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Yo, sano, does Justice League Heroes have Xbox Live support? I played it for a couple minutes last weekend at a Gamespot party. It seemed fun, in a sort of mindless, X-Men: Legends sort of way.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't, I didn't see an Xbox Live option in the menu... I can double check when I get home.
The book it comes with has voice actor credits so we know of some other JLAers in it. All 3 Green Lanterns, (:wow:) Hawkgirl, Supergirl (voiced by Tara Strong of Teen Titans fame - Raven's voice!!!) and Green Arrow are in it, the ones I can remember. Braniac and Darkseid are the badies. But there's a blurb where they credit actors for additional characters so their might be more JLAers in there.
Most of the voices are not the same as those from the WB cartoons, but they are really good. Batman's seems to really fit.
Ha ha Batman has Guile's sommersault!
Speaking of Ms. Marvel in the letters column of that issue they confirmed that she will be in Marvel Ultimate Alliance. She hasn't been shown on the MUA website yet, but there are still about freaking 60 characters they have not revealed yet on the site, some of them will most likely be unplayable villains though. That game is going to be crazy... shoot they got Blackheart in it and he looks the same way he does in the Capcom games! He's prolly not playable though.
This week I got the second volume of the Spawn TPB that came out a while ago, I'm reading Spawn until I get to see every character that appeared in the Dreamcast game, heh heh! Then I got Wolverine Civil War, X-Men Civil War, Ms. Marvel Civil War, 52, the Rurouni Kenshin Novel Voyage to the Moon World and Wildcats.
Wolverine Civil War was great, we got the Sentry vs. Wolverine fight! Even if it was a little brief, but it was brief because he is uber powered Sentry and all...
The rest of the books were all good, quicky note about X-Men Civil War - Beast tells Cyclops in that comic, "If you had a subconscious block, it was for a reason." regarding his powers. This may be a reference to Joss Whedon's story in Astonishing X-Men which would make it take place before the events of Civil War. Since we were talking about when his current story takes place some time ago.
Someone else just lost the 52 pool. Give me a second and I'll update...
52 POO!
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Wellman - Week 24 - That's right not even the spirit of Jack Baur from the mighty number 24 could not get you a signed X-Force #1 by the great Mr. Leifeld! Don't worry, he did this week's cover of Cable and Deadpool and Onslaught Returns is by Leifeld and Loeb is coming, it's not too late to own some of Leifeld's amazing artwork! :rofl:
REMAINING
The Damned - Week 26
Taichi - Week 27
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Deathscythe - Week 45
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Sheng-Long - Week 51
Adam Warlock - Week 52
Zephyranthes
10-19-2006, 10:16 AM
This week I got the second volume of the Spawn TPB that came out a while ago, I'm reading Spawn until I get to see every character that appeared in the Dreamcast game, heh heh!
To quote Captain Marvel, "Holy moly."
Sometimes I can't tell if you're serious or joking.
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I flipped through the new Authority. Man, that comic looks amazing. Gene Ha can motherfuckin' draw.
Wildcats was really good, too. I think Morrison and Joe Casey did drugs together, so Morrison's first issue totally plays off on what Casey had built up in Version 3.0. I thought Jim Lee said he was trying out a new style for Wildcats. It looked the same to me. Unless he was talking about the technicolor sex scene between a superpowered stripper and humanoid vibrator.
To quote Captain Marvel, "Holy moly."
Sometimes I can't tell if you're serious or joking.
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Seriously joking I guess, but I did get the second TPB. It's due more to Capcom fandom since they made that Spawn game for the Dreamcast and I still don't know who the hell are 90% of the characters than anything else though. Not a big fan of McFarlane's writing, but in the second TPB at least some other writers jump into the fray, freaking Grant Morrison is in there! :smile:
In Pained Auron's defense I did read Fables last week for 25 cents. Didn't care for it that much honestly, things like Prince Charming sleeping around sort of upset me almost to the point of becoming physical ill believe it or not... I hate seeing childhood characters, like that... perhaps it's due to me reading loads of Disney comics and things like that... maybe I'm just too imature to get over stuff like that. Overall mostly into super heroes and stuff is all as you probably tell by now...
Nothing against the book or anything since I don't know enough about the book to pass judgement on it, I just know that it's not for me is all. Different Strokes different folks...
Course me saying the comic almost physically ill is prolly the best Fables propoganda I can jot down here... :rofl:
EDIT: Regarding Wildcats - As someone who doesn't know that much about them I was glad that it was easy to read and not very convoluted. I was fine with whatever information I got from watching the cartoon for the most part.
RoninChaos
10-19-2006, 05:59 PM
Holy mother fuckin' shit, holy MOTHER FUCKING SHIT.
I finally made it back to the comic shop and I"m in the slow process of clearing out my pull box. I went in today and got ultimate spider-man 95-100, the last 6 issues or so of ultimate x-men, ultimates 12, the end to ultimate galactus or whatever it is, and a couple other things. I haven't read anything else but the USM's and jesus fucking christ, I feel like they're episodes of 24.
I'm totally in awe of the clone story arc. I wish I hadn't missed out on the comics of the last few months, but I'm trying to get it together and catch up. Jesus.
I'm going to go read Ultimate X-men now. Later
Zephyranthes
10-19-2006, 08:12 PM
In Pained Auron's defense I did read Fables last week for 25 cents. Didn't care for it that much honestly, things like Prince Charming sleeping around sort of upset me almost to the point of becoming physical ill believe it or not... I hate seeing childhood characters, like that... perhaps it's due to me reading loads of Disney comics and things like that... maybe I'm just too imature to get over stuff like that. Overall mostly into super heroes and stuff is all as you probably tell by now...
Nothing against the book or anything since I don't know enough about the book to pass judgement on it, I just know that it's not for me is all. Different Strokes different folks...
Course me saying the comic almost physically ill is prolly the best Fables propoganda I can jot down here... :rofl:
The word is spelled "judgment." Unless you're British, I guess. I don't think you are.
At this time, that's my only response to your blatant and unbridled hostility against the single greatest human achievement of the past 300 years.
Pained Auron
10-19-2006, 09:04 PM
The word is spelled "judgment." Unless you're British, I guess. I don't think you are.
At this time, that's my only response to your blatant and unbridled hostility against the single greatest human achievement of the past 300 years.
if bru didnt wirte it, then it's mid tier. at best
Blatant and unbridled hostility? There was none of that in my post. I didn't say the artwork sucks, writing sucks or anything like that which of course isn't true. It's just not for me and that is all I'm saying. Agree to disagree or something?
EDIT: Okay I get that what you said and you were joking and I'm a royal jerk for not getting it... sorry... Anyway my 2 cents on 25 cents Fables, and all I'm really saying it isn't for me is all. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Zephyranthes and his opinions on this thread. That goes for others who like Fables and have spoken highly of it, I can't stress how much. Anywho...
Just in my experience stuff along the lines of what I said saying something is 'just plain wrong' tend to increase sales, like Hilary Clinton bashing GTA. And now it's only 25 cents, so pretty much anyone who hasn't read Fables can check it out and decide if it is for them or not. If it wasn't a quarter I probably would of never even tried it. I'm one of those people who doesn't read too much non mainstream super hero stuff to begin with honestly.
I had lots of friends who used to tell me, "Oh Preacher is the greatest comic ever created by human hands in since the begining of time itself!" and I just didn't care about it ever, give me some Marvel and DC heroes in tights saving the world or something, 'no hormone.' :rofl:
I mean, Fables got past what 50 issues or something and the majority of this thread loves the comic so my little opinion doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
And yes, the image shown of Prince Charming banging a random broad with her legs up in the air screaming, "oh yes Prince Charming yes!" or what have you does physically upset me and even just thinking about it still makes me cringe. There's nothing I can do about that other than switching my DNA or getting rid of my Catholic upgringing (even though I don't go to Church anymore and am not hard core religous really). I'm not 100% prude or anything, on the manga end Golgo 13's exploits are much more graphic and I have no problem with it. But he's Golgo 13, not Prince Charming. To me PC in action was like seeing Minnie Mouse give Donald Duck a Blow Job... and I don't even want to know what the hell was up with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs... If it has the reverse effect of convincing people "This is not your momma's Fairy Tales" then mission accomplished. You have to admit that on some level something like that isn't for everybody. (Man, this entire paragraph just screams a Hilary Clintonish rant, prolly get more people to spend their hard earned quarters in the long run. :rofl:)
Though I suppose if you grew up reading as many Disney comics as I have (and still do, but I don't get to talk about it too much here because I know no one else cares ha ha! But I did get to go hardcore on Disney comics in the Huey/Dewie/Louie thread a while back... :smile:) you might have issues with how Fables is written. The Big Bad Wolf, the Three Little Pigs, the Seven Dwarfs, the cast of Bambi, Brer Bear, Grandma Duck, Gus Goose, etc - all lived in the same forest and everything was all good, that's kind of what Fairy Tales mean to me in comic book land....
But yeah as a re-interpretation of old stories and what not, I'll take League of Extraordinary Gentleman over Fables, but that's just me and based on only reading one Fables issue to begin with.
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Anyway....
Justice League Heroes for Xbox is not playable online. And oh yeah, Ron Perlman, the voice of Slade in Teen Titans and the actor who played Hellboy is the voice of Batman in that game, no wonder why I was digging it! :rock:
ViciousSLASH
10-20-2006, 01:09 PM
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Jesus man.
You read ONE issue.
ONE !
Read at least a story arc or two before you declaire your dislike for it.
I can't understand how people can get excited over Infinity Crisis ( I'm not talking about you Sano ) where fucking NOTHING happens and not want to read new cool stuff like Fables, Invincible, or The Walking Dead.
There is all sorts of new good stuff out and people just want to sit there and wack off to batman and superman all day.
Geoff John's run on Flash still hasn't gotten it's due from the mainstream comic nerdbase. And he's busy doing the same thing to Green Lanturn and I don't think anyone cares.
The comic book industry is retarded.
:rofl: Yeah, I did read one issue...
Hey, if comics didn't cost so much damn money I could buy every freaking thing out there but alas, I can't. So sometimes I just have to decide if I'm going to continue buying something on one issue to free up space for other things... it's not like seeing one TV episode and saying "I didn't like it but I'll try watching it again." You have to give up cold hard cash. So something has to rope me in quick most of the time. And not well... make me cringe... I suppose I can bit torrent it and pay nothing but... it just really made me ill... I can't stress that part enough... granted this is more of a... shall we call it a 'character flaw' on my part than anything done by the comic's creative team. The artwork is really good, the colors and backgrounds are amazing and it's written very well and has a great use of dialog. What can I say, Disney done messed me up for life... :lol:
As far as I can tell the comic is something that goes against pre-concieved notions of these characters. If the reader himself can't get over that part it's kind of tough to get over everything else. I'm really sure I'm part of a microscopic percentage who gives a damn on how Snow White should be portrayed really...
I remember when Milligan started writing X-Force, later renamed X-Statix. I loved it from the start. My best friend was like, "What the hell is this? They are not acting like heroes? They are all in it for the money? And they all got killed in the first issue because they suck? WORST COMIC EVER!" But yeah when stuff goes against your pre-concieved notions it's really tough for people to look over stuff and get into it. I didn't really bug my friend for staying clear of X-Force/X-Statix, just kind of got that it wasn't the comic for him. Mind you he reads about 90% Dark Horse, 5% percent Marvel and 5% DC but it still went against what he thought a team of heroes should be like. Well, if he stuck with it, the series really didn't change too much from the first issue, they never really became good guys and they all died in the last issue, he prolly made a wise decision there in the long run...
P. Gorath
10-20-2006, 01:39 PM
infinite crisis > walking dead
Pained Auron
10-20-2006, 07:47 PM
infinite crisis > walking dead
burn in hell
Yasashiyama
10-20-2006, 08:15 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.628
Sorry if this was posted before but DAMN. Joss Whedon with Runaways combo = Greatness! Now I can read Runaways with a weird zombie infestation/vampire twist! :lovin: :looney: :lovin:
ViciousSLASH
10-20-2006, 10:30 PM
I remember when Milligan started writing X-Force, later renamed X-Statix.
X-Statix is EXTRA underrated.
I remember in the old comic thread I was like the only person reading it.
Dead Girl and The Orphan were teh pwn.
If you all haven't read that run, you really should get on dat ish.
I have most of it in issue form. ( I used to get it in the mail ) It's just great when an artist and a writer click together for a huge run of great comics.
That just doesn't happen all that much anymore.
I miss Scott Kolins. :(
Wellman
10-20-2006, 11:24 PM
I still have the last issue of X-Force before the name change, was the first comic I bought in years. Great series, Milligan can do no wrong in my eyes because of X-Force/Statix. He can put out crap, but he can do no wrong.
52 POO!
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Wellman - Week 24 - That's right not even the spirit of Jack Baur from the mighty number 24 could not get you a signed X-Force #1 by the great Mr. Leifeld! Don't worry, he did this week's cover of Cable and Deadpool and Onslaught Returns is by Leifeld and Loeb is coming, it's not too late to own some of Leifeld's amazing artwork! :rofl:
MacBauer blast it to terrorist hell. Even after losing their top guy, ironically named Wacker, they still did have a major screw up. I blame Giffen.
RoninChaos
10-22-2006, 11:01 PM
I've been catching the Civil War tie ins and some of this is pretty compelling stuff, in my mind anyway.
(spoilers!)
Seeing Sue leave Reed was deep as fuck. Very interesting stuff.
(end spoilers)
Pained Auron
10-22-2006, 11:06 PM
read runaways whitey
Civil War Choosing Sides comes out this week and it will answer the question on all of our minds since Civil War started. You know, the question that's been keeping all of us up late at night trying to figure out the answer. At long last we can put aside the endless debates as all will be revealed - We finally learn if Howard the Duck is Anti-Reg or Pro-Reg!
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=87416
:rofl:
Other stuff - Richard Donner's cut of Superman II is coming out in November with some unseeen footage. He didn't get to actually finish the movie himself back then.
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/superman5.html
Teen Titans Year One will be written by Amy Wolfram, story editor of the Teen Titans cartoon! Some info -
http://boards3.warnerbros.com/wbol/thread.jspa?threadID=2000071965&tstart=0
Quicky reminder - Teen Titans Go! the comic based on the cartoon comes out this week with Wonder Girl who they couldn't use on the cartoon due to legal issues. They did show her face in the cartoon during the last few episodes where they showed a bunch of TT heroes.
Carpet Lint
10-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Hold your slanderous tongues, infidels. If you have not accepted FAAABLES!!!!!!1111111 as your comic book saviour, to deliver you from the Ultimate Evil Crisis, then you will burn. To suggest otherwise is to affront man and Willingham above.
Furthermore, to not read FAAAAABLES!!!1111 is to lie with the devil in his house of sham riches and empty physical relationships, where you will eventually meet eternal punishment at the hands of the Arch Lich Liefeld himself in the ninth plane of hell ruled by the entity once called McFarlene. Time itself will cease to exist, like you were a character in a Bendis miniseries, and you will pray for a release that never comes.
Those of the Chruch of Bru must repent their ways and accept FAAAABLES!!111 into their lives as the one true king of comics. I bet most of you haven't even read Sleeper. How can you profess so much love for your false idol when you haven't even experienced his greatest triumph? And do not even dare speak his name if you haven't picked up Criminal.
Also, FAAAABLES!!!!!1111 is really good.
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1001 NIGHTS OF SNOWFAAAAAAAALLLLL!!!!11111
Who's with me!?! I think my mind exploded from the sheer force of AWESOMENESS that eminated from its pages.
That Flycatcher story was fucked up for reals.
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When is the Supermarket trade coming out? IDW's site says "October" but not a specific date, which is retarded. It's not in the Diamond Shipping lists...I'M FREAKING OUT MAN
Brian Wood and Robert Kirkman are badass motherfuckers.
Kirkman has nothing to do with Supermarket, but I just wanted to mention his name. Because I am always surprised at how good Invincible is. I was reading my trades again over the weekend...and this is a really good book!
It's like Ultimate Spider-Man, but without Spider-Man. AND BETTER.
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Also read Rock Bottom, but didn't get to this thread quickly enough to beat Zephy to it. You're saying Scott Kolins DIDN'T draw this? That is a bold faced lie!
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Wildcats was good old Jim Lee all over again. I don't think he's changed one bit in the last fifteen years.
Which I don't mind, honestly. I love Jim Lee.
I think Authority's going to be awesome, but that first issue moved way too slow for me. And what's the deal with this World Storm thing? You guys just drained the life out of me with Infinite Crisis and you want to hit with with ANOTHER crossover? Wasn't there just a Wildstorm Coup Etat Whatever thing like a couple months back? Goddamn!
And I like The Boys - it's a textbook Garth Ennis "I hate superheroes" book - but that's moving too slowly too. Since when did it take three issues to setup the first plot event?
I blame Bendis, who is also responsible for global warming.
ReggieHadoken
10-23-2006, 04:50 PM
What I read a few weeks ago.
Civil War #4. DAAAAAAAAAANG!!!This book continues to blow me away Those dorks at Spiderfan.org are wrong for only giving book 4 a 3 spider rating (out of 5). So how long before someone resurrects Goliath with a Phoenix Down? And I highly doubt the real Thor is dead. But when he finds out what his clone did, it won't be pretty.
Ultimate Spider-Man #100. Freaking sweet. Totally made up for the suckfest that was USM #99. Carnage is back!! W00t!!
Amazing Spider-Man # 535. Has Tony Stark always been such a manipulative little punk? I mean, I know he's done a lot for Peter and his family, but still. They're holding the captured heroes in THE NEGATIVE ZONE! I couldn't believe it. Peter finally admitted that he choose the wrong side. Can't wait for issues #536. Oh and I hope they get Garney off the book. My all-time fav comic and Garney's artwork is really eh, how should I put it? Well, I just don't like his style at all. PEter looks fine in his suit but when he's out of costume? Ugh.
Picked up Essential X-Men vol. 1. It has Uncanny X-Men #94-119 and Giant Size X-Men #1. Can't wait to get into the Phoenix Saga. Essential X-Men vol. 2 is all about Dark Phoenix!! I'm gonna start buying a ton of Essential Marvel books. I really want to check out Hulk, Daredevil and Fantastic Four.
Pained Auron
10-23-2006, 06:48 PM
i have read sleeper AND i picked up criminal. bru > willingham. plain and simple. that's like saying fables is better than wolverine origin. complete lies
Carpet Lint
10-23-2006, 08:34 PM
You are a hateful man, and your existence perpetually torments me.
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The thing with Amazing Spider-Man's art is strange. I think it's the inking or the colouring - because I've seen raw pencils of Ron Garney's art on that title before and it looks a lot cleaner. Like...the lines are tighter and everything. I think somewhere in the inking it somehow gets really messy - all sloppy like.
I remember Ron Garney drew a couple issues of JLA written by Chuck Austen and Kurt Busiek - same problem there - the inking or the colours made it look really sloppy. Coincidentally, I choose that time to drop the book, after I had followed it for like a hundred issues.
I loved Garney's stuff on Captain America when Mark Waid wrote it, and it wasn't that bad on Uncanny X-Men afterwards. Unfortunately those had some of the worst written stories of all time by Chuck Austen...so no fond memories there.
Gotta be the inking. Mike Deodato's art on that book was ill fitting and looked really sloppy too - but Deodato's art always has that type of look so it wasn't a big deal.
ReggieHadoken
10-23-2006, 10:05 PM
The thing with Amazing Spider-Man's art is strange. I think it's the inking or the colouring - because I've seen raw pencils of Ron Garney's art on that title before and it looks a lot cleaner. Like...the lines are tighter and everything. I think somewhere in the inking it somehow gets really messy - all sloppy like.
I remember Ron Garney drew a couple issues of JLA written by Chuck Austen and Kurt Busiek - same problem there - the inking or the colours made it look really sloppy. Coincidentally, I choose that time to drop the book, after I had followed it for like a hundred issues.
I loved Garney's stuff on Captain America when Mark Waid wrote it, and it wasn't that bad on Uncanny X-Men afterwards. Unfortunately those had some of the worst written stories of all time by Chuck Austen...so no fond memories there.
Gotta be the inking. Mike Deodato's art on that book was ill fitting and looked really sloppy too - but Deodato's art always has that type of look so it wasn't a big deal.
Hmmm, the inking could be the problem. I hadn't given it a whole lot of thought. If Garney has done fine art, then perhaps I was too quick to judge.
I also read the Secret Wars TPB a month or so ago. The first two issues were alright but issue 3 is where things really got kickstarted and it never let up. It was one of the best mini-series that I've ever read. Jim Shooter did a fine job of writing a lot of Marvel's best in that series. Some of my favorite parts of Secret Wars:
*Spidey making the X-Men look like scrubs in issue 3. It was 7-1 and he still owned them.
*Hulk holding up 150 billion tons. Freaking. Sweet.
*Spidey beating the crap out of Titania. She was so much stronger than Spidey but she still never landed a hit on him.
*Doom becoming all powerful only to get screwed at the end.
I also picked up Daredevil vol. 2 issues 2-8. This was Kevin Smith's awesome run on a story arc called Guardian Devil. I read issue one via TBP while I was in my local comic shop. I had no idea Quesada could draw! As of issue 2 in the story arc, I was hooked!! Smith made one of the best stories I've ever read in a comic book and Quesada's artwork went along with the words perfectly. And Bullseye killing Karen Page with DD's own billy club? Dang, that was... well, I'm at a loss for words. Truly excellent stuff. I just may start reading DD now.
Sheng-Long
10-23-2006, 10:13 PM
All the good inkers are at DC.
Son of M and the Annihilation books are perfect examples that Marvel NEEDS a decent inker instead of just making their pencillers ink or hiring losers.
akumatrunigga
10-24-2006, 10:54 AM
Thanks alot for blowing it for me ronin :lol:
I may give Hulk a chance once to they put together all of the Planet hulk comics, but I am uncertain.
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I dont mind the art of ASM at all. I actually like it alot.
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I do agree about the infinite crisis. There were too many tie-ins and preludes to the infinite crisis I didnt even bother, inspite of the TPB are out right now. Matter of fact there were tie-ins to tie-ins. :lol: you have to be kidding me. There was no way in hell I was going to get them.
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I picked up Black Panther # 20. It was very interesting what the Inhumans are planning to do.
P. Gorath
10-24-2006, 11:47 AM
IC tie-ins were good in their own right and paid off very well in IC
I also read the Secret Wars TPB a month or so ago. The first two issues were alright but issue 3 is where things really got kickstarted and it never let up. It was one of the best mini-series that I've ever read. Jim Shooter did a fine job of writing a lot of Marvel's best in that series. Some of my favorite parts of Secret Wars:
*Spidey making the X-Men look like scrubs in issue 3. It was 7-1 and he still owned them.
*Hulk holding up 150 billion tons. Freaking. Sweet.
*Spidey beating the crap out of Titania. She was so much stronger than Spidey but she still never landed a hit on him.
*Doom becoming all powerful only to get screwed at the end.
You forgot Spider-Man getting the black costume 'cuz Julia Spider-Woman's fine ass was on his mind at the time. :rofl:
Also loved James Rhodes in the Iron Man suit hitting on Captain Marvel and she thought it was Tony Stark in the suit, she was all like, "What the hell, Tony Stark got Jungle Fever now?" :rofl:
And Absorbing man re-absorbing the arm Wolverine chopped off when he was in stone mode was classic.
Yeah it really was a great series. It was Marvel's biggest crossover ever at the time and it was their answer to DC's original crisis. It was all good reading it when I was little and buying the Secret Wars toys with the crappy hologram shields too ha ha!
The follow up Secret Wars II was really bad though, they kind of got a little greedy. SW you could enjoy without reading all of the other comics attached to it. Part II was like, "Now go read Incredible Hulk, Avengers, Spider-Man, Power Pack and come back and read the next issue!" The ending to it was very nice though, or it was really freaky when I saw it since it was my first real exposure to the theory of Evolution without giving too much away. Still, Beyonder as a white Michael Jackson with an afroe(and back when this book came out, Michael Jackson wasn't white...) was SOOOO bad.
One great comic did come out of that whole mess though, I thiiink it was written by Peter David, or Byrne, not 100% sure. It was a Fantastic Four issue though. The story was about a kid who worshiped Johnny Storm and one day he covered himself with oil and set himself on fire to be like him and killed himself. Torch was so upset he wanted to stop being the Human Torch. Then the Beyonder approached him and showed him what the kid's life was like. He was physically abused by his parents, abused at school and picked on by his friends, the only good thing in his life was his worship of the Human Torch and he would always escape his problems temporarily through his hero worship of the Human Torch and that was the only time he lived. So Johnny decided to stay being the Human Torch to inspire others. That's one of my favorite single-story comics of all time. Guess I gotta give white Michael Jackson Beyonder props for that one...
Spider-Man with the golden notepad was hella interesting too. Beyonder turned a building to gold and Spider-Man got a notepad out of it. When he tried to sell it, the mafia guy he sold it too (can't remember which mafia guy) put 2 boxes in front of him while he was sitting at his desk. He said one of them had lots of money, the other one had a viper that could kill you with one bite, Spidey had to pick one. At the end of the day, he said "Forget it, keep the stupid notepad." and Web swinged away. Don't you know that both boxes had lots of money in them and Spider-Man could of been a millionare lol! The mafia dude at the end said that "Ah, maybe next time I'll include 2 vipers in both boxes!" :rofl:
The good old days... :smile:
EDIT: Fantastic Four issue I was talking about was issue #285 written and drawn by John Byrne.
Zephyranthes
10-24-2006, 01:14 PM
Those of the Chruch of Bru must repent their ways and accept FAAAABLES!!111 into their lives as the one true king of comics. I bet most of you haven't even read Sleeper, Gotham Central, Deadenders, and A Complete Lowlife. How can you profess so much love for your false idol when you haven't even experienced his greatest triumphs? And do not even dare speak his name if you haven't picked up Criminal.
Edited and fixed for maximum snobbery. Because Lowlife is right up in the same tier with Harvey Pekar's American Splendor.
P. Gorath
10-24-2006, 01:15 PM
haha holy shit reggiehado - at first I thought you were talking about Bendis's "Secret War" and I was about to flame you, as that is the worst mini of recent years known to man (barely beating out house of M).
Jim Shooter is the man, anything he writes has quality to it, especially pre-unity valiant
Zephyranthes
10-24-2006, 01:27 PM
Brian Wood's Supermarket TPB should be in stores this week.
ViciousSLASH
10-24-2006, 02:47 PM
haha holy shit reggiehado - at first I thought you were talking about Bendis's "Secret War" and I was about to flame you, as that is the worst mini of recent years known to man (barely beating out house of M).
Jim Shooter is the man, anything he writes has quality to it, especially pre-unity valiant
Secret Wars was the shit.
I have the comic where Hulk Holds up the mountain.
Molecule Man was like "Hey baby, watch this shit, *picks up an ENTIRE MOUNTAIN RANGE*, lol, we win" He was broken.
And then Reed using his brain to make sure Hulk kept getting angier. That whole sequence was great.
Zephyranthes
10-24-2006, 10:18 PM
My brothers, I have obtained the Holy Grail. I finally got my own copy of Absolute Watchmen. Yes. The oversized, deluxe hardcover complete with dustjacket, slipcase, and 48 pages of previously out-of-print bonus material. This backbreaking tome is now a member of my household. In fact, after getting know this proud volume on an intimate basis, I would go so far as to say that no house is truly a home without it.
Sanchez
10-25-2006, 02:22 AM
For my fellow Hellboy/Mignola fans(Lint, Wellman, others)...
http://hellboyanimated.typepad.com/
Set to air on the 28th on CartoonNetwork. If you were already aware--Carry on.
P.S.-Go read The Wintermen.
Preppy
10-25-2006, 08:10 AM
My brothers, I have obtained the Holy Grail. I finally got my own copy of Absolute Watchmen. Yes. The oversized, deluxe hardcover complete with dustjacket, slipcase, and 48 pages of previously out-of-print bonus material. This backbreaking tome is now a member of my household. In fact, after getting know this proud volume on an intimate basis, I would go so far as to say that no house is truly a home without it.*whistles serenely with his autographed-by-all-involved-including-oddly-enough-Neil-Gaiman leather Deluxe Watchmen (http://cgi.ebay.com/Watchmen-first-printing-graphic-novel-and-book-jacket_W0QQitemZ260045419324QQihZ016QQcategoryZ357 84QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)*
Nice pick-up though: I'm still tempted to get it if just to see the differences...
FWIW: you should be able to pick up Planetary #26 today at long last. :tup:
Picked up Justice and New Avengers.
Justice was pretty good. Alex Ross showing that he can write as well as paint.
New Avengers was a snoozefest. I haven't been enjoying any of the New Avengers arc since the first one.
Ryu & Ken
10-25-2006, 12:36 PM
ok I haven't been into comics for years, so the news series of illumanti is coming out, any other secret wars type series out or just come out.
If so what issues to I have to try to obtain, please help me out here guys
ok I haven't been into comics for years, so the news series of illumanti is coming out, any other secret wars type series out or just come out.
If so what issues to I have to try to obtain, please help me out here guys
Not too sure what you mean... For 'Secret Wars' storyline-wise there's the Beyond limited series right now which is the same premise, Beyonder kidnaps a bunch of people to fight it out on Battleworld, only there's a lot less people and it isn't really super popular characters, outside of Spider-Man, Venom, Wasp, Medusa and Henry Giant/Ant Man. That's pretty good.
If you mean like an omega crossover like Secret Wars was like on Marvel's end there's Civil War and Anihilation. Anihilation is on the cosmic level like the Infinity Gauntlet/War books kind of - Silver Surfer, Galactus, Thanos, Nova, Gamora, etc - the cosmic characters. Civil War involves the Earth based heroes beating each other up. Both have main books and other comics involved in the tie ins. But you can just read whatever comics in those series' that you want for the most part. Civil War has more comics based on it though.
Onslaught Reborn's gonna start up soon and next year the big crossover is gonna be called "Hulk War," well that's subject to change I guess.
DC's not really doing a big crossover right now as most of the comics are not carrying the OYL (one year later) label anymore, the comics are more or less stand alone with some nods to other books. Closest to a current crossover for DC right now is 52, a comic that will come out every week for 52 weeks, they are up to 24. It's not really new-reader friendly be warned. It's interesting though.
Frank Tieri talking about Juggernaut's return to glory. Pretty funny Interview! Crap I may have to start buying Excalibur now....
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=88352
Wellman
10-25-2006, 04:02 PM
Tieri's usage of Huggernaut actually fits the character very well since his "redemption."
ReggieHadoken
10-25-2006, 04:42 PM
Nah, P. Gorath, I ment the 1980s Secret Wars. Seems I'm not the only one who dug it. Was easily worth the $30 I spent on it last year. For me, this was my introduction to a ton of new characters like Molecule Man. To be honest, I thought Molecule Man was the biggest freaking wimp/loser I ever saw, until I learned of his powers and what he could do. He took an entire freaking mountain range and just chucked it on the heroes. I was like :wow:
When they were trapped under those mountains the dialogue between Mr. Fantastic & Hulk was freaking gold!
Hulk: Shut up, Richards! I'm tired of hearing about how brilliant you are, and how brilliant Stark is--! Do you hear me? The dumb brute who's buying you this time is fed up with that garbage!"
Reed: I... see!
Reed: Well, thats' exactly the kind of self-pitying mewling we expect from you, Hulk...or Doctor Banner, or whoever you are! But you're correct--you are a brute... so keep using your muscle! That's all you're good for!
Hulk: Why, you--! you arrogant clown! You know I'm losing my intellect, don't you? You think I'm just a dumb ox again already, don't you? Well maybe I am--but you you better pray your stupid plan fails--because if we get out of here I'm going to rip you apart!
I laugh everytime I read that part.:rofl:
Oh yeah and in the same issue, the X-Men got owned again! But this time by the Wasp! Too good.
The only thing I dislike about Secret Wars was Colossus' thing with Zahji. I mean, he said he loved her and he only knew her for what, a few freaking days?! That whole thing just screamed of bull crap. He knew Kitty longer than he knew her. One minute Zahji was kissin' Torch, the next she's smacking lips with Colossus. What a whore.
sano, thanks for filling me in on Spidey's gold note pad. I have a TON of old issues of Amazing Spider-Man and I was wondering how he handled selling that thing. Somehow Black Cat got a hold of it. Wouldn't Spidey's Spider-Sense let him know which box had the danger in it? Of course if Spidey were loaded, it'd be a bit tougher for the average reader to relate to him. I just thought someone stole that notepad.
That story about the Torch quitting because of some kid killing himself sounds really good. I can actually go and buy it at my comics shop. They have a ton of old comics.
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Today I picked up Essential Incredible Hulk vol. 1-2. I love Marvel's Essential line. I get to catch up on all the great '60s-'70s era comics that I missed out on because, well, I wasn't alive in either of those decades. Screw the Marvel Masterworks series. Yeah, you get some nice hard covers and they are in color but you only get 10 or so comics. You get 20+ in Essential. Since I read a lot of manga, I have no problems read comics in black & white. Plus I get 25% off all TPBs I buy. Man, I love my comic shop.
I also bought Ultimate Spider-Man #101. Wow. Just read the book, guys. That's all I can say.
Chris Clermont's run via Essential X-Men vol. 1 is good suff. I can't wait to get to volume 2 and get into the Dark Phoenix Saga. Wasn't she like ultra broken and like declared an Omega-level mutant?
Colossus fell in love with Zahji because she has the power to make men fall in love with her. That's why she got with the Human Torch later. She was like a micro-Enchantress. Not too sure if this was revealed in Secret Wars or it was one of those things that was revealed later, but basically it's like if she heals your wounds, you fall in love with her.
Well, how accurate Spider-Man's spider sense is is something writers never agree on, kind of like Wolverine's Healing Factor. Now I read this a loooooong time ago - what like, late 80's early 90's? I feel oooold... :rofl: - but another part of the equation if I'm remembering right was that he was taking money from the mafia which didn't sit that well with him, with it being blood money and all.
This week so far -
'Teen Titans Go!' was goodness with Wonder Girl, Murakami even drew the cover with the original TT members done in the cartoon style - Robin, Kid Flash, Speedy, Aqualad and WG of course! There was also a scene in the comic where all five stood together and fought! The story took place after the last episode of the show as Jinx was shown as a TT member. WG looked a little different from her cartoon cameos - her glasses were gone and yellow stars were added to her clothes. They made it kind of really obvious that it was Donna and not a younger Diana in case anyone was wondering about that, since TT isn't that big on revealing secret identities. Only problem, they sure printed that comic on some cheap ass paper....
Sensational Spider-Man was a riot! Aunt May defeating villains ha ha! Overall it seems the villains are little by little surrounding Spider-Man's loved ones. Speaking of -
Captain America - While the heroes are beating each other up Doom and Red Skull are making moves oh....
Civil War choosing sides - Pretty cool. Howard the Duck was funny! Gargan Venom is anti-reg and is trying to leave the country. You find out how US Agent signs up with... another team, I think everyone knows who but I wouldn't want to spoil it just in case...
So I read that Guiding Light / Avengers crossover ordeal. ARG! Couldn't they have teamed up with a Soap Opera I watch like Days of Our Lives! I mean I dunno, once on Days of Our Lives Belle gave Shawn a toy of Captain America and said his name was "Mr. Tough Guy." :lol: Another time on that show Bart, one of the main villain's goons said he was into comics and had them CGC graded which made me laugh since I didn't think anyone in Soap land knew that. There was a character named Josh who was into comics but he never made any kind of references to anything related to Marvel or DC just said a bunch of generic crap... And this ends my pointless Days of Our Lives talk of the month... Hey what do you want? SRK eats all of Million's Soap Opera threads like Skittles...
But it's funny how much Soaps and comics have in common. Aliens, Vampires, Ninjas, Clones, Demonic Possession, appearances by the Devil - these things happen in their more wackier periods or on the regular depending on the show. But on the average they have a long running continuity like comics and dead people ALWAYS come back to life. Some of the explanations as to how people return from the grave are either equally as stupid or even dumber than comic books. :smile:
In that little Guiding Light / Marvel crossover though when Venom's symbiote suit came off he did look like Eddie Brock instead of Gargan. Ha ha Scorpion gets no Guiding Light love. The episode that's supposed to air that ties into the comic book of Guiding Light is gonna play on Monday... they will even run a.... GASP! A COMMERCIAL ON TV FOR A COMIC BOOK!!! I'll try to tape it or something... hopefully I won't forget....
Ryu & Ken
10-26-2006, 10:56 AM
Not too sure what you mean... For 'Secret Wars' storyline-wise there's the Beyond limited series right now which is the same premise, Beyonder kidnaps a bunch of people to fight it out on Battleworld, only there's a lot less people and it isn't really super popular characters, outside of Spider-Man, Venom, Wasp, Medusa and Henry Giant/Ant Man. That's pretty good.
If you mean like an omega crossover like Secret Wars was like on Marvel's end there's Civil War and Anihilation. Anihilation is on the cosmic level like the Infinity Gauntlet/War books kind of - Silver Surfer, Galactus, Thanos, Nova, Gamora, etc - the cosmic characters. Civil War involves the Earth based heroes beating each other up. Both have main books and other comics involved in the tie ins. But you can just read whatever comics in those series' that you want for the most part. Civil War has more comics based on it though.
Onslaught Reborn's gonna start up soon and next year the big crossover is gonna be called "Hulk War," well that's subject to change I guess.
DC's not really doing a big crossover right now as most of the comics are not carrying the OYL (one year later) label anymore, the comics are more or less stand alone with some nods to other books. Closest to a current crossover for DC right now is 52, a comic that will come out every week for 52 weeks, they are up to 24. It's not really new-reader friendly be warned. It's interesting though.
Civil War and Anihilation, gotcha and wait for illumanti.
what is this DC one called and how is it interesting
By Illuminati, do you mean the Illuminati special by Marvel that was one issue or do you mean another series I slept on?
52 is the aftermath of the latest Infinity Crisis, DC's way of re-writing history how they see fit again. They started all of their other comics one year later after the Crisis. So 52 fills in the blanks of what happened that year, like 52 weeks in one year. A new comic is on the racks every single week and it works in almost real time, few pages will be like "Monday, week 25" and then "Wednesday, week 25" until they get to Sunday of that week. So it's interesting to me in that something like this has never happened before. But on the other hand it doesn't have that much action, but when good stuff happens it's REALLY good! Like characters dying, revelations, etc. Sadly it's written like they have all the time in the world, which they kind of do - 52 issues - so things take a while to develop. Arg, what a perfect time for them to do a manga style 10 issue fight but I suppose since one issue takes place for one week, that would be a hell of a fight, 70 days of a nonstop beat down! Now that would be crazy!!! :looney:
If you decide to mess with 52 I guess Identity Crisis followed by the latest Infinity Crisis are mandatory reading, both available in trades. Not sure if 52 will get a trade or not. When asked about it at a con, they said "It would be Huge!" Course that may just be a ploy to get people to buy the comic until they figure out a way to sell it as a bunch of trades... 52 issues damn...
Zephyranthes
10-26-2006, 11:33 AM
Uh, why are we telling the new guy to buy 52 Weeks Of Crap? That's one of the most anti-new-reader-friendly book out there. Its backstory is confusing even for longtime readers- who wants to read a weekly comic where you're almost required to read up on an encylopedia just so you don't feel "cheated" out of maximizing your enjoyment? The art is inconsistent and most of the plots are dragged out. 52 is a superhero comic that isn't about anything.
Instead, what we should be doing is to spread the gospel of FAAAAAAAAAAAABLES!!!!11
http://www.amazon.com/Fables-Vol-1-Legends-Exile/dp/1563899426/sr=8-1/qid=1161887315/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2192026-5266321?ie=UTF8&s=books
Buy and read that. You won't regret it.
Good DC superhero comics are All-Star Superman and probably this comic called Justice. Those are the ones you should start with, abhi. You might also want to track down the JLA books. The first paperback is titled New World Order.
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STUART IMMONEN will take up Ultimate Spider-Man after Bagley leaves. If I were the Kool-Aid Man, I would crash through a brick wall and yell, "OH YEAH!" at the top of my lungs.
Uh, why are we telling the new guy to buy 52 Weeks Of Crap?
Because I'm not telling him to buy Fables. :rofl:
I don't hate 52 myself anyway. Booster Gold = Comedy Gold. :tup:
Non mega crossover stuff on the DC end? Read Detective Comics written by Paul Dini, Nightwing by Marv Wolfman, and the new Justice League of America comic. Superman All Stars is good, I agree with Zeph on that. I missed the boat on Justice so I'll just get it when the trade comes out. Looks purty... Shout out to the new Wonder Woman comic too.
P. Gorath
10-26-2006, 12:15 PM
armor wars tpb is finally coming back into print in january fyi
it would be cool if they started releasing more 90s iron man trades...armor wars 2, the dragon something saga, etc
also anyone remember the issue of cap that was both part of the "man and wolf" crossover (aka cap turns into a werewolf) AND infinity war? 90s goodness right there.
plus I just realized that bagley was the artist for the amazing spiderman arc round robin the sidekicks revenge with my boy darkhawk and like 20 others
I'm reading the last few pages of the Infinity War trade. Starlin is the man. I love it when he does silent/no dialog panels.
Ryu & Ken
10-26-2006, 01:13 PM
By Illuminati, do you mean the Illuminati special by Marvel that was one issue or do you mean another series I slept on?
...
this one coming out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_%28Marvel_Comics%29
P. Gorath
10-26-2006, 01:16 PM
your brain no work good
this one coming out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_%28Marvel_Comics%29
Think that was a one shot / one issue that came out before Civil War started.
Pained Auron
10-26-2006, 07:53 PM
i found a copy of the mark waid/bryan hitch jla oversized book at jeffrey's. i also found the .25 cent fables book. against my better judgement i bought the fables book. i should have spent that quarter on something that's actually good.
new guy needs to read daredevil starting at issue 82. you wont be dissapointed
Carpet Lint
10-26-2006, 09:13 PM
Daredevil is indeed an awesome book - probably Marvel's best title out right now.
It works so much better in trade paperback format though...which is something I find to be true for a lot of Bendis' stuff. I thought Daredevil was sucky when I was picking it up monthly - with all that dialogue and a month between issues it just doesn't work that well as a monthly series. But in trade paperback collections, once it hits your lips, it's so good!
Anything else that Painy says is just a flat out lie though, and he is not to be trusted.
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FAAAABLES!!111111111 is the greatest monthly comic book out right now. That is a factual statement of scientific fact, and many leading researchers in all fields and all disciplines confirm that fact.
Put the first trade (Legends In Exile) at the absolute top of your To Get List. And bump everything else off it.
I'm not even kidding, this book will kick your ass so hard that you'll become addicted to ass kickings.
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I saw Desolation Jones #7 in the store...?
I thought that was only a miniseries. What's going on here? Was it extended into a full monthly series, or am I high again? Or are those just two completely mutually exclusive things?
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I haven't even read Lowlife! I'm a mid-tier bishop at best in the Church of Bru. Damn.
I remember when Gotham Central started, they were all like "THE BRU!!! THE RUCKA!!! TEAM-UP OF THE CENTURY!!!" and both The Bru and Greg Rucka were The Shit.
And then...somehow by the end of that book, Greg Rucka just vanished from the collective comic book nerd consciousness. That guy burned out fast.
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Awesome books to check out...
FAAABLES!!!!!!!!111111111111
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLES!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
FAAAABLES!!!!111111111
FAAAAAAAAAAAABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Also, Green Lantern, Invincible, Walking Dead, Y The Last MAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!111, Ex Machina...and...uh...I'm out. That list was a lot shorter than I expected. I just ran out of steam there. 100 Bullets?
I think I just listed everything that Robert Kirkman and Brian K Vaughan write. Not a bad strategy though.
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Superhero stuff to check out include...
- The beginning of the last JLA run with Grant Morrison and Howard Porter. First trade is New World Order - probably my favourite JLA story. The run was awesome because they realized that the JLA is a team of the top ass kickers in the world, and so every story was on that huge, planetary level.
You can essentially follow that series all the way up through when Morrison is replaced by Mark Waid up until when Waid leaves. Then that book just free falled into suckiness, because they went away from the original idea. They tried to put in all this "What does the Justice League do when it's not the Justice League?" and tried to give each guy all these individual characterization moments...which is retarded, because everyone in the book essentially had their own solo titles already where that stuff SHOULD take place. (Or in Batman or Superman's cases...like four or five of their own solo titles.)
Soap operas only work for the X-Men, and even then, only in the 80's. No one seems to have caught on yet. Grant Morrison's first trade on X-Men was awesome too - E For Extinction. But the rest of it was completely insane and rendered retarded by editorial idiocy.
- The first few The Authority trades by Warren Ellis and Bryan Hitch. The invention of the SUPER EXTREME SUPERHERO genre that Mark Millar is currently choking the life out of. Mark Millar's a hack. Stay away from Ultimates. Pick up the first two Authority trades, and if that gets your penis erect, pick up Supreme Power by JMS.
That was also completely awesome.
- The last couple of Flash trades by Geoff Johns and Scott Kolins. The first is called Blood Will Run, and just keep picking them up until you're sick of the book - which will never happen. I still don't understand how he made Captain Cold and Mirror Master such badass motherfuckers.
And now Geoff Johns is doing the same old thing on Green Lantern, and it's just as awesome. It's so good that I'm not even questioning why or how they're bringing back all these dead characters with absolutely no explanation. It doesn't even matter because you're caught up in the awesomeness.
Don't even look directly at the current run of Flash right now though. It will cause permanent retinal damage. Quite possibly, literally, the worst written comic book out right now. And that includes all that stuff from Top Cow or whatever.
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Invincible and Amazing Spider-Man are also probably two of my favouritest superhero books out right now.
I keep forgetting how awesome Invincible is. That book is slept on more than Paris Hilton. (OOOOOOOOOOoooooooohhhhhhh ho ho ho ho - outdated pop-culture reference! Eat your heart out, Mark Millar, you fucking douchebag!)
I love comics.
By the way, I disown sano for loving the disaster that was Infinite Crisis and 52 more than FAAAABLES!!111 just based on one comic.
Normally I fully respect people's opinions about which comics work for them and which don't, and the whole thing's kinda subjective anyway...but this is just a clear case of...wrong.
You may no longer address me as "father", sano. Just in case you were ever thinking of starting - you may now not start.
I HAVE NO SON
ReggieHadoken
10-26-2006, 10:40 PM
Today I picked up Essential X-Men vol. 2, which contains the Dark Phoenix Saga and the Days of Future Past story arc. Man, the book was THICK! Almost double the size of Essential X-Men vol. 1. John Byrne's art is really something.
Sounds like Sensational Spidey may actually be worth picking up. The book really went to the crapper after Millar's 12 issue run when it was called MK Spider-Man.
Saw some really intriguing TBP's at Borders & Books today. Superman: Birthright and Marvel DC Classic Crossover IV really stood out in my mind. Gonna have to pick those up someday.
Yeah, writers have a tough time with Spidey's Spider-Sense. I think it was Roy Thomas and Gerry Conway that thought it only reacted to threats from bad guys, not those from friends or loved ones. Stan Lee knew better, though. But then, he invented that power, so of course he would.
Speaking of Stan, I was watching my Stan Lee's Mutants, Marvels & Monsters DVD last night. I saw the interview with his wife. I was shocked to regocnize the voice. She did the voice of Madam Web on the '90s Spider-Man cartoon. She seems just as cool as Stan himself.:rofl:
Pained Auron
10-26-2006, 11:00 PM
someone please remind me never to spend money again on fables. it's gonna go to wolverine origin. or some other tpb. maybe young avengers family matters.
Wellman
10-26-2006, 11:51 PM
Think that was a one shot / one issue that came out before Civil War started.
Marvel is putting out a Illuminati mini toward the end of the year.
sano: (In my best Darth Vader / James Earl Jones voice to make Zephyranthes happy but I come off sounding more like Anakin Skywalker in them prequels in reality) Carpent Lint. You are not my father. But Logan, Dog's father is Wolverine's Father or his father is Senior Howlett and Wolverine was a pathetic pajama wearing sick little boy!
Carpent Lint: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
sano: Search the Marvel Universe comics and Marvel.com. You know this to be true.
Carpet Lint and the majority of this thread for no apparent reason: FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLESSSSSSS!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!! !
Hey, Abhi wanted to talk about Super Hero crossovers, we talked about Super Hero crossovers. Only mentioned non-crossover stuff after Zeph did. Last I checked, Fables isn't a super hero mega crossover sorry...
I guess people are gonna bug me about Fables like we bug Carpent Lint for Wolverine Origins, ohs well... I got to play along and start thinking of a funny way to mock the term "FAAAAAABLEEESSSS!!!!111" Hmmm, how about "FAAAAAABULLSHIIII1111T!!!!" :rofl:
No real hate or anything, not towards Fables or any fans of it really. Just clownin.' :clown:
Abhi - Most of the thread likes Fables (except for me and Pained Auron) so check it out if you can and see what you think of it. And stuff... *FILLER*
P. Gorath
10-27-2006, 09:35 AM
i recently read the morrison jla arc rock of ages and i was like wtf...
too plotty for me
DeathScythe
10-27-2006, 09:44 AM
Daredevil is indeed an awesome book - probably Marvel's best title out right now.
It works so much better in trade paperback format though...which is something I find to be true for a lot of Bendis' stuff. I thought Daredevil was sucky when I was picking it up monthly - with all that dialogue and a month between issues it just doesn't work that well as a monthly series. But in trade paperback collections, once it hits your lips, it's so good!
You leave out poor Captain America though. :sad: That is another one of Marvel's better books. As for Bendis' books. The only title I read in paperback form is Powers. Powers reads much better in paperback than all the other books. I guess it's just me.
Any other Powers fans out there? Hello?
- The last couple of Flash trades by Geoff Johns and Scott Kolins. The first is called Blood Will Run, and just keep picking them up until you're sick of the book - which will never happen. I still don't understand how he made Captain Cold and Mirror Master such badass motherfuckers.
Because Geoff Johns is the king of comic book contuinity. Too bad he couldn't deliver with Infinite Crisis all the way through. He also made Mirror Master into a cokehead as well.
And now Geoff Johns is doing the same old thing on Green Lantern, and it's just as awesome. It's so good that I'm not even questioning why or how they're bringing back all these dead characters with absolutely no explanation. It doesn't even matter because you're caught up in the awesomeness.
Yeah, GL still doesn't have a solid explanation as to WHY exactly he's back. Well, there kind of is, but not one that is concrete. And yes, GL kicks much ass. Too bad not too many people are reading that. Just like all of Geoff's other stuff.
Don't even look directly at the current run of Flash right now though. It will cause permanent retinal damage. Quite possibly, literally, the worst written comic book out right now. And that includes all that stuff from Top Cow or whatever.
I can't believe I'm actually buying this book on a monthly basis. It's really not going anywhere. And the last issue was crappy. Ugh.
P. Gorath
10-27-2006, 10:19 AM
I am establishing the New Church of Foibles
its two commandments are: 1. Fables sucks 2. Brubaker is overrated
now admitting members
DeathScythe
10-27-2006, 10:26 AM
I am establishing the New Church of Foibles
its two commandments are: 1. Fables sucks 2. Brubaker is overrated
now admitting members
Heathen! The Church of Bru shall stop you! I summon the Inquisition!
I am establishing the New Church of Foibles
its two commandments are: 1. Fables sucks 2. Brubaker is overrated
now admitting members
Even though I like Brubaker sign me up! Bru is a scooooch over-rated on this thread, I'm just saying... Deadly Genesis and his X-Men stuff are great, still kind of mad he brung Bucky of all people back to life, 'cuz seriously dayuuumn.... He's been dead for about 40 years, and not just comic book years, real actual years because how long ago was World War II? Yikes... chalk this one up to me hating comic book ressurections in general...
Preppy
10-27-2006, 12:56 PM
Wow. This is just like Civil War - how will I choose sides? :sad: On the one hand, I've learned that anything Bill Willingham does now I just can't like (after Proposition Player, it all seemed to go downhill), and on the other, I've got a mancrush on Brubaker ever since the eyepoppingly good Sleeper. Hopefully Criminal will be bad and I can get off the sidelines here.
The Planetary finale (26 - 27 is the epilogue) was surprising. Good but surprising - true to the general nature of Planetary over time, but still just kind of the typical Warren Ellis jarring twist that makes me like his work.
NextWave 9: Still funny. Awesome to see Forbush Man return. Combined with the GLA and Captain Carrot getting comic time again, this year's been a great year for bad joke characters. Next thing you know, Dan will be the final boss in SF4.
Desolation Jones 7: Skip! Almost as obtuse as 100 Bullets. It may make sense later, so pick it up then if it suddenly turned out to be worthwhile.
Daredevil: Nice. Not stunning, but damned interesting.
The Boys: If you like Garth Ennis (and how could you not), pick this up. A liiiittle slow paced but still pretty awesome. Still crazy but played remarkably straight for an Ennis work.
Anita Blake Vampire Hunter: I had to pick this up for my girlfriend who's addicted to the series. I won't bother to read it, but... FYI for anyone else who has Anita Blake addict friends.
Pained Auron
10-27-2006, 06:47 PM
I am establishing the New Church of Foibles
its two commandments are: 1. Fables sucks 2. Brubaker is overrated
now admitting members
1. i agree with.
2. you can burn in hell
Zephyranthes
10-27-2006, 06:53 PM
I think I will start a third side: The TRUE BRU Fan Coalition.
This is for the TRUE BRU fans who know his true skills and versatility as a writer. Members of the TRUE BRU Fan Coalition aren't the bandwagoners who bought Deadly Genesis because Marc Silvestri drew the covers.
We are the TRU BRU fans who can claim him. We've read Catwoman. We've read Sleeper, Gotham Central. We've read the PREZ one-shot. We slit our wrists when Deadenders got cancelled. We cut ourselves and jumped into bathtubs full of rubbing alcohol when Paul Gulacy drew Catwoman and the book started sucking- just so we could suffer for his sins. We can say, "We've been reading Ed Brubaker's comics since 1982."
As for FAAAAAAAABLES!!!11, as far as I'm concerned, we've already won. You guys can join the losing side if you want. Go read Street Fighter: the comic- it also has vast mythology!!!!1
ReggieHadoken
10-27-2006, 10:44 PM
Ah. I love being a comic book fan. Marvel's Essential line is becoming my new best friend. I may just buy up the entire Essential line. As of X-Men #101, the Phoenix Saga just started. Man, this is some good stuff. I watched the Fox X-Men version of the Phoenix Saga so many times when I was a kid, but to finally be able to read about it is a dream come true. Matter of fact, it's kinda scary how similar the cartoon version of it was to the comic now that I look at it.
I thought about getting into 52 but I heard it wasn't newbie friendly. Kinda sucks. I mean I know about Batman & Superman but when it comes to more knowledge on the DC universe, I come up really short. Maybe I'll just pick up some DC TBPs. I saw a few of the Infinite Crisises TBPs at Borders. Been wanting to look more into the DC world.
Anyone read any of the Stan Lee Meets titles? Stan Lee Meets The Amazing Spider-Man was comedy gold! I was just gonna get the Stan Meets Spidey but have decided to get Stan Meets Thing, Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, and Silver Surfer. All of them have a reprtint of a classic Stan Lee story featuring whatever character he meets.
I was very much impressed on Kevin Smith's 8 issue run on Daredevil. It wasn't the first time I read DD, though. I have two issues from Bendis run on the book and they were excellent. But the way the budget is now, don't know if I can afford another monthly comic to buy.
Carpet Lint
10-27-2006, 10:57 PM
Hilarious how you decided to just cut it to "TRU" mid-post.
At this point in time, the Church of TRU BRU may only have a congregation of one. I know that I can't personally say that I've read all the works of BRU from 1982 until now.
Also I didn't really dig Deadly Genesis all that much, and I completely forgot to pick up the new Uncanny jump, which probably doesn't speak much for my interest in it. But I've been conditioned to beware X-books for the last ten years though, so you can't really blame me for that.
There's a slight overbundance of Bru love, which I guess maybe the official mission statement of the Chruch of TRU BRU. He is what he is - no more, no less.
And hating FAAAAABLES!!11111 is like hating gravity.
IT'S THERE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!! You can deny all you want, but when you finish reading Infinite Crisis and Ultimate What The Fuck Ever Just Give Us Your Money and you finally realize how empty and meaningless your FAAAAABLES!!!!1less existence is - which direction do your tears fall?
Down, bitches.
WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?
i recently read the morrison jla arc rock of ages and i was like wtf...
too plotty for me
Yeah, that was the one story in his run that I didn't really dig that much. If you think about it, there were two pretty neat stories in there - Prometheus and Luthor team-up for a new Injustice Gang, and that whole Darkseid alternate future thing was cool too.
But the way it was combined, and the ridiculous cosmic insanity of the New Gods stuff - that broke my mind. It got pretty clumsy at some points - Morrison went a little overboard with all that Wunderworld stuff.
RALLY THE ARMIES OF MAN
I think it would have worked better as two separate stories, because I was really digging the Injustice League stuff before it got crazy.
That Prometheus fight was one of Batman's top ten most badass mothershutyomouth moments.
You leave out poor Captain America though. :sad: That is another one of Marvel's better books. As for Bendis' books. The only title I read in paperback form is Powers. Powers reads much better in paperback than all the other books. I guess it's just me.
Any other Powers fans out there? Hello?
I respect Powers, I've read Powers, and I thoroughly enjoyed it...yet I don't follow it. It may be just because I've already completely oversaturated myself with commitments to other books...but I just don't know why I haven't been on that wagon more.
And I completely forgot Captain America somehow, please forgive me.
Yeah, GL still doesn't have a solid explanation as to WHY exactly he's back. Well, there kind of is, but not one that is concrete. And yes, GL kicks much ass. Too bad not too many people are reading that. Just like all of Geoff's other stuff.
Yeah, like...isn't Kilowog dead? And when did Guy change back from Warrior? And are you forcing me to buy Ion to learn ANYTHING about what happened to Kyle? You're not giving me anything at all about him?
I still get a feeling like DC's saying "Yeah...here's how Hal Jordan came back - blahblahblahblahHERE'S SOME REALLY COOL GREEN LANTERN STORIES JUST ENJOY THE RIDE AND DON'T THINK ABOUT IT!!!"
Which I don't really have a problem with.
I can't believe I'm actually buying this book on a monthly basis. It's really not going anywhere. And the last issue was crappy. Ugh.
I actually liked the art in the last issue I picked up before I dropped it - they had gotten either a new inker or a new colourist or something. And everything looked really clean again and it was actually some pretty cool art.
But the writing was still the same. I have never seen supporting characters so forcibly jammed into a story like this before. That whole thing with the girl came out of nowhere, and I have absolutely no emotional attachment to his retarded buddy or to Bart.
I WANT WALLY BACK, WHAT THE HELL
This whole One Year Later thing sucked. I don't know if they were doing it so that new readers and old readers could both jump on and discover everything at the same time...but they only succeeded in confusing EVERYONE, new and old alike.
Wellman
10-27-2006, 11:08 PM
Okay, I am REALLY late on how good, Sandman is. I just bought the reprint of #1 and it actually makes me want to pick up the trades.
Also Seven Soldier just wrapped up with #1, not bad but I wished I would have paid attentation to all the mini's because damn, if I didn't have moments of 'Eh' or 'Huh?'
Anyone read any of the Stan Lee Meets titles? Stan Lee Meets The Amazing Spider-Man was comedy gold! I was just gonna get the Stan Meets Spidey but have decided to get Stan Meets Thing, Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, and Silver Surfer. All of them have a reprtint of a classic Stan Lee story featuring whatever character he meets.
Is it really that good? After that terrible Stan Lee presents DC comics series I was kind of weary about reading a comic he was involved in from 1990 and up. Maybe I'll look at it...
ViciousSLASH
10-28-2006, 12:24 PM
Marvel Ultimate Alliance is fun.
Got it, cheated and now I have all the characters after the first mission.
Team Black People and Team Illuminati for the win.
Thor in Classic Costume is probably my favorite character so far. FOR ASGARD !
coco_j
10-28-2006, 07:58 PM
Is Ms Marvel and Spider-woman in it?
Zephyranthes
10-28-2006, 08:44 PM
Yeah, that was the one story in his run that I didn't really dig that much. If you think about it, there were two pretty neat stories in there - Prometheus and Luthor team-up for a new Injustice Gang, and that whole Darkseid alternate future thing was cool too.
But the way it was combined, and the ridiculous cosmic insanity of the New Gods stuff - that broke my mind. It got pretty clumsy at some points - Morrison went a little overboard with all that Wunderworld stuff.
RALLY THE ARMIES OF MAN
I think it would have worked better as two separate stories, because I was really digging the Injustice League stuff before it got crazy.
That Prometheus fight was one of Batman's top ten most badass mothershutyomouth moments.
It broke your mind because you're hopelessly confused, player. Rock Of Ages doesn't have the Prometheus Vs. Batman fight. I think you're combining Rock Of Ages with World War III- but I can hardly imagine what sort of tormented thoughts rail on and about in the mind of a crazed Canadian.
All of Morrison's JLA is pure gold. But Rock Of Ages is probably my favorite of the TPBs. If there's any flaw in Rock Of Ages, it's that Morrison was forced to use the stupid Electric Blue Lightning Superman Crapface. Somehow, he still managed to give Electric Blue Crapface a few cool moments, but I feel the story is tainted somehow. Mullet-Superman in the beginning of JLA was pretty nasty, but not as distracting as Crapface.
ViciousSLASH
10-28-2006, 09:58 PM
Is Ms Marvel and Spider-woman in it?
Yeah.
The characters selection is kinda ass. They put electra and ms marvel in but forgot a certian giant green person.
No Hulk. I mean WTF, NO HULK !??!?!?! Get the hell outta here.
Also you get screwed if you buy the PS2 version, 360 and PSP versions get more characters.
I just finished beating up Modok with the Fantastic Four a little bit ago. We whipped his ass.
ReggieHadoken
10-28-2006, 10:12 PM
Is it really that good? After that terrible Stan Lee presents DC comics series I was kind of weary about reading a comic he was involved in from 1990 and up. Maybe I'll look at it...
The asking price is $3.99 per issue but these really aren't serious stories here. Stan is doing these all in humor. Stan says humor is his fav thing to write. Also, you get bonus stories from different writers like Bendis and Whedon.
Zephyranthes
10-28-2006, 11:10 PM
I think Hulk isn't in MUA because he got licensed to some other company.
Zephyranthes
11-01-2006, 01:18 PM
Wow, this pompous jackass doesn't think comics are worthy enough to classify as "literature."
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,71997-0.html
Steven Grant has some well-thought out commentary on the subject as well, at the beginning of this column.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=10
American Born Chinese for the win, biznatches.
Picked up JLA 3 today.
Pretty good stuff. I really like the new villain Dr. Impossible, even though he didn't really do anything in this issue.
Pained Auron
11-01-2006, 11:44 PM
our lord and savior bru blessed us with 2 books this week. criminal is the shit. you guys need to go read that and make it your bible
ReggieHadoken
11-02-2006, 03:10 AM
If anyone cares, Peter David has picked a side in Civil War. He's with... the resistance. He thinks Cap is toing about it the wrong way though. Instead of an army of soliders, P. David, thinks Cap needs an army of lawyers.
Essential X-Men vol. 1. I don't care if this is in black & white. My words, these stories are so freaking good. Chris Clermont is the best thing to ever happen to this book. Dave Cockrum's art is superb. John Byrne's also pretty good. Too bad Bryne's got a bit of an ego.
This week -
Nightwing 126 was my favorite book of the week. You see Dick Grayson have a phone conversation with Alfred and helping out a younger acrobat in training. Really good that Wolfman is delving into Dick Grayson's character and fleshing him out. Even got rid of his Batarangs so he has his own projectiles now, they look kind of like Robin's Birdarangs in the Teen Titan / The Batman cartoons only they are all black.
Bru X-Men - This was also really good. Gladiator owns ALL! Didn't really notice this but a letter writer happen to catch it - in previous issues Vulcan destroyed the Shiar's stargates which explains why they are not involved in Annihilation, that's just genious writing right there...
JLA 3 was interesting in that they are still picking members. Go former Teen Titan member who made the cut! :tup:
Stan Lee meets Spider-Man - This came out a while ago but I finally got around to reading it. Yeah, it was really funny! Even the stories by Whedon and Hembreck were also hilarious! :rofl:
Ninja Scroll - A little better than last time I guess but they are still re-hashing the movie's story, hopefully they'll get past that soon.
Ghost in the Shell 1.5 - Eh, another manga? Takes place in between 1 and 2? Ohs well, at least I could understand this issue unlike part 2 with all of that techno jargin... Togusa has a main role in this, working with a guy named Azuma under Aramaki, don't know what Batou is up to but Batou was in part 2 with a shaved head hanging with Aramaki. Still no Kusanagi Motoko but she is on the cover of 1.5 course to sell books! :lovin:
I forgot to mention it but 52 was really good last week with Manheim's crazy power boost. Anywho, someone else got eliminated from the pool, I'll update in a bit...
Not sure if this was mentioned but in Thunderbolts after Civil War the team will have Venom, Green Goblin and Bullseye in the roster for some craziness... Zemo won't be back though.
52 POO!
ELIMINATED
The Damned - Week 26 - Sorry Damned, using an advanced level of mathematics and dividing 52 by 2 is not gonna get you the double whammy of goodness that is an X-Force issue #1 signed by the legendary Rob Liefeld. You've just lost the opportunity of going blind for a week, sorry... :rofl:
REMAINING
Taichi - Week 27
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Deathscythe - Week 45
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Sheng-Long - Week 51
Adam Warlock - Week 52
Zephyranthes
11-02-2006, 12:22 PM
Superman Confidential was really good this week. Finally, a new Tim Sale DC comic written by someone great. COOKE > Jeph Loeb.
Local #7 is one of the best issues so far. Ryan Kelley's art got even better this issue. I love stories about loser assholes who think they are hot shit, and get a deserved and massive beatdown.
I think Criminal has graduated after only the second issue. From this moment henceforth, Criminal will now be referred to as CRIMINAAAAAL!!!1 due to its sheer, undiluted awesomeness.
Also picked up Fantastic Four: First Family. Anything Joe Casey writes, I must buy. Got to support his rockstar lifestyle. Only read the first few chapters, but so far, so damn good. Chris Weston's a really great artist, too. It's totally wild to see him drawing standard superheroic stuff. He has just a detailed but crisp style and his work reminds me of Bryan Hitch's. I haven't seen any Giant Flying Sperms Of Mass Destruction yet, though.
Pained Auron
11-02-2006, 08:45 PM
I think Criminal has graduated after only the second issue. From this moment henceforth, Criminal will now be referred to as CRIMINAAAAAL!!!1 due to its sheer, undiluted awesomeness.
.
we finally agree on something
P. Gorath
11-02-2006, 09:58 PM
wonder woman: land of the dead, infinite crisis companion and superman: up up and away tpb's came in the mail today. The second I become employed Im going on a huge buying spree.
Also can anyone recommend Gotham Central? Have I asked that before?
MrQuotes
11-02-2006, 10:15 PM
watsup
just recentely got into comics..
first one i read was Preacher, and god damn did i love it.
i just recently bought my first graphic novel Identity Crisis, heard alot of good things about it from people.
so far im really enjoying it, been a fan of the cartoon beforehand so it was easy for me to get into...
whats the big thing going on in terms of graphic novels these days? i heard alot of buzz about civil war...
P. Gorath
11-02-2006, 10:20 PM
If you liked Preacher then check out any of Ennis's Punisher trades
If you liked Identity Crisis check out the Omac Project tpb
Zephyranthes
11-02-2006, 10:48 PM
Gotham Central is the best. Brubaker and Rucka alternate arcs, and there are a few where they cowrite together. They divided the cast into day shift and night shift. All of the issues are straight money, and I think this stuff is the best stuff Rucka's ever done. Heck, even Rucka's one issue Infinite Crisis tie-in kicked the ass of anything else that had the word "Crisis" on the cover. Plus the art is always top tier. The series even has a great ending. Best. Batbook. Ever. Well, maybe.
The only problem with the trades is that they skip some key issues. I also heard that the volume 3 trade had a misprinted page, which won't be corrected unless it gets a second printing (fat chance of that happening).
ReggieHadoken
11-03-2006, 11:35 PM
Picked up Incredible Hulk #100 today. It caught my interest so I picked it up. Apparently, I've come in at the begining of a new story arc but it has something to do with something called "Planet Hulk." Sucker is THICK. Has some preprents of Hulk from vol. 1. Haven't read it yet but looking forward to it.
New Avengers #24. I really enjoyed this one. Sentry has the power to end Civil War but he doesn't wanna fight against his friends so he goes off to the Moon to think things over. Then Iron Man had to drag him back home. The Inhumans guest started this issue. Great stuff. I like how Bendis is dedicating each issue to a single member of the team, each handling CW in their own way. Spidey probably won't have an issue about him since his is being done in Amazing Spider-Man. Frickin' delays. Holding up CW AND ASM. Grrrrr!!!:annoy:
I Heart Marvel: My Mutant Heart. The best story in this book was called "How Love Works." First story I ever read that involved Doop. My word, it was freaking hilarious! :rofl:
Bought Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange and Stan Lee Meets The Thing. Only two more Stan Lee Meets to go and I'll have 'em all.
Also picked up Essentail Fantastic Four vol. 1
Zephyranthes
11-04-2006, 10:55 PM
I Heart Marvel: My Mutant Heart. The best story in this book was called "How Love Works." First story I ever read that involved Doop. My word, it was freaking hilarious! :rofl:
That's right, man. DOOP.
DeathScythe
11-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Criminal kicked much ass this time around. Crooked cops ftw?
And what the fuck happened to Paul Dini on Detective Comics? Is his run over? What's happening? I'm scared. Although, Batman owning up Dr. Phosphorus with baking soda did have me laughing.
Superman Confidential kicked much ass as well. Damn you Darwyn Cooke for being so good. And Tim Sale's art is still too good till this day. His Supes is a lot thinner as well compared to the fat version from For All Seasons. Very good read and I guess we're gonna get the origin of Kryptonite in this series? Or is this an ongoing monthly?
52 was pretty weak this...er...uh....week.
P. Gorath
11-04-2006, 11:27 PM
I believe dini is just off for one issue
Pained Auron
11-05-2006, 02:31 PM
annihilation 4 this week bitches
The Damned
11-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Wow.
I just finished reading the five issues of Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. I bought from Isotope after learning that Photon was in it and...ye gods....
:rofl: :rofl:
Why fuck has no one else ever talked about this book?
"Schrodinger's death!"?
"Do you think this letter on my chest stands for America?!"?
:rofl:
This book also gets bonus points for seemingly drawing The Captain to be purposely ugly/un-attractive without making him all that tough-looking. It's rare to see anyone not fat get "The Marrow Treatment".
sano: Stupid DC and their being on time.... :bluu:
Carpet Lint
11-05-2006, 07:49 PM
It broke your mind because you're hopelessly confused, player. Rock Of Ages doesn't have the Prometheus Vs. Batman fight. I think you're combining Rock Of Ages with World War III- but I can hardly imagine what sort of tormented thoughts rail on and about in the mind of a crazed Canadian.
I am so lame.
___________
Is Nextwave getting a softcover trade anytime soon? Because I thought they were so I've been avoiding the hardcover, but Warren Ellis is my God and I need to get in on that soon.
And I had no idea Local #7 was out already - obviously my comic book dealers lied when they agreed to put it on my pull list.
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Surprised at how fast CRIMINAAAAAAAAAL!!!111 jacked up. Two issues in and it's already gotten crazy.
Everytime I read a non-superhero book I can't help but start thinking of who would be cast for the movie. Especially for a comic book version of Heat.
So far I have...Scarlet Johansson as Greta...and that's as far as I got.
What's the deal with all the hottest people in Hollywood being in comic book movies?
Jessica Alba, Fantastic Four/Sin City. Scarlett Johansson, Ghost World. Natalie Portman, V For Vendetta.
I mean, that's the Holy Trinity of Hotness right there.
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Completely unrelated topic - WATCH THE PRESTIGE RIGHT NOW YOU.
It's Memento/Usual Susects level awesome. I just happened to think of those two because one's Nolan directed and they all mess with the chronological order, but quality-wise it's right up there.
Watch it!
And when's The Fountain coming out? Is the comic any good?
Wolverine may be married, but he is so gay that it isn't even funny.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=POmD7Ovje2Y
Actually...it's pretty funny. You will never be able to watch X-Men the same way ever again.
Zephyranthes
11-05-2006, 09:59 PM
All of those "Marvel Premiere" edition hardcovers will get turned into softcovers. It'll take awhile, though. I also wanted to get Nextwave and Ghost Rider, but I didn't feel like the hardcovers are as good as softcovers... The Premiere hardcovers have normal paperback dimensions, so I don't really see the point. I'd rather have a cheap paperback.
The Fountain comic came out as an oversized softcover edition a week or two ago. It looks really good.
Vertigo also recently reprinted Stardust- Neil Gaiman's novel with Charles "SAAAANDMAAAAN!!!1 #19" Vess illustrations. That book looks excellent as well. I think we should all buy a copy. The movie is coming out sometime soon and we should all be look down on all of our non-comics reading friends and say, "Psht. The comic kicked the movie's ass."
I still need to get my own copy of 300. Damn me.
ReggieHadoken
11-05-2006, 10:35 PM
So is Civil War Choosing Sides worth picking up? I'm a bit curious but would like to hear but some of my fellow comic fans think about it first.
sano, if you enjoyed Stan Lee Meets The Amazing Spider-Man, I highly recommend you pick up Stan Lee Meets The Thing and Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange. Both books are freaking hilarious with more funny stories. In the Stan Meets Dr. Strange, there's a bonus story featuring some dude named Impy the Impossible Man. It's to be one of the funniest stories I've read.:rofl: I was already planing to buy Stan Lee Meets Dr. Doom and Stan Lee Meets Silver Surfer but now the remaining two books have become a high priority. With all the seriousness going on in comics these days, I love picking up a comic that is ment to make me laugh out loud.:rofl:
Finished readin Essential X-Men vol. 1. Freaking awesome book. One of the best Essentials I've ever read. Just started Essential Hulk vol. 1. It's always interesting to read earlier stories. In the first issues, Hulk wasn't fond of humans and he hated his alter ego. And he kept on parts of his shirt and shoes when he changed.
P. Gorath
11-06-2006, 12:01 AM
reggie, if you didnt know there is an uncanny x-men omnibus out which basically covers all of essential x-men 1 and 2 but in full color and hardcover
sano, if you enjoyed Stan Lee Meets The Amazing Spider-Man, I highly recommend you pick up Stan Lee Meets The Thing and Stan Lee Meets Dr. Strange. Both books are freaking hilarious with more funny stories. In the Stan Meets Dr. Strange, there's a bonus story featuring some dude named Impy the Impossible Man. It's to be one of the funniest stories I've read.:rofl: I was already planing to buy Stan Lee Meets Dr. Doom and Stan Lee Meets Silver Surfer but now the remaining two books have become a high priority. With all the seriousness going on in comics these days, I love picking up a comic that is ment to make me laugh out loud.:rofl:
Yeah I've seen them both at the comic shop last week, I'll try to pick them up when I can. :smile:
ReggieHadoken
11-06-2006, 06:54 PM
reggie, if you didnt know there is an uncanny x-men omnibus out which basically covers all of essential x-men 1 and 2 but in full color and hardcover
I saw Uncanny X-Men Omnibus 1 at my comic shop today. It was in shrink wrap so I couldn't flip through it but I'm sure it's pretty sweet. Problem is, the book costs $100. I know Marvel's Essentials get lots of criticisim for not being in color but the absense of color really doesn't bother me all that much.
At my comic shop on Monday afternoon I picked up these babies. With my 10% discount I save cash on everything I buy.:lovin: They weren't in mint condition but all of them are in good condition.
http://spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_amazing/053.jpg $13.45
http://spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_amazing/057.jpg $8.95
http://spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderman_amazing/070.jpg $13.45
Dragon Punch
11-08-2006, 09:53 AM
I'm writing an essay on Promethea by Moore issues 6-12. Any one have any thoughts pertaining to:
story and narrative devices
Relationship between form and content
ways in which meaning is communicated in the selected text
use of space, contrast, composition, layout, dialog, characters
relation ship between the text and the genre
interplay of expectations of author and reader
effectiveness, impact
Zephyranthes
11-08-2006, 09:09 PM
Cool. Are you writing for a class?
This is where someone needs to punch me in the face, because I still haven't read Promethea yet. Flipped through it numerous times and read bits and parts, but I just haven't gotten around to buying own copies of it.
I am interested in your essay and I'd help you if I knew anything. What do you have so far?
P. Gorath
11-08-2006, 09:54 PM
I dont remember the Y readers in this thread but if you are one then pm me for some info
Carpet Lint
11-08-2006, 10:03 PM
Yeah, I've been meaning to read Promethea for like years, ever since I saw one of it's art books. ...but I just keep forgetting. But I want to hear what you have so far too. Cool choice.
And what's the dealio, P.Giddy? Top secret spoilers? If so, I want no part in your trickery!
ReggieHadoken
11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
So I read Incredible Hulk #100, the first part of Planet Hulk-Alliance. It doesn't seem very newbie friendly, but the story is still interesting, nonetheless. Still can't believe that Reed, Dr. Strange, and Iron Man exiled him to another planet. Were things really getting that bad that they had to send him to some other world in the form of deception? I'll be picking up the following issues so I can read the whole Alliance story arc.
The extras in Hulk #100 were also pretty good. I liked the Planet Cho story. Dude's is broken with that brain. He's probably smarter than Mr. Fantastic. Also, I really liked the reprint of vol. 1, Hulk #152. #153 was sort of a letdown, though.
Essential Hulk vol. 1 is good but there are some loser villians in it. Metal Master? Man, I hope he never shows up in the book again. Also, I found the commies to be funny but they started poping up far too often. I liked the story where Rick Jones was mind linked to the Hulk. Man, if I had control of the Hulk like that, I'd cause so much freaking damage, it wouldn't be funny.:rofl:
Pained Auron
11-08-2006, 11:00 PM
OMG annihilation 4 was the shit
SPOILERS
I'M WARNING YOU
LAST CHANCE
drax goes kano on thanos' ass and rips his heart out.
END SPOILERS
Zephyranthes
11-09-2006, 12:04 AM
When I first read your spoiler, I thought you'd written that he goes all "sano" on the dude's ass. I started thinking about what that meant. Like if it meant that he got a deep Darth Vader-ish voice and just intimidated the other guy.
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What's this information you offer, Psycho Giddy? And what makes it so sacred that it deserves its own PM?
matrix9280
11-09-2006, 03:43 AM
Why even post spoilers? What you don't have self-control or something? It all seems pretty selfish to me.
DeathScythe
11-09-2006, 08:09 AM
I dont remember the Y readers in this thread but if you are one then pm me for some info
YOU SPOIL NOTHING!!! I'm tempted though.
eddymasta
11-09-2006, 09:01 AM
So i've started reading the Marvel knights run of punisher, and its pretty awesome so far. Hes actually become one of my fav Marvel characters, and I wanna read more. I hear punisher is gonna have a big part in the CW series soon; and I was wondering if it would be possible for me to just pick up the issue where punisher gets involved or am I gonna have to read like 18 different series to get caught up in the goings on of the Civil War?
Being a comic n00b sucks :(
Dragon Punch
11-09-2006, 09:16 AM
Yea i'm doing the essay for a cartoons and comics class...god I love university. I'll post up what i've written when i get back from class.
52 POO!
ELIMINATED
Taichi - Week 27 - Taichi knows more about DC than anyone else at Shoryuken.com. It stands to reason that he just doesn't know how to get that first issue of X-Force signed by Leifeld since it's a Marvel comic! Meaning that Taichi... is overall a Rocket Scientist. :rofl:
REMAINING
Agmaster - Week 32
sano - Week 33
Deathscythe - Week 45
Zephyrantes - Week 47
Sheng-Long - Week 51
Adam Warlock - Week 52
Adam Warlock
11-09-2006, 10:47 AM
Adam Warlock - Week 52
Big money, bitches, BIG MONEY!
P. Gorath
11-09-2006, 10:49 AM
So i've started reading the Marvel knights run of punisher, and its pretty awesome so far. Hes actually become one of my fav Marvel characters, and I wanna read more. I hear punisher is gonna have a big part in the CW series soon; and I was wondering if it would be possible for me to just pick up the issue where punisher gets involved or am I gonna have to read like 18 different series to get caught up in the goings on of the Civil War?
Being a comic n00b sucks :(
MK Punisher is indeed good, although it wears out its welcome by the end before being gloriously resurrected as a MAX title. For Punisher in Civil War I believe all you need to pick up is the latest issues of Civil War proper as well as Punisher: War Journal, a new 616 series written by Matt Fraction debuting at some point during CW. Just keep in mind the Punisher involved in the CW stuff won't really be the same one as his MK incarnation.
What the heck does going all sano mean? Maybe I'd hand Thanos his MSH/MVC2 movelist and ask him to perform all of those moves! Well, don't know what's going on with the Infinity Gems / Gauntlet since he'd kind of need those to do all that stuff... Maybe I can hand him an old Nintendo Power Glove. Yeah, that'll work! :rofl:
This week -
Holy crap I didn't know the second Devil May Cry novel (mostly text) took place between DMC1 and DMC2??? It explains what happens to Trish and Nelo Angelo, Capcom fanboy in me is happy!
But since that's not a comic for me, pick of the week is definitly Annihilation! Aside from the spoiler revealed Thanos owned Moondragon and they mentioned that Planet Earth could not fight back the wave due to Civil War. KICK ASS!!!
Batman - Not the conclusion that I was looking for but I'm kind of glad this story is over. Not Morrison's best. Now bring on the Joker!
Teen Titans - Wha... wha... WHA...? Marv mentions the "Mad Mod" days. Um, isn't Mad Mod a TT cartoon villain only? Is he coming over to comic book land like Mas y Menos? Gosh darn it, I want Kid Wicked! In my best Patrick Stewart imitation, "Number One. Make it so. ENGAAAAAGE!"
Wolverine Origins - Best part was when Wolverine stuck three claws through someone's foot on the floor when he was a flight below, heh heh!
Zephyranthes
11-09-2006, 11:31 AM
Mad Mod was a comics character first. I think he's just old-school and hasn't really been used much in the modern day. Mad Mod is probably the DC version of Arcade, who only shows up when Claremont's writing.
Dang, sano got an Evil Ryu avatar. He looks pissed.
Mad Mod was a comics character first. I think he's just old-school and hasn't really been used much in the modern day. Mad Mod is probably the DC version of Arcade, who only shows up when Claremont's writing.
Dang, sano got an Evil Ryu avatar. He looks pissed.
Ah, okay thanks on the Mad Mod info.
I'm not angry, just misunderstood.... um.... yeah....
(Darn it I told that nosey reporter, "Mr. McGee. Don't make my Avatar angry. You won't like my Avatar when it's angry." He just doesn't listen...)
ReggieHadoken
11-09-2006, 01:13 PM
Dang, sano got an Evil Ryu avatar. He looks pissed.
Yeah, I know what you mean. At first I only saw the av and I didn't even notice that it was sano until I finally noticed the name above it.:rofl:
Was thinking about starting a thread about our fav comic book writers/artists/best runs. What do you guys think?
Yeah, I know what you mean. At first I only saw the av and I didn't even notice that it was sano until I finally noticed the name above it.:rofl:
Darn it, that's what happens when I rock the same avatar for like 2 years... :lol:
I took the image off of a fan art someone did on Akiman's Website, just really dug the drawing. Reminded me of like Fist of the North Star anime meets Street Fighter for some reason. Oh and whenever you can get away with putting pink behind an evil character that's pretty cool in my book. :smile:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/futaenokiwami/SNHRYUZ.jpg
Oh and I like comic books. Wow, another on topic post from sano... I apologize to the other 90% that don't give a damn about an avatar change... :sweat:
Reggie - Don't see nothing wrong with you starting another thread. There's at least a thread just for Civil War too.
eddymasta
11-09-2006, 01:58 PM
MK Punisher is indeed good, although it wears out its welcome by the end before being gloriously resurrected as a MAX title. For Punisher in Civil War I believe all you need to pick up is the latest issues of Civil War proper as well as Punisher: War Journal, a new 616 series written by Matt Fraction debuting at some point during CW. Just keep in mind the Punisher involved in the CW stuff won't really be the same one as his MK incarnation.
Yeah, I understand that :)
I'm just really interested in the premise: Punisher goes and kicks the bejesus out of the villains that the heroes have forgotten about while arguing amongst themselves. But yeah, I plan on getting all of the marvel knights, and Max Punisher series. I want to get the original war Journal and what not but its kinda hard to find it, not to mention its prolly expensive as hell :/
Pained Auron
11-09-2006, 09:21 PM
Why even post spoilers? What you don't have self-control or something? It all seems pretty selfish to me.
because we dont read every book out there. if someone wants to know what happened, then they read the spoilers. if not then they ignore it. you should expect spoilers in ths thread anyway. at least i'm nice enough to label them
Zephyranthes
11-10-2006, 12:32 AM
Painy is, by my estimation, the nicest person in this entire thread. Whenever he posts an anti-FAAAABLES!!1 rant, I always punch myself in the face a few times to suffer for his sins.
eddymasta-
I have the the first trade of the original Punisher War Journal from back in the late '80s. It has some early Jim Lee artwork. It sucks pretty badly. It's not really worth the trouble of seeking. But if you really want to check it out, you can have mine.
Pained Auron
11-10-2006, 01:07 PM
i have the fables gn on hold at my lcs. i might get it next week
P. Gorath
11-10-2006, 01:17 PM
finished IC Companion...my favorite of the IC specials was probably Omac Project because it actually showed some things that happened after the events in IC that I didnt know about. Rann-Thanagar was good except for Jade's death which felt pretty pointless.
DeathScythe
11-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Other than the usual books, I decided to pick up a few of the Dark Victory figures. They look pretty nice. Although the Robin figure could use some more articulation. I just don't get why DC Direct just doesn't say "fuck it" to the collector market and just put some Marvel Legends articulation into these suckers? I'm all up for a display piece, but if it has more than 4 points of articulation might as well go all out.
Jim Gordon looks great though. I'm definitely gonna get that one after I get out of this hellhole known as work.
Pained Auron
11-10-2006, 04:42 PM
civil war AND moon knight this week. it's gonna be great
ReggieHadoken
11-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Civil War #5 is coming out this week? About FRICKIN' TIME! Sick of all these delays. Marvel can't get a 7 issue mini-series out monthly? I don't buy that "giving the artist more time crap." DC can do a weekly series like 52 but Marvel can't even get out a seven issues a month? You're lookin' like scrubs, Marvel.
Essential Hulk vol. 1 was having some hit & miss periods with me but it seems like the book is really hitting it's stride. Everyone seems to think Bruce is a traitor because he keeps disappearing and they think he's in league with the Hulk.:rolleyes: Still, it makes for some good writing and I'm loving Jack Kirby's art. Kirby > Ditko. You know it's true.
I also want to read more of the Planet Hulk Allegiance story. I kinda wonder how Hulk will feel when he gets back to Earth. Will he want to eff up Reed, Tony, Dr. Strange and Black Bolt, or will he feel they did him a favor?
DeathScythe
11-12-2006, 01:33 PM
Civil War #5 is coming out this week? About FRICKIN' TIME! Sick of all these delays. Marvel can't get a 7 issue mini-series out monthly? I don't buy that "giving the artist more time crap." DC can do a weekly series like 52 but Marvel can't even get out a seven issues a month? You're lookin' like scrubs, Marvel.
Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. 52 DOES rotate like five different artists. Civil War only has one. And Marvel MAY be looking like scrubs. But, current DC stuff has been lacking. Geoff Johns only real good book is Green Lantern. The upcoming JSA book will be tops though. Everything else is...meh. Could use some work. DC is giving me more '90s extreme' with each book rather than the genious stuff that they put out last year leading up to Infinite Crisis.
Still, it makes for some good writing and I'm loving Jack Kirby's art. Kirby > Ditko. You know it's true.
I agree with this. That's why I love Darwyn Cooke's art. It's Kirby-esque.
I also want to read more of the Planet Hulk Allegiance story. I kinda wonder how Hulk will feel when he gets back to Earth. Will he want to eff up Reed, Tony, Dr. Strange and Black Bolt, or will he feel they did him a favor?
Enter Marvel's 2007 crossover "World War Hulk." The title says it all...
"If you thought Civil War was tough on Earth's heroes, you haven't seen anything yet! Come May 2007, one of the biggest, baddest threats ever to step foot on Earth returns—and he's not happy. Fresh from his interstellar space odyssey in "Planet Hulk, " the Jade Giant makes his way back to Earth for "World War Hulk" and we've got the first peek look at art from "WWH."
Tricked into heading off-world by the Illuminati in Incredible Hulk #88-#91, Hulk was du