when is juli going to appear in the comics?

[chimitaru]

I Have Waited For Awhile Udonekp, When Will She Appear? And Why Didn't U Have Juni And Juli Go After Cammy Instead Of That Native Woman And The Other Doll?

[nortlee]

Juli made a very minor appearence in a plane during #2 spying on Chun-Li and Guile... Unless that was Juni...

[Glitcher]

It was Juni in the plane. And yes, I think fans would have been more please to see the duo as the Twin Emperesses in Hong Kong.

[BBCampbell]

Ironically, we've seen every single other Doll, but to my recollection, Juli has yet to make an appearance in the book. (barring group shots of course...)

(Juli is the most worthless Doll though, IMO. Have you tried playing as her in Alpha 3? She sucks!)

[Sano]

Prolly holdong out for T.Hawk's appearance so they can go with the Juli/T.Hawk connection since SF Eternal seems to be going along with that over T.Hawk/Noembulu.

[TiamatRoar]

I like Juli, but... from a standing-out standpoint, she kinda pales in comparison to pretty much EVERY other Doll out there. When all the other Dolls either have specialized weapons or accessories or Juni's ridiculously wide-array of special moves as well as the fact that Juli is actually one of the more sparse storyline Dolls (Noembelu has T. Hawk, Aprile has her brother, the Satsuki Sakura possible connection, Decapre in general, etc), Juli really has nothing compared to the rest of the Dolls besides her rack. It's no wonder that Juli hasn't done anything in the book besides group shots so far.

...okay, typically, racks are exploited for all they're worth but the comic doesn't have enough spare pages for that.

But yea, I suppose there's a chance she'll be the one who gets that T. Hawk relation instead of Noembelu. That would up her appearance amount significantly. ...despite how ridiculous it will look if it ends up being the case.

[TiamatRoar]

It was Juni in the plane. And yes, I think fans would have been more please to see the duo as the Twin Emperesses in Hong Kong.



I'm surprised I haven't seen a bunch of people asking why all these Dolls were 'made-up' for the comic. Most likely the average Street Fighter fan wouldn't even know the other 10 Dolls existed.

...then again, most Street Fighter fans I know don't even know Juli and Juni exist either, come to think about it (they all teetered off around SSF2T)

[Golden Dragon]

...then again, most Street Fighter fans I know don't even know Juli and Juni exist either, come to think about it (they all teetered off around SSF2T)
Yeah... a LOT of people did.

[chunlifan]

well are they chinese

[BBCampbell]

Seriously, I went to my friend's house and popped in SF Aniiversary. He didn't even know who Cammy, Dee Jay, T. Hawk and Fei Long were...

Most people recognize the World Warriors (the original 8) and Shadowlaw, but that's it.

[Dasrik]

(Juli is the most worthless Doll though, IMO. Have you tried playing as her in Alpha 3? She sucks!)Uhh... no. You did not just hate on Juli.

You mixed it up, bro. JUNI is the one who is complete garbage. Charge versions of spiral arrow/cannon spike that aren't even any more safe than Cammy's? If you think her mach slide is any good, then you haven't played enough with Third Strike Yang (they're generally the same move), and her grab, well, it sucks, nuff said.

Juli's lunge kick is better than the spiral arrow by far.

[chimitaru]

SHUT UP, NONE OF THESE DOLLLS ARE WORTHLESS ONLY YOU POSTERS! juni can teleport, how is that worthless?

[Dasrik]

SHUT UP, NONE OF THESE DOLLLS ARE WORTHLESS ONLY YOU POSTERS! juni can teleport, how is that worthless?You know, reading can help you learn, kid.

Juni's teleport can be swept, smacked, supered, or whatever you want. It's not really a teleport, just a fast dash that happens to be invisible.

[TiamatRoar]

You know, reading can help you learn, kid.

Juni's teleport can be swept, smacked, supered, or whatever you want. It's not really a teleport, just a fast dash that happens to be invisible.



Really? I could have sworn that I used it to go through projectiles on several occassions.


Whatever the case of who's better in the games when you play as them, Juni's... odd combination of charge moves and motion moves doesn't mean anything when it comes to a comic book, so her wider array of moves gives her an advantage in terms of vying for show time, there (not that most battles in the American format have the chance to last beyond 3 moves anyways but theretically...)

[Dasrik]

Maybe it has upper body invincibility, but I'm sure it can be swept.

I was just addressing the claim that Juli sucked in A3, really. IMO, Juli is probably better than Cammy... but that's just speaking from my limited experience.

[TiamatRoar]

Ah. Well, I'll leave the talk about how good Juli is in SFA3 to a forum where it's probably more on topic. Alas, poor Juli. You never even had a chance to throw a single punch in the comic yet. In fact, the only time I really remember seeing her was her getting slammed to the ground by Chun-Li's dad, although it didn't seem like it hurt her much.

Hmm... I think I'll be really happy though if Juli and Juni get to successfully pull off their duo death cross dancing or psycho rolling attack for a clean hit at least once though. Death cross dancing will probably take too many panels when the comic's space is on tight budget as it is (but if there is the time and space for it, it'll look damn cool), but Psycho Rolling? Bwahahahaha, okay, it'll probably look absolutely RIDICULOUS but that's why I'd LOVE to see it. And given the shitty damage it does, whoever it hits will probably back off and say "Ow!" before glaring at them in amazement and snapping "What the hell was THAT!?"

And then Grumpy Surly Kei will shake her head and say "That was so stupid!" Because Grumpy Surly Kei makes everything better.

[mohammeda1i]

And then Grumpy Surly Kei will shake her head and say "That was so stupid!" Because Grumpy Surly Kei makes everything better.

:lol: Ism't that just the truth...

Mohammed Ali

[BBCampbell]

Uhh... no. You did not just hate on Juli.

You mixed it up, bro. JUNI is the one who is complete garbage. Charge versions of spiral arrow/cannon spike that aren't even any more safe than Cammy's? If you think her mach slide is any good, then you haven't played enough with Third Strike Yang (they're generally the same move), and her grab, well, it sucks, nuff said.

Juli's lunge kick is better than the spiral arrow by far.

Comparison:

Juni:

+ Mid-air Spiral Arrow. Great for anti-air. Cammy only has this in the vs. games.
- Charge-motion Spiral Arrow & Cannon Spike. Eh, if you can do Guile/Charlie combos, it's no big deal...
+ 360-motion grab ( - Hard as hell to get off).
+/- "Teleport"
+ Bison summon super!!!!
- Level 3 only Spin Drive Smasher

Juli:

- Cannon Strike: Retarded-looking Bruce Lee-wannabe flying kick that will pretty much cost you the round on block and you can't even combo it.
+ DP-motion Cannon Spike
+ Hooligan Combination
+ Biggest rack of all the Dolls
- Why even choose this character when you have Cammy & Juni?

[chimitaru]

I Hope They Dont Tey And Reveal That Juni And Juli Are Dykes In Love. Anyways Junis Movie Is Indeed Teleportation I Just Used It And Manage To Escape From Ryus Fire Ball Or Whatever He Calls That Squiggly Whie Thing That Swims Out Of His Hand.

[Dasrik]

- Cannon Strike: Retarded-looking Bruce Lee-wannabe flying kick that will pretty much cost you the round on block and you can't even combo it.[/b]Sure you can, low strong xx short cannon strike. And if you space it right, it's safe. It's faster than the Spiral Arrow and doesn't suck (trust me, Spiral Arrow sucks in A3. It's not CvS2 where it goes under everything).

- Why even choose this character when you have Cammy & Juni?Because she's better than them?

[Psycho Power J]

Uhh... no. You did not just hate on Juli.

You mixed it up, bro. JUNI is the one who is complete garbage. Charge versions of spiral arrow/cannon spike that aren't even any more safe than Cammy's? If you think her mach slide is any good, then you haven't played enough with Third Strike Yang (they're generally the same move), and her grab, well, it sucks, nuff said.

Juli's lunge kick is better than the spiral arrow by far.You're serious? Out of the 3 dolls in SFA3, Juni is the best out of them. Her Cannon Spike is like as the others, but her Air Spiral Arrow is probably the best and safest. Do it immediately so that it executes just as soon as Juni leaves the ground, it will look almost as if you did the grounded Spiral Arrow. Juni just bounces off and recovers immediately if it gets blocked, allowing you to do it whenever it's convenient for you.
You know, reading can help you learn, kid.

Juni's teleport can be swept, smacked, supered, or whatever you want. It's not really a teleport, just a fast dash that happens to be invisible.

Maybe it has upper body invincibility, but I'm sure it can be swept.
Mach Slide is completely invincible. That includes sweeps and everything else. Juni has vulnerable moments at the start and end, but there's no way you can hit her while she's in the middle of it. I used Juni a lot, so I would know. It's one of Juni's anti-projectile moves, and you can go straight into an Earth Direct or a VC. Earth Direct has the same problem as E.Honda's grab, but it's still good for tick throws and Mach Slide feints.
I was just addressing the claim that Juli sucked in A3, really. IMO, Juli is probably better than Cammy... but that's just speaking from my limited experience.She does suck. Out of the 3 dolls, she has the worst VC. Her best version is X/A-ism. Unless it's one of those characters that are good in those, anyone that sucks in V-ism are lower in SFA3 tiering. Another reason that Juni is better than the other two dolls is that she has the most damaging VC (around 80%), making her a significant threat.
Sure you can, low strong xx short cannon strike. And if you space it right, it's safe. It's faster than the Spiral Arrow and doesn't suck (trust me, Spiral Arrow sucks in A3. It's not CvS2 where it goes under everything).Because she's better than them?As I said above, the grounded Spiral Arrow is not as good as the Air Spiral Arrow outside of combos. The Air Spiral Arrow doesn't require the spacing that the Cannon Strike needs to be safe, which makes it harder to see coming. It's one the things that puts Juni above the other two.
Because she's better than them?Except that Juli isn't better, she's worse.
Juni:

+ Mid-air Spiral Arrow. Great for anti-air. Cammy only has this in the vs. games.
- Charge-motion Spiral Arrow & Cannon Spike. Eh, if you can do Guile/Charlie combos, it's no big deal...
+ 360-motion grab ( - Hard as hell to get off).
+/- "Teleport"
+ Bison summon super!!!!
- Level 3 only Spin Drive SmasherShe also has the Dive Kick. It's great for cross ups and for pressuring since it has no recovery if you manage to hit the very tip of the oppenents foot. Easier to do while someone's getting up.
Hmm... I think I'll be really happy though if Juli and Juni get to successfully pull off their duo death cross dancing or psycho rolling attack for a clean hit at least once though. Death cross dancing will probably take too many panels when the comic's space is on tight budget as it is (but if there is the time and space for it, it'll look damn cool), but Psycho Rolling? Bwahahahaha, okay, it'll probably look absolutely RIDICULOUS but that's why I'd LOVE to see it. And given the shitty damage it does, whoever it hits will probably back off and say "Ow!" before glaring at them in amazement and snapping "What the hell was THAT!?"

And then Grumpy Surly Kei will shake her head and say "That was so stupid!" Because Grumpy Surly Kei makes everything better.That would be awesome. Now it makes we want to see how Psycho Rolling would look like when used.

[The V]

Juni is easily the best of the Dolls in Alpha/Zero3. Juni's extensive moveset gives her the most options both defensively and offensively of the Doll characters. You must play Juni a bit differently due to her being a charge character, but overall Juni can do everything Cammy can do (VC included) plus more in SFZ3. However, Juni's low damage potential, low stamina and bad match ups kept her out of competitive play.

Air Spiral Arrows have a "bounce back" property that make them very safe. Very useful when done just off the ground. Regular Spiral Arrows are mostly for miss move punishment and combos. Psycho Shield gives her a "pushblock" (can be used with air guard) which was useful for avoiding some guard crush VCs. Cannon Spike as anti-air and Mach Slide for evasion and rush down offense. One of the branches of Juni's Hooligan Combo does huge damage. The command grab Earth Direct doesn't have great range but is still useful in the counter hit and throw aspects of the basic ground game. Juni's supers are poor but in a game dominated by VCs supers matter little.

Cammy, especially compared to her CvS2 version was not great in SFZ3. Her normals were not bad but no where as buff as they are in CvS2. Spiral Arrow did not hit low and for the most part did not go under projectiles. Cannon Spike remained a strong anti-air but the rest of her moves had very specific uses and where often ignored.

Juli is basically a watered down version of Cammy and since Cammy was relatively weak in Z3, Juli is even weaker. BTW slose s.HP xx Sniping Arrow combos.

Dramatic Mode Juli and Juni are still a blast to play though.

Looking across -isms here are the move of the Dolls.

-Juni-
Psycho Shield
Earth Direct
Mach Slide
Cannon Strike
Hooligan Combination
Cannon Strike
Cannon Spike
Spiral Arrow (air)
Psycho Streak
Spin Dive Smasher

-Cammy-
Axel Spin Knuckle
Hooligan Combination
Cannon Spike
Spiral Arrow
Cannon Strike
Cannon Counter
Killer Bee Assault
Spin Dive Smasher
Reverse Shaft Breaker

-Juli-
Sniping Arrow
Cannon Spike
Axel Spin Knuckle
Reverse Shaft Breaker
Spin Dive Smasher

Anyway back to the book. I hope at some time Udon explores Juni and Juli's relationship with one another whatever it may be.

[Dasrik]

Aw hell...

*hugs Juli*

[Ouroborus]

dasrik is tight, now if only he'd stop watchin sailor moon. :rofl:

[TiamatRoar]

Comparison:

Juli:

- Cannon Strike: Retarded-looking Bruce Lee-wannabe flying kick that will pretty much cost you the round on block and you can't even combo it.
+ DP-motion Cannon Spike
+ Hooligan Combination
+ Biggest rack of all the Dolls
- Why even choose this character when you have Cammy & Juni?



Actually, Juni is the one with the hooligan combination. And her's is bugged so that her cross scissors throw or whatever the heck it's called does double damage, which is insane. Juli instead has the... spinning turning punch. Um... ew.

I like Juli though. But for playability, she just simply took a back seat as I got more and more experienced with using Juni. Alas, in the comic book, getting back on topic as well as being redundant, there really isn't much that makes Juli stand out above the other Dolls besides the fact that she was a playable character and even then, unlike Juni, she never really had her own solo-style besides the sniping arrow kick.

Well, at least all the Dolls in general got more showtime than most playable characters so eh. And Juli and Juni had duo attacks, which is something no one else had, so I still hope for the chance to see Death Cross Dancing or Psycho Rolling in the comic. :)

[Siegfried]

Juli rules! Also, she got her own gashapon figure (outside of the swimsuit set with them both) so Juli > Juni.

*seriously considering buying a whole lot of Juli and Cammy gashapons and doing some heavy repainting/kitbashing*

[chimitaru]

i think juli is more visually appealing than juni.

[TiamatRoar]

Juli makes a better 'main' character or co-main character than Juni. The latter's too cute and young looking in comparison to the rest of the Dolls, while Juli's serious expression and 'nonextremeness' so to speak make her a better character for being someone that things revolve around (most main characters in general aren't too extreme. Ryu and Guile, for example, are well-balanced, and Jotaro focuses on just punching his foes instead of the crazy stuff everyone else does in JJBA. As does Luffy, albeit with stretchier arms. And Naruto, times 1000 with his kage no jutsu but still generally sheer power instead of gimmicks). So if I had to write a serious story about the Dolls and had to choose one of the twelve to be the one where things revolve the most around, it'd be Juli (...actually, speaking from experience, that was the case).

This would of course assume that Cammy wasn't in the story completely, but alas for Juli, Cammy's there. Still, it was enough for Juli to earn the rights to being the one of the two playable Dolls to have the actually more likely remotely canon ending, as opposed to Juni who got the one where they both die instead. :wow: Oh, and to be chosen for Noembelu's replacement instead of Juni (heh, now that would have looked even MORE ridiculous).

[Psycho Power J]

Actually, Juni is the one with the hooligan combination. And her's is bugged so that her cross scissors throw or whatever the heck it's called does double damage, which is insane. Not bugged. There's some differences between her Hooligan Combination and Cammy's. Juni's starts up slower and arcs higher than Cammy's, making it easier for her to be countered. I assume the higher damage is to compensate for that.
Juli rules! Also, she got her own gashapon figure (outside of the swimsuit set with them both) so Juli > Juni.

*seriously considering buying a whole lot of Juli and Cammy gashapons and doing some heavy repainting/kitbashing*What's a gashapon? I assume it's one of those figures that's uncolored and you do the coloring yourself.

[Siegfried]

No, gashapon are the small figures you get in clear plastic balls in Japanese vending machines. A bunch of small prepainted pieces you put together for a figure around 10 cm tall. A cheap and good way to get lots of different characters on your shelves. Obviously, most of them are girls (there are like a million different sets with Capcom girls, for example). There are also resin kits (or garage kits) that you glue together and paint, but they obviously require talent. Also, unlike the gashapon they're produced in VERY limited numbers and usually cost $100 or more. That's for the unpainted, unbuilt figure. But you can get pretty much every character as a garage kit, I've seen obscure ones like June Lin Milliam, various Samurai Shodown:Warrior's Rage 2 characters, Juni&Juli, Dee Jay, Gen, etc. If you want to pay that much.
Oh, and there's a bunch of nude DoA garage kits. If you want that stuff.

[Siegfried]

The opportunity presented itself, so I ordered a couple of sets of the Capcom girls including Juli. Now I'll have five spare Juli's for kitbashing. I also have a bid on the swimsuit set, so Juni's head will be easy to get. And that Cammy might be modded to Decapre.

[chunlifan]

well i can't realy tell the two.. i never played with them

[Black widow]

im sure you haven't. chun li's bitch.

[chunlifan]

im sure you haven't. chun li's bitch.

hmm that's very suspicious that you came right when......
naw that's too obvious

or is it....

no i checked the posts