When will there be more issues with Street Fighter 3 Characters?

[PerfectAkuma]

I am a fan of the comic book, but with the exception of Issue 10 that has a cameo of Yun and Yang in it, I don't see any SF3 Characters. I'm waiting for more issues with them in it. I want to see Alex vs. Balrog, Sean vs. Dan and more. OK, maybe not Sean vs. Dan, but you know what I'm talking about. Please tell me your opinions about this. I will enjoy reading them. :qcf: :p: :annoy: :lol: :clap:

[nortlee]

My opinion is that the SF3 characters shouldn't have been brought in at all until the appropriate arc, I suppose Yun could be an exception though for being in SFA3 Upper.

[Time_Stop]

Man, people really have NO patience. They´re rather have a shitty comic than a nicely-paced, nicely-written one. No wonder the comic market is in the shitter.

[Legend]

Man, people really have NO patience. They´re rather have a shitty comic than a nicely-paced, nicely-written one. No wonder the comic market is in the shitter.

lol i wonder if perfectakuma enjoyed reading that!!!

[BBCampbell]

First off: Issue 9 with Yun & Yang. (IMO, they looked too old. They should be little kids at this point if they're teenagers in SF3.)

Second off: While I too am anxiously awaiting Sean, Alex, Dudley and the other SF3 chars, throwing them in the mix right now would create a horrible clusterfuck of a comic. I can deal with SF3 cameos though...

We could realistically have Oro in the book as he is like 150 in SF3. Here's the status of the other SF3 charas currently in the timeline:

Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, Gouki: What book have you been reading?!

Oro: 130-140 years old

Gill, Urien: Possibly. There's nothing to suggest they wouldn't be old enough to fight. Probably just waiting for Shadaloo to get out of the way... Or running it...

Dudley: Probably just getting into his first boxing matches.

Alex: Still training under Tom. Probably a skinny teenager (or a fat one.)

Sean, Yun, Yang, Ibuki, Makoto, Elena, Remy: Children. Literally. Heck, Makoto & Ibuki are probably fetuses if not "just a twinkle in their dad's eyes"

Q: Who knows? (There is speculation that Q = Balrog, but that's probably as feasible as Charlie = Blanka.)

Twelve, Necro: The experiment hasn't started yet.

Hugo: Wait until the Final Fight characters show up. He'll probably be there...

[PerfectAkuma]

I didn't like what Time_Stop said, but i agree with BBCampbell about SF3 characters. As for Final Fight characters, would it be cool if Udon makes a Final Fight Comic?

[nortlee]

I have to ask what is the point of cameo's? People see a character they like in the background and get excited... Sounds kind of sad to me...

[MangaManX]

You'll get SF3 characters when the comic gets to the SF3 storyline. To feature most of them now would be incredibly stupid. Be patient. As long as we continue to support the comic you'll get your SF3 guys when the proper time in the story has come.

[Carbono]

Geez Guys, we arent even on the SF tournment(SF2) and guys already want SF3.
And lets get real here, SF3 character design is very "creative", we have a french guy with big legs, a Multi-color Guy, a Blob, a Robot...
So this can be quite a shock to "Non sf" fans, who only buys the comic because they are liking (and they dont like sf games).

My point is, lets wait, SF3 is a good game, and i even like the cast of characters, but for me, they never really fit the SF World.
But dont worry guys, soon or later they will come.

[jimmy1200]

oh and cammy, guile, and charlie fit oh so perfectly in the "street fighting world". give me a break. i love this comic, mainly because its street fighter, but its just rehasing the usual bullshit. show chunli whining about her father. do some brain wash bullshit with bison, make ken a gigolo and ryu a clean dirty warrior. i could have took this comic into the greatest zone ever if i was awarded the chance to write the story. its like those douche bags in hollywood who think they know what a martial arts flick should be like, and they cast stupid morons like jennifer garner to do martial arts. yes i will be seeing that movie, im a perv.

anyways. the street fighter 3 characters are very interesting, especially since 4 of them are from the original street fighter.
i mean makoto, sean, and oro alone would be so kick ass. hugo, alex, i mean all those characters look like fighters and aim to be fighters, and would make a hell of a story if written properly. this current arc is lame and is the same story weve been seeing from street fighter for like a decade now. the art is fantastic, but they must have got stuck in limbo with no creative thinking going on, on this comic. why not make street fighter truly about fighting for once. all the other japanese mangas based on fighting have done it, why not street fighter. street fighter has always been some melodramatic b.s. to me its never really focussed on the art of fighting so much, especially in its new medium where it could have turned street fighter around and made it interesting again. its like all the endings of the video games crammed into a comic, and that is lame.

udon if you need some help, then holler at me right now in the forums, and i will send you some story lines, scripts, whatever, because you need help over there. if its not the characters constantly doing super moves while they fight, its a lame story line that weve all heard and seen before.

to be brutally honest, the comic story sucks hard. the art is good, but that is it. if the art was any less, this comic would have been trashed by most people.

[Apathy-Inc]

Calm down.

I've already seen the anime Evangelion, but that's certainly not stopping me from racing to the comic shop to read the manga issues.
A good story is good no matter how many times you read it.

Plenty has happened in the comic already that didn't happen in the games/movies/tv shows. (ie. Charlie taking down Bison by himself, Cammy actually figuring out what/who she is, Ken's wedding fiasco, Fei Long, Chun Li and Gen taking down Ladies Xiayu and Yanyu.)

If you think you're such a great writer, there's a Fan Fiction section on these forums. Put your money where your mouth is.

Until then, sit back and enjoy the ride.

[jimmy1200]

i am calm and i would hit the fanfiction but the art is also what helps define the story, so it would be pretty lame, unless your a novel reader or something and you enjoy that type of reading without pictures :encore: daaaaaaaaaar

well the things you mentioned are useless at best. it wasnt anything really spectacular. maybe next issues big bash will be great, but i cant say. im not going to be clouded by my love for street fighter, and say that this is a decent story line. it got decent at one point, but it still lacks greatly. almost as if some terd who never loved street fighter or was never gifted with the ability to imagine and be creative, created this comic.

i mean, like ive already posted in another thread. get to real fighting, real techniques, real science, you can have some metaphysical stuff in there too, but just give me fighting. im all for the melodramatic stuff when necessary, but got damn. i could have told you the first six issues after reading the first two. typical garbage. i wanted to pick up the comic and not know what is coming next. every time i pick it up, i pretty much know what the next deal is going to be, not exactly but enough. the only issues i go back on is issues six really, the rest is crap.

my opinions are the best opinion, because their real opinions, and not some buttered up crap. it could be worse, but it can also be better. work at it please

[Apathy-Inc]

my opinions are the best opinion, because their real opinions, and not some buttered up crap. it could be worse, but it can also be better. work at it please
As opposed to fake opinions?

i am calm and i would hit the fanfiction but the art is also what helps define the story, so it would be pretty lame, unless your a novel reader or something and you enjoy that type of reading without pictures daaaaaaaaaar
That's a pretty lame cop out.
You don't need pictures to tell a story, they've been doing that kinda thing for several hundred years now.
The artist has to read the script without the pictures before he can draw it...
You said you could write a better script, so do it. Post it on the forums and we can stick your work under a microscope.

[jimmy1200]

okay, i will do it. it will be street fighter 3 characters and our classic characters as well. it will be up very soon, thankyou for calling me out.

[Sagatryu]

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[Artayes]

i am calm and i would hit the fanfiction but the art is also what helps define the story, so it would be pretty lame, unless your a novel reader or something and you enjoy that type of reading without pictures :encore: daaaaaaaaaar

well the things you mentioned are useless at best. it wasnt anything really spectacular. maybe next issues big bash will be great, but i cant say. im not going to be clouded by my love for street fighter, and say that this is a decent story line. it got decent at one point, but it still lacks greatly. almost as if some terd who never loved street fighter or was never gifted with the ability to imagine and be creative, created this comic.

i mean, like ive already posted in another thread. get to real fighting, real techniques, real science, you can have some metaphysical stuff in there too, but just give me fighting. im all for the melodramatic stuff when necessary, but got damn. i could have told you the first six issues after reading the first two. typical garbage. i wanted to pick up the comic and not know what is coming next. every time i pick it up, i pretty much know what the next deal is going to be, not exactly but enough. the only issues i go back on is issues six really, the rest is crap.

my opinions are the best opinion, because their real opinions, and not some buttered up crap. it could be worse, but it can also be better. work at it please

This character has GOT to be no older than ten or eleven. Oh man,do little, immature,snot nosed kids get on my very last nerves.

[BBCampbell]

okay, i will do it. it will be street fighter 3 characters and our classic characters as well. it will be up very soon, thankyou for calling me out.

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Are you people happy? Why did you put this idea in his head?


Oh, and Jimmy, your dad called. He wants you to get off the internet.

[TAS]

oh and cammy, guile, and charlie fit oh so perfectly in the "street fighting world".

Uhm...yeah.

Every SF character up until SF3 was created by Bengus, Akiman, and Edayan (except Karin who came from Sakura Ganbaru) so all there characters fit well together. Bengus and Akiman had been working together since SF1, and Edayan is Bengus' understudy.

Then SF3 rolls around and suddenly there are more SF3 character designers then there are actual SF3 chars (check out the SF3 credits to see what Im talking about) and none of the designs or art for SF3 were done by Bengus or Edayan (Capcom's most talented character deisners)

anyways. the street fighter 3 characters are very interesting,

Not really considering they were mostly based on concepts of pre-exisiting characters, then there's the fact that there's not enough information about the SF3 chars to make them intresting, except maybe Q because he's supposed to be "mysterious"

especially since 4 of them are from the original street fighter.


How does that make them intresting. I've never had the notion that a character was intresting because they were in a previous game.

i mean makoto, sean, and oro alone would be so kick ass.

Sean was nothing. Maybe if they hadnt downgraded him from what he was originaly supposed ot be like he would've been better, and is design is nothing either, just another head swap.

Sean has the potential to be better (in everyway) but SF3 was nothing in everyway.

hugo, alex, i mean all those characters look like fighters and aim to be fighters

Man, if you want an actual "Street Fighter" game, then play Def Jam: Fight 4 NY.

and would make a hell of a story if written properly.

Just those characters you listed would make for a terrible story, and it dosnt matter how good its written the story wouldnt be able to survive on those chars alone.

this current arc is lame

Like you could write better.

and is the same story weve been seeing from street fighter for like a decade now.

Wow, a company finally making an adaption of something that sticks close to the official storyline, damn, I mean you always hear about how fans love it when companies change story with adaptions of comics/games to movies and what not.

why not make street fighter truly about fighting for once.

Cause you know nothing about the consumer market.

In Asia they can make movies where you have and hour of fighitng and 30mins of story, but that dosnt work in the US, as audiences dont want to see a fight that lasts more then 10mins (perfect example Neo Vs The Agent Smiths in The Matrix Reloaded, way too long, got boring)

The SF games are all about fighitng, a comic actually has to have a story to keep people intrested. Comics completely devoted to action wont work, or else comics like Spider-Man, Superman, Batman, etc, would all be devoted to action or there would actually be US comics out there totaly devoted to action.

all the other japanese mangas based on fighting have done it,

No they havent.

Also go check out some SF mangas, they arent all about fighitng.

street fighter has always been some melodramatic b.s.

Do you even know what "melodramatic" means, cause SF is far from it.

to me its never really focussed on the art of fighting so much,

Since when has ANY fighting game ever (storyline wise) focused on "the art of fighitng"

Another thing, check out the fighting game based animes, like SF and Fatal Fury, they actually have storylines in them (FF's was quite good despite their was never a story like that in FF, although their are some KOF games that are similar)

udon if you need some help, then holler at me right now in the forums, and i will send you some story lines, scripts, whatever, because you need help over there. if its not the characters constantly doing super moves while they fight, its a lame story line that weve all heard and seen before.

Yeah, Im sure UDON will be real into after reading this.

i am calm and i would hit the fanfiction but the art is also what helps define the story, so it would be pretty lame, unless your a novel reader or something and you

What a weak ass excuse.

If you could write a good story then you can write one. You dont need pictures for it to be good, you having to fall back on relying on art shows how "good" you are.

Maybe you should actually go to the fan fic forum and check out some of the fan fics there that people like (just check out the ones with quite a bit of repsonses)

my opinions are the best opinion

How egotistical of you.

because their real opinions

Yup, its a shame nobody else here posts "real" opinions.

okay, i will do it. it will be street fighter 3 characters and our classic characters as well. it will be up very soon, thankyou for calling me out.

Alright, if your fan fic is so good, lets see how it stacks up to other fan fics, like Sano's, or Bowling Pin's, or mine even.

Oh yeah, and if you're so good and UDON is so bad, then why are you where you're at, and why are they where they're at?

[MangaManX]

^Well done, TAS. Well said.

[jimmy1200]

who actually read that?

wow you took all that time to pick apart my post for absolutely nothing, and im not a kid,(21,hmph :xeye: ) far from it. just like some nerds to call someone a kid because i have an opinion about something you seem to drool over without any honest criticism.

im were im at because i dont want to write stories for a living, its a hobby and a skill that i have, ever heard of those two words. if i got lucky, then cool. obviously there are more ahead of me, but please dont act like it takes a genius to write a good street fighter story. or maybe it does and i think everyone is as smart as i am :xeye:

yes there werent any official bios for most of the third strike characters, but that doesnt mean you cant make a good story about them. it sorta makes it even better, because you dont have to worry about street fighter freaks getting all mad at you because you didnt stick to the original story.

im not going to pick apart your whole post of wtf, but let me state a few things.

1)the five charcters i mentiond are what i like to call EXAMPLES. there are a ton of characters, i just randomly choose those while typing. wait a go sherlock

2)well of course theyre based off of pre existing characters to a certain extent. i mean street fighter already touched the alot of different arts. although there are alot of what i like to call sub-arts of main systems. there isnt to much to do, unless you go into pure magic or weapons. this still doesnt mean they cant make another big ass russian wrestler like zangief, but make him with some new moves, quicker, smarter,and whatever else they want to add, like not being a *** :tdown: . you can still have fun creating characters from pre-existing characters.

3)wow. i dont want the comic to be 20 pages of fighting and no story. when i say make it about fighting, i mean make the story about fighting. the struggle of being a warrior and becoming stronger, techniques, the pain of punching blocks all day, whatever. this is obviously not the case. a majority of street fighter has been cammy, bison bullcrap and this ken, girlfriend, now marriage bullcrap. who the f cares. i want to have a month were its just ryu training sakura, or anything that has to deal with developing their fighting ability, mentally, physically, and emotionally. they could take this so far. yes there could be the ken marriage stuff thrown in there, but the focus so far has been about what i consider sub stories of street fighter. the crap you dont really care about, especially in the way they have choosen to use it. yaaaay, charlie was brainwashed, did twenty super moves and is now dead, what a story. :lame:

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yes i do and although not a play, it still keeps its hold on street fighter, but mainly i was just referring to the ken i love you eliza bullcrap. i just wanna see ken kick some ass and travel and develop a story that way. not the usual ken loves eliza, and has to give up his rich blond guy pimp ways. blah blah, been there done that, got fifty t shirts, can we give ken some more depth please :rolleyes:

5)def jam wrestling, please.

anyways i basically replied to most of your garbage but not all of it, because that would be about as useful as arguing with a retard.

im working on it now and although most of you dont like me now, im sure you cant wait to read my story and hate it or love it and stfu and praise me. muaaaaah

plus, calm down yourselves. dont take things so literally :lame:

[TAS]

who actually read that?

The guy that posted above you genius.

yes there werent any official bios for most of the third strike characters, but that doesnt mean you cant make a good story about them. it sorta makes it even better, because you dont have to worry about street fighter freaks getting all mad at you because you didnt stick to the original story.

It dosnt matter if you have more freedom with the characters, those characters just arent intresting. The other SF chars are intresting because of all the established facts they have about them.

when i say make it about fighting, i mean make the story about fighting. the struggle of being a warrior and becoming stronger

Wow, so you want something exactly like the SFA anime (which everyone loved) you're a genius and so original.

5)def jam wrestling, please.


Def Jam Fight 4 NY is a fighting game moron, an actual street fighting game, but given the fact that you actually thought a fighting game was a wrestling games shows how fucking stupid you are.

Wrestling? Please thats one of the five (main) fighitng styles the FIGHTING game has to offer.

[Apathy-Inc]

I'm willing to bet he can't write his way out of a wet paper bag.
It's even better that he's building himself up to be some kind of Alan Moore.
I <3 the internet <3
Also: He must really like DBZ/GT and Yu Yu Hakisho, 85% of their story is them "training and fighting and why do I fight monologue in their heads while they stand there and do nothing"

[Artayes]

It dosnt matter if you have more freedom with the characters, those characters just arent intresting. The other SF chars are intresting because of all the established facts they have about them.



Def Jam Fight 4 NY is a fighting game moron, an actual street fighting game, but given the fact that you actually thought a fighting game was a wrestling games shows how fucking stupid you are.


Well,Tas.I completely disagree about the third strike characters not being interesting.For someone who is a live and breath street fighter fan,you sure do hate alot of it.Third strike(all of sf 3 in general) was the greatest fighting game to ever exist,and the characters are just badass. No,capcom went ahead and opted for more of a pure,strategic fighting game instead of making it all about the story.I ,for one,find Oro,Q,Necro with effie,Twelve,Urien,Ibuki and Gill,etc. all very interesting designs and characters.Just because they are not the norm, people want to hate on them.Well,I like uniqueness and the third strikers are in every way unique.you want something unoriginal,go watch more of the same ole good guy,bad guy shoot em up movies and stories we get EVERYDAY.

People always complain about never being able to get something a bit diiferent or unique,but when we do,people want to bitch about it.Street fighter all around has been full of great and original characters,and third strike is no exception. Dudley OWNS as a boxer, and Hugo and Poison are a neat team. Necro may be a bit of a rip on blanka and Dhalsim,BUT he is otherwise original and IMO needed in third strike.The story might of needed some work,but like I have heard,this is just an opener for STREET FIGHTER 4.

Oh,and the def jam games SUCK. If you find those better than street fighter in terms of fighting,well you are on a COMPLETELY different page than me.

[Cho]

As opinions are being thrown round I'll comment, though its only about a certain comment and not saying anything else on any other subject.

I have to say I find the Street Fighter 3 characters interesting as well. Oro - More chicken than man. Elena, Ibuki, Hugo, Remi and Dudley - the only fighter with Dignity. All these are some of my favorite characters I can think of. Though thats mostly talking from a look/design and how they fight stand point. My guess is Tas - and others - don't find them as interesting as actual characters which isn't that surprising as there isn't much on them. But I am looking forward to when they come into the comic. If for no other reason that I haven't seen any other comic on them aside from a few guest bits in a Hong Kong comic. (Ibuki, Ibuki, Ibuki <-- less then subtle hinting at character I really wanting to see)

Though Street Fighter 3 is also home to my least favorite beat em up character ever - Gill. Whom I loath with all my heart. Well I like one of the lines he says at the beginning of a fight but thats it. I hate him. Hate him! Urien is almost as bad too.

And thats it. I'm not backing anything else said by anyone else or going against any other part.

I can and will easily wait for Street Fighter 3 characters to make there way into the comic but in no way do I think they are less interesting then any of the other street fighters.

[Apathy-Inc]

Oh,and the def jam games SUCK. If you find those better than street fighter in terms of fighting,well you are on a COMPLETELY different page than me.
I'm pretty sure he was just siting the game as an example.
The other guy was pretty insistant that the story be all about fighting and the riggors of fighting, and training... and Def Jam really has no story, other than fighting on the street.

[Sagatryu]

Artayes and Cho you guys should check out this poll over at Action-Figure.com

http://www.action-figure.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=9742

Ryu 84

Akuma 90

Makoto 75

Zangief 75

Cracker Jack 46

Rose 79

Eagle 59

Nanase 50

Adon 76

M Bison 92

Ace 28

Twelve 64

Geki 64

Cody 75

Dhalsim 86

Blair Dame 67

Q 69

Sakura 81

Elena 83

Deejay 77

Juli 73

Area 31

Joe 50

Charlie 78


Yang 75

Chun Li 93

Darun 34

Rolento 74

Dudley 83

Hayate 30

Vega 90

Karin 64

Mike 48

Maki 69

Ken 85

Urien 68

Skullomania 62

Birdie 68

Cammy 86

Alex 76

Sharon 58

Guy 73

Lee 51

Guile 83


Vulcano Rosso 12

Sean 69

Dan 75

Hokuto 52

Fei Long 84

Ibuki 88

Kairi 47


Sagat 91

Retsu 68

Oro 80

Pullum 45

[Artayes]

Hey SagatRyu,I am at action-figure. com everyday. where have you been?
but yeah,I have participated in every single poll so far. and yeah, Apathy-Inc, I am sure Tas was just setting the other game as an example(though I am sure there are much better choices;p) but anyways,I just feel in love with third strike and the character roster.I find the creativity in the characters very interesting. Would love to see what udon has in store for them,BUT much later as I am loving the alpha,post alpha stuff right now. The street fighter 2 tourney can wait a while longer.Give us all the characters and a GOOD amount of pages on them. Keep up the great work,Udon. BTW,picked up the Rose foil yesterday.She was one of my least favorite females,but that cover WOAH. incredible work.

[Apathy-Inc]

Current Top 10
1. Chun Li 93
2. M Bison 92
3. Sagat 91
4. Akuma 90
4. Vega 90
6. Ibuki 88
7. Dhalsim 86
7. Cammy 86
8. Ken 85
9. Ryu 84
9. Fei Long 84
SF3 characters aren't doing so good...
Also, it seems they haven't rated every character yet, as they're now voting on Blanka.

PS: Yes, Artayes, Jo Chen rocks.

[TAS]

Well,Tas.I completely disagree about the third strike characters not being interesting.

The SF3 chars are (or can be) intresting in terms of gameplay and appearence, however in terms of story they arent, because they have no story to make them intresting, thats what I was talking about.

Third strike(all of sf 3 in general) was the greatest fighting game to ever exist,

No,capcom went ahead and opted for more of a pure,strategic fighting game

Im not disagreeing with that.

instead of making it all about the story.

Uhm no.

Capcom had a more worked out complex story for SF3, but then had to trash it when they had to put back in the SF2 chars (Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Chun Li) so it was a trade off.

I ,for one,find Oro,Q,Necro with effie,Twelve,Urien,Ibuki and Gill,etc. all very interesting designs and characters.Just because they are not the norm, people want to hate on them.Well,I like uniqueness and the third strikers are in every way unique.

Okay lets do a little run down of the SF3 cast, with a combination of fact and opinion.

Necro - Has a very nice distinctive design. Based on one of Dhalsim's old concepts, but one of the designers took it a step further by wanting to him to look like a circus freak (an intresting idea)

Oro - A diffrient approach to the quarky old guy master character (who usualy tends to look like Master Roshi from Dragonball in most Japanese or Japanese inspired things) The magicaly sealed arm was a nice touch, however its not something you find out about through playing the game. He also seems like he needs a few extra details added to him as well (little things, nothing that would really change his overall design, just add to it)

Elena - Is kinda what you'd expect, aside from the white hair, but something added around her ankles and wrists (like braclets and/or ribbons that flow everywhere when she moved) could really add a better visual aspect to her, although the way she plays, moves, etc, is going to make up for any flaw she has.

Alex - Was suprisingly based off one of Guile's old designs, and seems as if he could fit perfectly into a Final Fight game. The only thing I would've changed or added to his design would be him keeping the black shirt, along with his bomber jakcet (which can be seen in some Alex artwork along with his alternate outfit in CFAS) plus maybe a design on his red bandana (although that might make him look liek Axel Rose, an insperation of his design)

Hugo & Poison - Great nostalgia. Nothing bad can really be said against their designs as they were designed in the 80's (or 80's inspired) along with the fact that Hugo was obviously inspired by Andre The Giant, and then there's Poison, who is perhaps one of the most attractive looking chars in the SF universe, but intrestingly enough used to be a man (yup one of the SF3 chars actually has an intresting story, but then again she really isnt a SF3 char)

Dudley - Inspired by the 1920's boxer, not much more to his design, but in terms of overall design, moves, personality, a much more favored character over Balrog. Then there's the curiousty question about him, "Is he white or black?" (I actually asked Capcom about that, but all they said was <i>"he's supposed to have dark skin"</i> which didnt really answer my question)

Q - One of the 3 anime/manga inspired chars of the SF3 cast. Is intresting due to the mystery that surrounds his/her character, although thats really a cop out when you want to make an intresting character, or a character people will wonder about. Defenitly one of the oddities of the SF3 cast.

Remy - SF's first KOF character design. Now as most of the SF3 cast are inspired by an outside source Remy was just meant to be the bishonen (pretty male) character of the cast (much like Vega was for the SF2 cast) he was also inspired by (whatever the designer pictured as) trendy Europeans, and male models.

Urien - Not much in terms of design and gameplay given Gill, but backtory and powers are intresting (given the lack of info about them) Something that could have helped seperate him form Gill a little better would have been if he had kept the suit he's wearing from his intro, and instead of it dissolving when he transforms, the suit/clothes would tatter (like the Hulk just without the expanding and loss of the upper clothing) plus have the shirt and coat opening and flowing around.

Twelve - Probaly the worst design of the cast, given that he's a humanoid blob, who's insperation dwells as far as the T1000 from Terminator 2, something way too famous to try and draw insperation from without people thinking its just a bad rip-off, plus the whole super soldier created by a society to hunt down another game character seems like it was done too much in fightng games already, ie Tekken and Mortal Kombat.

Makoto - Based off an Sakura concept, Makoto was a nice addition to the SF3 cast. However her gi should of most likely been another color, like blue (which would of matched her yellow scarf better) and could of had some extra details to it for some extra umph. Then there's the fact her hair should of probaly been longer which would made her seem alot less like Sakura and Shun (SFA anime) and would of helped better define her as a woman/girl since at first people werent able to tell her sex. The most intresting thing about her was the fact that Capcom originaly intended her to be Ryu's long lost sister.

Yun and Yang - The other 2 anime inspired characters. Yun and Yang were inspired by or tributes to Troa and Duo from Gundam Wing. These two were cool characters but a slight change in appearence could of gone a long way for them both and not making them seem like head swaps. For instance Yun and Yang are completely opposite in everything except appearence, but this is something that should be shown, like Yang is the more focused calm one, and appearence wish should look just like he did in SF3 but with sleeves added, and shoes that look more like slippers instead of sneakers (ie something that looks more like Gen's clothes, traditional chinese outfit) where as Yun should look like he did in SF3, sleeveless, but should have long shorts instead of pants. Overall they should look similar but with more diffrinces, plus it might of been cool to see one of them have Gen's mantis style, and the other have Gen's crane style.

Ibuki - The most popular and fan favorite character of the SF3 cast. A great character. The onl problem I had was her coloring look bad, ie the brown didnt look very good, specialy since SF chars tend to be very vivid, so a diffrient color scheme like something in the shade of blue/purple (like Geki from SF1) might of benifited her better.

Sean - Rather go really into it, like the other ones, I just think it would've been better had Sean looked more like this...

http://photobucket.com/albums/v191/TAS_4287/Street%20Fighter/Street%20Fighter%20Neo/?action=view&current=SeanSF4Color.png

Gill - I know that his lack of clothes was to show of SF3's engine better, however I thought he could've looked much cooler, example...

http://www.ninjarage.com/art/jedas-ling.jpg

(the above is what I always picture Gill and Knollin's son would look like, if they had a kid)

The thing is, with SF being 2D they're limited in terms of what they can do with designs, ie the characters cant really be detailed due to all the frames that have to be drawn, but if you look at the designs done by Edayan (who did the art and designs for the RS series and the SFEX series, as well as the SF2 Revial art) he designs these great really visual characters that are detailed enough for 3D games, but not too detailed for 2D games, and with the talent he has I'd wish that he had to design the SF3 cast or at least some characters for it, or one at the very least. The last thing he worked on for Capcom was the designs for Monster Hunter incase anyone was wondering.

Oh,and the def jam games SUCK. If you find those better than street fighter in terms of fighting,well you are on a COMPLETELY different page than me.

The point was F4NY is an actual street fighting game, and that jimmy guy was complaining about something related to actual street fighting, I forget what, so thats why I suggested F4NY I wasnt comapring it to SF in anyway, just saying its an actual street fighting game, and its story is all about fighting on the streets and all that (although it was nice to actually see a fighting game aside from Project Justice that had an actual story mode)

[Artayes]

TAS ,did you do that design of gill yourself?That is very impressive! he looks cool and yet ready to slice someone's head right off. Great job! also,nice info on the third strike characters,and I really agree with on twelve UNTIL I STARTED PLAYING WITH HIM,and he was barrels of fun. I like Ibuki's main color scheme,she looks flashy enough without a vibrant color.Have you seen her blonde hair outfit? too crazy.

I wasn't trying to sound like an ass earlier.I guess too much third strike has made me bias towards the game. You have a lot of cool knowledge and good ideas on street fighter ,though,too bad capcom couldn't use any of your work.

[Sagatryu]

Blanka didn't make to the top 10 but he did score a very good 81

[Mr.Twelve]

You know, I actually agree with jimmy1200.

Look at Ryu Final for a good example.

[TAS]

TAS ,did you do that design of gill yourself?That is very impressive! he looks cool and yet ready to slice someone's head right off. Great job!

That pic was drawn by REY and colored by Ling (one of my all time fav pics of Rey's) The character's name is Jedas and from a comic of Rey's called "Break" and as much as Rey loves SF Jedas was probaly Gill inspired.

I like Ibuki's main color scheme,she looks flashy enough without a vibrant color.Have you seen her blonde hair outfit? too crazy.


Yeah, a bright color might not do her good, but they should of made the brown darker, ie more solid, plus the blue shading on it looked really off.

You know, I actually agree with jimmy1200.

Look at Ryu Final for a good example.

RYU FINAL did have alot of fighting, however there where only like 6 characters in it, and it was like 200 pages, and it did have a story as well, a good one actually.

[Dibble]

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/opinion

:encore: winnar

[RodT]

SF3 characters would be nice but only when the time is right.

[Glitcher]

Man, people really have NO patience. They´re rather have a shitty comic than a nicely-paced, nicely-written one. No wonder the comic market is in the shitter.

You're completely off your trolley, Time_Stop. You're saying that introducing SF3 characters will make the comic 'shitty'. You give fans a bad name.

[TiamatRoar]

There really isn't any room for any SF3 characters right now. The SFAlpha arc only has like, what, 2 or 3 more issues tops before SF2, and a enormous chunk of Alpha characters haven't even been used yet (like the entire chunk of Final Fight characters). Hell, a large majority have been barely used at all (Such as Karin who's only been in a back-up).

[nortlee]

You're completely off your trolley, Time_Stop. You're saying that introducing SF3 characters will make the comic 'shitty'. You give fans a bad name.
No he's saying that it's too early for the SF3 cast I think you'll find.

He's right.

[TAS]

You're completely off your trolley, Time_Stop. You're saying that introducing SF3 characters will make the comic 'shitty'. You give fans a bad name.


No, he's right, its WAY too early to have the SF3 chars, it will just make the comic a cluttered mess, and take the focus away from what they should be focusing on in terms of story and characterrs, and thus would be "shitty"

He was right, you were wrong, live with it.

[EVERDRED]

ok ok here r some character design back stories i know about

Urien: came from the greek statue of the spear bearer, every stance he has shows off his form in perfect contro-posto and even his KO lay down stance is a real sculpture called "The Dying Soldier" or "Defeated Warrior".

Dudley: My new favorite character design based on the greatest heavy weight prize fighter who ever lived, Jack Johnson.

John L. Sullivan --> Jack Johnson --> Character Design for Dudley. John L. Sullivan was a boxer with the curly moustache and was the first heavy weight champion of the world i believe. he shared a jail cell with Jack Johnson and actually taught him some of his boxing techniques. around 1907 Jack johnson became the first black heavy weight champion of the world. he was so great because of the white society that wanted him to fail and fall and they put many challenges and shit in his way but he kept the title for almost a decade. Jack Johnson always dressed snappy and always was better dressed then everyone around him even the white ppl who hated him. they combined the style of jack johnson and the face of John L Sullivan to create Dudley.


there is a hell of alot more thought put in to the character designs of sf3 then alot of other fighters in my opinion.

[TAS]

there is a hell of alot more thought put in to the character designs of sf3 then alot of other fighters in my opinion.


Not really.

For instance you say Dudley is based off Jack Johnson and John L Sullivan, but thats not really something new when it comes to SF as Ryu and Sagat were both based off real life martial artist who had a rivalry with one another, and Ryu and Sagat were created sometime in the late 80s.

Having an entire cast of characters who are inspired or copied from other characters or real life people isnt very creative, unless you take it to a whole new level of design, like the Guilty Gear characters were all inspired by music, and only one of the people in the cast that I know of is actually modeled after an actual singer, while the rest of the cast was inspired by lyrics and music, thats something I find to be extremely creative.

Its true the SF3 cast has better character designs then quite a few other games or game series, like DOA, Virtua Fighter, Tao Fang, Mortal Kombat, etc, etc, however past SF games have provided better designs, and designers. Then there's the Guilty Gear character designs, which are probaly the best fighting game charater designs in the past decade, although Im waiting for the designs that will surpass GGs.

[Apathy-Inc]

Not really.

For instance you say Dudley is based off Jack Johnson and John L Sullivan, but thats not really something new when it comes to SF as Ryu and Sagat were both based off real life martial artist who had a rivalry with one another, and Ryu and Sagat were created sometime in the late 80s.

Having an entire cast of characters who are inspired or copied from other characters or real life people isnt very creative, unless you take it to a whole new level of design, like the Guilty Gear characters were all inspired by music, and only one of the people in the cast that I know of is actually modeled after an actual singer, while the rest of the cast was inspired by lyrics and music, thats something I find to be extremely creative.

Its true the SF3 cast has better character designs then quite a few other games or game series, like DOA, Virtua Fighter, Tao Fang, Mortal Kombat, etc, etc, however past SF games have provided better designs, and designers. Then there's the Guilty Gear character designs, which are probaly the best fighting game charater designs in the past decade, although Im waiting for the designs that will surpass GGs.

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....that is all.

[Sagatryu]

Necro 63

R Mika 81

Garuda 57

Sodom 69

[Sagatryu]

T.hawk 74

[Infinism]

Q: Who knows? (There is speculation that Q = Balrog, but that's probably as feasible as Charlie = Blanka.)


wha....??

[Glitcher]

No, he's right, its WAY too early to have the SF3 chars, it will just make the comic a cluttered mess, and take the focus away from what they should be focusing on in terms of story and characterrs, and thus would be "shitty"

He was right, you were wrong, live with it.

Check again, mate. The way he phrased it suggests that introducing the SF3 characters at any time will make the comic shitty. I agree it would be a little early just yet, but that's not what HE said. Re-read his post.

[nortlee]

Man, people really have NO patience. They´re rather have a shitty comic than a nicely-paced, nicely-written one. No wonder the comic market is in the shitter.
That says pretty clearly to me that Time_Stop wants Udon to keep the pace nice and steady for Street Fighter, he didn't even mention not letting the SF3 characters kick in, he only talked about keeping the pace.

I agree with him entirely on this, the comic finally started to get a really nice story-building pace, it would be a shame to screw it up now by rushing character appearences.

[Glitcher]

he didn't even mention not letting the SF3 character kick in

Heh, touché. Alright, I'll drop the argument. Back on track, even though Chun-Li was introduced in the last SF3 game, I hope Udon will take advantage of her appearance to use her as an intermediary character between both arcs. That, and maybe they can shed some light on Q's character like they did on Decapre. :pleased:

[TAS]

Heh, touché. Alright, I'll drop the argument. Back on track, even though Chun-Li was introduced in the last SF3 game, I hope Udon will take advantage of her appearance to use her as an intermediary character between both arcs. That, and maybe they can shed some light on Q's character like they did on Decapre.

Well Q if you didnt know is one of Interpol's agents or something like that. Its weird Q's identity is known, but the person is nameless. There's also a shot of the back of Q's head in the Eternal Challenge book that shows his hair (meaning he's not a robot given that, rather someone in a suit)

[coco_j]

Talking about Q, even though it's been confirmed that SF2 appearance was just the shitty colour pallete. Udon should have Q watching Ken or Ryu fighting in the harbour.

[TiamatRoar]

Well Q if you didnt know is one of Interpol's agents or something like that. Its weird Q's identity is known, but the person is nameless. There's also a shot of the back of Q's head in the Eternal Challenge book that shows his hair (meaning he's not a robot given that, rather someone in a suit)



Q's a member of Interpol yet the FBI (or was it CIA? I forget right now. Sleepy) is trying to track him? How... odd. Could see some interesting conspiracy storylines springing up from something like that if Street Fighter's official storyline were still actually like, you know, ALIVE right now, though.

[TAS]

Q's a member of Interpol yet the FBI (or was it CIA? I forget right now. Sleepy) is trying to track him? How... odd. Could see some interesting conspiracy storylines springing up from something like that if Street Fighter's official storyline were still actually like, you know, ALIVE right now, though.

I didnt really understand it myslef really, it was something someone on another forum brought to my attention.

Like I think if I remember correctly the person was saying the woman standing next to the projection screen with an odd look on her face is Q or controling Q. I wouldnt be suprised if Q was a robot being secretly controled by someone within an agency for whatever reason, although that wouldnt explain Q having hair.

[KentDog]

It would be cool to see SF2 backgrounds in the comic. I know it's off topic, but coco saying Q should be watching Ryu and Ken in the background of the harbor (Ken stage) gave me the idea. Wouldn't it be cool to see a 3D perspective of Ken or Ryu stage?

[Sano]

If you look carefully at the New York Stage in CFE, you can spot Q watching the fight from atop a building much like his SF3 Ending. LOL!

[CptMunta]

It would be cool to see SF2 backgrounds in the comic. I know it's off topic, but coco saying Q should be watching Ryu and Ken in the background of the harbor (Ken stage) gave me the idea. Wouldn't it be cool to see a 3D perspective of Ken or Ryu stage?

It would be cool to see the Street Fighter 2 backgrounds in the comic. The kinda did the Sagat stage during the Ryu Vs Adon. I'd like to see Ken's stage also.

As for the Street Fighter 3 characters. I hope Udon have a leave a gap in the story before starting the SF3 arch like a "'X' amount of years later..." sort of thing. I think the flow in the games story between Street Fighter 2 and Street Fighter isn't smooth at all. Most of the SF2 cast has disappeared by the 3rd game and there is so much new stuff going on by then.