Cheap fighting game bosses

[bensolidsnake]

I hate cheap fighting game bosses. They make me just want to stop playing the goddamned game altogether. Gill in 3rd strike, Bison in most of the other street fighters, shin akuma, ultimate Rugal, and now i was playing KOF 2001 and i could not beat igniz. I used the CPU's energy at 1/3 continue service and i used 4 people and i still could not beat him he was so fucking cheap. What do you guys think about these cheap bosses? Any tips for fighting them?

[Wellman]

Most have a pattern that you can exploit, and SNK bosses are almost always have cheap or retarded AI.Cheap bosses are like any obstacle where there is a will there is a way.

Although I hate MK2 cheap bosses, Kintaro and Shao Kahn it was the only MK game I couldn't beat even on the easiest setting. I although I do think Kintaro>>>>>>>>Goro in four armed badass department. The man was part TIGER!

[4neqs]

Igniz is generally dumb to sliding/low attacks (e.g. Chang's :df: :snka:, Vanessa's attack of the same nature, etc.) so nail him with a few of those. If you can time your hop right you can jump over his antiair...run in and combo before the downward whip followup of the antiair hits you. Oh and yeah, since KOF 2001 uses a ratio system, it's recommended that you use the "2 point characters, 2 strikers" setup, or the "one point character, 3 strikers" set up, so your characters have more life and can deal more damage due to the "high" ratio.

From experience, he's generally dumb towards King's double fireball as well. You can get him to block it as you build meter in the process.
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Oh yeah, first to mention Jinpachi in this thread. Fucking stun palm->fireball/double fireball/drain life moves ajdhsakjdgasadajfj

[Rage02fire]

lol goro was easy in MK4 hella easy.

Just jump kick him or use raiden.

[Chang]

I always had a hard time with Magneto in X-Men: COTA.

[SiLLiEMutAfuKA]

MK2 bosses pissed my fucking ass off when I was little.

[DanSC]

gill is cheap..hes the only boss in fighting games that couldnt beat..seriously how many time i have to beat him to beat the game?

[9999]

Igniz is such a fucker cause all he needs is one opening, then its either whip lashes until you die, or a Brutal God Project. Easy as hell to beat with Takuma, and a few others though.

[MKKID]

I always had a hard time with Magneto in X-Men: COTA.
I feel your pain when he would just have the damn forcefield and shoot at you way up there.

Gil is pretty insane to beat. It can but done but never by the begining player.

ON SVC Shin Akuma/ Evil Mr. Karate. The AI just does guard damage, do one wrong move like jump and bam you are toast. I never beat that game. I only played it cause it was 25 cents and I was bored. And the sticks weren't broken.

[vansaykeo]

I hated when I about to beat Gill and he use his healing super art, that piss me off so much.

[4neqs]

Sean's basketball > Resurrection. :razzy:

[J Blaze]

KOF has the cheapest motherfucking bosses.

[Diek Stiekem]

Igniz & Magneto (X-men Cota) are the cheapest I ever encountered.

Shao Kahn was a sucker for Roundhouse kick (b+HK), just let him walk up to you and when he's in range.. BAM!

Edit: I recall the boss of Tuff E Nuff : Fighting Spirit for the Snes, he was calles Jado or something (sporting some armor), he was a real pain in the ass

[js2756]

Almost all KOF bosses have some sort of stupid uppercut move which can be baited by superjumping over them. Also, they tend to take less damage than normal, so if you can't beat them with your first or second characters, try and run the clock so that they recover less.

Magneto for COTA is hard, but he isn't too hard using a flying Sent, or throwing out a lot of swords with Spiral and chipping him to death.

[bender mark2]

t5 jinpachi is a fucking faggot. Stupid stunning bs

[4neqs]

re:Mags.

This is true. As Psylocke or Sent keep super jumping and do :d: :df: :r: :p: Storm and SilSam and the powers of chip work wonders too, whenever Mags isn't in that damned bubble.

[DaDesiCanadian]

MSH vs SF: Cyber Akuma. Before you figure out his patterns, this guy's a WHORE!!

SVC: Shin Akuma

KOF: Any boss, goddamnit, those guys are broken

MVC2: Abyss.

















































....just kidding about Abyss.

[PozerWolf]

3D fighting game always had such easy final bosses.

But I have to say that the KoF had to be the hardest bosses, no question about that.

[jae hoon]

Jinpachi can be either really easy or really fucking hard, depending on how many times the computer feels like doing that stun shit.

Gill is hard at first but after awhile you start to see what you can hit him with with certain characters. You can take any shoto and basically do almost nothing but sweep and cr foward fireball.

[Skyler]

I hate cheap fighting game bosses. They make me just want to stop playing the goddamned game altogether. Gill in 3rd strike, Bison in most of the other street fighters, shin akuma, ultimate Rugal, and now i was playing KOF 2001 and i could not beat igniz. I used the CPU's energy at 1/3 continue service and i used 4 people and i still could not beat him he was so fucking cheap. What do you guys think about these cheap bosses? Any tips for fighting them?

once if you figure out the bosses pattern, their days are outnumber. AI's will do the same old silly tactics over and over considering they were program to do that, and since they cant think like us, they cant fight like us.

Mortal Kombat did have some tuff bosses like shao khan and kintaro, but baraka can get a easy victory over shao khan in MK2 and kitana owns kintaro for free. i used to thought the hidden character jade and smoke was a pain to fight, but i found their pattern with liu kang by mistake and kick both their ass.

[LuckyCharm]

My most hated boss ever is Shin Akuma from Street Fighter Alpha 3 (world tour). I been trying to beat him for a long time now and no matter how close I get (believe me,I been very close) he always find a freaking way to beat me that cheap MOTHERF***er!!! I also find Gill from Third Strike, Bison from ST II, and Akuma from ST II very difficult.

[Zaelar]

Igniz has the gayest infinite in fighting game history. Block once = guard crush = infinite = perfect. The AI only seems to do it to Iori when I play though.

Shin Akuma usually has the gay if you block grab, if you do something shoryuken or grab you anyway. Cyber Akuma perfects that. Ihadoka does that too, only instead of shoryuken she just grabs.

I-no's near flawless hit comfirm to super off of any hit.

[MegaFool_X]

CVS2: I've played with dark power Shin Akuma, whats the deal with the game suping his life bar up, even for a ratio 4. What the hell.

SF3: Gill is cheap, he can rely on any special he wants. His taps are uber fast and they hit like heavy. And his Angelic DNA special does guard damage like a connected Shin Shoryuken, make the mistake of getting hit with it, its almost a guaruntee KO if your using someone with a vitality like Q's, flipping murder on Akuma or even Ken. I stopped wasting my money, if he has a SA bar, i just leave the machine!

[Chang]

I feel your pain when he would just have the damn forcefield and shoot at you way up there.

Gil is pretty insane to beat. It can but done but never by the begining player.

ON SVC Shin Akuma/ Evil Mr. Karate. The AI just does guard damage, do one wrong move like jump and bam you are toast. I never beat that game. I only played it cause it was 25 cents and I was bored. And the sticks weren't broken.

LOL, me too! SVC, T5, and GGX2 are the only fighting games in my local arcade where the sticks/buttons aren't always broken. I guess nobody plays the SvC. The T5 is too new to be broken. And the GGX2 machine has some problem with the screen. The top half is on the bottom, if that makes sense. I haven't seen crazy things like that since those old TVs from the 70s!

[Sairou Kyoshu]

Ihadoka does that too, only instead of shoryuken she just grabs.

I-no's near flawless hit comfirm to super off of any hit.
Man, I SO agree about Ihadoka (from Evil Zone, or Eretzvaju). It took me 15 tries with Keiya to get past her cheap ass =/

I think I-no's the hardest boss I've fought in a while. While Igniz falls to good rushdown (and sweeps in the corner :3) I-no falls for barely anything. And if you DO manage to hit her, she does Megalomania right after. WTF is that shit?

I can't keep FD going for long enough to withstand the attack, nor can I duck under it (if I remember right, you're supposed to duck under the one that goes high, but that's no good because it STILL homes in on me, even if I DID duck >_<)

[specs]

Magneto from CotA is super-hard w/ Cyclops.
Gill falls to Makoto like nothing else, though. :tup:

[BananaWeed]

Heh, Gill's easy. Knock him down, jump towards him, parry his elbow (2 parries), then combo, then repeat.

Shin Akuma from SFA3 was pretty annoying. SF2 Turbo Bison too. ;)

[Rhio2k]

Cheapest 3d bosses: Tengu from Doa2 and Jinpachi from T5.
Cheapest 2d bosses: Mizuki from Sam Sho 2, every (except for regular Rugal) boss in KOF series...and GILL
Cheapest REGULAR characters: Every character in Art of Fighting 2.

[graffiti_sex]

Jinpachi's RIDICULOUS guard stuns leave you at negative -999999999 frame advantage and his unblockable lows = lolR'us

[Rising Knuckle]

Igniz is easy against Ralf, murder agaisnt anyone else.

[domino-]

gonna have to go with Igniz on this, the fact that he takes half damage and has an infinite super bar is bad enough but did he really need infinites to go with all that?

[fjf314]

I used to have a lot of trouble with Gill. Then I figured out that I can just be really lame and throw Hadoukens at him constantly and Shoryuken his ass when he jumps. It's so fucking scrubby, but it works.

Jinpachi is absolutely horrible. Usually 3D bosses aren't too bad, but this guy massacres me whenever I play. I think it took me six tries to beat him the first time I fought him.

[4neqs]

every (except for regular Rugal) boss in KOF series...


I disagree. Orochi and 2000 Zero where dumber and not as uber as the others methinks.

I would've said 'exclude the bosses in 2003' also, but I remembered Mukai's godawful stone pillars, and Maki Kagura.

[js2756]

Goenitz died terrible, terrible deaths to any character with projectiles in KOF 96, especially Iori.

[bensolidsnake]

Wow I cant believe everyone here agrees with me! ^_^ Last time I posted something everyone was real mean and saying I suck at street fighter and stuff V_V Oh yeah to those of you having problems with shin akuma on world tour, I found that using my super combo shoryuken thing with Akuma over and over with the aid of the thing that makes ur bar increase steadily to work wonders against him.

Oh yeah, Its such bullshit in CVS2. Its so hard to beat shin akuma (but I did ^_^) and he has normal health, and it seems like he has more than you.... But when you unlock him he has almost no health, Like 4 hard kicks and ur dead. it makes him pretty worthless. same as in CFJ.

[mvsc2demon]

Im gonna have to go with Mike Tyson in Punch-Out, bitch is hard, one punch, and your almost dead.

[Saotome Kaneda]

gonna have to go with Igniz on this, the fact that he takes half damage and has an infinite super bar is bad enough but did he really need infinites to go with all that?
He does not have infinite bar. Any time he even touches you with a full whip attack(the ground or AA version) for full hits, he gets one level. All bosses from 2k-2k1 have invisible bars.

Co-fucking-sign, Rhio. Might as well not press any buttons, CPU > *. Especially Yuri with her perfect AA.

[Etcetera]

Eyedol I hated with a passion
Jinpachi is cheap as hell. Every time he is on the brink of death, he goes for the stun, teleports back and does his fireball that takes like over half a bar.

[wassabbi]

Gill - DMG, Stuns, Res

Jinpachi - sometimes too easy but sometimes too much stun move that cancel anyother moves + life drain move

Shin Akuma/Rugal - if u put it on hardest difficulty level they are impossible to beat

also most of Kof bosses were a bitch unless u continue with infinite supers

[SpinalBlood]

Kof95: Rugal = banned

[PimpC]

cyber akuma or whatever from marvel vs sf ....... haven't fought him in a while but when i did he beat the shit out of me....along with shin akuma on like any game that he's on

[ThePurpleBunny]

Onslaught in the first MvsC game got under my skin like crazy. But then you figure out his stuff and he's nothing, except that stuid giant ground laser. Abyss has nothing on him.

[FatalFuryD]

Later KoF you can beat bosses by using guard cancel evasion(roll during guard), combo, build meter, repeat. You can also superjump to bait AA like someone mentioned. Rugal in 94-95, though. Forget it. Same thing with Geese in FF1&3, and Krauser in FF2.

[cannabiscreator]

KOF has the cheapest motherfucking bosses.

I agree the only boss in a fighting game that I still havent beaten is that chesey fuck from KOF 2001! I have no problem with GIl or Kintaro. Just that cheater. Jinpachi is easy too, just dodge that chest blast.

[Weta]

I hate the same guys as the rest of you (Gill, Igniz, Cyber Akuma) but I was playing Fatal Fury 2 the other day (for some reason..) and I found Lawrence Blood was sooooooo cheap.... he has that multi-stab move that deals almost 50% or something stupid... even though he is easily baited into air counter whiff or psycho-crusher miss this one move allows him to come back at random... or maybe I'm just crap at FF2.

[FatalFuryD]

no, FF2 is brutal. But the move you're taking about is his DM/super. It depends on which characters you use but generally all you have to do is just wait for it to end(kim/mai can jump with air special.

[archetype]

I still can't beat the first character on AOF2.

peace

Sav

[RushedDown]

rage of the dragons boss johan
that little magical bitch from matrimelee

i think those are the hardest bosses

[Dark Geese]

I gotta go with Igniz, Young Geese in Neo Wave, 96 Goenitz

[Hunter D]

Eyedol I hated with a passion

Eyedol was the cheapest boss ever. You weren't safe anywhere on the screen. One cmobo from him was GGPO.

[ThePurpleBunny]

I used to be able to stop Eyedol in the very first frames of any attack he did. Charge back with Glacius, and the instant he went into an attack, shoulder ram > ice lance. Owned him every time.

You could also just go full screen distance and duck, and try to get him to jump at you, and counter with either pop-up or jump up kick > pop-up. Works better on the lava bridge stage than his normal one though.

TJ Combo - just keep doing his quick Knee jump special move, charge it back as soon as you press f + qk. Eyedol always blocks it, but he never counters or punishes it, but it takes a long time to do it this way with only chip damage on him.

Orchid - get full screen, and if he jumps at you, do a standing FP, then jump back FK just before he hits the ground, he'll jump back at you, repeat.

[jae hoon]

I agree the only boss in a fighting game that I still havent beaten is that chesey fuck from KOF 2001! I have no problem with GIl or Kintaro. Just that cheater. Jinpachi is easy too, just dodge that chest blast.


Thats only when the computer is playing Jinpachi stupid. Jinpachi has a stun attack that pretty much hits you anywhere on the screen that the computer will use maliciously alot of the time. It also depends on what character you use as well.

Shin Akuma in CvS2 is kind of a bitch just off the fact that he outprioritizes pretty much everything. His patterns are fairly easy to pick up, but its still 1 of his hits equal 4 of yours.

[AznSup3rman]

Jinpachis not that much of a bitch if u keep bulldogging him..but he can get pretty hard if you don't know what your doing with a character when trying to beat game with chars...Mag's in Cota is a bitch...lol i remember the only time i beat him was with iceman throwin rocks at him like crazy

[4neqs]

re: a few replies in this thread.

Cyber-Akuma....hard? :wtf:

[cannabiscreator]

Jinpachi is not hard at all to me. I have no problem beating him. That boss from KOF 2001 is the only fighting game I have never beaten. I can beat all the other cheese bosses but not him. I can beat him in KOF 2000 but 2001 he's just too damm chesey.

[Agmaster]

I haven't played Rugal's CPU in arcade for 2002, but it seems he is broken as all hell. I can just win with him. Period. And since I know my rotation skills need fine tuning, I cannot see how the new Rugal is fair at all. Gill wasn't too hard the first time I played SF3, but the ressurection confused me.

Any MVC (etc) boss can be beaten by a projectile team. I-no is weak to mobility. The boss overdrive has three variations. One you stay far back and duck, the 2nd you edge forward as it goes, and the third (haha I love this) you walk up to her face and double jump. Or you just flick it all with Potemkin.

Fighting Jinpachi is just a race to knock him down first. Since he has so many ground hits AND his stun makes stand up straight from anywhere (air, otg, far away) you just have to concede that round when that happens. Oh, his "double" fireball is actually just a phantom fireball followed by the real one. How to counter it? Stand still for the first, THEN dodge. Suicidal since you don't know until it's too late.

Oh wait....bosses that I find overpowered....does Potemkin count?

[makmak!!!]

All kof bosses except zero and the AI n AOF2 is bullshit! I can't even beat the first character!

Last Blade 2 also have some insane AI, they dash, if you attack they'll repell, if you block they'll throw you!

[Time_Stop]

I still can't beat the first character on AOF2.

peace

Sav

Multiple low kicks. Fast, multi-hitting move. Repeat.

That´s AOF2 in a nutshell.

Jinpachi is not hard at all to me. I have no problem beating him. That boss from KOF 2001 is the only fighting game I have never beaten. I can beat all the other cheese bosses but not him. I can beat him in KOF 2000 but 2001 he's just too damm chesey.

2001 Zero. My vote goes for him too. You´re blocking his massive DM, eating all this chip damage, and he calls Ron to break off your guard! Son of a bitch. He´s harder than the Loveable Ignitz. At least Ignitz will move around, leave his guard open...

[caelum_adustum]

yeah, jinpachi sucks major dick.

[Zulu]

Jinpachi is beyond cheap. He does that stupid stun palm attack that stops EVERYTHING. One of the rare characters that I feel like breaking the controler over.

Igniz and Eyedol do the same thing.

[cannabiscreator]

Zero from KOF 2001 is the cheapest boss and the only one I have not yet beaten. He makes you want to break your tv screen!

[js2756]

For KOF 2001 Zero, you can escape his unblockable striker, then super combo, by using counter-roll (if you have meter).

Last Blade 2 AI can be hard sometimes, but it does still fall for some stupid shit, ie. if you hit them out of the air with a jumping hard slash, they will always get hit by a forward + hard slash, if you do it as soon as you land. Whee, there goes a good 25% of their health.

[FlameAngelZ]

Alot of you mentioned Igniz... and those who havent I believe, never played KoF 2001...

Ok first of all you CANNOT beat Igniz normally...
Second, you CANNOT beat Igniz even when you use the 1/3 of his life down...
You can only beat him by using the 1/3 service AND get super lucky...

Put any of the other bossess you guys mentioned at 1/3rd life and see how easy it is... I dunno, personaly Gill at 1/3 life is fucking easy to kill. Same for the other boessess. Or using unlimited Supers on them, or whatever.

Igniz is the hardest boss ever convieved in a fighting game.

[Dark Geese]

I hear someone siad AOF right? Well AOF2 Young Geese is easy as hell!!!!!! He does his DP move way too much, you can throw and punish with a super once he lands. With Mr. Big I can pretty much get a PERFECGT on Young Geese in AOF2, he is a sucker for Mr. Big's repukkens on wakeup, gets hit by Haoshokoken and any other super because he does not block that much. Want a hard boss? I wonder how many people to this day HAVE NOT BEATEN EITHER 94 RUGAL OR THE ETERNAL CHAMPION (SEGA)???

I know quite a few that still have not done either.

[Dark Geese]

Igniz is pretty insane, 2002 Rugal is a joke, he falls into the pattern of doing his kick combo a lot, you can roll through it and punish with your BC activation combo of choice (Vanessa's 80% anyone??? =)and run him out the door fast!!! Also with O. Chris O. Rugal is a MAJOR sucker for his fireballs, gets hit to death by them. Its funny how the simplest things often beat the hardest bosses. For Igniz I beat him getting him on BT or back turn, then hes at your mercy to punish.Other than that quite frankly it aint a fair fight frame advantage-wise. I think Igniz would rape any Capcom boss, be it Gill or Shin Akuma. Gill=too easy-Parry his stuff. Double hit fireball parry, double hit flying knee attack parry, single hit clothesline parry, hit out of ressurection, if your good parry his randomized Meteor Shower, DONT TRY TO PARRY SERAPHIC WING..(you cant lol)

[Rising Knuckle]

Ralf tackle + Igniz = GGPO Igniz

[Exploit]

Igniz for one reason-MAD INFINITE!!! I played on 2001 and it took me at least 5 tries to just get him down to 30% Not only is his chain move an instant juggle starter to the infinite, but, he can super cancel it into any of his specials or supers-EVEN HIS MAX.

[mukai]

sagat from street fighter 1 nuff said!

[badgerbun]

Death from Time killers :sad:

and i only beat Igniz by time-out before

Mag from CotA is gay ......he keeps doing that 3-line of electric thingy that comes out of his fingers when i am about to beat him.....then i fall and he combo me to death.. :sad:

[Kyoujin]

Shin Akuma from CvS2
God Rugal from CvS2
Ultimate Rugal from KoF2k2
Sissy from Matrimelee
God-damn, that dirty little cunt-scab has a move for everything!

[Agmaster]

Whatever that robot thing is in Virtual On; Ontario Tangram.

[Saotome Kaneda]

I hear someone siad AOF right? Well AOF2 Young Geese is easy as hell!!!!!! He does his DP move way too much, you can throw and punish with a super once he lands. With Mr. Big I can pretty much get a PERFECGT on Young Geese in AOF2, he is a sucker for Mr. Big's repukkens on wakeup, gets hit by Haoshokoken and any other super because he does not block that much. Want a hard boss? I wonder how many people to this day HAVE NOT BEATEN EITHER 94 RUGAL OR THE ETERNAL CHAMPION (SEGA)???

I know quite a few that still have not done either.
<----Has beaten 94 Rugal several dozens of times since getting ReBout, and several hundred since 94

94 Rugal is stupid cheap, but not unbeatable. 95 Rugal's harder than him.

Sissy gets crossed the fuck up for the win.

I still stand by AoF2's NORMAL CHARACTERS, who have perfect AA. Your only shot is to get them to jump at you.

[Ducky]

Shin Akuma/God Rugal from CVS2 are cheap garbage...

That boss in KOF Neowave - I've never seen anyone beat him. The guys who play that game are hardcore KOF players, and they definitely aren't slumps, but that boss is fucking insane. I won't even touch the game after watching the massacre that happens when you fight him.

[Dark Geese]

Yeah I agree 95 Rugal is tougher without a doubt!! h yeah, the Final Boss for Virtual On's name is TANGRAM. Yeah AOF2's regular character do do perfect anti airs all the time,,I will definately give you that.

[mukai]

i never had a hard time with 95 rugal. he's mad stupid and easy, Saisyu was much harder then rugal.you want to talk about a hard mof Geese from Garou? omg! or Amakusa from SAMURAI SPIRITS 1 and here another BITCH!Mizuki i really hate her.