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gbursine
02-24-2005, 03:00 AM
rofl... next game i play, ima tell the person "ggs, now go get stuffed"
Luckychrono777
02-24-2005, 03:01 AM
oh, do i feel like a fucking moron
:rofl: .........ggs man :bgrin:
Soldier Zero
02-24-2005, 08:27 AM
I know it means go get stuffed, and yes, i know it's an insult, but what i'm asking is if its some kind of new custom.
OMG! :rofl:
gbursine
02-26-2005, 12:02 AM
t-kimura... jesus fucking christ. I'll aknowledge this.. you're probably 500x better than I or majority of the pple on kallera.
wholley shit though.. you do a great job of embodying everything that pple think of srk pple
biggest fucking head ever. rude as fuck if you suck(and I do so fuck you). you're doing a hella good job of killing the community :tdown:
Plutoburn
02-26-2005, 12:24 AM
oldtimer confirmed to use autofire.
16hit shinryuken, i got suspicious, next time I play him, I go to the input testing in config ask him to hold mk, it was flashing faster than anything I've seen.
And your chance of finding really good players on kaillera who are actually modest is lower than finding a big foot.
Karasu
02-26-2005, 12:53 AM
t-kimura... jesus fucking christ. I'll aknowledge this.. you're probably 500x better than I or majority of the pple on kallera.
wholley shit though.. you do a great job of embodying everything that pple think of srk pple
biggest fucking head ever. rude as fuck if you suck(and I do so fuck you). you're doing a hella good job of killing the community :tdown:
He even said himself...he wants the drama, and wants everyone to be at each other's throat. He's a Sadist.
oldtimer confirmed to use autofire.
16hit shinryuken, i got suspicious, next time I play him, I go to the input testing in config ask him to hold mk, it was flashing faster than anything I've seen.
And your chance of finding really good players on kaillera who are actually modest is lower than finding a big foot.
No way...I was told he was one of the very respected KoF2k2 keyboard players...
Jeeebus!
02-26-2005, 09:44 AM
Well that sucks, I thought oldtimer was pretty good :(.
In that case, BAD GAMES TO HIM!
And agreed on the T-Kimura thing, though I find it more funny than something to get pissed off about. Kimura beasting on the kaillera scrubs is amusing to watch while waiting for someone to join a game.
domino-
02-26-2005, 12:33 PM
Kimura beasting on the kaillera scrubs is amusing to watch while waiting for someone to join a game.
heh yep, it happens quite often too hehe
oldtimer confirmed to use autofire.
16hit shinryuken, i got suspicious, next time I play him, I go to the input testing in config ask him to hold mk, it was flashing faster than anything I've seen.
Aw, that's sad. oldtimer is one of the few who can actually play Samurai Shodown 2 well, and I've been playing him often on that game for a couple years now.
But I did finally get to play him in SFA3 and it was very suspcious, but didn't want to say anything. Autofire isn't obvious like tell-tale Shinryukens in SamSho2. But now that I look back, he was able to combo in SS2 very consistently, and somewhat fancy too for a game that isn't too combo-heavy to begin with, whereas best I could do was 2-hit jump AB, crouch AB combos, and even those didn't come out like 50% of the time.
Too bad...
DeusFNL
02-26-2005, 09:03 PM
I don't know if Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo counts (hey, I like it), but i was playing this one obnoxious asshole named Keegan The Fox, who kept on saying after winning that i stink (whoa now thems fightin words!). WHen i interjected to tell him that only scrubs trashtalk like that constantly, he told me that only scrubs win. Needless to say i tried to tell him that i play for fun, not to win. This concept, far beyond the redneck's grasp of understanding, seemed to bewilder him to the point of calling me a "black ******," (although i dont approve of racism, im not black to begin with), reapetedly, and shortly after, he abrubtly exited. No wonder the scene is dying, with assholes like him around.
Luckychrono777
02-27-2005, 02:37 PM
I don't know if Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo counts (hey, I like it), but i was playing this one obnoxious asshole named Keegan The Fox, who kept on saying after winning that i stink (whoa now thems fightin words!). WHen i interjected to tell him that only scrubs trashtalk like that constantly, he told me that only scrubs win. Needless to say i tried to tell him that i play for fun, not to win. This concept, far beyond the redneck's grasp of understanding, seemed to bewilder him to the point of calling me a "black ******," (although i dont approve of racism, im not black to begin with), reapetedly, and shortly after, he abrubtly exited. No wonder the scene is dying, with assholes like him around.
uh....if you don't play to win.....you are a scrub...
DeusFNL
02-27-2005, 05:29 PM
I dont know if thats the exact definiton of a scrub, seeing as how i've not been a fan of the scene for too long. I do know that ive heard many times that scrubs 1. DO trashtalk...constantly and that 2. they use cheap tactics that lessen the overall enjoyment of the game. Whether or not u consider me a scrub based on the fact that I play first and foremost for fun (yeah winning is fun, but for me, its not the sole point of playing), well, i guess you are entitled to your opinion. But if winning is the sole reason u play these games, then i suggest u reconsider your approach.
I dont know if thats the exact definiton of a scrub, seeing as how i've not been a fan of the scene for too long. I do know that ive heard many times that scrubs 1. DO trashtalk...constantly and that 2. they use cheap tactics that lessen the overall enjoyment of the game. Whether or not u consider me a scrub based on the fact that I play first and foremost for fun (yeah winning is fun, but for me, its not the sole point of playing), well, i guess you are entitled to your opinion. But if winning is the sole reason u play these games, then i suggest u reconsider your approach.
*sigh* No...scrubs don't use cheap tactics that lessen the enjoyment of the game. In fact, they are the ones that complain because the pros are the ones that use those "cheap tactics". But yes, the definition of a scrub is not someone who does not want to win.
DeusFNL
02-27-2005, 09:44 PM
Yes, Emil, your right, my mistake. I admit that it is 'scrubby' to complain about how a person is playing just because they took the time and effort to hone their skills, even if that includes infinites. I'm happy to see that there are plenty who play 2D fighting games because they sincerely enjoy them, win or no win.
gbursine
02-28-2005, 02:32 AM
^ it is scrubby. there are pple who play for fun, and there are pple who play to compete(to win)... it just so happens, that for some pple winning=fun, so playing to win=fun.
Its like joining a football/soccer/w/e team and going out and losing every game without ever practicing. and in the end saying... ehh its ok that we got the shit beaten outa us b/c we dont use winning tactics... we're just playing for fun... I think only the cubs'd be saying that
^ it is scrubby. there are pple who play for fun, and there are pple who play to compete(to win)... it just so happens, that for some pple winning=fun, so playing to win=fun.
Unless I'm in a tournament, I play to improve, or to discover new things, or to just be flashy. I also do play to win in casual matches, but if I have an opportunity to do a hard combo that I think would be impressive in the match, I'll take the risk and do it.
gbursine
02-28-2005, 03:02 AM
ya know, until you replied, I didnt realize.. i really didnt care.. I just hate pple saying "infinities are cheap" ... well fuck you shouldn'tve put yourself there...
DeusFNL
02-28-2005, 02:41 PM
gbursine, I stated in my post that winning IS fun. And I wasn't being sarcastic when I appologized for my error in judgement. I AGREE, infinites are not scrubby. And naturally, by playing any game, you will usually improve in it. You would have to improve to a certain level in order to get the most out of any game. Also, there are people who join sports teams and play in tournaments, and then there are those who play them ocassionally for fun, because they enjoy playing them. When i play online, im not playing a professional game where a team depends on me. Im playing for myself, with others, so that I may get to have some fun, and hopefully them as well, from a videogame that I (gasp) enjoy playing. For the record, please go ahead and define exactly what people consider a scrub to be, since ive heard mixed reports. I doubt that includes people who play 2D fighting games because they're entertaining. Im not saying a scrub is someone who plays to win. In fact, I recently attended the West Coast SBO qualifier just bc i enjoy watching a high-level match every now and then. But there has to be more of a reason to play then just to prove that you're better than everyone at that game. There has to be some real love for the game.
Deus shut up youre a scrub
ChibiPotPie
02-28-2005, 08:35 PM
Deus shut up youre a scrub
Apparently. My Felicia gave him a bad experience then he just dropped and left the game. Some fun that was.
DeusFNL
02-28-2005, 08:36 PM
I fail to see, ax0r, how im a scrub. If you don't have anything worthwile to say, why dont u just shut the fuck up. Shit no wonder the scene is dying. If youre this hostile towards anyone that wants to enjoy playing these games, then i guess youre just an asshole. And Chibi, i left bc i had some fun, and that was that. Im sorry wasnt enough of a challenge for ya. I dont play that game that often u see. Im not always in the mood for 20 match marathons. Didnt mean to get your hopes up, esp. after you set us up for freeplay. Next time, if its less than 10 rounds, ill try and keep in mind to say thanks to the person who played with me.
ChibiPotPie
02-28-2005, 08:48 PM
I fail to see, ax0r, how im a scrub. If you don't have anything worthwile to say, why dont u just shut the fuck up. Shit no wonder the scene is dying. If youre this hostile towards anyone that wants to enjoy playing these games, then i guess youre just an asshole. And Chibi, i left bc i had some fun, and that was that. Im sorry wasnt enough of a challenge for ya. I dont play that game that often u see. Im not always in the mood for 20 match marathons. Didnt mean to get your hopes up, esp. after you set us up for freeplay. Next time, if its less than 10 rounds, ill try and keep in mind to say thanks to the person who played with me.
How long you stayed is besides the point. You left because you were getting crushed, not because you had fun. Not saying you didnt have fun. I could care less how long you stayed. BTW freeplay isn't for marathon, its so I don't have to listen to that scream when you insert a coin.
I fail to see, ax0r, how im a scrub. If you don't have anything worthwile to say, why dont u just shut the fuck up. Shit no wonder the scene is dying.
..........seeing as how i've not been a fan of the scene for too long.
You don't know SHIT about the scene, so don't act like you know why its "dying". How many tournys have you won? How many tournys have you even actually PLACED in? Know who the fuck youre talking to, scrub.
I do know that ive heard many times that scrubs 1. DO trashtalk...constantly and that
EVERYBODY shit talks.. That doesn't make you a scrub. Its good fun. COMPLAINING makes you a scrub..
2. they use cheap tactics that lessen the overall enjoyment of the game.
Cheap tactics? Shut the fuck up and go play your Puzzle Fighter.
And Chibi, i left bc i had some fun, and that was that. Im sorry wasnt enough of a challenge for ya. I dont play that game that often u see. Im not always in the mood for 20 match marathons.
And this is why you wont improve, but then again I am pretty sure Chibi would have noticed by the 10th game that you have no talent and probably would of left :clap:
Whether or not u consider me a scrub based on the fact that I play first and foremost for fun (yeah winning is fun, but for me, its not the sole point of playing)
First you talk about how the scene is dying and now you say that you only play for fun.. The scene is COMPETETIVE.. Play to WIN. Go read one of my last posts with the link to Sirlins article.
well, i guess you are entitled to your opinion. But if winning is the sole reason u play these games, then i suggest u reconsider your approach.
If you don't play Street Fighter or any competetive game to win.. Then well, Find another game. I heard Kingdom Hearts is TIGHT!
When i play online, im not playing a professional game where a team depends on me. Im playing for myself, with others, so that I may get to have some fun, and hopefully them as well, from a videogame that I (gasp) enjoy playing.
Never enter a Team Tourny.. CHECK!
For the record, please go ahead and define exactly what people consider a scrub to be
Im not saying a scrub is someone who plays to win.
You just answered your own question..
In fact, I recently attended the West Coast SBO qualifier just bc i enjoy watching a high-level match every now and then.
WOW. That makes you so FUCKING cool.... BUT I bet you didn't play?
Aww..
SCRUBS don't try.
DeusFNL
02-28-2005, 09:37 PM
While some of those points are valid ax0r, nonetheless, are u implying that bc i dont play for the sheer competition, i should not even bother. ax0r, i wasn't talking about the scene, as in the competitive scene. Yeah, that is mostly what its left for, but thats bc 2D fighting are no longer popular with the masses. 2D fighting games are just that, theyre games. You can play them competively, and/or you can play them for the entertainment value (wheter or not that includes for the sake of winning, bc u like the way it plays, whatever it may be). Im not trying to show off by saying that i attended the WC Sbo qualifier, im merely implying that theres nothing wrong to play competively. While i have nothing against talking shit, there are certain lines to cross when it comes to game ettiquette. Sometimes, it can be really fucking annoying. Shit, i cant believe u ax0r. The popularity of 2D fighting games is already wanning, but as long as there are people like us who are willing to play them, they may never die. Instead of u hounding me bc i play them for fun as opposed to u who plays them for competition, u should quit bitching and just get over yourself. Yeah, im sure you are probably ten times better than me. And i dont care. U can continue playing them bc u like winning, and ill continue playing bc i like them for what they are, a great source of entertainment for me. And i didn't leave bc i was getting crushed, in fact i already apologized to chibi for my abrupt leaving. Yeah ill admit, i didnt like losing, but i left bc i got some fun out of it. Later, i returned once more to have my ass handed to me for about 20 consecutive times, but the game was still fun (for me atleast).
Try to organize your posts. That shit you just finished posting is barely readable.
DeusFNL
02-28-2005, 09:43 PM
Sorry, dont know shit about how to post in message boards, new to them. Hey but as long as it gets the point across.
Luckychrono777
02-28-2005, 10:11 PM
While some of those points are valid ax0r, nonetheless, are u implying that bc i dont play for the sheer competition, i should not even bother. ax0r, i wasn't talking about the scene, as in the competitive scene. Yeah, that is mostly what its left for, but thats bc 2D fighting are no longer popular with the masses. 2D fighting games are just that, theyre games. You can play them competively, and/or you can play them for the entertainment value (wheter or not that includes for the sake of winning, bc u like the way it plays, whatever it may be). Im not trying to show off by saying that i attended the WC Sbo qualifier, im merely implying that theres nothing wrong to play competively. While i have nothing against talking shit, there are certain lines to cross when it comes to game ettiquette. Sometimes, it can be really fucking annoying. Shit, i cant believe u ax0r. The popularity of 2D fighting games is already wanning, but as long as there are people like us who are willing to play them, they may never die. Instead of u hounding me bc i play them for fun as opposed to u who plays them for competition, u should quit bitching and just get over yourself. Yeah, im sure you are probably ten times better than me. And i dont care. U can continue playing them bc u like winning, and ill continue playing bc i like them for what they are, a great source of entertainment for me. And i didn't leave bc i was getting crushed, in fact i already apologized to chibi for my abrupt leaving. Yeah ill admit, i didnt like losing, but i left bc i got some fun out of it. Later, i returned once more to have my ass handed to me for about 20 consecutive times, but the game was still fun (for me atleast).
now you're just getting hypocritcal, you keep saying you soley play for entertainment value but yet you say you didn't enjoy losing to chibi. When Ax0r told you that we find winning and playing to win fun, you say you don't play for that reason. Then why didn't you enjoy losing to chibi?
The chances of you even getting better at the games you play are severely hindered because of your bullshit attitude.
This thread has gone to hell. :encore:
EDIT: One more thing, pretty much everyone here plays for fun and to win. So we get better and have fun while doing it, instead of losing and pretending like were having fun.
DeusFNL
02-28-2005, 11:02 PM
I never said that i dont enjoy winning. Shit, understand this: WINNING IS FUN. Yeah losing sucks. But it shouldn't deter one from playing the game and having a good time. Ill admit,i wont lie, maybe if im losing absolutely horribly, then i might not be having such a fucking good time. Obviously, those people have mastered their techniques and are far beyond my level. Theres nothing wrong with that. They are too good compared to me for me to get a lot enjoyment out of playing them. But generally, even if i lose to someone who is better, if i can stand a chance against them, i enjoy the fight. I fail to see whats wrong with my "bullshit attitude" of playing fighting games casually, as opposed to training constantly so that i could get better. Not that there's anything wrong with that.And I do try to improve. Naturally, i try to learn from my mistakes, even if i still end up repeating some of them. Of course i want to get better. But not to the point where id just be practicing nonstop. Im fine getting better little by little and having a good time playing others.
Who the hell says you have to practice non stop to be good? I learned my shit from playing, not practicing.
DeusFNL.. Just quit posting. You make yourself look worse with every single post :tdown:
DeusFNL
03-01-2005, 12:01 AM
Ax0r, thats what i meant. I didnt say thats the only way one can improve. In fact, i even stated that i plan on improving by just playing and enjoying myself. Reread my last post, thats exactly what i said, perhaps just not verbatim. And so far, ive either apologized for any misconceptions i may have had or backed myself up with fairly logical reasoning. Id suggest you stop nitpicking at my posts with a fine tooth comb and find something better to do.
Luckychrono777
03-01-2005, 12:07 AM
Ax0r, thats what i meant. I didnt say thats the only way one can improve. In fact, i even stated that i plan on improving by just playing and enjoying myself. Reread my last post, thats exactly what i said, perhaps just not verbatim. And so far, ive either apologized for any misconceptions i may have had or backed myself up with fairly logical reasoning. Id suggest you stop nitpicking at my posts with a fine tooth comb and find something better to do.
good god stop posting.....
there's hypocrisy in this post also but I don't wanna waste my time.
Kwaza
03-01-2005, 12:09 AM
Just curious, Has anyone ever given me a Bad Game post, LOL :xeye: .
gbursine
03-01-2005, 01:05 AM
well... I missed the party... :bluu:
we really dont need more than one person jumping on someones ass
-_-
NAME - KwÄza
PROGRAM - Mame, Kawaks
GAMES - Marvel Vs Capcom, Street Fighter Alpha 3, KOF - 2000,2002,2003
ehh.. no vampire, and I've only started to play a3... so no.. no bg from me... & hopefully you're not some fool tryin to start online drama
Soldier Zero
03-01-2005, 09:55 AM
gb's a beast in a3, everyone should play him.
ChibiPotPie
03-01-2005, 12:26 PM
Apology accepted DeusFNL. However, when you drop a game like that without saying anything it makes you look _____________________. Never leave a game like that if you want to make friends.
Jeeebus!
03-01-2005, 01:57 PM
I think you guys should back off Deus. It's like you're being hostile to him for no apparent reason.
Online is a whole different world from offline people, the definition of scrub does change.
Online, scrubs can choose Ken, crossover jump/hurricane kick all day long, and there's jackshit you can do about it if the delay's bad enough. Does that make them better than you? No, it just means the game engine was never designed to deal with online play, and some people can abuse it without even realizing it. Does that make them a better player than you? No.
And it is annoying when scrubs start shit talking for no apparent reason.
gbursine
03-01-2005, 06:09 PM
aye... let him learn...
This isnt directed towards anybody specifically... Just thought it would be a good read for you guys.
This was taken directly from Sirlins article entitled "Playing to Win". Maybe you should read it and think for a while.
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm
In the world of Street Fighter competition, we have a word for players who aren’t good: “scrub.” Now, everyone begins as a scrub—it takes time to learn the game to get to a point where you know what you’re doing. There is the mistaken notion, though, that by merely continuing to play or “learn” the game, that one can become a top player. In reality, the “scrub” has many more mental obstacles to overcome than anything actually going on during the game. The scrub has lost the game even before it starts. He’s lost the game before he’s chosen his character. He’s lost the game even before the decision of which game is to be played has been made. His problem? He does not play to win.
The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevent him from ever
Historical Scrub: Neville Chamberlain. He didn't even try to win, instead offering "appeasement" to Hitler.
truly competing. These made up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant. In Street Fighter, for example, the scrub labels a wide variety of tactics and situations “cheap.” So-called “cheapness” is truly the mantra of the scrub. Performing a throw on someone often called cheap. A throw is a special kind of move that grabs an opponent and damages him, even when the opponent is defending against all other kinds of attacks. The entire purpose of the throw is to be able to damage an opponent who sits and blocks and doesn’t attack. As far as the game is concerned, throwing is an integral part of the design—it’s meant to be there—yet the scrub has constructed his own set of principles in his mind that state he should be totally impervious to all attacks while blocking. The scrub thinks of blocking as a kind of magic shield which will protect him indefinitely. Why? Exploring the reasoning is futile since the notion is ridiculous from the start.
If you beat a scrub by throwing projectile attacks at him, keeping your distance and preventing him from getting near you…that’s cheap. If you throw him repeatedly, that’s cheap, too. We’ve covered that one. If you sit in block for 50 seconds doing no moves, that’s cheap. Nearly anything you do that ends up making you win is a prime candidate for being called cheap.
DeusFNL
03-01-2005, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the good read, appreciate it. And i appreciate you taking the time to coach me in Vampire Saviour.
GB, we should play some A3 sometime
gbursine
03-01-2005, 10:09 PM
yo, soldier zero likes to blow smoke up everyone's ass.
I play a3 like its vampire and get dped :confused: ... I'm still learnin the game. :pleased:
I'll play ya when I know I won't embarass myself ^_^
& np deus
Soldier Zero
03-01-2005, 10:44 PM
Bad games to GitDat, autofire user.
Karasu
03-02-2005, 01:21 AM
I figured GitDat was an autofire user...oh well.
Anyway, bad games to Fighter In The Wind
The thing that made it bad, was his smug attitude. Obviously the guy was better in me in the game and I acknowledged that, so I said to him there was no point in me playing anymore. He then kicks me out and calls me a quitter. I was just being real in the fact he was superior than I, didn't see a point in playing anymore. Oh well, but his atittude was un-needed.
gbursine
03-02-2005, 01:25 AM
I was just being real in the fact he was superior than I, didn't see a point in playing anymore.
so.... how do you get better?
Karasu
03-02-2005, 01:44 AM
By training, which I have been doing..but the guy is clearly out of my league, and I just don't see a point in fighting him, at the point where i'm at now. Plus, his attitude was just a bummer, and didn't want to have anything to do with that.
It would be like...a newbie to kali and to Vampire Savior going up against you or Chibi. The newbie isn't exactly going to be going anywhere, is he?
EDIT: and BTW..that's an example, not a comparison :rolleyes:
Luckychrono777
03-02-2005, 01:44 AM
Bad Games to McGregor, this kid is just plain stupid. If he joins your game, boot him. Trust me.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-02-2005, 11:31 PM
u dont wanna play Deus in a3. Adon c.Mk all day. *yawn*
First person in a while to piss me off show much I ended up using akuma.
DeusFNL
03-02-2005, 11:54 PM
Adon c.Mk all day.
You forgot to mention that I use the Jaguar kick a lot too. Oh, and don't forget them jabs.
First person in a while to piss me off show much I ended up using akuma.
Well, I may not be the best, but I was obviously good enough to force you to pick your best character.
much I ended up using akuma.
Whats this supposed to mean?
:lame:
Jeeebus!
03-03-2005, 07:52 AM
Bad games to Gman. Talks a lot of shit, and when loses(constantly) attributes it to lag.
Mixah
03-03-2005, 05:17 PM
i wouldn't come here saying shit like...
[QUOTE=R o c k L e e]u dont wanna play Deus in a3. Adon c.Mk all day. *yawn*[/QUOTE}
that just means you suck badly enough to get owned by one attack.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 01:49 AM
Deus to be fair and you have to admit, u only started using Jaguar. When you switched to X-ism, which was only the last time I played you. Before that it was j.mk c.mk or c.mp XX qcf qcf p and you know it. You could be a great player, but you need to remember there are more than 2 buttons. And no, akuma isn't my best, sorry
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
the other guy the i won't even respond to that crap.
gbursine
03-04-2005, 01:54 AM
Deus to be fair and you have to admit, u only started using Jaguar. When you switched to X-ism, which was only the last time I played you. Before that it was j.mk c.mk or c.mp XX qcf qcf p and you know it. You could be a great player, but you need to remember there are more than 2 buttons. And no, akuma isn't my best, sorry
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
the other guy the i won't even respond to that crap.
if he was such shitty play, it shouldnt even've been an issue... some characters need only 2 buttons...hell, I've beaten pple with one... so stfu and beat his ass if its so dumb and easy :tdown:
Luckychrono777
03-04-2005, 01:57 AM
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
just because Akuma is top tier wont give you the magical ability to beat someone. Just stick with what you know.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 02:08 AM
if he was such shitty play, it shouldnt even've been an issue... some characters need only 2 buttons...hell, I've beaten pple with one... so stfu and beat his ass if its so dumb and easy :tdown:
I did
And no you're right Lucky it doesn't. But it made it that much easier, which is my point
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
So? You just play Akuma because he's top tier? Get the fuck outta here.
I'm pretty sure you don't even know the reason why Akuma is top tier, nor do you probably know how to play him correctly.
My Mika vs your godly top tier V-Akuma?
also... Didn't you play like A-Sodom? Or did you hop on the V bandwagon now? :lame:
Sorry for jumping on you but its not fair to call someone out on the forums when you yourself don't know what the fuck youre doing.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 02:42 AM
So? You just play Akuma because he's top tier? Get the fuck outta here.
I'm pretty sure you don't even know the reason why Akuma is top tier, nor do you probably know how to play him correctly.
My Mika vs your godly top tier V-Akuma?
also... Didn't you play like A-Sodom? Or did you hop on the V bandwagon now? :lame:
Sorry for jumping on you but its not fair to call someone out on the forums when you yourself don't know what the fuck youre doing.
wow lol that was random.
1.) Like almost anyone whose played street fighter I started with shoto's. so where you get this "just play akuma cos he's top tier" BS I have no clue.
2.) I don't play V-ism never have, never will. tho I would like to learn.
3.) As for me not knowing what I'm doing? what? lol. I rarely have problems beating people in this game Deus is no exception. My complaint was that he kept doing the same each match and when you play a person 6-10 matches in a session each day, it gets boring.
The last time we played which like the 4th or 5th time (match 25?). I got tired of the i win 4 lose 1 for crap over some quite frankly, cheesiness. So picked akuma and won 'X' straight sets. that's all I was trying to say.
*smh*
Luckychrono777
03-04-2005, 02:47 AM
1.) Like almost anyone whose played street fighter I started with shoto's. so where you get this "just play akuma cos he's top tier" BS I have no clue.
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
^
That's where he got it from :xeye:
Akuma isnt top tier unless its V Akuma
so where you get this "just play akuma cos he's top tier" BS I have no clue.
You made it seem like that to us?
First person in a while to piss me off show much I ended up using akuma.
Whats this supposed to mean?
aXor, what is akuma? top tier?
just because Akuma is top tier wont give you the magical ability to beat someone. Just stick with what you know.
And no you're right Lucky it doesn't. But it made it that much easier, which is my point
Quit posting you keep making yourself look worse and worse.
gbursine is my hero
Are you gb on kaillera?
gbursine
03-04-2005, 02:55 AM
2.) I don't play V-ism never have, never will. tho I would like to learn.
you know... this defeats the whole purpose of playing akuma b/c hes "top tier"
3.) My complaint was that he kept doing the same each match and when you play a person 6-10 matches in a session each day, it gets boring.
I've seen matches upon matches of msp vs msp, msp vs mst, cammy/fagat/blanka/vs dictator/sakura/blanka... all boring as fuck... deal with it. theres actual improvement with the consistency of you characters.
The last time we played which like the 4th or 5th time (match 25?). I got tired of the i win 4 lose 1 for crap over some quite frankly, cheesiness. So picked akuma and won 'X' straight sets. that's all I was trying to say.
i saw this one word, and another one came to mind: scrub
edit: i smell a gangbang.... ggs lucky btw
Luckychrono777
03-04-2005, 03:01 AM
ggs lucky btw
ggs, sorry I had to go someone was nagging me about something. Hopefully we can play in the future so you can teach me more vampire savior stuff.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 03:06 AM
*sigh*
this is pointless. whether you guys want to believe it or not constant abuse of a move that has almost crazy proirity, and even more crazy frame recovery is cheesey. I mean couldn't even him hit him with jab when he whiffed.
You can call me a scrub *pfft* fine. I don't really care. The word is overused by people who don't even know what it means anyway. But I'm a decent alpha player I know that much.
Luckychrono777
03-04-2005, 03:11 AM
*sigh*
this is pointless. whether you guys want to believe it or not constant abuse of a move that has almost crazy proirity, and even more crazy frame recovery is cheesey. I mean couldn't even him hit him with jab when he whiffed.
You can call me a scrub *pfft* fine. I don't really care. The word is overused by people who don't even know what it means anyway. But I'm a decent alpha player I know that much.
I'm sorry but obviously you're the one who doesn't know what a scrub is. May I suggest you go to the Domination101 section of this forum. It'll help you're game and you're idea of what a scrub is.
*sigh*
this is pointless. whether you guys want to believe it or not constant abuse of a move that has almost crazy proirity, and even more crazy frame recovery is cheesey. I mean couldn't even him hit him when he whiffed.
You can call me a scrub *pfft* fine. I don't really care. The word is overused by people who don't even know what it means anyway. But I'm a decent alpha player I know that much.
Decent compared to who? Come on, you play on Kaillera. EVERYBODY IS DECENT ON KAILLERA!!11!1
Want to get rid of that "cheesey, constant abuse of a move that has almost crazy proirity"?, Learn how to DP. Learn how to Alpha counter if you are using Z\A Akuma. Learn how to RUSH. LEARN HOW TO USE YOUR NORMALS (Pokes, etc.). LEARN HOW TO FUCKING PLAY
Maybe compared to people like DeusFNL you can be considered decent but you come off as a scrub to people who know the game :rolleyes:,
Maybe I should play DeusFNL and record the matches..
How to play Akuma for dummies :clap:
I'm done posting in this thread.
BTW ITS MY BIRTHDAY TODAY! Really, it is! :clap:
gbursine
03-04-2005, 03:14 AM
man, I really must love quoting this one particular post...
its all good btw LC
btw look at the bottom part rock lee
This isnt directed towards anybody specifically... Just thought it would be a good read for you guys.
This was taken directly from Sirlins article entitled "Playing to Win". Maybe you should read it and think for a while.
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm
In the world of Street Fighter competition, we have a word for players who aren’t good: “scrub.” Now, everyone begins as a scrub—it takes time to learn the game to get to a point where you know what you’re doing. There is the mistaken notion, though, that by merely continuing to play or “learn” the game, that one can become a top player. In reality, the “scrub” has many more mental obstacles to overcome than anything actually going on during the game. The scrub has lost the game even before it starts. He’s lost the game before he’s chosen his character. He’s lost the game even before the decision of which game is to be played has been made. His problem? He does not play to win.
The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevent him from ever
Historical Scrub: Neville Chamberlain. He didn't even try to win, instead offering "appeasement" to Hitler.
truly competing. These made up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant. In Street Fighter, for example, the scrub labels a wide variety of tactics and situations “cheap.” So-called “cheapness” is truly the mantra of the scrub. Performing a throw on someone often called cheap. A throw is a special kind of move that grabs an opponent and damages him, even when the opponent is defending against all other kinds of attacks. The entire purpose of the throw is to be able to damage an opponent who sits and blocks and doesn’t attack. As far as the game is concerned, throwing is an integral part of the design—it’s meant to be there—yet the scrub has constructed his own set of principles in his mind that state he should be totally impervious to all attacks while blocking. The scrub thinks of blocking as a kind of magic shield which will protect him indefinitely. Why? Exploring the reasoning is futile since the notion is ridiculous from the start.
If you beat a scrub by throwing projectile attacks at him, keeping your distance and preventing him from getting near you…that’s cheap. If you throw him repeatedly, that’s cheap, too. We’ve covered that one. If you sit in block for 50 seconds doing no moves, that’s cheap. Nearly anything you do that ends up making you win is a prime candidate for being called cheap.
edit: happy birthday
I;m knowledgable, but still play like an a3 scrub... where can i buy this book?
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 03:14 AM
Well done lucky
I specifically said I didn't care.
What's funny is i'm being critized by people who I at least though I had good games with.
oh yeah and sorry for being a scrub.
LOL
edit: happy birthday
I;m knowledgable, but still play like an a3 scrub... where can i buy this book?
Thanks!
As for the book, HAH. Just IM me with whatever questions you have =) I love helping people who are willing to learn
My SN is SnapBack This
Edit: This is for you guys that want to get into A3, and think you know but have no fucking idea.
PLEASE CHECK THESE OUT IF YOU HAVE ANY INTENTIONS ON LEARNING A3!
Alpha 3 Q&A thread (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16858) Great thread. Beleive me by the time youre done reading you'll know a whole lot more about A3.
Alpha 3 VC thread (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=916) Almost every VC for every character in A3. CC setups, Katobi canceling.. All the good stuff!
Crouch Canceling (http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000229.shtml) Great article on Crouch Cancels
Kattobi Cancels (http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000602.shtml) Covers everything you need to know about Kattobi Canceling.
SPD Gief article (http://www.shoryuken.com/features/s000329.shtml) I know some of you guys play gief.. Some of you don't, But this shit is fucking interesting. Covers the range of the SPD and ways to get the most out of it.
Hope this helps!
Luckychrono777
03-04-2005, 03:27 AM
Well done lucky
I specifically said I didn't care.
What's funny is i'm being critized by people who I at least though I had good games with.
oh yeah and sorry for being a scrub.
LOL
hell yeah you should be sorry for being a scrub...
but seriously it's not like we don't like you, it's just that we disagree with something you said that's all.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 03:29 AM
Decent compared to who? Come on, you play on Kaillera. EVERYBODY IS DECENT ON KAILLERA!!11!1
Want to get rid of that "cheesey, constant abuse of a move that has almost crazy proirity"?, Learn how to DP. Learn how to Alpha counter if you are using Z\A Akuma. Learn how to RUSH. LEARN HOW TO USE YOUR NORMALS (Pokes, etc.). LEARN HOW TO FUCKING PLAY
Maybe compared to people like DeusFNL you can be considered decent but you come off as a scrub to people who know the game :rolleyes:,
Maybe I should play DeusFNL and record the matches..
How to play Akuma for dummies :clap:
I'm done posting in this thread.
BTW ITS MY BIRTHDAY TODAY! Really, it is! :clap:
Heh, what's fuuny is that
1.) my akuma obviously didn't need help
2.) two i've beat both you and lucky and yet I need to "LEARN HOW TO FUCKING PLAY"
classic
H
2.) two i've beat both you and lucky and yet I need to "LEARN HOW TO FUCKING PLAY"
Feel like embarassing yourself? im on Dark Addicts right now
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 03:34 AM
lemme close BT
gbursine
03-04-2005, 03:44 AM
oh snap... this shits goin up on combo vids.
beating pple outside of a tourney DOESNT MEAN SHIT... and even when you do beat some1 in a tourney, its not even credible till you've done it in more than like 3...
& i remember reading all those articles when they first came out back in 2k :wow: the oldness is settling in... i sleep now.
maybe u floridians should do the same :P
GGs even though the delay was horrible, move to the EC or something.
we'll play at evo or something
EveryFlowerFlow
03-04-2005, 04:08 AM
GG's see im no scrub =P.
anywho I have classes so im going to bed
g-nite ggs again
DeusFNL
03-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Bad games to akumademon. Now ill admit, this guys much better at A3 than i am. The first few times that he won, he just laughed and said i sucked. I said nothing. Then, when i won 2 times in a row, ALL FOUR TIMES, after each round, he attributed it to lag. Id go ahead and write what else happened, but u can pretty much guess. Long story short, i beat him at some of his other characters, namely Guy, Cody, and Blanka, he returns to whipping my ass with his Akuma, calls me a *** several times, says im lucky for beating him a few times(im not saying i wasnt, but if u lose, u shouldnt say shit at all) yada yada yada, etc.
Bad games to akumademon. Now ill admit, this guys much better at A3 than i am. The first few times that he won, he just laughed and said i sucked. I said nothing. Then, when i won 2 times in a row, ALL FOUR TIMES, after each round, he attributed it to lag. Id go ahead and write what else happened, but u can pretty much guess. Long story short, i beat him at some of his other characters, namely Guy, Cody, and Blanka, he returns to whipping my ass with his Akuma, calls me a *** several times, says im lucky for beating him a few times(im not saying i wasnt, but if u lose, u shouldnt say shit at all) yada yada yada, etc.
Well, he probably got angry at the fact that he lost when he knew he should have won. It happens to me alot...those types of losses tick me off the most. People call it an excuse, but it clearly isn't (atleast for me). The most common reasons I lose to anyone are:
1) Lag spike during a combo, which makes me miss it
2) In KoF2k2, I sometimes hit roll EXACTLY when a noob pulls out a random super. So what happens here is that the roll input is not registered because I hit it right during the flash. Thus, there is no roll and I run right into the super.
3) Some stupid bug. For example, people doing Robert's f b f+K, me being behind them, trying to throw them, and still getting sucked into the move.
Alot of noobs on kaillera don't really care how they win, nor do they want to know why they won, even if it was obvious the reason they won was not because they outplayed me.
Soldier Zero
03-05-2005, 09:42 AM
Bad games to akumademon.
That scrub's style is autofire + random. He even said he does random things to Quinton and me during our 3p game. Before we started the 3p game, it was just us two. He kept teching every throw, but failed to defend from a cross-up so that's bull. Plus, his Gen was only fierce slaps, but when I told Quinton in our game, he stopped it all. :tdown:
qwazy
03-05-2005, 10:29 AM
anyone wanna play me in mvc?
Luckychrono777
03-05-2005, 12:34 PM
I'd just like to reinstate that if a guy named Mcgregor joins your game boot him...quickly
fatherbrain
03-05-2005, 12:48 PM
I just got creamed by bleh. is it possile to get fierce HHS out WITHOUT DELAY every fucking time? INSTANTLY??? or is it...dare I say it...autofire?
DeusFNL
03-05-2005, 02:01 PM
Well, he probably got angry at the fact that he lost when he knew he should have won. It happens to me alot...those types of losses tick me off the most. People call it an excuse, but it clearly isn't (atleast for me).
Trust me, man, it wasnt no lag. I didnt pull off any supers, randomly, or anything. I honestly dont even know any bugs in A3. Im fairly new to the game. Even the best players have bad games sometimes. No offence to you, or anything. Maybe those times you did lose due to lag. I cant say. But with akumademon, he lost, not due to lag (I almost always feel the lag myself, in fact, im usually the first). Whether or not it was chance, or whatever, he lost, and theres no reason to make excuses.
Its not like I quickly jumped at his throat and started saying "You lost? Ha, see Im better than you." Even if i lost due to lag, due to my overconfidence, or anything, I wouldnt make any excuses. Shit, lag happens online. Its part of playing the game.
Soldier Zero
03-05-2005, 02:35 PM
Bad games to Shoot You from DA, autofire.
Its not like I quickly jumped at his throat and started saying "You lost? Ha, see Im better than you."
But see, alot of people on kaillera, especially noobs, do this...they suddenly get crazy ideas that they are better than you (or stand a chance against you). People also get mixed ideas about why they won, so setting them straight wouldn't be a bad idea.
That scrub's style is autofire + random. He even said he does random things to Quinton and me during our 3p game. Before we started the 3p game, it was just us two. He kept teching every throw, but failed to defend from a cross-up so that's bull. Plus, his Gen was only fierce slaps, but when I told Quinton in our game, he stopped it all. :tdown:
I haven't tested this in SFA3, but autofire does not affect tech hitting in KoF2k2, at all. I tested this...I held down both buttons when someone threw me (he alternated throw buttons as well), and it never once tech hitted. Perhaps you should try it in SFA3.
Soldier Zero
03-06-2005, 01:38 PM
I haven't tested this in SFA3, but autofire does not affect tech hitting in KoF2k2, at all. I tested this...I held down both buttons when someone threw me (he alternated throw buttons as well), and it never once tech hitted. Perhaps you should try it in SFA3.
I'm not big on KOF, but teching out of throws in a3 is using 3P or 3K with left or right. Holding that down along with one of the directions would give a better chance of getting out.
domino-
03-07-2005, 02:14 PM
bad games to kd in kof2k2, waits for you to move torwards him to make a move and also is repetitive :/
bad games to kd in kof2k2, waits for you to move torwards him to make a move and also is repetitive :/
Yep, fighting him really makes me lose my patience. Almost every single match is a timeover. That's the only way he can ever get close to beating me.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-07-2005, 08:59 PM
Bad games to Leonardo, Over the span of about 8 games I had to chase him from one end of the stage all the way across to the other.... just to beat his ass. LEARN TO PRESS FORWARD YOU DAMN TURTLE!!!!
LAME! :tdown:
ps. his name wasn't really Leonardo, it was Setsuna.
Luckychrono777
03-07-2005, 10:24 PM
Bad games to Leonardo, Over the span of about 8 games I had to chase him from one end of the stage all the way across to the other.... just to beat his ass. LEARN TO PRESS FORWARD YOU DAMN TURTLE!!!!
LAME! :tdown:
ps. his name wasn't really Leonardo, it was Setsuna.
I HATE that guy!!! he just jumps back the foward hoping you'll jump sfter him the whole fight. ANNOYING!
Slide
03-07-2005, 10:28 PM
I HATE that guy!!! he just jumps back the foward hoping you'll jump sfter him the whole fight. ANNOYING!
haha play against Quinton Mcloed.
Kaillera is too messed up.
Serpent
03-07-2005, 10:54 PM
haha play against Quinton Mcloed.
Kaillera is too messed up.
Haha, no shit. Why are you even posting in this board? I only checked here because I saw your name. These guys are obviously scrubs...complaining about turtling? Thats like the first thing a person needs to learn to get past before they leave scrubdom.
Personally, the only thing I truly hate on kaillera is the lag. Haha, but thats more than enough to not play on it. Everyone that's any good has already pretty much quit. Walchuk and ioriyk both are out, or if they're not, they just randomly choose to tell me and lie to me. Nibor always hated kaillera, I don't know how you guys always played him when he hasn't really ever wanted to play. big 5 was the only other truly good player, and I think he's more or less sick of kaillera too, but ax0r would know for sure about that. All that's really left are a bunch of scrubs or people that clearly abuse lag. I'm sure there are a few good players here and there, but it's probably a total crapshoot to find them. Everyone should just play Tekken 5 now in the arcades.
Slide
03-07-2005, 11:31 PM
Haha, no shit. Why are you even posting in this board? I only checked here because I saw your name. These guys are obviously scrubs...complaining about turtling? Thats like the first thing a person needs to learn to get past before they leave scrubdom.
Personally, the only thing I truly hate on kaillera is the lag. Haha, but thats more than enough to not play on it. Everyone that's any good has already pretty much quit. Walchuk and ioriyk both are out, or if they're not, they just randomly choose to tell me and lie to me. Nibor always hated kaillera, I don't know how you guys always played him when he hasn't really ever wanted to play. big 5 was the only other truly good player, and I think he's more or less sick of kaillera too, but ax0r would know for sure about that. All that's really left are a bunch of scrubs or people that clearly abuse lag. I'm sure there are a few good players here and there, but it's probably a total crapshoot to find them. Everyone should just play Tekken 5 now in the arcades.
I've already quit. And told others that I've quit. I can't take the gayness anymore. And then there are those cats that think that kaillera is the true indicator of if someone is "pro" at a game. i.e. check the kof Q & A thread(page 85) in Other games section, and read Emil's posts. What a wierdo. Most of the people on this kaillera need to get their heads screwed on the right way.
I've already talked with ioriYK, he was at his last straw and left too. Probably around the sametime i said fuck it. As for Walchuk, i havent really talked to him about that. But I'm sure he's through too, now that all the regulars are/were dropping out.
The only players that can "play" that are left are: Ryu1999 and Big 5/Five Foot/whatever he goes by now.
--------
And yes, Tekken 5 is where it's at. I'm trying to get to FR8(if my Army schedule allows that).
Karasu
03-08-2005, 12:40 AM
I forgot his whole name...it was something like: Beatbox | Busdriver
He was a lame fighter IMO. He was ok in the beginning, but then I won a couple of times...then he started using my same characters [like, Morrigan/Capt America vs. Morrigan Capt. America], then when I won a couple of more, he resort to Strider and War Machine and stooped to using an infinite to beat me. I just thought it was pretty lame that he had to resort to that in order to defeat me. Then we're playing the match, he beats me, exits the game and runs off without saying a word. No "gg" no anything..he just leaves. Again..lame.
Luckychrono777
03-08-2005, 01:21 AM
Haha, no shit. Why are you even posting in this board? I only checked here because I saw your name. These guys are obviously scrubs...complaining about turtling? Thats like the first thing a person needs to learn to get past before they leave scrubdom.
If this post was aimed at me, I was not complaining about the turtling(if you can even call that guys style turtling), I just simply stated it was annoying. I had 0 problems dealing with the guys strategy, so don't go making dumbass assumptions about who the fuck doesn't know how to play.
If it wasn't aimed at me then nevermind.
And then there are those cats that think that kaillera is the true indicator of if someone is "pro" at a game. i.e. check the kof Q & A thread(page 85) in Other games section, and read Emil's posts. What a wierdo. Most of the people on this kaillera need to get their heads screwed on the right way.
Oh boy, I thought you'd be better than this, but here you go taking everything totally out of context. Nowhere did I state kaillera is the true indicator of someone being a pro, I merely said that I noticed a few people on kaillera, who had fighting ability that rivaled that of offline pro players. If you're going to bring up that stupid argument again, atleast don't take it out of context.
I've already talked with ioriYK, he was at his last straw and left too. Probably around the sametime i said fuck it. As for Walchuk, i havent really talked to him about that. But I'm sure he's through too, now that all the regulars are/were dropping out.
Those guys are apparently all coming to JJ's KoF2k2 tournament next week, including Walchuk, KoFiend, Denimaru, etc...
EveryFlowerFlow
03-08-2005, 09:50 AM
If this post was aimed at me, I was not complaining about the turtling(if you can even call that guys style turtling), I just simply stated it was annoying. I had 0 problems dealing with the guys strategy, so don't go making dumbass assumptions about who the fuck doesn't know how to play.
If it wasn't aimed at me then nevermind.
Exactly
And as for Ryu1999 and 5 being the only people who, can 'play' A3.
LOL get you head out of your ass
Very bad games to Roy in KoF2k2. This guy is a total scrub. He doesn't seem to take constructive criticism well, so he began trash talking. Continuously said "you suck", even though he was being demolished, and I was the one who was lagging and not trying. On top of that, he said something like "you have no skill because you use the same combo over and over", which is total rubbish. If he's giving me free combos (by doing dumb random things to me, when I'm already blocking), then of course I'll use the most damaging combo I have (unless it uses up lots of super levels).
D'Nyc3
03-08-2005, 05:46 PM
SIgh...
I don't play on kaillera much anymore either.
Lags don't bother me as much but most people there aren't that good.
Also few players i don't trust. (I.E. Autofire)
A3, Big five, He's ok...cept for his nice akuma(thats hot). Ryu1999, He's Great, he used to rape me when i started this but now i can beat him usually now so my mission is done there. Nibor, ill play him when i head to NYC after i get my degree. Ive done i best. Ive beaten everyone thats good. Thats all i wanted to do. I have no purpose on kaillera so i moved on. But regardless Lucky and Rock lee are prolly the 2 that will get to the top REAL soon.
My 2 cents, peace.
EDIT: Orange, hope you come to FR8, im trying to make it also. :tup:
Ive beaten everyone thats good. Thats all i wanted to do. I have no purpose on kaillera so i moved on.
Ok, now come back for some KoF2k2 competition! You seemed to have totally disappeared from the KoF scene, and you seemed good in it.
Slide
03-08-2005, 08:49 PM
Oh boy, I thought you'd be better than this, but here you go taking everything totally out of context. Nowhere did I state kaillera is the true indicator of someone being a pro, I merely said that I noticed a few people on kaillera, who had fighting ability that rivaled that of offline pro players. If you're going to bring up that stupid argument again, atleast don't take it out of context.
You called them pros.
As for the rest of the context of my statement, my mistake.
Those guys are apparently all coming to JJ's KoF2k2 tournament next week, including Walchuk, KoFiend, Denimaru, etc...
Cause it's a chance to see if this JJ person is actually going to cough up real money on kaillera. It's virtually a no risk high reward.
EDIT: Orange, hope you come to FR8, im trying to make it also. :tup:
No doubt.
Serpent
03-09-2005, 12:05 PM
I tried to get games with Young_Ice yesterday, and it was laggy and stupid. We both hate kaillera. He was able to deal with the lag pretty well, but I have no solution for delay since my game is based so much on positioning, movement, and lots of other things that you simply can't do on gay ass kaillera (like punishing a jump-in with a DP, heh).
Funny thing though, I saw Walchuk while me and Ice were trying to find a decent server. I IMed Walchuk about it, and told him how embarassed I was of him, and he responded with something like "Yes, sadly, I am not proud of this...but atleast I can't find Garou in the arcades!...I have no excuse for the other games though." The only way kaillera is even remotely playable is if your ping is below 35 and on excellent connection type atleast, and on a good stable server. And 35 I consider high...ideally it should be like...5, but around 20-30 is still usually somewhat playable...after that it is just stupid and instead of it being real play, it becomes this retarded guessing game. On kaillera actual legit play will rarely help you, you're better off being teh agressor with random ass moves since its so hard to punish anything on reaction here.
I'm gonna root for my boy Young_Ice on kaillera since I don't want to play this shit myself. Good luck, kaillera warrior, lol.
I tried to get games with Young_Ice yesterday, and it was laggy and stupid. We both hate kaillera. He was able to deal with the lag pretty well, but I have no solution for delay since my game is based so much on positioning, movement, and lots of other things that you simply can't do on gay ass kaillera (like punishing a jump-in with a DP, heh).
Funny thing though, I saw Walchuk while me and Ice were trying to find a decent server. I IMed Walchuk about it, and told him how embarassed I was of him, and he responded with something like "Yes, sadly, I am not proud of this...but atleast I can't find Garou in the arcades!...I have no excuse for the other games though." The only way kaillera is even remotely playable is if your ping is below 35 and on excellent connection type atleast, and on a good stable server. And 35 I consider high...ideally it should be like...5, but around 20-30 is still usually somewhat playable...after that it is just stupid and instead of it being real play, it becomes this retarded guessing game. On kaillera actual legit play will rarely help you, you're better off being teh agressor with random ass moves since its so hard to punish anything on reaction here.
I'm gonna root for my boy Young_Ice on kaillera since I don't want to play this shit myself. Good luck, kaillera warrior, lol.
I think you're overexaggerating now. Yes, there are alot of people that just pull out random ass moves, but I do not see anything difficult about punishing jump-ins with a dp. Besides, if it were laggy, doesn't that give you more time to react to things (as the opponent's action is taking longer to finish)?
For me, kaillera mainly affects my combo ability. I'm sick of doing the bread and butter Kula combo, then having the dp+C combo finisher totally miss the enemy because my input was delayed for it. Kaillera's lag and delay also allows alot of people to do stupid things such as roll right into me and trying to throw me. I can throw them most of the time before they do, but that should NEVER work in a non-laggy environment.
Serpent
03-09-2005, 02:36 PM
I think you're overexaggerating now. Yes, there are alot of people that just pull out random ass moves, but I do not see anything difficult about punishing jump-ins with a dp. Besides, if it were laggy, doesn't that give you more time to react to things (as the opponent's action is taking longer to finish)?
For me, kaillera mainly affects my combo ability. I'm sick of doing the bread and butter Kula combo, then having the dp+C combo finisher totally miss the enemy because my input was delayed for it. Kaillera's lag and delay also allows alot of people to do stupid things such as roll right into me and trying to throw me. I can throw them most of the time before they do, but that should NEVER work in a non-laggy environment.
By the time I my DP comes out, they either kicked me in the head or are on the ground blocking. That is a kaillera bullshit thing, in arcades I DP stuff like Akuma's divekick 95% of the time on reaction, you're telling me I can't DP a simple jump in with a character on kaillera and that it's my fault? Fuck no, thats kaillera lag and delay right there. As for the random moves, in person, if I walk forward and someone does some stupid ass random move, I get to block it, on kaillera I get to eat it because it won't give me my block input. The only moves that should be hitting people when they're walking forward are Balrog's Level 3 super in CvS2 and maybe a few other 1 frame or whatever startup moves, however, I can CC right through that super on reaction if I'm in A groove, so I should certainly be able to blow through a non super in A3 which has MORE invulnerability frames on activation.
If anything, the only thing kaillera doesn't affect are combos. The timing is the same with delay as it is in anything else. What kaillera affects is everything that is reaction based, and this of course means footsies, punishing, and positioning.
The more you defend kaillera, the more I know you're a scrub. You're lucky OrangeMegaSlide is playing nice and retracted his statements, however, I bet he didn't take anything out of context at all.
Luckychrono777
03-09-2005, 05:42 PM
Yeah Serpents right about the dp thing, you can't react to jump-ins on kaillera unless your using a shoto crouching mp, but the dive kick still owns you. :sad:
and I think it affects combos also cause I can't do some online. But I try to find ways to get around things, but there is no way in hell to get around the dive kick unless you predict it.
If anything, the only thing kaillera doesn't affect are combos. The timing is the same with delay as it is in anything else.
Well, let's just say, I can do a ton of high level BC combos offline practice mode, but the moment I try online practice mode, they fail.
The more you defend kaillera, the more I know you're a scrub.
Pfft, where do you get these conclusions from? And I'm not the one that's constantly complaining that they can't play on kaillera. Kaillera lag can be bad, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say it is, unless you're on dialup or something (and you aren't, since you seem to be complaining about any ping greater than 35), while I play with ping anywhere from 40-95. If you have that many problems dp'ing stuff, and that much trouble blocking, while I don't, then it seems to be *partially* your fault. You're describing kaillera as if every single match was like the one me and K'Bron had in that HellSap tourney (that thing was going at a nice 10-20 frames per second probably, the worst lag I've ever had).
You're lucky OrangeMegaSlide is playing nice and retracted his statements, however, I bet he didn't take anything out of context at all.
He did.
Slide
03-10-2005, 09:02 AM
He did.
Actually, others can read the dispute in the thread that was linked(kof Q & A), and decide for themselves. And can also see why you're not even worth further discussion.
Airthrow
03-10-2005, 10:00 AM
THREE NINJAS FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! :karate:
Serpent
03-10-2005, 10:34 AM
Actually, others can read the dispute in the thread that was linked(kof Q & A), and decide for themselves. And can also see why you're not even worth further discussion.
You mean....this? (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27288&page=85&pp=15)
caliagent#3
03-10-2005, 10:47 AM
Pfft, where do you get these conclusions from? And I'm not the one that's constantly complaining that they can't play on kaillera. Kaillera lag can be bad, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say it is, unless you're on dialup or something (and you aren't, since you seem to be complaining about any ping greater than 35), while I play with ping anywhere from 40-95. If you have that many problems dp'ing stuff, and that much trouble blocking, while I don't, then it seems to be *partially* your fault. You're describing kaillera as if every single match was like the one me and K'Bron had in that HellSap tourney (that thing was going at a nice 10-20 frames per second probably, the worst lag I've ever had).
I don't know about you, but offline most of us can dp things on reaction. playing on kaillera is like a guessing game.
Slide
03-10-2005, 10:57 AM
You mean....this? (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27288&page=85&pp=15)
Yep, that's it.
Peeps can read it, and see for themselves that Emil is retarded and is definintly on some substance abuse type shit.
Yep, that's it.
Peeps can read it, and see for themselves that Emil is retarded and is definintly on some substance abuse type shit.
They'll also love seeing how you're some sort of elitist that loves making arguments out of totally little things, and furthermore, totally taking things out of context in order to try to make yourself seem right. What I said is extremely simple to grasp. There are players on kaillera, who have abilities that rival that of offline pro players. I do not see a difference between those pro kaillera players, and the offline pro players (well, unless you take into consideration the extremely good offline pro players like Justin Wong, which you do not really see on kaillera). Since I do not see a difference, I consider both of types to be pros. All the crap you said however, is just the twisting of my words (ie, saying that I stated kaillera is the TRUE indicator of someone being a pro, not to mention other nonsense).
Icege
03-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Emil, not to add fuel to the fire, but this is what we've been trying to tell you forever ^_^
Emil, not to add fuel to the fire, but this is what we've been trying to tell you forever ^_^
Except you're ignoring all forms of common sense. Read what I said...there is nothing rediculous about what I said. The ablilities of these kaillera players clearly rival that of pro players, so I'll consider them as such. We aren't talking about their ability to win (that would be based on lag and such), we're talking about their fighting ability. And Icege, you have yet to even play any of these players I was referring to, so there's no point in even attempting to argue here.
Icege
03-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Except you're ignoring all forms of common sense. Read what I said...there is nothing rediculous about what I said. The ablilities of these kaillera players clearly rival that of pro players, so I'll consider them as such. We aren't talking about their ability to win (that would be based on lag and such), we're talking about their fighting ability. And Icege, you have yet to even play any of these players I was referring to, so there's no point in even attempting to argue here.
My arguement was that online play was in no way, shape, or form remotely reliable in terms of assessing a player's skill. Serpent pretty much said everything I have already in terms of grief with Kaillera (no clutch DP/super due to the lag causing you to be hit by the time it comes out, guessing game since you can just stick out random high priority moves and not have to worry about getting tagged for it, no footsies since you can't walk back and forth due to lag).
What you're essentially saying, is that somebody who plays MvC1 well online rivals the skills of Arturo when he played MvC1. That's a very, very bold statement to make.
I don't even have to play these guys to be quite honest. I know just as well as everybody else that most of these "grand" players online don't really hold up well in offline tournaments (with the exception of those who do play offline on the regular). I'm reminded of Airic from CvS2Live who went 0-2 at Evo2k5 saying they put him in a pool full of top players he didn't know. The only name I recognized was Justin Wong. Even then, Airic said he didn't play Justin. So it goes to show... ^_^
D'Nyc3
03-12-2005, 03:45 AM
My arguement was that online play was in no way, shape, or form remotely reliable in terms of assessing a player's skill. Serpent pretty much said everything I have already in terms of grief with Kaillera (no clutch DP/super due to the lag causing you to be hit by the time it comes out, guessing game since you can just stick out random high priority moves and not have to worry about getting tagged for it, no footsies since you can't walk back and forth due to lag).
What you're essentially saying, is that somebody who plays MvC1 well online rivals the skills of Arturo when he played MvC1. That's a very, very bold statement to make.
I don't even have to play these guys to be quite honest. I know just as well as everybody else that most of these "grand" players online don't really hold up well in offline tournaments (with the exception of those who do play offline on the regular). I'm reminded of Airic from CvS2Live who went 0-2 at Evo2k5 saying they put him in a pool full of top players he didn't know. The only name I recognized was Justin Wong. Even then, Airic said he didn't play Justin. So it goes to show... ^_^
Shut up BITCH
I was gonna say that!!!!
but but you took every word outta my mouth mothafucka!!!!
J/K
FR8 son..
FR8
white silver
03-12-2005, 09:55 AM
i wouldnt say all onine play ^_^
My arguement was that online play was in no way, shape, or form remotely reliable in terms of assessing a player's skill.
Except it's wrong. I can see an almost exact mirror between some of these really good kaillera players, and the offline pro players. If you compare their style and ability from a kaillera match, and an offline match (many videos of which I already have), you can notice that they have just as good execution, strategy, etc. What I'm saying is, if I were to compare to offline pro players, and then an offline pro player with one of these kaillera pro players that i"m referring to, there would be no difference.
What you're essentially saying, is that somebody who plays MvC1 well online rivals the skills of Arturo when he played MvC1. That's a very, very bold statement to make.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, there exist some players, who's skills on kaillera equal the skills offline. This is such a simple concept, except always misinterpreted. No, I'm not saying being good online means you're good offline, nor am I saying that being good online automatically means you're a good player.
Icege
03-12-2005, 04:12 PM
Shut up BITCH
I was gonna say that!!!!
but but you took every word outta my mouth mothafucka!!!!
J/K
FR8 son..
FR8
You gonna be up there Friday night? We need to get some Project Justice going. I haven't played that ish in foreeeeveeeeer.
Except it's wrong. I can see an almost exact mirror between some of these really good kaillera players, and the offline pro players. If you compare their style and ability from a kaillera match, and an offline match (many videos of which I already have), you can notice that they have just as good execution, strategy, etc. What I'm saying is, if I were to compare to offline pro players, and then an offline pro player with one of these kaillera pro players that i"m referring to, there would be no difference.
Except, you're wrong. Please point to me the top A3 player on Kaillera, and then do your best to convince me that he rivals the likes of Apoc, Choi, Valle, and all those players. You can't. Do you know why? Offline, V-ism is a major player in A3 (despite Apoc rocking the A-Rog like it's hot). Able to activate using the invincibility frames to blow through things such as fireballs, dps, etc and then landing a custom combo that requires precise timing and reflexes (which strength button to use for distance, etc), then crouch cancel at the end. Then of course, the amount of poking/footsies necessary.
This does not hold up online. Why? Because the lag makes it so. Even miniscule, it plays a huge factor. We go from being able to react at a precise moment to having to predict that precise moment. That comes down to luck.
I'm not saying online players aren't good, I'm saying that it's a completely different environment. You cannot tell me that these guys online are just as good offline. There entire style of playing has to change. That's why a large majority of us don't take Kaillera seriously at all.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, there exist some players, who's skills on kaillera equal the skills offline. This is such a simple concept, except always misinterpreted. No, I'm not saying being good online means you're good offline, nor am I saying that being good online automatically means you're a good player.
Refer to my above statement. They're completely different environments. The only thing that remains constant is simple, basic combos. You take a Vanessa player offline who can do her BC combo flawlessly, then stick him onto Kaillera and make him do it. He'll hit it when he can, but he will mess it up a lot more simply due to the lag. That's a pretty big damper to the game play.
Until you get out and play some players offline, you'll never understand.
Ryu1999
03-13-2005, 12:25 AM
I'm not saying online players aren't good, I'm saying that it's a completely different environment. You cannot tell me that these guys online are just as good offline. There entire style of playing has to change. That's why a large majority of us don't take Kaillera seriously at all.
I beg to differ. Some people are are good/decent online, and even BETTER offline, like myself. The only VCs that i can't do consistently online are Akuma OTG and hadou-rave. I don't really have a different style of play offline and online, mainly character choice as in I'll play Gief and Sim a lot more online than I would my other characters and even then a lot of stuff that I'll still attempt like dhalshim anti-air b+mp(CH)/b+wp->grab super even though they don't work that well online
Icege
03-13-2005, 02:58 AM
I beg to differ. Some people are are good/decent online, and even BETTER offline, like myself. The only VCs that i can't do consistently online are Akuma OTG and hadou-rave. I don't really have a different style of play offline and online, mainly character choice as in I'll play Gief and Sim a lot more online than I would my other characters and even then a lot of stuff that I'll still attempt like dhalshim anti-air b+mp(CH)/b+wp->grab super even though they don't work that well online
Refer to where I said just as good. There are exceptions like yourself, but a majority of the people who play primarily offline as compared to online are much better offline than how they play online ^_^
Serpent
03-13-2005, 11:27 AM
Refer to where I said just as good. There are exceptions like yourself, but a majority of the people who play primarily offline as compared to online are much better offline than how they play online ^_^
Exactly. And Ryu1999, I would hope you were a lot better in offline play, because that kaillera play really isn't going to cut it. It's funny that you mention Gief and Sim, Gief is helped a lot on the internet, and Sim is too. Those also happen to be the only two characters that are even remotely scary from you. Stop with trying to insert yourself into this just to get some e-props, I had thought from speaking to you that you were above that. I honestly hope that wasn't why you posted, I didn't think you were this type of person.
On a brighter note, how is the law school thing going? You probably have to make your decisions by the end of this month. My G.P.A looks like it killed me and my lack of applying to a lot of places (I thought I was a lock to GWU, so I didn't really apply to many others) so I'll probably take a scholarship locally and hopefully transfer out to Georgetown after a year. Hopefully you've planned and done better than me though.
Ryu1999
03-13-2005, 01:14 PM
Exactly. And Ryu1999, I would hope you were a lot better in offline play, because that kaillera play really isn't going to cut it. It's funny that you mention Gief and Sim, Gief is helped a lot on the internet, and Sim is too. Those also happen to be the only two characters that are even remotely scary from you. Stop with trying to insert yourself into this just to get some e-props, I had thought from speaking to you that you were above that. I honestly hope that wasn't why you posted, I didn't think you were this type of person.
I think its pretty insulting of you to think I'd give myself e-props considering I've never done it in any messages on any of these forums. Kalliera is a lot worse for certain people than others because if the lag we had when we played each other was what you had every time I can understand why you hate it so much. On the other hand the lag I get when I play most people doesn't get that bad, but unfortunately the people with the best ping are often the scrubbiest people I've ever played.
P.S. I think I pretty much said that I resort to Gief/Sim BECAUSE of lag.
Serpent
03-13-2005, 01:32 PM
I think its pretty insulting of you to think I'd give myself e-props considering I've never done it in any messages on any of these forums. Kalliera is a lot worse for certain people than others because if the lag we had when we played each other was what you had every time I can understand why you hate it so much. On the other hand the lag I get when I play most people doesn't get that bad, but unfortunately the people with the best ping are often the scrubbiest people I've ever played.
P.S. I think I pretty much said that I resort to Gief/Sim BECAUSE of lag.
My apologies, it looked like you were but as I said, I thought I knew you better and I didn't think you had meant it that way.
Yeah, it's pretty much always that bad for me. There are very few times I actually get a really smooth game on kaillera that I am happy with. I used to get better games years ago, but it got a lot worse and thats why I hate playing so much. It's not worth it to me to get a new ISP or a new computer or whatever I need for it to be decent, and even those two changes I'm not sure would give me a decent game.
DaDesiCanadian
03-13-2005, 06:58 PM
Yeah, Kaillera sucks, but for people with little or no comp. for certain games in our area, it's the best we have. I mean i'd much rather play some semi-decent guy offline than a top player online, but even that's not available.
Serpent, why are you even arguing. If it's not clear to Emil by now that kaillera sucks as an indicator of skill, it's never going to be.
EDIT: Forgot the real reason i was gonna post here. Bad Games to Jman. The guy accuses me of being a scrub with Dan because "I use too many kicks". Then leaves causing me to freeze. Then he does it again.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-14-2005, 05:58 PM
BAD GAMES to Sword: Strength (In the Heart) does nothing but scrub me out with j,B in LB2 but complains when he gets owned by my Lee
:lame:
Juchel.Zero
03-16-2005, 07:07 AM
Well with 22 ms of ping games get pretty cool. Higher than 50 and it gets iffy.
This does not hold up online. Why? Because the lag makes it so. Even miniscule, it plays a huge factor. We go from being able to react at a precise moment to having to predict that precise moment. That comes down to luck.
I'm not saying online players aren't good, I'm saying that it's a completely different environment. You cannot tell me that these guys online are just as good offline. There entire style of playing has to change. That's why a large majority of us don't take Kaillera seriously at all.
But what I've been trying to say this whole time is that even in this laggy environment, they play just as if a great offline player would play offline. I do not know how they do it. Some of these people have flawless comboing online (which is why I sometimes suspect autofire, even though they apparently do not use it). Their execution on strategies, combos and whatever else seems unaffected by lag. I'm not sure how, but as I said, I see no direct difference between these very few kaillera players, and alot of offline players. Yes, the majority of people do have serious problems with lag (like me). But the people I'm talking about, play so damn good as if there is no lag for them at all (even though they still complain that there is lag). As I said, you really don't know what I"m talking about until you fight these people for yourself. You're just assuming that this lag affects them like it would almost anyone else, but somehow, these players play as if they are playing offline.
ParryAll
03-16-2005, 12:30 PM
Very, very very bad games to Remy 432 or something like that. I kicked his ass 7 times in a row in Marvel Vs. Capcom. What a poopy head man.
Icege
03-16-2005, 01:31 PM
But what I've been trying to say this whole time is that even in this laggy environment, they play just as if a great offline player would play offline. I do not know how they do it. Some of these people have flawless comboing online (which is why I sometimes suspect autofire, even though they apparently do not use it). Their execution on strategies, combos and whatever else seems unaffected by lag. I'm not sure how, but as I said, I see no direct difference between these very few kaillera players, and alot of offline players. Yes, the majority of people do have serious problems with lag (like me). But the people I'm talking about, play so damn good as if there is no lag for them at all (even though they still complain that there is lag). As I said, you really don't know what I"m talking about until you fight these people for yourself. You're just assuming that this lag affects them like it would almost anyone else, but somehow, these players play as if they are playing offline.
No. They don't.
They can execute simple combos. Good for them. Some of them mildly difficult. Also good for them.
However, you miss out on an ENTIRE ASPECT OF GAME PLAY when you lose the ability to use footsies and poke effeciently.
Plus the reflexive aspect is dumbed down because you quite literally have to guess during the opening bits of animation whether or not you could stuff it or should just block.
I'm not assuming either, I'm telling you.
Get some vids of them playing offline instead of getting all moist over them playing online. You telling me that you've seen Kaillera videos rivaling that of SBO vids makes me giggle still.
They can execute simple combos. Good for them. Some of them mildly difficult. Also good for them.
However, you miss out on an ENTIRE ASPECT OF GAME PLAY when you lose the ability to use footsies and poke effeciently. And no, they can execute all of the combos...which I do not understand how they do that in lag.
Plus the reflexive aspect is dumbed down because you quite literally have to guess during the opening bits of animation whether or not you could stuff it or should just block.
I'm not assuming either, I'm telling you.
You can't tell me something if you have no experience on the matter. Don't tell me how they play, see for yourself. Either way, these players aren't much of the poker style. They are rushdown freaks.
You telling me that you've seen Kaillera videos rivaling that of SBO vids makes me giggle still.
Yes...and I do have a decent amount of SBO videos (and many that are better than SBO). And yes, they rival them...but as I said, there are only a very select few that do, but they exist.
Serpent
03-16-2005, 02:01 PM
I give up on this idiot...as should you. Someone should link him to S-Kill's old articles on how to watch tourney matches. Give me a break, there is virtually no combo used in tourney matches that most people can't do in casual games or atleast practice mode, rather, most people can do fancier combos in casual matches but come tourney time nobody can fucking hit anything. Hitting a simple combo against a top player is MUCH harder than hitting an advanced combo on a weak player in a game that means nothing. People who have never played in tourney or against top level competition will never understand that. Hell, the gap between playing a top player in casual play and playing a SCRUB in tourney play can be huge too, frequently you can lose against the scrub where you might have more of a chance beating that top player. You can not underestimate tourney level.
Slide
03-16-2005, 02:05 PM
Icege, no need to even waste your time on Emil. Let him enjoy his delayed games and naive assumptions.
Icege
03-16-2005, 02:16 PM
Sadly, I was dealing with him before he came here. I'll take it to AIM. Sorry for wasting space on the thread :)
[wpp]Chi
03-16-2005, 04:22 PM
played some one named Whore.. whoa.. what a fantastic match we had... Choi + Billy + Athena.. Choi = poke poke poke, escape escape, fly fly fly... Billy = 2a x n, 6a x n.. and his athena.. well nothing special about her.. got used to her style of playing... Dont' play KOF man.. play KOC (king of cheapness) that is more a game for you....
Luckychrono777
03-16-2005, 04:35 PM
Chi']played some one named Whore.. whoa.. what a fantastic match we had... Choi + Billy + Athena.. Choi = poke poke poke, escape escape, fly fly fly... Billy = 2a x n, 6a x n.. and his athena.. well nothing special about her.. got used to her style of playing... Dont' play KOF man.. play KOC (king of cheapness) that is more a game for you....
enjoy getting flamed for being a scrub...
EveryFlowerFlow
03-16-2005, 06:31 PM
*sigh*
Bad games to firefox, dude if you're goona use autofire. use it with a character where it's not so freaking obvious. i.e NOT GUY (or sak for that matter)
Honestly I don't know who you think you are fooling, people like you are just greedy and lazy. I mean Guy's Jab has close the fastest recovery as it is, U don't even need autofire for it. Come On.
Geez.
D'Nyc3
03-16-2005, 08:25 PM
Yes...and I do have a decent amount of SBO videos (and many that are better than SBO). And yes, they rival them...but as I said, there are only a very select few that do, but they exist.
Prove it.....
You asumming this and that is annoying me cause you're not proving anything you said. :tdown:
Luckychrono777
03-16-2005, 09:54 PM
Emil, just let it go.
There are barely any offline players who can compete on the level of the SBO players, so there couldn't possibly be any online. Besides the fact that high level play like that is impossible on kaillera, there is no one as good as they are on kaillera anyway.
Soldier Zero
03-22-2005, 06:59 PM
Bad games with penguin.
Uses autofire, some lag, and talks shit.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-22-2005, 08:55 PM
Bad games with penguin.
Uses autofire, some lag, and talks shit.
LOL, that ***. I beat him once and dropped. I hate when people use autofire on FP or FK and try to act like they don't. It's so damn obvious. That also goes to a couple SRK'ers too, you know who you are =/ (not lucky, axor etc)
That also goes to a couple SRK'ers too, you know who you are =/ (not lucky, axor)
I hope youre not accusing me of using auto =P thats just silly
DaDesiCanadian
03-22-2005, 09:25 PM
*sigh*
Bad games to firefox, dude if you're goona use autofire. use it with a character where it's not so freaking obvious. i.e NOT GUY (or sak for that matter)
Honestly I don't know who you think you are fooling, people like you are just greedy and lazy. I mean Guy's Jab has close the fastest recovery as it is, U don't even need autofire for it. Come On.
Geez.
Yeah, I played him too, very obvious autofire. Of course he denied everything.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-22-2005, 09:55 PM
not lucky, axor etc
Luckychrono777
03-23-2005, 12:08 AM
^hey woah.....what going on here?
not lucky, axor etc
Oops that didn't show up when I read it
Tench
03-24-2005, 05:18 AM
Didnt know whether to put this one up, as this kinda thing happens all the time on kaillera and I did say ggs to the guy out of politeness when we were done, as I thought it was all good. Then I started thinking and it hit me.
Bad games with: NM//Dragon
Platform:Mame/kaillera
Game:Last blade 2
Bad because:Heavy, HEAVY use of autofire, not sure about all the matches before but definitely on the last. Nobody gets 6 hits from Zantetsu's d+A*n chain consistently, especially online. Those that could wouldn't use it. Literally jump B to d+autofire A was all the guy did. Well, he won that one, (my fault really), but I did find it irritating how rather than carry on playing he quit as soon as he won his first match after playing and losing 20 or so. Its not the losing, its the guy's burning desire to get one up on me by quitting as soon as he wins, meaning I have to go find another LB2 player (and they're few and far between, especially in europe - only place where I get no lag). Since most here are in America (I think) and this guys european, y'all should be ok.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-24-2005, 12:32 PM
Bad games to joemamma,
This guy did absolutely nothing but hold down autofire FP with gen for two games straight. no jump, crouch, no other buttons.
I'm speechless
Luckychrono777
03-25-2005, 12:32 AM
this isn't exactly a bad game but...
I was playing some guy named PrincePwnage in A3 and I beat him so bad he started punching he desk and aparently broke his finger.....
:rofl:
EveryFlowerFlow
03-25-2005, 02:04 AM
this isn't exactly a bad game but...
I was playing some guy named PrincePwnage in A3 and I beat him so bad he started punching he desk and aparently broke his finger.....
:rofl:
LOL wow
tsubame
03-25-2005, 03:30 AM
In regards to Emil's post.
Generally, the people least affected by lag are the rushdown freaks, since a lot of rushdown is flow-based, which means you follow one move with a flowchart. Comboing is affected more by lag spikes then the actual lag itself, as long as lag stays constant, and knowledge of the combo timing is known, comboing isn't that much harder online. That may be why some aren't affected by the lag as much- more of a style factor.
The gameplay style most affected by lag is the turtlers, who have difficulty reacting to rushdown.
Also, some games are more affected by lag then others. I think KOF is less susceptible to lag then say ST, where reversal timing is needed on a lot of things. Generally, the looser the game's timing, the less lag affects it.
Soldier Zero
03-25-2005, 07:01 AM
this isn't exactly a bad game but...
I was playing some guy named PrincePwnage in A3 and I beat him so bad he started punching he desk and aparently broke his finger.....
:rofl:
He's not gonna be playing for a while. :clap:
EveryFlowerFlow
03-25-2005, 10:58 AM
bad games to black bomber, sorry guy but an AA shinryuken doesn't hit a person 25 times! and to make it worse he tried to play it off as "Button Negation" wtf is that shit
EveryFlowerFlow
03-26-2005, 02:54 AM
Bad games to Nicker, he spent each round moaning about something, he bitched when he lost, he bitched when he won.
what a bitch!
Soldier Zero
03-26-2005, 04:06 PM
Bad games to Emporer Sagat, doesn't even bother doing anything except criticizing fake desyncers.
ChibiPotPie
03-26-2005, 06:26 PM
Bad games to Emporer Sagat, doesn't even bother doing anything except criticizing fake desyncers.
I thought as much. Not that good a player either.
bad games to linux05. the actual fights were good, but the atmosphere was bad.
this was months ago. he's apparently stuck in the "I'm in a level of my very own.." stage. he says everyone he comes across either rapes him or is severely raped by him. even though i wasn't as good as he was, i became so later on and he still continued to preach that same bs. he claims that the games aren't fun once you start to examine the technical data (birth of infinites, attack properties, etc). he's good in SFA3, but he sucks in matters of the mind.. to prove that he even says "kid you can't reach their (really good players) level anymore than i can. just give up." FUCK THAT. before i came to this board, i didn't even know what an infinite was and even though they looked impossible, i still tried and eventually got some down. now some fucker expects me to quit a game I like because he THINKS i'm inferior and will forever be inferior?
bad games to linux05. the actual fights were good, but the atmosphere was bad.
this was months ago. he's apparently stuck in the "I'm in a level of my very own.." stage. he says everyone he comes across either rapes him or is severely raped by him. even though i wasn't as good as he was, i became so later on and he still continued to preach that same bs. he claims that the games aren't fun once you start to examine the technical data (birth of infinites, attack properties, etc). he's good in SFA3, but he sucks in matters of the mind.. to prove that he even says "kid you can't reach their (really good players) level anymore than i can. just give up." FUCK THAT. before i came to this board, i didn't even know what an infinite was and even though they looked impossible, i still tried and eventually got some down. now some fucker expects me to quit a game I like because he THINKS i'm inferior and will forever be inferior?
Linux is the master of Lag Tactics, and he sucks.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-30-2005, 03:02 PM
Bad games to Don't Believe the Truth, beat my Guy by a pixel of life then droped
Plutoburn
03-30-2005, 03:15 PM
Bad games to Rock Lee, so so player who can't tell the difference between mp and fp gen slaps accused me of autofiring. Go on to say there are no decent/honest players on kaillera anymore like he is some hot shit. Like you can actually beat me :rolleyes: Yeah, you sure are helping, nice going Rock.
Bad games to Rock Lee, so so player who can't tell the difference between mp and fp gen slaps accused me of autofiring. Go on to say there are no decent/honest players on kaillera anymore like he is some hot shit. Like you can actually beat me :rolleyes: Yeah, you sure are helping, nice going Rock.
Don't accuse Plutoburn of Autofire, Rock Lee. He's ALOT better than you are =/
Plutoburn : You should of just pulled out the Ryu on his ass
EveryFlowerFlow
03-30-2005, 03:58 PM
Marriott at the Fountain Blu more autofire Gen goodness, talked alot of shit too to both quinton and myself. one of the few times i'll ever agree with quinton, but yeah that guy was straight ass
EveryFlowerFlow
03-30-2005, 04:03 PM
Bad games to Rock Lee, so so player who can't tell the difference between mp and fp gen slaps accused me of autofiring. Go on to say there are no decent/honest players on kaillera anymore like he is some hot shit. Like you can actually beat me :rolleyes: Yeah, you sure are helping, nice going Rock.
LOL right. ur talking as if u beat me perfect. the first 2 games from 1 round to 2 and in the third game your "MP" slaps where coming out waaaaayyy too fast for them not to be auto.
as for being able to beat u I was winning the 4th game and then u mysteriously drop, go figure. and no axor he isn't
Plutoburn
03-30-2005, 04:10 PM
LOL right. ur talking as if u beat me perfect. the first 2 games from 1 round to 2 and in the third game your "MP" slaps where coming out waaaaayyy too fast for them not to be auto.
as for being able to beat u I was winning the 4th game and then u mysteriously drop, go figure. and no axor he isn't
1. I am saying I am better than you at A3, where on my post did I say I perfect you, if I do, I would've call you a noob.
2. You are accusing me of something you cannot prove, all you have is based on your own observation and your knowledge of the game (more like the lack of).
3. Bull fucking shit. You know I left because I can't stand ignorant accusations.
4. If you want to put your money where your mouth is, let's arrange a time and have observers to see who is the better player. Bring it, I say.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-30-2005, 04:11 PM
im still on DA join up biatch,
also we only played 3 (and a half games) on which I used my 2 worst chars, it's a bit early to talk like u are amazing and shit
EveryFlowerFlow
03-30-2005, 04:17 PM
i'll be on 11 or 12 tonight, i'll try to find a witness, and you 2
are u west or east coast?
Luckychrono777
03-30-2005, 07:12 PM
I'm in :)
i'll be on 11 or 12 tonight, i'll try to find a witness, and you 2
are u west or east coast?
Yo Rock Lee, I know how you play and beleive me you wont beat him. I'm not taking personal shots at you but he's pretty good.
Plus you live in Cali you'll lag :shake:
REPORT: For all you guys reading into this drama, PlutoBurn won a best out of 9 vs Rock Lee.. 5-1 ggs
Luckychrono777
03-30-2005, 11:55 PM
Bad Games to TehOwned, this guy wins the award for biggest lag abuser on kaillera.
EveryFlowerFlow
03-31-2005, 12:20 AM
Yo Rock Lee, I know how you play and beleive me you wont beat him. I'm not taking personal shots at you but he's pretty good.
Plus you live in Cali you'll lag :shake:
REPORT: For all you guys reading into this drama, PlutoBurn won a best out of 9 vs Rock Lee.. 5-1 ggs
yes, i put my foot in my mouth for that one.
on a side note, Co-sign Lucky on TehOwned
Soldier Zero
03-31-2005, 09:09 PM
Bad game with Defcon 4, his style's autofire with Blanka.
It wouldn't have been so obvious if he didn't kept falling for the same moves, ie sim's air throw.
Luckychrono777
03-31-2005, 11:52 PM
^don't forget about spam lk hurricane kick with Akuma. :rofl:
Soldier Zero
04-02-2005, 09:11 PM
Bad games to Lunar, he was about to lose with Gen so he did fierce slaps in the corner and chipped me. :tdown:
gbursine
04-03-2005, 07:06 PM
another one of those games... lol
for everyone's enjoyment
* gb joined the game's partyline!
* kFc joined the game's partyline!
<kFc> damnit
<kFc> i hate fighting you
<gb> =D
<kFc> damn coward
<gb> lol
<kFc> fighting like some buzzard
<kFc> scrapping off me
<gb> cant help it
<gb> its victor
<kFc> no one cares
<kFc> i rue the day i ever fought your ass
<kFc> why do you use that cheap buzzard
<gb> b/c
<gb> i make pple like u happy
<kFc> die
<kFc> damnit
<kFc> all you do is block
<kFc> i cant stand you
<gb> im sorry
<gb> i'll stop
<gb> when you do
<kFc> omg
<gb> wow
<gb> u got ass supered
<gb> that sux
<kFc> damn butt super took all my life
<kFc> how cheap can you be
<kFc> even though i was blocking
<gb> thats why they put throws into the game
<kFc> stupid
<kFc> fuck you