Comic book thread - version...???

[Zephyranthes]

Toth was a legend. I guess I don't have any of his books, but most of my favorite artists are pretty influenced by his work. I hope some publisher starts making his work more widely available.

Hey no problem! I'll definitly be buying every issue. I'm a sucker for gimmicks like this, plus I want to see the first week the comic ships late! A weekly comic that is the equivalent in artwork and story of a monthly comic, someone is going to have a nervous breakdown making this I say! :rofl:


Is it time for us to begin another pool on Which Week Will 52 Ship Late? I'll say... Week 47.

[flyboyz2000k]

If anyone hasn't read the new modern age Seven Soldiers I reccomend picking it up. Seven Soldiers 1 will be coming out this June, I cant wait.

[Sano]

I think DC's pimp hand is too strong, 52 will be on the stands every single week even if they have to swing by an art college, kidnap a bunch of art students and toss them into the back of a truck, take them to he DC office and chain them to drawing boards and get them to start drawing it! DC doesn't mess around...

EDIT: On second thought, put me down for week 33. :rofl:

[AzN_Skater]

Put me down for week 17.

[Kim Sue-il]

52 week 3 was intense. You got John Henry Irons talking smack to his niece and Black Adam being even more of a badass.

[Pained Auron]

i hope i can still find "sam's story" when i go to the shop

[P. Gorath]

wasnt seven soldiers 1 supposed to come out 3 months ago?

they pushed back vol 3 and 4 of the trades...damn morrison

[box]

Picked up Amazing Spider-man, Superman/batman and soulfire

i'll post my thoughts later.

[FreddyL0c0]

the latest issue of Planet hulk was kinda disappointing...fight should have been longer....still nice to see Hulk smash Surfer as if he was nothing.

Son of M finally concluded, and now Pietro's role is significantly more important than just being a mere speedster.

[Adam Warlock]

Put me down for week 52.

[Kim Sue-il]

Did The Walking Dead #28 come out this week, or did it get delayed again?

[DA GAME]

DA GAME read on yahoo.com's news that DC is coming out with a Batwoman series but the thing with Batwoman is that she is a lesbian.When DA GAME gets the link,he'll post it


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_us/batwoman_uncloseted_3

[Rugal 3:16]

I like Black Adam's new development.. a tweener so to speak, but that's what I like, The Violent fascist/pacifist with arm-ripping is something most Teen-agers will dig into and it's fine but it's only the Icing and not the cake.

I think The New Wonder Woman is gonna be


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Also I wish Wally was still The Flash.

[Geese Pants]

A new Wonder Woman................what happened to Diana?
I thought she just up and left after IC.

[Kim Sue-il]

I think Donna Troy is the new Harbinger. Especially with her role in Infinte Crisis and the whole History of the DCU storyline.

[Sano]

Amazing Spider-Man Civil War tie-in was hella shocking this week, Spidey just may be about to reveal his secret identity to the entire world! But they left it as a cliff hanger, find out for real in another 30.

I'm loving Humberto Ramos drawing Wolverine!

Reading the Devil May Cry novel, as in book novel, mostly text that came out this week. Pretty good read but Dante was more bad ass in the manga and even in the games than he is in the book. So far, still in the middle of reading it.

Okay so far in the 'Which week will 52 ship late' pool we have -

AzN_Skater - Week 17
sano - Week 33
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Adam Warlock - Week 52

Closest to the week it ships wins, um... I dunno... the admiration of your SRK peers? Any ideas?

And if it never ships late, no one wins, except for DC - they get to say "We told you so!" Hmm, why don't we just say if no one wins Taichi wins as our stand-in DC rep? I guess...

[box]

Amazing Spider-Man Civil War tie-in was hella shocking this week, Spidey just may be about to reveal his secret identity to the entire world! But they left it as a cliff hanger, find out for real in another 30.

Yeah, the cliffhanger was really good. However I'm probably 90% sure that he won't reveal his identity. He'll probably come up with a speech that he's behind registration and that he will be backing up Iron Man and Ms Marvel and tracking down anyone who doesn't follow.

My question is, does registration mean reveal to public? Or just reveal to the government?

I know SHIELD has the secret identities of practically every masked hero, and the government could just get the identities from SHIELD if they wanted to, and SHIELD would be happy to give it to them.

[Zephyranthes]

I would imagine that registration would just be allowing SHIELD to know everything, and by extension, the U.S. government. But I bet it wouldn't be too hard for enemies to get hardcopies of the files on all the superheroes. Maybe it'd be like registering for a firearm... Not necessarily public knowledge, so to speak, but it wouldn't be impossible to figure out.

I didn't have time to go to the shop this week, so I'll have to pick up the latest issue of Local next week. Did Seven Soldiers vol. 3 TPB not ship this week? I thought it was supposed to come out this week. The first two books have been out for quite a while.

The Humberto Ramos Wolverine art looks really nice, but how is the story? It's been a pretty long time since I feel like I've read a particularly good Logan story... Most of my favorite Wolverine moments have been in X-Men books, anyway.

And the winner of the Which Week of 52 Will Ship Late Pool (we gotta come up with a shorter name. Like 52 Poo.) should win... A complimentary copy of Rob Liefeld's X-Force #1!!!!! Why? Because I was cleaning my closet the other day and I discovered a copy in my archives.

Speaking of pools, what's the tally on the Spider-Pool?

[box]

I would imagine that registration would just be allowing SHIELD to know everything, and by extension, the U.S. government. But I bet it wouldn't be too hard for enemies to get hardcopies of the files on all the superheroes. Maybe it'd be like registering for a firearm... Not necessarily public knowledge, so to speak, but it wouldn't be impossible to figure out.

I'm a little confused about the whole registration thing. Right now... before registration... SHIELD basically knows everything about Spider-man/Peter Parker. And I'm sure they already have oodles of information on all the other heroes. I guess I'm just wondering, since SHIELD is a government agency... can't the government get all the SHIELD files if they make the request for it. Why go thru this registration stuff when SHIELD already has most of the information? I'm just a little boggled.

[Sheng-Long]

I don't think SHIELD knows about Spider-man, Nick Fury keeps his own personal files on everyone though (like the ones in Secret War) but SHIELD doesn't know where he is.

...I'm still with Tony Stark!

[Sano]

Registration means you reveal your identity to the Government, not the public. But the way the book was headed it seemed like Petey was going to reveal his identity to everybody, as a show of good faith. Both Mary Jane and Aunt May were urging him to stop hiding to the world, take credit for his good deeds and so forth. Course he could still announce that he's against registration and team up with Captain America, arg... very good cliffhanger.

So far the story in Humberto Ramos Wolverine is good, he's going to go after Nitro who caused this entire Civil War event to happen. Everyone is telling him not to, leave it alone for now, they have bigger fish to fry but he's gonna do it anyway. Best line was when Wolverine compared a Sentinel standing in front of the X Mansion to a burning cross in front of someone's house. Well it's early in the story to form any kind of real opinion on it but it's already better than the letdown that is Wolverine Origins...

I'm still with Captain America! I won't hate on Spidey if he sides with Iron Man or anything, he's got Mary Jane and Aunt May to think about.

[flyboyz2000k]

Eternals Podcast:
http://www.marvel.com/rss/podcasts/Gaiman_Podcast_part_1.mp3

I have never actually read Eternals let alone heard of them before visiting the Marvel site. I am looking forward to it though, this guy kinds of looks like Orion from the DC new gods so I will be looking forward to it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3c/Eternals_comic_romitajr.jpg/250px-Eternals_comic_romitajr.jpg

It was a pretty good Podcast at the beginning then towards the end it started to get a little boring, but over all I would say it is ok.

[Agmaster]

Can I get in on this pool. I'm thinking 32. A little after halfway. I have no clue what the spidey pool is, but I am guessing which side is he on. It's wierd how most people we know where they are going to go, but Spidey's like the only one who we don't know.

I'm disappointed TS did't put anti-psy gear in the new spider suit. Everything else is there.

[P. Gorath]

zeph - the 7 soldiers tpb schedule got screwed up due to 7s # 1 being delayed, im not sure when vol. 3 is supposed to come out now

[FreddyL0c0]

I don't think SHIELD knows about Spider-man, Nick Fury keeps his own personal files on everyone though (like the ones in Secret War) but SHIELD doesn't know where he is.

...I'm still with Tony Stark!


As evidenced in the last New Avengers issue, Shield knows everything about Spider-Man.

[Sheng-Long]

Oh yeah, that one, but then that's after they went through his head.

I still don't think they have the files Nick Fury had on all the heroes.

[box]

Oh yeah, that one, but then that's after they went through his head.

I still don't think they have the files Nick Fury had on all the heroes.

Why wouldn't they? If Nick Fury is kicked off SHIELD, what's to prevent them from accessing his files.

[Superking]

SHIELD is crazy.

[Sano]

52 POO

AzN_Skater - Week 17
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Adam Warlock - Week 52

[flyboyz2000k]

Sano you were right it was a great cliffhanger to amazing spider-man. Damn though Aunt may had to hit him where it hurts. I was with peter the whole way when he was ready to walk out the door, but she just had to bring up Uncle Ben and his infamous quote. That even hurt me in the chest. Definitly one of the MAny good reads I have been getting lately.

Wolverine probably should have said somthing like how would you like it if the KKK were outside your doorstep trying to protect you, but be still owned the discussion.

[The Damned]

52 POO

AzN_Skater - Week 17
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Adam Warlock - Week 52

Sorry to keep nitpicking words, but this typo is too funny; you meant "pool", correct?

Anyway, put me down for Week 26.

Hmmm...I can't really say anything else, since I still don't feel like writing that lengthy post about Watchmen that I had planned and I haven't otherwise read comics in a year.

So...can anyone suggest comics to get into that aren't part of some large event like "Civil War" or "Infinite Crisis" or "52"? (How much do those 52 comics cost anyway?)

Oh, and that reminds me: What's happening on the Storm's getting married front?

[Wellman]

Sano: Put me down for week 24 on the 52 pool.

The Damned: Well avoiding large crossovers, I would check out The Goon from Dark Horse also Nextwave, good stuff in my opinion but they are sort of love it or hate humor and stylings.

Anything else is slipping my mind right now.

Planet Hulk, while epic is contained only in one title. Surprisingly it has been very good and if followed up on when he returns to the Marvel Universe is status quo changing for the Hulk's character.

[maxx]

can anyone tell me who drew this?
http://www.newsarama.com/WWPhilly06/Marvel/XMenpanel/NewX28.htm

i wanna check more of his art out.

[Kim Sue-il]

Planet Hulk, while epic is contained only in one title. Surprisingly it has been very good and if followed up on when he returns to the Marvel Universe is status quo changing for the Hulk's character.


All I know is when Planet Hulk is over and Hulk is back on Earth, there's going to be hell to pay. No puny Banner gonna stand in Hulks way of revenge.

[Preppy]

can anyone tell me who drew this?
http://www.newsarama.com/WWPhilly06/Marvel/XMenpanel/NewX28.htm

i wanna check more of his art out.Paco Medina and Juan Vlasco - hence the PM! Vlasco credit on it - this (http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=4440) mentions it, but only gives Medina credit(?).

Weird to see Nimrod back... ?

[Zephyranthes]

Nimrod is a weird name for a villain, even if he is a robot.

[KungfuJoe]

Paco Medina and Juan Vlasco - hence the PM! Vlasco credit on it - this (http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=4440) mentions it, but only gives Medina credit(?).

Weird to see Nimrod back... ?

Beat me to it that is right it is Paco Medina.

KFJ

[Taichi]

Well, it finally happened......

Taichi, your "Dyed in the Wool" Hardcore DC Fan has stepped into Marvel Territory......

Civil War did it, but then Astonishing X-Men sealed it......

good stuff.....

also, Here's a not-too-pleasant review of "All-Star Batman" for you: http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox7/

[Kim Sue-il]

also, Here's a not-too-pleasant review of "All-Star Batman" for you: http://www.i-mockery.com/comics/longbox7/


That review just made my day. I love how he explains the milk carton/traveling to the Batcave theory! All Star Batman eats rats of his own free will. I don't know whos more twisted the god damn All Star Batman or Frank Miller for writing it. Well, it's a entertaining book, DC just needs to stop delaying it.

[Taichi]

it's a good book, not because it's well written, it's a good book, because it's so BAD!

it's like a train wreck......you know no good can come of it, but you can't tear your eyes away from it......

[Pained Auron]

time for a new pool guys:

Who Is DareDevil?

i say hawkeye

[Sano]

IAnd the winner of the Which Week of 52 Will Ship Late Pool (we gotta come up with a shorter name. Like 52 Poo.)

It wasn't my typo, see above ^ I honestly thought Zephyranthes wanted me to call it 52 Poo. :rofl: Well, I'll call it Pool unless he meant otherwise, I took 'Poo' to be a pun on the word 'Pool.' :sweat:

52 POOL

AzN_Skater - Week 17
Wellman - Week 24
The Damned - Week 26
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Adam Warlock - Week 52

[Taichi]

what's with the pool, and what do you win if your week is picked?

I say week 27

[Nemesis00]

Paco Medina is a good artist. I like his Venom.

[Zephyranthes]

It wasn't my typo, see above ^ I honestly thought Zephyranthes wanted me to call it 52 Poo. :rofl: Well, I'll call it Pool unless he meant otherwise, I took 'Poo' to be a pun on the word 'Pool.' :sweat:


Ha ha, yeah. I intentionally left it as "Poo" because it rhymes more smoothly with "two." If sano had just called it the 52 Pool I wouldn't have said anything, but he's a meticulous guy so it is now officially the 52 Poo. Besides, who knows... 52 may be full of shit! Oh. And the prize is a complimentary copy of Rob Liefeld's X-Force #1!!!! (I found a copy when I was cleaning my house. Sadly, it's no longer sealed in the polybag and I have no idea what happened to the trading card.)

As for the Daredevil Pool... My hope beyond hopes is that this is actually The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu. I sort of suspect it could be Iron Fist, but Iron Fist seems a little too obvious. Hawkeye sounds good, but I heard he came back in She-Hulk (I'm waiting for the trade), so I don't know. So put me down for The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu.

Honestly, right now Brubaker's DD is so out of control that I have no idea what's next. I mean, Brubaker is the guy that brought back You-Know-Who in Captain America. The guy who had the Engineer give Jack Hawksmoor a blowjob in the Oval Office. The guy who made Catwoman's sister eat the eyeball of her dead husband. The guy who spoiled Hawkeye's death before Avengers Disassembled ended. Seriously it feels like anything could happen. A Celestial could come out of the sky, grab Ben Urich, and climb to the top of the Empire State Building and I wouldn't bat an eye. For all I know, this Daredevil running around is just more fallout from Superboy punching the very fabric of reality itself, sending "cross-continuity shockwaves" resonating throughout the Marvel Universe. I just have no idea.

But really, put me down for The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu.

[Pained Auron]

hawkeye still hasn't made a return. marvel says that when it happens, it's gonna be big. that's why i think he's daredevil.

the church of bru is going to keep growing. next stop is x-men fans. they will be welcomed into our church.


DareDevil Pool

Pained Auron : Hawkeye

Zephy : Shang-Chi

[AznSup3rman]

Hey, this question has probably been repeated many many times but can anyone recomend me some good X men, spidey, green lantern, and any other note worthy reads? Im looking for some TPB and want to get into the comic scene but am lost with everything going on. Hopefully i'll be picking up something this week. Thanks a ton

[Wellman]

I'll say maybe its that Paladin dude that shot DD in the previous arc.

[Rage02fire]

hawkeye still hasn't made a return. marvel says that when it happens, it's gonna be big. that's why i think he's daredevil.

the church of bru is going to keep growing. next stop is x-men fans. they will be welcomed into our church.


DareDevil Pool

Pained Auron : Hawkeye

Zephy : Shang-Chi

I'm gonna have to say either Captain America, spiderman or .........THOR.:rofl:

JP my third guest is MoonKnight.

[flyboyz2000k]

Hey, this question has probably been repeated many many times but can anyone recomend me some good X men, spidey, green lantern, and any other note worthy reads? Im looking for some TPB and want to get into the comic scene but am lost with everything going on. Hopefully i'll be picking up something this week. Thanks a ton

Well x-men and spider-man all depend on what universe you are talking about. I have only fully read ultimate spider-man and ultimate X-men which in my opinion are really good. The Ultimate Marvel series is my favorite universe so I reccomend that to you. Civil War is new arc in the Marvel Universe so I reccomend you get caught up. House of M was very good in my opinion and a long time coming if you ask me. I am not much of a green lantern fan, but I read Green lantern Rebirth and thought that was pretty good. Batman No mans Land 1-5 and Batman a Death in the family are good. Wonder Woman the hikateia was really good especially since a good wonder woman TPB is so hard to find being so few. This is an Else world, but I thought Superman the dark side was really good.
I just recently read Book of Doom and I have to say it has been one of the best reads I have had. The story was just very captivating to me. Annihilation is also something I think you should get caught up with which is a good series bringing back some very good characters. Marvel has also released a new Moon Knight which is really good. Since you are an X-men fan you might want to read Black Panther and Storm. I dont want to spoil it but it is a Big surprise.
DC just recently finished Infinite Crisis and it is a must read if you are into the DC universe. DC Identity Crisis was really good aswell. Batman/Superman and The legion of Superheroes are a comic I really try to stay up to date on since they are my favorite right now. Justice League Elite was pretty good it gets kind of stale early on, but turns great towards the end. Seven Soldiers From DC is very impresive and there new spin on some old characters is genius. I love what they have done to Klarion I cant wait to see more. That is it for me, but i am still reading and trying to expand, but there are so many out their it is hard to find the time. Good luck, i hope I was able to help.

[Zephyranthes]

Haha, that would be pretty funny if it were Thor. Or Xorn.

You know what, if Hawkeye hasn't shown up yet, there probably is a good chance of Hawkeye being the new DD running around. That scene at the end of the issue where he finds the murdered guard, he says, "Oh man." That sounds like something Hawkeye would say. I realize "Oh man" is a generic phrase, though. But in my racist mind, if The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu had found the body, he wouldn't have said, "Oh man," he would have said, "Ai-ya!"

Plus, that scene when he gets the drop on some junkies, DD says, "Bad news, speed freaks. Your connection isn't going to show. There's just me tonight." That doesn't sound like something The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu would say. Although come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever even read a comic starring The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu, so I don't have a great ear for his voice.

Then, when DD knocks out the junkies and finds "five kilos of crystal meth," he says, "Looks like my source was right on target." The thing is, when he says the word "target," it's in a panel all by itself. "Target." Target? Is there a connection to a bullseye here? Shooting arrows at targets? Is this some clever foreshadowing? Or is it just a coincidence and I'm obsessing over nothing? U-Decide!!!!

Plus, at the end of House of M, Hawkeye ditched his gear. Guess he didn't want to be found for a while, so I guess it makes sense for him to switch to a new identity. Maybe he thinks that by playing Daredevil, he can help Matt somehow. Plus, Hawkeye's been in jail before, so he probably has an idea of what Matt's going through. After all that stuff with the Thunderbolts, maybe Hawkeye knows what it's like when the feds are out to get you, so he's trying to draw some heat off Matt.

Most of all, this just sounds like something Brubaker would do... Hawkeye. I think Brubaker likes the character, so it's pretty possible. I've pretty much convinced myself that this is Hawkeye.

I'm still hoping it's The Deadly Hands Of Shang-Chi, Master Of Kung-Fu, though.

[Sano]

Okay, I'll leave it as 52 Poo. 'Cuz if the book ever ships late, seriously, POO! :rofl: Whoever guesses the closest to the date the book ships late or the exact date wins X-Force 1 signed by Rob Liefeld for your setting on fire pleasure. :lol: Right now if the book ships in between two dates, say for example it comes out on week 25 we'll have to think of something so two people can get something, but we don't have to wory about that for another 20 weeks. Right now if the book doesn't ship late, starting with week 21 AzN_Skater will be eliminated because the date will be closer Wellman's date. If the book ship's late, let's say this week AzN_Skater wins because it's closest to his date. That's what I'm thinking of now, open to suggestions.

52 POO

AzN_Skater - Week 17
Wellman - Week 24
The Damned - Week 26
Taichi - Week 27
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Adam Warlock - Week 52

[Taichi]

I made my guess near the middle, because, well......they say the first 26 are pretty much done......

so, based on that, I'd say they 'MIGHT' rest on their laurels, and think they're ahead of the curve.....

if it's gonna be late, it'll be somewhere after the first half has shipped......

[soup or man]

So, uh, Ultimate Extinction is done. All that build up and we get 1 comic for an invasion, a battle, and a solution. Reed was so disgusted with himself because his solution would destroy a new universe? Or because he didn't think it was right? Or because he didn't think it would work? Never very clear.

Totally bleh.

[Zephyranthes]

Regarding our 52 Poo: What we COULD possibly do, is the same thing we're doing with the Spider-Pool. Only an exact guess wins. None of the pussyfooting of "closest number wins." All or nothing. And in the event that none of us wins, then I will bear the punishment by using a magnet to place X-Force #1 on my refrigerator for 52 straight weeks.

[Sano]

Okay we'll do that. Exact date wins then.

[Pained Auron]

DareDevil Pool

Pained Auron : Hawkeye

Zephy : Shang-Chi

Wellman : the Paladdin guy who shot DD

Rage : thor

[Nemesis00]

It's Ben Reiley.

[AznSup3rman]

Age of apocalypse any good?

[AzN_Skater]

Put me down for Taskmaster being the new DD. haha.

[Pained Auron]

Age of apocalypse any good?


hell fucking yes

[AznSup3rman]

hell fucking yes

Alright thanks :D

[Zephyranthes]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a sec... Before you start plunking down the cash for Age of Apocalypse comics, it is my duty to inform you of this auction I came across while browsing eBay. (No, the seller isn't me and I don't know him.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/FABLES-Vol-1-6-DC-VERTIGO-TPBs-COMPLETE-NEW-MINT-FABLES_W0QQitemZ6634662923QQcategoryZ3954QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

2 days left. Keep an eye on it and see if you can snipe it at the end.

And now, to put on my "Carpet Lint Hat" -

FAAAAAAAAAAAAABLES!!!!!!1

[Preppy]

FWIW, avoid Alan Moore's 1963. I picked this up on eBay because I was curious and it turns out to be pretty awful. Oh well. =\

[Adam Warlock]

DareDevil Pool

Pained Auron : Hawkeye

Zephy : Shang-Chi

Wellman : the Paladdin guy who shot DD

Rage : thor

Nemesis: ben Reilly
My vote: D-man

[Sheng-Long]

lol I'm playing safe and going with Danny Rand aka Iron Fist.

[RockBogart]

Im gonna say DD is Iron Fist.

[box]

Put me down for Ronin = DD. :wgrin:

LOL.

Actually that would be pretty bad. Marvel pissed off a ton of fans when they revealed that Ronin was actually female, even though the way she was drawn suggested she was a male. If they make some whack ass explanation that DD is actually female, I would explode.

[Sheng-Long]

Other possible DDs:

- Moon Knight (one of his multiple personalities)
- Taskmaster (where is he now?)
- Deadpool
- Ben Affleck
- Jason Todd

EDIT:

...put me down for week 51 for the DC pool since NEVER is not an option !

[Adam Warlock]

Im gonna say DD is Iron Fist.
Gotta pick someone else. Shen said rand.

[DeathScythe]

Put me down for the 52 Poo. My week pick? 45.

[P. Gorath]

so im getting the feeling that all star batman may not be as bad as people are making it out to be. i havent read any of the issues yet but i flipped through #4 at the bookstore and the batcave spread was pretty cool.

[Zephyranthes]

Yeah... I guess All-Star Batman might not be as bad as most people would say. But it's not that good, either. I think it's a pretty funny comic, but it's still something that I'd rather read at the store than buy for myself. But the fact that it's several months between issues kills the momentum. If it were a truly great comic like The Ultimates, it wouldn't bother me to have to wait 8 months between issues. ASB will probably make a nice hardcover or paperback.

I think people just expected Miller to write another Year One-type story, but he's more into his own thing now. Even today when I hear people hating on DKSA, I can't help but smile a little. I do think ASB would be more entertaining if he drew it himself, though. The humor usually doesn't come through in Jim Lee's drawings. He draws amazing posters but Frank Miller's story is more like Sin City with capes (and on crack).

[ViciousSLASH]

lol @ D-Man.

Even DD's mask looks like Iron Fist's, but wouldn't wolvie notice it wasn't DD or Iron Fist right away when they were all in that room ?

[RockBogart]

lol @ D-Man.

Even DD's mask looks like Iron Fist's, but wouldn't wolvie notice it wasn't DD or Iron Fist right away when they were all in that room ?


He probably doesnt care. There a few peoples who can figure out who it is without removing the mask. Telepaths, Wolverine, Black Panther and other people with keen senses top the list. It would be funny is BP put on white make up and pretended to be DD.


You know what im gonan go out on a limb and say NICK FUCKING FURY or Bullseye, since all my other options are taken

[Tantin]

- Deadpool


Yellow bubbles.

[Zephyranthes]

Bullseye has already made an appearance, and it doesn't look like there's much chance of him playing Daredevil... But what you said made me think about a man who can be in multiple places at once... It's gotta be a malcontent Madrox dupe!! ...But most likely Hawkeye. Curse you Pained Auron for spoiling it for me!!!

[Pained Auron]

Bullseye has already made an appearance, and it doesn't look like there's much chance of him playing Daredevil... But what you said made me think about a man who can be in multiple places at once... It's gotta be a malcontent Madrox dupe!! ...But most likely Hawkeye. Curse you Pained Auron for spoiling it for me!!!


haha anytime

UPDATED DD POOL

Pained Auron : Hawkeye

Zephy : Shang-Chi

Wellman : the Paladdin guy who shot DD

Rage : thor

Nemesis: ben Reilly

Adam Warlock : D-man

Box : Ronin (gay ass white name)

AzN_Skater : taskmaster

[m121akuma]

- Deadpool

DP is going to be fighting DD in 2 months, so I doubt it.

[Nemesis00]

The only reason why it wouldn't be Ben Reiley is because Brubaker browsed SRK, saw my post, and changed the story because someone caught on to him.

[P. Gorath]

new dd is chris powell

[Zephyranthes]

That's some real Darkhawk love. Psycho, have you been reading Runaways at all?

[P. Gorath]

i have the first hardcover so i will get the second when it comes out, looking forward to it. vaugn should give in already and put sleepwalker in it

[Zephyranthes]

Darkhawk appears in Runaways volume 2. It's pretty sweet. Actually, both Darkhawk and Sleepwalker appeared in a storyline in Kirkman's Marvel Team-Up a few months ago.

[Agmaster]

DP is going to be losing toDD in 2 months, so I doubt it.

Fixed. Poor Wade never wins.

[Nemesis00]

He might now beat DD, but he'll kick the GLX-Men's asses. :)

[Zephyranthes]

Oh yeah Psycho, are you gonna get the new Gargoyles comic? I think the first issue is supposed to come out next week.

[RockBogart]

Auron I think your forgetting someone.......

[Sano]

52 POO

AzN_Skater - Week 17
Wellman - Week 24
The Damned - Week 26
Taichi - Week 27
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Deathscythe - Week 45
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Sheng-Long - Week 51
Adam Warlock - Week 52

[DA GAME]

Is the new issue of Street Fighter out yet?

[Pained Auron]

Auron I think your forgetting someone.......



refresh my memory please

[RockBogart]

I said Nick Fury

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Blackbolt is a beast....


Son of M #6 was good stuff. looks like QS is gonna play a big role in the Marvel universe.

[Wellman]

Son of M is easily the best thing to come out of House of M.

[m121akuma]

Fixed. Poor Wade never wins.
;_; Maybe this time will be different!

[ViciousSLASH]

X Men Deadly Genesis was awesome.

Brubaker is untouchable right now.

[Taichi]

anybody else get a little choked up with "Batman/Superman #26"?

[The Bucket Of Truth]

was supergirl depreived of her first kiss? damn superman/batman sucked when i read it. has it picked up since?

[Sano]

Is the new issue of Street Fighter out yet?

Nope. Erik Ko said they wrapped up issue 4 last week, just gotta wait until it ships. Hopefully it will come in next week or the week after.

EDIT: I gave the Devil May Cry Novel that came out last Wednesday a review here if anyone cares -

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114856

Leaving soon to pick up some funny books. Talk about them tomorrow.

[Pained Auron]

man silver surfer is a fucking beast now. will explain later

[P. Gorath]

seven soldiers vol. 3 came out today btw

[Taichi]

was supergirl depreived of her first kiss? damn superman/batman sucked when i read it. has it picked up since?

naw, this is the issue dedicated to Jeph Loeb's late son, Sam.....

pretty good story, with a pretty somber backup.......

and the biggest collaborative effort (27 creators, including Sam) in years.......

[Angry Black]

does anybody know wich xmen comic series that has all the omega mutants and alpha mutants and ice man being maxed out (astonishing/amazing x-menor something along those lines)

[Sano]

Read one comic so far. Check out Civil War Frontlines for some more info on where Spidey stands on Registration, but you won't get a clear answer either way. Spoiler ---



We still don't know which way Spider-Man is going to go with Registration. But they did show Iron Man at the press conference just before Spider-Man. Iron Man did unmask himself in front of everybody as an act of good faith. Leading one to believe that it is is possible that Spider-Man is going to do the same exact thing in the next issue of Amazing. Still, Spidey seemed wishy washy about the entire ordeal throughout the book, the suspense is killer...

[Sano]

Mas Y Menos will becoming Comic Book characters and they originally wanted to kill a certain someone during the Crisis but they didn't plus lots of other DC news. Sources, Crisis and 52 spoilers -

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005205

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005202

Marvel stuff. Spider-Man won't be having any babies while Quesada is Editor in chief and they claim that the Mary Jane / Peter Parker marriage was forced on them. And other news -

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005209

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005203

[AzN_Skater]

New X-Men is awesome, my personal choice for post HoM.

[flyboyz2000k]

Son of M is easily the best thing to come out of House of M.

Actually Son of M is apart of the Decimation arc, Best house of m was the original titled limited series.

does anybody know wich xmen comic series that has all the omega mutants and alpha mutants and ice man being maxed out (astonishing/amazing x-menor something along those lines)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-Level_Mutant

That will tell you everything you need to read on Omega level mutants.

New X-Men is awesome, my personal choice for post HoM.

Only part of the new x-men is apart od decimation [post HoM]. If you haven't read the whole thign you should read it, it is pretty good. It would have been better if they incorporated the other teams, but oh well.

[P. Gorath]

house of m was horrible

[Pained Auron]

house of m was horrible



quoted for truth


anyway, i got a few books today, i must say that the art in wonder woman was very nice.

SPOILERS AHEAD




civil war frontline seems like it will be a good book. nice setup, plus they found the lone new warriors survivor which ahppens to be speedball. somehow his powers absorbed the explosion, and sent him flying like 500 miles. now he is powerless and arrested.

detective comics was decent. cant remember much of what happened except an appearance by sbp.

but the book of the week by far is annihilation silver surfer. galactus' current herald shows up to where SS and some former heralds are planning an attck, and tells SS that galactus requests his presence. so he leaves and the 3 remaining heralds fight off some annihilation ships. SS finds galactus and they talk for a while. now here is where it gets good. galactus offers SS the chance to be a herald again. after some thinking by SS, he accepts and requests to keep his remorse. galactus aggrees and fully powers him up again. SS was followed by some enemies that wanted to capture or kill galactus. they ask where SS is, and he appears and starts to tear shit up. i can't wait for the actual annihilation story.


i got a few more but can't rememember atm. post up my reviews later.......if i'm not feeling lazy that is

[Zephyranthes]

How come you guys hate House of M so much? I thought it was about as good as a company-wide crossover could get. But I'm also one of those people who hates Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis.

[flyboyz2000k]

House of m is one of my faves I dont really see anything wrong with it. Its all a matter of taste though. Some people will like it and some people wont. I would liek to know though why people dont like it.

[AzN_Skater]

I liked house of M a lot, not sure why so many haters.

If they incorporated New X-Men into a larger role in the main X book continuity, or the marvel u continuity for that matter, it would be damn awesome.

[Wellman]

House of M might read better as a trade, but if you followed that shit as the issues came out, it was weak. Weak as hell.

Seriously barely anything happened in the first two issues and it took damn near two issues to get everyone to remember. No one explained who the fuck was Laylah Miller. The entire world wasn't explained well enough as to why Wolverine a mutant or anyone with a better life would want to see it destroyed. The ending was a huge fuck you, since you realize that THE whole thing was just to undo a Morrision plot point, AGAIN.

[Zephyranthes]

I read the issues as they were coming out, and I remember they totally had that slow burn for which Bendis is known. But I enjoy that, the long build up with lots of character pieces. Plus, the art was really good, and I think sometimes great art can help an okay story feel a lot better than it actually is.

You're right about Layla Miller, though; she is a glorified plot device. I guess I just didn't really think about that until you mentioned it. And now Marvel is trying to go all "DC style" with her, by putting her in X-Factor to gain reader interest. (I feel I must qualify this statement by adding that I've read a couple issues of X-Factor, and I think it's pretty good regardless of her inclusion.)

I think that all the mutants and heroes who had the better lives wanted to fight against the House of M because they just knew it was wrong. Y'know, one of those classic integrity-filled Right Vs. Wrong moments. They all want better lives for mutants, but not at the cost of rewriting the very fabric of reality itself! (Or something appropriately grave-sounding.) Of course, this doesn't explain to me why guys like Toad were fighting against the House of M. (Or am I mistaken? It's been a while since I read it.)

If there was one weird plot logical-gap thingy that I didn't understand, it was why some characters got to have the lives that they always wanted, while others got the shaft. It just seemed kinda random... Like Carol Danvers got to become the greatest superheroine in the world, which is what she wanted, while Luke Cage got to live in the sewer to fight the power. I suppose that's another thing I just accepted because I thought the rest of the story was pretty fun and entertaining.

I am one of the biggest Morrison fans around, and I love his New X-Men run. In my mind, Planet X is the greatest single X-Men arc ever. But somehow, it didn't really bother me that they used Chaos Magic, or whatever it was, to depower thousands (millions?) of mutants. Now, I can't really explain why this doesn't bother me when the fact that DC made Maxwell Lord into a twisted psycopathic supervillain bugs the crap out of me. I don't think it's because I like Marvel more than DC, though. It's something I'd have to think about in order to explain.

On the other hand, reducing the Xorn Magneto as a figment of the Scarlet Witch's powers is pretty disgusting. That pissed me off for a good long while when I read that damn "IMPOSTER" line in that Excalibur (Claremont) comic. To this very day, I do not acknowledge the Magneto in Post-Planet X to be Magneto. As far as I'm concerned, the real Magneto had his head sliced the hell off by Logan.

Well, I liked House of M because it was a fun and unpretentious crossover with a bunch of cool characters and some awesome art. I'm sure alternate universe stories are hated by many people but I kind of enjoy them because sometimes they offer fun little tidbits of insight into various characters. Plus, change is such an unlikely thing that alternate universes are like the closest thing we'll ever get to real changes.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

I read House of M as a trade and it was great...Actually i do think it would have been a lil slow paced if i would have read it book by book...But i read it back to back with the avengers disassembled and Civil war issue 1 so it all was really great too me.

[Sano]

I thought House of M was okay at best, but I had two problems with it -

A. They found out this world was fake too fast. They could of spent a few more issues on that.

B. Everyone was supposed to acheive their greatest desires. For some characters it just made me think "This is their greatest desire?" or "Do the writers even know these characters or are they just re-imaging them as they see fit?" Age of Apocalypse (original series) made sense to me, it was easy to embrace how these characters would re-act in a world without Xavier. House of M just made me go.... "Huuuuh?" with a few characters...

Though it was pretty good as far as comic book crossovers go. Avengers Dissasembeled and so far Civil War are so much better, House of M is just the weakest of the 3 IMHO.

[box]

B. Everyone was supposed to acheive their greatest desires. For some characters it just made me think "This is their greatest desire?" or "Do the writers even know these characters or are they just re-imaging them as they see fit?" Age of Apocalypse (original series) made sense to me, it was easy to embrace how these characters would re-act in a world without Xavier. House of M just made me go.... "Huuuuh?" with a few characters...


Agreed. Characters like Cage. It seemed like his greatest desire is to have dreadlox, and be a criminal, and be without a kid and without a wife. He really didn't seem to fit the rule.

I don't think I've read a good crossover since the infinity gauntlet.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

lol cage had to be the sterotypical black man IN BOTH REALITYS!!11! ..In the 616 he's got a white girlfriend thats knocked up and he's about to marry, and living in a top tier building and famous lol. Sterotypical Blackman's dream right there:rofl: ...But we all know what cage really wanted. He wanted to thug in the street's while wearing corn rolls a wife beater and listening to lil wayne and young jeezy. You can't hide from what you are...:rolleyes:

[Sheng-Long]

Cage makes sense to me, he was the leader of the resistance and no greater statement of fighting "the man" than that.

What was up with Dr. Doom? Somebody willed him out of hell/(death)? 2nd string to Magneto? I guess that's the compromise since Scarlett Witch made Magneto world ruler or since his mother was alive that was actually his greatest wish instead of world domination, but still....why was Doom there? And Reed and Susan were dead from their space expedition? Did somebody wish that?

Grimm was also still in rock form, you'd think he would get his wish.

[Sano]

Things in House of M that made me go, HUUUH???

Cyclops still with Emma Frost - Just how strong did future Jean Grey's love spell on him work that this would be his deepest desire instead of being with Jean Grey or even Madeline Pryor? I seriously have trouble buying this one. Even if it's Emma's wish... I just see Cyke/Frost doomed to failure from the get go so I'd think deep down she'd want to be with someone else. Boy Scout + Bitch = Disastor sooner or later...

Peter Parker with Gwen Stacy - To every writer in the world - Gwen Stacy is dead. Stop cheapening her death by having her appear in a comic every six months. Get over it. And the timing, him married to Gwen in House of M after he found out she cheated on him with Norman Osborne? Uh... Seriously, every writer in the world, get over it! *Rant from a Spider-Man/Mary Jane fan... ignore...*

Captain America old and retired - I get him being old, but retired? No way. He should be an old man still kicking ass! Or at least the President of the United States, c'mon give me something here...

Wolverine and Mystique together? Instead of Wolverine and Jean, the lady who looked like Jean Grey in his origin story, Mariko, Elektra, Storm... anyone other than Mystique! It's like someone just watched the X-Men 2 movie, saw Mystique on top of Wolverine and thought up of that one...

Luke Cage, Doom, Thing, other ones that have been covered... what the... it just makes me wonder if they really wanted to give people their true desires or just create shock value or say "You think you know these characters but you don't" without making it seem like they know the characters...

[P. Gorath]

I read houseof M as a trade and it sucked. My review is somewhere else in this thread but to re-cap:

-It was basically a really lazy, cheap AoA ripoff with none of the imagination
-It could have been told in 3 issues max, or if it was a DC book it would have been an 80 page single issue for one dollar
-The entire thing was all setup
-You had to wade through crappy characters like luke cage and jessica jones
-full page of collosus pulling a tractor
-did i mention this whole thing had been done before, but better?

the cover art was pretty, thats about it

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Things in House of M that made me go, HUUUH???

Cyclops still with Emma Frost - Just how strong did future Jean Grey's love spell on him work that this would be his deepest desire instead of being with Jean Grey or even Madeline Pryor? I seriously have trouble buying this one.

Peter Parker with Gwen Stacy - To every writer in the world - Gwen Stacy is dead. Stop cheapening her death by having her appear in a comic every six months. Get over it. And the timing, him married to Gwen in House of M after he found out she cheated on him with Norman Osborne? Uh... Seriously, ever writer in the world, get over it! *Rant from a Spider-Man/Mary Jane fan... ignore...*

Captain America old and retired - I get him being old, but retired? No way. He should be an old man still kicking ass! Or at least the President of the United States, c'mon give me something here...

Wolverine and Mystique together? Instead of Wolverine and Jean, the lady who looked like Jean Grey in his origin story, Mariko, Elektra, Storm... anyone other than Mystique! It's like someone just watched the X-Men 2 movie, saw Mystique on top of Wolverine and thought up of that one...

Well wanda just gave them what they wanted currently/most it seems. But not there most desired wishes. Emma and cyclops make sense.... They actually love each other and really "care" for each other. Altho his deepest deisre might to want to have jean back, that doesn't mean he's not happy with the current realtionship he's in. i really can never see jean and cyclops ever beeing together again. He blantantly cheated on jean and pretty much fail in love with another woman. But its apparent that he still deeply love's jean. But it seems emma is more of what he needs.

Well gwen was peters 1st love(if im remebering correctly), and if its anything he could change it'd prob be her death and ben being alive. So that make sense to me too, and if she wouldn't have died MJ and paker prob wouldn't have ended up together. Its kinda like the opposite of cyclops and emma.... unlike those two and as shown in HoM if peter could change things or live that life he was in he prob would more so than anyone.


As for the captain....Everything pretty much is a peaceful utopia. Captain america isn't even really needed. Nor ever was.....


As for wolverine and Mystique it makes sense they were soliders.... And personally I thought they would always make a good couple. They've always come of like they are more at home on the batlefield anyway. I guess it's only natural they'd hook up.

As for nightcrawler rouge and the rest..... them being of shield was totally out of place.



Out of 8 books only 3 dealed with the actually alternate universe. the rest took place in 616 And mostly dealt with crazy wanda and them waking up to realize things where no more mutants. It's really not that bad. eh, i enjoyed it.

[Sano]

52 Spoilers, highlight to view -

Lex Luthor continues to beast as he's come up with a formula that can give anyone super powers so the world won't have to rely on superheroes anymore. Didn't he read Kingdom Come? Yeah I'm sure that will work out fine ha ha! Starfire comes out naked bathing in a stream, (Hotness! Course you don't see any X Rated shots but still...) wet water makes her hair straight like the Teen Titans cartoon and not that big oogly poofy haircut he's been rocking for about 20 years whenever someone who is not Michael Turner draws her, hope she keeps the new cut...

[Zephyranthes]

Things in House of M that made me go, HUUUH???

Peter Parker with Gwen Stacy - To every writer in the world - Gwen Stacy is dead. Stop cheapening her death by having her appear in a comic every six months. Get over it. And the timing, him married to Gwen in House of M after he found out she cheated on him with Norman Osborne? Uh... Seriously, ever writer in the world, get over it! *Rant from a Spider-Man/Mary Jane fan... ignore...*

Wolverine and Mystique together? Instead of Wolverine and Jean, the lady who looked like Jean Grey in his origin story, Mariko, Elektra, Storm... anyone other than Mystique! It's like someone just watched the X-Men 2 movie, saw Mystique on top of Wolverine and thought up of that one...


Yo, hang on a sec with the Gwen Stacy thing... It's okay to bring her back every other month, as long as Peter Milligan's doing it. Didja read the Dead Girl miniseries?

And as for Logan and Mystique, I happen to have this '90s Wolverine comic (by Larry Hama and Marc Silvestri) where they bang each other. In that comic, Logan was shootin' pool at some seedy dive, and a disguised Mystique hooks up with him, giving him some line about being lonely and stuff. Of course, the nose knows, so he knows he's bangin' a shapeshifter. And the funny thing is, in the morning, Jubilee finds him in bed at a random motel with Jean Grey. Or so she thinks.

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I don't know about too many good crossovers. I liked Infinity Gauntlet when it first came out because I was a kid and it was one of the first things that really grabbed my imagination, so it'll always have a welcome place in my heart. But I tried rereading it a few months ago and I got kinda bored. I just looked at the pictures instead and enjoyed the RON LIM POWER BLAST drawings. And those other Infinity crossovers (War, Crusade) were junk.

I also read three of those HoM spin-off books- Spider-Man, FF, Iron Man. I thought all of those were horrible, not just by crossover standards, but by general reading standards.

When WildStorm did their Coup De'Tat crossover a couple years ago (a month or two after Jim Lee finished his Hush story), I thought it was pretty good. Except for that one Micah Ian Wright issue of Stormwatch. That was garbage. But the rest of it was pretty good. Too bad none of those WS series were successful, though.

Someone is gonna have to explain to me the appeal of AoA. I never liked it at all. To tell the truth, once AoA got started, I got utterly bored with superheroes and swore off buying superhero comics for a good six or seven years. (AoA and the Clone Saga saved me a ton of money when I was younger.) It just seemed like there was no focus at all due to all the different writers and artists- no cohesion. When these AoA trades came out recently, I tried reading a little and I just couldn't slough through all the wordiness. To me, AoA was just the epitome of lowbrow '90s superhero comics.

[P. Gorath]

I actually would disagree zeph. Maybe its because I was always a big cosmic junkie, but I recently read the Infinity War tpb (which also includes some warlock + infinity watch issues) and I thought that it held up remarkably well, maybe even *gasp* better than gauntlet. the story is good and pretty intricate and there is a little dc flavor with the following of the different groups, the coolest of which being the dr. doom/kang team up. most of the dopplegangers were lame but they did factor into some cool crossover issues at least. And the art fucking rocks. Also, it was a major crossover that incorporated *both* darkhawk and sleepwalker so it cant be all bad.

per AoA your critique seems more suited to operation zero tolerance; I found AoA to be very imaginative and fun in how dark it was

i think im just a softie for 90s crossovers. re-reading Galactic Storm has been good too

[Zephyranthes]

I guess for me, it's hard sometimes to read through '90s comics that I used to like a lot when I was younger. Back then, I didn't really care if there were too many redundant captions, or if characters spoke their every thought out loud to the reader. Now, that kind of writing just seems dated to me, so it's tough for me to get into that stuff. But I still like a lot of the plots and the ideas they came up with during those times. The AoA concept is something that sounds pretty fun on paper but it would just feel like work for me to go back and read it all (plus the damn trades are like 30 bucks a pop or something). The dated style of writing is probably the main reason why it's so hard for me to go back to those crossovers and comics I used to like.

[Sano]

Yo, hang on a sec with the Gwen Stacy thing... It's okay to bring her back every other month, as long as Peter Milligan's doing it. Didja read the Dead Girl miniseries?

And as for Logan and Mystique, I happen to have this '90s Wolverine comic (by Larry Hama and Marc Silvestri) where they bang each other. In that comic, Logan was shootin' pool at some seedy dive, and a disguised Mystique hooks up with him, giving him some line about being lonely and stuff. Of course, the nose knows, so he knows he's bangin' a shapeshifter. And the funny thing is, in the morning, Jubilee finds him in bed at a random motel with Jean Grey. Or so she thinks.



Yeah I read Dead Girl, it was great, really funny! Even my initial worry about Dr. Strange Hemorroids was explained away. :rofl:

Logan and Mystique bang, heh... maybe it was so good it influenced his House of M decision for a mate.... nah, still don't buy it. Oh well to each his own I guess.

[P. Gorath]

yeah maybe because ive been reading a lot of silver age stuff that is way wordier than anything in the 90s

[Zephyranthes]

Haha yeah, I doubt a random '90s issue of Wolverine formed the basis of Logan and Mystique's relationship in House of M. I just thought it was funny 'cause Logan's got such a hairy back and he gets to bang every chick in the Marvel Universe.

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It's easier for me to accept Silver Age writing because that stuff is even older than the '90s. Nowawadays, when I read a Silver Age comic, it feels like I'm reading a piece of history. The '90s still feel too recent for me so I'm probably just not ready to analyze that stuff yet. One Silver Age comic I like a lot is the Silver Surfer stuff that Stan Lee wrote (collected in The Essential Silver Surfer). It's just jampacked with heady ideas, zany Stan Leeish philosophy, and lots of imagination. The dated dialogue somehow makes that book feel more alive than it should be in black and white.

[Sano]

Anyone watch the MTV movie awards last night? Christian Bale winning the award for best hero for Batman Begins getting the award from the guy playing Superman in the new Superman movie, thanking Bob Kane for creating Batman and turning around to the Superman actor and saying "Sorry Superman but Batman is the bad ass!" was God Tier. :tup:

[The Green Trench Coat]

House of M was okay. I don't like how Wolverine is always at the center of everything in the marvel universe..

When it happened.. I had to figure that House of M was bound to happen one of these days. One of the coolest things to me though was the fact that it reminded me how badass black panther really is. I mean sabertooth and then the assist from storm and blackbolt against apocolypse.. pretty cool stuff.


I had a feeling they used hom to bring back hawkeye.. But I thought for sure Jean would have been resurected in HOM but then .. I guess that brings it's own problems.. If jean were there I think they wouldn't have needed Layla miller at all to undo HOM. I mean for psychic talent these days Emma frost is very heavily relied on .. even more than Professor or Jean ever was and shes not even all that powerful i guess she just knows a few more tricks than Rachel or Betsy do.


Scarlet witch never really intrested me an after what she did at the end of HOM i kinda really hate her. i mean it's no secret.. the number of mutants out there were getting insane. I mean the school was crowded I knew something was going to happen to level the playing feild but to go from millions of mutants to hundreds. .. kinda lame.


the series i'm realy enjoying now is Ms. Marvel and New Xmen. In new Xmen Nimrod is back and that's so kick ass. Ms marvel I like cause she keeps getting everything wrong. Making mistakes.. for someone so strong she's so human. I really like that about her story. She's trying her heart out just to prove that she is the superhero she was in house of M. But true to her life story i'm sure something tragic will happen to her soon.

[Agmaster]

Things in House of M that made me go, HUUUH???

Peter Parker with Gwen Stacy - To every writer in the world - Gwen Stacy is dead. Stop cheapening her death by having her appear in a comic every six months. Get over it. And the timing, him married to Gwen in House of M after he found out she cheated on him with Norman Osborne? Uh... Seriously, ever writer in the world, get over it! *Rant from a Spider-Man/Mary Jane fan... ignore...*



My main beef with HoM was SM's utter lack of need to screw his own life over. Seriously, that was just tacky and reasonless.

[The Green Trench Coat]

My main beef with HoM was SM's utter lack of need to screw his own life over. Seriously, that was just tacky and reasonless.


Yeah that kinda threw out all that him and MJ had been through. If i was MJ I'd be Livid. I mean he punched mj in the face like 3 times.

[flyboyz2000k]

Annihilation Silver surfer 3 wasn't as good as i thought it would be. New X-men was ok. The ending to Ultimate extinction was actually pretty cool.

If you are reading batman secrets I reccomend you watch batman TAS mad love, it's really good.

I hated that the Joker was not seen in Justice league unlimited.

[AznSup3rman]

What is something good to read after House of M? Im looking for some TP's that are interesting and fun :]

[TheDarkPhoenix]

I think the outsider will be my 1st steady dc book

[Zephyranthes]

Mad Love (the comic and the cartoon episode) is definitely one of my favorite Batman stories of all time. It just does everything perfectly and it's got everything there is to like about Batman and his world.

I think Joker and all the other Bat-family related characters weren't in JLU due to some corporate bigwigs not wanting to confuse people because the Batman movie was in development at the time. Makes no sense.

What has been going on in Outsiders since the One Year Later thing? All I read was the first one that showed off the new roster. How come the new Captain Boomerang guy is on the team?

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AznSup3rman-
I don't know what kind of comics you're interested in, but I recommend Sleeper by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401201156/sr=8-1/qid=1149896480/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-8951975-0635809?%5Fencoding=UTF8

It's a modern classic. You can start with the book Point Blank (also by Brubaker, with art by Colin Wilson) if you want, it's sort of a prologue to Sleeper (which is four volumes). But Point Blank isn't totally necessary to get the whole story, it's just a really nice story. Sleeper is the truth.

[AznSup3rman]

What is something good in the marvel universe?

[Zephyranthes]

... In that case, just get some Daredevil.

[Wellman]

What has been going on in Outsiders since the One Year Later thing? All I read was the first one that showed off the new roster. How come the new Captain Boomerang guy is on the team?



Basically they have become an underground, mini Authority in the DCU.

[AznSup3rman]

Has anyone read The Darkness. Is it any good?

[Wellman]

I just browsed through Annihilation: Super Skrull and I have to say, despite the cartoony art, it is damn good. Thus making all four Annihiliation mini series, 4-0 as far as quality goes.

[Zephyranthes]

I don't think The Darkness is good. I don't think most of the Top Cow stuff is worth reading or buying. I have a friend who collects Top Cow books religiously, and even he admits they aren't that good. He just likes the art, I guess, but I don't even think the art's anything special. Darkness and Witchblade are pretty popular because the Top Cow house style is pretty commercial (i.e., full of gratuitous cheesecake and '90s style Image muscles) and attracts younger readers, but they are pretty low on substance.

[Sano]

I think Joker and all the other Bat-family related characters weren't in JLU due to some corporate bigwigs not wanting to confuse people because the Batman movie was in development at the time. Makes no sense.



It's part of the DC Embargo. DC/WB (not sure who is more responsible, DC or WB, both seem to play a hand in it given different quotes from the cartoon staff, well they are both part of the same company anyway...) didn't want any character appearing on multiple shows at one time. 'The Batman' had Joker and all of the Batman villains. Robin (Dick Grayson as Nightwing or Tim Drake as Robin) couldn't appear on 'The Batman' because he was on Teen Titans, so they used Batgirl instead on The Batman, and Robin/Nightwing couldn't appear on JLU for the same reason. After Teen Titans went off the air, they were able to show Speedy on JLU and give Nightwing a cameo. (Dick Grayson has had 3 cameos on JL/JLU. Once in the Natzi episode he was making out with Barbara Gordon in a messed up timeline where Germany won WWII, he attended Superman's funeral and Nightwing was shown in the Bludhaven episode). And now Robin voiced by Scott Menville who does his voice on Teen Titans will appear on The Batman.

The upcoming Batman Begins sequel also added to them not being able to use Joker on JLU, they didn't want him overexposed.

They did this because if you wanted to see any of these characters on TV, you were forced to watch their specific shows. Only exception was Batman who was on JLU and The Batman. But The Batman had his entire roster, minus Robin of course. The DC embargo really kicked into high gear during the last 2 seasons. Joker did get a cameo being shown with the Legion of Doom very early on, but didn't speak or do anything.

The entire DC Embargo is beyond retarted... at least next season only The Batman and Legion of Super Heroes will be on the air, we shouldn't have too many problems with this since both shows should have entirely different rosters. Maybe Superdog will be on the air too, but that show has an entirely different roster of people too (JLU Superman did a cameo in the first episode of Superdog).

[TheDarkPhoenix]

I just browsed through Annihilation: Super Skrull and I have to say, despite the cartoony art, it is damn good. Thus making all four Annihiliation mini series, 4-0 as far as quality goes.

Super skrull is really good, if only the insides looked like the covers. Altho the art work doesn't bother me, its still good imo. As far as the book, Man its really nice. Who knew SuperSkrull was such a monster...Anyway if anyone had to get one Annihilation book.... Super skrull should be that book.

[KungfuJoe]

Super skrull is really good, if only the insides looked like the covers. Altho the art work doesn't bother me, its still good imo. As far as the book, Man its really nice. Who knew SuperSkrull was such a monster...Anyway if anyone had to get one Annihilation book.... Super skrull should be that book.

All of the cover are all kick ass and yet the interior are just Ok.

KFJ

[Agmaster]

A; They're making a Blade TV series that is airing on SPike TV. Ah, we just need a Black Cat and it will be Xena and hercules all over again.
http://www.marvel.com/bladecontest?utm_source=corner%2Bbutton%2Bads&utm_medium=button&utm_content=blade%2Bcontest%2Bad&utm_campaign=blade%2Bcontest

B; Lois and Clark DVD on sale on the Marvel Website. What? http://marvel.com/

C; Is A; SS 3 out yet?

[Pained Auron]

civil war #2 this week. can't wait

[soup or man]

Super skrull is really good, if only the insides looked like the covers. Altho the art work doesn't bother me, its still good imo. As far as the book, Man its really nice. Who knew SuperSkrull was such a monster...Anyway if anyone had to get one Annihilation book.... Super skrull should be that book.

I agree. Super Skrull is definitely the best of the Annihilation books. Ronan bores me, Surfer actually picked up with the last issue. He looks like he's finally entered beast mode and left the nihilist act behind thanks to big G. Nova's first issue bored me so bad I didn't bother getting the second. If I want to read about space cops I'll read Green Lantern.

[Zephyranthes]

I finally had a chance to read the first DMZ trade that just came out this past week. It's hotness. Brian Wood is the man, and this Vertigo series is looking top tier right now, even by his standards. I think DMZ has potential to end up being even better than Demo or Local. The story is like a more fully realized Channel Zero, but with more action and in color.

This new crop of Vertigo ongoing series is looking mighty, mighty fine. The current stalwarts of course, are 100 Bullets, Fables, and Y. But I also got the Loveless trade (also by Azzarello) and that was pretty dang good. Loveless, DMZ, and American Virgin are all looking great.

[Rugal 3:16]

Of all I've read.. Supernan's "up up and away" story arc beats out whatever's out there (that isn't named Civil war and 52) Batman's Face to Face arc doesn't even come close.

Ultimate Fantastic Four comes a very very close second.

I was right about who the new WW was though..

Can't wait for DC showcase presents: Superman Volume 2 (AKA essential Superman volume 2) this wed as well as Flash #1

[ChairHome]

Somewhat of a WW spoiler

But she was only WW really for that issue so far, I'm almost positive she will not be it. Kind of a fake out.

[archetype]

I don't remember the last time I was in a comic store :(

[The Green Trench Coat]

Have any of you guys checked out www.uncannyxmen.net and do you know if there is a site like that for justice league?

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Have any of you guys checked out www.uncannyxmen.net and do you know if there is a site like that for justice league?

I got there randomly, never seen anything or heard of anything like that for JLA tho.

[Geese Pants]

Somewhat of a WW spoiler

But she was only WW really for that issue so far, I'm almost positive she will not be it. Kind of a fake out.

According to the writer, Allan Heinberg......................he said that Donna will be WW in his run on the book.

I'm interested to know how that happened. In the cover she looked as buff as Diana.

[Bob the Bastard]

Have any of you guys checked out www.uncannyxmen.net and do you know if there is a site like that for justice league?

Wow! Haven't seen you post FOREVER!!!


CAn anyone tell me what is happening in DC? I haven't followed this newest crisis storyline beyond JLA base on moon getting blown up and WW killing Checkmate and JLA disbanding....

[Sheng-Long]

Wikipedia is pretty good (and updated regularly) for keeping up with comic book stuff too.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Daughters of the Dragon is the suprise mini series of the year so far for me. Really good stuff...Good to see alot of the C to F list villains running around. And the artwork is great....They really should make this a ongoing series.


Also i can see a movie in the works if its getting any kind of buzz.

[P. Gorath]

civil war #2 spoiler at newsarama

[FreddyL0c0]

civil war 2 was alright, until the last 4 pages. Pretty shocking actually

[bfnh]

in regards to the spoiler at newsarama -- stupidest shit ever.

[Sano]

Civil War 2 was great! Spoiler, highlight to view -


Spider-Man reveals his identity to the world!!! JJJ watching the press conference in his office falls out of his chair after learning Pete is Spider-Man! SCREW IT! Now I'm down with Iron Man's team! Don't hate me Captain America fans, Spider-Man's my favorite Super Hero and the reason I got into comics in the first place. Everyone knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man!!! He unmasked himself to the world!!! Sorry, I'm having a serious nerd moment here! ^_^

[DA GAME]

According to the writer, Allan Heinberg......................he said that Donna will be WW in his run on the book.

I'm interested to know how that happened. In the cover she looked as buff as Diana.
DA GAME tried to find that issue this past Monday & the comic book store sold out of it.Heard it was pretty good.DG picked up Captain America #18 also.DA GAME sees why everyone likes Brubaker's writing.TOP NOTCH!!!

[Geese Pants]

Concerning the CW spoiler.....................WTF? I lost a lot of respect for that move.

I'll wait for the Trade HC when it comes out.........

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Concerning the CW spoiler.....................WTF? I lost a lot of respect for that move.

I'll wait for the Trade HC when it comes out.........

Wait i haven't read any of the spoilers, im try and pick my copy up today but it can't be tha bad......


At least i hope not...

[Zephyranthes]

Damn it. Anytime someone says "highlight to view spoiler" I always highlight the damn text. I need to just stay away from this thread on Wednesdays. At least now that I know what happens I won't have to buy the issue today. I just saved four bucks this week. Plus I just saved a buncha money by switching to Geico!!! I'll just buy the trade.

[P. Gorath]

in other news, there was a good interview with Matt Wagner at cbr where he talked about the new batman mini (btw the monster men trade will be out in august) and we got to hear more about the Grendel 2007 plans which thank god he mentions that "books that were never collected as trades will be collected..." !!! awesome.

batman and the mad monk sounds good too.

im still waiting for a bunch of trades to come in the mail, and still wondering when the hell marvel is going to solicit for the 7th ultimate spiderman hardcover

[The Damned]

Whoa. It's been quite a while since I actually posted anything about comics I read--that Watchmen post doesn't count because I never went into detail like I wanted.

Anyway, last Wednesday, I bought quite a bit, just to see how out the loop I was:


The Incredible Hulk #92
The Incredible Hulk #94
The Incredible Hulk #95
Spider-man Loves Mary Jane #2
X-Factor #7
Exiles #81
Uncanny X-Men #471
New X-Men #27
Some random Marvel Tales thing with "The Amazing Spider-Man", "Runaways #6", and a brief part of what I would assume is "House of M" #3.


And, whoa, I'm freaking behind.

In order, these are just some thoughts, but mostly things that need clarification:

Planet Hulk: It is...interesting. It's not bad, but maybe I let myself get overhyped. It doesn't help that was never much a Hulk fan and still need to buy #93. Anyway, there's two things that confuse me: Why is this Hulk so articulate? This version doesn't seem like "Banner Hulk", so does that mean that baseline Green Hulk has gotten smarter over the years?

Similarly, how long can Banner stay The Hulk? It doesn't seem like he's changed back over the course of four issues (and probably even more depending on what issue the Illumanti betrayed him), and like I said, I've never been much into The Hulk to think about this.

As for "Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane": it was (indirectly) suggested by Micheal T. and Brian Clevinger. I quite liked this one, even though I'm similarly not into Spider-man that much. Still, like "Mookie" said: It be impossible to tell that Peter Parker was Spider-man, at least from Mary Jane's POV. So she had an excuse...unlike Lois's dumbass.

X-Factor-wise: I like Madrox. A lot. More than I perhaps should for never having read a comic with him in it. Reminds me that I want to get the trade of his mini-series. Anyway, despite all the apparent flack that she gets for being the key reason for the fall of the "House of M" (or maybe it's more precise to say that she gets a lot of flack because of her powers AND the fact that she originated in an arc/a series that many people don't like), I'm content to see where they're going with Layla Miller.

At the very least, it doesn't seem as egregiously bad as the other X-Men arcs I remember leaving off, like that "Holy War" arc...or basically anything that had to do with Nightcrawler being (overly) religious.

Anyway, my question pertaining to this issue is in what comic and issue did Banshee apparently die?

Also, it's nice to see that M is finally getting use.

Exiles: Whoa. They killed you know who? That's...kind of bad.

And they're potentially killing another popular character? Hmmm.... I normally don't frown upon this, but maybe it's because of the way that I learned about it.

Anyway, I have to ask something: If the Proteus that is troubling the Exiles is from 616, then was he resurrected by Wanda's dumbass in the House of M? It seems rather stupid considering that how powerful Proteus is, but then again, I don't think there's any other way for it to have happened. Or am I incorrect in thinking that 616 Proteus was dead at one point?

Uncanny X-Men: Still rather crappy. Better than where I left off, and definitely better than "X-Treme X-Men", but that's not saying much. This reminds me...what happened to Vargas?

New X-Men: Damn. They killed a TON of people here. I had to read seven summaries at uncannyxmen.net just to find out all that happened. Fucking Stryker. Actually made me hate his ass, which is "good" considering I last saw him in the horrid "God Loves, Man Kills II" arc in X-Treme X-Men where Kitty's natural state was intangible (which makes no goddamned sense). Makes me hate Wanda too for fucking with too many people's powers. What the hell happened to Wanda?

Also, who are and where are other of 198 Mutants that supposed to be staying with the X-Men? They certainly could have used some help.

This reminds me, with so many people getting killed off, how many mutants are actually left now?

Marvel Tales: Really nice Spider-Man issue. Otherwise, it reminded me that I have the first six issues of the first Runaway series in trade form.


I'm unsure whether or not I feel like attempting to go Isotope today or whether I'll just go to where I went last Wendesday.

[Sano]

As for "Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane": it was (indirectly) suggested by Micheal T. and Brian Clevinger. I quite liked this one, even though I'm similarly not into Spider-man that much. Still, like "Mookie" said: It be impossible to tell that Peter Parker was Spider-man, at least from Mary Jane's POV. So she had an excuse...unlike Lois's dumbass.



Wow, someone reads this besides me? Yes all of the Mary Jane books have been great, I love the art work and the story. It has a nice shojo manga feel to it like Peach Girl or His and Her Circumstances without being too much like shojo manga so boys/men won't get bored out of their skulls reading it. The character's relationships and interactions between Liz, MJ, Harry, Flash and Peter are also great. Plus no Gwen Stacy. :tup:

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Planet Hulk: It is...interesting. It's not bad, but maybe I let myself get overhyped. It doesn't help that was never much a Hulk fan and still need to buy #93. Anyway, there's two things that confuse me: Why is this Hulk so articulate? This version doesn't seem like "Banner Hulk", so does that mean that baseline Green Hulk has gotten smarter over the years?

Similarly, how long can Banner stay The Hulk? It doesn't seem like he's changed back over the course of four issues (and probably even more depending on what issue the Illumanti betrayed him), and like I said, I've never been much into The Hulk to think about this.


X-Factor-wise: I like Madrox. A lot. More than I perhaps should for never having read a comic with him in it. Reminds me that I want to get the trade of his mini-series. Anyway, despite all the apparent flack that she gets for being the key reason for the fall of the "House of M" (or maybe it's more precise to say that she gets a lot of flack because of her powers AND the fact that she originated in an arc/a series that many people don't like), I'm content to see where they're going with Layla Miller.

At the very least, it doesn't seem as egregiously bad as the other X-Men arcs I remember leaving off, like that "Holy War" arc...or basically anything that had to do with Nightcrawler being (overly) religious.

Anyway, my question pertaining to this issue is in what comic and issue did Banshee apparently die?

Also, it's nice to see that M is finally getting use.

Exiles: Whoa. They killed you know who? That's...kind of bad.

And they're potentially killing another popular character? Hmmm.... I normally don't frown upon this, but maybe it's because of the way that I learned about it.

Anyway, I have to ask something: If the Proteus that is troubling the Exiles is from 616, then was he resurrected by Wanda's dumbass in the House of M? It seems rather stupid considering that how powerful Proteus is, but then again, I don't think there's any other way for it to have happened. Or am I incorrect in thinking that 616 Proteus was dead at one point?

Uncanny X-Men: Still rather crappy. Better than where I left off, and definitely better than "X-Treme X-Men", but that's not saying much. This reminds me...what happened to Vargas?

New X-Men: Damn. They killed a TON of people here. I had to read seven summaries at uncannyxmen.net just to find out all that happened. Fucking Stryker. Actually made me hate his ass, which is "good" considering I last saw him in the horrid "God Loves, Man Kills II" arc in X-Treme X-Men where Kitty's natural state was intangible (which makes no goddamned sense). Makes me hate Wanda too for fucking with too many people's powers. What the hell happened to Wanda?

Also, who are and where are other of 198 Mutants that supposed to be staying with the X-Men? They certainly could have used some help.

This reminds me, with so many people getting killed off, how many mutants are actually left now?



I'm unsure whether or not I feel like attempting to go Isotope today or whether I'll just go to where I went last Wendesday.

I feel the very same on just about all that....


Spoiler concerning banshee




banshee "died" in Deadly Gensis..."Which was a good read btw"

[The Damned]

Wow, someone reads this besides me? Yes all of the Mary Jane books have been great, I love the art work and the story. It has a nice shojo manga feel to it like Peach Girl or His and Her Circumstances without being too much like shojo manga so boys/men won't get bored out of their skulls reading it. The character's relationships and interactions between Liz, MJ, Harry, Flash and Peter are also great. Plus no Gwen Stacy. :tup:

Apparently so. I don't know about all "Mary Jane books" though...

Although, now that you mention it, I do remember being surprised that they were only #2. I have to ask then, how many Mary Jane books were there?

I feel the very same on just about all that....

Spoiler concerning banshee

Ah, thanks. "Deadly Genesis"? Hmm...I remember sano mentioning something about that. Isn't there were the third Summers brother was revealed not to be Gambit or Adam-X?

Anyway, thanks again. However, can you please try not to quote the whole post next time? It just annoys me when responses are so much shorter than what's being replied to, especially if it's one the same page (at least, I think it's one the same page as this response; I seem to be the only person using 40 posts per page).

[Zephyranthes]

The Damned, you go to the Isotope? That's where I go, too. I didn't go today 'cause there was nothing new that I wanted to get, though. (I think the She-Hulk trade came out, but I can wait on that one for now.)

Brubaker's Deadly Genesis revealed the Third Summers brother, but (thankfully) it isn't Gambit or Adam-X, The XTREME! (Haha, I remember the X-Force comic where Adam-X and Shatterstar faced off against Arcade and his dangerous deathtraps of doom. Speaking of Arcade, he is quite a crappy character. He needs to be killed off, completely forgotten, or seriously revamped for the modern age.)

I read some of the Mary Jane books, and I really dig them, too. sano has good taste. I was always just too embarrassed to mention them. I don't know why. Takeshi Miyazaki's artwork is just... Wow. Really nice. And pretty much all of Sean McKeever's Marvel comics have been the epitome of great clean fun. Gravity, Sentinel, Inhumans... I'm still waiting for Marvel to reprint the second half of his Inhumans series. But I doubt they ever will. Sucks.

I used to like New X-Men when the writers were DeFillipis and Weir. The story's taken a serious downturn since those X-23 writers took over, and it hasn't been interesting since. I like the art but the story's just your average run of the mill (teen) superhero comic with nothing really that sets it apart, other than the fact that it's got X-Men in the title.

[Adam Warlock]

You know, between Cassandra Nova, Onslaught, and Deadly Genesis... professor X is a pretty unscrupulous fucker.

[The Damned]

The Damned, you go to the Isotope? That's where I go, too. I didn't go today 'cause there was nothing new that I wanted to get, though. (I think the She-Hulk trade came out, but I can wait on that one for now.)

I don't really go to Isotope, at least not on a regular basis. I haven't been there for at least a year idea, especially since I don't have a blast MUNI pass anymore. I think I've been there about five or so times; no more than ten though.

As for you going, yeah, I know. You're the one that suggested to me, if only indirectly...though you apparently don't remember doing so. Maybe it was the guy that was "down the hall" from you at SFSU. I haven't seen post in a while, but then again I haven't really being paying attention to this thread until I came back from college last month.

How's [insert name] here doing?

Brubaker's Deadly Genesis revealed the Third Summers brother, but (thankfully) it isn't Gambit or Adam-X, The XTREME! (Haha, I remember the X-Force comic where Adam-X and Shatterstar faced off against Arcade and his dangerous deathtraps of doom. Speaking of Arcade, he is quite a crappy character. He needs to be killed off, completely forgotten, or seriously revamped for the modern age.)

Arcade...? Has he been used recently? Or was that Viper using some horrible "Pinball of Doom!!" in Uncanny X-Men a year ago that I'm remembering? :rolleyes:

I read some of the Mary Jane books, and I really dig them, too. sano has good taste. I was always just too embarrassed to mention them. I don't know why. Takeshi Miyazaki's artwork is just... Wow. Really nice. And pretty much all of Sean McKeever's Marvel comics have been the epitome of great clean fun. Gravity, Sentinel, Inhumans... I'm still waiting for Marvel to reprint the second half of his Inhumans series. But I doubt they ever will. Sucks.

I don't see why people should be embarassed about good work, though I admittedly also thought it was girly before I gave it a try. It may be first one, but I'll gladly buy more.

I used to like New X-Men when the writers were DeFillipis and Weir. The story's taken a serious downturn since those X-23 writers took over, and it hasn't been interesting since. I like the art but the story's just your average run of the mill (teen) superhero comic with nothing really that sets it apart, other than the fact that it's got X-Men in the title.

How long ago did they leave? I'm really bad at not paying attention to names.

You know, between Cassandra Nova, Onslaught, and Deadly Genesis... professor X is a pretty unscrupulous fucker.

Haha. That's not even counting the crap that he did to the Danger Room, which resulted in Danger at least killing one person and almost killing Piotr (again) and Kitty and then what remained of Genosha.

Isn't he also part of the Illumanti that betrayed Hulk?

God, he's such a bastard now that I think about it. "Jerk" is too light for some of the things that he's done, despite all the good (and the fact this death would apparently have led to the AoA).

Astonishing EDIT: Which reminds me, is Astonishing X-Men still on hiatus or whatever?

[Sano]

Apparently so. I don't know about all "Mary Jane books" though...

Although, now that you mention it, I do remember being surprised that they were only #2. I have to ask then, how many Mary Jane books were there?





It's kind of like a monthly book that takes breaks. Every month or close to it there's a new limited series on the racks, each one lasts about 4 to 5 issues, it's been going on for about 2-3 years, I couldn't tell you how many have come out off the top of my head. It's always called "Mary Jane ____" or "____ Mary Jane, something close to that. Same creative team for every book though. It was cool in the beginning, Peter Parker didn't play a big role in the series until fairly recently, he was that guy in the background, but Spider-Man was always around and even he has taken the backseat to MJs friends and relationships. That's what's cool about it, they don't feel the need to focus on Spider-Man all of the time.

[Zephyranthes]

The Damned, now that you mention it, I think I do remember telling you about Isotope a long while ago. About a year ago they moved to a new location, over on Fell Street, and I'm not sure if you've been there. It's pretty close to Civic Center, which is on the opposite side of the city from where I live, so even when I drive there it takes a good 25 minutes or so... Not a completely inconvenient trip for me, but it's long enough that I don't feel like going there by myself if there's nothing I plan to buy.

In my world, every single X-Men and X-Men related comic would open up with a one page splash of a character pointing at the reader and yelling, "Professor Xavier is a JERK!!!" Kind of like that legendary Paul Smith drawing of Kitty Pryde back in the day (which was paid homage in Astonishing #1). Except every month would have a different character, so we'd have Cyclops, Logan, Beast, Bishop, Cannonball, Strong Guy, Dust, Lockheed, etc. Just go down the line. Eventually they'd have to run out of people and we'd get to see Xavier looking in a mirror, pointing at himself angrily and calling himself a jerk. Peter Milligan could do another X-Statix story and we would even see Doop get in on the fun.

Anyway. That's what I would do, if I had the Infinity Gauntlet.

[The Damned]

The Damned, now that you mention it, I think I do remember telling you about Isotope a long while ago. About a year ago they moved to a new location, over on Fell Street, and I'm not sure if you've been there. It's pretty close to Civic Center, which is on the opposite side of the city from where I live, so even when I drive there it takes a good 25 minutes or so... Not a completely inconvenient trip for me, but it's long enough that I don't feel like going there by myself if there's nothing I plan to buy.

Well, that's new. And no, I haven't been there. That's actually much easier for me to get to now, as I don't have to waste Muni on the N or attempt to do what I had suicidally planned to do one day: Walk to the old location all the way from the 1st and Mission.

Now, I have something to do today. Heh.

In my world, every single X-Men and X-Men related comic would open up with a one page splash of a character pointing at the reader and yelling, "Professor Xavier is a JERK!!!" Kind of like that legendary Paul Smith drawing of Kitty Pryde back in the day (which was paid homage in Astonishing #1). Except every month would have a different character, so we'd have Cyclops, Logan, Beast, Bishop, Cannonball, Strong Guy, Dust, Lockheed, etc. Just go down the line. Eventually they'd have to run out of people and we'd get to see Xavier looking in a mirror, pointing at himself angrily and calling himself a jerk. Peter Milligan could do another X-Statix story and we would even see Doop get in on the fun.

Anyway. That's what I would do, if I had the Infinity Gauntlet.

Haha.

Your mentioning of X-Statix reminds me of two things: How enjoyable was the Dead Girl series? I was going to buy the whole thing last Wednesday, but that shop was missing the first issue and had all the others one. :annoy:

My second question is: Does anyone even know that X-Statix is dead? Or did they know before/if it was cleared up in "Dead Girl"? They even find out who killed them all in that issue?

[Pained Auron]

Civil War 2 was great! Spoiler, highlight to view -


Spider-Man reveals his identity to the world!!! JJJ watching the press conference in his office falls out of his chair after learning Pete is Spider-Man! SCREW IT! Now I'm down with Iron Man's team! Don't hate me Captain America fans, Spider-Man's my favorite Super Hero and the reason I got into comics in the first place. Everyone knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man!!! He unmasked himself to the world!!! Sorry, I'm having a serious nerd moment here! ^_^



captain america is gonna take spiderman to school. hell he's gonna beat him so bad that spiderman will switch sides and join the resistance movement. mark my words

[P. Gorath]

haha...now the spoiler is on the frontpage of yahoo too fyi

[RockBogart]

All i gotta say is Spider-Man is a bitch ass nigga. And Reed Richards should be shot. I dont like how they throw around the "ameteur" and "lack skill". Wolverine's got more experience,training, and time put in under his belt then almost every body. And a lot of other characters fit that bill as well. The use of those words and others like them have been used to much in this series. They are trying to make these heroes look like recklass criminals and doing a poor job of it. Its like the heroes on the govt side have forgotten what they and their friends have gone through together and it seems out of place.

[RockBogart]

All i gotta say is Spider-Man is a bitch ass nigga. And Reed Richards should be shot. I dont like how they throw around the "ameteur" and "lack skill". Wolverine's got more experience,training, and time put in under his belt then almost every body. And a lot of other characters fit that bill as well. The use of those words and others like them have been used to much in this series. They are trying to make these heroes look like recklass criminals and doing a poor job of it. Its like the heroes on the govt side have forgotten what they and their friends have gone through together and it seems out of place.

[box]

Wow. I just read civil war 2 and I am blown away.

I didn't actually think that spidey would do what he did... but ... wow. I'm speechless.

[Sano]

Lol, I don't even care if Spidey is insulted, yall just go side with Cap. It's all good, I love Captain America and we all got a pick a side and what not, that's what the series is supposed to be about unlike the begining where we all sided with Cap. I'd never thought I'd be down with Iron Man but after what Spidey did and the ramifications it will have on all the Spidey comics I buy, it's gonna be hella fun for me to see how everyone deals with it. His first conversation with JJJ is gonna be priceless. I only wish that Flash didn't lose his memory and reverted back to High School Flash because it would of been much better to see Flash as Peter's best friend deal with this. Course it depends on what the writers do with it.

There's a brief follow up to what happened in Civil War 2 in Thunderbolts. And I don't even read Thunderbolts! Man if they put Civil War on the cover off Muppet Babies I think I'll buy it at this point. :tup:

Damned - X-Statix is still dead even after the Dead Girl Limited series. Dead Girl is well, she always was kind of dead anyway. Really funny read btw, worth getting! Anarchist's new romance in Hell steals the show!

[Zephyranthes]

Yeah, it's a smart move to have Spidey side with Iron Man. Even just on a superficial level, it looks nicer when both sides of heroes have some marquee names for readers, and Spider-Man's name is probably the biggest of all. If it were Cap/Wolverine/Spider-Man vs. Iron Man/Mr. Fantastic/Hank Pym, I doubt many readers would want to side with Iron Man. Putting Spidey on Iron Man's side makes a whole lot of sense. It helps that the recent issue of Amazing helped put a lot of Peter's motivation into perspective, too.

Of course, 'cause I didn't go to the store today, I didn't actually read Civil War #2. But judging from everyone's reaction, I can only assume it's a sexy piece of work.

And the Dead Girl mini was money. It's worth getting for sure. I'm hoping there will