View Full Version : SVC Chaos Thread Review Lag Tested vs Japanese/Hong Kong
DreamTR
10-05-2004, 10:51 AM
SVC Chaos was released overseas today. I played 14 games so far, and the lag is comparable to CVS2 lag. HOWEVER, if you are a masher, there are times if you press buttons (like Light Punch or Light Kick) rapidly to get the moves out, there is a distinct possibility the moves will come out twice. To compensate for lag, I pressed jab twice with Dhalsim numerous times, and the game actually caught up to my button pressing as opposed to negating it. This will be interesting, but I seriously doubt it will have much affect against anyone in the USA, just overseas.
Also, YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE MATCH, there is no option on a session to play more than ONE game. You can enter a lobby and keep inviting which is the fastest way to get matches going. Maximum of 8 players in a session.
WasFemto
10-05-2004, 11:01 AM
Also, YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE MATCH, there is no option on a session to play more than ONE game. You can enter a lobby and keep inviting which is the fastest way to get matches going. Maximum of 8 players in a session.
I read about that in Gamespot's preview. That's :lame:
As if enough people didn't like this game already...
Thanx for the info tho' :tup:
SilentNinja
10-05-2004, 04:36 PM
Also, YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE MATCH, there is no option on a session to play more than ONE game. You can enter a lobby and keep inviting which is the fastest way to get matches going. Maximum of 8 players in a session.
Not a problem to me.
Kouga
10-05-2004, 06:23 PM
Are the infinites in? It seems to be disputed whether they are or not.
Kayin
10-05-2004, 06:29 PM
Are the infinites in? It seems to be disputed whether they are or not.
Geese's is still there, but the timing is alot harder.
Dork Tower
10-05-2004, 06:33 PM
Also, YOU CAN ONLY PLAY ONE MATCH, there is no option on a session to play more than ONE game.
good that's all i'll probably want to play anyway lol. man why is this game 50 friggin dollars. i want to buy it just to support 2d fighting games, but with GG at 19.99 and Cvs at 29.99 at launch, $50 for an inferior game just seems hard to swallow
CrotchMonkey
10-05-2004, 10:29 PM
i want to buy it just to support 2d fighting games, but with GG at 19.99 and Cvs at 29.99 at launch, $50 for an inferior game just seems hard to swallow
yeah i was planning on buying all the 2d fighters to support but 50 dollars.... like i said before i wouldnt pay .50 cents in an arcade to play chaos why would i pay 50 dollars.
snk is going high with prices, the 2k3/2k4 bundle is at 40 dollars. ill most likely buy the kof bundle then wait for gamestop to get a used chaos for like 20-30 bucks.
DreamTR
10-06-2004, 09:48 AM
Retail price is 39.99, not 49.99
UrIeNaToR
10-06-2004, 10:49 AM
SAYS 49.99 ON THE EBWORLD WEBSITE, JASON...http://ebworld.com/ebx/product/241718.asp
DreamTR
10-06-2004, 10:54 AM
Damn, they raised the price, My mistake= /
UrIeNaToR
10-06-2004, 11:03 AM
i know..it sux....
Bahn Yuki
10-07-2004, 01:25 AM
Dream, did you noticed they fix universal charge? I can charge DB with Guile and now get flash kicks out, I couldn't in the arcade.
Anyway the game seems a little easier on the controls to me and the way they changed the effects was very welcome. I just wish they ran a filter on the backdrops cause some really look lackluster. On the bright side the character portraits when they talk shit to each other before a battle look great. And yes this game is in 480P, the intro looks fantastic, a shame the whole game couldn't look that sharp!
BTW Color Edit mode is very cool as the names you can display are a lot longer than those in CVS2. Also the sound effects have a lot of "oomph" to them, lighting people on fire, or getting knocked down really uses that BASS. As far was editing the soundtrack, sorry but no ADX in this game, seems to be using the XSB, XWB formats which I know of, but never could get them to work, if anyone has info, please PM me.
ShinMilkManX
10-07-2004, 09:28 AM
Yeah I will pick this up on Friday.
I noticed on the Demo that it played much nicer than the arcade version and the cleaned up effects are cool also. $50.00 is steep but I just want to support SNK and Capcom any way I can.
UrIeNaToR
10-07-2004, 11:53 AM
Yeah I will pick this up on Friday.
I noticed on the Demo that it played much nicer than the arcade version and the cleaned up effects are cool also. $50.00 is steep but I just want to support SNK and Capcom any way I can.
YEAH, SAME HERE. YOU'VE GOTTA support them even if the game is known to be lackluster...
DreamTR
10-07-2004, 01:53 PM
Bahn, they did not fix it. You can do them easier, but you still need to do it the SNK way., not the capcom charging way....
kite raiser
10-07-2004, 02:36 PM
If your so desperate to play this shit online just stick to kaillera, better then wasting $50 on a steaming turd
Vildiil
10-07-2004, 09:05 PM
I got to play this today at the mall they had it at gamestop. I was actually pleasently suprised they put this game on the xbox, I always walk in their hoping that just once they would have a 2d fighter on there, since there are literally no Arcades in my area. I ended up winning all my matchs against random people even though I was playing horribly on the s-pad I barely could shoryuken lol. I found the game to be actually pretty fun I may pick it up just to mess around with.
shinma
10-08-2004, 02:17 AM
I got to play this today at the mall they had it at gamestop. I was actually pleasently suprised they put this game on the xbox, I always walk in their hoping that just once they would have a 2d fighter on there, since there are literally no Arcades in my area. I ended up winning all my matchs against random people even though I was playing horribly on the s-pad I barely could shoryuken lol. I found the game to be actually pretty fun I may pick it up just to mess around with.
You wouldnt happen to live in ft.myers would you??
Vildiil
10-08-2004, 04:11 AM
You wouldnt happen to live in ft.myers would you??
Yeah I do, do you?
Rick Fn Stalvey
10-08-2004, 01:19 PM
Just picked up SVC and its alright, thereis just two things aboutit that REALLY pisses me off. One the one match bullshit that fukin sucks and GC is just as hard for me as GGXX Live air dashing. Maybe its just me, but I think that one match shit ruins the online feature.
An4LDr1p
10-08-2004, 05:24 PM
ummm...for some reason the lag is terrible....i mean weres then cvs2..
i have a 3mb cable connection and it still lags really bad.......by the way, i live in Illinois would that have anything to do with it?!
becuz this shit is really pissing me off....i can't play one normal match what so ever.....it's allways laggy even if it sais the connection is "VERY FAST"
i love this game and now i can't ever play it online normaly.....wtf!
Silent Peanuts
10-08-2004, 05:27 PM
Zeros infinite is in too,The timing is harder like Geeses infinite.
Saotome99
10-08-2004, 07:21 PM
I bought this game in the morning and I have to say its a pretty good game so far.
Yes their is no rematch feature but their is a Lobby room were you can stay with a group and keep rematching people.
The touched up on the graphics and supers.
At first the lag was bad when I first played it in the morning.
But now the lag is better then CvS2 lag. Some people have pulled on me though? What does that do to the score, I hope not like CvS.
The Geese infinit is their because I have done it.
Zero's I have tried repeatedly and can't get it off. So their both hard to do so are practically irrelevant I believe.
I also tested out one of the glitches. On arcade I could always do the instant Earthquack kill with Hugo. On X-box I can't so they removed that.
accord
10-09-2004, 04:06 AM
I just got this game on friday, 50 bucks is way too expensive but I'm desperate for a new fighting game. The retouched graphics are pretty cool, fireballs has the transparency look to it. For some reason, Earthquake looks HUGE in the xbox version.
I bought this game for online play, and I have to say, its pretty disappointing. The lag totally ruins the game. Forget about doing comboes, you'll be lucky to pull off 2 in 1s. Good luck try to play people in japan, there is almost a half second lag to it.....for some reason they play like there is no lag to it. :tup:
Anothing thing I dont like about this game is they put super akuma and Athena in the game, and I've seen people abusing then online, lame......
ShinMilkManX
10-09-2004, 10:59 AM
So far no lag for me. I really wished they would have fixed some of the collisions and the Capcom charicters Universal Charge.
Captain Ryu
10-09-2004, 03:00 PM
So far I got button delay with everyone more so then cvs. Its only been random people though so hopefully it gets better.
Captain Ryu
10-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Ok just played combo breaker's random ass... All I have to say is the lag is fucking garbage. Thise dude is supposed to live close to me. Only like tops 45-mins to an hour away and the delay felt like fucking ny to cali in cvs only a little bit worse. About1/4 to 1/2 second delay. Shit sucks...
Time_Stop
10-09-2004, 04:39 PM
The host can disable bosses on Live, and people at teamxbox, herv, gamefaqs, s-c.com and n-g.com all report lag as minimal (like a couple people here). So check your connection.
Captain Ryu
10-09-2004, 04:46 PM
My connection is fine. Those sites said guilty gear had no lag either. They dont know what they are talking about.
gl0ry
10-09-2004, 05:16 PM
The host can disable bosses on Live, and people at teamxbox, herv, gamefaqs, s-c.com and n-g.com all report lag as minimal (like a couple people here). So check your connection.
You forgot to mention that people on s-c.com and gamefaqs say guilty gear doesn't have much lag and is playable online. :lame:
WasFemto
10-10-2004, 12:22 AM
My connection is fine. Those sites said guilty gear had no lag either. They dont know what they are talking about.
I post at the xbox.com forums and people tell me to stop talking(typing?)shit about the lag. I don't troll or anything but someone new comes in asking about the lag and just about everyone, save myself and a few other people, are like "There is no lag or delay whatsoever".
Captain Ryu
10-10-2004, 12:38 AM
I post at the xbox.com forums and people tell me to stop talking(typing?)shit about the lag. I don't troll or anything but someone new comes in asking about the lag and just about everyone, save myself and a few other people, are like "There is no lag or delay whatsoever".
It's because they are fucking stupid.
ShinMilkManX
10-10-2004, 02:52 AM
It has good and bad times. Tonight at 2:35am it was laggriffic...mainly because I think I was playing overseas folks. Earlier this afternoon though there was no lag for me.
CrotchMonkey
10-10-2004, 12:07 PM
fuck im really thinking about buying it now since kof pack was delayed... would you guys rather have bought deception?
An4LDr1p
10-10-2004, 07:45 PM
god don't by that shitty game...
i have a 3meg connection and i still lag really badley. i mean some how manage but it's in no way fun. :tdown:
i am so pissed, in japan they get networked fucking arcades....now i wanna live in tokyo and play online arcade games
BUT NO! every one in the american market is fucking retarted. they don't support arcades and every thing has to be 3d fan-fucking-frikken-gay-tacler OH LOOK IT's FUCKING GAY ASS 3D WOW!!!! IT'S SOOOO GODDAMN! FUCKIN FUN...but the gameplay sucks....BUT WOW IT'S 3D!!!. WTF!!!!! this shit is fucking GAY! I PAYED 50 BUCKS FOR WHAT I CAN JUST EMULATE AND THIS IS THE FUCKING SHIT I GET!!!!!!
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Mr Mort
10-10-2004, 08:04 PM
Bahn, they did not fix it. You can do them easier, but you still need to do it the SNK way., not the capcom charging way....
Could you elaborate on that please?
I got the game a couple of days ago, and it seems I can't even pull off a simple flash kick or sonic boom. What's the deal? What's the "SNK" way of doing a charging move? (I suspect you must press back then forward, and cannot go from a defensive crouch to forward to throw a sonic boom)
Also, I've never played the game before, nor any other SNK fighter. Is there an online guide somewhere that explains the mechanics of the game? For example, what happens when your super meter is at "maximum" and is counting down. I'm just trying to understand the gameplay mechanics. Any help is appreciated.
Testaclement
10-11-2004, 05:16 AM
Well for charge moves with controller I found its much easier to do them by taping them instead of rubbing.
Like charge downback tap up +kick etc. And it works pretty good that way. Not sure for joystick though.
Maxmode you can do as many supers as possible before time runs out. You can also supercancel/specialcancel moves as well. You can also combo any regular attack.
SNK Guitarist
10-11-2004, 07:05 AM
SvC just has crapped controls. I can do charge moves in KOF just like I do in Capcom games, but this game just seems to be on a whole other level of retardedness. The Xbox version is especially different as well, because for some odd reason I can't do Mr. Karate's db, f + k to save my life. I'll load up the same rom on my Xbox and it'll come out fine, using the same controller and everything.
All these moves not coming out makes my head spin.. :tdown:
ShinMilkManX
10-11-2004, 12:11 PM
Yeah I cant get Mr Karate's kick to function right either. I can get it like 1 out of 10 tries.
For some reason though I can play Kim and not have a problem with his charge DWN,,UP+K move. Now Guile....shiieet. Cant do that very well either.
Every game I have played online has not had any lag at all on my end.
I am enjoying both this and deception a whole lot.
SilentNinja
10-11-2004, 01:51 PM
Charge timing in this game is incredibly different....
Still, I continue to play this game with most moves working.
CrotchMonkey
10-12-2004, 12:38 AM
my gamecrazy gets this tuesday, worth it or should i just buy it out of sympathy for snk?
Saotome99
10-12-2004, 12:57 AM
For those that I have played live good games everyone.
My name on live is berszerk. Damn I didn't know earthquake was so good.
Mr. Karate's downback>>foward kick isn't hard if you tap it not rub. All charge moves are easier if you tap them with controller.
accord
10-12-2004, 01:37 AM
Yea, Earthquake is pretty good, but he's virtually unplayable with lag. I'm pretty sure most of you already played my earthquake . My gamertag is FIRE HADOKEN.....and I'm actually getting my ass handed to me right now :sad:
I think I pissed alot of people off with my earthquake, but he's all I can use since I cant do any comboes with stupid xbox controller.
Anybody want to trade my modded xbox for a hori real arcade stick?? I cant stand playing with this stupid pad anymore.
accord
10-12-2004, 02:20 AM
Haha, good game berserke, I think I played you last night. You totally kicked my ass with mr. karate. good game. Ryu is actually my best guy but I you just waite till I get my joystick :tup: Then it is on!
Saotome99
10-12-2004, 03:11 AM
I didn't kick your ass man that fight was freaking close.
Damn your earthquake is a bitch to beat when I was Sagat it was very difficult. Another player like you plays a mean earthquake his name was jack or jake one of the top 20 people.
Have you fought Zazzenen or whatever his name is his chunli is freaking tough.
Thats weird after our fight accord X-box live won't let me on. Very weird.
accord
10-12-2004, 02:01 PM
I didn't kick your ass man that fight was freaking close.
Damn your earthquake is a bitch to beat when I was Sagat it was very difficult. Another player like you plays a mean earthquake his name was jack or jake one of the top 20 people.
Have you fought Zazzenen or whatever his name is his chunli is freaking tough.
Thats weird after our fight accord X-box live won't let me on. Very weird.
Yea, I fought the other earthquake player a while back. We had a couple of earthquake vs earthquake matches and we were dead even. We eventually had to gave up because for some reason, cuz quake vs quake tends to slow down the server and game ALOT!
I dont think I've seen zazzenen yet.
I have the same problem after we fought, I cant sign on xbox live too. I was worried you might think I chickened out or someting :lol:
DreamTR
10-12-2004, 02:11 PM
accord, you and I played one game, my Dhalsim vs your Earthquake. I would GLADLY play vs your Ryu anyday though, Earthquake mismatches Dhalsim =(
Also, accord, you should paly vs KINGSAILORMOON. He plays Earthquake a tad better, and has a crazy good record....
Also, if you want that Hori Stick, I have one boxed, but I want a modded XBOX and cash for it =P
kite raiser
10-12-2004, 04:00 PM
EQ is pure lag abuse and cheese, I played against scrubs abusing him on kaillera ages ago.
How many people play this on live anyway? considering I can play it for free on kaillera it better be a lot, but I doubt that
accord
10-12-2004, 09:26 PM
accord, you and I played one game, my Dhalsim vs your Earthquake. I would GLADLY play vs your Ryu anyday though, Earthquake mismatches Dhalsim =(
Also, accord, you should paly vs KINGSAILORMOON. He plays Earthquake a tad better, and has a crazy good record....
Also, if you want that Hori Stick, I have one boxed, but I want a modded XBOX and cash for it =P
My earthquake is actually work in progress, it will be better. :tup: Ryu is actually my best character but I cant do crazy comboes with a pad and with a lag, so I stick to characters that is eazy to use like earthquake just for now :badboy: Just wait till I get my stick and you all will see the power of RYUUUUUUUUU!
And by the way, what is your gamertag?
Saotome99
10-13-2004, 12:11 AM
Hey Sup DreamTR.
I fought you with Bison and you choose Dhalsim good fight man. Next time I'll fight you with Terry.
My little brother wanted to fight you more in guilty grear with his zappa against your potemkin. You kept denying his matches though and only faught him once? He uses Zappa, Testament, and Venom. While I use Slayer and Ky.
Our handle's name is berszerk.
ShinMilkManX
10-13-2004, 12:35 PM
accord, you and I played one game, my Dhalsim vs your Earthquake. I would GLADLY play vs your Ryu anyday though, Earthquake mismatches Dhalsim =(
Also, accord, you should paly vs KINGSAILORMOON. He plays Earthquake a tad better, and has a crazy good record....
Also, if you want that Hori Stick, I have one boxed, but I want a modded XBOX and cash for it =P
Yeah KINGSAILORMOON has a nasty EQ. Hey we need to play again DreamTR.
DreamTR
10-15-2004, 11:56 AM
Accord, I don't fear any Ryu in SVC Chaos. Dhalsim matches up well against him. Just like how EQ matches up well against Dhalsim.
Berserk, I would not play him again in GG because the connection is only "Good". It is very, VERY hard to play unless I use the EXCELLENT conditions. SHin, Send me an invite. Did you know Ed Tang is coming to stay at Geoff's apt this weekend?
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