Has DOA:U changed the way Fighting game matching should be done?

[DragonSama]

Ok maybe it is because I am new to live but I have to say I like the way the room are set up for DOA:U. It just feels more fun. I was playing Guilty Gear 2X before and while the one to one match was fun for a while it got very boring fighting the same guy over and over. Having to exit the room and find a new opponent is annoying as hell.

By contrast DOA:U matching feels like going to the arcade and slapping a quarter on the machine and waiting for your next turn. This is by far a more enjoyable mode of on-line play.

So now I pose this question to the masses here at SRK. Should all fighters from here on out use this method of matching? (or are there any other live fighters that do this now?)

[WasFemto]

Hell yeah they should!


Team Ninja = the best developer on Xbox

[Rei]

DOA:U is easily the best fighting game online experience.

Even though SF3:3S is a superior game, the matchmaking and handling of the live portion makes DOA:U much more fun.

The built in tournament system is much better than the ghetto IRC tournaments that we have to do with capcom fighters.

[DragonSama]

Does anyone know if SF:AC uses this type of matching system?

[CrotchMonkey]

fuck capcom lazy fucking pricks.

they make good games though heh.

[Rei]

Does anyone know if SF:AC uses this type of matching system?
No it does not. SF:AC uses the same matchmaking system that CvS2 uses.

In fact, when it displays what you are playing, it says that you are playing Anniversary Collection and doesn't distinguish between AE and 3S. I've already run into the problem of playing 3S and inviting someone on my friends list that is playing AE and us both not aware of why we can't join each other until I called them up on the phone to find out if they were playing AE or 3S.

:lame:

[GyBaNO]

I agree! Capcom better get with the times.

[DragonSama]

Personally I think that all Fighters form here on out should have the rotating Arcade style matching. I find it a lot more fun than just sitting one on one all the time. Hopefully Capcom USA will take a cue from this and add this to the US version of SF:AC but I doubt it. Maybe SNK will with KOF 2002/2003 we can only hope.

[AL the great]

Dragon sama:
you still selling 3rd strike?

[bender mark2]

Who cares if the DOAU online interface is good when the actual game is a steaming pile of scrubby shit. DOAU = lame. Team ninja suck

[FMJaguar]

Who cares if the DOAU online interface is good when the actual game is a steaming pile of scrubby shit. DOAU = lame. Team ninja suck

Because some people, myself included, play DOA at all because of the online experience. A game can have the most skilled engine ever, but if the online play is lacking, it's going to hurt it's chances in the US (VF comes to mind). Supporting DOA makes it obvious to other companies that they are doing at least one part of the equation correctly, and that they need to recognize that.

[WasFemto]

Who cares if the DOAU online interface is good when the actual game is a steaming pile of scrubby shit. DOAU = lame. Team ninja suck

...and the scrub excuses continue :tdown: :rolleyes: :lame:

[bender mark2]

Not much point going into the reasons why doa is retarded because its been said time and time again on the srk boards. You just have to compare this games to something like sc2, vf4, t5 or TTT to know how bad it sucks as a 3d fighter. The doa fanbase is a tragic case of silly fanbois who talk about nothing but the girls, its really sad.

Most the team ninja fanbois are just xbox fanbois in general, gotta love the jaded fanbois. I still see idiots argue that doa is better then vf4 etc. haha, funny old world. Good online interface or not, the game still sucks

[CrotchMonkey]

yeah thats the point, im not going to pay 50 dollars to play a game for its online options if the game itself sucks anyways.

[DragonSama]

Well I never said that DOA:U was greatest game ever. What I did say was the on-line matching system is brilliant. And I really hope that more Fighters use this type of matching in the future. It just makes playing on-line a lot more fun IMHO

[Suavion]

Yea I can't lie, DOA does have a great online system. When I play cvs2 or third strike online it gets so...BORING. Only a few people talk, and it's all silent. In DOA, everyone is talking shit and watching the fight. You get to see new things and shit and everone is interactive with the fight. Someone does a move with alot of damage and everyone is like "OOOOOOhhhh did you see that!?!?!?" this game is fun online.

Suavion

[Ramon]

Suavion:

I'd be glad to have a conversation with you, but I wasn't aware that you had a mic. I'd like to ask many questions in 3rd Strike when we play. Perhaps we could exchange ideas of fighting styles and whatnot; topics such as common mistakes that we do, to the "good job" remarks on what we do right. I do understand alot of players are really silent when you play them in 3rd Strike. I've come across many who just have their mic on, I hear them tapping the buttons but alas, they do not speak what so ever. At times I will try to start a conversation if I think they have a mic and can hear me, none have yet to reply.

On a different note, I've played Dead or Alive online and it is a very fun game indeed, the trash talk is very entertaining at most times and when they do the whole "awwe-OOOH OWNED" in shock scene it is quite great to know that some one is actually amused by your moves if you manage to pull of a unthinkable counter.

In the near future, if you do manage to come across me in 3rd Strike, do not be intimidated by keeping to yourself, I wouldn't care if we had a mindless conversation and babble about various topics. It only makes the gameplay more enjoyable. That is one of the many perks of online play. Do you not agree? Until next time.

Later,

[Jared3s]

DOAU online is excellent. The ONLY reason i play the game is because i can get instant competition on a fighting game. anyone who thinks that there is no substance to his game, quite simply doesn't understand it, and should not pass judgement. i am not saying that this game takes skill (minor skill involving pressing buttons in a sequence), but it DOES take mind games. mind games is the reason that i got addicted to 3s (although 3s takes skill and thought). 3s online sucks ass. Playing 3s online is like spraypainting the mona lisa. you can get perfect games of DOAU, you CANNOT get perfect games of 3s. anyone who says that they have had perfect games of 3s is smoking weed. now please share with me! DOAU is a FAR better experience online than ANY SF game. although SF is heads and shoulders above DOA as far as gameplay is concerned. too bad sf sucks online.

[Fadedsun303]

DOA may not be the deepest fighting game ever, but it's still pretty fun to play. And i agree, all fighting games should be set up in the same manner. I have to wait for so long just to find someone to fight in GGX#R on live

[DragonSama]

I always have to wait for oppponets in GG2X#Reload, CVS2, and SVC. DOA:U does not have that problem you get in a room and go and you get toe fight more than one person at a time. It is just a lot more fun that way.

[HeartNana]

Even though i enjoy that, i still want to have the option to play 1 on 1 against somebody, but the bad part about that is if you don't have headsets, and the loser wants to leave, they have to either disconnect or win. There should be a way the loser can exit the game without having to disconnect in a 2 person room.

[Jared3s]

Even though i enjoy that, i still want to have the option to play 1 on 1 against somebody, but the bad part about that is if you don't have headsets, and the loser wants to leave, they have to either disconnect or win. There should be a way the loser can exit the game without having to disconnect in a 2 person room.

you can set the options to have 2 players only.

[HeartNana]

yea but the thing is, most people dont want to do 1 on 1s, so i cant just jump online and go into one.

And yes i know you can set the options to having 2 players only. I even mentioned it in the last sentence about having a 2 person room...

[Jared3s]

yea but the thing is, most people dont want to do 1 on 1s, so i cant just jump online and go into one.

And yes i know you can set the options to having 2 players only. I even mentioned it in the last sentence about having a 2 person room...

ooops,yeah, that's true, no one wants to play with 2 players in a room.

[Trickyicky]

Yeah, I agree. The online mode is great. Lots of different modes, the arcade-like feel (and seeing as how arcades are doing now, we need more online games like this), and a great profile system in which you can represent your country, have a custom name/message and keep a detailed record of your stats.
Not only is the setup great, the network coding is unrivaled in a fighter. Sometimes I can play Japanese players with next to no lag.

[m121akuma]

Seriously, anybody who says that DOA's online system is anything less than great is a fool. The game isn't the deepest thing ever, but it still sets a new standard.

[bender mark2]

I want a 1 on 1, can't get one.

Yeah it sets a new standard, in shitness. winner stay is shit, everyone know doa is pure random scrubiness so losing to a lucky scrub and waiting 20 minutes for another turn isn't fun. Please stop defending this shitty game, just go to doa central *** forums and suck people off there. Those retards think doa is a competitive game so you'll get on well with those scrubs

[Jared3s]

I want a 1 on 1, can't get one.

Yeah it sets a new standard, in shitness. winner stay is shit, everyone know doa is pure random scrubiness so losing to a lucky scrub and waiting 20 minutes for another turn isn't fun. Please stop defending this shitty game, just go to doa central *** forums and suck people off there. Those retards think doa is a competitive game so you'll get on well with those scrubs

DOA is not random unless you make it random. what is your GT, i go by "Kingraoh" look me up. i'm not random. i will play you 1:1. i'm not TOP TIER in this game but i will give you good matches. when will you be on or us this just random venting about how lame DOA is? also, i DO think that alot of scrubby people play DOA. i've been cursed out EVERY time i have played for the last 3 weeks. geez, people are sore losers.

Anyhow Bender, let's get some games in.

[angry_man]

winner stay is shit
i guess you don't go to arcades or play basketball on the streets or watch football or even play competitively. "i won the playoff game! now i can go home and watch the perennial super bowl"

everyone in this thread has been saying that doa isn't that great but the online system is genius
and i still haven't seen you come up with a reliable argument against it, instead just saying that doa is a horrible game.

[m121akuma]

I want a 1 on 1, can't get one.

Yeah it sets a new standard, in shitness. winner stay is shit, everyone know doa is pure random scrubiness so losing to a lucky scrub and waiting 20 minutes for another turn isn't fun. Please stop defending this shitty game, just go to doa central *** forums and suck people off there. Those retards think doa is a competitive game so you'll get on well with those scrubs
If 3S had winner-stay, you'd be all over it's nuts, and rightly so. Please, shut up. You CAN get one on one by creating a 1 on 1 game. it's not that hard.

[Jared3s]

If 3S had winner-stay, you'd be all over it's nuts, and rightly so. Please, shut up. You CAN get one on one by creating a 1 on 1 game. it's not that hard.


i absoluety WORSHIP 3s. i have the import version of the XBox Live game (anniversary collection). my brother has the game as well. he lives about 8-10 miles from me. the games we have are okay. i've played others 20 miles, 100 miles away, and 1000 miles away. the lag makes it unplayable to me (i have a VERY fast connection. i am 1000 feet from my server). if people are expecting 3s online to be playable at a competative level, they are going to be disappointed. YES, you CAN play it, but it takes away from the pace of the game. 3s requires strict timing, with lag you miss out on timing meaties correctly, parry timing, and of course you cannot reliably confirm your super. it's a different game altogether online, which to me makes it no longer the game that i fell in love with. consequently i play doa online as a substitute to my addiction for comp on fighting games.

doa IS a FAR better online experience than anniversary collections. no, it is not a better game. yes, it IS shallow compared to other fighting games, but the same basic mindgames are there...

poke, throw, set-up combo, just like in 3s. just like 3s, in DOA to be good, you have to be conscious of frame advantage/ disadvantage and what not. it's deep enough AND it is PLAYABLE online. competition on a fighting game ANY time of the day. what more do you want?

PS, now don't get me wrong i completely understand why people would not like this game. everyone is entitled to their opinion. i just don't know why, if peeps disliked this game that much, that they would take time out of thier day to bash it. welcome to SRK i suppose.

[DragonSama]

That was sort of the whole point of this thread. I never meant for this to be a “DOA RULZ” thread or a “DOA SUXORZ” thread. But rather to discus the matching system in the game. I like the arcade feel with the large rooms of people in a game. And the shear number of game options you have. I just wish that Capcom and SNK would take a queue from this matching system and do their next on-line fighters the same way.

[Jared3s]

the ONLY reason i started play DOA online is because the online system is soo good. i got anniversary collection and DOAU around the same time. i compared the two, found that 3s was horrible to me online. ended up playing the hell outta DOA because of the lagless games i can get. to my suprise i ended up liking the game. the fighting system is cool. i prefer 3s more, hell, i prefer alot of games over DOA, but the online system is too good for a competative fighting fan to give up. AND it's PLAYABLE.

[queen of combat]

i agree DOAU has a great online system. I tried to play CvS2 and GGXX#R online,it would lag sometimes and the matches got boring.
In DOAU it does play like you are in the arcade. I didn't like DOAU at first,then after playing online off and on for a month,I started to like it more. It's a lot more fun to play online than just playing against a few freinds or the comp. I am not saying it's the best 3D fighter,it does have it's good points and bad points like any game period. No game is perfect

I have not played SFAC on the xbox yet(cancelled my order for it,due to it taking forever :rolleyes: ) I hope it does not lag like CvS2. I am a big 3s fan and want to play online espically against people from other countries. I played against a S ranked japanese player in DOAU-no lag at all and barely won the fight:rofl: now that is fun :tup:

[dragonhouse2004]

my question is why would you go from playing doa3 to regressing back to doa2 with aslittle bit if changes... it really maks no sense considering that doa 3 is a hell of a lot better and 7423423324 different ways... they gaes isnt bad it just isnt good... play doa 3 make a offline scene and have a good time thats how is shoud be done

[Jared3s]

my question is why would you go from playing doa3 to regressing back to doa2 with aslittle bit if changes... it really maks no sense considering that doa 3 is a hell of a lot better and 7423423324 different ways... they gaes isnt bad it just isnt good... play doa 3 make a offline scene and have a good time thats how is shoud be done

yeah, i wish that they would have done a DOA3Ultimate online, but this is not the case. there is absolutely NO scene for doa3 where i live. Los Angeles. still, DOAU is online, i don't have to leave the hizzie. besides, i prefer to play 3s when it's head to head or when i have friends over. i am sure that many feel the same.

[dragonhouse2004]

the point is you have to MAKE one happen