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Reaper
02-27-2005, 05:40 PM
ok if u r like me and want to know then this is the thread 4 u. We will start with the xbox since it seems to be the most frustrating and less talked about.(plus im doin one now and da shit aint no cake walk :xeye: ) Then we'll move to ps2 on down. List why they r easy. the more info u put down the more helpful u r to newbs like me lol.
Ni8wing
02-27-2005, 05:44 PM
psx controller H series is what I always use. You could get them at gamestop for only 2.99. But make sure it has an H on the back. I call it "H for hack".
Reaper
02-27-2005, 06:04 PM
LMAO good one ill look into it keep em comin fellas
tehownage
02-27-2005, 07:50 PM
I thought A series were best to hack for arcade sticks?
Reaper
02-27-2005, 09:55 PM
yeah the a r highly hackable but does any one have any ideas for the xbox
NaTSuMi
02-28-2005, 11:59 PM
Yea I'm about to do an xbox one too, wanna know which one is the easiest. IS it possible to hack the original big ass controller? Will the triggers have lag (like origianl DC controllers have lag on the triggers).


yeah the a r highly hackable but does any one have any ideas for the xbox
WaQs
03-01-2005, 02:19 AM
For the xbox, use a ps controller with a ps2->xbox convertor, these are available at most on-line retailers, its the easiests solution and you can buy convertors that allow you to use the controller on your PC.
Reaper
03-01-2005, 04:30 AM
natsumi go to modeverything.com it is possible one common ground and tuff soder points this is my next step b4 i order gamsters reflex
Reaper
03-01-2005, 10:04 AM
For the xbox, use a ps controller with a ps2->xbox convertor, these are available at most on-line retailers, its the easiests solution and you can buy convertors that allow you to use the controller on your PC.

I heard there were issue with converters as far as lag and reliability is concerned particularly with 3rd Strike
plz correct me if im wrong
Ni8wing
03-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Ya I heard about that too. So is there any other convertor besides the Magic Box that plays a Playstation controller smoothly on the Xbox? What is the best convertor for third strike?
SoulCaliFreak
03-01-2005, 03:15 PM
I've never had any problems using the Gemeni 2 in 1 adapter on xbox w/first party pcbs. That's been with Soul Calibur 2 and Guilty Gear X2 Reload.

Still, I don't play GG anywhere near a competent level, so I don't have one spec of the timing it takes to do certain things, thus, I wouldn't know if it really lags. For SC2, it never lags for me.

You can get these adapters at Wal Mart for $10.
Ni8wing
03-01-2005, 10:52 PM
I bought 2 ps2 to xbox/gamecube adapters at fry's and they suck. They don't even work and I bought them at 17.99 each. Can someone out there please tell me where I could find a good PS2 to Xbox adapter? Thank you.
Ni8wing
03-01-2005, 11:09 PM
Anyone knows if this is good?

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=53&products_id=1860&
Reaper
03-02-2005, 07:52 AM
check the forum for converters to see if im right i dont think that there is a good converter out there everybody has compatablity issues the best thing is to know which controler works best with the converter u r buying

hope that helps bro
Ni8wing
03-02-2005, 02:06 PM
What if my joystick is made out of an H series PSX controller. Anyone know a good Xbox adapter for that? Thank you.
freeway4885
03-03-2005, 11:18 AM
i have a quick question with about the same subject. I am also looking to build a xbox arcade stick. Ive already used the Reflex hack but i dont wanna spend another 15 bucks on a PCB so are there any Xbox contorllers that arent too tough to hack? I know the initial response would be make a PSX stick and use convertor, but I like having my communicator. Also, I would try the Mad Catz controller but I have heard some people say that they have an issue with inputting mulitiple button presses, is this true?
contak
03-03-2005, 09:30 PM
i have a quick question with about the same subject. I am also looking to build a xbox arcade stick. Ive already used the Reflex hack but i dont wanna spend another 15 bucks on a PCB so are there any Xbox contorllers that arent too tough to hack? I know the initial response would be make a PSX stick and use convertor, but I like having my communicator. Also, I would try the Mad Catz controller but I have heard some people say that they have an issue with inputting mulitiple button presses, is this true?
Check out modeverything.com for the xbox controller hack. I hacked a mad catz controller a while ago and I did have issues with multiple button presses that is until i grounded every button and direction. It worked fine after that. It took me while but that was because it was my first hack.
DanSC
03-03-2005, 09:46 PM
^^ so which one is better in responding, sony pcb with converter or third party xbox pcb?
x_tremer
03-03-2005, 09:52 PM
third party xbox pcb of course.
ArcadeStickMonk
03-03-2005, 09:57 PM
I took the big Xbox pad apart today and had a look at it. I'm following Arm's guide for the most part. I did some test solders to those tiny contact points and they held. I'm holding off on actually doing it until I get some better wire, but I'm confident.
contak
03-03-2005, 10:03 PM
I took the big Xbox pad apart today and had a look at it. I'm following Arm's guide for the most part. I did some test solders to those tiny contact points and they held. I'm holding off on actually doing it until I get some better wire, but I'm confident.
I have also open up the big xbox pad and I am planning on doing the same. What size wire are you going to use?
ArcadeStickMonk
03-03-2005, 10:14 PM
24 solid, if I can get enough colors. Might have to settle for 22.
Reaper
03-03-2005, 10:29 PM
hey arcademonk thnx again for da tips
freeway4885
03-04-2005, 11:36 AM
so any guides to the mad catz xbox controller hack?
Reaper
03-04-2005, 11:57 AM
there is a thread for converters alot of good info there but as i said b4 they all have they're share of problems
IslandBoy
05-04-2005, 05:19 PM
So I currently have the following:

1x PS "A" controller
1x Xbox Reflex controller

I wanted to build my own custom stick and
was wondering if I did the PS controller
what PS>Xbox converter will I need the will have no lag
issues on Live. Also, where is the tutorial to hack
the PS "A" controller?


Is there anyone out there that still uses the Reflex controller pcb? What are some of the issues with that pcb?
THChardcore
05-04-2005, 07:06 PM
xbox- use a liquid video pad and hack it. Really nice copper contacts.
nmbr1krush
05-04-2005, 07:44 PM
What if my joystick is made out of an H series PSX controller. Anyone know a good Xbox adapter for that? Thank you.
I use dragoncube adapter. Works with no lag for h series psx controller.
Carefree
05-04-2005, 08:05 PM
It took me one try to get the spad for xbox to work on my stick, I just followed the same way you would solder a psx I think. I tried the psx about 4 times and couldnt get them to work for some reason, it might of been a wrong version, I dunno. Don't know much about these, but I just gutted the microsoft s-type and it worked fine :shrug:
laurie
05-06-2005, 08:15 AM
Ive just started my first scratchbuild stick and have found that the official xbox stick (the nasty little one) has a very easy to solder to pcb, I have temp stuck a happ stick and buttons to the pcb and been testing the response in fbaxx controller test screen, and it seems fine. I just need to get my sanwa parts and some wood now.