-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

[Nightwing1990]

Omg I just started jogging today and I realized my cardio is in bad shape my heart starts hurting and i get out of breath quick, so i was wondering is that normal for someone who hasn't worked out their cardio or should i go see a doctor

[Soldier Zero]

Omg I just started jogging today and I realized my cardio is in bad shape my heart starts hurting and i get out of breath quick, so i was wondering is that normal for someone who hasn't worked out their cardio or should i go see a doctor

It's normal, do it regularly and it won't be so bad.

[masher]

The bag trick doesn't burn fat. You sweat out a bunch of water. So you weigh in with less water weight....then you go put the water weight back on before the actually competition.

So is your goal to drop water? Or burn Fat?

Your heart rate increases with activity to get oxygen to your body. It has little to nothing to do with external temperature.

We are warm blooded.
burn fat:sweat:

oh man i had my b-day and broke my diet on Saturday and Sunday!

well back to the gym for my fatass!:arazz:

[Fadedsun303]

Does anyone have any diets and exercises for a thinner guy with a fast metabolism that wants to gain weight?

Right now I'm at 133ish. I used to be 120, so I did manage to put on some weight. I exercise and lift free weights 3 or 4 times a week. I do stuff like push ups and sit ups, leg exercises, as well as random kung fu training that I remember from years ago. I have a bag at home that I work as well sometimes.

I've been taking this whey protein when I wake up and before I go to sleep. I'm more concerned about the diet, but some exercising tips would help. Breakfast is usually my biggest meal. Oatmeal, cereal, banana, granola. Stuff like that for breakfast. Lunch, I usually find something at my work. Wraps or sandwhiches. Dinner is pretty random. I'm just looking for specific foods that I should be eating, and when, so I can find something I can stick with.

[fishjie]

here's my two cents. i was a skinny guy with a fast metabolism too. i lifted weights for years and nothing happened. thats because i was also a computer science major, so i didnt eat or sleep very much. oops. i didnt realize how important that was, because i had no clue what i was doing.

i'd say for naturally skinny guys diet (LOTS of protein, especially if you are naturally skinny) and getting lots of rest are key. the workouts dont really matter that much. just do compound exercises that work lots of muscles, like bench and squat. isolating muscles when you are skinny is pointless imo, because there's nothing to isolate. you can do that later.

what happened with me is that about two years ago i got into the bad habit of eating TWO mcdonalds big breakfasts every day, along with burgers and steaks and such for lunch and dinner (this was not on purpose, it just worked out that way). i also started sleeping more. basically, due to the massively increased protein intake and rest, i did get bigger and stronger, but i would not recommend it, because i have a big gut now too.

so bottom line, lots of protein (chicken breast is a good healthy source) and lots of rest and drink lots of water. as long as you go to the gym, you will start to notice a difference.

[coco_j]

^ Whoa. Very similar to whats happened with me. I was just so concerned with getting enough protein that I would eat anything. And that included a fair bit of McDonalds. A quater pounder has like 20 something grams.. heh.

But yeah, definetly got bigger, but developed a bit of a gut which I'm now trying to lose.

[masher]

with the 2000cal diet,how many fat gram can some1 have?

you bastards have trouble gaining weight? motherf%#&@*:annoy:

"I drink a milkshake and my ass jiggles for a week!"

[Reckless Fire]

On the special features on the 300 DVD the coach said he would give the spartans a different workout everyday so the body would not become accustomed to the same workout. So would it work the same way if I went into the gym and did this for bi's this for shoulders that for legs....etc. And the next day continue to work basically the same muscles just with different exercises. Or is it better to just stick to a plan?

[Hoonyo]

put me in that "ate too much mcdonalds because i was skinny and now i have a gut" category.

i do some aerobics, but i try to keep my heart rate below 140 because it's supposed to burn a higher fat % this way. i walk for about an hour or use the elliptical machine for about half an hour. i worry that if i go >140 i'll burn too many calories and lose too much weight. i only weigh around 140lbs. is what i'm doing stupid?

[masher]

my workout:
benchpress 260x40*
pec press 115x20*
lat pulldown160x20*
chest press160x20*
Abductor 300x20*
Adductor 300x20*

elliptical 30mins(about 500 cals)
crunches 30

and maybe some ddr(1hr about 500 cals)

*all on machines

[SNAAAAKE]

opinion on "no explode" ? health is the obvious concern here...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

I am 5'11" and 155. trying to gain about 20-25ish more. MUSCLE of course..just wanna look more fit and stuff like that.

[HeaT]

opinion on "no explode" ? health is the obvious concern here...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

I am 5'11" and 155. trying to gain about 20-25ish more. MUSCLE of course..just wanna look more fit and stuff like that.

have you already been working out for a long time...or are you just starting and want 20-25 lbs more muscle???

im outi

Roberth

[Soldier Zero]

opinion on "no explode" ? health is the obvious concern here...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

I am 5'11" and 155. trying to gain about 20-25ish more. MUSCLE of course..just wanna look more fit and stuff like that.

Don't expect it to happen any time soon.

[masher]

my workout:
benchpress 260x40*
pec press 115x20*
lat pulldown160x20*
chest press160x20*
Abductor 300x20*
Adductor 300x20*

elliptical 30mins(about 500 cals)
crunches 30

and maybe some ddr(1hr about 500 cals)

*all on machines
when i dont cheat
i eat mostly special k or cereal like it w/skim milk.
chicken breast,turkey lunch meat,and alot of water.
just weight myself and i lost 2lbs!:arazz:
feel free to critique my workout/meal plan.

[HeaT]

when i dont cheat
i eat mostly special k or cereal like it w/skim milk.
chicken breast,turkey lunch meat,and alot of water.
just weight myself and i lost 2lbs!:arazz:
feel free to critique my workout/meal plan.

if you want some good programs...search for this...

"zanac exerciseguide magnussays"

and just a view pages back like there is some talk about meanl plans/diets...

im outi

Roberth

[Reckless Fire]

I'm almost out of my Bally's whey protein. Any suggestions on what is as good or better to buy to replace it?

[Soldier Zero]

I'm almost out of my Bally's whey protein. Any suggestions on what is as good or better to buy to replace it?

Never tried Bally's whey, but I use Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard.

[fernando's nuts]

opinion on "no explode" ? health is the obvious concern here...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

I am 5'11" and 155. trying to gain about 20-25ish more. MUSCLE of course..just wanna look more fit and stuff like that.

Thers waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better stuff out there as far as NO supplements go, look up White Flood, or Shock Therapy (eat something about an hr before u take shock therapy or ull have the runs).

[running_gag]

Omg I just started jogging today and I realized my cardio is in bad shape my heart starts hurting and i get out of breath quick, so i was wondering is that normal for someone who hasn't worked out their cardio or should i go see a doctor

no its not normal for your heart to hurt...

it would be normal for your legs and knees and joints to hurt.


You might have some underlying condition, could be due to poor diet and lack of exercise.

[Soldier Zero]

So can anyone touch their toes without bending/arching their back?

[DeathReaper47]

Omg I just started jogging today and I realized my cardio is in bad shape my heart starts hurting and i get out of breath quick, so i was wondering is that normal for someone who hasn't worked out their cardio or should i go see a doctor

Had the same problem last year. Went to the doctor half a dozen times for that kind of thing. You just gotta keep working out. Its a muscular thing(thats what the professional doctors said anyway >_>). The more you build it up, the less pain you'll feel.

[J-ride]

opinion on "no explode" ? health is the obvious concern here...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

I am 5'11" and 155. trying to gain about 20-25ish more. MUSCLE of course..just wanna look more fit and stuff like that.

In high school I put on about 30 lbs of lean muscle in a year, and I did it by eating twice as much complex carbs as protien, and adding fat to my diet to put on the poundage. I also at the time did a power lifter's workout routine, (Low reps, HEAVY weight, spotting partner NECESSARY) and just pounded it out, make sure you are eating good amount of protien, and if you still aren't gaining add more carbs and fat to the diet, very rarely do any guys not eat enough protien, usually what I see is guys eat WAY too much protien, then go on a low carb diet thinking that your body is going to be able to get bigger WHILE dieting, sorry it isn't going to happen. Your body needs the energy from the complex carbs to really put on size. But don't get in too big of a rush, as long as you are getting stronger and getting really sore from your workouts, you are probably gaining, even if the scale doesn't show it. Also, you can ignore most of the workout routines and do a couple of heavy sets for each muscle group. I never took any supplements, I tried them, but creatine makes me really moody, and protien shakes will make me sick if I take them for more than a month.

[Reckless Fire]

So can anyone touch their toes without bending/arching their back?

I can.

[Ryad]

So can anyone touch their toes without bending/arching their back?

I can not... and I intend to work on my flexibility on one of my off days soon

[Soldier Zero]

It's pretty tough, my fingers are about 2 inches away.

[SlayerofBodom]

here's my two cents. i was a skinny guy with a fast metabolism too. i lifted weights for years and nothing happened. thats because i was also a computer science major, so i didnt eat or sleep very much. oops. i didnt realize how important that was, because i had no clue what i was doing.

i'd say for naturally skinny guys diet (LOTS of protein, especially if you are naturally skinny) and getting lots of rest are key. the workouts dont really matter that much. just do compound exercises that work lots of muscles, like bench and squat. isolating muscles when you are skinny is pointless imo, because there's nothing to isolate. you can do that later.

what happened with me is that about two years ago i got into the bad habit of eating TWO mcdonalds big breakfasts every day, along with burgers and steaks and such for lunch and dinner (this was not on purpose, it just worked out that way). i also started sleeping more. basically, due to the massively increased protein intake and rest, i did get bigger and stronger, but i would not recommend it, because i have a big gut now too.

so bottom line, lots of protein (chicken breast is a good healthy source) and lots of rest and drink lots of water. as long as you go to the gym, you will start to notice a difference.

This man knows what he's talking about. I completely agree. I was/am in the same boat, being a very tall, skinny guy with long arms and legs.

One of the biggest mistakes I made, for many, many years, was over-exercising.

Three hard days a week in the gym is all your body should be doing, especially if one's muscle structure is long and lean, and the bones are non-dense (like mine).

Now, you can spend another two or three days a week doing lighter exercise (push-ups, sit-ups, lots of cardio, stretching), or something like swimming, that's fine.

But over-exercising; anything where you're exercising the same muscle groups with the same heavy weights for five days a week or more, will lead to limited, if any, gains.

As soon as I realized this, I gained about twenty pounds of muscle in six months, and my overall results improved dramatically.

[StuartHayden]

no its not normal for your heart to hurt...

it would be normal for your legs and knees and joints to hurt.


You might have some underlying condition, could be due to poor diet and lack of exercise.

I actually had had to stop working out so much when I was 18 because I have a heart condition ( I was born w/o the left ventricle of my heart, exciting huh?) and I was pushing myself too hard. :sad: And my doctor either told me to quit working out so much, or have severe heart issues with in the next 5 years.:wasted: So...I stopped working out and went back to playing video games. XD

It's been 2 years since then though...and I've been wanting to get back into shape but I hadn't done it in sooo long.

So aside, from jogging/helluh water/protien shakes/creatine and all that jazz...any good at home excercises anyone recomends? I have a weight set my dad gave me..it's not very good..but it's something.

-SH

[Soldier Zero]

I actually had had to stop working out so much when I was 18 because I have a heart condition ( I was born w/o the left ventricle of my heart, exciting huh?) and I was pushing myself too hard. :sad: And my doctor either told me to quit working out so much, or have severe heart issues with in the next 5 years.:wasted: So...I stopped working out and went back to playing video games. XD

It's been 2 years since then though...and I've been wanting to get back into shape but I hadn't done it in sooo long.

So aside, from jogging/helluh water/protien shakes/creatine and all that jazz...any good at home excercises anyone recomends? I have a weight set my dad gave me..it's not very good..but it's something.

-SH

A weight set's a weight set, but how you use it can go a long way. With a bar and plates or only dumbbells, you can work everything with simply having those.

[RoninChaos]

Yo, a buddy of mine started taking Hydroxycut when he works out and he said it helped him with energy and he lost weight by doing the same shit he's always been doing. Does this stuff really work?

[masher]

if y
"zanac exerciseguide magnussays"



im outi

Roberth

i googled that word and nothing

how many cal should I burn a day?

[HeaT]

i googled that word and nothing

how many cal should I burn a day?

haha dont google it, search for it in the search function on this site yo...

im outi

Roberth

[Ryad]

I actually had had to stop working out so much when I was 18 because I have a heart condition ( I was born w/o the left ventricle of my heart, exciting huh?) and I was pushing myself too hard. :sad: And my doctor either told me to quit working out so much, or have severe heart issues with in the next 5 years.:wasted: So...I stopped working out and went back to playing video games. XD

It's been 2 years since then though...and I've been wanting to get back into shape but I hadn't done it in sooo long.

So aside, from jogging/helluh water/protien shakes/creatine and all that jazz...any good at home excercises anyone recomends? I have a weight set my dad gave me..it's not very good..but it's something.

-SH

Ask the doctor if its ok for you work out without putting too much stress on the heart... I'm pretty sure you can make working out a non-strenous exercise for the heart, by giving yourself a bit more rest, less weights etc... but consult a doctor before you do anything

[HeaT]

Yo, a buddy of mine started taking Hydroxycut when he works out and he said it helped him with energy and he lost weight by doing the same shit he's always been doing. Does this stuff really work?

i know for sure the old formula hydroxycut worked, and it worked without you even having to do anything...im not sure about the new formula one cause i do not know of anyone who is taking it...

im outi

Roberth

[masher]

pg 159 and 160 has info about hydroxycut hardcore i dont know about the normal hydroxy.

anyway
how many cal should I burn a day?(safely)
and let say i ate pizza last night how long does it take for your body to add the cal and fat to your body so you know if you gained any weight?

[Rico!]

hmm... i noticed while flexing in the mirror that all the muscles on my right (dominant) side are bigger than the left. Any way to fix this?

[running_gag]

hmm... i noticed while flexing in the mirror that all the muscles on my right (dominant) side are bigger than the left. Any way to fix this?


work both sides evenly with dumbells, if your right side wants to do 2 more reps but your left can't, just don't do those 2 more reps

don't use barbells, your right side will overcompensate and get more of a workout

[Ryad]

here are some benefits of flexibility while we are still on this topic :rolleyes:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FrYlNNy929Y

[Zero]

Need your assistance on something:

I'm trying to find a website that provides unbiased and extensive reviews of dietary supplements. I've been trying to look for one, and I'll the ones I see sell the product that they are "reviewing". For obvious reasons, I do not trust their reviews.

So I need a site that does not sell dietary supplements, but reviews them.

[RoninChaos]

i know for sure the old formula hydroxycut worked, and it worked without you even having to do anything...im not sure about the new formula one cause i do not know of anyone who is taking it...

im outi

Roberth

Yeah, that's what I figured. I looked back a few pages and everybody is talking about the old shit with Ephedra. I'm wondering about the new stuff. Anybody know?

[The Mullah]

Yeah, that's what I figured. I looked back a few pages and everybody is talking about the old shit with Ephedra. I'm wondering about the new stuff. Anybody know?

Without having done any research and going on what i've heard from being in the gym for the last few yrs, fat metabolisers like hydroxycut used to have ephedra in it before it was banned.

ephedra is a derivative of speed, it soups up your metabolism so that you burn more calories all the time, so even doing nothing you'd be burning more fat than you would normally. It really works, but being a derivative of speed, it can leave you feeling wired whilst on it.

Nowadays hydroxycut has herbal stuff in it like greentea extract, weird plant extracts, probably caffine etc. They wont work like ephidra did, but it should help a little bit. Don't knowm uch abouth ydroxycut hardcore, i havent seen it on sale in the UK. I've been on lean system 7 for about a week and i havel ost a fat but its hardt o say whether it's due to diet or whether its due to the suppiment. I say give the new stuff a shot, it can't hurt, and it'll probably make your mate more motivated to diet and cardio properly even if it's a placebo effect.

[Monte]

I started working out again and used hydroxycut hardcore, that shit is weak. I just finished the bottle so I'm gonna take a week off of using fat burners and try Hot Rox. Biotest supplements usually bring the fiya. On a semi-related note I can't believe grocery stores and pharmacies have Biotest's Redline drink stocked by all the other commercial energy drinks, that stuff is hardcore.

[masher]

I'm about to finish my HydroHardcore and gonna try Lipo 6(big sale this monday),whats the verdict about that?

anyway
how many cal should I burn a day?(safely)
and let say i ate pizza last night how long does it take for your body to add the cal and fat to your body so you know if you gained any weight?

hmm... i noticed while flexing in the mirror that all the muscles on my right (dominant) side are bigger than the left. Any way to fix this?

start jacking off with your left hand?:wonder:

Yeah, that's what I figured. I looked back a few pages and everybody is talking about the old shit with Ephedra. I'm wondering about the new stuff. Anybody know?
I'm eatting pretty healthy and working out almost everyday and talking Hydrohardcore and lost weight,I say it works but don't expect magic,you still gotta do the basics.(workout,eat good etc)
see post #3953

Word on the streets ephedra was unbanned in Illinois.

[HeaT]

Yeah, that's what I figured. I looked back a few pages and everybody is talking about the old shit with Ephedra. I'm wondering about the new stuff. Anybody know?

supposedly they took ephedra out of the new formula, so like you actually have to make some effort to lose weight now, instead of just sitting there and losing weight...basically the new formula is not as effective but will still do the job with more effort having need to be put into it...

im outi

Roberth

[Rico!]

start jacking off with your left hand?:wonder:.

Well, its even my non jacking muscles that are smaller, like my left trap, left lat, left delt etc...

work both sides evenly with dumbells, if your right side wants to do 2 more reps but your left can't, just don't do those 2 more reps

don't use barbells, your right side will overcompensate and get more of a workout

thanks

[MagnusMadness]

What's up guys....haven't posted in here in a while.

I'm training for a powerlifting meet coming up in march. I squatted 435 last saturday for a double. I know it's not a lot but it's a personal best for me and I have a lot of room to grow.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Anybody taking NO-Xplode? Pros and Cons? And why are you not supposed to shake it?

[Soldier Zero]

What's up guys....haven't posted in here in a while.

I'm training for a powerlifting meet coming up in march. I squatted 435 last saturday for a double. I know it's not a lot but it's a personal best for me and I have a lot of room to grow.

Nice man, I haven't tried doing max for squats in a while. How's your deadlift recently?

[MagnusMadness]

Nice man, I haven't tried doing max for squats in a while. How's your deadlift recently?

Hard to say. I'm pulling with a sumo stance now. So I've been doing a lot of submaximal work and hammering form. My hips don't rise as fast as they used to and I'm becoming more flexible.

I've been doing speed pulls with 315 recently and I've gotten pretty good speed with that. I'm betting I might not be at 500 yet but well over 4.

[Soldier Zero]

Hard to say. I'm pulling with a sumo stance now. So I've been doing a lot of submaximal work and hammering form. My hips don't rise as fast as they used to and I'm becoming more flexible.

I've been doing speed pulls with 315 recently and I've gotten pretty good speed with that. I'm betting I might not be at 500 yet but well over 4.

Yeah, I'm remember you did 405 before for a few reps, good progress. :tup:

[Goose]

Anybody taking NO-Xplode? Pros and Cons? And why are you not supposed to shake it?

it's got some caffeine (sorta contradicts the CEE). it's not groundbreaking stuff or a quick-fix/cure-all. it's pretty much a jumble of all things a beginner should be take at their 1st-2nd year point. if you've been lifting for years alreayd; then skip it and take what you should already have figured out what works for you. but if you're still a rook, then give it a shot. and like all stuff; you gota cycle it.

[Soldier Zero]

Moved into my dorm Saturday and this morning I weighed myself. My peak weight was 165 lbs., I'm 155 now. :sad:

It sucks to have dropped so quickly. I'm going to go pick up some maltodextrose, fish oil caps, creatine maybe, and some more whey. I can't stand being this low, my undershirts are ridiculously loose on me.

[masher]

Moved into my dorm Saturday and this morning I weighed myself. My peak weight was 165 lbs., I'm 155 now. :sad:


eat a damn burger bitch!

I think I just gained 3 lbs...:arazz:

anyway what up with Lipo6...any1 try that before and is that raw apple cider vinger shit really good for you?:wasted:

[Shukuda]

I bought some dumb bells today, at least that's a first step.

Are dumb bells as effective as machines for strengthing? We have this cheap machine in the house I hate using but it looks useful. I was looking at exercises for triceps and the "tricep pulldowns" on the machine feels much more natural rather than working with dumbbell "kickbacks".

[Soldier Zero]

eat a damn burger bitch!

I think I just gained 3 lbs...:arazz:

I tried to eat clean mostly, apparently that was bad, lol. I went to the grocery store and bought a bunch of stuff to eat when I'm not in the dining hall. Hopefully I can do a good bulk.

I bought some dumb bells today, at least that's a first step.

Are dumb bells as effective as machines for strengthing? We have this cheap machine in the house I hate using but it looks useful. I was looking at exercises for triceps and the "tricep pulldowns" on the machine feels much more natural rather than working with dumbbell "kickbacks".

I say better than machines if you have more than one weight to use. Kickbacks aren't that great IMO, do some overhead presses.

[Reckless Fire]

Does anyone know what dumbbell circles are?

[MagnusMadness]

eat a damn burger bitch!

I think I just gained 3 lbs...:arazz:

anyway what up with Lipo6...any1 try that before and is that raw apple cider vinger shit really good for you?:wasted:

lipo6 is actually quite good. Not your run of the mill "diet pill", it's actually an ECA stack IIRC. I took one with my pre workout shake not too long ago and I was JACKED.....fuckin tore the weights up.



On a side note. Maxxed out on deadlifts saturday. I pulled 475. I knew I was close to 500 but didn't think I'd be able to get that much weight off the ground. You guys would not believe how hard it is to lock out with much heavier weights. My fucking lats and CALVES are sore!!

[masher]

which ver of lipo 6 should I get? the liquid or the other?

[MagnusMadness]

which ver of lipo 6 should I get? the liquid or the other?

I've only seen the other.

[Biggzy]

lipo6 is actually quite good. Not your run of the mill "diet pill", it's actually an ECA stack IIRC. I took one with my pre workout shake not too long ago and I was JACKED.....fuckin tore the weights up.



On a side note. Maxxed out on deadlifts saturday. I pulled 475. I knew I was close to 500 but didn't think I'd be able to get that much weight off the ground. You guys would not believe how hard it is to lock out with much heavier weights. My fucking lats and CALVES are sore!!

You are so strong. You must be ripped.

[Reckless Fire]

When I do a french press (when you have the barbell behind your head and you lift it over your head using your triceps.) my elbows/elbow ligaments really hurt. Is this normal? Should I fight through the pain or will I do permanit damage or something.

[fernando's nuts]

which ver of lipo 6 should I get? the liquid or the other?

check out bodybuilding.com

their are reviews/logs on various fat burners, give it a look, its the cheapest place to score supps, that Ive found.

edit:their forums section

[MagnusMadness]

You are so strong. You must be ripped.

do you even workout? I haven't seen any pics of you before.

[masher]

I've only seen the other.

normal lipo 6 (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6.html)
lipo x liquid (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6x.html)

i went with x since it was only $5 more,newer,improved?, and I like liquid gel pills.:wonder:

[MagnusMadness]

normal lipo 6 (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6.html)
lipo x liquid (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/lipo6x.html)

i went with x since it was only $5 more,newer,improved?, and I like liquid gel pills.:wonder:

as long as the ingredients are similar/identical, I guess it doesn't matter.

[terracotta]

i'm sitting on 150 lbs (BMI at 25), and i wanna get to.. say 170. how much would i have to multiply my current food intake by to hit that target?

[Biggzy]

do you even workout? I haven't seen any pics of you before.

Yeah, I bench 600 and deadlift monster trucks.

[google]

I just stopped by to make a comment on bulking. If you're going to do it, do it moderately. Don't try to eat yourself to death. I really believe it all boils down to genetics.

I used to eat more to bulk up. Sure I gained weight - some fat, some muscle. I lost all that weight, because I had to stop working out. Once I started again, I changed my diet and my regimen. I went back to my bodyweight before I stopped, without bulking. Which didn't surprise me too much. But I soon surpassed that weight by 10 pounds. I'd ended up gaining 20+ in 3-4 months. That's not bad.

Plus I see way too many guys bulk up and stay fat, or just bulky. Then they try taking some crazy fat burner. Which another thing I wouldn't recommend to anyone. Ever.

Don't rush it. Be patient.

[Soldier Zero]

Eh, I don't binge on the junk food when I bulk. Rarely even when I don't.

I just increase the amount of carbs and protein from what I was originally taking in, nothing where I eat til my gut is about to explode, lol.

[HeaT]

When I do a french press (when you have the barbell behind your head and you lift it over your head using your triceps.) my elbows/elbow ligaments really hurt. Is this normal? Should I fight through the pain or will I do permanit damage or something.

i would just say ditch the exercise i used to do them but there are so many other tricept exercises...

one reason is it could be at the position where you are holding your elbows and locking them there...it just depends how you perform the exercise...if you still want to do that particular motion, try using dumbells instead, it should elivate some of the stress...you can hold the dumbells like you normally would the bar or with a hammer grip hold...

im outi

Roberth

[fernando's nuts]

Yeah, I bench 600 and deadlift monster trucks.

ur shits retarded, stfu, an go whine about marvel more

[Biggzy]

ur shits retarded, stfu, an go whine about marvel more

Nice post, it almost even makes sense.

[fernando's nuts]

A fifth grader can comprehend it, pls don't try to go that route you'll get squashed, take your "hate"/bitterness elsewhere, thanks!

[Biggzy]

A fifth grader can comprehend it, pls don't try to go that route you'll get squashed, take your "hate"/bitterness elsewhere, thanks!

You're right. I'm sure a fifth grader can comprehend those sentence fragments. Take YOUR shit somewhere else. This thread is about ripping on MagnusMadness, if you're not gonna do that, then get the fuck out.

[MagnusMadness]

You're right. I'm sure a fifth grader can comprehend those sentence fragments. Take YOUR shit somewhere else. This thread is about ripping on MagnusMadness, if you're not gonna do that, then get the fuck out.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:



Somewhere deep down, I knew this all along. I don't even like giving advice here anymore.

[coco_j]

I dont hate you magnus. I love you. I love allll of you! :)

[Soldier Zero]

Indeed, love for all who pump iron.

On another note, I forgot to wash my shaker and thermis with soap Monday. Today I sniffed them, that has to be one of the most horrific smells I've experienced.

[coco_j]

I used to have a bucket of water I'd rinse my handheld blender in. Didnt change that shit for about a week one time, and man.... that was some fucked up shit.

[BrazilionBH]

Just pee in your blender for added chromium supplementation.

[BrazilionBH]

This is what I look like now a days.Because I have to pay for school and dont have time or money to goto the gym.So all I do are push ups and pull ups and maybe bball sometimes for cardy yo whats up boiiiii.


http://a824.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/m_0708ba75af830c58ef79ab9f8d520427.jpg


And yes I built that arcade machine in the backround.

[Biggzy]

This is what I look like now a days.Because I have to pay for school and dont have time or money to goto the gym.So all I do are push ups and pull ups and maybe bball sometimes for cardy yo whats up boiiiii.


http://a824.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/m_0708ba75af830c58ef79ab9f8d520427.jpg


And yes I built that arcade machine in the backround.

Your nipples have good definition.

[Soldier Zero]

This is what I look like now a days.Because I have to pay for school and dont have time or money to goto the gym.So all I do are push ups and pull ups and maybe bball sometimes for cardy yo whats up boiiiii.


http://a824.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/m_0708ba75af830c58ef79ab9f8d520427.jpg


And yes I built that arcade machine in the backround.

More pics of the arcade machine.

How many push ups and pull ups do you do?

[MagnusMadness]

This is what I look like now a days.Because I have to pay for school and dont have time or money to goto the gym.So all I do are push ups and pull ups and maybe bball sometimes for cardy yo whats up boiiiii.


http://a824.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/m_0708ba75af830c58ef79ab9f8d520427.jpg


And yes I built that arcade machine in the backround.

your chest is THAT big and all you do are pushups? you are a lucky sonuva bitch

[mr. newbie]

magnus can you help me modify your plan to a bit?

Version 1.0
Upper:
Bench Press (can i do them on the floor?)
Bent Rows (can anything be substituted here? i've been doing it in all my routines)
Seated DB Military press
Close Grip Lat pulldowns (no machine to do this on)
ACCESSORY:
Incline flies/Reverse flies Superset- are bent over db flies ok?

Lower:
Back Squats (my dumbbells only hold 35lbs. it's not a problem for my legs and just seems to tire out my already worked arm muscles. should i just do a million reps?)

Romanian Deadlifts

Lunges (stationary, step out..lunge...step back....repeat with other leg for desired reps)

[coco_j]

How many push ups and pull ups do you do?

your chest is THAT big and all you do are pushups? you are a lucky sonuva bitch

Yes. Please answer, cos thats pretty crazy.

[MagnusMadness]

magnus can you help me modify your plan to a bit?

Version 1.0
Upper:
Bench Press (can i do them on the floor?)
Bent Rows (can anything be substituted here? i've been doing it in all my routines)
Seated DB Military press
Close Grip Lat pulldowns (no machine to do this on)
ACCESSORY:
Incline flies/Reverse flies Superset- are bent over db flies ok?

Lower:
Back Squats (my dumbbells only hold 35lbs. it's not a problem for my legs and just seems to tire out my already worked arm muscles. should i just do a million reps?)

Romanian Deadlifts

Lunges (stationary, step out..lunge...step back....repeat with other leg for desired reps)


you need to go to a gym if at all possible. There's only so much you can do for your legs with 35lb dumbells.

[Truong]

I doubt his chest is that big from just doing push ups. Most likely did a set of 20-30 to get the blood flowing, you know, the "pump" before taking the pics, lol.

I know my chest is at least twice its normal size whenever I do push ups and get that pump feeling. For some reason, they get the blood flowing to your chest much better than benching.

[BrazilionBH]

your chest is THAT big and all you do are pushups? you are a lucky sonuva bitch
No thats all I do as of now. I used to work out at the gym till I hurt my shoulder then I had to stop.But pushups are essential in making your chest not only stronger but more defined. See when I stoped benching cause of my shoulder I had to just do push ups to try and keep my chest in shape but what I found when I came back to doing bench presses was that I was even stronger. This is cause your body has to adapt to new exercises and grow. So the change from your basic 10 8 6 4 bench to 4 sets of pushups till failure is a good shock to your muscles.

[b1gazn]

snip

looking sexy

[BrazilionBH]

Yes. Please answer, cos thats pretty crazy.

Hah. The pullups though are serious muscle builders. I can only do 15-17 on a good day. But again if you do 4 sets till failure they will definatley make your joints bigger on your arms and add width and meat to your lats. This in turn will make you all around stronger at whatever upper body exercise your going to do.

But also there is another philosophy behind pushups and pull ups, and thats to just do them evryday when you get allitle window of time to get your body used to the exercise. This worked for me with benchpresses back in the day so I figure it will work the same as other exercises.

P.S. when the hell did srk go microsoft word 2007

[mr. newbie]

you need to go to a gym if at all possible. There's only so much you can do for your legs with 35lb dumbells.

until i get a new job i can't afford it. i have tried going into a sqaut and jumping when i rise. it sounds stupid but its actually kinda hard (for me)

[BrazilionBH]

until i get a new job i can't afford it. i have tried going into a sqaut and jumping when i rise. it sounds stupid but its actually kinda hard (for me)

Actually thats pretty tough for anyone. Just see if you can do 100 squats with just your bodyweight and if you can then your ready to try squats. The thing with legs in my opinion is that when we work them to hard then they hurt and even just walking on them is a pain, so with legs I just go for 6 sets plus the cardio I do which is plenty for me.

[BrazilionBH]

Oh and about the arcade machine I had to get rid of it because of to many problems.

[BrazilionBH]

magnus can you help me modify your plan to a bit?

Version 1.0
Upper:
Bench Press (can i do them on the floor?)
Bent Rows (can anything be substituted here? i've been doing it in all my routines)
Seated DB Military press
Close Grip Lat pulldowns (no machine to do this on)
ACCESSORY:
Incline flies/Reverse flies Superset- are bent over db flies ok?

Lower:
Back Squats (my dumbbells only hold 35lbs. it's not a problem for my legs and just seems to tire out my already worked arm muscles. should i just do a million reps?)

Romanian Deadlifts

Lunges (stationary, step out..lunge...step back....repeat with other leg for desired reps)


Since you only have 35lb weights just super set with push ups and flys that will get you going.

[BrazilionBH]

Me a year ago doing a little dbicep.

Ill take another one soon showing how much wider my lats are.
http://a595.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/m_11d4dcaba8de7d07f98739b39537793a.jpg

[Ryad]

you know brazilionBH... I thought I'd let you know that there is a small Edit button which would have came in handy instead of posting 4 times in a row... just a heads up so you dont get flamed...

[BrazilionBH]

just trying to keep the thread alive.

[masher]

post moar nip & cab pics then ^

how long does it take for your body to process fat/cal so you know if you gained anything?

[Angry Black]

hey does anybody know a good site for ordering gym equipment, particulary a stable bench that can be positoned from either 0 to 90 degrees?

[BrazilionBH]

post moar nip & cab pics then ^

how long does it take for your body to process fat/cal so you know if you gained anything?

well you wont know if you have gained anything cause when you work out your burning fat and building muscle so its really hard to tell right away from sight or weighing yourself. And its protein and carbohydrates you wanna be processing, you wanna burn fat and calories.

P.S.
No more nipple pics yet. I will get some new ones up soon from my wet t shirt contest.

[BrazilionBH]

hey does anybody know a good site for ordering gym equipment, particulary a stable bench that can be positoned from either 0 to 90 degrees?

No but your best bet is to just go to a store like http://www.playitagainsports.com/ or whatever your local pre used sporting goods store is called.

[Reckless Fire]

After doing reverse curls, wrist curls and reverse wrist curls are your wrists supposed to hurt or just the forearm? Because my wrists(joints) feel like crap. Should I see a doctor?

[VruS]

hey does anybody know a good site for ordering gym equipment, particulary a stable bench that can be positoned from either 0 to 90 degrees?

my neighbour was throwing out his bench, I copped it for free! try craigslist or thrift stores. They'll usually sell em for cheap. (as in hundreds of dollars cheaper)

[Soldier Zero]

After doing reverse curls, wrist curls and reverse wrist curls are your wrists supposed to hurt or just the forearm? Because my wrists(joints) feel like crap. Should I see a doctor?

Well you probably overworked them and you should know doing all that doesn't work your forearms. Your wrist doesn't have muscle to be working out.

[Reckless Fire]

Well you probably overworked them and you should know doing all that doesn't work your forearms. Your wrist doesn't have muscle to be working out.

If they don't work the forearms what do they work?

[Soldier Zero]

If they don't work the forearms what do they work?

Nothing, lol.

[fishjie]

hmm i thought wrist curls worked forearms too. i took a look online, and apparently they are an isolation exercise for the wrist flexor, which is apparently the inner forearm.

[bill_rizer]

Zero is just joking with you guys, curls do work your forearms, it works better for some than others, deadlifts are also good for your forearms.

[mr. newbie]

what do you guys do about eating on the go? the easy answer is "don't eat fast food" but in reality, it's very very difficult to do so 100% of the time. it's STUPID how unhealthy just about everything is.

i know everyone isn't a calorie counter like me but we're all health conscious.

[HeaT]

what do you guys do about eating on the go? the easy answer is "don't eat fast food" but in reality, it's very very difficult to do so 100% of the time. it's STUPID how unhealthy just about everything is.

i know everyone isn't a calorie counter like me but we're all health conscious.

power/protein bars...sandwhich places are pretty good substitute for fast food places...

im outi

Roberth

[Nu.]

what do you guys do about eating on the go? the easy answer is "don't eat fast food" but in reality, it's very very difficult to do so 100% of the time. it's STUPID how unhealthy just about everything is.

i know everyone isn't a calorie counter like me but we're all health conscious.

Protein bars, protein shakes or even a can of tuna should cover you...

[DaemoN_]

Anyone take those One-A-Day pills? I took one the other day and I couldn't stop eating things with fat in it :looney:

[Cyric]

I always keep a big bag of protein in my car along with a couple of boxes of Wheatbix (Do you Yanks know what that is?). That way I can easily snack between classes.
I built up my strength recently but then tried to lift too much at the gym and temporarily stuffed my back.

[BIG BAD MOG]

I used to drink Muscle Milk since it tasted good and gave me some nice protein for the day, kinda like PB and toast. Thing is my gf's roomate's basketball girlfriend (yeah, I know, sounds like telephone) has said that Muscle Milk is unhealthy for you and may cause brain damage. I have tried searching all over the internet for proof but cannot find any. So before I try to buy some more, I'd like to know if anybody has heard anything potentially dangerous about Muscle Milk? If so, are there any recommended soy milk drinks that are good for giving you protein in the morning?

[Soldier Zero]

I used to drink Muscle Milk since it tasted good and gave me some nice protein for the day, kinda like PB and toast. Thing is my gf's roomate's basketball girlfriend (yeah, I know, sounds like telephone) has said that Muscle Milk is unhealthy for you and may cause brain damage. I have tried searching all over the internet for proof but cannot find any. So before I try to buy some more, I'd like to know if anybody has heard anything potentially dangerous about Muscle Milk? If so, are there any recommended soy milk drinks that are good for giving you protein in the morning?

I haven't heard anything wrong with muscle milk, ask them to cite a source if they're confident about it.

[BIG BAD MOG]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

apparently this is the site she was talking about

[Deus]

what do you guys do about eating on the go? the easy answer is "don't eat fast food" but in reality, it's very very difficult to do so 100% of the time. it's STUPID how unhealthy just about everything is.

i know everyone isn't a calorie counter like me but we're all health conscious.

chicken salads, no dressing

[Soldier Zero]

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1231523

apparently this is the site she was talking about

Hm did a skim through, if it's only one brand I'd say read labels of others to see what they contain. If all companies include those certain ingredients then you might have to come up with an alternative.

[BrazilionBH]

Zero is just joking with you guys, curls do work your forearms, it works better for some than others, deadlifts are also good for your forearms.
Just moving those 45lb plates back and forth and back and forth plus hammer curls should be enough to make them grow.

[BrazilionBH]

what do you guys do about eating on the go? the easy answer is "don't eat fast food" but in reality, it's very very difficult to do so 100% of the time. it's STUPID how unhealthy just about everything is.

i know everyone isn't a calorie counter like me but we're all health conscious.

Try keeping a bag of almonds in your car or beef jerky.That way you dont go all catabolic till you can eat a real meal.

[Kane Blueriver]

Greetings!

I'm 21 years old, my height is 5'6''-5'7'' and I weigh 176 lbs. My interest is to reduce overall fat in my body, increase heart ratio/blood flow/oxygen supply, rising my metabolic rate, and to develop some muscle. I'm not desiring to look like SF3's Alex or even to have a six-pack, I'm just fine getting some solid support on my muscles. I don't have money to go to a gym, and I want to develop some self-discipline that I really need, so I plan to do home training, without machines. I've found a program that takes about 20-25 minutes daily, and looks to be good. It consists of:

5 mins. of cardio warm-up (suggestions? would be running in place, go out jogging or jumping rope be better? Should I extend it to 10 mins?)
2 sets of each of these, you do one full routine (1 set), rest a couple of minutes, then do the next set:

Squats (15)
Side to Side Lunge (10 to each side)
Inverted Push-up (10)
Push-up (10)
Close-grip Push-up (10)
Lying Torso Raise (10)
Weightless Concentration Curl (10)
Crunch (15)

I would also like to know when is the optimal time of the day to do these (early morning? before or after breakfast?), what would be the best options at breakfast for this, and if this training is light enough to do everyday, or if it's something that should be done every 2 days or thrice a week. Consider that I'm just a beginner in this, so even considering that I'm not THAT fat, I'm certainly over the weight that I should have, and that my current physical condition and performance is very poor. Any comments and suggestions would be infinitely appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[Wolfkiller]

Kind of a weird question, but is improvised cardio a good idea or is it better to stick to "normal" routines? Sometimes when I feel like working out and I don't want to just go running, I'll chill inside and just kinda go nuts for an hour. Switching between shadow boxing, jumping jacks, etc... just pretty much bouncing around with no real direction I suppose. Anything I should add/remove from this? Anyone got any nice ideas for cardio other than the normal running/jumping rope type of stuff?

[mr. newbie]

^swimming and ddr. and thanks for the food tips. i'm gonna try bringing some granola bars everywhere i go.

[running_gag]

Ok I need help guys, food

What is something easy to prepare, high in calories, LOW in carbohydrates/sugar
and also good for you, so you can eat it in high amounts...????


any ideas? fuck:confused:

[running_gag]

besides peanut butter

[HeaT]

Kind of a weird question, but is improvised cardio a good idea or is it better to stick to "normal" routines? Sometimes when I feel like working out and I don't want to just go running, I'll chill inside and just kinda go nuts for an hour. Switching between shadow boxing, jumping jacks, etc... just pretty much bouncing around with no real direction I suppose. Anything I should add/remove from this? Anyone got any nice ideas for cardio other than the normal running/jumping rope type of stuff?

biking, swimming, spinning, punching bag...a sport as well will help haha...

im outi

Roberth

[Ryad]

Ok I need help guys, food

What is something easy to prepare, high in calories, LOW in carbohydrates/sugar
and also good for you, so you can eat it in high amounts...????


any ideas? fuck:confused:

eggs...
probably...

i heard mixed info about eggs... some bad, some awesome...
I dont know what to make of it...

EDIT: Upon a bit more online research... it would seem that I am reading almost nothing but good things about eggs
which i find comforting seeing as how I eat at least 3 eggs a day
(One study showed a bodybuilder taking I think it was either 12 or 18 eggs a day, and he had lower cholesterol than the average egg eater)
Also, I noticed, it would seem that the best way to consume the egg is either raw (I definately wont do that) or cooked whites+uncooked yolk... so sunny side up for me...

[BIG BAD MOG]

I'd like to add to the cardio list, but I know what I'm about to say is going to sound pervy and stuff. Generally sex is one hell of a workout and is great because you have a partner to work with. People who exercise all agree that when working out with another person you stay motivated and are less likely to get bored. Sex does all sorts of good things for cardio and such. Besides, I read this from one of those Muscle Magazines when looking for info about whey protein so this info isn't something that I pulled out of my ass.

To answer Kane Blueriver, if you are moderately fat so that you have some fat on your abs, you may not actually see your improvements due to the fat covering it. You should do extra cardio and burn that fat as well. Avoiding your typical snack foods and sugary drinks also help. As for optimal time of the day, I generally stick with night time. I find that eating after the exercise just makes me feel that all that work I did go to waste. If your current physical perfomance and condition is poor, and when I think poor I think you get tired just walking to class, then I believe you should definitely increase the cardio. Jogging outside is fun on good days.

[Kane Blueriver]

How much time and intensity of cardio exercise would you recommend me? I could go jogging, rope jumping and I also have a DDR platform at home. Which one would you think that would give best results?

[BIG BAD MOG]

Personally I am no expert at giving cardio advice. Sorry.

About the Muscle Milk, I went and bought some and scanned the whole carton for glycosamine and could not find it. I drink the one that is already made and stuff and not the big powder tub so not sure if there is a difference.

[SIMPLY_HUGO]

running. Im going to bootcamp soon(14days) And i still cant run to good..my legs are like iron! alrighty..some hard plastic material.But when i run a long distance my rib puts off this pain..Any ideas on how to get rid of it, and how to become a beast runner quickly?

[coco_j]

^ HIIT perhaps?

And now a question. Besides protein and creatine, what supplement would you guys recommend taking?

[Deus]

^ HIIT perhaps?

And now a question. Besides protein and creatine, what supplement would you guys recommend taking?

fish oil, flaxseed oil, zma, greens+

[coco_j]

^ Thanx for the reply. Wow, that ZMA stuff sounds pretty good... anyone else recommend it?

Definitely going to get some Fish oil and Flaxseed.

[Soldier Zero]

running. Im going to bootcamp soon(14days) And i still cant run to good..my legs are like iron! alrighty..some hard plastic material.But when i run a long distance my rib puts off this pain..Any ideas on how to get rid of it, and how to become a beast runner quickly?

Might be your diaphram expanding, usually hurts when you hit your limit. Try doing intervals.

fish oil, flaxseed oil, zma, greens+

What's zma?

[BrazilionBH]

How much time and intensity of cardio exercise would you recommend me? I could go jogging, rope jumping and I also have a DDR platform at home. Which one would you think that would give best results?

Well if you had to choose just one I would go with running.But the best would be to do alittle of all of them.Example: half mile warm up, a good solid minute of jump rope and then play ddr until you get tired of the shitty selection of music.

[BrazilionBH]

What's zma?[/QUOTE]

Zinc magnesium aspartate. Its a metabolic support supplement, which means it helps stop your body from breaking down muscle tissue. Its a good sup before you goto bed.

[DarthTrey]

In regards to protein bars, do they provide the most benefit before or after a work out?

[BrazilionBH]

running. Im going to bootcamp soon(14days) And i still cant run to good..my legs are like iron! alrighty..some hard plastic material.But when i run a long distance my rib puts off this pain..Any ideas on how to get rid of it, and how to become a beast runner quickly?
Besides hanging out with the floyd landis?...Just keep doing it the pain will go away. Running for distance takes patience and alot of wind which is why your ribs hurt.Its actually your lungs not having enough air.The more you run the bigger your lungs can get.

[Soldier Zero]

Zinc magnesium aspartate. Its a metabolic support supplement, which means it helps stop your body from breaking down muscle tissue. Its a good sup before you goto bed.

Gotcha, thanks. :tup:

[CrouchingTiger]

HOOOOOLY SHIT

Here's a new goal for all of us:

http://www.beastskills.com/old%20flag%20pic.jpg

[CrouchingTiger]

eggs...
probably...

i heard mixed info about eggs... some bad, some awesome...
I dont know what to make of it...

EDIT: Upon a bit more online research... it would seem that I am reading almost nothing but good things about eggs
which i find comforting seeing as how I eat at least 3 eggs a day
(One study showed a bodybuilder taking I think it was either 12 or 18 eggs a day, and he had lower cholesterol than the average egg eater)
Also, I noticed, it would seem that the best way to consume the egg is either raw (I definately wont do that) or cooked whites+uncooked yolk... so sunny side up for me...

I think the healthiest way is actually to hard boil them, peal off and eat the white and toss the yolk. Of course that's wasteful and gets rather old fast. Back when I was trying to eat eggs regularly, I usually boiled 5 of them, ate 2 whole and tossed 3 yolks. Yolks are good for you, but do have some bad aspects to them as well. So eating just the whites or just a couple of yolks is great.

[Soldier Zero]

HOOOOOLY SHIT

Here's a new goal for all of us:

http://www.beastskills.com/old%20flag%20pic.jpg

Is that even possible? You'd have to have some seriously beastly core strength to hold a guy up like that.

[Ryad]

I think the healthiest way is actually to hard boil them, peal off and eat the white and toss the yolk. Of course that's wasteful and gets rather old fast. Back when I was trying to eat eggs regularly, I usually boiled 5 of them, ate 2 whole and tossed 3 yolks. Yolks are good for you, but do have some bad aspects to them as well. So eating just the whites or just a couple of yolks is great.

thats what I thought too! I was actually buying egg whites recently instead eating whole eggs...
but when I read articles here and there... most of them were trying to debunk the alleged "myth" that eggs, specifically egg yolk, raises cholesterol. What I read is that in the studies where those results were found, they used either powedered eggs, or completely cooked the egg yolk. And they argued that it was due to the fact that the cholesterol gets oxidized when heated and exposed to air (and other very beneficial nutrients get destroyed). Also, they indicated that the eggs used were not of the type that had a 1:1 ratio of Omega 6:Omega 3. And they cited a plethora of beneficial elements. including decreasing cholesterol, fighting blood clots, increased memory efficiency etc...
Also something about the majority of cholesterol is made by the body as opposed to found in diet, and so if you dont take in cholesterol, your body will compensate by hiking your cholesterol up, whereas if you ingest some (non oxidized, it has some to do with the abilitiy of your blood to recognizing it as cholesterol) your body will halt its cholesterol production...
I will read more into it just to make sure the infor scientific in nature,and not just the egg industry trying to provide info to increase their sales...

[masher]

HOOOOOLY SHIT

Here's a new goal for all of us:

http://www.beastskills.com/old%20flag%20pic.jpg

speak for yourself...:confused:


BTW Lipo6 sucks!:annoy:

[doujinshi_2001]

what do you guys think about doing reps to failure? i saw a workout plan that simply does reps til failure and i wanted to get some input to see how well that works

[Reckless Fire]

Is it a good idea to change my college major to athletic traning? Is it easy to get a job with that kind of degree? Does it pay well?

I went to the doctor today about my wrists. Long story short he said I should not lift weights for 2 weeks. So what can I do at the gym that doesn't use my wrists? All I can think of is Squats, Calf raise, Abs, Flies(machine), Shoulder raise(machine) and running.

[Taito]

I drank Pedialyte during my weight workout the other day.. and my veins were popping out of my skin and I wasn't the least bit tired.. then I felt a soreness the next day I haven't felt in a long time.. the kind that feels like you're really working your muscles out. What is it about the composition in Pedialyte (I'm guessing all the sodium) that keeps you pumped during exercise, and is it a good idea to drink it every workout?

[Soldier Zero]

So I went to GNC yesterday and bought some supplements, but before I opened anything, I thought I'd ask about them first.

1. Protein Powder - Pro Blend 55 from Wellements (contains hydrolyzed whey protein isolate [WPI], microfiltered WPI, ion exchange WPI, ultrafiltered WP concentrate, egg albumin, and micellar casein)
2. Amino Acids - Amino Fuel 1000 from Twinlab
3. Vitamins - Ultra Mega Gold Multivitamins from GNC
4. Fish Oil Capsules - Fish Body Oils 1000 from GNC

Now I'm suppose to take the vitamins one in the morning, one at night, somewhat same for the fish caps, twice daily. Is that enough? I was reading The Metabolism Advantage and IIRC he recommends 2 fish caps with each shake, about 6 a day.

The amino acids says take 4 tablets with each meal, seriously? I eat 4-6 times a day and there's only 150 tablets so I'd run out pretty quickly.

Protein shake in general question, we only digest 25g at a time and urinate the rest? If that's the case, my shake would only need 1/2 a scoop plus 10oz. milk.

I'm just trying to get some feedback on all this before I start using anything. I wanted to see how much each influences my body by cycling one supplement at a time, but eh, I think that would take too long cause 3-4 supplements would be a while if each was a month.

[StuartHayden]

Any one wanna write me out a at home work out?

I'm trying to get back into shape but like...the nearest gym is like an hour drive, so, fuck that.

-SH

[Deus]

So I went to GNC yesterday and bought some supplements, but before I opened anything, I thought I'd ask about them first.

1. Protein Powder - Pro Blend 55 from Wellements (contains hydrolyzed whey protein isolate [WPI], microfiltered WPI, ion exchange WPI, ultrafiltered WP concentrate, egg albumin, and micellar casein)
2. Amino Acids - Amino Fuel 1000 from Twinlab
3. Vitamins - Ultra Mega Gold Multivitamins from GNC
4. Fish Oil Capsules - Fish Body Oils 1000 from GNC

Now I'm suppose to take the vitamins one in the morning, one at night, somewhat same for the fish caps, twice daily. Is that enough? I was reading The Metabolism Advantage and IIRC he recommends 2 fish caps with each shake, about 6 a day.


read these articles -

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1651364
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=910074



The amino acids says take 4 tablets with each meal, seriously? I eat 4-6 times a day and there's only 150 tablets so I'd run out pretty quickly.


don't take them with meals, take them between meals. read this -

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1123403



Protein shake in general question, we only digest 25g at a time and urinate the rest? If that's the case, my shake would only need 1/2 a scoop plus 10oz. milk.


where did you read 25g at a time? basically 2929398 diff people give diff amounts of protein that is digestable during a meal but nobody can provide any decent reasoning as to WHY or HOW they arrived at that number.

just make sure you are getting at least 1-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight each day

[Soldier Zero]

where did you read 25g at a time? basically 2929398 diff people give diff amounts of protein that is digestable during a meal but nobody can provide any decent reasoning as to WHY or HOW they arrived at that number.

just make sure you are getting at least 1-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight each day

Thanks for the articles, gonna read them between tonight and tomorrow.

Guy at GNC was telling me and now I know he's just some guy trying to make cash, but dude did know his stuff so I didn't totally ignore what he had to say.

[Truong]

Finally able to powerclean and jerk 185 today, after cleaning (no pun intended) up my form. I was plateauing at around 170 for months. Did it quite easily too. Could have went for a double, but didn't want to risk failing it and losing that high after you hit a PR :lovin: 225 c&j, here I come.

And I'm seriously jealous of people who can take massive amounts of protein without constipating and shitting out bricks. I've completely given up on protein because any amount of protein powder I take, ends up constipating me for weeks, and I'll eventually have to push so hard I'll literally shit out blood. Yeah, too much info.

Creatine + lots of food ftw.

[Dj-DarK]

Truong hows your fiber intake?

[Deus]

And I'm seriously jealous of people who can take massive amounts of protein without constipating and shitting out bricks. I've completely given up on protein because any amount of protein powder I take, ends up constipating me for weeks, and I'll eventually have to push so hard I'll literally shit out blood. Yeah, too much info.

Creatine + lots of food ftw.

they make metamucil and benefiber for a reason

you were probably not drinking enough water and not getting enough fiber

[Soldier Zero]

If you ever increase your fiber intake significantly, drink LOTS of water. If you don't, you're gonna feel your stomach hurting like there's no tomorrow.

[Truong]

Oh trust me guys, I've been lifting for years now, I know about all that shit. It simply does not help.

I've tried everything, every brand of protein, and it's all the same. I eat massive amount of veggies, eat 100% rolled oats at least twice a day, and I rarely eat junk food. And I know it's the protein shake because when I'm off of it, I shit fine. At least once a day, and sometimes twice when I'm on my clean diet and no protein shake. But as SOON as I take a scoop of protein, I can literally feel my stomach clump up and immediately feel the effect. Even if I take it once, and don't take it again, I'll still constipate for at least a good week before my system cleans it out. It's like the protein powder just sits in my stomach.

I just simply feel a lot better when I'm not taking protein powder. My skin is a lot nicer, my stomach is really lean, and I just feel more refreshed and energized because my stomach isn't harboring 5 pounds of rock hard solid shit.

[Deus]

have you tried metabolic drive?

[Truong]

have you tried metabolic drive?

No, I have not. But I just did a quick search on it, and it looks expensive. The stuff I was on in the past, everything from IsoPure, Optimum Nutrition, MuscleMilk, old school crap from years ago I can't remember, have all lead to constipation.

What's in metabolic drive that's different? Shit is hella expensive from the quick search I did.

[Deus]

No, I have not. But I just did a quick search on it, and it looks expensive. The stuff I was on in the past, everything from IsoPure, Optimum Nutrition, MuscleMilk, old school crap from years ago I can't remember, have all lead to constipation.

What's in metabolic drive that's different? Shit is hella expensive from the quick search I did.

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1091674 - non low carb

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=525024 - low carb

this is also the cheapest place to get it

[Soldier Zero]

About the amino acids again, a lot of people on bodybuilding.com forums say I should return them cause they're not necessary.

[Biggzy]

About the amino acids again, a lot of people on bodybuilding.com forums say I should return them cause they're not necessary.

Lol, who said that? Amino acids are very essential.

[Soldier Zero]

Lol, who said that? Amino acids are very essential.

One or two posters on the other site, they said just take an extra bite out of meat.

Wouldn't the amino acids be better absorbed through my body if I ate them after a meal?

[Taito]

Oh trust me guys, I've been lifting for years now, I know about all that shit. It simply does not help.

I've tried everything, every brand of protein, and it's all the same. I eat massive amount of veggies, eat 100% rolled oats at least twice a day, and I rarely eat junk food. And I know it's the protein shake because when I'm off of it, I shit fine. At least once a day, and sometimes twice when I'm on my clean diet and no protein shake. But as SOON as I take a scoop of protein, I can literally feel my stomach clump up and immediately feel the effect. Even if I take it once, and don't take it again, I'll still constipate for at least a good week before my system cleans it out. It's like the protein powder just sits in my stomach.

I just simply feel a lot better when I'm not taking protein powder. My skin is a lot nicer, my stomach is really lean, and I just feel more refreshed and energized because my stomach isn't harboring 5 pounds of rock hard solid shit.
I switched to 100% egg protein powder (just bought a random tub of the stuff from bodybuilding.com) instead of fooling myself into thinking my body can ingest milk/whey. I don't really want to hear the arguments I've heard for the past 5 years.. some people can't ingest milk protein for a variety of reasons. Egg probably isn't as efficient as whey but I am getting in my >200g a day without fail, so hey whatever works.

[Soldier Zero]

Multivitamins with or without iron? Any advice?

[MagnusMadness]

Finally able to powerclean and jerk 185 today, after cleaning (no pun intended) up my form. I was plateauing at around 170 for months. Did it quite easily too. Could have went for a double, but didn't want to risk failing it and losing that high after you hit a PR :lovin: 225 c&j, here I come.

And I'm seriously jealous of people who can take massive amounts of protein without constipating and shitting out bricks. I've completely given up on protein because any amount of protein powder I take, ends up constipating me for weeks, and I'll eventually have to push so hard I'll literally shit out blood. Yeah, too much info.

Creatine + lots of food ftw.

Wow, it has the opposite effect on me. When I drink tons of protein I shit soup.

[Jorant]

Wow, I've been away from this thread for a long time, and I see it's still alive and kicking. Nice.

[Soldier Zero]

Wow, it has the opposite effect on me. When I drink tons of protein I shit soup.

Ditto, especially with fat free milk.

[Reckless Fire]

How should I be looking at the foods I eat? I seem to deem any food that doesn't have more than 10g of protein as useless. What’s good what’s bad?
Are Sat fats ok? Which is the bad fat again?
What did everyone eat today? I've been eating mostly sandwiches lately.

[BrazilionBH]

the amino acids in pill form are pretty much crap. I took them for awhile and found no affects. If you want some good metabolic support just get some zma or drink some a milk and egg protein shake before bed.

[BrazilionBH]

I eat green berets for breakfast and right now Im...VERY HUNGRY!

[Ryad]

Fish, Chicken, Fruits, Veggies, Protein Shake...

[Truong]

I switched to 100% egg protein powder (just bought a random tub of the stuff from bodybuilding.com) instead of fooling myself into thinking my body can ingest milk/whey. I don't really want to hear the arguments I've heard for the past 5 years.. some people can't ingest milk protein for a variety of reasons. Egg probably isn't as efficient as whey but I am getting in my >200g a day without fail, so hey whatever works.


Hmm, I've been meaning to try egg protein powder myself, but the fear of my body not being able to digest that as well really discourages me from trying. It's like, yay, let's spend another 30-40 bucks on protein and then take it once and leave it sitting around for a few months then throw it away....

Did you also experience constipation from whey powder? How's egg powder working for you?


Wow, it has the opposite effect on me. When I drink tons of protein I shit soup.

Er, you sure that's healthy? I'm not an expert on shit by any means, but healthy shit isn't supposed to look like "soup" :lol:

[D'Nyc3]

Whats the best healthy products to help with your abs and tricepts?

[TehNewGuy]

Whats the best healthy products to help with your abs and tricepts?

Working out - seriously.

[HeaT]

Whats the best healthy products to help with your abs and tricepts?

no product will make you big ( or in your case better abs and tricepts) without working out...and abs is a matter of what your body fat % is...

im outi

Roberth

[Soldier Zero]

Multivitamins with or without iron? Any advice?

Anyone? I might return the amino acids since I haven't opened them yet.

Also, doing bench press and pull ups seems to be more than enough for my upper body in a week, probably 2 of my favorite exercises.

[D'Nyc3]

no product will make you big ( or in your case better abs and tricepts) without working out...and abs is a matter of what your body fat % is...

im outi

Roberth


Right now I have a four pack... I guess what im trying to do is just sharpen up my abs.

[bohdi]

ive got an agility test coming up for work. its in the morning at 8, and ive got to get up at 6 to drive there. it involves a timed 2 mile run, stairs running and some lifting events. im in pretty good shape, but i would like some advice on what i should eat/do the day before and eat/do the morning of to be peak for the test.

[Taito]

Hmm, I've been meaning to try egg protein powder myself, but the fear of my body not being able to digest that as well really discourages me from trying. It's like, yay, let's spend another 30-40 bucks on protein and then take it once and leave it sitting around for a few months then throw it away....

Did you also experience constipation from whey powder? How's egg powder working for you?

Only if I take too much of it per serving, which is expected.. but it's a different feeling than taking milk protein.. however, if I (personally) take about 30g 3 times a day, it goes down easy and it doesn't ruin my stomach.. I've been hitting the gym with a different routine lately, but I'm seeing better results than I did in the past. I can't tell if that's because of the powder or not. I just know that I'm actually digesting it, unlike all the million whey or casein products I've bought over the years.

[supaman]

Yo I haven't been drinking soda or sugar densed drinks for about 2 weeks. I lost about 8-10 pounds. Is this healthy for me to lose that much weight that fast. I use to weigh between 205-210, now i'm 195-198. I also changed my diet to eating healthier but it still doesn't make sense to me

[HeaT]

Yo I haven't been drinking soda or sugar densed drinks for about 2 weeks. I lost about 8-10 pounds. Is this healthy for me to lose that much weight that fast. I use to weigh between 205-210, now i'm 195-198. I also changed my diet to eating healthier but it still doesn't make sense to me

4 lbs a week, i wouldnt say that is abnormal...it depends on what your diet was like before...if it was pretty bad and all of the sudden you start eating health and not drinking soda etc. it would make a huge different...

im outi

Roberth

[MagnusMadness]

Er, you sure that's healthy? I'm not an expert on shit by any means, but healthy shit isn't supposed to look like "soup" :lol:

Well if you eat 6-8 times a day with no fiber, it won't be pretty. Now that I get adequate fiber for all the meals I'm taking in, I'm fine. I shit at least 4 times a day though.

[mr. newbie]

mag when you say Bent Rows (in exercise guide one) do you mean http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BBBentOverRow.html

i'll take a pic tomorrow but i think there's a machine for it in my gym.

[coco_j]

Just gotta say that ZMA is the shiznit. I plateaued but that shit gave me a kick in the arse and I'm lifting heavier, and have grown just a bit.

Placebo or not, I love it.

[fishjie]

do you guys use any software to keep track of your workouts? or do you just use a notepad?

i currently just filled up my first notepads worth of workouts, and am wondering if i should use some kind of software to log it.

edit: im leaning towards just using an excel spreadsheet or just writing my own application lol

[MagnusMadness]

mag when you say Bent Rows (in exercise guide one) do you mean http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BBBentOverRow.html

i'll take a pic tomorrow but i think there's a machine for it in my gym.

That's the exercise. I do them with my head up and my back tight though.

You don't need a machine for this exercise though, just a barbell and some olympic weights.

[Katsurugi]

do you guys use any software to keep track of your workouts? or do you just use a notepad?

i currently just filled up my first notepads worth of workouts, and am wondering if i should use some kind of software to log it.

edit: im leaning towards just using an excel spreadsheet or just writing my own application lol
Actually, if you use Excel, it's probably better for you. I mean, you can't really predict what you should lifting or where you should be. But at the very least, you can graph your progress. (In fact, I'm using it right now!)

[HeaT]

mag when you say Bent Rows (in exercise guide one) do you mean http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BBBentOverRow.html

i'll take a pic tomorrow but i think there's a machine for it in my gym.

i actually have never seen them done like that before ever...

i do them like magnus described back tight at like a 45 degree angle to the floor, head up, and i dont let the bar go all the way to the floor, just as low as my arms allow me from that position...

im outi

Roberth

[MagnusMadness]

anybody noticed it's a shirtless hairy guy doing all the exercises on exrx.net??

[Richter85]

I might be late on this but the ab-roller freaken works.

I've been using it for the last 2 months. My workout routine:

Every 1~2 days: 8 minutues forward and backwards. 2 minutes left to right.
Every 1~2 days: 100 situps, 100 crunches (legs up), 100 reverse crunches (legs to elbows), 100 side crunches (left to right).


Diet is everyday college diet, consisting of fast food.

i'm starting to develop an 8 pack now. i just need to slim down/ eat healthier.

Any tips on slimming? Im not sure which route to go, either carb-less or fat-less.

[MagnusMadness]

I might be late on this but the ab-roller freaken works.

I've been using it for the last 2 months. My workout routine:

Every 1~2 days: 8 minutues forward and backwards. 2 minutes left to right.
Every 1~2 days: 100 situps, 100 crunches (legs up), 100 reverse crunches (legs to elbows), 100 side crunches (left to right).


Diet is everyday college diet, consisting of fast food.

i'm starting to develop an 8 pack now. i just need to slim down/ eat healthier.

Any tips on slimming? Im not sure which route to go, either carb-less or fat-less.

eat a balanced diet. Complex Carbs before activity. Start cutting sugars to a minimum. Get Healthy fats. Avoid unneccessary saturated animal fats. Get tons of protein.

All that ab work is useless without a good diet. Does ur college have a rec center/weight room? If so, hit that up 3-4 times a week. Start doing cardio.

[300 lb Eugene]

I might be late on this but the ab-roller freaken works.

I've been using it for the last 2 months. My workout routine:

Every 1~2 days: 8 minutues forward and backwards. 2 minutes left to right.
Every 1~2 days: 100 situps, 100 crunches (legs up), 100 reverse crunches (legs to elbows), 100 side crunches (left to right).


Diet is everyday college diet, consisting of fast food.

i'm starting to develop an 8 pack now. i just need to slim down/ eat healthier.

Any tips on slimming? Im not sure which route to go, either carb-less or fat-less.


Im starting to see my 6 through the layers of fat thats still left.:lovin:

[ssjbrydon]

ive got an agility test coming up for work. its in the morning at 8, and ive got to get up at 6 to drive there. it involves a timed 2 mile run, stairs running and some lifting events. im in pretty good shape, but i would like some advice on what i should eat/do the day before and eat/do the morning of to be peak for the test.

sounds fun where do you work?

i say just eat like normal, you really dont want to try anything out of the box and have an ill stomach before the test. eat lite and get rest.

[Soldier Zero]

Diet is everyday college diet, consisting of fast food.

i'm starting to develop an 8 pack now. i just need to slim down/ eat healthier.

Any tips on slimming? Im not sure which route to go, either carb-less or fat-less.

Not sure how your college food is, but for me I have some healthy choices to go for. Breakfast I can do Cheerios with milk. Lunch can be grilled chicken breast, some lettuce, tomato, whole wheat bread if I make a sandwich. Dinner I can make a salad.

I'm not trying to slim so there are usually 2-3 other meals on top of that I have in a day. If you have money to spend, I'm sure there are nearby places that offer some great tasting meals and aren't total crap to your body. Liquor also hammers down on your gains so don't mess with it.

[Reckless Fire]

Hey I've gain weight and I'm starting to get this gut, but the thing is I haven't touched anything unhealthy in a month. The only thing I can think of that's causing this is my high protein intake. Should I reduce it? I have a solid four pack going onto a six I'm afraid it will disappear with this thickness.

[Wil]

I'm doing a lot of cardio right now and already lost ten pounds in two weeks. Although I'm losing weight, what is the best way to get rid of this belly? :rofl:

[bohdi]

sounds fun where do you work?

i say just eat like normal, you really dont want to try anything out of the box and have an ill stomach before the test. eat lite and get rest.

starting at firefighting academy.

[MagnusMadness]

I'm doing a lot of cardio right now and already lost ten pounds in two weeks. Although I'm losing weight, what is the best way to get rid of this belly? :rofl:

Keep doing what ur doing. If ur not lifting weights then that would be a good start.

[Soldier Zero]

Hey I've gain weight and I'm starting to get this gut, but the thing is I haven't touched anything unhealthy in a month. The only thing I can think of that's causing this is my high protein intake. Should I reduce it? I have a solid four pack going onto a six I'm afraid it will disappear with this thickness.

Eh I highly doubt it's the protein.

I'm doing a lot of cardio right now and already lost ten pounds in two weeks. Although I'm losing weight, what is the best way to get rid of this belly? :rofl:

Magnus already mentioned lifting if you don't so try eating cleaner if you can on top of that.

[Reckless Fire]

Eh I highly doubt it's the protein.

Then what could be making me fat?

[Katsurugi]

Then what could be making me fat?
Maybe it's just anything that you're taking in and not really using. It could be the protein shake, but it could also be just the total amount of sugar you have per day too. I'd probably reduce the amount of shake and see what happens. Usually, the less food you eat, the less weight you gain. But if you work out more, then you could just make that weight into muscle, which would be good weight to have.

[denjin]

169 pages...Wow.

Actually, if you use Excel, it's probably better for you. I mean, you can't really predict what you should lifting or where you should be. But at the very least, you can graph your progress. (In fact, I'm using it right now!)

Graphs?! Graphs. Wow. That's cool. Anyone else do this?

[Soldier Zero]

Graphs?! Graphs. Wow. That's cool. Anyone else do this?

Graphs do sound cool. I used excel a while ago to record numbers, but never thought to do that.

[Ryad]

I used excel graphs. they were really useful at first, especially when you are not familiar with the exercises and the weights you can handle...
It was really cool seeing the graphs go up, down, plateau etc... but in a general upwards direction... built confidence
but I stopped using them because now I know the weights I can do for most of the excercises... so I know when I am making gradual progress

[Truong]

I've tried to keep track of my progress on and off through out the years with a little notebook. It never lasts for more than a week before I just get lazy and say fuck it. I got all that shit in my head.

Ah, just came across this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3cYCNBg7J0 over 3.5x bodyweight Olympic squat :amazed: Awesome lifter.

[Hoonyo]

does a high-sodium diet contribute to love handles? i was wondering this because i tried cardio every day for 30-45 minutes + weight training + <2000 calories per day diet (mostly subway, cereal, and el pollo loco chicken), and these things would not go away. sometimes i'd eat two 6" subs a day, and those things have like 900mg of sodium.

i just hate my muffin top when i put on these size 28 jeans.

[Magnus Huang]

Keeping logs and excel tables becomes a hassle after awhile. I use to do that: record exercises, sets, reps, failure sets. If you start changing up your exercises/routine (as everybody should be doing from time to time) it becomes less useful to compare week-to-week progress.

I normally lift with a pyramid or 5x5 scheme, keeping track of maxes in my head. It's easy to remember what these numbers are when you train regularly. No one I know ups their weight every single session in the gym. People that say that are either: 1) making newb gains or 2) inflating their achievements. Everyone should be able to make some improvements from month to month, otherwise hit the the gym, fridge, or bed harder. Figure out which one(s) it is.

[Ryad]

Keeping logs and excel tables becomes a hassle after awhile. I use to do that: record exercises, sets, reps, failure sets. If you start changing up your exercises/routine (as everybody should be doing from time to time) it becomes less useful to compare week-to-week progress.

I normally lift with a pyramid or 5x5 scheme, keeping track of maxes in my head. It's easy to remember what these numbers are when you train regularly. No one I know ups their weight every single session in the gym. People that say that are either: 1) making newb gains or 2) inflating their achievements. Everyone should be able to make some improvements from month to month, otherwise hit the the gym, fridge, or bed harder. Figure out which one(s) it is.

Amen

[MagnusMadness]

Keeping logs and excel tables becomes a hassle after awhile. I use to do that: record exercises, sets, reps, failure sets. If you start changing up your exercises/routine (as everybody should be doing from time to time) it becomes less useful to compare week-to-week progress.

I normally lift with a pyramid or 5x5 scheme, keeping track of maxes in my head. It's easy to remember what these numbers are when you train regularly. No one I know ups their weight every single session in the gym. People that say that are either: 1) making newb gains or 2) inflating their achievements. Everyone should be able to make some improvements from month to month, otherwise hit the the gym, fridge, or bed harder. Figure out which one(s) it is.

If you adhere to planned programs, it is very easy to track progress while still switching things up regularly. By 'switching things up' I mean a planned change in loading parameters. It's also good to know exactly what your doing to total up overall work/volume...to make sure you are doing more work than previously...

200lbs x 5 (reps) x 5 (sets) = 5000lbs moved = total work
150lbs x 12 x 3= 5400lbs moved...more work.

Using that example, you can see how a log would benefit you. I don't always calculate everything, but I try to write everything down. It takes 10 seconds after a workout.

Now in my case, I'm training for strength....so crunching numbers is important.

[Ryad]

why do you calculate work?
Is it for calculating if you are getting enough/too much calories?
Isnt just checking if you are (not) gaining weight, gaining fat etc... do the same thing without all this calculating?

and you said that when training for strength crunching numbers is important...
doesnt it lose importance as although you may be doing more work with high reps/low weights, it is still more efficient strength gaining-wise to do heavy weights low reps?
Am I missing something?

[Chritorisu]

what up guys

quick question...

ive got protein shakes, no2, and creatine, and im kind of confused in which order i should take it.

all i know is that im supposed to take no2 before i eat and creatine before and after i workout, but for the no2, do i really have to do it everyday before each meal? even if i didnt work out that day? im kind of confused there

thanks a lot guys

[MagnusMadness]

why do you calculate work?
Is it for calculating if you are getting enough/too much calories?
Isnt just checking if you are (not) gaining weight, gaining fat etc... do the same thing without all this calculating?

and you said that when training for strength crunching numbers is important...
doesnt it lose importance as although you may be doing more work with high reps/low weights, it is still more efficient strength gaining-wise to do heavy weights low reps?
Am I missing something?

No, ur not missing anything....but it's not really what I was trying to convey. Total work has little to do with calorie counting.

Some coaches believe in doing more work when repeating a workout, or just more work with EVERY consecutive workout. So to do it, you gotta know how much work you're doing. Also when changing rep/set schemes, it's good to know how many sets you should be doing for a given rep scheme. Using my previous example...

200lbs x 5 (reps) x 5 (sets) = 5000lbs moved = total work
150lbs x 12 x 3= 5400lbs moved...more work.


Just add another set to the 5 rep exercise to give yeild more work. If your not doing like 10 exercises that day, that extra set isn't going to push you over the edge. This is kinda the whole reasoning behind doing more sets when you do less reps. This is why I rip off anyw