Is CVS2 EO Arcade Perfect? What about MVC2?

[Shankar]

Does anyone know if mvc2 & cvs2 EO for the Xbox are AC perfect?

If not what are the differences?

[SNAAAAKE]

Arcade version of CVS2 is slower then xbox version.
Fuck marvel :tdown:

[SNK Guitarist]

Super Cancels in P Groove as well.

[n817azn]

and most importantly there is no rc'ing. bah.

[The Gadgy]

and most importantly there is no rc'ing. bah.

I dunno man, I think lag might be the biggest difference.

[DreamTR]

Arcade version of CVS2 is flawed. Gadgy, Shankar is not talking about online play, just offline. CVS2 with RCs is a glitch that was taken out of later versions of CVS2. It was not meant to be in there, and completely changes the way the game is played. One RC through a level 3 Super? The game is the most broken of any SF game because if this. (Note I said SF, not Marvel games for those not paying attention.) MVC2 is also faster, and there are certain combos and glitches that you can not do compared to arcade. DC is the best version AFAIK, but you have to ask someone in the MVC2 forums what the precise differences are.

[CrotchMonkey]

wait they took rcs out of later versions of cvs2? then how come everyone is still using rcs? or have they died out?

[Shankar]

Arcade version of CVS2 is flawed. Gadgy, Shankar is not talking about online play, just offline. CVS2 with RCs is a glitch that was taken out of later versions of CVS2. It was not meant to be in there, and completely changes the way the game is played. One RC through a level 3 Super? The game is the most broken of any SF game because if this. (Note I said SF, not Marvel games for those not paying attention.) MVC2 is also faster, and there are certain combos and glitches that you can not do compared to arcade. DC is the best version AFAIK, but you have to ask someone in the MVC2 forums what the precise differences are.

Tanks Jason,
I guess the only True AC version of cvs2 and mc2 is... the Arcade version itself.
Do you know if 3S for the ps2 is AC perfect? will the xbox one be?

peace
JIN

ps- Do you know if Capcom will release Fighting Evo for the AC?
no, right?

[doujinshi_2001]

stuff about RC

Ummm wtf

If it wasn't for RC, half of the cast would not be used...seriously. Without RC this game would be ruled by Blanka, Sagat and Cammy seriously. With RC you can get around a lot of the bullshit that goes around online. It is in no way broken when you can counter it with so many ways the most obvious being throwing and jumping straight up. RC adds a whole new dimension to the game...making everyone but the really low tier (Kyosuke comes to mind) being able to compete with the top tiers.

[CrotchMonkey]

ive never seen a real match full of rcs (maybe i have, i dont know) but a lot of people say how rcs made the game a big turtler fest or something like that.

i dont know where they get that from though, cause when i watch videos of cvs2 from obot64's site, the gameplay seems fast paced to me.

someone care to enlighten me?

[doujinshi_2001]

It has come somewhat more of a turtle fest (IMO this is one of the sole reasons why N groove died in Japan), but it made the game more of a balanced game to speak. It's a good trade off to me.

Dream I'm in no way trying to start shit or anything (you're cool in my book) I'm just talking about what I think about RCs

[CrotchMonkey]

why is it a turtle fest though? like how did rcs do that?

i also heard stuff about people not doing it that much anymore, that the craze has died out because it develops bad habits or something like that.

is that true?

[Havoc]

CvS2 already is a turtle's game. RC didn't make it that way.

RC just kills whatever offense was available in CvS2. Even that doesn't bother me though, becuase offense in CvS2 is so dumb. Walk up Fierce with Cammy, jab rushing with shotos, etc. All of that shit is just retarded.

Anyway, yeah, RC makes characters playable. CvS2 without RCs is horrible. CvS2 with RCs is just bad.

But hell, bad > horrible.

[FMJaguar]

If old CvS2 was as you say, then by comparison the new top tier in CvS2 would be totally undefeatable and there would be no reason to play.

People are overdramatizing what cvs2 was before, we never explored it the whole way before rc came out, and then the game changed. I don't even think we had one national without RC.

I'm not even saying that it would be a good game, just that everyone's rationale for it being a bad game doesn't make any sense.

But regardless, the evaluation is currently underway for the 2005 lineup, if CvS2 stays popular it would probably move to xbox, but i think people would rather just let it move to ps2 while it dies out so we don't need to relearn it just to play it for another 6 months and have it die again anyway. I guess it depends in part on CFJ.

MvC2 need a lot more help as far as examining what does and doesn't work on xbox before we can make a good decision on that. It might end up winning by default since the PS2 version isn't good.

[The Mullah]

i think running jabs with shotos are good. whats wrong with that? its not eactly easy to do unless you're very good with a stick/pad, and its not cheap or anything is it? Dunno, i cant do it, but it looks cool.

[DreamTR]

Doujin wrote:

If it wasn't for RC, half of the cast would not be used...seriously. Without RC this game would be ruled by Blanka, Sagat and Cammy seriously. With RC you can get around a lot of the bullshit that goes around online. It is in no way broken when you can counter it with so many ways the most obvious being throwing and jumping straight up. RC adds a whole new dimension to the game...making everyone but the really low tier (Kyosuke comes to mind) being able to compete with the top tiers.


If this was so true, then why are the same characters winning tourneys and still doing even better than before? Sure, it enhances someone like Honda, but it only enhances C, A, and N. Not every groove gets it; the fact that Sakura/Blanka/Bison A Groove are every scrub's dream team now, and RC with all of them is just plain wrong....your argument about Sagat/Cammy/Blanka does not factor inn the fact that without RC, Sagat and Blanka both have MAJOR problems with certain characters, and Cammy may be stupid, but she still has a defensive weakness to take into consideration. By that argument every game that you believe has dominate characters should have something to make everyone better? RC for ST OG Sagat? Do you have any idea how stupid it is for people to learn RC when it is not going to be in any other SF, and is just a major game breaking glitch? It's sad. So many people just RC electricity with Blanka left and right. There are ways around it, but why should the whole gameplay of SF as we know it be subject to this because of a glitch? I'm sorry, anyway you look at it, RC wake-up electricity should not beat Level 3s, you should not have to walk up through a glitch to throw it, I mean...think logically about this...the game is pure trash at this point...each fighting game is always about 5-7 characters being dominate as it is...this just makes those 5-7 WAY harder to deal with now. GO RC Sakura/Blanka. Great job.

[DaliPicard]

If it were possible I would sig the above post.

[CrotchMonkey]

so why is rc still used? didnt capcom fix it?

[FMJaguar]

so why is rc still used? didnt capcom fix it?

They fixed it, but not for DC and PS2. Since MvC2 didn't come out on live we lost the garunteed supply of xbox players, and at this moment we're in a position where we have to either use the DC/PS2 version and 'ban' RC, or use the xbox version that not everyone has access to, if we were to fix the problem ourselves, from a directors standpoint the whining and policing that is gonna go with either choice is too much to handle.

This is further complicated by the fact that AE/3s came out on PS2 first, and that CFE is coming out on PS2 before Xbox. IMO what happens is going to come down to whether the online experience is enough to get people to switch consoles. That is why i said in my last post that people will probably just let cvs2 go to ps2 as is, then die if cfj is even passable.

[CrotchMonkey]

but would people actually not use rc? it just feels like an odd situation to me cause theres lots of people that seem to support rc and a lot of other people say it ruined it along with capcom fixing it for xbox.

[gl0ry]

The fact is that most people grew along with the cvs2 scene as it started and RC is something they have learned to adjust to or do. The fact you take out one of the biggest things in a game just leaves people feeling empty. If cvs2 was like the xbox version from the start it would be the opposite way around. People would think rc's are broken. People now just put up with it and have already developed strategies around it or even baiting rc's to punish people. It's already a part of the game so it's pointless to take it out 2 or more years after the initial release... That brings to point another view people look at. The unblockables on 3s.... people grew with the game and know it's part of the game... hence a reason why people hate the DC ver. or the 2nd version that was released for the arcades.

[FMJaguar]

Well like i said it's not a clear cut case, if xbox cvs2 was re-released as cvs2 pro for ps2 I would say 100% this is what we're going with. But we have kind of a mess in terms of who is playing what game already. We don't really have the support to say 'ok we are using this version everywhere', most people are just going with the best they can do already.

[mike729079]

cvs2 " pro " would be shit. p groove super cancels are fucking gay.

and no matter how much sagat RCs, he's still gonna get murdered by balrog

[lung]

Although this is pretty old....


I don't care what you guys try to say about CVS2 being broken now with RCs. AS gl0ry said, the players ADJUSTED. You sit there and try to act like it is so easy to RC everything! AND ITS NOT! Sure blanka balls, but RCing shit like electricty does take skill to pull off! Personally I do not even use a groove with a roll. And you wanna tell me that only people RCing win tournaments than you are a moron! I'd love to see you try to RC some P or K groove player and watch them parry/just defend the stupid crap you are trying to do.