Question about this Hori fighting stick 2 [Archive]

-cypher

03-26-2005, 07:34 PM

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-70-4ra.html

That's the link, I was wondering how the stick is in terms of performance and does it use a square gate? as well as has anyone had any problems with it? I'm just asking because it seems 30 bucks cheaper than the new t5 stick from hori or even the HRAP and was wondering why is it that much cheaper. The only difference I see is that the board looks smaller than the HRAP and t5 stick.

KYJellyDonut

03-26-2005, 07:48 PM

If you're looking for a cheaper stick and you don't care about sanwa parts, then you basically can't go wrong with any hori, they are all great.

If you're looking for something "on the next level", then go for an HRAP or an HRAP SA.

Theres nothing wrong with this stick if you don't care though

-cypher

03-26-2005, 07:56 PM

I'm a bit lost what parts aren't sanwa. The buttons and stick look like the ones on the hrap, but um what do you mean by "on the next level"? Thanks for the info btw.

KYJellyDonut

03-26-2005, 08:08 PM

Nothing in that stick to my knowledge is made by Sanwa (someone correct me if i'm wrong) but that doesn't mean its crap. If you don't attend tournies or play "seriously" then a regular hori such as this one is perfectly fine for you.

People that play a little more seriously tend to buy more expensive sticks. These sticks contain better parts...happ, Sanwa, Seimitsu, etc etc. Sticks on this level would be HRAP Special Additon, MAS sticks, or Self-Built Customs.

Also, don't forget that buying a "cheaper" stick doesn't mean that you can't buy an better one in the future or even mod it yourself later on.

Good Luck :karate:

-cypher

03-26-2005, 08:18 PM

Lol, I try to play seriously but still learning at the moment. Join tournies here and there to occupy the last place everytime lol.

But if it feels the same way as a regular sanwa then it doesn't matter to me, as long as the buttons aren't harder to press or anything and as long as it last for a long time.

Might just get this one over the Hrap, 30 bucks is a lot for me at the moment. Then again I could just wait and get more money later and buy the other ones. Wouldn't mind customs but they seem to cost a lot more, which makes sense but I'm not willing to pay that high yet.

Thanks for all the help.

SiLLiEMutAfuKA

03-26-2005, 09:29 PM

-cypher

03-26-2005, 09:36 PM

True.. um.. whats the diff between the hrap and the special edition ?

fjf314

03-26-2005, 10:05 PM

I would recommend you to wait and save up that $30, you'll regret it. What are you gonna do with this FS2 when you get a HRAP later on? I've used a FS2 before, the stick is smaller than an actualy Sanwa if I remember correctly, and the buttons are very sticky.

Maybe the button issue was just with the particular stick that you were using. I've used a FS2 quite a bit before and I've never had problems with the buttons sticking on that one.

KYJellyDonut

03-26-2005, 10:10 PM

True.. um.. whats the diff between the hrap and the special edition ?

regular hrap has a sanwa jlf stick and hori buttons (green)

Hrap Special Addition is 100% sanwa (red)

Hrap Special Edition is Seimitsu (blue)

-cypher

03-26-2005, 10:15 PM

thanks for all the help and sorry for bothering everyone. where can i purchase a special addition hori?

edit: whats the diff between a sanwa stick and a jlf?

pja

04-09-2005, 08:29 AM

JLF is the model number of the standard Sanwa stick so when someone talks of a JLF stick they mean Sanwa. Have a look at www.himuragames.com for the model numbers. :)

strakka

04-09-2005, 08:51 AM

Quick thing- the buttons on that stick SUCK DONKEY TESTICLES. They're definately not Sanwas, or even the buttons Hori puts into their SC2 stick. I find that they're physically smaller and MUCH less responsive than any other buttons I've ever used.

The only good thing about the buttons is that they don't make a clicking sound.

BigEd80

04-09-2005, 10:11 AM

They didn't discontinue the Real Arcade Pro did they? I was wanting to buy from NCS but they are sold out :( since I'm afraid if I get it from play-asia.com once they have more in stock, it'll take me a couple of weeks to get since I live in the US.

I was thinking about getting the FS2 also since the Real Arcade Pro was out of stock, but if I do that, are they moddable and how difficult is it to mod it?

-cypher

06-12-2005, 05:13 PM

regular hrap has a sanwa jlf stick and hori buttons (green)

Hrap Special Addition is 100% sanwa (red)

Hrap Special Edition is Seimitsu (blue)

Sorry for bringing up this thread but I forgot to ask whats the diff between the sanwa and seimitsu? and is it possible to order any of these from straight from hori? or are there any other online stores that sell them?

Gaijinblaze

06-12-2005, 06:40 PM

Based on what other people have said, Seimitsu's have a longer throw and feel more oriented for shooters and whatnot. Sanwas are allegedly a better choice for fighting games due to the short throw.

I'm pretty sure the Addition and Edition were only available in Japan for preorder directly from Hori in very limited quantities. I've never seen any for sale online anywhere.

What you can do is buy a regular HRAP and put Sanwa buttons in it. Aside from button layout, it should be pretty close to the SA.

-cypher

06-12-2005, 06:42 PM

thanks, guess it doesnt matter since i cant pick either up. thanks again for the info.

Gaijinblaze

06-12-2005, 06:45 PM

I don't know why you want any of these, really. You can get an SC2 Hori locally, and if you're still not satisfied with that, you can put Sanwa parts in it. It requires quite a bit of skill, but I might do it soon so it can't be that tough.

-cypher

06-12-2005, 06:54 PM

Yeah at pacific mall I probably should just do that and buy an adapter. Don't know how to switch parts in. But I'd have to try the stick on its own first before even thinking of buying the parts.

leaveal

06-13-2005, 04:04 AM

Hori SC2 can't fit a Sanwa normally. :( the Sanwa will be tall if you put it in a SC2.

Gaijinblaze

06-13-2005, 10:36 AM

Do you mean the shaft will touch the bottom of the case when mounted? I recall reading a post saying that unlike the Namco stick, a Sanwa could be put in the SC2 with no modifications to the JLF body. You're positive about this?

If you meant the handle will be a little tall, I'm not worried about that.

Edit: Here it is

2) mounting the joystick. The case is tall enough to hold the un modded JLF joysticks. This makes it easy as there's no "too long of a shaft" to deal with, unlike the Namco stick.
That guy has always been a pro with Sanwa stuff. I hope he isn't mistaken because I really want to try this.

-cypher

06-13-2005, 11:50 AM

how are the buttons now though? is it really necessary to switch them to sanwas?

DarkGiygas

06-13-2005, 12:34 PM

Hori SC2 buttons are pretty shitty. They're all loose and you have to hit them pretty hard to make sure the button registers.

I dunno if the FS2 has the same buttons, but if it does then I'd switch them.

-cypher

06-13-2005, 01:56 PM

would it be better if i just invest on a japanese t5 stick or a hrap?

lseelba

06-13-2005, 02:30 PM

Anyone know if this Hori can be modded with Sanwa parts? It is old school:

http://www.skjoldhammer.dk/psx/psx_joystick_arcade_hori.jpg

SiLLiEMutAfuKA

06-13-2005, 02:40 PM

Anyone know if this Hori can be modded with Sanwa parts? It is old school:

http://www.skjoldhammer.dk/psx/psx_joystick_arcade_hori.jpg

Yes, I've seen it done before.

But this takes more work that other Hori's like T4 or SCII stick. I think you have to widen all the holes for the button, and the stick...not so sure. I heard it was hard to do, but could be wrong.

lseelba

06-17-2005, 03:15 AM

I passed on buying it. It looked like it would be too short to fit a good stick into it. I'd have to make an extended base or something. Too much work.

On another note, how about a Fighting Stick 2? Can it be modded easily or is it a bitch too?

leaveal

06-17-2005, 07:43 AM

Do you mean the shaft will touch the bottom of the case when mounted? I recall reading a post saying that unlike the Namco stick, a Sanwa could be put in the SC2 with no modifications to the JLF body. You're positive about this?

If you meant the handle will be a little tall, I'm not worried about that.

Edit: Here it is

That guy has always been a pro with Sanwa stuff. I hope he isn't mistaken because I really want to try this.

i meant the handle. :) it's probably a great fit for the stick bottom, but i hate tall Sanwa handles.

and that old school Hori, iseelba. it's DAMN rare. i've only seen ONE of those, ever.

Rico!

06-17-2005, 08:37 AM

hmm... would putting a sanwa in my SC2 fix my DP and QCFx2 problem? It seems i have to make very slow and deliberate motions just to get them to come out.

cybersnakes

06-18-2005, 04:47 AM

-cypher

06-25-2005, 12:18 PM

Cheaper? Dont Be Serious Dude, You Should Really Check The Shipping Price For Play-asia! It's $25-$35 For Just The Shipping. Don't Think About Buying It If You Short On Cash. With $80 I Can Run To Asian Game Store And Just Buy The Arcade Pro. This Is A Warning Before You Really Get Serious About It.

SHIPPING is a problem if your buying it from Play-Asia, Thats why I dont buy anything from there.
:xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye:

play-asia.com <- :badboy: ( :lame: :tdown: :lame: :tdown: )

yeah, we have tons of asian game stores but I have no clue if they carry the hrap.

not sure if I asked this before, sorry if i have. is there any diff between the hrap and t5 japanese hori? aside from the additional top switches on the upper left side.

lseelba

06-25-2005, 02:20 PM

yeah, we have tons of asian game stores but I have no clue if they carry the hrap.

not sure if I asked this before, sorry if i have. is there any diff between the hrap and t5 japanese hori? aside from the additional top switches on the upper left side.

Yes. The HRAP has Sanwa buttons. The Hori T5 has stock buttons that are not easily replaced. They both have Sanwa sticks.

-cypher

06-25-2005, 02:24 PM

thanks, how are the stocks buttons?

polarity

06-25-2005, 02:50 PM

Cheaper? Dont Be Serious Dude, You Should Really Check The Shipping Price For Play-asia! It's $25-$35 For Just The Shipping. Don't Think About Buying It If You Short On Cash. With $80 I Can Run To Asian Game Store And Just Buy The Arcade Pro. This Is A Warning Before You Really Get Serious About It.

SHIPPING is a problem if your buying it from Play-Asia, Thats why I dont buy anything from there.
:xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye: :xeye:

play-asia.com <- :badboy: ( :lame: :tdown: :lame: :tdown: )

You're a fucking idiot. They're based in Hong Kong, what the hell do you expect? It's not their fault the shipping costs from Hong Kong to the USA are high.

Yes. The HRAP has Sanwa buttons.

No it does not.

lseelba

06-26-2005, 03:19 AM

You're a fucking idiot. They're based in Hong Kong, what the hell do you expect? It's not their fault the shipping costs from Hong Kong to the USA are high.

No it does not.

You're right. The buttons are not Sanwa but are easily replaced by Sanwa. The buttons in the T5 stick are not easily replaced. See here for complete details:

http://namakoteam.com/news.php?id=58

DarkChylde

06-27-2005, 06:23 PM

Not trying to hijack the thread or anything, but my friend has one a FS2 and was wanted to mod it with Sanwa buttons. I know the PCB is soldered onto the switches like the T5 stick, but do the button holes need to be widened? Just trying to size up the work so I'll know what exactly to do. Thanks in advance.