Arbitrary taunting: Am I alone?

[Goutetsu]

Playing SF3 : Third Strike on X-Box live is trying sometimes, especially when 'The Uber-lag' rears his unwanted, hideous head and my usually pretty tough Oro is transformed from “Golden God” to “Bonus Stage Free For All”. Largely I don’t mind being trashed by scrubs if lag is to blame. You take your beating and find somebody else to play against. Easy?

Well, no. Because some spacker, waving from the safety of a redneck bypass somewhere on the Information Super-Highway thinks it’s funny to taunt me at the end of every round, irrespective of the accident of that victory. These shit-kickers aren’t comfortable enough take the chance mid-game, to hit the respective two keys in the heat of combat, but come that universal ‘You Win’ logo they become as confident as a drunkard in a Kebab eating contest. And it drives me WILD! So much so that I feel compelled to retry, to beat seven shades of plop out of them the next round. But the resulting blood loss from my brain causes my eyes to turn to such a blurry shade of crimson that I either outright lose or pass out with rage.

Am I alone in this, or does everyone else find this as infuriating as I do?

[Colt Steele]

I find it irritating but only to a point. People will inevitably throw the "you got pissed over that? get a life scrub" defense into the arena as an end-all excuse. I myself find it hard not to do because it's a habit I picked up from the DC days, but really not many people mean anything by it. If it is rattling you then I might say they've got a pretty good strategy for unraveling your game.

But then many who defend it with something like "it's nothing it's just a game" or "I like teh animationz!!!11one" or even the golden "it's a stat boost you fuckin n00b" will never bust it out mid-match, contradicting themselves. Personally I don't care anymore whether it happens.

Anyway, the best thing for you to do to live with your issue is just quit out and blacklist someone who does it if it still disturbs you. Mainly the people who I get that from online are random Ken/Chun scrubs who are certified pros since they can poke and cr. forward xx super in lag. Let them have their moment if it makes them happy.

[Goutetsu]

If it is rattling you then I might say they've got a pretty good strategy for unraveling your game.

You're so right, it hurts. Thanks for replying.

[Arcas V]

i honestly dont get why it makes ppl upset, some taunts arent really taunting...... ok if i have chun or ken i will almost never post game taunt. but if i have makoto or alex, whats the big deal? all alex does is stretch, thats taunting? if i do it, its only cuz its better than just standin there doin nothing. ppl like ibuki and yun have "taunts" that are no more taunting than doing a simple punch. i mean seriously, even if they are taunting u, would u rather have someone yelling into the mic "u got owned, u suck, u should just kill urself." i dont do it anymore only cuz bc i saw someone on here complain about it but thats just how small of a deal it is, i stopped doin it with out even thinkin much of it.

[Edieman]

Goutetsu: Add me to your FL - I'm in the UK so mr. lag shouldn't rear his ugly head. I don't taunt as I know it pisses some people off.

[Don Calzone]

The only taunt that pisses me off is Chuns, cause she is so damn annoying. Bitch...

[The Orphan]

There are only a few times I'll taunt. I'll taunt if I just got a perfect on someone, or if the person was picking the same character repeatedly i.e. Ken and then I pick him and whoop their ass, then I taunt. Otherwise the only times i taunt are with Q or Akuma and I'm sure everyone knows why.

[KneelB4Me]

Goutetsu arent you the guy who chooses Gill all the time? Im sorry if I am wrong, I havent played in quite a while. Its just the name seems familiar.

Anyway, I know taunt can be annoying in some cases. Im in London if you would like to play. Im not very good, I rotate mostly between Oro, Yun and Ken.

Edie, youre back! LOL :smokin:

[Colt Steele]

i mean seriously, even if they are taunting u, would u rather have someone yelling into the mic "u got owned, u suck, u should just kill urself." i dont do it anymore only cuz bc i saw someone on here complain about it but thats just how small of a deal it is, i stopped doin it with out even thinkin much of it.
I think the people that he's talking about it that do it habitually are the ones either without a mic or that don't use it, and that's their primary way of dissing their opponent. Anyway the animation itself isn't really the problem, it's the implied "you suck" behind it that some people take offense to.

At least that's my impression since I've done it myself to people that won't put down their Ken crutch or someone that only relies on full screen shit in lag to get ahead. I take naps on fools with Oro, stick Necro's tongue out, pump Hugo up, whatever, just to make a statement, either during the round or after.

[Mikee_Showbiz]

it's the implied "you suck" behind it that some people take offense to.

That's what winds me up about taunting. I don't mind better players taunting me if they are genuinely better players who are skilled enough to bully me around at will. Good for them. They can do what they like.

But if someone taunts after scraping a victory against my piss poor Twelve? Now -that- shit winds me up no end. I know it shouldn't but it does. And so I end up picking Yang and doing the hair flick at every possible opportunity in the next match to prove a point. It's stupid, I shouldn't do it but I can't help myself.

I never, ever taunt first. IMO it's a stupid thing to do if you've just scraped the round against a better player and a blatant lack of disrespect for someone genuinely trying to learn the game.

[Mikee Scrubiz]

Well it's just rude isn't it? I rarely do it unless someone's taunted me first, especially as Ken (fecker) and he does it as the start too (as part of the opening).

The other housemate likes to use taunts as a complement, of course this gets taken the wrong way and we're all hated.

I wish there was a some sort of 'congratulations taunt', y'know when you get totally biffed that you're shocked/impressed/gob-smacked and want to pay respect. I tried to do a sort of 'bow' by crouching and standing quickly, but that just makes you look like a spa.

[Arcas V]

i guess its just a state of mind thing, cuz ive been playin xbl since unreal championship, ive come across more rude, stupid, racist, and igonarant ppl than ever. so when i play sf and someone does a taunt, i dont even think twice about it, i just dont care. i know in halo 2 when some one says that im somethin i dont even want to say, it bothers me for a few seconds, but i know i cant let it get to me, that person lives far away, and chances r i will never play him again (and they say this crap regardless if i win or loose, atleas in sf u have to win to post taunt).

im just tryin to say, dont let it get to u, theres worst things ppl can do (and i wont do it anymore). it if ignor the stupid ppl, ur xbl experiance will be much better, trust me.

[ddmwolf]

Can not believe that tauting is such a big deal on live. When I used to play offline it was done all the time and nobody really cared at all. I just do it to see the funny animation truth be told. I taut all the time after a match, there is no disrespect at all just what I do, almost can not help it.

[Schmull]

Can not believe that tauting is such a big deal on live. When I used to play offline it was done all the time and nobody really cared at all. I just do it to see the funny animation truth be told. I taut all the time after a match, there is no disrespect at all just what I do, almost can not help it.

Same here. I've been trying not to recently though, since some people apparently take offense. I taunt when I play offline against my brother and when I play against people on my friendslist who I've played a lot too. And it doesn't really matter if they're better than me or the other way around, it's just for fun :smile:

Have to agree with Jazzt though, Chuns taunt is kinda annoying :razz:

[Burning Ranger]

Okay, I'll admit it: I used to taunt after my wins--but the reason is that initially, I played with the mindset that I was still playing 1-player, even if it was online. Normally, I don't taunt even in arcades, but when I play solo, I like to taunt because theres a little bit of cool-factor in it (strike a pose after a nice combo, for example).

Now, I rarely taunt. If I taunt, then it's when my opponent taunts first. If I come back and kick his ass, I taunt then, just to return the favor.

Sometimes, when I'm feeling goofy (playing just for fun/shits'n'giggles) I'll shout into the microphone "THIS IS THE PART OF THE MATCH WHERE WE TAUNT!" I'll also on occasion do the subtle Halo taunt (repeated crouching). I wonder how many people actually get that.

[ParryAll]

I only taunt after wins if:

I am playing a mediocre Ken, Chun, or Akuma, and I am using "low tier".

Why do I do this? Because it sends a message that you need to stop whoring the top tier. Just becuase Justin Wong is a god w/ Chun Li doesn't mean you will ever be. The game has 19 selectable characters, each character is so different and wonderful it is a goddamn shame everyone uses the same characters over and over.

Actually, if these people experimented w/ the other characters they'd win more, because everyone knows how to kick Ken's ass (esp. a mediocre Ken).

I remember when I first got on live, in November, there were all kinds of interesting Necros, Oros, Dudleys, Makatos, Remys, Elenas ... Now it is all Ken. If Ken don't work, Ryu, if Ryu don't work, Gouki, if that don't work, they leave.

So I taunt the shit out of these crappy tier whores after and usually during fights.

[Arcas V]

Can not believe that tauting is such a big deal on live. When I used to play offline it was done all the time and nobody really cared at all. I just do it to see the funny animation truth be told. I taut all the time after a match, there is no disrespect at all just what I do, almost can not help it.
thats how i feel, i did taunts even to the AI, but ofcourse i didnt mean anything lol.... sometimes i just did somethin like ryu's taunt if it was a good game

[True_Tech]

i just beat them and do it back in both rounds and if i can in the round while playing too

strong,fierce xx taunt with ken is tight

[heXonyou]

taunting during a match makes your character stronger.....so why would you NOT do it??? Taunting after a match is obviously rubbing it in.........but who really cares? Get over it, taunt back, whatever.......it's all fun anyways

[Burning Ranger]

taunting during a match makes your character stronger.....so why would you NOT do it??? Taunting after a match is obviously rubbing it in.........but who really cares? Get over it, taunt back, whatever.......it's all fun anyways

I thought that only worked with Q...

[The Orphan]

I thought that only worked with Q...
No dude it's with almost anyone. IMO it's essential for Akuma since he's so goddamn weak. But check it out in training. If you taunt with most people it will make their next move hurt like a motherfucker. For Q it doesn't make him stronger but it raises his defense.

[Outkast]

Tuanting is fun, come on now.

It pisses me off too, makes me want to beat them worse so I can taunt back, ownt... :nunchuck:

LAtes,
Mike

[Colt Steele]

Can not believe that tauting is such a big deal on live. When I used to play offline it was done all the time and nobody really cared at all. I just do it to see the funny animation truth be told.
That is where Live complicates things. Offline you do it, it's a joke, especially with your friends or people you know and play all the time. Online you do it, the guy's not next to you, chances are there's no mic chat going on.

I'm done with the subject, since I've already stated my stance on it, but I'll give an example that might make it clearer why some people get pissed:

a)You're drinking with your buddies, you're playing darts for fun, one of them bumps you as you toss it, sticking it in the floor. It's a joke, you both laugh, maybe you sucker punch his shoulder. That's offline.

b)You're drinking at the same place, playing the same game of darts with some random person that joined your game. He bumps you as you throw it, then flips you the bird. You don't know the guy, it's all of sudden pretty insulting. That's online.

I take it as a joke anyway since I just like SF, and most people that do it aren't being insulting about it(I don't think ParryAll's example applies to me because I don't use the top 3, even in roster rotations), but I can also see why a bloke just might take it wrong as well.

[ssj2jeff]

only time i taunt at the end of a round is if i barely beat a good player after or i get a really crazy come back. i remember taunting in game actually helped me win a match. when this ibuki player was running away throwing shurikens and i had a tip a life left. i taunted and he saw that as an opening tried to attack me and i counter attacked him and won.

[Goutetsu]

It’s all about context to be honest, and an adherence to an etiquette I assumed us ‘elitist gamers’ would be happy to indulge. In hindsight, one I’ve clearly fabricated myself.

I don’t actually mind if people taunt me mid-match – not even with flip-you-off Ken. It has strategic advantages, both in game and out. It even makes me chuckle, and either amplifies my concentration or fragments it so my whole game goes to hell. It’s a tactic, and I get that.

But there’s something wearisome about a player who feels the need to do it without fail (or justification) at the end of every round. It nullifies the point of the taunt, which exists either to show humorous, ironic recognition for a narrow victory, or to acknowledge ones own skill at either having achieved a ‘Perfect’ or for doing something equally as worthy i.e. parrying a super before claiming the win. And not forgetting to show your utter, gut-wrenching contempt for anyone who only picks Ken, and still can’t use him.

Largely the people who do it are scrubs - plain and simple. And that’s really where my anger was born, and still lies. And it’s a stupid little thing that I need to get over. I just wanted to see if I was alone in the matter, and I’m pleased to find out I’m not. I still don’t think the talented players should feel the need, to be honest. But if they choose to do so then that’s their prerogative. I don’t have to like it, but I sure as hell don’t have to respect it either. At least with talented players I can be sure they won’t drop when I get my due revenge. Pretty sure, anyway.

[Goutetsu]

KneelB4me : Goutetsu arent you the guy who chooses Gill all the time? Im sorry if I am wrong, I havent played in quite a while. Its just the name seems familiar.

God, no! I don't even have access to Gill on the X-Box version. I have Live, why would I even bother with the single-player? I'm suspecting that this other guy 'Goutesou', who's apparently ranked high in CVS2, is the guilty party. Trust me to pick a gamertag inseparable from a Gill-wielding, no hoper.

KneelB4me : Anyway, I know taunt can be annoying in some cases. Im in London if you would like to play. Im not very good, I rotate mostly between Oro, Yun and Ken.

Sounds good to me. Just add me to yours friends list. Look forward to some lag-free matches. Love your avatar, btw.

[Arcas V]

hey Goutetsu i think my connection dropped on u today (was that u?) but if it was, sorry about that... i owe u as many wins as u want!

[Goutetsu]

*Laughs* If it happened by accident, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. If it happened on the cusp of victory, I'd go check on your family if I were you.

Here's hoping we'll get to rack up some matches in the next few days to make up for it.

[True_Tech]

No dude it's with almost anyone. IMO it's essential for Akuma since he's so goddamn weak. But check it out in training. If you taunt with most people it will make their next move hurt like a motherfucker. For Q it doesn't make him stronger but it raises his defense.
cancel that almost everyone gets a stat boost when they taunt just some are different

[Arcas V]

*Laughs* If it happened by accident, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. If it happened on the cusp of victory, I'd go check on your family if I were you.

Here's hoping we'll get to rack up some matches in the next few days to make up for it.
so it was u lol..... well i thought it was a gg and trust me im not a dropper.... i could care less about my rank, hell if u want, u can just get 20 free wins. but my connectioned failed cuz i didnt realize my brother was on halo2. but anyway, hope to see u on xbl and play some more good games (i actually wanted to keep playin u). :tup:

but werent u the one that let me get free hits after u found out i wasent playin the first half of the round? if so that was mad cool :tup:

[Agmaster]

Play Guilty Gear. Taunting end match is dangerous.

[KyPeN]

Like aforementioned, it all depends on context. For instance, if it is the first match, and we have a close match, then he kills me (say by crushing for example) then taunts, thats crap. Same if the person completely annihilates me then taunts at the end of the match. It's like saying "I'm better than you, just too much of a pussy to taunt during the match."

Sometimes, when that happens, I will pick a different character, completely beat the shit out of them (not often, but it happens), while taunting 5 times during the match and at the end of each one. Then they drop. Go figure.

[One Hit Combo]

Was it Guilty Gear that had "Respectful" and "You Suck" taunts at the end of the round depending on the direction pressed in addition to the taunt button? I can't remember.

[der Liam]

there's a time for post-round taunting. i *might* do it for example if i perfect or i win after coming within chip damage of death. there are cooler things you can do after a KO though, like dash under the timer or over your opponent's corpse or whiff a really cool normal like hugo's cr.HP.

taunting just because you won a match is just asking for it, how do you know you're playing their best fighter... wait for them to switch and see if you get another chance to pull that crap.

[yellowCOWARD]

I usually only taunt at the end of a match if the combo that killed them was real nasty like ryu's EX thrust kick -> EX hurricane -> HP Shoryuken corner combo....or if they taunted first then it's usually all match after all knockdowns.

[vansaykeo]

I alway taunt in the middle of the match no matter who I play online. I do agree that taunting at the end of the match is stupid if you barely win, but that kind of thing don't get to me.

[ddmwolf]

Well when I did play alot offline back in the old days I taunted all the time even when I did not know the people I played. Nobody seemed to mind atleast that I could tell. And I used to play at Southern Hill Golfland when it was open in Stanton Ca. where some of the best players in the country were at the time. I taunted when I played them, never beat them that much but I taunted when I won. Hell they taunted all the time if I remeber right. But I could be wrong was a while ago. It was all in fun, I find it funny that people seen to take online play more serious then casual offline play. They are the same thing right. Hell is should be even more fun you did not have to pay 25-50 cent to play the game. Just the thoughts of an oldschool gamer who have been there from day one take it for what is worth.

[PhilipKao]

taunting after you've won a super laggy round, or if you won with Gill, is just :lame:

before, that pissed me off and I wanted a rematch, but now i leave anyways.

ZeroTollerance,

If I run into you again with good connection, I will hand you your ass - this you will learn. :tdown:

[ddmwolf]

ZeroTollerance

Is just a dumb ass that likes to talk shit when he plays too. Just beast him a couple of time and he will just run away like a girl. Too bad because he is a pretty good player. Not great but good but not to fun to play becuase he likes to talk shit over live which I have no problem with but the stuff that came out of his mouth made not sense at all. If his trash talk was funny that would be fine but he sounds like one of those "SPECIAL" kids that has to wear headgear. That is how stupid he sounds over live.

[Projectjustice]

I think taunting in the end of a match when you barely win is coming across the wrong way. When I do taunt at the end of a close match is cause Im cheering on my end of the line. Im yelling saying yes and woohoo that was awesome and whatnot, since I dont use headset no one can hear me so I cheer with my character. I only taunt a lot with Q since you get a defensive boost from it that completely changes his game.

[der Liam]

some taunts also just look dumb as hell after the match. like dudleys who throw two roses after KO because the victory pose is the same as the taunt...

[PhilipKao]

ZeroTollerance

Is just a dumb ass that likes to talk shit when he plays too. Just beast him a couple of time and he will just run away like a girl. Too bad because he is a pretty good player. Not great but good but not to fun to play becuase he likes to talk shit over live which I have no problem with but the stuff that came out of his mouth made not sense at all. If his trash talk was funny that would be fine but he sounds like one of those "SPECIAL" kids that has to wear headgear. That is how stupid he sounds over live.

I agree with you except for the part that he's a pretty good player - he's not. He's a countering turtle cause he's know I'll punish him if he misbehaves - that wuss. He has the nerve to taunt me after winning one laggy ass match after I owned his mom for 5. :rofl:

[ddmwolf]

As I said good not great. To say that he is not atlease good is wrong IMO. I have seen some shit S and SS players online that do nothing but abuse the hell out of lag. Hell alot of them do not even know how to mix thing ups with basic highs, lows and throws. Sure he is a turtle but atlease he had some of the basics down unlike alot of people I have seen on live. Still an ass with the brian and the mouth of a 12 year old but not a total shit player. Is he as good as his rank, HELL NO

[The Chef]

So people taunt at the end of a round, just to taunt you (no pun intended) and get you to challenge again??

Sounds lame, but you seem to be saying it actually works against you, lol
End of round taunts are just taunts.. they only anger you if you let them.

[PhilipKao]

So people taunt at the end of a round, just to taunt you (no pun intended) and get you to challenge again??

Sounds lame, but you seem to be saying it actually works against you, lol
End of round taunts are just taunts.. they only anger you if you let them.

I can tell the difference when someone taunts - if they want to challenge me again, push me to play harder, etc. fine thats all sportmanship.

but i just don't like the attitude of someone winning by intolerable lag and/or Gill and having the nerve to brag about it - thats all. some people are just great examples of that - but they wont get no more than a win off me again.

has worked in the past not no more, I leave anyways.

[rockmanx4]

I do taunts on specific situations. with ken,dudley, and urien :tup: and they are a form of a set up.But i won't give away my secrets:cool: i mean no dis at all :tup:

[aiy1tm]

I kill people with taunts. Just to ruin their day.

I've only done it with Elena, Sean, and Ken.

Makoto is just too damn slow about it, even the best setups are avoidable.

And I blow with Necro, so that never came up.

[nothing]

I only hate it when people do Q's taunt. It makes that bastard hard to kill after 3 of them.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I always used taunt after just about every match, but then I started to stop because some people take offence to it. I mean, i usually don't mean it to be rude, I just like doing them, it's almost like impulse. I will taunt people who only use one character, whoever it may be, or a person that picks a bunch of people, and manages to beat me with whatever character, and then keep picking that same character thinking it's a guaranteed win with that said character. I usually have my cycle of characters I use(Chun Li, Remy, Yun, Alex, Urien, Yang and Ken) but I'm not good with all of 'em, but who cares. I try not to taunt with Chun Li unless, I beat some random "S" guy badly, and know he's just been sharking around......then I taunt with Chun li. Always.

[Arcas V]

now that i stopped, i just dash back and forth or jump around lol... but then ppl r gonna take offense to that :confused: lol

[TheShend]

Your not alone! (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2317224&postcount=1504)

[nothing]

I love trying to get an extra hit or two in after the KO.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I love trying to get an extra hit or two in after the KO.

Yeah, that's always fun. When the character doesn't die by being knocked down, and just crumples, I'll hit them wih a lp or lk.

[Goutetsu]

Wow. I should start threads more often.

Since this kicked off, I've actually seen less end-of-round shenanigans than usual. In point of fact, I've seen next to none. Largely I'm guessing that's due to a string of good luck, but it's nice seeing people who feel similar to me on the matter. Once in a while is fine, but let's not lose our heads. Keep it simple, keep it safe.

Instead of taunters, I've just had a string of droppers to get my blood-temperature rising. Five - count 'em - five drops in succession, and all from different, faceless wankers. Death to you! Death to the false SF players of man!

My stick has busted up nicely too, so anyone who plays me in the next few days might want to exploit the following weakness - I can't crouch diagonal left. Later guys.

[stripes777]

i have to admit the taunting after a round pisses me off a bit too. esp, if they taunted after i won like 10 games and then i pick a random character. usually after they win that 1 game, theyll taunt, and of course, leave without another game. kinda lame

i play yang, and ill taunt too, DURING THE GAME, its a cross up mix up i got!

[lyrical acid]

I taunt because I pick Hugo, and taunts make him harder to kill.