To throw or not to throw...that is the question?

[QuicK ClicK]

what up! i'm from the old school arcade/SNES days and have noticed that on Live people throw without hesitation(Hyper Street Fighter). is it not considered cheap anymore?

where i'm from the only really legal throws were dizzy throws, air throws, and Zangief's piledriver. don't get me wrong, if someone throws me cheaply in a match then that opens the flood gates, i'll throw that guy any and ever opportunity i get afterwards. that's not my prefered method of play but i'll adapt to the other player if that's what they choose to do.

so the question is, do you guys think repeated throwing is a cheap way to victory?

Quick

[Rico!]

your opponent's an idiot if he keeps getting caught by them.

[Havoc]

Please close this thread.

[nicktwist]

Im old school myself, yah back in the day where i was from throwing was considered cheap and I still consider it cheap...but once i got this game and went on live, theres lots of opponents who love to just throw every chance they get, guess when people care about their stats so much as some people on live do, they just do whatever it takes to win...to me its more fun to play the game without the throws all together....but if someone wants to start the cheap throws...i just do it right back to em :karate:

[QuicK ClicK]

why should we close this thread Havo911? did i offend you or something? i'm just trying to see what people think about throwing nowadays.

[buttasuperb]

Throwing has nothing to do with stats, it's part of the game.

[lith]

Throws are a very acceptable part of the game. If you are getting thrown a lot it's because you're doing something wrong. And I can assure the idea that "throws are cheap" died a looooong time ago.

[ARetardedMonkey]

Throwing is a part of gameplay. It's not cheap, it's never been cheap. You and whoever you played obviously agreed upon the rule that "throwing is not permitted" and thus, while playing this way, never fully learned the game. Some games (3rd Strike) for instance, I throw an average of 4-5 times per round (If not more). If my opponent will let me, I'll throw the entire match. Tons of set ups, high/low game, revolves around throwing an opponent. I personally do anything possible to win, it's fun to win, you should try it sometime.

[ImagineVC]

it's only cheap if it's laggy

[ilian]

Throwing is no longer considered cheap by any decent players.
It is simply another tool in the game.

[Mzo]

I can't believe people still cry about being thrown.

=*(

[bardinfalsegod]

tech throw

[SaBrE]

newsflash!!!!!!!

this isnt 1991 anymore kids. throws were considered "cheap" for like a year when no one really understood fighters. that shit died out over a decade ago. throws are part of the game. if throws werent there, it would be way too hard to break someones defense considering low block blocks most moves. you need something to negate a defensive option or else you cet a game like killer instinct where everything gets blocked all the time since theres no fear of a throw to break a defense. throws are very much needed. and you need to get past that old ass mentality, cuz its not a valid excuse these days. you may not like it, but you have to accept it as part of the game and thats how part of the game is played. you got throw techs, use em.

[10,000 Volts]

I feel like I'm stuck in a 7-11 time warp. Help me.

10K

[Havoc]

Yeah, this is proof that Slurpee brain-freezes do cause permanent damage.

[bradlee289]

I think Roundhouse is cheap. Especially low roundhouse.

Come to think of it, jab, strong and fierce are pretty cheap too. As is light and medium.

Don't get me started on fireballs.

[SodomSFA3]

No way this guy posted this you have got to be kidding me. It does feel like being in a time warp reading this crap. :lame:

[Projectjustice]

Throws in 3s is the most balance throwing system Ive ever seen and doesnt do insane amount of damage. Anyways if you're getting thrown alot that means your letting your opponent get to close to you. Slap that bitch!

[Edieman]

Back in the good ol days it was also frowned upon in my local arcades. But as many of these guys are rightly saying, throws are in the game and 3S has really got the best game engine for throws which includes your ability to "tech" (escape) a throw.

The only time I think it could be considered cheap is when someone constantly tick throws you online with a slightly laggy connection. Offline you can see it a mile away and can react fast enough such that your opponent just wouldn't get away with it. Online is a different thing altogether though.

You just gotta deal with it mate. :pleased:

[CigarBoB]

Throwing is cheep!! I never throw and when some "Scrub" throws me I throw what ever im drinking at my cat. One night i played his guy and he had Zangief and all he did was do that damn 360 throw. What a fucking cheater. That night my can Dunhill was covered with 2 sodas and a milk shake.

Throwing is stupid. And if you cant break my DownBack guard with out it you just suck.

[Projectjustice]

Throwing is stupid. And if you cant break my DownBack guard with out it you just suck.

I think you suck since you cant avoid being thrown.

[CigarBoB]

I think you suck since you cant avoid being thrown.

Nope you suck.

BURN!!!

[Fadedsun303]

tech throw

Thats what i was saying. How is it cheap if you can tech out of them?

[Projectjustice]

Nope you suck.

BURN!!!

OWNED! :sad:

[SilentNinja]

Throwing is stupid. And if you cant break my DownBack guard with out it you just suck.
:rofl: Note to all who hate turtlers.

[CigarBoB]

OWNED! :sad:

Add me to your friends list and ill show you how to fight with out throws. YOu can TRY!! to throw me all you want. But your ass will be handed to you.

Ill be on tonight (some time)

GT- CigarBoB

[PimpC]

fuck that............if it's in the game it's legal......i'll throw all damn day if the person let's me

[Projectjustice]

Add me to your friends list and ill show you how to fight with out throws. YOu can TRY!! to throw me all you want. But your ass will be handed to you.

Ill be on tonight (some time)

GT- CigarBoB

I remember when I used to be a scrub and complain about being thrown. Its been 10 years since those days, thanks for the trip down memory lane.

I think you really got a misconception about me, i dont revolve my game around throwing but if there is a window to throw your ass Im going to take it. Im still going to slap you around with combos most of the time. Ill be on tonight, add me to your buddy list.

[Glenshadow]

The only kind of throwing I think most decent players still consider cheap is 'tick-throwing'. Chun li's standing strong->throw, standing strong->throw, standing strong->throw... Is a good example.

Because of the lag that comes with playing over XBL, it's MUCH harder to spring/wakeup to get out of this (and similiar tactices) successfully.

Counter-throwing her doesn't work well, either, becuase a smart chun will stay just out of counter throw distance as you are rising, toss out another standing strong, and her speed will allow her to get in yet another throw before your block-stun wears off and you have a chance to counter.

[PimpC]

The only kind of throwing I think most decent players still consider cheap is 'tick-throwing'. Chun li's standing strong->throw, standing strong->throw, standing strong->throw... Is a good example.

Because of the lag that comes with playing over XBL, it's MUCH harder to spring/wakeup to get out of this (and similiar tactices) successfully.

Counter-throwing her doesn't work well, either, becuase a smart chun will stay just out of counter throw distance as you are rising, toss out another standing strong, and her speed will allow her to get in yet another throw before your block-stun wears off and you have a chance to counter.


I can agree with that to a degree but when it's done to me i don't think it's cheap i just think damn......i'm gonna make this bitch pay since that's all this person can do....i just have an issue with considering anything cheap anymore... i mean i play a lot of MvC2 ad throwing isn;t cheap in there but a lot of shit i do scrubs consider cheap.

[ImagineVC]

if throwing isn't cheap (which i agree) because it IS IN THE GAME.
then my EX groove on CVS2 on XBOX live isn't cheap either.
just give it ten years then you will all eventually evolve and agree with me.
but for now, walk the earth you mindless zombies.

[CigarBoB]

if throwing isn't cheap (which i agree) because it IS IN THE GAME.
then my EX groove on CVS2 on XBOX live isn't cheap either.
just give it ten years then you will all eventually evolve and agree with me.
but for now, walk the earth you mindless zombies.


HaHaHa.. Your such a scrub. Just please go back to the CvS2 forum. EX-Chains are just a crutch so crapy players can do any thing at all. They take no skill and the way you use them it is easy to pull off. Roll into short is just all you need.

CvS2 is a bad game and you are just making it worse with your garbage. Learn the game and play with in the boundries that the game sets. Changing them to fit your "style" only shows a complete lack of skill on your part. Hell Ive seen you play Ive even played you. You really have no game and there is no chance that you will in the future. I was TwoTikkets on CvS2 and you can ask anyone thats been on a while and they will confirm i was good.

[QuicK ClicK]

man... thanks for all the replies. i didn't mean to strike a nerve with anyone, i'm just trying to find out what the etiquette is nowadays for playing. for everyone who's talking about how old the term "cheap" is and that this isn't '91 anymore... were you even born when Street Fighter II had it's hay-day in the arcardes? or were you just not tall enough to reach the arcade stick then?

once again thanks for all the input, for real! for all the young buck who blasted me earlier, i'll be online under the same title as i am here, sitting in a rocking chair with my controller waiting.

[ImagineVC]

challenge me then faggit bob

[Glenshadow]

challenge me then faggit bob

I wish I could be there when CigarBoB mops up the floor with your sorry ass.

Grow up.

And if you play SF2, look for me on XBL (7pm-8pm CST, nightly). I looove tearing up nubs with big mouths.

[CigarBoB]

challenge me then faggit bob

Sure HSF or 3s any time.

CvS2 is just for retards any how.



And when it comes to throwing on any game.

THROW EVERY TIME!! Even if you could go for a combo THROW! The damage is good on HSF and there are so many set up after one.

[ImagineVC]

just as i thought....
all talk...
beat it zombie

[WasFemto]

I think Cigar Bob is joking about the throwing shit and a couple of people here took it serious. :shake:

Calling throws cheap is too fucking good tho' :rofl: :clap:

[PacJam]

There are only a few I would consider cheap "due to lag".


Dahlsim's slide throw....

Ken's hurricane kick into knee bash....

and

chun li's got some tick throws that are pretty difficult to escape also....


when players start relying on any of these lagtastic methods to win.... I question them.........

[Projectjustice]

HaHaHa.. Your such a scrub. Just please go back to the CvS2 forum. EX-Chains are just a crutch so crapy players can do any thing at all. They take no skill and the way you use them it is easy to pull off. Roll into short is just all you need.

CvS2 is a bad game and you are just making it worse with your garbage. Learn the game and play with in the boundries that the game sets. Changing them to fit your "style" only shows a complete lack of skill on your part. Hell Ive seen you play Ive even played you. You really have no game and there is no chance that you will in the future. I was TwoTikkets on CvS2 and you can ask anyone thats been on a while and they will confirm i was good.


No wonder he doesnt like 3s, it doesnt have EX-groove and the system direction doesnt go online. Thanks god Capcom didnt do that with 3s, it would of ruined SFAC online like it did CvS2.

[fatboy]

man... thanks for all the replies. i didn't mean to strike a nerve with anyone, i'm just trying to find out what the etiquette is nowadays for playing. for everyone who's talking about how old the term "cheap" is and that this isn't '91 anymore... were you even born when Street Fighter II had it's hay-day in the arcardes? or were you just not tall enough to reach the arcade stick then?

once again thanks for all the input, for real! for all the young buck who blasted me earlier, i'll be online under the same title as i am here, sitting in a rocking chair with my controller waiting.


Quick Click...

When posting on shoryuken, you have to use small simple sentences.

Many of the idiots here post with out even reading the original post. :lame:
I am from the old school and know what you are asking.

If they actual read your post, they would have understood what you where asking.

Simply put:

Anything goes in SF now. The better players on live will rise to the top.

If you can beat a scrub by throwing, throw to your hearts desire.

If they can't prevent themselves from being thrown then it is their problem.

Most of the better players on line i.e. CigarBOB, real decoy, MrWiz, AfroCole, and etc will not let themselves be put into a position to be thrown,

Hope this helps.

[QuicK ClicK]

thanks fatboy. that's all i was asking man.

[CigarBoB]

I think Cigar Bob is joking about the throwing shit and a couple of people here took it serious. :shake:

Calling throws cheap is too fucking good tho' :rofl: :clap:


BINGO!! and what does Wes get????

Nothing but he is right. I throw ever damn chance i get. If you block a Cr.short when im using ken you will get thrown. If it his i will do another and the xx super your ass.


Eat it.

[Pac S. Rank#12]

Throwing is a part of gameplay. It's not cheap, it's never been cheap. You and whoever you played obviously agreed upon the rule that "throwing is not permitted" and thus, while playing this way, never fully learned the game. Some games (3rd Strike) for instance, I throw an average of 4-5 times per round (If not more). If my opponent will let me, I'll throw the entire match. Tons of set ups, high/low game, revolves around throwing an opponent. I personally do anything possible to win, it's fun to win, you should try it sometime.

It can be pretty cheap in lag.
:clap:

[Zeruel]

Sabre said it best in the earlier part of this thread. If you want a game with no throws, go to Killer Instinct. The game is shit BECAUSE there are no throw moves whatsoever. Just wait all friggin day for the overhead and counter it with a combo. Whoop.

[fatboy]

thanks fatboy. that's all i was asking man.

No worries. Hope to see you on line.
My ganmer tag is BRDAWI.
And me to your friends list.
-fatboy

[ParryAll]

You know, it is a sad day when "throwing is cheap" threads are fake at GameFaqs but real at SRK...

[fatboy]

You know, it is a sad day when "throwing is cheap" threads are fake at GameFaqs but real at SRK...

Dude, ParryAll,... with all do respect, I am not try to falme you... read the orginal post...that is not even what this thread is about.

The guy never said it was cheap.

He said:

"I have not played SF for 10 years. Is throwing still considered cheap?"

It is a simple question, not a statment.

I hate nothing more that poeple who post on a tread with out even knowing what it is about.

It makes so difficult to create real thread with real topics and questions.