Korean Sticks for Sale (MAYBE??)

[EJM]

I ran across these 2 sites doing a search for CROWN JOYSTICKS. I haven't had time to translate the site using Babel Fish b/c I have to go to work in the next hour. So I'm hoping someone here knows Korean and can inform me about what it says and how to order. If these are legit Crown parts I would definately want to place an order, as I'm sure many of you would too. So I'm thinking a group order if it is legit crown parts.

Here is the site:
http://www.stickstation.com

Joysticks:
http://www.stickstation.com/business2.html

One other site that sells the arcade stick also.
http://www.stick.pe.kr/

Like I said, first of all I'd like to find out if these are the real Crown parts and then is it possible to place an order and ship it to the US?

[Superking]

Well those Korean stick pics look like my Crown Korean stick.

Here's a pic of it.

http://www.destiny3fates.net/PICT0203.JPEG

[laugh]

Those are Korean sticks alright, but both of you have misinformation about their name/manufacturer. They're manufactured by MyungSin, but everyone calls it Fanta stick, like it says on this page http://www.stickstation.com/goods/stick.html in korean (환타스틱). If your stick looks like this one from the bottom (which is 99% likely), then it's Fanta.

I don't know if stickstation ships internationally for sure, but sticknara.com and stick.pe.kr both ship internationally if you email the admin first, probably in korean.

I'm staying in Korea right now, so if you wanted me to, I could send them over. Btw, I'm korean.

Crown kinda lost its position as a stick maker right around late 90's when those green sticks started to dominate in the arcades. They're still top tier in cabinets and buttons tho. Crown still makes several different kinds of sticks none the less, which all have the same green shaft and very different construction on the bottom from Fanta sticks.

PM me if you wanna

[kcxj]

I heard Mago was Korean.

korea korea korea korea korea :rofl:

[EJM]

Laugh,
Pm'd you.
I'm sure many member will probably be interested as well. I have no problem placing a bulk order and parting it out for the US crowd.

[EJM]

The price is 5,500 Korean Won for the sticks which converts to ~$5.50 US Dollars. Is this correct?

[ArC_man]

wow, if that's the case imma order like 500 XXD

[dummyface]

The price is 5,500 Korean Won for the sticks which converts to ~$5.50 US Dollars. Is this correct?


?!?!?!?!?!?!??!??!???!????!???! :wow:

If so i'm down for 4 of them!!!!!

[laugh]

The price is 5,500 Korean Won for the sticks which converts to ~$5.50 US Dollars. Is this correct?

yeah

The stick itself, not the full joystick with buttons and pcbs and all, is 5,500 Korean won. Amazing price, huh? Kinda makes you think about how much other stick manufacturers profit from their sticks.

[lseelba]

Jesus. At that price, I'd love to have two as well. Can you bring back two to the states for me?

[albert_c]

I'm in for a group buy....

[Superking]

Those are Korean sticks alright, but both of you have misinformation about their name/manufacturer. They're manufactured by MyungSin, but everyone calls it Fanta stick, like it says on this page http://www.stickstation.com/goods/stick.html in korean (환타스틱). If your stick looks like this one from the bottom (which is 99% likely), then it's Fanta.



Are you sure about that? Because it has Crown engraved on the battop of my Korean stick.

[laugh]

Well, if it says Crown, then it has to be Crown, huh.

[laugh]

Jesus. At that price, I'd love to have two as well. Can you bring back two to the states for me?

I'm not coming back for a while. End the Korean arcades + chicks combo so soon? go figure

It's turning into a group buy. In this case, who's gonna redistribute them in the states? unless everyone wants to go individual.

[EJM]

It's turning into a group buy. In this case, who's gonna redistribute them in the states? unless everyone wants to go individual.

As stated I plan on buying a few sticks and buttons and I have no problem distributing them to board members. :tup:

[albert_c]

Can anyone show me what sticks and buttons are available? And if there are any special mounting instructions?

[EJM]

Can anyone show me what sticks and buttons are available? And if there are any special mounting instructions?

I'm still trying to work on it and see what we are going to be able to get. But so far it is this Stick, http://www.stickstation.com/goods/stick.html
Mounting appears to bottom mounted like a happ joystick.

And we are trying to get some Crown arcade buttons which are a better quality. No pics yet. He said that the buttons have a real small body, about 11 mm. The size is still unconfirmed. :karate:

[albert_c]

Huh, works like a Happ Super...

I'll keep a close eye on this thread, thanks for your efforts....

[coN]

For those confused about the Korean stick feeling, heres a compilation of posts of mine from TZ & SRK:

"Anyways, Korean sticks use a acuator, exactly like a Happ Super Joystick. Instead of a spring restrictor to snap the stick back to the center, it uses a rubber restrictor. When the stick is brand new, its stiff as fuck. When it starts to break in, it creates a "gummy" feeling. (best word i could think of for the way it feels)"

"Korean sticks dont have a gate. Neither do American sticks. Only japanese sticks have a gate. Korean sticks DO use a rubber restrictor like american sticks use springs to snap the stick back to the center, but the switches dont last longer, the switches last just as long as any high quality Japanese and American microswitches. (Omron and Cherry) US and Korean sticks use acuators.

The bad thing about Korean sticks is when the rubber completely wears, thats it, but that does take a considerable amount of time..."

"When the stick is broken in, when you tap foward, back, down, or up, the stick hits the microswitch, but it doesnt snap back immediately, but it slowly moves back to the center, the gummy sensation i mentioned earlier, but dont worry, the stick throw is like a Sanwa, very short. Although the stick is slowly moveing back to the center, the actuator is back in neutral, allowing you to hit another direction while the stick is going back to center. Because of this, it allows people to light-dash (a wave-dash only faster) in Tekken. (For people who dont know, a WD/LD is executed by doing f, n, d, df, f, f, n, d, df, f very fast repeatedly) With an US or Japanese stick, you have to wait after you tap the foward for it to go back to neutral (if you dont, the dash will not come out at all), whereas with a korean stick, you do not have to wait to start the qcf. Techniques like Hayashida, Lightdashing in Tekken, or Minami Step in VF IMO come out easier on Korean sticks."

Although it uses a acuator like a Happ stick, Korean sticks arent prone to the biggest problem Happ sticks encounter: the sticks "dead-zone". In Korean sticks, its non-existant cause the microswitches are so close to the acuator. All Happ sticks (Competition, Ultimate, Super) have to travel a certain distance before the acuator hits the microswitch (dead-zone), thus activating it. Like a Japanese stick, you will never miss a diagonal with a Korean stick.

To me, Sanwa sticks = #1, while Koreans sticks are *RIGHT* there behind Sanwas, but i would put them together cause theyre both that good."

Laugh - I get sticks from sticknarajin but if you can get korean sticks by themselves, i will order some. As for distribution, if we all do a group order, we would need some who the hardware community on SRK can trust 100% to distribute the sticks.

Also, you can only get green knobs? I have korean sticks with red, black, purple, and dark blue knobs. If you can only get green, thats fine.

[kofiend]

does anyone have info on korean balltop joysticks?

[coN]

does anyone have info on korean balltop joysticks?Dont exist...

AFAIK.

[kofiend]

thats not true, they have balltop joysticks, with switches that look exactly like the pics.

hopefully someone knows a site

EDIT- can those bats be unscrewed?

[coN]

thats not true, they have balltop joysticks, with switches that look exactly like the pics.

hopefully someone knows a site

EDIT- can those bats be unscrewed?
Sorry dude, im 95% sure that ball top korean sticks dont exist. I think your talking about chinese clones. They use a spring, not a rubber restrictor.

And the bat tops on korean sticks cannot be unscrewed.

[kofiend]

o shit you know what? probably is a clone lol

damn, now i want a chinese joystick

[laugh]

For those confused about the Korean stick feeling, heres a compilation of posts of mine from TZ & SRK:



Laugh - I get sticks from sticknarajin but if you can get korean sticks by themselves, i will order some. As for distribution, if we all do a group order, we would need some who the hardware community on SRK can trust 100% to distribute the sticks.

Also, you can only get green knobs? I have korean sticks with red, black, purple, and dark blue knobs. If you can only get green, thats fine.

I can. Distribution wise, EJM seems like he wants to do it, but you guys decide who you're comfortable with. I was fine with him, but you guys have to be too.

Green knobs fo sho. I've seen red and black, but dark blue and purple are new to me, I'll go to the arcade shops tomorrow and take a bunch of pics and what not.

The best buttons to use are the ones made by Crown specifically for use on their cabs. They cost about 50 cents each, all have black rims, and the colors that I always see are red, blue, and yellow. These are snap-ons that mounts onto 11mm thick panels, the button hole is 28mm in diameter, and the buttons have flat top with rounded edges. The best korean buttons around for sure. There's a screw-on (nuts and bolts) type that's not as good as the Crown snap-ons performance wise, just acceptable quality.

In terms of stick construction, there are some Crown sticks that press the microswitches directly with a square plastic at the end of the metal shaft, like competition. I just need a camera with me tomorrow to just show all these.

Can anyone show me what sticks and buttons are available? And if there are any special mounting instructions?

The hole for the stick is either 36mm or 37mm in diameter, and the panel for the stick could be up to 15mm thick. The metal plate on which the stick gets screwed, is 81.5mm x 65.5mm

[SpiffyShoes]

You can put me down for a pair.

[coN]

Ill probably take 3-4 sticks and like 16 buttons. (Snap in)

I am interested in those Korean sticks with Competition acuators. Ill check back for the pics.

[albert_c]

Any updates on the joysticks and buttons?

[EJM]

Any updates on the joysticks and buttons?

Yesturday I asked for 12 joysticks and 100 Crown snap in buttons. I'm waiting for Laugh to reply to see if he is going to be able to get them and also a qoute for the total price including shipping.

I'm sure we are probably going to have to order more parts but this at least gives us a starting point and if we have to we can always add to the order.

[DanSC]

i want one, the Crown arcade stick..

[Tha-Darkside]

Fill me in once you guys have everything sorted out, cuz I'd probly be down to get some parts as well.

[laugh]

Aight, guys. I went out yesterday to the arcade shops to take the promised pictures, without realising that it was May 5th (ha, cinco de mayo). It's Children's Day and it's a Korean national holiday, and they weren't open.

So I just got back from the picture taking, but since I never used the photo feature in my Sony Camcorder, I "accidentally" took all the photos onto the tape and not the MemoryStick. Expect a high quality video of all the pictures in about 40 minutes when I'm done encoding it, sheesh.

I got some more info on buttons, and detailed info on 3~4 different sticks.

-be back soon

[albert_c]

Thanks for the update :)

[laugh]

The video capture was pretty good, so I just captured from the video.

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1.Fanta Stick (MyungShin)

These make up for probably 90% of sticks used in korean arcades. These are good sticks, and since it's completely round and has no corners on rotation, it shouldn't be hard to adapt to. The recent batches of Fantas have been coming out with light blue microswitches (by Deco), instead of the usual brown/black (brown and black are exactly the same, made by LG/=Gersung). After some on spot testing, I found these Deco switches to be a horrible match for Fanta sticks, since hitting corners right was so much harder than the brown switches. I'll just grab the ones with LG microswitches.

pics (took with a used one I had laying around)
Fanta profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_profile.JPG)
Fanta bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_bottom.JPG)
Fanta bottom close-up (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/fanta_microswitch.JPG)
Fanta knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_knob.JPG)
Fanta avalable colors (red and green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_colors.JPG)
LG microswitch side 1 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG1.JPG)
LG microswitch side 2 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG2.JPG)


2.Crown square actuator

This stick was new to me, but from on-site testing, this one had light resistence and it found corners very good. I haven't played on it yet. I gotta play on it tomorrow then. I'm putting so much time into this thing...

pics
Crown square profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_profile.JPG)
Crown square bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_bottom.JPG)
Crown square knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_knob.JPG)
Deco microswitch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_Deco.JPG)



3.Crown round actuator

This one used to be pretty stiff with WONWOO microswitches in the past, but ever since they changed to Deco microswitches, they seem to be light enough. Seems to get corner inputs alright. This stick is NOT popular in the arcades though. I still got a sample for ya'll.

pics
Crown round profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_profile.JPG)
Crown round bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_bottom2.JPG)
Crown round knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_knob.JPG)
Crown round microswitch (prolly no longer in production with this microswitch) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_switch2.JPG)


Here's a size comparison of different sticks
click (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/sticks_size_comp.JPG)




If you want a shaft with a color other than red or green, it probably won't happen. Although I could try to find some real old cabinet with sticks that have orange/black shaft in them and try to swap the shaft with the new one IF they match, you'll have to convince me pretty good to go into that trouble. ;)

pics of some old ass cabs
Cab1 - orange (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/orange.JPG)
Cab2 - black (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/black.JPG)

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1.Crown Snap-on

I like these buttons a lot. These snap onto the Crown cabinets, and the the panel it mounts to has to be 11mm, and the hole is 28mm in diameter. Flat top. The pictures explain it all.

pics
Crown snap-on buttons (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap.JPG)
Crown snap-on bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_bottom.JPG)
Crown snap-on profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_profile.JPG)
Crown snap-on switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_switch.JPG)
Crown snap-on colors (RED/BLUE/YELLOW) I've seen 1 black one my whole life (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_colors.JPG)



2.Crown Snap-on/Screw-on

These can be snap-ons as well as screw-ons. The button quality is just as good as the snap on. I think it snaps to 2 different thicknesses, if you look closely at the profile view. This would work for mounting directly on the plexi as well as any wood. Flat top.

pics
Crown screw-/snap profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_profile.JPG)
Crown screw/snap colors (RED/YELLOW/GREEN) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_colors.JPG)
Crown screw/snap bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_bottom.JPG)

3.Crown Illuminating Buttons

These buttons are just for kicks. It uses a Deco microswitch for the input and 12v for the bulb. Flat top. These light up when you press them. Look

pics
Crown illumin button bottom (hollow) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bottom.JPG)
Crown illumin bulb+switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bulbswitch.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled /w nut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb1.JPG)
avaliable colors (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_colors.JPG)



3.Small Screw-On Buttons
These are tipical start-button-size buttons using switches. 24mm for the hole, I think. Convex top

pics
Small button colors (YELLOW/BLUE/ nasty green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_buttons.JPG)
Small button bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_button_bottom.JPG)

\\\\\\\\\\\\\OTHER INFO\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Here are some extra pics for miscelaneous info.

Crown 203 Cabinet panel top (this is my latest stick project) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_top.JPG)
Crown 203 custom stick bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_bottom.JPG)
You need a black panel like this to make it (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic.JPG)
It's got a comfortable angle (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_angle.JPG)
This is where those Crown-specific snap-ons go (bottom view) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_buttonhole.JPG)
The cradle for the stick (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_stickhole.JPG)
Put a sticker, like this one, on top (I wish they had the Tekken5 sticker, that'd be dope as hell) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker.JPG)
The sticker has all the holes pre-cut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker_precut.JPG)


bonus pics
MVS Catridges (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus1.JPG)
PCBs (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus2.JPG)

[TheRealNeoGeo]

laugh
Is this stick for sale anywhere in Korea:
http://arkadesticks.com/sabi.jpg

[laugh]

laugh
Is this stick for sale anywhere in Korea:
http://arkadesticks.com/sabi.jpg

Probably, but since it says "sabi" in the file name, I think it's an earlier model of SAULABI sticks. I've never seen it. I'm sure it's korean though.

Likelihood of fidning that very stick : don't count on it

[albert_c]

Any luck on the pricing?

[DanSC]

i only interested in this arcade stick..you know how much is it?

[t34]

I too, am interested in maybe buying a stick or two for an "alternative stick."

Question is, how does all these sticks and buttons compare with the current popular parts (Happ and Sanwa)? I hear so much stuff about Happ and Sanwa, I barely hear about K-sticks (Fanta, Crown) and Eurosticks (Suzo). How do these "lesser-talked about" sticks compare with the popular Happ and Sanwa? Better? Worse? Matter of preference? Please share your opinions!

[coN]

I too, am interested in maybe buying a stick or two for an "alternative stick."

Question is, how does all these sticks and buttons compare with the current popular parts (Happ and Sanwa)? I hear so much stuff about Happ and Sanwa, I barely hear about K-sticks (Fanta, Crown) and Eurosticks (Suzo). How do these "lesser-talked about" sticks compare with the popular Happ and Sanwa? Better? Worse? Matter of preference? Please share your opinions!
Youre better off reading my post on Korean sticks on page 2 simply because not too many people have Korean sticks.

[t34]

Youre better off reading my post on Korean sticks on page 2 simply because not too many people have Korean sticks.
My bad, accidentally went over it.

The sticks sound awesome - kind of like a better version of a Super. I was totally going to do a Happ-related project, but after reading this thread again, I'm now totally for a K-style stick. The buttons do not seem so much of an issue. Any ETA on this whole distribution? Thanks.

[lseelba]

Hey Laugh,
How much for the illuminated buttons? Also, are they any good performance-wise? It would be dope as hell to have a stick with illuminated buttons. I'd be interested in a BUNCH of these.

[evilj]

so if i want to lightdash, what's better, a korean stick, let's say fanta, or a sanwa stick with a bat top?

[laugh]

so if i want to lightdash, what's better, a korean stick, let's say fanta, or a sanwa stick with a bat top?

Honestly, whatever you're better with. Isn't lightdash basically like Bison/Sak CC? I'm no tekken player, but I can shoshosho on both fanta and jap sticks about with about the same rate.

check page 2 for lightdash info from someone that knows what he's talking about.

Hey Laugh,
How much for the illuminated buttons? Also, are they any good performance-wise? It would be dope as hell to have a stick with illuminated buttons. I'd be interested in a BUNCH of these.

I don't think I would've used these for main buttons, but I was thinking about using these for start and select though. They look pretty decent performance-wise, but I think it sucks for mashing.

Any ETA on this whole distribution? Thanks.

Ok, here are the pricing for all the parts and shipping costs.

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Any Fanta and Crown stick: $8.50 each
Crown snap-on and snap/screw on: $1.00 each, $0.80 each if you order more than 50 of them
Small buttons: $1.50 each
Illuminating buttons: $2.00 each
Microswitches(w/ or w/o metal prongs): $1.00 each

Shipping a 1kg package to U.S.
- UPS: about twice as much as EMS. varies for different cities
- EMS(fastest): $30.00
- Air mail: $20.00
- SAL delivery: $15.00 (SAL is for U.S., Germany, UK, France, and Netherlands only)
- Air mail for small packages: $12.00
- By boat, it's a little cheaper

Shipping to other countries: not too different from the U.S. list

[laugh]

While I was at one of the shops, I found these among the microswitches.

omron side1 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_omron1.JPG)
omron side2 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_omron2.JPG)
bunch of them (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_omrons.JPG)

These could replace the ones on korean sticks, so I got home and did just that. I put them in Fantas, and because of the difference in the amount you have to press them to 'click', it sucked for Fantas. Here's a vid of a modified Fanta with 2 LG's and 2 omrons.

when-does-it-click Vid, notice the angle metal prongs make with each microswitch when it clicks (http://www.youngsin.or.kr/board/file/sunnyboarddata/compare_LG_vs_omron.avi)

Because of the way Fanta's are made, it works best with LG microswitches due to the fact that they click considerably earlier than other microswitches. You don't have to press so deep to register an input, and that makes the corners and other inputs work nicely for the Fanta. Plus, LG microswitches have stronger resistance, which makes the whole Fanta feel. The Crown square actuator stick works nice with these lighter resistence switches(anything other than LG) though.

If you just have to have japanese microswitches even on a korean stick, then you do have an option to add a buck for each of the switches to replace them with the default ones. Those omrons are few in numbers, because they are just leftovers from a large order from the past.

[KYO84]

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How much for one of these (http://www.stick.pe.kr/order3.htm)? a Playstation2 version.

[evilj]

Honestly, whatever you're better with. Isn't lightdash basically like Bison/Sak CC? I'm no tekken player, but I can shoshosho on both fanta and jap sticks about with about the same rate.

check page 2 for lightdash info from someone that know what he's talking about.





naw man, wavedashing is hard enough on american stick, and lightdashing i've heard is only possible on korean stick.

I can't do those CC's, but I know people who can do that, and can't wd at all. with the CC's you can shortcut it, by doing small qcf's in the corner, with the WD, you haveta go to neutral every time, so it has to be very clean.

I'm semi decent at wding on that tekken 5 hori stick, but not up to the speed where i'm vibrating across the screen.

[t34]

How much for one of these (http://www.stick.pe.kr/order3.htm)? a Playstation2 version.
Yeah, I am curious about this too. I totally dig the case.

Anyways, so I am assuming those Fanta sticks are the norm while the Crown are more niche correct? I am having a little bit of trouble differentiating the Fanta and the Crown. It seems to me that Fanta is the more preferred (not only by it being the 'standard' but also by the way you described the two).

[coN]

lightdashing i've heard is only possible on korean stick.
Sorry dude, but your informant fed you lies... Its somewhat EASIER on Korean sticks. But i know people who can LD on Sanwas and Happ...

[laugh]

How much for one of these (http://www.stick.pe.kr/order3.htm)? a Playstation2 version.

Yeah, I am curious about this too. I totally dig the case.

Anyways, so I am assuming those Fanta sticks are the norm while the Crown are more niche correct? I am having a little bit of trouble differentiating the Fanta and the Crown. It seems to me that Fanta is the more preferred (not only by it being the 'standard' but also by the way you described the two).

Those cost 29,000 Won each, but the shipping within korea is free for orders more than 50,000 Won. So you order 2 sticks, and you save 4 bucks in total.

You sure about the case? 'cause it's probably just sticker with wooden patterns over MDF. I don't think the button layout is that good, but that's about my only complaint about the stick.

Yes, Fantas are the very much preferred. I find these newer Crown square actuator sticks interesting though.

Koreans sticks couldn't be the only stick you can light dash on, and I do the dp motion every time for those CC's fyi. I need to freakin get into T5 while I'm in Korea, instead of playing the same Capcom games all the time.

[albert_c]

How are these going to be distributed? Are we going to have one person here in the states receive the lot then distribute them among us. This would really save on shipping. Or what?

[albert_c]

Those cost 29,000 Won each, but the shipping within korea is free for orders more than 50,000 Won. So you order 2 sticks, and you save 4 bucks in total.

You sure about the case? 'cause it's probably just sticker with wooden patterns over MDF. I don't think the button layout is that good, but that's about my only complaint about the stick.

Yes, Fantas are the very much preferred. I find these newer Crown square actuator sticks interesting though.

Koreans sticks couldn't be the only stick you can light dash on, and I do the dp motion every time for those CC's fyi. I need to freakin get into T5 while I'm in Korea, instead of playing the same Capcom games all the time.

How much are they in U.S dollars, I might be interested.

How much is this one? What kind of joystick and buttons does it use?

http://www.stick.pe.kr/order-saul2k.htm

[laugh]

How are these going to be distributed? Are we going to have one person here in the states receive the lot then distribute them among us. This would really save on shipping. Or what?

I've been thinking, and the best way to do it would be that each one of you that wants to group-buy some parts or complete joysticks would PM EJM and let him know exactly how many buttons/sticks you want for each color, and paypal him first. When he has all the list compiled with the money, he'll paypal me the total and the complete list of buttons and sticks in detail. Then I send the packages to EJM. EJM should be paid for shipping within the U.S. for when he gets the package as well as the international shipping cost for me. The shipping within the States is for EJM to figure out with each of you, because the weight will be different for each person.

The shipping is saved by group order than if you were to order small individually (ie. 2 sticks and few buttons), because they charge the same for 1kg and anything below 1kg. But individual orders wouldn't hurt too much in shipping I'd say.

Shipping does get cheaper a lot as the weight increases. Like, packages in the 0.5kg - 3kg weight range will cost 5 bucks extra for every additional 0.5kg, but packages at 9kg- 12kg weight range will cost 2.50 bucks for every additional 0.5kg. The price per 0.5kg keeps going cheaper until the maximun weight limit (20 kg), which is 2.30 bucks for each additional 0.5kg.

If you don't wanna be grouped with EJM for some reason, make your own group and we'll do the same process.

I think this way we could do a trustworthy transaction. Any suggestions are welcome.

Ryan

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How much are they in U.S dollars, I might be interested.

How much is this one? What kind of joystick and buttons does it use?

http://www.stick.pe.kr/order-saul2k.htm

Basically, treat 1000 Won as $1.00 US. So 50,000 Won would be about 50 bucks.

That stick's about 35 bucks, and the same shipping rule applies to anything you buy from them. The stick and the buttons they put in there are custom-made for Saulabi sticks, but I think the stick is pretty much a Fanta with a knob made out of non-shiny plastic, and I have no idea what those buttons are like from the inside. Buttons are fine, but I didn't like the stick when I played on one of those. I personally don't recommend it. I gotta take a look of the inside when I have a chance.

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How about that wooden-looking stick? I am absolutely not familiar with pre-made sticks in Korea... so I have no clue as to how each stick compares with each other. However, for $29 bucks (give or take), that is a complete bargain. There HAS to be a catch (I'm thinking imitation brand parts). Any experience on the complete joysticks as linked in the previous posts?

I am most definitely going to buy a few sticks (the part), but it would be pretty sweet to buy a complete Korean stick as well (especially if it's so cheap, I mean $29 K-stick vs. $100+ HRAP).

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Laugh:

How about that wooden-looking stick? I am absolutely not familiar with pre-made sticks in Korea... so I have no clue as to how each stick compares with each other. However, for $29 bucks (give or take), that is a complete bargain. There HAS to be a catch (I'm thinking imitation brand parts). Any experience on the complete joysticks as linked in the previous posts?

I am most definitely going to buy a few sticks (the part), but it would be pretty sweet to buy a complete Korean stick as well (especially if it's so cheap, I mean $29 K-stick vs. $100+ HRAP).

Well, there's no catch. They use genuine Fanta sticks, and Crown screw-on buttons. They use those pressed wood panels which doesn't cost a whole lot, and they use DualShock2 compatible PCB from a Taiwanese pad for Xbox compatibility. I think they have about 10 bucks margin with that price, because I'm sure they're buying everything in bulk.

Here's my personal experience with complete korean joysticks.

My 3-years-old sticknara.com joystick: Uses Fanta stick that I still like a lot after 3+ years of use, horrible metal prong buttons like THIS (http://stickstation.com/img/s_button_1.jpg). The case was made out of hard pressed paper-like material. All this dates back a lot, and the newer sticknara sticks are made out of better cases and the same good Fanta sticks and Crown switch buttons and DualShock2 compatible PCBs. Sticknara always had ergonomic button layouts, which is a must on my check list. These sticks support both PS2 and PC at the same time by DEAULT, and comes with the installation diskette for PC. These are usually about 39 bucks, but right now they are having a sale on slightly scratched ones from the storage for about 25 bucks right now. I'd definitely recommend this one out of all the korean pre-made sticks.

Stick.pe.kr sticks: They use Fanta sticks and Crown switch buttons as well, but I HATE the button layout. It's like I have to twist my hand to press LP and LK together (ha, the RC whore's check list #1) and the whole vertical line is unnatural for the hands. Besides the button layouts being gay, it's right up there with sticknara.com, imo. They have good pricing too, don't you think?

SAULABI sticks: These are by far the most visually pleasing korean sticks, but I don't like the performance of the stick. Maybe the one I got to play on was bad, but the general opinion is that they are not top notch in terms of execution. Average gamers and non-fighting-gamers love it though, since they're selling pretty well in Korea in both offline and online sales. A Fanta stick mod would be really easy, but these have the same button layout as the stick.pe.kr. I don't like that layout. Still priced good, a few bucks more than stick.pe.kr sticks.

Stickstaion.com sticks: Not recommended period. It's got the same Fanta sticks, but it has those bad buttons and the ugliest look out of all the sticks I've seen. The price isn't that competitive either.



That should clear people up.

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OH MAN!

Sign me up for that Sticknara.com stick! Anyway we can do a batch order on those? $25 is the deal of the century!

Authentic all K-part joystick for $25 versus a J-stick HORI for $125. It makes you wonder about pricing now. :S

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OH MAN!

Sign me up for that Sticknara.com stick! Anyway we can do a batch order on those? $25 is the deal of the century!

Authentic all K-part joystick for $25 versus a J-stick HORI for $125. It makes you wonder about pricing now. :S

Nice. Let EJM know if you're going the group way.

It can't just be 25 bucks though, since that's gonna cost 4 bucks in shipping to get it to me first, and I need to make some profit off of it, don't you think? 10 bucks sounds fair for my share. This is because $25 is how much they sell them at, the price on the sticks and buttons I mentioned won't change.

Sound cool?

[albert_c]

I'll go in the group buy for the Sticknara stick. I'll probably get some extra buttons in case I don't like the colors later. You guys just let me know when and to who to send the money to. I'm just curious, I thought someone said they didn't make the joysticks with black handles? Only red and green? Are the sticks in the Sticknara genuine arcade joysticks?

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I'll go in the group buy for the Sticknara stick. I'll probably get some extra buttons in case I don't like the colors later. You guys just let me know when and to who to send the money to. I'm just curious, I thought someone said they didn't make the joysticks with black handles? Only red and green? Are the sticks in the Sticknara genuine arcade joysticks?

We need to set a date for all the group orderees to complete the orders (in detail, specify colors and the exact numbers) and the payments with EJM first. How about a week from today?

They did make them with black handles, it's just that I've never seen them in the shops except in sticknara sticks. Trust me. I had one of their sticks and it's Fanta alright.

Edit: The $25 sticks on sale at sticknara go on sale starting tomorrow (Monday), but I'm thinking what if they run out of stock on these special price ones in this 1 week period we're giving people to finish orders?

[lseelba]

I'll buy a sticknara joystick. I also want a big batch (at least 100) of those illuminated buttons. I'll figure out exactly how many and what colors soon.

[albert_c]

I'll buy a sticknara joystick. I also want a big batch (at least 100) of those illuminated buttons. I'll figure out exactly how many and what colors soon.

How do you power these up? Could you power them up in a console joystick.

[ArC_man]

Sign me up for one of those sticknara joysticks as well please.

thx :p

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How do you power these up? Could you power them up in a console joystick.

12v and ground to the gold parts right above the microswitches.
pic (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bulbswitch.JPG)

Every console controller port I know only supports 5v. Even if they lit up with 5v only, it might not be enough for multiple buttons. So if you press a lot of buttons at the same time and light them all up, the controller fuse in the playstation controller port might break because of current overflow. These are arcade buttons for a reason. :)

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Sign me up for one of those sticknara joysticks as well please.

thx :p

Read up on how to actually order in page 3. Deal things with EJM and let him know what you want exactly and clear the payments with him first and give him your address and all.

[lseelba]

How do you power these up? Could you power them up in a console joystick.

Yeah what laugh said. You'd probably break something if you tried to power these from a console. Your best bet would be to put some duracell 12 V batteries inside your case to power these.

My question is, are these illuminated all the time, or only when the button is depressed? Also, how large are they?

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My question is, are these illuminated all the time, or only when the button is depressed? Also, how large are they?

They light up when you press them, and goes off when depressed. I didn't measure exactly, but from eye ballin, I'd say it's regular pushbutton size.

[MAGE25]

I know this thread is a bit old now but is anyone still takin orders for the korean sticks? coz i need a couple.