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Sheng-Long

03-14-2006, 11:20 AM

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I do agree that no one can handle Venom quite like his creator could, although the stuff that was happening in the recent Venom limited series which tied into his story in Spectacular Spider-Man was really good. Too bad Marvel Knights Spider-Man came along just after it and ruined all of it by having Scorpion get the suit and Eddie attempting suicide....

I agree with the Micheline Venom stuff, but I disagree with Maximum Carnage. I tried re-reading that 2 years ago and I couldnt even try. I think halfway through the 14-issue run Black Cat dropped out because she broke her ankle. You hear a lot of people complaining lately about Bendis stretching 2-issue arcs into 4 issue arcs but man.....that's nothing compared to Maximum Carnage which is pretty much 3-issues (I'm being generous here) dragged on to 14 and ends with the most unsatisfying conclusion ever.

Now about Venom, the problem with his character is that he wasn't used very well, I agree with you. There are a lot of themes that could've been explored, but this being the 90s, character development was very much non-existent. Unfortunately, the conclusion to the character came NOT when he died and lost the symbiote, its when he no longer had a vendetta against Spiderman. Carnage was created for this reason.

Spiderman editors decided to take him in a direction that would not really take him anywhere, but at that time, the idea of "anti-heroes" were huge selling points and it was very easy for them to just make him one. That was the real moment that the character died.

besides the ultimate series what does marvel have? Also in Ultimates 2 I am only up to chapter 9, did 10 - 12 already come out?

10 is out, check http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping.asp (BOOKMARK IT!) for shipping dates. Don't trust other sites' release dates, including DC or Marvel's (specially Marvel!!).

What does Marvel have?
You can never go wrong with Punisher MAX and Daredevil, they are for more mature readers though. Runaways and Young Avengers for teen titles. She-Hulk and GLA for humor. New Avengers and Astonishing X-men for team titles.

I dunno bout other current series, but they release A LOT of minis. I enjoyed Daniel Way's Nighthawk and Punisher vs Bullseye stuff (I'm enjoying his current run on Wolverine as well) and Garth Ennis' Ghost Rider.

Not sure if there's any Spawn readers here, but it seems the series is getting to be really good. I haven't read 153 yet, but have heard good things.

Spawn's costume has evolved once again, he lost the gauntlet and something else, not sure what it looks like now. He can also use the powers of the Spawns before him(Not sure if Medieval Spawn fits into this equation, due to the licensing issues) planning to pick it up this week.

I don't read Spawn anymore, but have you heard of the licensed Spawn Manga that they recently translated and released here? I heard it got good reviews, you might wanna check that out.

Speaking of Image comics, Invincible rocked as usual. Latest issue was pure action and reminded me of watching Dragon Ball Z when I still enjoyed it, with the Viltrumites paralleling Saiyans.

Anyone reading the "new" batch of Vertigo books? Exterminators, DMZ, Testament, Loveless etc?

I don't think I've picked up anything new in a while. I kinda lost interest in Loveless, probably just pick up the trade when its out. How are the other ones?

ChairHome

03-14-2006, 11:21 AM

Spoiler response

Response to SPOILER response:
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Actually, I believe what happened was that Batman through a batarang that ricocheted and sliced him in the neck (I guess it would be a non fatal wound), then joker blew all three of them up (supposedly), but I figure that either it didn't kill them (batman got them all out in some crazy scenario, probably not), or the whole splitting into other earths thing that happened on the last page might have something to do with it.

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Wheeeeee.

Sano

03-14-2006, 11:40 AM

Sheng Long - That's the thing. You tried reading Maximum Carnage 2 years ago. I read it when it came out. It was a different time then, crossovers were bigger deals and so on, much like you pointed out. Some stories I think are timeless, others are reflections of the time period they came out which Maximum Carnage was all about. Symbiotes were all the rage too. It's still required reading if your a Spidey fan so you can find out what happened to four armed demon Spidey who's name escapes me. Well, if you care. Oh well just my opinion on that. I still think lots of stories even today are dragged out when they don't have to be (glares at House of M... or if you want a non Bendis one Wolverine working for Hydra for 12 issues with zero point zero ramifications), it's just one of those things.

I still miss the 80s and 90s. Secret Wars I, Spider-Man Gang War, the Who is the Hobgoblin storyline, Cosmic Universe Spidey, good Claremont X-Men books, Inferno, oh well time marches on... I do think both Marvel and DC are doing great stuff right now, within the last 3 years or so ('cuz 2000-2003 was kind of blah for the most part IMHO with few exceptions).

The Venom Anti-Hero thing they tried for a while since he forgave Spider-Man, but he later blamed Spider-Man for the death of his wife, went back to being evil, and no one has handled him right since.

EDIT: Manga Spawn is pretty good, they actually bothered to tie the story to regular Spawn continuity and it actually works, instead of being something entirely different. Check it out, be warned it has a serious Manga storyline slant to it, Spawn uses karate and can win against Jesus Christ because he believes in the power of wanting to save his sister, typical Manga stuff lol! You either love it like me or hate it.

BEWD

03-14-2006, 12:12 PM

Thanks Sheng, I heard of the manga on animenation, and I will pick it up now knowing it got good reviews.

One thing that's really pissing me off with Todd is the latest character, Man of Miracles. I know even Taichi has probably heard of Miracleman, and the big licensing debacle a few years ago. Now Todd has come up with this new character(who's uniform is a blatant ripoff, and only real difference that i could see is a slight hairstyle/color change) in an attempts to slap Neil Gaiman in the face.

Also to add insult to injury, MoM is a retcon of cogliostro, a longtime spawn favorite who was ALSO created by Neil Gaiman. I don't know what the fuck Todd's problem is with Gaiman still, or why he can't leave MM alone, but this is absolutely pathetic. I'll post an image of MoM later on, but you can also wiki him, his pic should be in the spawn section.

Taichi

03-14-2006, 12:14 PM

I know all too well who Miracleman is......

and if Todd's ripping him off, as a means to spite Gaiman, I hope Gaiman takes him (and his balls) to the cleaners....

of course, Todd did the same to Marvel, and got away with it (Spawn is a Venom Ripoff) because he didn't get creator rights to Venom.....so, I'm not surprised he's trying it again........

BEWD

03-14-2006, 12:52 PM

Hahah I already knew about the Spawn/Venom thing. There was even a satire in a comic magazine about how Spawn's original suit was a amalgamtion of various popular heroes uniforms.

Back to Miraclaman, here's a pic of MoM. According to those on Spawn.com, he's a distinctly diff. character, with a slight MM influence. Influence, or Plain ripoff? You decide.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1090/manofmiracles2cl.gif

Zephyranthes

03-14-2006, 01:28 PM

Anyone reading the "new" batch of Vertigo books? Exterminators, DMZ, Testament, Loveless etc?

I don't think I've picked up anything new in a while. I kinda lost interest in Loveless, probably just pick up the trade when its out. How are the other ones?

I haven't picked up any of the new wave Vertigo books yet. Loveless looks great, Azz and Fruslin, so I'll get the collected edition for sure. I'm also a huge Brian Wood fan so I'm definitely gonna get DMZ. Steven Seagle and Becky Cloonan just came out with American Virgin, and that's gonna be well worth a look (I read some of the first issue). The thing with Vertigo is that they're quite timely with their trade paperback releases, so I'm never in a rush to buy the serials. Plus most of those comics are good enough to warrant a permanent edition.

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I think looking for ramifications and long-lasting repercussions in corporate-owned superhero books is asking for a little too much. It's gotten to the point now, where so many fans have demanded ramifications for every major event that things are just getting convoluted and forced. Like Clinty posted a little while ago, Infinite Crisis is full of forced drama. DC is taking the issue of ramifications very seriously and they're working extremely hard to make sure that every issue of every title they publish contains some important significance to the "bigger picture." While this is probably what most comics fans want, I personally don't really care for it.

Preppy

03-14-2006, 04:02 PM

Wow - that's a pretty obnoxious rip-off. Thanks for the pic. =\

One thing that's really pissing me off with Todd is the latest character, Man of Miracles. I know even Taichi has probably heard of Miracleman, and the big licensing debacle a few years ago. Now Todd has come up with this new character(who's uniform is a blatant ripoff, and only real difference that i could see is a slight hairstyle/color change) in an attempts to slap Neil Gaiman in the face.

Also to add insult to injury, MoM is a retcon of cogliostro, a longtime spawn favorite who was ALSO created by Neil Gaiman. I don't know what the fuck Todd's problem is with Gaiman still, or why he can't leave MM alone, but this is absolutely pathetic. I'll post an image of MoM later on, but you can also wiki him, his pic should be in the spawn section.
Neil stomped Todd in court hard-core, and if you read up on the case, it's ridiculous what Todd was attempting to get away with ("the ownership rights Todd was going to transfer in the deal that he backed out of were simply one expired copyright registration.").

Neil blogs pretty actively... I'll be curious to see if he has something say here. I'm also curious to see what's going on with the 1602 / Marvels & Miracles (?) work/money... =\

EDIT: The current good read on the Miracle/Marvelman story. (http://www.creators.qcomics.net/viewtopic.php?t=26) It's just crazy stuff.

Taichi

03-14-2006, 04:11 PM

I hope Neil takes him to the cleaners, Todd's Ego needs a good jolt of reality.......

the man's been told "Yes" so many times, he forgets what it means to be told "No".......which is why he's doing this......fuckin' rich kid syndrome.......

TheDarkPhoenix

03-15-2006, 08:58 AM

WOW just got around to reading Ultimate ff4 #20 and it was great! I never was a fan of the inhumans but they seem to own in the ultimates

bill_rizer

03-15-2006, 09:27 AM

hey i just read hulk vs wolverine now wiothout spoiling it could somebody tell me what comic banner commited his crime in? I see Ironman flying off so was that in the ultimates?

Ive been out the loop to say so im a bit lost, thanks to anyone that can help.

Also I'm liking hulk vs wolverine so far the first issue second page DAM! ouch is all I can say.

Sheng-Long

03-15-2006, 09:44 AM

..snip..
Actually I read it as well when it came out and I said I re-read it again 2 years ago for nostalgia's sake. But I felt It didn't age very well compared to say the original Venom story that ran onto Amazing #300 by Micheline/McFarlane. It just seemed like a real drawn out story to me. Infinity Saga, Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, etc holds up pretty good as well for its age as well.

WOW just got around to reading Ultimate ff4 #20 and it was great! I never was a fan of the inhumans but they seem to own in the ultimates

Yeah i love Jae Lee's designs. esp with Black Bolt having his mouth covered (which makes sense because of his power). Also one of the inhumans looked like Oro (green version) !!

hey i just read hulk vs wolverine now wiothout spoiling it could somebody tell me what comic banner commited his crime in? I see Ironman flying off so was that in the ultimates?

Ive been out the loop to say so im a bit lost, thanks to anyone that can help.

Also I'm liking hulk vs wolverine so far the first issue second page DAM! ouch is all I can say.
Thats in the Ultimate universe.

Ultimate Hulk destroyed part of New York and killed 600 ppl IIRC. They sentenced him to death via Hydrogen bomb. lol

Sano

03-15-2006, 10:01 AM

Actually I read it as well when it came out and I said I re-read it again 2 years ago for nostalgia's sake. But I felt It didn't age very well compared to say the original Venom story that ran onto Amazing #300 by Micheline/McFarlane. It just seemed like a real drawn out story to me. Infinity Saga, Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, etc holds up pretty good as well for its age as well.

Ah, okay gotcha.

P. Gorath

03-15-2006, 10:04 AM

infinity war and crusade dont hold up...

maximum carnage was ass then and its ass now, people just remember it fondly because it embodied everything that was wrong with 90s comics (i would say even moreso than maximum clonage)

you know what else is ass? xtinction agenda. that crossover does not hold up at all. AoA however = still badass

Carpet Lint

03-15-2006, 10:41 AM

Neil stomped Todd in court hard-core, and if you read up on the case, it's ridiculous what Todd was attempting to get away with ("the ownership rights Todd was going to transfer in the deal that he backed out of were simply one expired copyright registration.").

Neil blogs pretty actively... I'll be curious to see if he has something say here. I'm also curious to see what's going on with the 1602 / Marvels & Miracles (?) work/money... =\

EDIT: The current good read on the Miracle/Marvelman story. (http://www.creators.qcomics.net/viewtopic.php?t=26) It's just crazy stuff.
That's a pretty cool read.

It still doesn't really make sense to me, though I have to admit I've never bothered to really get into the details.

Gaiman is saying that the Angela and Cogliostro characters and whatever are his, right? And when McFarlene went back and claimed ownership of all the characters in all of the Spawn books, he shouldn't have been able to use Angela and Cogliostro...?

But didn't Gaiman write FOR McFarlene's book? Like what happens when Bendis creates a new Avengers villian? Marvel automatically assumes ownership of all characters and whatevers that come out of their books right? So Marvel automatically owns that new villian. So since McFarlene owns Spawn...shouldn't it work the same way?

The confusing thing to this is that Image is a creator owned publishing thing...so the rules kind of blur there.

Am I not understanding this correctly? Should any writer for Spawn get to own their own created characters then, if Gaiman does? Or was that just specifically stated in only Gaiman's contract? And so if the contract is what it is, and McFarlene broke it...then how the hell did it get so far into court? Shouldn't it be clear who's in the wrong and who's in the right?

And the Miracleman thing I just don't get, because I don't really understand what legitimate claim McFarlene would have to the character for it to even enter into the discussion.

Regardless, it's still a pretty silly situation, and it's embarrassing for comics for so many grown men to whine about who owns which superhero for so many years.

Taichi

03-15-2006, 11:30 AM

Todd's a Douche, and Larsen's his bitch, and I hope they both suffer......

ChairHome

03-15-2006, 12:42 PM

Just read Teen Titans Annual #1 and Infinite Crisis Secret Files 2006. Both were okay reads. TT annual deals with some more inbetween scenes from Infinite Crisis. Not that much action, but its a pretty good read. Robin is awesome, for no particular reason. I also just saw the preview (newsarama) for Robin OYL that comes out next week, and damn it, I might have to pick that up.

**Minor Spoilers**
IC Secret Files is sort of a prologue to the crisis. It actually explains a few things that we already know, but its nice to actually see some character development behind the IC villains. The last page seems kind of rushed, though. I wish this came out earlier, would've made the story behind Jason Todd's return a little easier to swallow.
**Bigger Spoilers plus speculation**
A lot of people are talking about which hero will die in the next IC, and after reading TT Annual, I guess all signs are pointing to Connor Kent. Kinda sad. The last panel is him flying away and leaving her in Smallville to help out with the Crisis saying, "I Love You, too, always". What I'm thinking, and I may be wrong, is that if he does go, maybe Cassie has his baby, since they did the horizontal polka (a term I learned from Family Matters) in the issue. At least that's what I'd like to happen, if he does go.

bfnh

03-15-2006, 12:59 PM

no way dude should own medieval spawn. as larsen puts it -- it's spawn on a horse. angela may have been derivitave, but she is a different character.

mcfarlane is w/out a doubt an ass, as evidenced by the Man of Miracles character.

anybody got links to images of the ultimate versions of the inhumans? the only thing i've seen online is a preview of thanos.

Nemesis00

03-15-2006, 04:12 PM

The Ultimate Inhumans look pretty much exactly the same, but with more toga use.

ANd the Iron Spidey counts goes up to two with Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #2.

Carpet Lint

03-15-2006, 04:32 PM

WOW just got around to reading Ultimate ff4 #20 and it was great! I never was a fan of the inhumans but they seem to own in the ultimates
Wait, Ultimate Four #20 was the Mad Thinker story arc, there's no Inhumans in there. You mean the Annual or whatever, right? Where they go rescue Crystal or something?

And dude, how can you not love the Inhumans?

That twelve issue Inhumans series by Paul "Origin" Jenkins and Jae Lee is one of the stories ever. I swear to God, pick up the trade, you won't regret it.

That goes for everyone.

Black Bolt is the pimpest dude in the entire Marvel Universe. I think I've said this already, but I cannot think of a cooler dude in normal current continuity. I gotta go to like DKR "This is an operating table" Batman to out-trump his badassness in Inhumans.

He was even awesome in Earth X. With the knight armour redesign - shit was awesome.

I know everyone's (including myself) getting tired of the huge crossovers, but I'm actually looking forward to that Illumantiwhateverthefuckingspellingis arc with THE SECRET MARVEL UNIVERSE COUNCIL just to see Black Bolt get some more screen time.

Carpet Lint

03-15-2006, 04:46 PM

THE SPIDER-POOL

1 - Tantinny - ELIMINATED
10 - VSY
30 - Shengy
35 - abacabby
42 - Shinny
43 - Zephy
45 - Nemy
47 - Rony
49 - Warlocky
50 - Dammy
52 - Welly
53 - archy
67 - THE LINTSTER

THE SPIDER-COUNT

1) Amazing Spider-Man #530
2) Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #2

Sorry Tantin, but as a great man once said..."GAME OVER!!!"

Damn, just two? My 67's not looking so hot right now.

Taichi

03-15-2006, 06:24 PM

There oughtta be two Comics Threads, so I don't have to listen to all this Marvel-Talk! :lol:

Adam Warlock

03-16-2006, 08:09 AM

I leave for a week and I come back to find Taichi spreading disease. Seriously, half your posts are you spouting bullshit about your likes/dislikes with no useful info whatsoever. Bring something to the table or STFU. We booted the last fucker to do that shit with DC/Marvel and you're not special. 6 posts in the last 2 pages that say nothing but "I hate" and "so and so sucks."

infinity war and crusade dont hold up...

I disagree. I think infinity War still reads well. Crusade was rushed to begin with, so of course it doesnt age well.

I'm looking forward to Son of M for some reason. I'm really interested in seeing what they do to him. Is he going more "the Flash" route?

TheDarkPhoenix

03-16-2006, 08:17 AM

Wait, Ultimate Four #20 was the Mad Thinker story arc, there's no Inhumans in there. You mean the Annual or whatever, right? Where they go rescue Crystal or something?

And dude, how can you not love the Inhumans?

That twelve issue Inhumans series by Paul "Origin" Jenkins and Jae Lee is one of the stories ever. I swear to God, pick up the trade, you won't regret it.

That goes for everyone.

Black Bolt is the pimpest dude in the entire Marvel Universe. I think I've said this already, but I cannot think of a cooler dude in normal current continuity. I gotta go to like DKR "This is an operating table" Batman to out-trump his badassness in Inhumans.

He was even awesome in Earth X. With the knight armour redesign - shit was awesome.

I know everyone's (including myself) getting tired of the huge crossovers, but I'm actually looking forward to that Illumantiwhateverthefuckingspellingis arc with THE SECRET MARVEL UNIVERSE COUNCIL just to see Black Bolt get some more screen time.

My fault is was the annual, and yes i can feel myself slowly becoming a black bolt fan... Infact today i'll that inhumans "orgins" trade paper back!

I'm looking forward to seeing more of them in UFF tho....

FreddyL0c0

03-16-2006, 08:26 AM

There oughtta be two Comics Threads, so I don't have to listen to all this Marvel-Talk! :lol:

or u could simply go to the DC board.....but come to think of it, im sure Marvel will get mentioned there anyways.

guess ure "cursed" Taichi

Sano

03-16-2006, 08:54 AM

Someone asked about Nightwing before. Do not read any Nightwing comic written by Devin Grayson whatever you do. Thank the heavens that she is no longer writing it.

That being said Nightwing OYL is really good.

******SPOILER***********

Nightwing's in NYC. It starts off with him slitting a criminal's throat! Later we find out that there are 2 Nightwings, one who kills and one who doesn't. Teen Titans Red X anyone lol!

He's in NYC now, no more Bludhaven (which got blown the Hell up anyway).

Anyway, a good read. Can't wait to see what happens next (and Nightwing 2 better not be Jason Todd or I will take my kind words back...)

Taichi

03-16-2006, 09:05 AM

Heh, I've been to the DC Board, it's been re-built so many times that I hardly recognize it......

The World Speedy, the smackhead (My old DC Board username) grew up in, is long gone.......

ChairHome

03-16-2006, 09:08 AM

******SPOILER***********

Nightwing's in NYC. It starts off with him slitting a criminal's throat! Later we find out that there are 2 Nightwings, one who kills and one who doesn't. Teen Titans Red X anyone lol!

He's in NYC now, no more Bludhaven (which got blown the Hell up anyway).

Anyway, a good read. Can't wait to see what happens next (and Nightwing 2 better not be Jason Todd or I will take my kind words back...)

************Spoilerrific**************

Read my post a page or two back... get ready to take your kind words back.

Even more interesting than that, a lot of people think the other Nightwing isn't Dick Grayson, either, because of his actions in this issue. He's in Africa with the outsiders anyways, right?

Sano

03-16-2006, 09:18 AM

......

WTF man no more Jason Todd DC! :annoy:

maxx

03-16-2006, 09:20 AM

spoiler regarding nightwing

*evil nightwing is jason todd*

end spoiler

Taichi

03-16-2006, 09:28 AM

If they had brought Jason Todd back in Hush, it would've had a huge impact, instead they brought him back, as the 'villain of the week', and it has nothing.....

he was better off dead......

ChairHome

03-16-2006, 09:33 AM

If they had brought Jason Todd back in Hush, it would've had a huge impact, instead they brought him back, as the 'villain of the week', and it has nothing.....

he was better off dead......

Villain of the week? He's a major character now! Since his reintroduction as the Red Hood, he's been prominently featured in at least one bat title a month. His consistency makes him more than a "villain of the week".

Taichi

03-16-2006, 09:42 AM

his reintroduction didn't seem that special to me......

instead of the 'holy shit!' reveal we could've had in "Hush" (Apparently this was originally how it was supposed to go down, but it was found out, and leaked, so they made a last minute change, into clayface), we got the 'oh look, Jason Todd's back, how nice' humdrum approach.....

If you're a comic fan, and didn't see this coming, ever since the revelation that the body was missing in "Hush", then you'd make a good Miss Deaf Texas

Wellman

03-16-2006, 11:23 AM

I got to agree with Taichi, Jason Todd's return is basically like all of Batman's recent major villians such as Hush and Black Mask. The build up has practially either an entire Batman title or whatever dedicated to making the villian a threat. And in less than a year and half it will just be a flash in the pan.

The only thing with Jason Todd's return is that it eliminates one of Batman's greatest failures.

I'm looking forward to Son of M for some reason. I'm really interested in seeing what they do to him. Is he going more "the Flash" route?

SPOILER

Actually so far it is a more overly complex but not broken power route, he is currently able to travel a set amount of time into the future but returns to the present whereever he was in the future. He is supposed to later develop the ability to hop into the past as well.

He is trying to return mutant powers to the depowered mutants by using the Terrigan Mists, it is interesting how far he will get with this.

End of SPOILER

P. Gorath

03-16-2006, 12:16 PM

updates: ive been reading through punisher max hc vol.2, finished the first arc and am in the middle of up is down, black is white. I read JLA: Crisis of Conscience and it was alright, not as good as the direct IC specials. the Secret Wars hardcover came in the mail today so i will crack that open at some point. Still 50-50 as to whether to start picking up the planet hulk trades. Lapham's batman arc tpb was in the june solits so thats good. batman fans annoy me...always clamoring for something new and different and when they get it crying about it because its different. city of crime will be great in tpb form.

poo

03-16-2006, 12:34 PM

ChairHome

03-16-2006, 12:36 PM

Hey,

I have been getting into comics lately after reading through the Ultimate Spiderman series. Infinited Crisis sounds really cool, but one concern of mine is getting confused due to my lack of knowledge of the DC universe. Do you guys think that it would be a wise choice to dive right in, or read infinite crisis at a later time?

I'd say you should have basic knowledge about what occurred during the original Crisis on Infinite Earths, and possibly Identity Crisis, and then some info about the pre-Infinite Crisis books would help. You could probably get most of this info off of Wikipedia or another site.

Yasashiyama

03-16-2006, 01:03 PM

Spoiler for Generation M and Runaways.

So I just read Generation M last night and I'm not sure what to say. In a way it's good to get some closure on the explanation of the death Sally's baby, even though it sounded weird with the whole "turning younger" thing. The bad part? Involving the X-Men to save her ass from the psycho mutant. I like the X-Men and all but it seems so unrealistic to have them in almost every single comic. They could have done some crazy stuff by making her kill the guy herself (or at least IMHO).

Then there's the Runaways. I dunno about some of you but I ALWAYS love reading an issue, even if nothing much happens. Always funny, great writting and the best art I've ever seen. The only thing I REALLY want to know is who the hell is Geoffrey Wilder. Anyone here know?

End spoiler.

maxx

03-16-2006, 01:45 PM

is petro getting his powers back? wtf? is he becoming broken....depending on the answers i may search for back issues.

Sano

03-16-2006, 02:16 PM

Even with the Jason Todd/Nightwing thing I'll hang with it for a few issues 'cuz anything is better than Devin Grayson writing the book. She was writing Nightwing as if he was Batman lite and that's not who he is. They are very different. First of all people like Nightwing. Batman, people respect him, but not too many people like him or would invite him to hang out. Second of all he is not the loner that Batman is. Since he lost his family at a young age he is always looking for that dynamic in his life, that's why he works great with teams, he essentially wants everyone to get along whereas Batman could give a rats ass. Infinite Crisis got NW right, saying that he is one of DC's BEST heroes. And a big boo goes out to Devin Grayson for not tying Nightwing to IC, having him doing some loner BS...

Back to the new comic - Nightwing 2 slitting that crook's throat was really graphic, I'm still clutching my throat... I'm such a wuss...

Nemesis00

03-16-2006, 02:34 PM

"The only thing I REALLY want to know is who the hell is Geoffrey Wilder. Anyone here know?"

The answers you seek lie within the issue itself. Look in the past to see what was brought back to the present.

Yasashiyama

03-16-2006, 02:46 PM

Taichi

03-16-2006, 02:56 PM

Even with the Jason Todd/Nightwing thing I'll hang with it for a few issues 'cuz anything is better than Devin Grayson writing the book.

Co-Sign

BEWD

03-16-2006, 04:37 PM

I'm curious to know if any of you guys play Upperdeck's VS. system card game. Seems like something you DC/Marvel(since those are the only two companies on board right now) would like.

Zephyranthes

03-16-2006, 04:39 PM

Hey,

Infinited Crisis sounds really cool, but one concern of mine is getting confused due to my lack of knowledge of the DC universe. Do you guys think that it would be a wise choice to dive right in, or read infinite crisis at a later time?

I'd say that unless you have access to a good portion of the past couple years' worth of DC comics, it's probably best to pass on Infinite Crisis at the moment. I'm a pretty big comics fan and even I don't know everything that's going on. Like someone else mentioned, you could probably get the gist of the main plot if you read up summaries online... But that kinda takes away a lot of the fun of comics, and discovering things through actually reading comics that you want to read. I'm not down with any fictional superhero comic that requires you to do research.

Taichi

03-16-2006, 04:47 PM

I'm curious to know if any of you guys play Upperdeck's VS. system card game. Seems like something you DC/Marvel(since those are the only two companies on board right now) would like.

I collect 'em (as well as HeroClix), but I don't play......

Wellman

03-16-2006, 10:29 PM

maxx

03-16-2006, 10:36 PM

lol gambit got robbed as the third summers kid. i want him to still be the third summers kid. fuck this new guy...the summers gene is a fuckin beast gene even without jean grey as a mother. all of the men are born leaders.

Rage02fire

03-16-2006, 11:07 PM

SPOILER FOR RUNAWAYS:

Yasashiyama: He is Alex's dad.

END OF SPOILER

I seriously was really waiting on Annihilation, but looking at the back of the prologue, I have to say, first I thought it was a seven issue series for the main event. And second and finally I don't like waiting four months to get to the goods.

Brother has lost his patience with Seven Soldiers and all the other events. I want the trade NOW!

SPOILERS

LOL ya that shit surprised me in Runaways ,when I saw him in the panel instead of alex returning. It's kinda fucked up how someone had to die to bring him back. Poor latino man gamer.:rofl:

END of SPOILERS

As for anihilation Yeah. It seems marvel is pulling off something REAL big with this if they're going to have it run out like a year. It's funny too, planet hulk ends in 07 as well.

Is marvel trying to make something big with all these comsic events takin a year to finish...

Yo Maxx, the new summers guy is cool though I like his powers alot.

Gambit being the summers brother was a good ideal but I'd prefer have the 3rd kid be a rape child of D'ken and scott's moms instead.

The Bucket Of Truth

03-16-2006, 11:33 PM

where the hell is ultimates 2 #10? if its out why the hell dosent anyone on dc++ have it?"It wasn't your gamecube!" lol nice sig BEWD

maxx

03-16-2006, 11:47 PM

Is marvel trying to make something big with all these comsic events takin a year to finish...

i dunno, marvel made it seem like its just sumtin to do with these guys. like how i read joe q's comments was it really wasn't gonna effect anyone but the cosmic characters. but w/e as long as we get adam warlock and some of the cosmic fam a damn series i'm good.

Rage02fire

03-17-2006, 12:19 AM

where the hell is ultimates 2 #10? if its out why the hell dosent anyone on dc++ have it?lol nice sig BEWD

Man, simon get yo ass on IRC if you want Ultimates2 10.:smokin:

snip

Oh they'll have him man, if they don't marvel's gonna have alot of warlock fanboys Pissed.:rofl:

The Bucket Of Truth

03-17-2006, 01:18 AM

will do. thanks man

Sheng-Long

03-17-2006, 06:51 AM

WTF is up with Annihilation prologue?

Did Scott Kolins only do the first few pages? Coz the rest looks so goddamn ugly.

TheDarkPhoenix

03-17-2006, 10:08 AM

Son of M #4 =:tup:

Zephyranthes

03-17-2006, 01:41 PM

Has anyone watched V For Vendetta yet?

Wellman

03-17-2006, 07:53 PM

Literally the unthinkable will happen according to Newsarama.

The Crossover of the Year? Or Ruination of TWO universes? (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=63348)

BEWD

03-17-2006, 08:19 PM

Lol, thanks for the nod to my sig truth, that vid's still golden. =]

Here's the article about the new spawn/batman crossover.

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6781

Taichi

03-18-2006, 11:37 AM

What are some of your favorite covers, that you either own, or want?

here's my pride and joy:

Green Lantern #85 (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/Blisterfists/adamscover.jpg)

I used to own Incredible Hulk #181, but I sold it because I didn't want it getting stolen.....

Kim Sue-il

03-18-2006, 02:35 PM

Man what the hell is up with Emo Whiner Superboy-Prime? First he's the reason behind Jason Todd coming back, and now he's the reason behind all the continuity problems in DC. I think it's time for me to start banging on the walls and throwing one of those hissy Emo fits.

BEWD

03-18-2006, 02:58 PM

Here's a cover I really want:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SPAWN-BLACK-WHITE-rare-issue-1-Mcfarlane_W0QQitemZ6612415902QQcategoryZ17079QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

It's the rare B&W Spawn #1, I really want it for rarity.

Here's my favorite cover though, it's Spawn #100 by Frank Miller, this is a wallpaper of it:

http://www.digital-burn.com/desktop/39

edit: speaking of the Hulk #181. i just saw this thread taichi, holy crap

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285086

Taichi

03-18-2006, 08:32 PM

link's broke, what's was it?

BEWD

03-18-2006, 09:02 PM

Guy had like 6 copies of Hulk 181, one autographed. He's a rich boy, is planning on spending 5,000 on a mcfarlane art piece.

Taichi

03-18-2006, 09:08 PM

Damn....prolly the guy who bought my copy!

I sold it at the Pittsburgh ComiCon in Y2K

maxx

03-19-2006, 12:12 PM

well adam warlock isn't in annihilation...i know one srker thats gonna be pissed.

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA06/Marvel/civilwar.htm

Adam Warlock

03-19-2006, 12:52 PM

What the fuck? I will eat Joe Q and shit his head out in the shape of a pretzel for this bullshit.

RoninChaos

03-19-2006, 05:04 PM

I actually like the Red Hood. It brings an interesting dynamic to Batman. Especially since Jason Todd is basically Batman if he went over the edge. Batman 650 was AWESOME because of the dialogue.

*spoilers*

When he was like "Bruce, I forgive you for letting me die. But why is HE (pointing at the Joker) still alive?"

The way he said it just really sat with me. I like how they flipped it and Jason said, what was basically along the lines of "If he'd killed you, I would have hunted him down to the ends of the earth and killed him".

I really thought that was well done. Winnick's run has been one of the most exciting in Batman's comics for quite some time.

*end spoilers*

box

03-19-2006, 05:42 PM

Oh my god.

Ultimate Universe will crossover with the Squadron Supreme Universe????

Gayest idea ever.

Taichi

03-19-2006, 06:19 PM

Y'know, I'm pretty Anti-Winick when it comes to the Titans and Green Arrow/Lantern, but he seems to be doing Batman the way Batman should be done.......

I was one of the last people who wanted to give him a chance (I'm sick of people writing comics JUST because they're famous), but I think he's really earned his keep lately......

tho, I still disapprove of him injecting the Titans, and Green Arrow (and especially the name of Speedy) with his Activist Agenda.....

Rage02fire

03-19-2006, 07:37 PM

Oh my god.

Ultimate Universe will crossover with the Squadron Supreme Universe????

Gayest idea ever.

Well would you've prefered Ultimate marvel to crossover witht the Reg.marvel's universe??

I think not my friend.:wink:

It's not as bad as it looks though, since the squadron supreme univerese they're going into is a brand new created by JMS. So I guess you can call his univerese of Squadron supreme/power the ultimate verse of it.

I may not check all of it though since bendis is said to be one of the writers.

I will check out loeb's and JMS's run on the crossover.

Now on the anhiliation choice not to have adam warlock in it well, Joe Q kinda got pissed about that too, he said there may be something single for him later on this year or next year that we may see him in. Will see though if Joe will make us happy or more pissed off.

I really don't understand why the cosmic writers think they use Adam Warlock too much.

I think sliver surfer gets more used then Warlock in the Cosmic events imo.

maxx

03-19-2006, 07:47 PM

.

I think sliver surfer gets more whored then Warlock in the Cosmic events imo.

fixed.

thanks to srk's adam warlock i wanna read adam warlock now i'm mad.

Nemesis00

03-19-2006, 07:54 PM

New Punisher ongoing coming out of Civil War. The return of the War Journal, and Frank's reintroduction into 616 land.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6926

archetype

03-19-2006, 11:58 PM

i don't read batman but jason todd is back? WTF anyone care to explain pls?

maxx

03-20-2006, 12:06 AM

i don't read batman but jason todd is back? WTF anyone care to explain pls?

oh its all bullshit you really dont wanna know. but is has to do with how super broken superboy prime is.

Sano

03-20-2006, 10:13 AM

i don't read batman but jason todd is back? WTF anyone care to explain pls?

Speedy explanation:

Jason Todd's corpse + Lazarus pit = Jason Todd back.

FreddyL0c0

03-20-2006, 10:33 AM

weird....

i thought the Max versions of supreme power/squadron supreme were in a sense Ultimate versions of the old series........does that mean they are going to re-revamp the crew again?????? damn.

if not, and its a mix of the current series with the Ultimate universe, then its gonna be worse.

P. Gorath

03-20-2006, 10:44 AM

yeah, the punisher war journal news is interesting. I wish they would use his classic costume though to further differentiate it from ennis's work.

I've now finished all of the countdown to IC trades except for one (death and return of dt...which doesnt really count) and here is my best to least best ranking

1. Day of Vengeance - best concept, coolest characters, great art
2. Omac Project - countdown to ic included in trade is great, first couple issues are great, ending is a little weak
3. Villains United - catman grew on me
4. Superman: Sacrifice- interesting reading a superman book, story is interesting but a little weak
5. Rann-Thanagar War - didnt really dig it too much. Carter didnt have much of a role, Kyle Rayner didnt seem to act like himself. ending was really lame
6. JLA: Crisis of Conscience - felt like mostly filler. a few good moments with zatanna

maxx

03-20-2006, 10:56 AM

Agmaster

03-20-2006, 08:01 PM

So Nova basically == Green Lantern? As in universal cops.

Wellman

03-20-2006, 10:00 PM

So Nova basically == Green Lantern? As in universal cops.

But with obviously less power.

archetype

03-20-2006, 10:12 PM

FreddyL0c0

03-20-2006, 11:50 PM

earth x is too awesome....time to read universe and paradise x now

maxx

03-21-2006, 06:04 AM

I think Jason Todd should have stayed dead like Barry. It cheapens it in a way. I would like to prolly pick that up to see how batman and Todd interact.

Edit: I just read GL Corps Recharge I enjoyed it a lot. I liked the story, it had a sci fi feel to it.

well its not like its a driving factor for bruce. it only served him as bruce's truly only mistake in his life. lol now bruce has no mistakes he's fuckin infalliable.

Taichi

03-21-2006, 10:19 AM

What's the big deal with Kavalier and Clay?

I just started reading it, and it's slow going, but it's won all kinds of awards, and everybody seems to love it......

so, I started it, but when does it get good?

TheDarkPhoenix

03-21-2006, 11:29 AM

Adam Warlock

03-21-2006, 11:35 AM

so I just picked up the trades of supreme power 1-3...I was looking around and saw this squadron supreme stuff too? which looks fairly similar?

Can anyone break down how these book work? Is SS a spin off of Sp?
SP is a retelling of the original SS universe. SP is done and now the new SS picks up where it left off.

box

03-21-2006, 11:37 AM

Well would you've prefered Ultimate marvel to crossover witht the Reg.marvel's universe??

I think not my friend.:wink:

It's not as bad as it looks though, since the squadron supreme univerese they're going into is a brand new created by JMS. So I guess you can call his univerese of Squadron supreme/power the ultimate verse of it.

I may not check all of it though since bendis is said to be one of the writers.

I will check out loeb's and JMS's run on the crossover.

It's still pretty bad. Supreme Power Universe and Ultimate Universe just don't mesh IMO. It's like Punisher crossovering into the Archies (which actually happened).

TheDarkPhoenix

03-21-2006, 12:49 PM

wow just read supreme Powers 1-5!

Good stuff!

Zephyranthes

03-22-2006, 12:09 AM

FreddyL0c0-
I wouldn't get too excited about Universe X and Paradise X. I remember I found those pretty disappointing. They don't really suck, but they relied on a lot of Marvel Comics knowledge on esoteric subjects. So they're like, Earth X to the next degree, only with worse art and more confusion.

---
Taichi-
Kavalier and Clay is like the quintessential Great American Novel. I didn't think it started out slowly or anything, so I guess you just gotta keep on reading unless you feel like giving up. Hopefully as you keep reading, you'll get into the lives of the protagonists and get a feel for their world and their relationships. Plus the whole novel is a love letter to the comics art form and you get a great sense of history in the story. The Dark Horse Escapist comics are really nice, too, for further reading that doesn't even require prior knowledge of the novel.

The Bucket Of Truth

03-22-2006, 01:11 AM

It's still pretty bad. Supreme Power Universe and Ultimate Universe just don't mesh IMO. yeah ultimates would be better off facing 616 universe imoIt's like Punisher crossovering into the Archies (which actually happened).dude link that shit right now

archetype

03-22-2006, 01:33 AM

I read Lex Luthor man of steel again. I really enjoy this book. The art is so nice and lex is a beast. I like they way they drew superman to seem so evil and such a threat. Like through the eyes of Lex.

FreddyL0c0

03-22-2006, 01:56 AM

FreddyL0c0-
I wouldn't get too excited about Universe X and Paradise X. I remember I found those pretty disappointing. They don't really suck, but they relied on a lot of Marvel Comics knowledge on esoteric subjects. So they're like, Earth X to the next degree, only with worse art and more confusion.

.

no shit, im half-way through reading paradise x, and it seems each issue brings a new ever confusing twist and exagerrated event. the only thing ive liked so far is the mephisto twist. Im hoping its all going to tie in together somehow.

tomorow (as in technically today, but whatever), squadron supreme hits the shelves!!!!!!!!!!!

P. Gorath

03-22-2006, 10:15 AM

currently reading Avengers: Operation Galactic Storm volume 1. It's been a pleasant surprise so far - most of it is really fun. The first Wonder Man issue (part 4) was especially hilarious (this was during the whole wonder man in hollywood as a struggling actor thing). Kree-Shi'ar is much less dull than kree-skrull. And seeing people like the avengers west coast (making cracks about why dont they call the other guys avengers east coast) and USAgent just bring a smile to my face.

I also went ebay crazy and ordered some new trades that came out this month, most notably The Rebirth of Thanos and seven soldiers vol. 2

Taichi

03-22-2006, 10:15 AM

Anybody been picking up the super-cheap, super-thick "Showcase Presents" Series?

I have the first Green Lantern Volume, and was pawing through it last night......

really good stuff!, some of it is extremely off the wall, and Gil Kane's aliens are just fun to look at, but man, it's cool to read early Silver Age stuff!

True Fact: Barry and Hal forged a friendship that is still legendary in comics......but did you know, on their first meeting, they FOUGHT?, Hal gave Barry Encephalitis!

TheDarkPhoenix

03-22-2006, 11:50 AM

How many issue of Supreme Power are there? So far ive read 2 trades 1-12 and ive got to say its some of the best stuff ive read in awhile.

box

03-22-2006, 12:51 PM

Dark Phoenix: There are 18 issues of Supreme Power. And 1 issue of Squadron Supreme which is the follow-up. Squadron supreme was just released today.

There are also 3 mini-series spinoffs from Supreme Power. Doctor Spectrum; Hyperion; and Nighthawk. Each of the series is 6 issues.

I picked up Amazing Spider-Man, New Avengers and Squadron Supreme. All of them were good pickups... however I still wish Squadron Supreme was on the MAX line instead of Marvel Knights.

Nemesis00

03-22-2006, 06:48 PM

Iron Spider count!

New Avengers 17
Amazing Spider-Man 530

P. Gorath

03-22-2006, 07:09 PM

ordered more IC-tie in trades...damn there are a lot of them

DA GAME

03-22-2006, 07:31 PM

Is All Star Batman & Robin & AS Superman out yet?

Pained Auron

03-22-2006, 07:33 PM

ares kicks ass

Taichi

03-22-2006, 07:42 PM

Just so everybody knows, you can subscribe to the entire "52" event at dccomics.com, for $100!

Wellman

03-22-2006, 08:43 PM

ordered more IC-tie in trades...damn there are a lot of them

Isn't there going to be close to a dozen once all said and done?

You got RT War, VU, OMAC, DoV, Donna Troy, Sacrifice, JLA: CoC, IC itself, TT/Robin detailing the TT parts in IC, Superman, Wonder Woman, 52 when it finally released (in who knows how many TPBs) and a few of the announced stuff such as the Battle for Bludhaven.

It has got suck to be a DC completist right now.

Anyone know how is Squadron Supreme by the way? Worth a pick up if you enjoyed Supreme Power or what?

FreddyL0c0

03-22-2006, 09:01 PM

Anyone know how is Squadron Supreme by the way? Worth a pick up if you enjoyed Supreme Power or what?

Its alright, nice intro to all the characters that were first brought up in the Hyperion mini. Though, I get the feeling that Stracynski kinda holded back on the language. He already plants the seeds for the Nighthawk turn....possibly into the Ultimate dimension, ala the original Squadron Supreme's altercation with the Avengers.

New Avengers was blahhhh. I wanted to buy X-factor 5, Hulk 93, Nextwave 3, and Ares 3, but they were all freakin sold-out. Got to check another comic book store now for these issues.

box

03-22-2006, 10:07 PM

New Avengers 17 basically was a better rehash of New Avengers 16. They should have just skipped 16 and went straight to 17. Both issues were just hyping up this super powerful Entity.

I'm really liking Ron Garney's artwork on Amazing Spider-man.

freddy: Straczynski had to hold back on the language. Squadron Supreme isn't part of the MAX line like Supreme Power was. I think this was a bad move on Straczynski's part.

FreddyL0c0

03-22-2006, 10:33 PM

New Avengers 17 basically was a better rehash of New Avengers 16. They should have just skipped 16 and went straight to 17. Both issues were just hyping up this super powerful Entity.

freddy: Straczynski had to hold back on the language. Squadron Supreme isn't part of the MAX line like Supreme Power was. I think this was a bad move on Straczynski's part.

so thats why we dont even get to see Amphibian, or whatever her name is naked in this issue. Damn, why give it a parental advisory tag in the first place anyways.

and I agree with u about New Avengers 17. Instead of giving the fans a very pointless preview of Squadron Supreme (which i dont think could actually intrigue people into buying it if they knew nothing about it beforehand), they could have used those pages to kill alpha flight and alaska in those 4 pages and voila.

The whole protecting the ghetto cities speach by Cage was probably the best part of the book, solely cause it builts up Cage more so than before, while giving us random shots of spidey in his new costume just so that Bendis can seemingly flaunt it. k i was being sarcastic....honestly....that whole segment was pointless, isnt this issue supposed to deal with the collective? so why spend half a book on something completly irrelevant to the main story at hand.

another thing that annoyed me is how Spidey approached Alpha Flight's death in a joking manner, seemingly to plug his new costume even more. Listen, its not cause im canadian myself and im ANGRYYYYYYYYYYYY because they died.....hell no. Its moreso cause Bendis portrayed Spidey in a bad un-humane fashion with his line, and i quote :

"Oh boy, if the entire team of alpha flight got their canadian bacon handed to them....im worried that this going to be one of those things where my shiny new iron spidey deal isnt going to be all that"

ill admit though, that last page has me intrigued to buying the next one, damn Bendis and his cliffhangers.

Zephyranthes

03-22-2006, 11:35 PM

I think Bendis said something like, "Alpha Flight isn't dead, they're just napping." In that little editorial in New Avengers #17, he also mentions that Alpha Flight will get revamped during the Civil War. I kinda liked the Alpha Flight series that came out one or two years ago. I think Scott Lobdell was the writer. It musta gotten cancelled after 10 or 12 issues, but I thought it was pretty entertaining. Kinda like Dan Slott's She-Hulk, but maybe not as awesome.

I don't know what's up with Mike Deodato's art. This latest issue of Avengers looked kinda shoddy compared to his usual work. When he first started on Amazing Spider-Man, his art was really detailed and realistic, with a hint of flashiness. Now this latest issue of Avengers has some muddied figures and distorted proportions. It didn't look as good. Maybe it was a rush job because McNiven had to go do Civil War; maybe it was just the inker.

I read the new Squadron Supreme today. It was pretty good. I skipped out on the Hyperion and Nighthawk minis, but I didn't feel lost at all when I read Squadron Supreme. It didn't seem to really be missing too much from its lack of MAX content, either. Sure, there's no more Kingsley nudity and no swear words, but in this issue, neither was really called for. At least that story about the killer who ripped off hookers' arms has already been told; it woulda been disappointing if they had to water that one down.

Daredevil kicked much ass. It was the most exhilarating comic I've read since the last issue of Daredevil. For those of you who wait for the trade, I highly recommend that YOU DO NOT LOOK AT THE COVER OF DAREDEVIL #83. Now of course once I say that, someone is gonna go Google the image and see what's what.

Some of the 1 Year Later comics were kinda interesting, too. I checked out the Catwoman and Robin issues. They weren't mindblowing, or anything, but they were fun. I enjoyed reading them at the store. I just don't think I would pay full price for the issues, is all.

Pained Auron

03-22-2006, 11:50 PM

you know, as soon as i saw that spoiler warning about dd, i did quite the opposite of what he said NOT to do. eh not like i read it anyway. picked up a few issues today. slight spoilers ahead

seems like they are getting rid of minor bat-villains since they're offing one per issue. i liked how the regular citizen's reactions where shown after the bat signal was up in the sky again.

planet hulk was even better than the last issue. hulk grabbing stone man and slamming him into enemies was great. can't wait til the next issue comes out (sadly they didn't have any 2nd printings of hulk 92)

x-men was umm weird. i liked the art right up until the last page; when the new death is revealed. he looked too fat.

didn't really read all of xfactor. might drop the book since sook is gone.

picked up superman 650. great issue. johns is the man.

then there is ares. i will admit. i was VERY skeptical about the series when it was first released. then i pretty much pulled an AS:S (said "fuck it" and bought the book) now while the art isn't that great, (still better than quitely's) the story is very good. ares is one crazy sonofabitch. i can't wait to see him reallhy go all out in the next issue/

wasn't all star superman 3 supposed to be released last week? wtf dc? GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!! omac one shot, the all star line (ok 2 books), and their top moneymaker IC have ALL been late. granted i can't just fault dc. marvel is late with their shit as well. but since it's the ultimates that is constantly late, it's excused. hitch needs to get that shit drawn right

archetype

03-23-2006, 01:11 AM

Im prolly going to pick up supreme powers next time.

Adam Warlock

03-23-2006, 05:26 AM

There are also 3 mini-series spinoffs from Supreme Power. Doctor Spectrum; Hyperion; and Nighthawk. Each of the series is 6 issues.

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Hyperion is 5 issues and I think nighthawk was 5 issues too. I'll have to check at home.

I'm not digging Squadron Supreme as of yet.

TheDarkPhoenix

03-23-2006, 08:03 AM

I really like Sp its good stuff, prob on of my fave lil series now.

I'm look up the mini of hyperion, Nighthawk, and Dr S.....

I need to go back and get all the trades for the exiles now starting where hyperion was going crazy and killing everyone. That was good stuff.... I think its like 5-6 trades since then... I'm have to break big bread....

FreddyL0c0

03-23-2006, 10:47 AM

Ares ------- My pick of the week

runner up ---------- Hulk 93. Great issue as well......

Nextwave was fun as well, just not as funny as the last two issues.

X-Factor was blah, I dunno, the art rubs me the wrong way.....it worked so well with Sook.

Sano

03-23-2006, 01:12 PM

Minor Spoilers:

Last Amazing Spider-Man issue was good. It was funny how the editors of the book were fighting in the comic about civil war with editor's notes, the arguments about which side is right is already starting, lol!

Spidey's new robot suit can change to be the old red and blue, even the black and white. Not that it will so they can ram the red and yellow down our throat for now.

Gambit is down with Apocalypse, he's the Horseman of Death. He volunteered for the gig feeling that Apocalypse had the answer for the severe lack of Mutants right now.

Batman OYL is nuts... Harvey Dent a hero with a normal face what the... can't wait to find out how this happened.

Got the X-men Chris Claremont/Jim Lee trade. Now I don't have to go to my old books whenever I want to check these books out again. Mainly X-Men 1-3.

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff... at work so I can only skim the thread now.

Carpet Lint

03-23-2006, 01:32 PM

1 Year Later - I've only read Detective Comics and Batman, but this is looking stupid. I like how I have completely no motivation or compulsion to discover what happened during that year. It's all just very disinteresting. Doesn't help that this new Batman story line sucks ass.

Also, the explanation for Jason Todd coming back may have been the worst of all time. Uh...Superboy punched a hole in the time space bubble prison thing...and so Jason Todd spontaneously came back to life? Yes, makes perfect sense. Just stick with the industry standard of IMPOSTER and be done with it.

Heck, they could have just skipped that part and gone with Talia or Ra's digging him up and throwing him in the pit. And wasn't there an issue of Batman right after the Red Hood showed up that had him going around and eliminating the pits as one of the reasons? Such a stupid explanation.

Mainstream DCU has been completely ass for the last long while.

Though I agree that Winnick's run on Batman has been pretty enjoyable. I thought Doug Manke's art was perfect for Batman too, but they've switched him off it now for some reason.

It's odd that the two guys that were supposed to stay dead forever in Bucky and Jason Todd both came back at the same time, in the same way, and yet...the stories have actually been pretty good.

___________

I don't know what's up with Mike Deodato's art. This latest issue of Avengers looked kinda shoddy compared to his usual work. When he first started on Amazing Spider-Man, his art was really detailed and realistic, with a hint of flashiness. Now this latest issue of Avengers has some muddied figures and distorted proportions. It didn't look as good. Maybe it was a rush job because McNiven had to go do Civil War; maybe it was just the inker.
I didn't really like his Amazing Spider-Man that much - maybe because it was such a big style difference from JR^2, but it has definately gotten a lot sloppier lately, both in Amazing and in New Avengers. The inks don't fit it at all, but the overall art's getting worse anyway.

Why do they need so many artists on this book? Is it not possible for one team to work on a title for more than six months any more?

And what's the deal with your avatar? I don't get it.

_____________

THE SPIDER-COUNT

1) Amazing Spider-Man #529
2) Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #2
3) Amazing Spider-Man #530
4) New Avengers #17

THE SPIDER-POOL

1 - Tantinny - ELIMINATED
10 - VSY
30 - Shengy
35 - abacabby
42 - Shinny
43 - Zephy
45 - Nemy
47 - Rony
49 - Warlocky
50 - Dammy
52 - Welly
53 - archy
67 - THE LINTSTER

You know...it's not that bad of a costume.

Zephyranthes

03-23-2006, 02:23 PM

The thing I've noticed with DC's 1 Year Later stories is that all of the ones I've read seem like advertisements promoting 52. There are all these unexplained changes in the status quo and the first issues don't explain how anything got to the way it is now.

For example: how and why are Gordon and Bullock back on the force? How did Batman and Robin get back on good terms? Why did Robin get a new costume that more closely resembles that of Batman's? Who is the father of Selina Kyle's child? If Holly is the new Catwoman, as seems obvious, why is the writer trying to keep up a pretense of mystery about the new Catwoman? How the hell is the new speedy Captain Boomerang a part of the Outsiders? What happened to Shift? Etc, etc.

None of the issues released so far explains any of this. I'm sure some of these will be explained as the various series go on, but I bet for a lot of those answers, we'll have to read 52. And that's frickin' annoying. It's like the writers think it's so clever of them to tease the audience with their secrets. It would be more entertaining if I knew that I wouldn't be required to read 52 religiously just to find out what happened in Hawkgirl and in Catwoman and such.

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What's the deal with my avatar? Nothing, really. I just got tired of whatever it was that I used to have. So I've been changing it up lately. I guess right now it's just the album cover to the Hard-Fi album, Stars of CCTV. Pretty minimalist artwork; it's nothing compared to the power of Raul Julia Bison or the Walmart Happy Face humping a filing cabinet.

ChairHome

03-23-2006, 02:30 PM

I'm actually pretty excited about 52. I know I've become a DC fanboy, and I don't care, haha.

As for OYL, the only ones I'm going to be interested in are Flash and Teen Titans. I just picked up Robin OYL, and I'm digging it. I like the artist, and the story so far is interesting, they say they're going back to his detective roots. As for the other OYL, I can't say its anything that interesting right now...

Taichi

03-23-2006, 03:42 PM

Sano, Harvey had a normal Face in "Hush", did he scar himself back up afterwards?

if not, chances are, he's been that way since Hush.....

Sano

03-24-2006, 10:56 AM

Sano, Harvey had a normal Face in "Hush", did he scar himself back up afterwards?

That's right, I forgot all about him getting his face fixed in Hush. Guess it just stayed fixed, thanks!

ChairHome

03-24-2006, 11:45 AM

Soooo... I just read this from Kryptonsite.com:

The character of Chloe Sullivan, first introduced on Smallville, will be headed to comic books in the new continuity following DC Comics' Infinite Crisis.

Reports from the Wizard World convention in Los Angeles reveal that Superman comics editor Matt Idelson says that there are plans to incorporate Chloe into Superman's four-color world.

What could this mean for Chloe on Smallville? The idea that "she dies before the end" could finally be put to rest, for one thing...

We'll let you know when and if we hear more.

Click here to read the full convention report at Comic Book Resources

UPDATE! A recap of the DC panel at Wizard World posted at Newsarama.com reveals there have been some mixed signals at DC. Here's what they say: "Asked of Chloe from Smallville will ever appear in the DCU, [Dan] Didio and Superman editor Matt Idelson had different responses. Didio said there were no plans, but Idelson followed his response and said there actually were some plans." Since Idelson is more directly involved with Supeman than Didio, who oversees everything, hopefully that means he is the one who is correct.

What the? Chloe may be introduced into the Superman comic world?

Zephyranthes

03-26-2006, 10:37 PM

Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya were both created on Batman: The Animated Series before they were introduced to the DC continuity. I think Livewire (electric chick supervillain) was also created on Superman: TAS.

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I watched V For Vendetta on Saturday night. It was an entertaining movie... The story was really, really dumbed down for a mass audience, though. But at least they did justice to the Valerie sequence, which is about I all really hoped for.

Tantin

03-26-2006, 11:20 PM

THE SPIDER-COUNT

1) Amazing Spider-Man #529
2) Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #2
3) Amazing Spider-Man #530
4) New Avengers #17

THE SPIDER-POOL

1 - Tantinny - ELIMINATED
10 - VSY
30 - Shengy
35 - abacabby
42 - Shinny
43 - Zephy
45 - Nemy
47 - Rony
49 - Warlocky
50 - Dammy
52 - Welly
53 - archy
67 - THE LINTSTER

You know...it's not that bad of a costume.

Isn't it the closest without going over? How am I eliminated?

ChairHome

03-27-2006, 06:31 AM

Isn't it the closest without going over? How am I eliminated?

Well, let's see: you guessed one issue.

The costume has been seen in about four issues now.

In math, four is greater than one. Or in mathematical terms: 4>1.

Now taking into account what you have said, that the winner would be the closest without going over, you, in fact, have gone over. You see, going back to part 2 of this proof, you'll note that 4 is greater than 1. 3 more than 1, if we want to be precise. That means that Spider man has worn the suit for precisely 3 more issues than your initial guess of one. So, you have gone over.

I'm an ass.

FreddyL0c0

03-27-2006, 08:33 AM

Adam Warlock

03-27-2006, 08:35 AM

actually Tantin, I think ure right, solely cause u took it into account that it was "the price is right style" right?

basically, if there's 9 new costume appearances,Tantin wins.........well thats what he and I thought anyways.
Carpet Lint specified early on that Price-Is-Right is not the style we're using. You have to guess it on the money exactly. Reading is fundamental.

archetype

03-27-2006, 09:34 AM

did anyone pick up the annihilation comic? I didn't start reading it yet but it looks cool. Also I picked up All star superman 1 and 2, Supreme Power vol 1 and vol 2. The comic dudes in the store said it was hot. Also they have this thanos comic trade that shows thanos coming back from the dead and punking out the silver surfer, then he goes to each of the gem weilders and takes it from them. it looks cool.

Sano

03-27-2006, 10:06 AM

Soooo... I just read this from Kryptonsite.com:

What the? Chloe may be introduced into the Superman comic world?

There was talk of Chloe being added to the comic book long ago. So long ago I assumed they did it already...

Yeah, Livewire was created by the cartoons and then added to the comics. There is also talk that Mas y Menos from the Teen Titans cartoon might be added to the comics. Check TT director Jones' post.

http://forums.titansgo.net/viewtopic.php?p=251805#251805

EDIT: Hey, did yall see Spider-Man's black costume in the new movie? Symbiote or fashion style change?

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/

Carpet Lint

03-27-2006, 11:46 AM

What's the deal with my avatar? Nothing, really. I just got tired of whatever it was that I used to have. So I've been changing it up lately. I guess right now it's just the album cover to the Hard-Fi album, Stars of CCTV. Pretty minimalist artwork; it's nothing compared to the power of Raul Julia Bison or the Walmart Happy Face humping a filing cabinet.
As long as we're all clear on that.

And while we're (not really) on the subject, I'd just like to point out that wussy-probably-made-for-women Canadian indie music > ROCK AND/OR ROLL ALL NITE American indie music.

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Carpet Lint specified early on that Price-Is-Right is not the style we're using. You have to guess it on the money exactly. Reading is fundamental.
This is correct.

At first we wanted to run it Bob Barker style, but then that wasn't exactly fair since we had so many people guessing such similiar numbers after each other. For instance, it's not really fair if the first number guessed was 43, and then people started to join in and guessed 42, 45, 47, 49 and whatever. That's like in Price Is Right when there's this bitch that guess $631 after the guy before her guessed $630.

So then I said just the closest - but then that would leave the door open for ties, like if the final number ended up being 48. In which case...who would win all of our anal virginities? Adam Warlock or Ronin Chaos? Both? Fuck that.

When the stakes are so high, we must have exact winners, or none at all.

Actually when we changed it to exact, I asked Tantin if he wanted to change his number since he guessed with the assumption that I was Bob Barker. But I guess you must have missed that post.

So if it's acceptable to all the participants involved, we can change Tantin's magic number to 9. Or lower, if he wants.

Since everyone's banking on numbers in the 30's and the 40's anyway, and VS guessed after Tantin (I think), I don't think there should be any issue with this...?

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So. Comics.

Has anyone ever considered the unique time frame that a comic book nerd lives in?

See, back in January or something, I was wondering when the next 100 Bullets trade would come out. And so the Vertigo website said VOL. 9: STRYCHNINE LIVES comes out April 26. And at the time, that was like three months away, and I was all like "Ah man, that's like three months away."

But now before I know it, I've wasted away three months of my life and it's almost April. And that caused me to have a little mini-religious experience.

Leading me to ponder a bit concerning the METAPHYSICAL RAMMIFICATIONS OF COMIC BOOKS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR LIVES. Bear with me here.

Our time frames are so stretched out. If you collect a five issue story arc together and read it through, you're done in like...what, half an hour? But in reality, it took five months - like 150 days.

What happens in five months in comics? The JLA gets beat up by white martians and they come back and hit them with the moon or whatever.

Now what happened in those five months of your life while you were reading that JLA story? That's like a semester of school, you could have hooked up with a girl and dumped her already (though since we're talking as comic book nerds...maybe not), got a new job...five months is a damn long time.

Five months in comics is nothing compared to five months in real life. It's like fucking hypertime or some shit.

I can still remember when I first saw the cover of Batman #608 - the return of Jim Lee to monthly comics (AND ON BATMAN!!!) - in the solicitations magazine. And regardless of how good or bad Hush was, I remember AT THE TIME, that I was so excited about the book. If SRK's General Discussion archives weren't scrubbed, there might still be records of what we were talking about back then.

Can you remember what you were doing back when you were reading a big comic book story like that? Batman #608 (I'm using it as my personal example since I pick it up monthly) came out in October 2002. That was like FOUR YEARS AGO. I think I just started university.

And now I'm almost graduated, and I've lived what could be the most meaningful/important four years of my life. And tons of crazy shit has happened in my life - I got different friends, I live somewhere else, I look completely different (...I'm taller...I guess), I'll killed six hobos with my bare hands, I don't play with Shuma Gorath in Marvel Superheroes anymore...

FOUR YEARS!!!

Now look at Batman. Motherfucker hasn't aged. What's happened in between Batman #608 and Batman #650 or whatever it is now?

Hush, Broken City, they had that brief Dustin Nguyen run with Matt Wagner covers, War Games/Crimes, and all that Red Hood tomfoolery.

So what's that? That's nothing. I can remember it all off the top of my head.

Batman hasn't aged four years. That's like...what, months to him? That's not fair at all.

Do you understand that when you hold a twelve issue trade paperback in your hands, that's like holding an entire year's worth of work in your hands? That's like 365 days of stuff. You could be a completely different person now than you were when that first issue printed.

A trade paperback is like the closest thing there is to holding TIME in your hands.

...well 'cept for something more practical like a photo album or something.

But now when I look at my big long boxes of comics, I see fucking TIME, man. I remember picking up my first issue.

...Which wasn't THAT long ago since I only started seriously getting in comics in the first couple years of highschool.

I'm rambling now, but think of how much change happens in your life - especially in your highschool and college years - and think of how much change happened in your favourite comic book in the same time frame.

And it's so odd because you never really notice it. It's not that strange to you that you have to wait thirty days for the next issue, and New Avengers #1 came out like a year ago.

It's like a completely different frame of mind, a completely different time frame when you're dealing with comic books. That "part" of your life ages so much slower than the rest.

...I think I've run out of things to ramble about now.

Thank you for taking this trip with me while we looked at METAPHYSICAL RAMMIFICATIONS OF COMIC BOOKS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR LIVES.

Next week, we can discuss the finer points of shoplifting comic books.

Tantin

03-27-2006, 07:30 PM

No, I'm good.

ChairHome

03-28-2006, 06:12 PM

A couple new previews: Brave New World and Flash (only three page preview)... The speed force is apparently still gone, OYL...

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/June06previews/previews.htm

Preppy

03-28-2006, 06:30 PM

Whoever recommended NextWAVE : genius. I'm really appreciating the new "lightweight" Marvel titles after all the boring-to-me-crap running through a lot of the other books.

Ellis' Oceans, Ministry of Space, and Desolation Jones (sadly) all seem like misses. Fell and NextWAVE should be near-mandatory, though - best things I picked up in a while.
I've liked Justice so far, but think it will read much better as a TPB.

I'm intrigued by Marvel's "New Universal" - it was random to see a new issue of DP7. :smile:

I went into Bedrock City in Houston when I was down at TS6 and was stunned to see that they both had Miracleman single issues AND the Watchmen portfolio for sale (for $20!). If you're in Houston, buy that - the art is awesome - I posterized about 12 prints from mine.

DeathScythe

03-28-2006, 06:33 PM

"The first casualties of the next war. MY war." <------ :rofl: :rofl:

Good God, the Flash has the tendency to suck hard after this one year later nonsense. I always thought letting Geoff Johns go was a bad idea. The Flash needs him back.

Also, Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters is looking damn good just from that one page(art wise that is).

I'd also like to say that Ed Brubaker's run on Daredevil so far is the greatest thing Marvel has out right now. Especially Captain America.

Spoiler:

Sharon Carter and Steve Rogers in the sack......again!!! Could this be it? Lets hope. Cause after the Winter Soldier events Cap needs to really relieve himself.

maxx

03-28-2006, 06:37 PM

that flash art is fugly. the speedforce will return...i think they got rid of it so its easier on the tv writers since they had no speedforce back in the day.

P. Gorath

03-28-2006, 06:57 PM

started reading teen titans/outsiders: death and return of donna troy tpb. this is my first exposure to teen titans/outsiders/young justice(?!?) in comic form. the last time i saw donna troy she was a darkstalker and dating kyle rayner. the first 3 books of the tpb were really good but im not feeling the first issue of the part mini yet.

Zephyranthes

03-28-2006, 07:23 PM

And while we're (not really) on the subject, I'd just like to point out that wussy-probably-made-for-women Canadian indie music > ROCK AND/OR ROLL ALL NITE American indie music.

I guess so. Canada's got New Pornographers, Arcade Fire, Bell Orchestre, Wolf Parade, etc. But America makes up for it with the fact that Pat Lee and Todd McFarlane are both Canadians. That makes Modest Mouse and the Flaming Lips sound all that much better.

So. Comics.
Has anyone ever considered the unique time frame that a comic book nerd lives in?

. . .

Can you remember what you were doing back when you were reading a big comic book story like that? Batman #608 (I'm using it as my personal example since I pick it up monthly) came out in October 2002. That was like FOUR YEARS AGO. I think I just started university.

And now I'm almost graduated, and I've lived what could be the most meaningful/important four years of my life. And tons of crazy shit has happened in my life - I got different friends, I live somewhere else, I look completely different (...I'm taller...I guess), I'll killed six hobos with my bare hands, I don't play with Shuma Gorath in Marvel Superheroes anymore...

. . .
Thank you for taking this trip with me while we looked at METAPHYSICAL RAMMIFICATIONS OF COMIC BOOKS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR LIVES.

Groovy rambling. Are you a lit major or something? It's okay if you are, 'cause I was an English major. Anyway, I pretty much agree with all you said. Pre-Batman #608, I used to use Sabretooth/Shuma Gorath/Captain Commando in MvC2. How times have changed.

Comic book time passes at a slower rate than real life so generations of people can enjoy the same characters in their prime. I think that's something that can hinder stories because it's hard to care about a story when you know that nothing will change. But at the same time, the fact that these characters rarely change does enhance the romantic aspect of the comic book for me. And by "romantic," I ain't meaning "lovey dovey I wanna whack off on you." I'm talkin' 'bout the fetishizing of the aesthetics of comic books themselves, or some such bullshit I used to remember when I took those English courses.

Never mind that. It's just fascinating, when I think about it, how so many characters have been through so much over the past 20-30 real years of stories and they've only aged a couple of comic years. The slow passage of comic time is one of the things that reminds me of the pulp roots of comics, and how disposable so many of these stories are. And I don't mean that in a bad way, either. How do I explain this... Let me think.

Okay, so sometimes I like to go to a comic shop and dig around in their quarter bin. I'll come across comics that are absurdly old-school. I'll come across comics that I used to own when I was a little kid. I'll come across comics that I vaguely remember from a year or two back. And I can't help it, but sometimes I feel compelled to buy some of those. Most of the time I come away with some crap garbage story that I'll forget as soon as I've read it. And then it goes on my toilet reading material pile in the bathroom.

But see, that's the joy of comics!!! I love how I can pay 25 cents for a little magazine with pictures and words, and just enjoy it no matter how stupid it really is. It could have crappy art, shoddy plotting, dated dialogue, OMAC Project tie-ins- but it only cost me a few cents and I got to kill some time and just not think about real life for a couple minutes. Cheap comics are so good. That one dollar Countdown To Infinite Crisis book seriously brought me Infinite Crapper Pleasure.

Well, I have no idea how I ended up talking about the things I like to read when I go poo, but I guess I just needed something to do while I wait for Clinty to teach us the arts of comic book shoplifting.

maxx

03-28-2006, 07:34 PM

lol i swear to god tim drake has gone up and down in ages since i discovered him.

when weiringo drew him circa 96 he was like 13

then young justice i thought he was 16-18

now he's just like 13-16

wtf?

Wellman

03-28-2006, 09:12 PM

Oh shit, The Hood returns. Also Marvel is getting lazy as hell with naming these events and trying to cover up the "mystery" key players in them.

Beyond (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=64644)

Taichi

03-29-2006, 12:55 AM

Gorath: Young Justice was a pretty good book, actually......really solid read, great characterization, and funny as all get out.....

not to mention, it was written by Peter David, and drawn by Todd Nauck (Teen Titans Go!)

good stuff.....but it was high time those characters graduated to a more 'serious' title.....so I'm quite glad they're the new Titans......

abacabb

03-29-2006, 01:04 AM

i just started reading the infinite crisis (i know im mad late) there is so much reading to be done. its making my head spin.:looney:

box

03-29-2006, 01:01 PM

Don't forget to count the Spider-Man Arana comic in the Iron Spidey Armor count. I went to the comic store today and saw him on the cover with his new costume.

Also I saw in the previews that he'll be donning the armor in an upcoming Marvel Team-up issue.

Picked up Soulfire, superman/batman and new avengers illuminati today.

Haven't read em yet. But i'll give my thoughts later.

Taichi

03-29-2006, 01:22 PM

Carpet Lint

03-29-2006, 03:18 PM

I guess so. Canada's got New Pornographers, Arcade Fire, Bell Orchestre, Wolf Parade, etc. But America makes up for it with the fact that Pat Lee and Todd McFarlane are both Canadians. That makes Modest Mouse and the Flaming Lips sound all that much better.
Wolf Parade is fucking nuts - blows my mind. There's also Death Cab For Cutie, Broken Social Scene, Stars, Neverending White Lights - we got a lot of mellow, wussy indie music. We're the industry leaders.

I find it incredibly hard to get into non-Canadian indie stuff though, since I'm not THAT much into music so if it doesn't appear on Canadian radio, I probably haven't heard of it. I'm lucky to even know the little Canadian indie stuff I do. It's entirely possible you know more than I do. So yet again...Zephy trumps me at my own game.

Though I still maintain that the Spice Girls were absolutely fantastic.

STOP right now
Thank you very much
I need somebody with a hu-man touch

That's fucking awesome, right there.

They had Spice Girls gum, Spice Girls games - should have had a comic book. (SEGWAY)

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I find that the best way to shoplift comic books is to tuck two thin ones into the same bag and board.

Hypothetically. I mean I've never tried it, but I imagine that would be the best way.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

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Don't forget to count the Spider-Man Arana comic in the Iron Spidey Armor count. I went to the comic store today and saw him on the cover with his new costume.
This one?
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=3977

That doesn't look like the new costume to me - are you tripping on mushrooms again, box?

What about the interiors? Did anyone buy the Spider-Man & Arana Special for $3.99(!!!)?

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Tons of books this week - my wallet is definately lighter. Haven't had time to read through them though, but my boys Black Bolt and Thanos are back in business baby!

All-Star Superman #3 too, should be sweet.

And I think I see Batgirl's shadow on the cover of Robin. Good enough for me!

All I need is for Beta Ray Bill to show up in Annihilation and for the Taskmaster to appear in...any book, I don't know how.

I saw Psylocke on a couple of X-Men covers though...but she's dead to me now. Nothing is worth checking those books out.

Now I'm off to see my beloved Raptors (minus Chris Bosh) get raped by a Flash and Steel team-up. Maybe my boy J'ONN J'ONZZ THE MARTIAN MANHUNTER can drop 48 again. You know only three other rookies have scored that much in a game? Iverson, Jordan, some guy I don't remember the name of, and now J'onn J'onzz? AWESOME

Not a bad day for Carpet Lint. I'M WALKING ON SUNSHIIIIIIINE YEEEEAAAAAAH

box

03-29-2006, 03:26 PM

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This one?
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=3977

That doesn't look like the new costume to me - are you tripping on mushrooms again, box?

What about the interiors? Did anyone buy the Spider-Man & Arana Special for $3.99(!!!)?

No dude.

This one over here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview.php?image=previews/marvelcomics/spidermanarana/SMARANA001_COV.jpg

I don't think anyone will fork over 3.99 for this garbage.

Here's the full preview: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6808

Here's the Marvel Team-up one that will be released in June:

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=4286

Adam Warlock

03-29-2006, 03:44 PM

I find that the best way to shoplift comic books is to tuck two thin ones into the same bag and board.

Hypothetically. I mean I've never tried it, but I imagine that would be the best way.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

No, the best way is to place them so that the bottoms are held by your pants/belt, with your jackey or shirt hanging over. Poor kid that I was I became quite adept at this. I would read comic while holding a stack, turn and hide them, and continue reading in seconds. I never got caught in the act, but one time, a guy followed my best friend and I from the store for blocks. He must have been a ninja because no one was around us, but when we pulled them out he just appeared and was like "Give those back right now!" and took them lol

Nemesis00

03-29-2006, 05:05 PM

Ah, what a wonderful Wednesday, and one of the best days in comics I've had in a while. Let me review the books I picked up on this glorious day. Oh yes, there will be spoilers.

I started off my pile by reading the New Avengers: Illuminati special while on the john. I have no "Bendis is shit" joke, because I like Bendis. I liked this book. Yes, he gave away a little too much info on first issue of Civil War, most of which we already knew, but it was fairly well done, and explains why Fury is still showing up even though he's gone underground. LMDs!

Now onto Fantastic Four 536, otherwise known as the return of DOOM! Had this issue not have been hyped up, it would have been a great surprise, as the final page showing Thor's hammer in the crater was beautiful. Not much is givev away, but maybe there will be answers next month.

The Sentry is a very good mind fuck, and there's more to it then we're being led to know. Jenkins is a sneaky British bastard.

X-Men Deadly Genesis brings to us the return of a depowered Xavier who can now walk.

Books of Doom shows us more of Doom's thoughts. The armor being a barrier from the outside world is a very nice idea.

The 65th Anniversary Special of Captain America was breathtaking. Brubaker really is one of the best Marvel writers. The final page was too scary for words.

The Thing is probably one of the best books being put out by Marvel. Why? Because Ben Grimm leads us further down into the Marvel universe, as we see him deal with his wealth, youth, and Paste Pot Pete. Did I mention Thing's old buddy Sandman returns? Well, he does.

maxx

03-29-2006, 05:16 PM

Tim is 17 after OYL.....I have the issue he turned 16.......

ya dont expect that to work.

seriously for heros in highschool age doesn't work. like bruce and clark its ok but in high school you know theirs 4 years for them..tims been in high school longer than i was in middle/high school and college put together.

Taichi

03-29-2006, 05:19 PM

No DC on that list, Nem?

Maxx, I know that.....Hypertime is a bitch to figure out......

but something tells me things are gonna shake up before long in the DCU.......

I don't think the fans would be too adverse to letting Bruce give the Mantle of the Bat to Dick, for Dick to give the mantle of Nightwing to Tim, and for Tim to give the mantle of Robin to someone new.......

Nemesis00

03-29-2006, 05:27 PM

Don't read DC.

Taichi

03-29-2006, 05:28 PM

Bah, good writing....

but I can't blame you, I won't touch Marvel, likely for the same reasons.....

maxx

03-29-2006, 05:29 PM

tim will never be batman its not in his current nature unless something drastically changes

dick is destined to be batman

batman is destined to never fuckin die.

i doubt tim will give up the mantle of robin..look wut happened to the last chick.

i want spoiler back...she was like robins catwoman it was cool.

Taichi

03-29-2006, 05:44 PM

Dick is Destined to be Batman, and it may actually happen, DC has been in a progressive phase, and you never know......

I know many speculate that DC would never retire Bruce, but all it'd take is one good writer, and a suitable 'stunt' to do it, and that'd be it.......

of course, eventually, the fans would piss and moan, and they'd reverse it (like they reverse EVERYTHING), and that's a damn shame, but alas.......

and I never said Tim would be Batman.....

I believe Death in comics should be final.....that's my opinion, I'm so sick of 'em being resurrected all the time....

if a character dies, they should stay dead, I don't care how popular they were, or how loved......if I ran a company, editorial policy would state that there is no way, no matter the powers at work, the powers of characters, character's popularity, etc. to bring a dead character back from the dead.....if they go into a grave, they stay there......if the body isn't recovered, and they're declared dead, they stay dead..........and no fan complaint can reverse editorial policy........

maxx

03-29-2006, 05:58 PM

Sheng-Long

03-29-2006, 07:00 PM

Good news to anyone from Toronto:
Chester Brown (Yummy Fur, Louis Riel) is going to be the Toronto Public Library's Writer-in-Residence for April-June. More information here: http://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/pro_wir.jsp
He'll be critiquing manuscripts and he is also holding a workshop on June 3rd.

I started off my pile by reading the New Avengers: Illuminati special while on the john. I have no "Bendis is shit" joke, because I like Bendis. I liked this book. Yes, he gave away a little too much info on first issue of Civil War, most of which we already knew, but it was fairly well done, and explains why Fury is still showing up even though he's gone underground. LMDs!

I just finished reading it and I loved it. I won't spoil so I'll just discuss details next week.

I also have no bendis jokes, but there is this one....

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Onslaught/OnslaugthReborn.htm

maxx

03-29-2006, 07:03 PM

i bet that heros reborn is an april fools joke.

DA GAME

03-29-2006, 07:25 PM

DA GAME has a question about Superman/Batman.Did issue #24 ever come out?If so what happened & how did it end?

Zephyranthes

03-29-2006, 07:46 PM

Wolf Parade is fucking nuts - blows my mind. There's also Death Cab For Cutie, Broken Social Scene, Stars, Neverending White Lights - we got a lot of mellow, wussy indie music. We're the industry leaders.

Death Cab are American. But they are from a small town in Washington state, so that's basically Canadian, I guess. I forgot to mention Broken Social Scene in my other post, though. But you're right, I should have namechecked 'em to show off my indie rock knowledge.

I guess the Raptors lost again, but I feel your pain, son. At least the Raptors made the playoffs in the past 12 years, unlike the Warriors. Speaking of basketball, does anyone have or remember the Charles Barkley Vs. Godzilla comic? Dark Horse published it back in the nineties. I passed up a chance to buy it when I was a kid and I've been kicking myself ever since; I really want that!!

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Today, I picked up the new Dead Girl, the Captain America special (I don't know why- it'll probably get collected in a future hardcover; I guess I'm just really patriotic), and the new Marvel Romance Redux. I haven't read those yet, but I'm sure they're all good. That Romance Redux stuff just tickles me to death; I love the concept of taking cheesy old comics from bygone eras and just rewriting all the dialogue and text. Makes for some pretty funny stuff.

I read the New Avengers: Illuminati thing, and I thought it was pretty dang good. It was a great talking heads story and I really liked the tension in some of those scenes. However, someone is gonna have to clarify for me just what Black Bolt meant on the second to last page.

Fantastic Four was okay. I dig McKone's art. Teen Titans got weak once he stopped doing it. That page of Illuminati that was thrown it was pretty blatant marketing, but I guess Marvel is trying to catch up to DC.

Deadly Genesis was tight. It's rip-roaring X-Men yarn that is probably worth buying as a collected edition. They shoulda just gotten Pete Woods to draw the main story, because he draws circiles around the main artist. Every issue of Deadly Genesis is like 22 pages of dark, generic superhero art followed by 8 pages of invigoratingly drawn vignettes.

Books of Doom, I also liked. I forget if I even read issue 4, but today's issue was still good and I wasn't confused or an