japan log. A log where he mentions the games being played in japanese arcades (one of the most popular topics discussed in that log). If you donīt care about any of those things, then by all means, donīt click on the thread named "Most Popular Arcade Games in Japan".

Saotome Kaneda
09-15-2004, 09:46 PM
SvC is played in a casual sense because if you play to win(against others), then you're using those broken things in the game to your advantage. Which turns into no further competition, and no further fun. I've seen shitloads of Earthquakes, Hugos, Kims(myself included), Dans, Kyos, WAY too many Ioris and Terrys, a few Shiki's here and there, and the occasional Shoto(Gouki more than the other 2.5). It's not ALL bad

Defective
09-15-2004, 10:59 PM
I hope folks aren't judging SNK's worldwide fanbase with that of the US one. SNK has been pumping out games for years. Why wouldn't players actually be playing the games? How do you think SNK lasted this long?

ThE CRoW
09-15-2004, 11:04 PM
damn... even there not much virtual on players..

HZ!
09-15-2004, 11:10 PM
Odd, nowhere do I say that.

he didnt say u said that .. he said u IMPLYED it .. not said ...

SNK did ok till then went belly up and got saved by playmore.

EVERDRED
09-15-2004, 11:16 PM
by posting what japan likes u r implying that if japan likes this and that then it must be "THE BEST" (saying your on the winning and smarter side while most of us here are not). the fact u have all that kof stuff/snk titles on that list makes it easy to see what u r implying.

and yes i clicked on this thread, i wanted to see what the hub bub was about. it seems u like starting snk vs capcom wars. i can see the upcoming battle on the horizon coming soon.

Neo DX90
09-15-2004, 11:26 PM
Heh, my goodness, are you all so self-concious that posting a list of Japan's top Arcade games is an attack on your tastes?

Lists like this aren't uncommon, so what's the big deal. I think of it as more of a way to compare the tastes between different areas. "Hmm... they play a lot of SNK games. SVC Chaos? Go figure..." lol.

To infer that the list is an attack on our tastes is just silly. Get over your insecurities already.

Deddjay
09-15-2004, 11:32 PM
eh to me this is just an interest thread. People want to see what the nihon-jin's are playing. There's no point is claiming that something is there to "big up" certain companies. Unless someone here actually lives in japan or has solid information to argue against this list you might as well take it as gospel.

NeREMIXED
09-16-2004, 12:04 AM
edit: and how does popular translate to profitable?

are you meaning the other way around? if it is the other way around, it's pretty common sense how profitable = popular.

Bugeyed_Earl
09-16-2004, 12:25 AM
Note that some of the listed games are pretty old, and most likely they are placed at an aracade at around 50~100 yen price. Games such as World Soccer and Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (Not "movement soldier" mind you.), although they are both kind of old, have a large shelf space and expensive board so they may run anywhere from 50 yen to 200 yen, VF4 FT being pretty new and most likely won't be running at anything below 100yen price.

Now with that being said, even if an old and popular game have a same fan base as 100yen or even 200yen games, their profit won't be nearly as high as the newer, high profit games due to their cheap pricing. (Arcades in Japan do lower prices on older games and games that take up less cabinet space.)

blackadde
09-16-2004, 12:28 AM
Didn't you run away from HerV after trying to bring this shit up in the KOF Neowave thread?

Hoonyo
09-16-2004, 12:32 AM
are you meaning the other way around? if it is the other way around, it's pretty common sense how profitable = popular.i was thinking how the thread title was most popular and the lists say most profitable. :encore:

so it's obviously which games are the most popular for a profit.

GalzPanic
09-16-2004, 12:51 AM
vf is pretty dope and you should play it no matter what the jcrew thinks.

FusionITR
09-16-2004, 01:19 AM
Why in the hell is VF4 in there? God I hate button mash 3D games.

Neo DX90
09-16-2004, 01:35 AM
Lol!

Try to mash in VF4 against someone who knows what they're doing...

I dare you.

Other 3D (and many 2D games) button mashing can get you so far...
Pick Kage, Akira, Wolf, etc. and try button mashing... :tdown:

FusionITR
09-16-2004, 01:41 AM
Lol!

Try to mash in VF4 against someone who knows what they're doing...

I dare you.

Other 3D (and many 2D games) button mashing can get you so far...
Pick Kage, Akira, Wolf, etc. and try button mashing... :tdown:

All 3D fighting games are button mash, period, end of story. Any n00b or scrub can pick anyone in a 3D fighting game (especially soul calibur :rolleyes: ) and button mash their way into a victory.

Try that with any sf or vs game, you will lose everytime.

Kataklysmic
09-16-2004, 01:47 AM
by posting what japan likes u r implying that if japan likes this and that then it must be "THE BEST" (saying your on the winning and smarter side while most of us here are not).

AND if you don't have access to, or the abilitiy to read, Arcadia, and make one slip up as to the status of things in Japan, you get bombarded with statistics taken from the mag and accused of being a fanboy that's distorting the facts.

:lame:

kane_warhead
09-16-2004, 03:17 AM
All 3D fighting games are button mash, period, end of story. Any n00b or scrub can pick anyone in a 3D fighting game (especially soul calibur :rolleyes: ) and button mash their way into a victory.

Try that with any sf or vs game, you will lose everytime.


You're totally clueless to what you're talking about.


Anyway, didn't buktooth said that most KOF2003 cabs were switched back to KOF2k2 and most SVC cabs were removed.

FusionITR
09-16-2004, 03:36 AM
You're totally clueless to what you're talking about.

:confused:

kane_warhead
09-16-2004, 04:51 AM
Then win the Evo 2k5 Virtua Fighter tourney with your l33t button mashing skills. Virtua Fighter 4: Final Tuned is the deepest fighter now, you can't mash your way to victory against someone who knows how to play the game.

Azrael
09-16-2004, 04:53 AM
9: SNK VS. CAPCOM SVC CHAOS

...How?

I don't even see SvC setups anymore. I'd have an easier time finding Isuka.

bloodriot
09-16-2004, 04:53 AM
Love that kof2002 :rock: svc is some bad shit, hate it

Time_Stop
09-16-2004, 05:19 AM
Heh, my goodness, are you all so self-concious that posting a list of Japan's top Arcade games is an attack on your tastes?

Lists like this aren't uncommon, so what's the big deal. I think of it as more of a way to compare the tastes between different areas. "Hmm... they play a lot of SNK games. SVC Chaos? Go figure..." lol.

To infer that the list is an attack on our tastes is just silly. Get over your insecurities already.

Pretty much. I guess a list is scary or offensive to them. "Insecure" doesnīt even start to cover it.

And if we listed the most popular arcade games in the US, would we even have fighting games in the top 10? Is there a big arcade scene in the US? Arenīt tourneys console now?

chicken
09-16-2004, 08:53 AM
Why in the hell is VF4 in there? God I hate button mash 3D games.You are an idiot and need to die.

Superking
09-16-2004, 09:00 AM
Is there a big arcade scene in the US? Arenīt tourneys console now?


Nah, only this year's Evolution and a few others are, those tourneys only move over to console because of cost and convenience. Which aren't bad reasons at all, for example in Evolution's case, why continue using a small number of NAOMI boards for MvC2 when you can just have multiple DCs running the game fine. (edit: I know of the MvC2 DC problems Evo2k4 had, so people, don't bother replying about that lol)

More participants involved = the greater the tourney = more competition = healthier for the scene.

SC2, Tekken 4, TTT, VF4EVO and the Guilty Gear games are played on console is for many reasons:

For SC2, T4 and TTT, the console port is perfered because it's pretty much of an inconvenience (and cost issue) to get System 246 boards and System 12 boards just to play said games, it's easier for tournament organizers just to have them on PS2. In SC2 and TTT's case, the console port has become the standard since Namco's improved on them (unlike Capcom or SNKP with most of their ports :lol: ) and most players of either game are fine with them. The same reasons also apply to VF4EVO and the GGXX series, I doubt there's many NAOMI2 boards out there in the US, so having a lot of VF4EVO arcade units in such a big tourney like EVO is probably out of the question and Sammy never localized arcade distribution for the GGXX games in the US, so that's another reason for that game, which is why most arcade operators have to order the Japanese versions of XX/XX#R R/B.


And it's not good for you to generalize the North American arcade community, Evolution was just ONE tourney out of many and most tourneys still are arcade based.



By the way, it's AEUG Vs Titans - Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, not Movement Soldier Z Gundam. :lol:

Also that successful game series is by Capcom, so take that Capcom haters. :clap:

Zazzarius
09-16-2004, 09:01 AM
And if we listed the most popular arcade games in the US, would we even have fighting games in the top 10? i doubt if there even are 10 stand-up cabinet games in the US at all . . . ain't it all special set-ups now? DDR and Driving Games and the like.

(i exaggerate of course, but i doubt i'm that far from the truth)

forgenjuro
09-16-2004, 09:42 AM
All 3D fighting games are button mash, period, end of story. Any n00b or scrub can pick anyone in a 3D fighting game (especially soul calibur :rolleyes: ) and button mash their way into a victory.

why dont you actally try out your little strategy before you say it works? obviously you never played anyone good before. what kind of ignorant idiot cant see the skill involved when theres plenty of tourny footage for almost all 3D games :confused:. your stance is lacking evidence, go and win the whole EVO tourny for all the 3D games next year then champ.

FusionITR
09-16-2004, 12:37 PM
I'm not sure if I can win the tourny, but im sure I can get quite far by mashing a few buttons with mitsurugi in SC2.

Superking
09-16-2004, 01:22 PM
I'm not sure if I can win the tourny, but im sure I can get quite far by mashing a few buttons with mitsurugi in SC2.



Maybe if you play against your kid sister, then sure you can!

:rolleyes:

Saotome Kaneda
09-16-2004, 04:27 PM
...How?

I don't even see SvC setups anymore. I'd have an easier time finding Isuka.

I've found 2 more SvC machines than Isuka setups, which = 2-0 here in Okinawa. I also saw several SvC setups in Ikebukuro, Tokyo(Sega GIGO for one), still being played.

It IS true, however, that a great deal(NOT all) of 2k3 cabs were switched back to 2k2, or replaced altogether.

Pick Kage, Akira, Wolf, etc. and try button mashing...

Almost. Kage's a PPPn char, you can mash with him. You won't see a whole lot, but you can. The only char you can have a semblance of looking good with while mashing is Lei-Fei, and his mashed moves get stepped so easily.

I'm not sure if I can win the tourny, but im sure I can get quite far by mashing a few buttons with mitsurugi in SC2.

Mashing with Mitsurugi gets you GI XX Death. Try it. Hell, play me with a masher Mitsu, I'll PT you all fucking day. You'll probably say now that GI is cheap. Go on, I'm waiting.

Neo DX90
09-16-2004, 05:55 PM
I whole-hearted agree with you (well at least the parts I can agree with, since I don't live in Japan and can't comment on the arcade stuff :smile: )

specs
09-17-2004, 01:10 PM
*sigh*

I'm sure y'all see just WHAT this thread is, right?

platinum_pinoy
09-17-2004, 03:07 PM
and? your point?

a japanese list of there most profitable games reflects there society, this is the United States of America we have a very different culture so games like those might be great and all cus we know how much u like kof. but in the states arcades have never been as big as they r in japan so games like soul calibur/tekken, mvc2, and street fighter r actually the big names here since our society isnt as heavily soiled in the gaming culture that japan has.

mvc2 is probably the most profitable cabinet in the states right now.

and the fact svc is on that list sure says one thing about that culture... whatever shit snk craps out they'll play. is this true? i dont think so but svc is surely a poor, poor game here.

I am not sure if I am quoting the right post, but it seems logical in what I about to say.

There is probably an indifference on what the fuck really matters is popular in Japan as opposed to the United States. They have different interests in what games we play, therefore popularity over there isn't the same over here.

But the thing is that what is popular in Japan will dictate if the game is going to come out everywhere else. Like, what happened with Capcom All Stars. That game was beta tested in Japan but never came out to the States probably because Japan didn't enjoy it. So, it is within our best interests as to what is popular in Japan because they are the one who make the games we like. If not, then all we would be stuck with is Mortal Kombat, Killer Instinct, and War Gods (noooooo...).

In that regard, looking at what is popular there right now, we can expect to see imports or sequels to whatever game has high rotation over here in the United States.

Kinniku
09-18-2004, 09:06 AM
BTW, Movement Soldier is a literal translation of Kidou Senshi.

yes4me
09-18-2004, 11:42 AM
5: Movement soldier Z Gundam
6: WORLD SOCCER Winning Eleven Arcade Game Style 2003
7: POWER Smash 2
8: THE KING OF FIGHTERS 2002
9: SNK VS. CAPCOM SVC CHAOS
10: VIRTUA STRIKER 2002



Somehow I must be going blind: I don't see Soul Calibur 2, any Tekken, CVS2, SF3, and MvC2. Besides 8 and 9, I don't even know what these games look like!!

Would that mean that all the jap players we get in evolution are playing just one time a year CVS2, SF3, MvC2???

XCT
09-18-2004, 11:53 AM
Somehow I must be going blind: I don't see Soul Calibur 2, any Tekken, CVS2, SF3, and MvC2. Besides 8 and 9, I don't even know what these games look like!!

Would that mean that all the jap players we get in evolution are playing just one time a year CVS2, SF3, MvC2???

not every person that goes to the arcade plays fighting games

EVERDRED
09-18-2004, 12:51 PM
Somehow I must be going blind: I don't see Soul Calibur 2, any Tekken, CVS2, SF3, and MvC2. Besides 8 and 9, I don't even know what these games look like!!

Would that mean that all the jap players we get in evolution are playing just one time a year CVS2, SF3, MvC2???

i think the cvs2 and sf3 gaming scene is still way larger than the us scene. arcades are so vast in japan that they have room to push games we play hardcore out of the top 10.

i guess since they have more choice on what to play fighting games wouldnt be the prominent arcade genre that u find here in the states.