JPN SFA Being Recalled

[buttasuperb]

just passing the word along

http://gmr.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3136003

lol

Glad I ordered mine right away.

[nyteblitZ]

Holy shit, luckily i got mine ASAP as well. I hope they don't ban account on XBL for it :(.

[SNK Guitarist]

Is there anyway possible Microsoft can block US players from playing the copies that they already have of the Japan version? Would seem a waste to import it only to not be able to do anything online with it.

[mastermind]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Gah damn it don't ruin this for everyone, Capcom! I don't want to cancel my order damn it. :sad:

[Zeruel]

Crapola, this is the story of my life... :(

I placed an order with NCS yesterday. I wonder what they're planning on doing, because if they're going to ship out the new version, I'm going to drop my order out and wait out until February for the US version.

[AlkalineX]

Thats right you retards...
Told you importing this shit is BAD idea...

Now I have to LOL @ SNAAAKE ...
brb while I fix his bitch ass :p

[Space Lion]

Is there anyway possible Microsoft can block US players from playing the copies that they already have of the Japan version? Would seem a waste to import it only to not be able to do anything online with it.It's quite possible. All it takes is an XBox Live update from Microsoft and BAM... no more Live play for the game. I'm not saying it will happen. Just remember, Live belongs to Microsoft, and Capcom USA would lose a lot of money if this continued.

I think it really sucks that we (USA players) have to wait more than three months to play the game on Live, and I definitely don't condone Capcom USA's senseless game delays. But banning the W-Code game from Live play would ensure more sales for the Capcom USA game. Thing is, such a measure can and will work, and they can make us wait even longer for the USA version (and raise the price) if they want to. Welcome to the wonderful world of capitalism, folks.

This is part of the reason why I don't rush to make purchases when news spreads like wildfire on the internet. I had a feeling something crazy would happen with this game, and I decided against importing (for once). Capcom would lose a lot by letting something like this go untouched, and they did something about it. It sucks for us, but you really can't blame 'em for it. They have to keep the lights on too, you know.

[SNK FOREVER]

Strange, because the game is delayed over here in The Netherlands to... Anyway there is no new release date confirmed yet......:(

[TheHuschka]

Doh! :wow:

Man, after dropping some cash on this, I hope they don't shut us down. They should just chalk it up to one big ooops! and let the Americans play 'em if they've got 'em.

[mastermind]

Just sent an email to NCS. Not more than 20 minutes later, I got a response:

Hello, the shipment that will arrive on Monday is still the W-encoded first batch of SF Anniversary Collection. It has shipped already from Japan.

Capcom has not reprinted another version of the game yet. Thanks for checking with us.

Now...if they will just not ban us from XBL for having this version.

[FMJaguar]

banning the game from live play would cause capcom (and more importantly microsoft) a lot of trouble they don't want IMO. Thats not to say they won't do it tho. My first thought was that someone found a way to use it as a boot disc or somthing, it seems odd that we would all know it's region free weeks ago, and only now they are recalling it.

[Skyl]

i don't know... CVS2:EO is region-free too. Although the release date issue wasn't there

[bassventura]

Hey you guys if you cant get hold of a jap version the UK SFAC might be universal, ofcourse I am just guessing here. But if that is the case then you can order from Uk sites.

[SNK FOREVER]

I checked a release list from a local gamestore and the game probably will arrive on monday in Holland and probably most other European countries as well (besides England because those lucky English people can already beast online lol). Let's hope it is true so all you Americans and canadian people can import it from over here in Europe and play the game to, otherwise you guys just have to wait untill February, o well, life can be a bitch sometimes, well, time flies when you have fun LOL.

[doujinshi_2001]

Just sent an email to NCS. Not more than 20 minutes later, I got a response:



Now...if they will just not ban us from XBL for having this version.

Thanks for emailing them, now I know who to order from now

[Corsair]

Now, I have a question. The Japanese version is missing this code to make it work only for Japan right? Then how can XBL know that your using an imported version of SFAC? What tells them that you are?

[CE-Guile]

What is the point? Just imagine how high your ping will be compared to a player in Japan? There will be too much delay and lag like ST on Kalliera I assume.

[gl0ry]

What is the point? Just imagine how high your ping will be compared to a player in Japan? There will be too much delay and lag like ST on Kalliera I assume.

First off the point is that alot of SRK players import the game and we play each other... It's US to US connection. Second off play asia has notified people that this game could be played on any region xbox for a while now. I seriously doubt capcom of japan didn't know what they were doing. The only reason I can see why they recalled it is because capcom of usa got upset because they know people will just import it instead of buying the US version. Most SF fans are hardcore fans anyways and most of us would just import it instead of waiting 4 more months. Capcom of USA will make no money if everyone just imported the JP ver. If they alter the game any I imagine they will just add the region lock on it. For everyone who already ordered the first batch of w-coded discs we shouldn't be affected at all when it comes to live play.

[Dali]

First off the point is that alot of SRK players import the game and we play each other... It's US to US connection. Second off play asia has notified people that this game could be played on any region xbox for a while now. I seriously doubt capcom of japan didn't know what they were doing. The only reason I can see why they recalled it is because capcom of usa got upset because they know people will just import it instead of buying the US version. Most SF fans are hardcore fans anyways and most of us would just import it instead of waiting 4 more months. Capcom of USA will make no money if everyone just imported the JP ver. If they alter the game any I imagine they will just add the region lock on it. For everyone who already ordered the first batch of w-coded discs we shouldn't be affected at all when it comes to live play.


So that means its too late for me? :sad: I wont have the money on my account until Monday morning, this sucks!

The DaliPicard

[gl0ry]

So that means its too late for me? :sad: I wont have the money on my account until Monday morning, this sucks!

The DaliPicard

No. Order it now and you should be fine. Wait another week then probably not.

[N-Ken]

Also keep in mind that they cant just pull back, recode, then redistribute an entire game in a day. And I dont even think they can force a take back from stores who have already bought it, they can just stop distribution, though I could be off on that.

[JumpsuitJesse]

On top of that, it would be a really bad move if MS and Capcom make this a bigger deal than what it really is. It's bad enough that Xbox isnt doing so well in Japan....then pull something like this and it really underminds the publics confidence in the Xbox....doesnt matter if its a Capcom game....they just know that it's Xbox and that they have a recall.

They'd be better off recalling NEW unopened versions and let the sold ones count as leakage.

This could also benefit us as Capcom may just look at the simple solution and say "Well, let's just give the players what they want" and release the game asap.

I just ordered mine. Now I have to buy another Xbox because mines is modded.

Also, I don't think MS would really do anything to lock out SF2 AE because I would assume that some connections do go through the USA....and since places in the East are going to be getting the game soon also I would think that maybe somehow our networks here in the usa do have somekind of effect....but that's just hoping :)

[AlkalineX]

I'm still amazed at the retardednes...ohh too strong it is in srk...

Has anyone actually got the Japanese version, and played in THE USA with it?

If not, how are you assuming you can play it in the USA with other players?

[gl0ry]

I'm still amazed at the retardednes...ohh too strong it is in srk...

Has anyone actually got the Japanese version, and played in THE USA with it?

If not, how are you assuming you can play it in the USA with other players?

DreamTR is from the US and so is Nash421. The live options are pretty much identical to that of CVS2 live. You can log on and choose domestic or worldwide and that is determined by what you set your location to.

[DVS1]

AlkalineX you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I got the game and I'm playing against US PLAYERS. I guess it's cool to act like you're some know-it-all. Too bad it's the complete opposite. Include yourself in that retardedness on SRK you proclaim.

[SNAAAAKE]

I'm still amazed at the retardednes...ohh too strong it is in srk...

Has anyone actually got the Japanese version, and played in THE USA with it?

If not, how are you assuming you can play it in the USA with other players?

You wanna stop with your pointless BS and grow the fuck up already mr. 34 year old still playin games and living with mom..The game is fucking W-coded and you CAN play the jap/NTSC version on american xbox with american players.I seen 5 people playing it today.

[JigglyPuffKilla]

Just ordered my copy from national console support. Man $7.00 shipping is steep but I gotta play og street fighter on live. I hope I get the batch that's W encoded

[bahn]

I been playing the game w/o any problems...all this talk about "random disconnects" is bullshit.

[ken_dong]

Damn, I'm so fucking waiting for this game... -__-

[x_tremer]

are you guys sure they will take out the w-code? That would be gay as hell. I heard they might fix that black drop screen on live though instead? I probably should import this right now if thats the case, ill wait a few days.

Anyone imported it from lik-sang?
free shipping and all im going for it.

[Rei]

I'm still amazed at the retardednes...ohh too strong it is in srk...

Has anyone actually got the Japanese version, and played in THE USA with it?

If not, how are you assuming you can play it in the USA with other players?
Hello Alkalinex.

My name is Rei. You can find me on Live under the name Raisinhell. I live in Los Angeles. I own an American xbox. It is not modified in any way. My brother is Kingraoh on both Live and SRK. He also lives in Los Angeles. He owns an American xbox. It is not modified in any way. We both purchased the Japanese version of AE. We have played in THE USA with it. We have played in THE USA against each other using American Live accounts. I am not assuming anything. I have done it, and will continue to do it.

[x_tremer]

Does that mean they took out the w-code? Well i better import now if they did.

If i order from lik-sang.com right now, Will i get the batches of region free discs??? Whoever else that is importing from liksang?

has capcom already distributed the new batch of games yet?

[EffOff]

Hello Alkalinex.

My name is Rei. You can find me on Live under the name Raisinhell. I live in Los Angeles. I own an American xbox. It is not modified in any way. My brother is Kingraoh on both Live and SRK. He also lives in Los Angeles. He owns an American xbox. It is not modified in any way. We both purchased the Japanese version of AE. We have played in THE USA with it. We have played in THE USA against each other using American Live accounts. I am not assuming anything. I have done it, and will continue to do it.

If you talk to AlkalineX like he is a handicapped child, then he might understand what you have to say. I think he got your point. :rofl:

[Charcoal]

Hi guys,

Just so you guys know all the shops in Akihabara did take them off the shelves by Sat Oct 30th. I must have visited 10 game shops and none of them had SFAC for the Xbox. I ended up ordering the game from Amazon Japan. They shipped it today so I'll probably get it tomorrow.
When I was in Akihabara I did pick the Hori Real Arcade Pro Stick for about 6900 yen and converter from Ugames for 1800 yen.
They work great together on fighting games, no lag. I'll have to get a second Xbox though since mine is modified hehe.
Anyone living in Tokyo and can speak English and wants to meet up at a gamecenter let me know! Just pm me.

Charcoal

[Lord Durrell]

So do this mean i can't play japanese players with us verison. :sad:

[sifu98]

Charcoal how does the Hori pro arcade stick play and feel?
is it more like SCII stick or the DC stick?

[Charcoal]

So do this mean i can't play japanese players with us verison. :sad:

I have no idea about that. But with the lag it might not be very fun...

Charcoal

[Charcoal]

Charcoal how does the Hori pro arcade stick play and feel?
is it more like SCII stick or the DC stick?

Well it feels just like the arcade sticks in Japan. The only difference is that the buttons are a little bit futher away from the joystick but that depends on the cabinet you compare it too really. Build quality is awesome. I like it better than the DC sticks but not sure about the SCII ones since I don't have one of those. Just get one if you want the real japanese arcade feel, its that good!

Charcoal

[sifu98]

Well it feels just like the arcade sticks in Japan. The only difference is that the buttons are a little bit futher away from the joystick but that depends on the cabinet you compare it too really. Build quality is awesome. I like it better than the DC sticks but not sure about the SCII ones since I don't have one of those. Just get one if you want the real japanese arcade feel, its that good!

Charcoal

just to let you know im ordering that stick right now :P
thnx for the info ;)

[Charcoal]

Cool np. I'm glad I could help.

Charcoal

[AlkalineX]

Meh,
THe fact of the matter is CAPCOM WILL STOP all you people in the USA from playing the game so ya You are fucking stupid for buying it...

1, Already like maybe 10 people have the game in the USA
2, NOw the new version only works in Japan so new people can't play
3, You paid 2x for the game and probably won't be able to play against people that have the USA version of the game so you'll have to buy it again.
4, Capcom will issue an online update that will stop this w-code bs so whoop-de-do to the 3 people here that can play... Oh wait they can't cause no one is fucking on live with this shit.
As for REI, ya sounds great, but you do realize your brother and live in the same area you can just play the damn game at home instead of going on live?

[Rei]

Meh,
THe fact of the matter is CAPCOM WILL STOP all you people in the USA from playing the game so ya You are fucking stupid for buying it...

1, Already like maybe 10 people have the game in the USA
2, NOw the new version only works in Japan so new people can't play
3, You paid 2x for the game and probably won't be able to play against people that have the USA version of the game so you'll have to buy it again.
4, Capcom will issue an online update that will stop this w-code bs so whoop-de-do to the 3 people here that can play... Oh wait they can't cause no one is fucking on live with this shit.
As for REI, ya sounds great, but you do realize your brother and live in the same area you can just play the damn game at home instead of going on live?
If I really want competition, I can drive up to Family Fun Arcade for a few quick games. Yet you are missing the point.

I am a 3rd Striker.

One of the ones that was going to tournaments before there was a 3rd Strike revival. I have been coordinating and throwing tournaments in New Mexico for the past three years. I've been to all of the evolutions, and have gone through the trouble of traveling to Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas for the specific purpose of playing 3rd Strike with a variety of opponents.

Do you really think that the cost of an xbox, a live account, and an imported game really matters all that much to me when I'm willing to shell out for airfare, hotel rooms, meals and entry fee just to find a wider variety of people to play? I may end up paying 2x for a game, but I don't care. I've payed more for less in terms of 3rd Strike just to play because Capcom and SRK hate the 3rd Strikers.

To answer your question about my brother... Yes, I do realize that we live in the same city, and he can come over to my house and play on my 3rd Strike arcade set-up. That isn't the point. I have made several friends over the years when I have traveled to tournaments. I am very excited over the proposition of playing several people that I already know. Many whom live in other states.

So, am I stupid for gambling on the possibility of having to pay for a game twice? Maybe you think so, but that cost is small change compared to the plane tickets that I just bought so that I could go to a small 3rd Strike tournament in the middle of no where.

[x_tremer]

Meh,
THe fact of the matter is CAPCOM WILL STOP all you people in the USA from playing the game so ya You are fucking stupid for buying it...

1, Already like maybe 10 people have the game in the USA
2, NOw the new version only works in Japan so new people can't play
3, You paid 2x for the game and probably won't be able to play against people that have the USA version of the game so you'll have to buy it again.
4, Capcom will issue an online update that will stop this w-code bs so whoop-de-do to the 3 people here that can play... Oh wait they can't cause no one is fucking on live with this shit.
As for REI, ya sounds great, but you do realize your brother and live in the same area you can just play the damn game at home instead of going on live?

and where did you get this info from?? Bs

[timekillr]

Meh,
THe fact of the matter is CAPCOM WILL STOP all you people in the USA from playing the game so ya You are fucking stupid for buying it...

1, Already like maybe 10 people have the game in the USA
2, NOw the new version only works in Japan so new people can't play
3, You paid 2x for the game and probably won't be able to play against people that have the USA version of the game so you'll have to buy it again.
4, Capcom will issue an online update that will stop this w-code bs so whoop-de-do to the 3 people here that can play... Oh wait they can't cause no one is fucking on live with this shit.
As for REI, ya sounds great, but you do realize your brother and live in the same area you can just play the damn game at home instead of going on live?


I highly doubt that Capcom will remove the W-code spec to the game. Most likely they're trying to fix the BSOD.

It would do ABSOLUTELY no good to anyone to just ban the ppl using XBL with the JP version. MS is only banning ppl on XBL for using modchips, which is quite normal, and for unruly behavior.

Since you do NOT need a modchip to play the game here, there is NO point in banning anyone using XBL. Besides, everyone and their dog knew that the game would be W-Code, region-free. Even MS. Why would they all of a sudden realize the game came out like that? Hell most Xbox games are W-Code, you guys just don't know it. Want proof? Change the language of your Xbox to Spanish for example, and run most commercial games. Presto, a LOT of them will have Spanish text. It's also the same for many PS2 titles, and even a bunch of DC games(PSO comes to mind).

[WasFemto]

Should've imported this but...oh well. How does it play online?

[buttasuperb]

If they recalled it to fix the black screen of death issue, it kinda sucks for us who ordered it right away...unless wherever you ordered it from will allow you to return it for a fixed one.

If they recalled it to take out the w-code, then it's great for the people who ordered it early.

[x_tremer]

Update: Nov 01, 2004
NCS has restocked the region-free edition of Street Fighter Anniversary Collection and all backorders received prior to Sunday at 3:00PM EST will ship today. Any backorders received after that time will ship on Wednesday (Nov. 3) when we restock.

It seems like ncsx.com has restocked on SFAC, i don't know if that is the newer version or not. Can anyone confirm? They say its still region free though. Maybe they have fixed the BSOD.

[doujinshi_2001]

I highly doubt that Capcom will remove the W-code spec to the game. Most likely they're trying to fix the BSOD.

It would do ABSOLUTELY no good to anyone to just ban the ppl using XBL with the JP version. MS is only banning ppl on XBL for using modchips, which is quite normal, and for unruly behavior.

Since you do NOT need a modchip to play the game here, there is NO point in banning anyone using XBL. Besides, everyone and their dog knew that the game would be W-Code, region-free. Even MS. Why would they all of a sudden realize the game came out like that? Hell most Xbox games are W-Code, you guys just don't know it. Want proof? Change the language of your Xbox to Spanish for example, and run most commercial games. Presto, a LOT of them will have Spanish text. It's also the same for many PS2 titles, and even a bunch of DC games(PSO comes to mind).


You have a point...everyone and their mom knew this game was gonna be W-Coded. Shit, it was all over magicbox, Gamestop and any other game info site so I_somewhat_doubt that they are recalling it because of the W-Code factor. It's not like this could limit sales on the US Xbox version coming out in Febuary, because it seems only SRKers and Japanese/Europeans are playing on live.

In other words, there aren't much casual US players playing on live just SRK'ers.

Just a thought I had....

[SilentNinja]

Oh well, I've been planning to buy the import before DOA Ultimate. Capcom still loves to screw their fans till Resident Evil 4 gets Game of the Year :lame:

btw, how bad is playing Super Turbo on Live?(Not 3rd Strike, Hyper Street Fighter 2)

[nyteblitZ]

Not bad at all, i played around 20 matches with no lag whatsoever.

[SilentNinja]

Not bad at all, i played around 20 matches with no lag whatsoever.
Hopefully better than SvC Chaos....

[buttasuperb]

Hopefully better than SvC Chaos....

I haven't had much lag playing SvC online.

GGX2 on the other hand...

[Havoc]

I highly doubt that Capcom will remove the W-code spec to the game. Most likely they're trying to fix the BSOD.


I disagree. I highly doubt Capcom is fixing the BSOD. That really just seems like something that can be patched. The W-Code problem can't be patched to fix it completely. I don't know if they can fix something like that with a patch anyway, but they definitely can't patch a game for somebody that doesn't even play online. So they import, and don't buy the US release.

Also, the PAL version has the BSOD. They didn't recall those.

[timekillr]

I disagree. I highly doubt Capcom is fixing the BSOD. That really just seems like something that can be patched. The W-Code problem can't be patched to fix it completely. I don't know if they can fix something like that with a patch anyway, but they definitely can't patch a game for somebody that doesn't even play online. So they import, and don't buy the US release.

Also, the PAL version has the BSOD. They didn't recall those.

It's impossible to fix the W-Code "problem" with a patch(again, most games are W-Code, they just aren't region-free; there's a huge difference).

But as someone else mentioned, the region-free thing has been known for a HELL of a long time. MS would have stopped them earlier if it was a problem. Believe me, they WILL catch that sort of thing.

What highly puzzles me however is the BSOD. I personally know how bitchy and anal-retentive the MS QA TRC teams are, and they normally should have caught that, which leads me to believe the problem lies in the actual use of Xbox Live. The bug probably doesn't happen on a closed XBL dev network... We'll see what happens. In any case, mine's coming in the mail, so all I want is an XBL patch to fix the BSOD.

I am 99% certain that MS won't ban ppl who are using the JP version of the game in US Xboxes, even if it's being recalled for that reason. The game was obtained legally, it is being played legally, so if they did ban us then we would have a legal recourse against them for unfair practices.

[x_tremer]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/11/02/news_6112062.html

recalled because of that, and the game will come back 1 month later...

[SmoothCat]

glory found the sound shit long time ago im suprise its just that maybe its the black screen as well

[CrotchMonkey]

wasnt the sound bug in cvs2 fixed with an invisible patch upon connecting to xbox live?

couldnt they have done that for hugo's stage?