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BBCampbell
02-08-2005, 11:21 PM
Judging on the quality of both Street Fighter and Darkstalkers, I have complete faith in Udon's ability to take more money out of my wallet, um, I mean produce an excellent Rival Schools book. Just to make sure a few bases are touched though:

EDIT: I refer to Rival Schools and Project Justice separately. When I say "Rival Schools", I mean the first game, not the whole series.

- Akira is considered a GUY by most of the characters until about the end of the "Rival Schools" game. As much as I like helmetless Akira, please don't show her until maybe issue 4 or 5. Or halfway through Gedo's storyline, whichever comes last. (Though if the book doesn't sell as well as you hoped, feel free to whore out Akira-chan as much as you want.)

- Ran and Nagare are in Rival Schools. The version they were in just wasn't released here. Though the Gorin story should focus on Shoma, Natsu and Roberto. Nagare's appearances should be few if any until Project Justice.

- Hyo shouldn't appear until about issue 9-12. Towards the end of Rival Schools 1.

- Not only should Sakura show up, but Karin and R. Mika as well. Ibuki and Elena would be way too young though, unless you do some serious retconning...

- While I guess it would be near-impossible to faithfully translate Tiffany's fractured Japanese into the book (it didn't make the US game translation), maybe have her use the wrong word completely at times. Although if you want to go that route, and I think it'd be a better choice, Valley Girl lingo would work.

- A snowstorm reference would be LOL-tastic. Though only maybe about 15 readers would get it.

- Finally, I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Hayato. Really explore the space...

H_Hunter
02-09-2005, 12:47 AM
The best thing ever in Rival Schools is the combined attacks between any 2 or 3 characters on some un-lucky person.

I hope they will do a lot of work on that...

Cho
02-09-2005, 02:57 AM
Hmmm

- Remember that the main idea behind it all is friendship and teamwork over coming all. No one achieves anything great seperately, its all about working together. Eventually that is, I have no doubt a fair few of them will try the alone tactic to begin with.

- If you do show Akira without the helmet, just make sure no one around reconises her when she does until the end.

- "This is our school, we must fight to protect it", or something similar to that. Needs that corney line in it somewhere, even better if it came straight faced from someone like Batsu.

- Some back story on how Daigo went missing and/or got his scar would make me a happy chappy because he's just great and needs to be in it.

- Have fun with it. Serious moments here and there but with comedy all the way through as well. Not that I expected anyone doing Rival Schools not to do it without jokes.

- Just do your best with it. I played Rival Schools a hell of a lot more then I did Street Fighter (and because of availability way way way more then Darkstalkers) so I'm pretty much pumped up for this comic.

And thats about it, though seeing Roy dressed up like a cowboy and riding a horse again (its in some art) would be nifty/funny and some other things taken from art I've seen over the years.

thedude.com
02-09-2005, 05:39 AM
- A snowstorm reference would be LOL-tastic. Though only maybe about 15 readers would get it.

- Finally, I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Hayato. Really explore the space...


snowstorm reference ?? wtf ?? what you mean ?? she's responsible for revealling whole lots of RS gangs trivia ...

that's some micro respect towards her ....

Artayes
02-09-2005, 06:16 AM
HHHhhhmmmm... I know sakura and Karin are going to be in it,but if they put R MIKA as well then I will certainly collect these comics.

ShadowBrat
02-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Find a way to work in the "Power up" and "Healings" team attacks as well "Massages, Cheering up, butt slapping, etc..."

Sano
02-09-2005, 12:04 PM
Batsu goes inside of the school during a blizzard.

"Man, it's cold as hell outside. That SNOWSTORM is crazy!" :rofl:

Sano
02-09-2005, 12:12 PM
Gan starts combing his hair and dandruff falls all over Edge. Edge says, "Damn, Gan! You ain't never having no kids with that SNOWSTORM!" :smile:

Random!!
02-09-2005, 02:09 PM
Just out of curiousity why is Snowstorm considered "crazy" as you people say. I just want to know and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just in the dark as to what brought this on. THanks all and have a wonderful day.

BBCampbell
02-09-2005, 02:16 PM
Well...

To her credit, she is responsible for most of the storyline knowledge that most of us RS fans now take for granted. (BTW Udoneko, I'd track her down if you have questions about the storyline. Turn on your rabid, fanatical fan filters though.)

The main beef that most of the net has with her is that she's obsessed with Hyo and has all these delusions of what the game universe is. If anyone disagrees with her, she bans them from her site and whatnot.

Check out rivalschoolsnetwork.com to see what I mean.

Time_Stop
02-09-2005, 02:26 PM
My only request: donīt use the Rival Schools artist from the Summer Special. The narrative made no sense (sometimes i would re-read a sequence and still not understand what was happening), the use of curvilinear perspective wasnīt precise at all and the art itself was pretty average.

Sano
02-09-2005, 02:49 PM
Just out of curiousity why is Snowstorm considered "crazy" as you people say. I just want to know and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just in the dark as to what brought this on. THanks all and have a wonderful day.

Long story short, Snowstorm believes that having sex is wrong and having babies is wrong so it's better to adopt. And she thinks this is the message behind Rival Schools. :wow:

As far as her knowledge, um, no. She thinks that RS CD Dramas are official. Wow, never realized that Rubyheart hung out with Sakura. :confused:

Studio Udon can get their info straight from Capcom of Japan. They don't need to contact Snowstorm. At all.

Random!!
02-09-2005, 03:20 PM
HAHAHAHA. I've been to rivalshcools network, it's where I got a lot of pics. I never knew Snowstorm was a girl. Thought it was a guy. Well the sex thing is a little weird tho. Ahh well I think she's nice enough. I guess I looked at the pictures on the site too much and didn't read the site enough. I never noticed the obsseion with Hyo. Any way let's turn this thread back into what it is titled. I hope they do produce the Rival Schools comic, but I think they should wait a bit. There are a lot of artist at Udon I don't like, and I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying it but eh, where supposed to give our opinions right? Don't get me wrond I'm not saying they should stop drawing and they suck, I'm just not crazy about their particualr drawing style. Not just for Capcom Comics, but their drawings in general. I'v heard a lot of good things about Omar...I think. Does anyone know if he's any good? Oh and just so you all know I'm not talking about the artists who do the back up stories. I enjoy the guest artists.

nortlee
02-09-2005, 03:30 PM
Long story short, Snowstorm believes that having sex is wrong and having babies is wrong so it's better to adopt. And she thinks this is the message behind Rival Schools. :wow:

As far as her knowledge, um, no. She thinks that RS CD Dramas are official. Wow, never realized that Rubyheart hung out with Sakura. :confused:

Studio Udon can get their info straight from Capcom of Japan. They don't need to contact Snowstorm. At all.
Okay so whose this crazy woman and what's she known for?
:confused:

As for my Rival School wishlist I simply wish that as always Udon sticks fairly close to the Canon and that they take their time constructing the story. It might be beneficial to leave it for quite awhile now considering the tightness of artists between DarkStalkers and Street Fighter as it is.

TAS
02-09-2005, 04:19 PM
My #1 wish is that they can continue the story past the Project Justice storyline.

Just out of curiousity why is Snowstorm considered "crazy" as you people say. I just want to know and I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just in the dark as to what brought this on. THanks all and have a wonderful day.

Well see the thing is alot of the people here were members of RSN's forum until Snowstorm banned them, because they didnt share her views of RS.

And aside from that there are 2 other things that I "love" about her.

1) She believes almost every character in the RS cast could beat Ryu, because in RS what makes the chars strong is their sense of justice, or rather thats what she believes, and since Ryu has no sense of justice in the way the RS chars do, that means the RS chars can easily beat him, which is what she believes. Of course that might make sense if RS and SF were two diffrient univereses with diffrient sets of rules, but the truth is they arent, and a chars sense of justice has nothing to do with their power (see #2 for more) and if it did Batsu would be able to be able to shoot a fireball all the way across the screen (like Ryu can) without it fading out (which Batsu's firball does)

2) Kurow mangaes to easily beat several of the most powerful RS chars in PJ, but yet he's evil has no sense of justice, etc, etc, and Snowstorm has never been able to justify how this is possible since it contradicts her "justice believers are the strongest" crap.

Random!!
02-09-2005, 05:27 PM
TAS were you a member of her forum? And your number two reason is the arguement I was hearing about on the a site, that she lost. But know that you guys say that I don't think she's crazy, but hey I guess everyone has to believe in something. All I'm saying is what I'm hearing you all say well you all got a point I don't deny that stuff. But is that really a reason to make fun of her? Well if you feel it is then oh well nothing I can do about that, but I hope Udon does a good job with Rival Schools. How far do you guys think they'll go in the series?

BBCampbell
02-09-2005, 05:35 PM
1) She believes almost every character in the RS cast could beat Ryu, because in RS what makes the chars strong is their sense of justice, or rather thats what she believes, and since Ryu has no sense of justice in the way the RS chars do, that means the RS chars can easily beat him, which is what she believes. Of course that might make sense if RS and SF were two diffrient univereses with diffrient sets of rules, but the truth is they arent, and a chars sense of justice has nothing to do with their power (see #2 for more) and if it did Batsu would be able to be able to shoot a fireball all the way across the screen (like Ryu can) without it fading out (which Batsu's firball does)

2) Kurow mangaes to easily beat several of the most powerful RS chars in PJ, but yet he's evil has no sense of justice, etc, etc, and Snowstorm has never been able to justify how this is possible since it contradicts her "justice believers are the strongest" crap.

First-off: [NITPICKING] Batsu can shoot a fireball across a whole screen. It depends on your definition of a "screen". When the fight starts, I consider that a screen. As the characters get further away from each other, characters' fireballs fade out. Even Shoma can't throw a baseball across an arena (Gorin HS probably has a losing record because of this.).

But then again, if you judge a character's strength by how far they can throw a fireball, then Kyosuke would totally get owned by Ryu in CvS2. Wait a minute...[/NITPICKING GHEY]

Second off: I've said this in another thread a long time ago, but...

If the Power of Justice™ is so damn strong, then Kim Kaphwan should be able to kill anything that moves. Instantly.

TAS
02-09-2005, 07:44 PM
First-off: [NITPICKING] Batsu can shoot a fireball across a whole screen. It depends on your definition of a "screen". When the fight starts, I consider that a screen. As the characters get further away from each other, characters' fireballs fade out. Even Shoma can't throw a baseball across an arena (Gorin HS probably has a losing record because of this.).

But then again, if you judge a character's strength by how far they can throw a fireball, then Kyosuke would totally get owned by Ryu in CvS2. Wait a minute...[/NITPICKING GHEY]

No, cause I believe Hideo's fireball can keep going without fizzling.

And the fireball was just an example, ie Ryu's ki mastery (along with every in SF's) is higher then Batsu's, by an extrodinary level. The Ryu in the RS1 timeline would have already spent one year training with Oro (since RS takes place in 1999 and SF3TS is 1998) I actually dont think anyone in the RS cast could put up a good fight against him, as he could more then likely just Shoryuken them and finish the fight in a single blow.

Again the fireball example was only example of power in terms of ki, but it dosnt take a genius to see that Ryu easily beat Batsu (along with the rest of the RS cast basicly) Hell he could probaly take on Batsu, Kyosuke, and Hinita and win.

Now that be something Id wanna see in an RS issue, ie a SF character shows up (Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, etc) one of the school trios mistakes them for an enemy, and the SFer easily beats them. Its like Panel 3 = "LETS GET EM!" Panel 4 = The trio beaten pilled atop one another, with the SFer looking at them scratching their head saying something like "You guy's have got alot of spirit, but this wasnt needed was it?" ie something very comical.

Sano
02-09-2005, 07:45 PM
TAS were you a member of her forum? And your number two reason is the arguement I was hearing about on the a site, that she lost.

The famous argument she lost? Check my sig. That's when the former SRK poster who past away Mummy-B MIND RAPED HER. May the great Mummy-B rest in peace.

As for her being made fun of, hey, people make fun of me and my fanboyism all the time. Goes with the territory. My favorite was "Sano the little wooden boy who wishes Capcom adopted him!" :rofl: And I actually became good friends with the person who said this later on. If your really bored, check out some legnthy lengthy posts on what a jerk I am by sinklessship over at the Sammy vs. Capcom board at Gamefaqs, and you can almost hear me laughing in my responses! You should be able to laugh at yourself I think. And if like Snowstorm you like, ban TiamatRoar writer of the SF Plot Canon Guide TWICE well, don't expect us to throw a party in your favor. I bear her no ill will to Snowstorm or even Stefan in 'real life' however. :smile:

thedude.com
02-09-2005, 09:30 PM
but it dosnt take a genius to see that Ryu easily beat Batsu (along with the rest of the RS cast basicly) Hell he could probaly take on Batsu, Kyosuke, and Hinita and win.

Now that be something Id wanna see in an RS issue, ie a SF character shows up (Ryu, Ken, Chun Li, etc) one of the school trios mistakes them for an enemy, and the SFer easily beats them. Its like Panel 3 = "LETS GET EM!" Panel 4 = The trio beaten pilled atop one another, with the SFer looking at them scratching their head saying something like "You guy's have got alot of spirit, but this wasnt needed was it?" ie something very comical.

ryu+ken+chunli = TAS , YOU SICK !!! the infamous shotos and a chunner may had them hospitalized and never had to go to school for 1 whole semester !

i believe top-tier hyo could had been defeated by a standard middle-top-tier ryu , BY A PARRY ...
hyo's 1 strong *** though, serious . he got illusion and brainwash shit .

god damn , i just love how ken wipe those RS gang out , single hand...
that would had me laughing non-stop eventhough i hated ken so much , especially 3rd strike ken .
ken would had sarcastic comments to insult those kids ...
"That's the spirit! Fight fiercely every moment of the battle!"
"Maybe my kid should practice sparring with you! "

he wouldn't finish em' off with a stylish shoryuken , but a taunt , the finger smack and says " KAKATIKINA " ...

i would tell the RS gang this , " you should defeat makoto to stand a chance " <--- sf3 2i , ken's sf2 ryu quote spoof .

(edge yamada hates ken in 3rd strike ...)

...eer my respect for daigo kazama , he's conisdered an SFer already . gan = sean ....:D .

Sagatryu
02-10-2005, 12:14 AM
Well here's my dream SF vs. RS Match

3 on two match


team RS vs. The Titans of steel

Hayato Nekketsu, Kyosuke and Batsu vs. Zangief and Hugo

Icege
02-10-2005, 10:22 AM
The famous argument she lost? Check my sig. That's when the former SRK poster who past away Mummy-B MIND RAPED HER. May the great Mummy-B rest in peace.


<3 to whoever can find me that conversation.

thedude.com
02-11-2005, 12:32 AM
<3 to whoever can find me that conversation.

the thread is not deleted or ...edited ...
i suggest someone to safe the messages because she'll delete or edit it anytime .

so , here it is http://p081.ezboard.com/frsnetworkfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=81.topic&start=21&stop=40

sagatryu , your dream match pretty suck .

ryu VS daigo kazama :clap:

hinata VS ibuki/makoto/elena

hyo VS urien

batsu VS sean ( ken , " i told ya'. you guys should defeat ryu to stand a chance." )

hayato's awesome ...

Icege
02-11-2005, 12:52 AM
<3 dude

Gets me almost a littly misty...

thedude.com
02-11-2005, 01:12 AM
yamazato was mummy-B

Sagatryu
02-11-2005, 01:13 AM
Ok maybe the match I post does suck but the fact of the matter is rather or not The RS Gang could hurt Zangief and Hugo.

thedude.com
02-11-2005, 01:32 AM
Ok maybe the match I post does suck but the fact of the matter is rather or not The RS Gang could hurt Zangief and Hugo.

panel 1
WITH THE HEART OF A JUSTICE FIGHTER !! WE WILL PREVAIL !!


panel 2
EIN .....ZWEI........ DREI! ....ENDE !!!
FINAL ATOMIC !!!...UAAAGH ......BUSTA' !!!

K.O !!!

amateurs fighing against SFers is a joke ...

Sagatryu
02-14-2005, 08:40 PM
listen up Rival schools characters to stand a chance against the Sf cast you must first beat the following


RS gang if you can beat all of the follwing then maybe you will stand a chance against the Sfers Maybe.

From: Sean

to: The RS Gang

Ps: Bastu you must beat a Polar Bear while Fighting in -50C to -68C below Zero while wearing nothing but your underwear then after that You must beat a Grizzly bear during a cyclone.

Random!!
02-14-2005, 10:18 PM
Well I gotta tell you that Argument is hella long, and I don't have the time to read that, but hey I was wondering what it was....also ahhh forget it.....

thedude.com
02-15-2005, 05:34 AM
RS GANG ?? DID you just included Hyo imawano ??

he's GODLIKE !! he does illusion , brainwash , mind-reading ....

he owns you , he's a ninja !

he kicked ibuki's ass ...


but he usually get's headache and rest at kyoko's school clinic .

Sagatryu
02-15-2005, 04:21 PM
Ok for the fights it's

Hinata Wakaba vs a pack of wolves

Hayato Nekketsu vs a Tiger

Batsu Ichimonji vs. a polar bear

Daigo Kazama vs. a grizzly bear

Roy Bromwell vs. a lion

Kyosuke Kagami vs. a croc

Hideo Shimazu vs. a elephant

Akira Kazama vs. Gangs with hand guns / submachine guns

Edge vs. Gangs with swords

Shoma Sawamura vs. 2000 skilled martial artists of shadaloo

Ran Hibiki vs. shadaloo soldiers with grenades

Gan Isurugi vs. sliverback Gorilla

1st Bonus match

Batsu Ichimonji and Daigo Kazama vs. a Polar bear , a Grizzly bear and a sliverback Gorilla while fighting in 50C to -68C below Zero wearing nothing but their underwear


2nd Bonus match

Hyo Imawano vs. a elephant, a hippo and a rhinoceros.

Rules of 2nd Bonus Match

Hyo can't not use the following in this match

1 illusions

2 brainwashing

3 mind-reading

4 his sword.

for this match Hyo must only use his barehands and he also must be shirtless.

Bonus match 3

this match will test some of the Rs Characters Reflexes.

Batsu Ichimonji, Hinata Wakaba and vs a project weapon that mimics charlie's Sonic Blade super.

each sonic boom Travels at 1522mph!

the speed of sound / Mach 1

761 miles per hour / 340.29 meter/second

Mach 2 / supersonic

1,522 miles per hour / 680.58 meter/second

Mach 5 / Hypersonic

3,806 miles per hour / 1,701.45 meter/second

the speed of a bullet

671 miles per hour / 300 meters / second

thedude.com
02-16-2005, 05:43 AM
hayato hasn't been defeated in taiyo's kendo club .
hayato is top-tier ...

ok enuff of the challenge shit , hyo imawano want's to kill you already ... and being considered you being evil and mindless .