Help with dive kick usage (crossups/setups/etc)

[Darkenedaura]

Hey all, I'm having trouble crossing up people with my dive kicks after gettings knock downs (pretty much I only get them randomly :rolleyes: ) please help!

Here are some common situations where I need help:

1. After a neutral throw (in the corner and midscreen)
2. After a forward/back throw (in the corner and midscreen)
3. After a a connected lunge punch (no roll)
4. After a sweep

I generally know that whiffing dive kicks right in front and mixing that in with waist-level or below dive kicks is the way to go, but what are some other things that you can do? How do you integrate command grabs into this? Thanks in advance :karate:

[strakka]

Use roundhouse divekick for crossovers.

Landing a short divekick and going directly into a throw or command grab works too.

[DeAdSpAcE]

1. After a neutral throw (in the corner and midscreen)
2. After a forward/back throw (in the corner and midscreen)
3. After a a connected lunge punch (no roll)
4. After a sweep



Usually you're not supposed to follow up any of those situations with a dive kick. After a neutral throw the guy's already down on the ground in front of you so if you're using genei jin you can activate and go for mix ups. Foward/back throw you can chase them with a rh dive kick but most of the time it's best to take the opportunity to build meter afterwards since the guy is knocked away. This is the same for the lunge punch, but you could follow with a mk/rh dive. Don't follow a sweep with a dive, it's better to chain a sweep into s.rh.

[True_Tech]

i don't even use rh divekick for cross up now, i use forward so how far i go depends on when i start the divekick making it easy to fake cross up if i want

[DooM]

crossup lk divekick owns all, seriously.

[kal el]

:lol:

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:rock:

[True_Tech]

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[strakka]

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:rofl:

[True_Tech]

thats what happens when i was talking to you 2 hours before i made it

[Darkenedaura]

How do you cross up with lk/mk dives? Is there a specific point in your jump that you dive? Or how long do you wait when they fall/quick getup?

[True_Tech]

yea theres a specific point where you dive kick so when you start the divekick determines if you're going for a fake out or not it really messes up those who know what the divekick angle looks like

[DooM]

scenario time:

youre on the left side, when you divekick you push your stick to right and down *3 on the numpad*

now imagine youre jumping over them, which would put you on the right side, shouldnt you press left and down then ;) *1 on the numpad* ;) thats the whole trick, i usually jump over them and do a light divekick, then the mixup is which side is he onblabla