Am I The Only One Disappointed In Tekken 5?

[SlaughterX]

Because I was really expecting a lot more. I haven't really played a Tekken game since 3, and I liked it very much back when it first came out, but I play 5 and realize how dated the ngine feels. It's like going back and playing Street Fighter 2 after playing Alpha. Why hasn't the Tekken engine really evolved. Sure you can do a few new things, but it still seems just as old as ever. Why does this game still seem like a 2.5D fighter, why is sidestepping such a chroe with it's so easy to do in other 3D fighters? Why is it so easy to be ground raped. Why did I spend $100 on this game? God may not be able to answer these questions but I would sure like to ask Namco... Wait I can answer the last, gimmicky collector's edition, works every time, damn... Ohh well, can still get a pretty penny for it on ebay...

[SooMighty]

this may be theory and fact at the same time but...T4 was what evolved from t3/ttt and it was bunk. although Ive only played literally like 4 games of t4, it feels a bit like a mixture of t4/ttt. people think its more like ttt, but its actually more like t4. t5 is a breath of fresh air if youve even played one game of t4 tho.

[Luckychrono777]

Why is it so easy to be ground raped.

cause you suck?

[graffiti_sex]

I hate it when people make these kinds of threads then openly admit "they never really played T4".

You wont appricieate T5 going back to the formula that worked if you didnt play Tekken 4 with the formula that didnt work. At ALL.



And "other games" have 8-way running. Tekken has sidestepping, which you're obviously confused by. Thus. . dont put so much emphasis on running around the ring like a bitch. FIGHT.

Oh. . and you're getting "ground raped" because your ass sucks//

[Saotome Kaneda]

Am I The Only One Disappointed In Tekken 5?

Yes. Close thread.

[Superking]

cause you suck?

Yah what he said.

Yes. Close thread.

And this one also.

[SlaughterX]

I hate it when people make these kinds of threads then openly admit "they never really played T4".

You wont appricieate T5 going back to the formula that worked if you didnt play Tekken 4 with the formula that didnt work. At ALL.



And "other games" have 8-way running. Tekken has sidestepping, which you're obviously confused by. Thus. . dont put so much emphasis on running around the ring like a bitch. FIGHT.

Oh. . and you're getting "ground raped" because your ass sucks//

Ok so you're saying you rather have rehash for the rest of you life, jsut because they fail the first time trying something new doesn't mean they have to go back to the same old formula. Whatever what is the use of talking to fanboys, play you bullshit ass remake, I could really care less.

[The_Dragon]

Tekken 5 is similar to Tekken 3 by design. Tekken 4 unsucessfully attempted a different path, so Tekken 5 is a deliberate step back. I can understand being dissapointed if you were looking for a new experience.

[Rhio2k]

My only dissapointment is that Roger jr and his mom aren't separate characters. Seeing the little guy's arms flailing all over the place out of mama's pouch in a couple of the winposes reminds me of some gross character from Total Recall. "Quade...start the reactor."

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Total Recall was great
Quaid: "Hey Benny..SCREEW YOUUUUUUUUU"

And yeah Tekken 5 is good, quit whining.

[webass]

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yes

[vpt_whatup]

sidestepping is not difficult, lol. it's probably easier and more effective now than it was in previous tekkens.

getting owned on the ground, well that goes both ways. some characters have crappy ground games while others (like bryan) have an extremely cheesy ground game.

personally, i don't think t5 is old. i mean look at characters such as law and paul, who used to be so simple and are now quite complex. the engine might be the same, but the strategy has certainly changed.

[DeAdSpAcE]

fanboys

At least the "fanboys" don't suck and get ground raped.

[blueoakleyz]

Because I was really expecting a lot more. I haven't really played a Tekken game since 3, and I liked it very much back when it first came out, but I play 5 and realize how dated the ngine feels. It's like going back and playing Street Fighter 2 after playing Alpha. Why hasn't the Tekken engine really evolved. Sure you can do a few new things, but it still seems just as old as ever. Why does this game still seem like a 2.5D fighter, why is sidestepping such a chroe with it's so easy to do in other 3D fighters? Why is it so easy to be ground raped. Why did I spend $100 on this game? God may not be able to answer these questions but I would sure like to ask Namco... Wait I can answer the last, gimmicky collector's edition, works every time, damn... Ohh well, can still get a pretty penny for it on ebay...

Yes, yes you are.
I'd be happy if they just updated the graphics/roster every year.

[10x]

Why did I spend $100 on this game?Because a lot of people play it and the stick that comes with it kicks ass. Once you get more experienced with the game I'm sure you'll like it a lot more, just give it some time.

[graffiti_sex]

Yes, yes you are.
I'd be happy if they just updated the graphics/roster every year.
I fuckin KNOW

KoF never gets this :tdown:

[The Chef]

yes you are the only person who was disappointed.

Anyway why did you spend $100 on something before you try it?
Just spend 50c in the arcade, or try a friend's copy. Unless of course you have no arcades or tekken friends near you..

[graffiti_sex]

AHA! Too late for that!

and he's already opened the package!

sorry sir, no refunds

[ZERO Shift]

Yo, Slaughter, I'll buy that stick off you for 20 bones!!! I mean, since the game sucks and all to you, you won't be needing it.:DDD

[wassabbi]

only disappointed thing is that Julia is cool but she has a whack story line in story mode

Save DA for3st !

[Moogleborg]

personally, i don't think t5 is old. i mean look at characters such as law and paul, who used to be so simple and are now quite complex. the engine might be the same, but the strategy has certainly changed.

I agree with ya on that...when I used to play Law on the classic Tekken games, I made him whip ass fast! Now in T5 it seems that the controls are a bit tight...but Tekken 5 still rocks! :tup:

[WasFemto]

Slaughter do you post at 1up? Another guy with the same screen name posted the same thing about Tekken5. It's on ok fighter. Both my friends who are casual fighting game fans like playing it and it's a cool fighter for shits and giggles. I would say keep the stick since it's really nice playing other fighters on especially VF4. Started playing this with the T5 stick and I'm now hooked on this game...again.

Oh and I don't like posting for other people but tuelpo mentioned he didn't care for T5 either since it still plays like Tekken. I thought T5 was an improvement over the other ones tho'.

Forgot again(just finished a test and am bored as fuck...) my little bro' thought this game sucked a fatone when he saw me do a 10-hit combo with out knowing what I did other than press 1+4 together and going from there( I was Asuka), and then there was the voice acting and character intros before a fight(Ling specifically among other) that turned him off as well. He likes a few fighters but would rather play Halo 2 more than anything...

[Duck Strong]

Aren't you the same dumb twat I made fun of for giving 2 shits about A3 world tour mode last year?

If you are, why haven't you killed yourself yet?

[Kouga]

Go back to whacking off to DoA SlaughterX you moron...

[SlaughterX]

Go back to whacking off to DoA SlaughterX you moron...

Why do that when you mother gives such good head for such a low low price?

[wassabbi]

lol mother jokes thats low man

[bender mark2]

Originality is overated, why change what isn't broke. T5 is like a T3+ but who cares, its fun and not broken

If capcom released a new SF3 which was the same game with some tweaks and new characters no one would complain, shame they didn't do that instead of jam shit

[DeAdSpAcE]

lol mother jokes thats low man

No that's dumb.

[ThePurpleBunny]

And "other games" have 8-way running. Tekken has sidestepping, which you're obviously confused by. Thus. . dont put so much emphasis on running around the ring like a bitch. FIGHT.


Tekken 5 has 8-way "running", though it's not much running as it is to get around when you have time. Just double tap up or down. Plus unless the other games have horizontal attacks or ranged grabs to stop it to make 8-way running not that big a deal.

And if you're getting ground raped, you obviously haven't learned how to roll on the ground to get out of the way...

...or you obviously really like it.

[OhNoos]

Yo' Mamas got a peg leg with a kickstand

discuss.

[Shade]

Why do that when you mother gives such good head for such a low low price?


Oooh! I bet he's just about to die off that one. Anyway, you're obviously noobified by DOA.

Big titties and multi-tiered levels dont make DOA a good game btw.

[ShinGodfist]

T5 is great...an excellent mix of the Tekken 3,4 and tag systems with added features....It keeps some of its originallity and blends it well with orginallity. My one complaint is that i didn't see Sega's Virtua Fighter get any credit for their major influence on this game..

[WasFemto]

T5 is great...an excellent mix of the Tekken 3,4 and tag systems with added features....It keeps some of its originallity and blends it well with orginallity. My one complaint is that i didn't see Sega's Virtua Fighter get any credit for their major influence on this game..

I don't know if it was arcade or console(probably arcade) but Sega.net is credited in the end creits of T5.

[El Maniatico]

Yes, you are the only one thats dissapointed. Please get help.

[PokApoCaLyPsE]

Yo' Mamas got a peg leg with a kickstand

discuss.Yo Mamas got a glass eye with a fish in it

Pharcyde is tha shit :clap:

[CoolWater]

.............No!

[Jeeebus!]

summmmertime, and the livins easy, bradleys on the microphone with ras mg, all the people in the dance will agree that we're, well qualified to represent the LBC, me, me and louie, we gonna run to the party, and dance to the rythm

[Saotome Kaneda]

Tekken 5 has 8-way "running", though it's not much running as it is to get around when you have time. Just double tap up or down. Plus unless the other games have horizontal attacks or ranged grabs to stop it to make 8-way running not that big a deal.

And if you're getting ground raped, you obviously haven't learned how to roll on the ground to get out of the way...

...or you obviously really like it.
Dawg, that's Sidewalking(SW). You can only go left or right. VF and SC give you full range of motion. VF(A.ll R.ange M.ovement =ARM) right after the initial SSL/R, and SC(8.Eight W.ay R.un = 8WR) either after the first free SS, or doubletapping in any direction.

And you can still run away like a bitch in Tekken, Hayashida Step anyone? Backdash Cancel(both versions)? Snake Dash? C'mon now...

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Tekken 5 is indeed a great game, but one problem. If they were going to use Sega's customization feature, they should have at least done a better job then Sega did since T5 did come put much later. But other then that, the game is total greatness and yeah, you are the only one dissapointed.

[Rhio2k]

Wait...I DO have a legit gripe: the theater mode doesn't allow you to view the mid-boss pre/post-fight and final boss pre-fight cinemas.

[SynikaL]

I'm very dissappointed also.


Until very recently I had a passionate hatred for Tekken. Silly juggle combos, boring character designs among a few other things always kept me away from the series. I made an attempt to get into to Tekken with 4 - just to see what all the fuss was about. I rented it one night and hated it (yeah, I know it's supposed to be the "bastard child" of the series), so I played VF4. This was back in 2002.

Fast foward to Fall 2004 and for some odd reason buying T4 in a Best Buy at the reduced price of 20$ seemed like an attractive option to me. T5 looked promising and alot of hype was surrounding the game, so I figured if I wanted to be in the loop with the next big "thing" out there I might as well get somewhat aquainted with the series. After sitting down with the game, setting aside my preconcieved notions and actually giving it a serious chance, I realized I liked it alot.

Sure the game had it's problems. Walls were glitchy, Jin was gay etc. (even though he was my main. He had the only design I could stomach [2p out fit]). But it looked like promising groundwork for T5. The walls had many tactical (though unbalanced) possibilities and it made for interesting confrontations. It was different.

Itagaki made some good points. The wall system could have worked if Namco would have just taken the time to make it work. Instead they took the easy way out and reverted to their old formula.

Tekken 5's gameplay feels severly dated to me, and is about as vanilla as a fighting game can get IMO. And Jin is still the only character I can even stand to look at. I'm not even going to get into the over-rated graphics engine, which character models only look good in levels with excessive use of bloom effects, sorry as hell sound engine - an absolutley imperative factor in any good fighting game if you ask me -and just it's general lack of anything fresh period. The game seems to be great for the fans that were sorely dissappointed with 4, but what about the ones that actually liked the advancements it tried to make? T5 just epitomizes what I hated about this series all along.

It's just slow, bland and boring.


-Syn
(where the hell's that reciept?)

[white shadow]

My only gripe is the lack of an air game. I mean for such powerful fighters they really, REALLY suck at jumping except for a few but those jumps are special moves with themselves anyways. Still it's obviously a really good game. I just miss freedom of movement that's all.:razzy:

[Random Hero 360]

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

^ :clap: Very wise words.

[nakofan64]

The main thing that didn't work in Jin 4 (Tekken 4) was the movement. It just didn't feel like a Tekken game. Tekken 5 came out and it brought back the Tekken Tag movement which is perfect.

What I love is that Tekken 5 actually feels like Namco put as much work into it as they did for Soul Calibur 2. Jin 4 was a rush job.

Namco listened to their fans on this one and even brought back Tekken Tag Jin in the form of Devil Jin. And it also helps that my character, Marduk, has so much more in his arsenal now that he's dangerous...I love it.

I can only hope for Tekken Tag 2 to hit in a couple of years.

[Master Chibi]

summmmertime, and the livins easy, bradleys on the microphone with ras mg, all the people in the dance will agree that we're, well qualified to represent the LBC, me, me and louie, we gonna run to the party, and dance to the rythm

me and my girl, we got a realtionship, i love her so bad, but she treats me like a shit. locked down, like in a penetentary, she spreads her loving all over and when i come over there's none left for me.

*scratches the turntables*

:D

[Hoonyo]

not a fanboy, not disappointed.

and btw, yes you are the only one.

[SlaughterX]

The main thing that didn't work in Jin 4 (Tekken 4) was the movement. It just didn't feel like a Tekken game. Tekken 5 came out and it brought back the Tekken Tag movement which is perfect.

What I love is that Tekken 5 actually feels like Namco put as much work into it as they did for Soul Calibur 2. Jin 4 was a rush job.

Namco listened to their fans on this one and even brought back Tekken Tag Jin in the form of Devil Jin. And it also helps that my character, Marduk, has so much more in his arsenal now that he's dangerous...I love it.

I can only hope for Tekken Tag 2 to hit in a couple of years.

Well it seems like I should have got Tekken 4 instead. I only played it a few times but I wasn't impressed it either. And I'm not the only one disappointed, though the majority don't seem to be, if rehash sells then that's great for Namco.

[Zakuta]

What if they tried something new again and the game turned out to be even more shit than Tekken4?

I'm pretty sure everyone would have just gave up on the series entirely.

And how comes people are only complaining about 'rehashes' now; whatever happened to all the SF2 games that were released? Hell, even SF3 - and KOF~~ -_-

[graffiti_sex]

Now people seem to feel like individuals by having gripes with Tekken 5. For what I dont know.

[cygnus]

Tekken 5 is a great game. If you don't like it, then you just don't like Tekken period.

Maybe you should play some VF.

:party: :encore: :party: :encore: :party: :encore: :party:

[ThePurpleBunny]

Yes, rehash is popular. Rehash is what people want. Just like Mortal Kombat Deception was a rehash of Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, and look at how many gamers... hated it...

I think I just debunked that theory right there.

[WasFemto]

Tekken 5 is a great game. If you don't like it, then you just don't like Tekken period.

Maybe you should play some VF.

:party: :encore: :party: :encore: :party: :encore: :party:


what this guy said :tup:


Nice post in TZ btw.

[bender mark2]

slaughter
calling t5 a rehash is pretty fucking lame from a doa fanboi like yourself.

At least they advanced the gameplay, unlike doau which is doa2 with more polygons per tit and a online scrub fanbase.

Please kill yourself, thanks

[SlaughterX]

slaughter
calling t5 a rehash is pretty fucking lame from a doa fanboi like yourself.

At least they advanced the gameplay, unlike doau which is doa2 with more polygons per tit and a online scrub fanbase.

Please kill yourself, thanks

LOL at fanboy, I say I don't like Tekken and I'm automatically a DOA fanboy huh? What an idiot.

[bender mark2]

You've made it perfectly clear that you like doa

[nothingxs]

Because I was really expecting a lot more. I haven't really played a Tekken game since 3, and I liked it very much back when it first came out, but I play 5 and realize how dated the ngine feels. It's like going back and playing Street Fighter 2 after playing Alpha. Why hasn't the Tekken engine really evolved. Sure you can do a few new things, but it still seems just as old as ever. Why does this game still seem like a 2.5D fighter, why is sidestepping such a chroe with it's so easy to do in other 3D fighters? Why is it so easy to be ground raped. Why did I spend $100 on this game? God may not be able to answer these questions but I would sure like to ask Namco... Wait I can answer the last, gimmicky collector's edition, works every time, damn... Ohh well, can still get a pretty penny for it on ebay...

Yes, you are. I've never really liked Tekken -- or any 3D fighters for that matter -- and I'm enjoying the hell out of this game. Maybe you should go play something easier on your brain?

I suggest Pokémon.

[bboysanstorm]

slaughter
calling t5 a rehash is pretty fucking lame from a doa fanboi like yourself.

At least they advanced the gameplay, unlike doau which is doa2 with more polygons per tit and a online scrub fanbase.

Please kill yourself, thanks
"please kill yourself," ????
man, you're truly a japanese school girl using that insult.

[bender mark2]

"please kill yourself," ????
man, you're truly a japanese school girl using that insult.

cool, I can make a living selling worn panties then

[SlaughterX]

You've made it perfectly clear that you like doa

Liking DOA doesn't make me a DOA fanboy, you need to learn what a fanboy really is, ohh you already do because you're a Tekken fanboy.

[bboysanstorm]

cool, I can make a living selling worn panties then
hahahah, i already have. ;)

[REALPLAYER]

I know i'm beating a dead horse, but i feel the need to address some of these things specifically.

Because I was really expecting a lot more. I haven't really played a Tekken game since 3......Why hasn't the Tekken engine really evolved.

Right here, this tells me you missed Namco's biggest attempt to change the Tekken system...Tekken 4. T4 introduced walls, uneven terrain, Position change throws, beefed up sidestep/walk, weaker backdash....all of which encouraged a closer ranged fight. Other Tekkens like TTT have a good balance between close ranged fighting and distance fighting (re: backdash). T4 didn't allow for the latter as much. And since T4 SUCKED, it proved that the new system didn't work, hence the older system which did work was reintroduced. If it ain't broke, don't fix it like what was already said.

why is sidestepping such a chroe with it's so easy to do in other 3D fighters?

Because sidestep (or rather, sidewalk) was HELLA beefed up in T4, and resulted in being one of the games MAJOR flaws. This shit limited the amount of effective moves you could use on your opponent, making the game boring and just plain stupid at times. Maybe one could argue that backdash cancel did the same for TTT, but that game had more variety in technique. T4 was simple, senseless BS.

Why is it so easy to be ground raped.

This sounds like two things here.

1. Certain characters have strong ground games like Nina, and since she is considered #1 or #2 depending on who you ask, lots of players use her. So it may seem like the game allows for powerful wake-ups, when it's really character specific.

2. You simply don't know how to prevent it. Remember, Tekken's ground system is pretty complex. You can techroll left, right, back, roll left, roll right, roll forward, roll back, stand straight up, get-up low kick, get-up mid kick, roll then get-up low/mid kick, spring kick, roll forward/back then flying cross-chop(character specific), face kick, or you can just opt to lay there which is sometimes the best option. Even taking a hit is sometimes the best option to prevent further ground abuse. The bottom line is, because the ground system is so complex, a lot of the time you're opponent has to guess how you're gonna get up, and no one guesses right all the time or even most of the time.

Why did I spend $100 on this game?

Because you obviously like the game.
You just need to keep playing it and you're dissappointment will go away.
Shiiiiit, for $100, I'd force myself to like it. :pleased:

[The Invincible Swordsman]

"Honor the gods.... Love your woman..... Play Tekken 5"


This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying in his best Achilles voice:

HECTOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR!!!!

[Golden Dragon]

Ok so you're saying you rather have rehash for the rest of you life, jsut because they fail the first time trying something new doesn't mean they have to go back to the same old formula. Whatever what is the use of talking to fanboys, play you bullshit ass remake, I could really care less.
^A Capcom 2D fighter fan complaining about rehashes. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk! Buncha' biased muthafuckas.

[Impact Hound]

I actually unlocked everything in Tekken 4.

Big mistake, considering what it did to my game. Imagine switching from hot poon to fat chicks, and then being floppy in the drawers as a result. Ugh, that sums it up pretty well.

[jah]

Also dissapointed, like SC2 to much.

[tsubame]

SC2 is better, but Tekken 5 isn't horrible by any stretch. My biggest disappointment is that the 3rd costumes take too long to get, and I'm even trying to avoid Eddie (liked Christie better)

I think SC2 is a lot easier to get into, and has more strategy at a higher level. Tekken and especially VF are harder to get started with, which is VF's flaw- I think it requires too much technical skill that doesn't add a whole lot of depth to the game that isn't already there. Don't get me wrong, VF is a great game, but it's not perfect. I'd still rate it above Tekken though, and EVO is in my top-five all-time faves.