The Official Soccer/Football Thread v 1.0

[Liquid Fists]

So, seeing how some of you people who post here are slightly interested in soccer, i thought why not make a thread.

So, here it goes!

I really think that Liverpool should have the chance to enter the Champions League next season, it would be really stupid if they werent allowed to defend thier trophy. I am willing to bet that Essien will will be going to Manchester United during the transfer window, and that Baros will be going to Valencia.

So, give me some of your thoughts on the soccer or should i say 'football' world.

[white ninja]

I'm a huge Man U Beckham created whore. I'm really disappointed by the season they had, but better luck next season I guess. I also go see all the chinese super league matches in Shanghai. Other than that I don't know what to do about the liverpool situation it's rather complicated and it would be quite strange to have the champions not be able to defend their title.

p.s. mourhino is a pompus ass

-ninj

[Liquid Fists]

I totally agree with you on Mourhino, i think he is a little to cocky calling himself 'the special one' the only reason Chelsea won the premiership is becasue of Roman Ambromovich pumping millions into getting a star studded team, not because of Mourhino's managerial skills.

[Liquid Fists]

anybody else like football?? theres got to be some others!

[NapaSelect]

Hell ya football player here. Hoping to make the ODP team for district 5. I currently play for Napa

[Liquid Fists]

you watch any games, or read up on the latest hypes or rumors at all?
if you got digital cable i suggest you hit up Fox soccer channel, or for you europeans Sky Sports network

EDIT: I was thinking of making a football based news site if anybody was interested in helping me make/update it all.

[Javid]

Hey, my team just won the Champions league so it's all good. What an amazing match. After the game was over I downloaded it and burned it straight to DVD.

I hope Baros doesn't leave Liverpool, or else my Liverpool jersey will be obsolete. As for them not being able to defend their victory, that has got to be one of the worst ideas ever.

As for current soccer events, I'm just curious as to where you guys think certain national teams will go on their journey to Germany in 2006. I'm cheering for The Netherlands and Denmark. The Netherlands should be able to make it this year(Romania is their only competition), and Denmark I'm worried about a little.

EDIT: The Netherlands are playing Romania on Saturday, so it should be a good game.

[Liquid Fists]

I ordered it on Pay-per-view for 20 dollars, the best 20 bucks ive spent in a long time to say the least.

Brazil might not do so hot now that the head coach is threatening to remove Ronaldo from the roster if he doesn't play in the upcoming Confederations Cup, England, USA, France, Czech Republic, Italy, and Ireland will all be tough nuts to crack also.

Im hoping that the USA will do better than they did while playing England on Saturday in thier WCQ matches.

[NapaSelect]

hey i'd be willing to help out with the site, but idk how i would be able to help. And hopefully Mexico can make it to the semis in the World Cup :confused: but then again.......it's Mexico

[L4undry]

I'm a big fan of Arsenal, especially their domination of last EPL season. I was really pulling for them this season, but Chelsea was crazy. They're win over Man U for the FA Cup was huge. Van Persie, Henry, Bergkamp, and Reyes are all excellent strikers. They have good mids in Vierra and Ljumgberg, as well as the rest of the cast.

Nice avatar Liquid Fists.

[Liquid Fists]

Thanks, i could make one for you if you'd like? just tell me the names of three people you want on it.

And yes, they did have a excellent last season going unebeaten, they were horrible for a little while during this season while Giberto and some others were injured. The only reason Chelsea tied them at the beginning of the season was because of Almunia, he isn't even comparible with the likes of Jens Lehmann.

I hope Bergkamp can make a short 1 or 2 year deal and stay with them so they have a chance at the Champions league next season. Arsene needs to bring in some big name defenders to back up Sol Cambell, Ashley Cole, Lauren, and Toure while they are benched, or resting.

[Lantis]

hey i'd be willing to help out with the site, but idk how i would be able to help. And hopefully Mexico can make it to the semis in the World Cup :confused: but then again.......it's Mexico

:wtf: What the fuckin' hell are you smokin'?

Mexico in the SEMIS in a World Cup? :rofl: They couldn't even pass the quarterfinal round in the 2 World Cups that were hosted here (Mexico). It's just a matter of this: when Mexico faces a match against a big team in an elimination match, they choke. Sure, they can do pretty good first rounds because they actually have options (tie to this team and defeat the other team), but when the knockout rounds start...it's there were their true suckiness pops up. I love it because the Mexican media likes to hype them up to no tomorrow, and they end up giving rather shitty performances the next you see 'em.

USA 94? Mexico ends 1-1 with Bulgaria and gets kicked out in their "curse": penalty kicks.

France 98? They end up losing to Germany cuz their fuckin' defenders are 5'7" and German attackers are 6'4". Death by Air Raid.

Korea/Japan 2002? I find this funny because some idiot reporter actually posted them as favorites for WINNING THE WORLD CUP, and guess who they lost to? The United States. I swore I never laughed so hard amidst the grief of a nation. Gotta love being an American in Mexico, I tell ya.

[NapaSelect]

I know that but did you see the end..........it's Mexico. they never do it

[Liquid Fists]

Haha, Real Madrid has been linked to supposedly wanting Rafael Benitez instead of Luxembergo. If Rafa goes to Real Madrid, i will lose all respect for him, seeing how he will get a fat ammount of cash for the tranfer market this summer so he can easily attract big name players.

Liverpool want's Shaun Wright-Phillips, Manchester United are rumored to want Gianluigi Buffon, Celtic want Robbie Keane, and Andy Johnson has reportedly stated that he will leave Crystal Palace for either Liverpool, Tottenham, or Newcastle.

Keep the thread alive guys!

[Lantis]

Speaking, I'm an avid follower of the Mexican league (since I live here) and my fave team, America, won the title today, and in a very impressive way, too (won by 6-3). Yay, not all was lost this week. :tup:

[Liquid Fists]

I tried to follow the Mexican league, but i never get to see any games, all i can catch is a glimpse here and there on Fox Sports Report. Claudio Lopez is one of my favorite strikers, i hope he can do well in the World Cup, which will probably be his last seeing how he's getting up there in age.

[Lantis]

It's weird, but they say this is the first actual title won by "Piojo". It's funny because Lopez has been around in successful teams in Italy and Spain and yet he never won a title? Must be kinda like Batistuta in that aspect....

[Liquid Fists]

But Batistuta won the league with AS Roma in 2000, and yeah Batistuta was with Old Boys, River, Boca, Roma, Inter Milan and then i don't know why he would go to Qatar, but he did. He had quite a career i must say.

[Lantis]

Heh, playing for River and Boca, I guess only Batistuta can do that shit....

Because nowadays, you either play for one team or the other. It's kinda like deciding to be circumsied. I swear, Argentina fans are damn crazy. It's like the only place where you can't switch teams...they support the "4 LIFE!" way of thinking.

[Liquid Fists]

Especialy since Boca and River is the biggest rivalry EVER! The Boca/River game was amazing, both teams need to get thier act together or they will lose the Copa Lib again. I was watching some Argentine Soccer matches, and i swear, thier fans are damn psychos, they need 20 foot tall plexy glass barriers to stop them from rioting on the pitch, and they are always filled with debris and confetti. It would be terrible playing on that kind of pitch.

[white ninja]

liquid if you get spanish channed or International channel you can watch a lot of mexican, italian, french league games. While in college in the u.s. on sundays I watch 3 matches in a row... mex, italy, france in one long string that's enough football for anyone I think.

-ninj

p.s. spanish football is for girls

[Liquid Fists]

Bah, your just jealous because the big names are in Spain!

But Real Madrid needs to quit thier ego-tripping and win a damn championship next season. Figo, Beckham, Owen, Ronaldo, Raul, Raul Bravo, Zidane, Cassilas, and Roberto Carlos are some of the biggest names in football, but yet they cant win a championship, pathetic.

Manchester United might get the boot from Nike as it's shirt sponsor for lack of success, and they might lose vodafone if the fans boycott it like they say they are going to. Manchester United is going to be rubbish next season now that Malcom Glazer has taken over, fucking pig doesn't know the difference from his face and ass let alone anything about football.

[dano13]

representing argentina, fuck england. 10 is god.

[AkumaTX]

First Lantis, cant stand America. If i had to choose my favorite mexican team i would have to go with los rajados de Monterrey. Fuck tigres. As for Euro style football, saw the Liver vs Milan match, and all i have to say is wft happened? Im a Man U and Chelsea fan, but watching Milan lose like that was just sickening. Oh well, atleast they arent the columbian team or else upon arrival home, they would've been killed.

[Birdsick]

I'm a Liverpool fan, although I live in Manchester at the moment. There's no way Benitez will leave Liverpool in the near future. I'm more worried about Gerrard leaving though, it looks like he might stay one more season but replacing him will be impossible.

[BloodRiotIori]

Liverpool should not be allowed to defend their cup. Yes, fairytales do sound more nice than the alternative, but the fact is rules are rules. That Welsh side offering them the qualification battle is regardless of the point, its against the rules.

And Manchester never looked like improving. This is coming from a ManU fan. I don't see them improving until something radical kicks in next next season. They've been disappointing for a long time now. Yes, they did deserve to win the FA cup but the point is.. they didn't~

[Ryu & Ken]

I just want 2 see Argentina whip some ass, as now there players are slowly coming thru.

Crespo better make amends in 2006 WC and will Ortega ever play again ?

[Liquid Fists]

Ruud van Nistelrooy wants out of Manchester, probably going to Barcelona or Real Madrid, but i wonder if Barca will take with the likes of E'to and Larsson already playing at striker. Chelsea will offer Barcelona Hernan Crespo for striker Samuel Eto'o, Crespo wants to stay at AC Milan but they are not going to sign him for they think he costs to much money.

Yeah, Manchester United is doing terrible at the moment. I hope Fergie will be sacked, the club needs new life, and with having the same manager for 18 some years, they need to get rid of him and find somebody else.

[Lantis]

Real Madrid is the Yankees/Lakers of soccer...a team with probably the highest payroll in the whole world of soccer (don't let Abrahmovic's wealth fool you, I don't see too many stars in the Chelsea lineup, and where is the proverbial striker? Drogba? Pfffft! :rolleyes: ). Admittingly, Real Madrid pulled out an incredible streak at the end of the season (they even defeated Barcelona). Problem was that Barcelona was doing the same thing, and they ended up with the league. Hah hah, they pulled Morientes back from AS Monaco because they were jealous that Morientes was the one who kicked them out of the Champions last year, and yet they benched him AGAIN! Priceless! :clap:

AkumaTX: Hah hah! Yeah, America is one of those hate/love teams. I virtually love it because there is this sports commentator on this channel who REALLY despises America, and was giving them lots of grief during the playoffs (saying that their next rival would kick their ass and so forth), and in the end, America wins the title! I was so glad that they shut his mouth, for real! :clap:

And on a side note, Monterrey was the only team that defeated America in the whole season! America didn't even lose in the playoffs! :tup:

As for the next World Cup...I'm always skeptical of which team is the favorite. Brazil always seems to be good considering their lineup (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, and Kaka are damn scary by themselves), Argentina always plays a good qualification round but then fucks up in the WC, then you have Italy, England, Germany (their game is shitty but they WILL be the home team), France (but they are getting lamer now), the highly overrated Spain. I think Czech Republic will make a splash next year, their game hasn't slipped. I dunno about Greece...I would like to see how they play against the Latin style.

I guess we'll have to see until the Confederation Cup begins next month. The best teams in the world are playing there, and will kinda be like the training kernel for the World Cup, assuming that all the teams will bring forth their star power.

[Liquid Fists]

I don't see too many stars in the Chelsea lineup

You've got to be kidding. Peter Cech, John Terry, Gallas, Frank Lampard, Makelele, Duff, Robben, Tiago, Drogba, Gudjohnson. all star players, and they can actually play as a team unlike Real Madrid.

[Lantis]

You've got to be kidding. Peter Cech, John Terry, Gallas, Frank Lampard, Makelele, Duff, Robben, Tiago, Drogba, Gudjohnson. all star players, and they can actually play as a team unlike Real Madrid.

Well, compared to Casillas, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Raul, Beckham, Zidane, Figo, Gravesen, and Owen, Chelsea's lineup kinda seems like "second tier". The thing is also that Madrid's star players also have a good rep in their national teams, which are also top tier (Brazil, England, France...Spain and Portugal to some extent). Players like Drogba and Gudjohnson will have a hard time shining in other place than Chelsea.

[Liquid Fists]

I think everyone is "second tier" compared to Arsenal, i mean with Henry, Reyes, vanPersie, Bergkamp, Pires, Fabregas, Viera, Gilberto, Ljungberg, Cole, Cambell, Toure, and Lauren. They just seem to choke against some of the bigger European clubs, and they also choke on the eve of a big match, like Man United, or Chelsea, thier defense crumbles late on and they get scored on within the last 15 minutes of every big game it seems like.

[Lantis]

:rofl: at Bergkamp. That guy was all over the place a few years ago as the star of the Dutch team and Arsenal, and now suddenly Van Nistelrooy steals his thunder. The guy still has a very scary face, though. :confused:

BTW, do you guys also play soccer games? My personal fave is the Winning Eleven series (ever since the SNES days when it was dubbed International Superstar Soccer). I dunno, whereas it lacks the sponsorship of the FIFA games, it makes up in realism, and sorta "feels" better than FIFA. Not to mention that a) there is always edit mode to change players names and such and b) I kinda hate EA.

[Liquid Fists]

Yeah, I was a fan of the World Tour Soccer games for a while, i tried the winning eleven seven, but the techno music drove me crazy, i couldn't stand listening to techno everytime i did a replay, or whenever the hlf was done. Im playing FIFA 2005 right now, nut i hate how you cant customize teams uniforms and what not. and the fact that they give you non sponsored shoes for creating players is ridiculous, pure laziness. They get all the shirt sponsors to comply. but they forget the shoes.

[shadow_WX]

I really think that Liverpool should have the chance to enter the Champions League next season, it would be really stupid if they werent allowed to defend thier trophy. I am willing to bet that Essien will will be going to Manchester United during the transfer window, and that Baros will be going to Valencia.



Yes, they should be allowed to participate in the up and coming CL. Liverpool's inclusion doesn't have to be at the cost of another team though. UEFA could simply expand the qualifying stages to allow Liverpool a slot.

I've no idea why they changed this rule in the first place. I remember when Nottingham Forest won the league title and Liverpool won the European cup, the following season Forest and Liverpool were both in the competition, one as the League champions and the other as the Cup holders.

If UEFA makes the right decision here, nobody is going to get thrown out, possibly Arsenal may have to play a qualifier but that's all.

The Champions have to be allowed to defend their trophy, even if the rules, which aren't that good anyway, have to be changed. Personally I believe that winning the trophy is slightly more important than finishing 4th in the Premiership anyway.

[Liquid Fists]

Did you got to the England v USA match shadow? Seeing how your from Chicago. I went, drove the couple hours to get there, but was dissapointed that we lost. We need to capatilize on our chances, we missed far to many shots. We need to keep our composure and we will be in the running for the World Cup Final.

[ReptarBar]

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it's not like liverpool were the force they once were....there's no guarantee they're gonna win it again next year for sure. whoever doesn't get the chance to qualify will take legal action against uefa most def.

[shadow_WX]

Did you got to the England v USA match shadow? Seeing how your from Chicago. I went, drove the couple hours to get there, but was dissapointed that we lost. We need to capatilize on our chances, we missed far to many shots. We need to keep our composure and we will be in the running for the World Cup Final.

No, I didn't get the chance to but I knew it was taking place in Chicago. Didn't get around to buying tickets for the venue haha.

[shadow_WX]

it's not like liverpool were the force they once were....there's no guarantee they're gonna win it again next year for sure. whoever doesn't get the chance to qualify will take legal action against uefa most def.

The current system is too much of a lottery in my opinion. The old European Cup featured the best teams from each nation. It was sudden death so no margin for error, thus it tended to be won by the best teams.

New Runners-Up Cup, features the richest teams from each nation. It has multiple escape clauses to ensure that the rich get richer at the expense of everyone else as teams can afford to slip up more than once. Thus this one tends to be won by the best coaches (tacticians).

Like the guy or not, Maurinho qualifies (as does Rafa) and Demento and Wenger don't. Arsenal are without doubt the best pure footballing side in the Prem but they only have one gameplan. There is no plan B when it doesn't work, let alone plan C. There is still hope of course as Man U pulled it off in '99 despite being tactically outclassed in my view all throughout the competition.

So basically Liverpool will again be English favourites (if allowed to defend it) along with Chelsea and I'd actually put Everton 3rd because both they and Moyes are an unknown quantity. Man U and Arsenal are the outsiders for next season even though most would deny it seeing as how the english media brandishes them as their "top" teams.

[Liquid Fists]

Im expecting Everton to do terrible, they've never played in the Champions League. I think theyre flyin high attitude at the moment is going to be shot down to reality once the group stages start. They might make it past group stages. but in the knock-out stages, i think they'll get dominated.

[Lantis]

Craziest fans:

- Argentina: Already mentioned. Watch a game of the Argentina league and you'll probably see HUGE crowds with lights and color papers flying everywhere, HUGE flags that probably cover up one side of the stadium, depicted drawings of star players, etc. These are called the "bravas", a kind of soccer lifestyle which involves heavy fanboyism. Hell, these fans are so crazy that they even created a religion revolving around Maradona! Chants also involve messages of "my team is my life!" or "victory or death!". Crazy, crazy crap. :confused:

- Italy: The so-called "tifosi". Anybody who watched the recent Inter-AC Milan game from the Champions can see this. Don't EVER put teams from the same city against each other, or shit flies.

- England: Land of the infamous "hooligans". Although in my seeing, even though they started to pop up at the unfortunate Liverpool-Juventus incident in Heyssel 20 years ago, I see them a lot more in England matches than actual club matches. I've seen recent Premiership games and it's more like more chanting and less ruckus. Maybe it's a national team thing now? :confused:

[Liquid Fists]

Half the time in England, if fans get crazy, the club is fined, so they influence good behavior. When i was in London i went to a Arsenal Game and the next weekend went to a Chelsea game. the crowd was relatively on good behavior. of course theres the crazy fan here and there that gets kicked out. But most of the time everyone is there just to have a good time and watch some football.

[Liquid Fists]

Bump

Theres got to be more soccer fans on this forum.

[FreddyL0c0]

La Liga owns u all.

So I guess its safe to say Figo, Carlos and prob somebody else will get cut out of Madrid, in favor for Robinho and some other crazy players, who will need time to bend with the team, thus not making them the force to be reckoned that they are supposed to be.

If Cristiano Ronaldo does manage to go to Barcelona, then god damn, that team will have three crazy midfileders in their hands. Plus with the return of Henrik Larsen (who wants to bet he's gonna get injured very early in the season), Barcelona are gonna be lethal.

Riquelme is too sick, the sole reason Villareal made it to the champions league.

[BloodRiotIori]

Shit, I was in shock at the way Arsenal were looking at being taken out (this season saw names like Wenger/Cole/Bergkamp/Vieira/Pires being named to leave arsenal for different reasons).

But when I think about my own team, theres enough worry there too. Ferdinand fucking about with Kenyon, Nistelrooy+Ronaldo I'm always worried about regarding the lure of mainland Europe, no friggin goalkeeper~

[FreddyL0c0]

Manchester should have gotten the Espanyol goalee (Kameni??forgot his name), way better than Carrol and that other fool.

But I guess nothing wil retrieve the Schmichael(again sp) legacy

[shadow_WX]

If Cristiano Ronaldo does manage to go to Barcelona, then god damn, that team will have three crazy midfileders in their hands. Plus with the return of Henrik Larsen (who wants to bet he's gonna get injured very early in the season), Barcelona are gonna be lethal.



Madrid and Chelsea have expressed interest in acquiring Ronaldo. Barca on the other hand were looking towards Henry for next season's squad.

[Birdsick]

There is no way Everton will repeat their 4th position again next season. I'd expect Chelsea to win again, with Man Utd and Arsenal battling it out for 2nd/3rd (as long as Henry and Vieira stay fit). Liverpool might challenge Arsenal and Man Utd and may finish 3rd if they get lucky or make some good signings over the summer (i.e. a goalkeeper who isn't a clown / cripple and someone to replace Traore).

As for the hooliganism thing, nowadays it's no worse than what goes on in other countries. Fans from Italian sides have been far worse in recent years, but England gets a bad rep for a very small minority. Some people do go to football matches to fight, but they mainly keep it within a small minority who also want to fight (not a wholly accurate portrayal, but watch the film "Football Factory"). If you are a real football fan, you go to the game, watch the match and head to the pub afterwards for some 'playful' banter.

I play Pro Evo (aka Winning Eleven) over here, and used to play football at a relatively high level until I broke both my legs and never played again.

[RockBogart]

So how do Manchester United fans feel about the Tampa Bay owner buying the team? I saw the people protesting on tv, but i want to know how the SRK fans feel.

[Liquid Fists]

I think he is the stupidest person ever. First off, he doesn't know a damn thing about football, let alone how to run a club. He is going to be broke since all the shareholders are seeling their stocks, and the fans are now starting to boycott sponsors of the club. Fans will not be going as often, or at all in some cases. Malcom Glazer should have bought a petty club like Fulham, not buy the richest team in football as a gift to your son. I hope he rots in hell after some Man U fanatic assasinates him.

Birdsick:
I don't think Chelsea will repeat it's title, they are going to choke just as Arsenal did this season. I hope Henry, Viera, and Gilberto can be fit for the start of the season.

[BloodRiotIori]

As a ManU fan, i can't tell you how much I hate Malcolm Glazer for the purchase. Eh, usual reasons, can't be bothered to repeat usual ish.

Also, I can't see anyone winning the league next year apart from Chelsea. Not that I can't see them losing at all, its more of a comparitive thing. Arsenal/ManU (who are the closest thing to them) are nowhere as good as Chelsea are

[Liquid Fists]

Chelsea will lose the premiership next season. If Arsenal players can stay fit they will win it with ease. Chelsea only caught up to Arsenal because of injuries. and because Arsenal had a dry spell in the middle of the season while Gilberto and Viera were injured/unfit.

I think if Nistelrooy and Ronaldo leave Man U this summer the club will fall apart. Even though they have a solid keeper in Tim Howard.

[RockBogart]

But arent the protest going to end up hurting the players as well or do they get paid differently than other sports.

[Liquid Fists]

Yeah, thats why most of them want out. Ferdinand, Nistelrooy, and Ronaldo. All have been hinting at leaving the club because of the poor season, and the takeover.

[Birdsick]

As long as Ferguson is in charge, I doubt those players will leave Man Utd. I'd expect them to stay for at least one more season. I don't doubt that Arsenal will challenge, but the fact that Chelsea won the league without an out-and-out goalscorer speaks volumes. Arsenal, on the other hand rely heavily on Henry (and to a lesser extent Pires / Ljungberg). If Chelsea actually had a striker who was a guaranteed 25+ goals a season, coupled with the best defence (and goalkeeper) I can see them running away with it, again. Chelsea won the league because they were good (not lucky), Arsenal lost the league because they weren't as good (not because they were unlucky).

The whole Glazer thing, I think we will just have to wait and see. What pisses off a lot of supporters is that he just hasn't been clear about his intentions. I can only imagine a small amount of people who would boycott sponsors products, which are way outnumbered by the vast majority of armchair fans around the world. Fans were ripping up season ticket renewal forms etc, but do you know how long the list is for people who would pay any amount of money for one of them?

[Liquid Fists]

Chelsea may be good, but they certainly arent the best. Jose Mourhino needs to lay off the "special one" crap and think that maybe he won the premiership because of Roman Ambromovich's money attracting big names. I mean i think they hauled in 7 big name players last summer.

Arsenal will be in the running for first next season, probably be a battle like AC Milan/Juventus were this season.

[Lantis]

Well, if there is anything going for Mourinho, is that he NEVER played soccer ever...hell, I think he was just some random guy taken in by legendary British coach Brian Robson, and started learning from him and WHAM! Suddenly he is all over the place.

In my case, since my fave team is AC Milan, regardless of whether or not Crespo will continue with the team, there is always a willing Tomasson, and does anyone know what happened to Filippo Inzaghi?

[Liquid Fists]

He got injured early in the season, ankle i think. Then he didn't make the Euro 2004 roster so that probably sent him back in terms of confidence. He should be recovered now i think.

[Ryu & Ken]

Man Valencia should make Aimar Captain, as the greatest player Maradona was.

In the same position and Aimar ain't to bad

[King G3]

Anyone here play Pro Evo??

If you do add me to your Friends list for a game some time.

[Javid]

Aside from me watching World Cup qualification matches, what other Soccer tournaments/events are coming up? Since the Champions League is over, I don't see much now...

EDIT: I hate watching Italian soccer. I get it every Saturday on an Italian channel, and damn I can not stand listening to the commentator. You will never catch me wearing an Italian soccer jersey, national or club team!

[Lantis]

Anyone here play Pro Evo??


If by Pro Evo you mean the Winning Eleven series, then yes, I do play it.

Javidjin: The next big tournament coming up is the Confederation Cup, which is kinda like a mini-World Cup of sorts. They take the champion of each federation to face each other. So you have:

1) World Champion: Brazil
2) European Champion: Greece
3) Asian Champion: Japan
4) African Champion: Tunisia
5) North American Champion: Mexico
6) Australia (they are always the champions of that area where they are in)

Then you have the host country, Germany.

And since Brazil also won the South American championship, they're taking the second place instead (Argentina).

It's gonna be pretty interesting since most national teams are gonna take this chance to test their strengths before the World Cup comes around.

And then you have the American version of the Champions (Copa Libertadores) which is in the quarterfinal round right now.

[BloodRiotIori]

Sorry, but Arsenal won't be in the running for the league next season. Maybe up until christmas break, or just after, but not towards the end.

And ManU's high profile players leaving (if it happens) will be nothing to do with the takeover. Even if they happen to hint as that being the reason, they're liars. The lure of glorified Italian and Spanish leagues will be the key. Thats it.

[Liquid Fists]

I beg to differ my friend.

Arsenal will be top of the league next season, why?
Because Arsene Wenger is looking for big name players to back up for injuries and what not. Also just incase someone pulls a fast one and leaves mid season through the transfer window. Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell LAuren and Toure have all stated they are staying, that leaves a nice back 4 with replacements if needed in Cygan and Sendoras. Cesc Fabregas is growing into one hell of a player, and only at 18 he has a lot of time to progress. Giblerto, Viera, and Ljungberg are most likely going to stay. With Pires questioning his loyalty to the club, might leave this summer, but who cares when you have Gilberto and Fabregas that can play winger just as well. Henry, Reyes, and v. Persie are all reportedly staying through out the summer, with Bergkamp in question. But with Van Persie now turining into one hell of a striker, they have more than enough talent to make up for his loss.

[Jawbreaker]

:tup: lmao @ Liquid Fists blatent knowlege of the premier league, damn...i thought i knew my shit. well average knowlege @ best seeing how soccer/f00tball comes on @ very strict hours in the day or late hours of the night, i bought a few mags, but thats it. good job bro, your posts are very informative and entertaining to the f00tbal enthusiast outside of the loop.

[I Am Lothar]

It is all bout Boca Jrs.

[Birdsick]

Liquid Fists: I disagree about Arsenal being top of the Premiership next season.

Why? Chelsea have so many players, they could put out 2 completely different teams and still challenge. If they buy a decent striker and their defence stays the same (i.e. the best in the Premiership) how could Arsenal stop them? They won't suddenly be able to make up such a large points difference without making some good purchases. Van Persie has been thoroughly average, Reyes blows hot and cold, Campbell is constantly getting injured, Lehmann is a clown and Arsenal have a relatively small squad. Chelsea on the other hand, have a stable defence, a great midfield and the potential to have a great strike force. The same just can't be said about Arsenal anymore, IMO.

[white ninja]

Arsenal has a serious problem in the back field. They have no dependable goalie...admit it Alumina sometimes is on point other times it's like he's asleep. Sol Campbell is getting non-stop injuries lately the latest being in the usa/england friendly where he ganked his ankle. Cygan is a piece of garbage in the way he is just outright careless. Lauren is not dependable and sometimes seems to just be jogging around out of position. Ashley Cole is a straight up defender, but sometimes has disciplinary problems or just decides to take a two footed tackle on someone. That's what I call a problem with the back four.

-ninj

[RockBogart]

I know this is a bit off topic, but i know a lot of soccer fans watch rugby. I just started playing it over here in the US for my college and Im really into it. Does anyone know what sports channels in the US typically show rugby games.

[RockBogart]

I know this is a bit off topic, but i know a lot of soccer fans watch rugby. I just started playing it over here in the US for my college and Im really into it. Does anyone know what sports channels in the US typically show rugby games.

[BloodRiotIori]

I beg to differ my friend.

Arsenal will be top of the league next season, why?
Because Arsene Wenger is looking for big name players to back up for injuries and what not. Also just incase someone pulls a fast one and leaves mid season through the transfer window. Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell LAuren and Toure have all stated they are staying, that leaves a nice back 4 with replacements if needed in Cygan and Sendoras. Cesc Fabregas is growing into one hell of a player, and only at 18 he has a lot of time to progress. Giblerto, Viera, and Ljungberg are most likely going to stay. With Pires questioning his loyalty to the club, might leave this summer, but who cares when you have Gilberto and Fabregas that can play winger just as well. Henry, Reyes, and v. Persie are all reportedly staying through out the summer, with Bergkamp in question. But with Van Persie now turining into one hell of a striker, they have more than enough talent to make up for his loss.

OK, one by one.

Vieira most prolly will stay. Has he got the same influence when he was being pursued by Madrid and was proclaimed best midfielde? Not by far. Has wittled down in terms of presence on matches same way as Roy Keane.
Your back 4 are quite good, yes. However thats only the first choice back four. If you think Cygan and Senderos are good enough as cover for a championship winning side over the whole league... well, I know you don't really think that.
Fabregas is looking good for an 18 year old, but depending on 18 year olds for results does not happen, especially for league games whee consistency is the key. If you were to rate youngsters as being truly valuable, I guess you're looking long term. As in the next few seasons. I doubt he would make the same impact Rooney (or even Ronaldo) has made, for his age.
Heny and Reyes are very nice, bt only Henry I would depend on for goals. With Reyes STILL finding it hard to adapt to the physical nature (any disagree'ers can suck it) how can you say you have enough depth for an entire season??

Compare it with Chelsea's depth.. sorry, little to no chance.

[Lantis]

It is all bout Boca Jrs.

Bah, I hope they get their asses kicked by Guadalajara in the Copa Libertadores (actually, I hate Guadalajara a bit more, but since Boca Juniors are a bunch of arrogant pricks, I say fuck 'em...).

[Liquid Fists]

I positive repped most of you, wanted to keep going but it said i gave out to much rep, lol

[Liquid Fists]

GUILTY!

Ashley Cole, Jose Mourhino, and Chelsea Football Club have all been found guilty for allegedely meeting, and talking about Cole moving to Chelsea out of the transfer window.

Ashley Cole was fined £100k

Jose Mourhino was fined £200k

Chelsea Football Club were fined £300k
and 3 pts if it happens again next season.

[Lantis]

Hah hah...Lehmann got booed out of his ass during the first game that took place in the shiny Allianz Arena in Munich (which will be used for World Cup purposes). The game was Germany vs. Bayern Munich. Lehmann was the goalkeeper of Germany, while Kahn was goalkeeper for Bayern. Now, it seems these 2 guys have some issues between each other for being the first goalkeeper of the national squad of Germany, and it seems like the crowd doesn't like Lehmann, or prefers Kahn, or who knows...

[Liquid Fists]

They prefer Kahn because he stayed in the Bundesliga.

[dano13]

It is all bout Boca Jrs.

For glory. I don't keep up with UEFA. But i've bene watching libertadores for the last 5 months. How about that? What about the CONMEBOL qualifiers? Arg v Bra this month..

[Liquid Fists]

bumpedy bump

[Javid]

Say, what do you guys think of this guys soccer skills:

http://home.quickclic.net/~awong/Mirza%20Mehic%20-%20Soccer%20Freestyle.MPG


EDIT: Before you ask, he is a friend of mine, and he is very good. He mostly plays midfield and shit.

[Liquid Fists]

It's not working for me.

[shadow_WX]

Worked fine for me liquid. Javid your friend is pretty good. But then again what really matters is how his play on the pitch is :wink:

[Lantis]

It seems that Boca Juniors received quite a trashing in Guadalajara...4-0. It seems like Boca is almost finished, what with that kind of ownage....

[Liquid Fists]

Yeah Boca have been slipping the past few years. Hoping River can salvage a little bit of dignity left though.

[dano13]

It seems that Boca Juniors received quite a trashing in Guadalajara...4-0. It seems like Boca is almost finished, what with that kind of ownage....
Tigres too.

On Boca:
Terrible, terrible game. They were also playing terrible. And that's not an excuse. Look at the spanking they gave Pachuca a couple weeks ago, they were playing ok then. Boca's a wierd team, they'll play way shitty one day and play good another, but it's not like other teams. It's really dramatic with them. It seemed like they just didn't want to play. Chivas had some nice goals too though. Boca wasn't there, and now they'll pay for it. Even if we do win 4-0 in Beunos Aires, penalities are killer.

I don't think Banfield will be able to hold up at River Plate, either.

Argentina and Ecuador this sat. and Brazil in two weeks. We don't even have a good national team, sad year.

[Lantis]

I'm sorta "meh" towards Tigres. Believe it or not, Tigres hasn't won a major title in Mexico for like 10 years. They are a solid mid-tier team here in Mexico, and they are also well known becuse they play great at home, but are pretty shitty when they play away from it. Mexican participation in the Copa Libertadores is pretty weird...they just grab a handful of teams, pit them in a tournament, and the first 3 teams go to the Libertadores...bizarre, eh?

Well, it's Santos, River Plate, Guadalajara, and Sao Paulo in the semifinals, apparently....

[ryu-bi]

why the hell we have a football thread started during offseason?

[Lantis]

why the hell we have a football thread started during offseason?

It's a soccer thread, which is called "football" in the rest of the world except in the States. (Sniper Wolf) Damn Americans (/Sniper Wolf)

[ryu-bi]

It's a soccer thread, which is called "football" in the rest of the world except in the States. (Sniper Wolf) Damn Americans (/Sniper Wolf)

not like i didnt know that :lame:

I kinda thought everything is pretty much over after the champions league final, thats what i meant up there

PS: im not even american~

[dano13]

not like i didnt know that :lame:

I kinda thought everything is pretty much over after the champions league final, thats what i meant up there

PS: im not even american~

Soccer never stops, at least there's no real offseason. International teams are always playing. And if it's not them, it's Sub-17, Sub-20, Olympics, Season, Touneys, etc.

World Cup qualifiers are 3 years long. I'm sure Europe's qualifiers are the same.


@ Lantis:
Of all the highlights i watched when i was in Argentina in Feb/Mar, Tigres stuck out as scoring a lot of goals, fast ones too. I thought Tigres would be a big threat in the later rounds. We'll have to see how it goes for them in Mexico. The same for Boca, maybe they can pull a 4-0 and go to penalties like they did against Pachuca.

Anyway, Brazil vs Paraguay, Argentina vs Ecuador today.

[Liquid Fists]

There is still the MLS, and Argentina, and Brazil Leagues in session.
Were not talking about just Europe.

[Liquid Fists]

Bump...?!?!?!

[NapaSelect]

BUMP cuz this thread is the shit...............imo at least

[Liquid Fists]

Rumor Mill

Ashley Cole is not going to be signing with Arsenal again next season, he says he does not want to play in the Premiership, but abroad. Freddy Ljungberg is saying he wants to see sign of signs of greater ambition before committing himself to a new deal with Arsenal.

Rafa Benitez is trying to lure Peter Crouch from Southampton by quadrupiling what he makes now. If he doesnt get Crouch, he will try to get Feyenoord striker Dirk Kuyt. He is also looking at siging Raul form Real Madrid.

West Brom are reportedly said to be offering Steven Gerrard £750,000
Manchester United has signed Edwin Van der Sar from Fulham.
Barcelona has showed interest in Arsenal Striker Thierry Henry.

[Lantis]

I would definetly phear a Ronaldinho/Henry/Eto'o offensive Triforce of Doom. :wow:

Hah, well, Argentina lost 2-0 to Ecuador, and Brazil seems to be running on a high horse by defeating Paraguay 4-1 (without Ronaldo). Shit is damn crazy down there.

[Liquid Fists]

well his replacement is Robinho, who is a prodigy to say the least.

[Liquid Fists]

Bump!....

[dano13]

brazil argentina tomorrow.

[BloodRiotIori]

*IF* Henry was to go Barca, then it would most prolly be in the swap deal with Eto'o, so no partnership there.

Anyway, Beckham has (or is about to?) sign a 4 year contract at Real, woo.

LOL, what do you guys think of the current Chelsea scandal? Chelsea are cunts, no respect for rules and regulations. And the Tottenham director isn't even gonna lodge a proper complaint, just accept compensation. Some papers stated that Chelsea offered Scott Parker (for 5m) in order to keep Tottenham quiet. If thats true, and if I was Scott Parker, I'd feel like shit.

[FreddyL0c0]

Roman's money rules the premiership.

Edwin Van der Sar is a good choice for United, we all know that he will definately be better than Howard and Carrol combined.

Cole and Ferdinand should team up

[Lantis]

Heh heh...Premiership is ALWAYS surrounded by scandal of some sort. Weren't some players from certain team accused of raping this girl, too?

Bleah, well, it appears the Confederation Cup starts in around 10 days or so, so....

[L4undry]

I don't know if it's quite as interesting as Premiership matches, but the national under 20's World Cup is coming up. The only reason I really care about it is that four dudes from UCLA are drafted to the team. As is Freddy Adu, the 16 year old striker from D.C. United. What are everybody's opinions about these up and coming players? Another Wayne Rooney?

[dano13]

Argentina 3-1 Brazil.

We did it.

We fucking did it.

We're going to Germany.

Thank you God.

[Lantis]

Pffft...well, Argentina hasn't been making any decent participations in World Cups lately...their performance in France '98 was decent, at best.

Well, we have more qualified teams to the World Cup as well:

- Germany (duh)
- Japan
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- South Korea
- Argentina

26 more slots to go. :bgrin:

Asia always seems to be the first continent to have WC qualifiers. I'm actually pretty glad that Korea qualified....that way they'll show ONCE and for ALL that they belong in the shitty tier, after the inhuman cheating they did in their WC (yes, I'm an Italy fan, and I was pissed at how they got kicked out in the last WC with shitty ref calling).

[dano13]

Only cause they took away God in '94.

...Speaking of which, have you guys ever attended any WC games? I was at USA vs. Columbia at the Rose Bowl, the game where the Columbian scored an own goal and then was killed when he went back to Columbia.

[Ryu & Ken]

Only cause they took away God in '94.

...Speaking of which, have you guys ever attended any WC games? I was at USA vs. Columbia at the Rose Bowl, the game where the Columbian scored an own goal and then was killed when he went back to Columbia.

Homie u BETTER mean Diego Maradona and not Pablo Escobar ( thpou I do feel sorry for the latter ), man I still remember that great celebration against Greece.
GGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I hope Argies win the WC in 2006

[white ninja]

Anyone see the WC qualifier of South Korea vs. Kuwait? Damn I didn't think that was gonna happen... I won't spoil it I guess if you haven't seen the scores, but I didn't expect there to be such offensive action.

-ninj

p.s. Also Japan vs. North Korea whoo!

[ryu-bi]

yea kuwait got beat pretty bad, which sucked cuz they are the ones that stole china's spot in advancing in the tournament.

i support Japan and S. Korea to be best 8 again.

[Lantis]

Well, both Kuwait and Bahrein both still have a chance to attend the WC.... whoever is in a better position at the end of the Asian qualifying rounds can face the 4th place of the North American qualifying round in a wild card match (possible candidates: Guatemala, Costa Rica, and Trinidad and Tobago. We all know Mexico and the US will compete for first). :rolleyes:

US defeated Panama 3-0 in Panama by the way.

Ukraine also made a BIG step in qualifying after defeating Greece in Athens by 1-0. The European champion now runs the risk of being eliminated altogether! :confused:

[dano13]

Homie u BETTER mean Diego Maradona and not Pablo Escobar ( thpou I do feel sorry for the latter ), man I still remember that great celebration against Greece.
GGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I hope Argies win the WC in 2006

There are two Gods, the one that lives above us, and then there's Diego. haha. And i hope they do too.

I guess none of you have ever been to a WC game.

Confederations Cup update:
Group A:
Argentina 2 - 1 Tunisia 6/15
Germany 4 - 3 Australia 6/15

Group B:
Japan 1 - 2 Mexico 6/16
Brazil 3 - 0 Greece 6/16

Tomorrow:
Tunisia - Germany 6/18
Argentina - Australia 6/18


Did anyone watch the Boca Chivas game? Jesus Christ, we could've at least scored one for Christ's sake. And what happened at the end of the last half was completely uncalled for, a shame. Crazy game, Chivas goaltender was key, if it hadn't been for him, we would've at least gone to overtime. I don't think Chivas has shit on River Plate though, and although they're our rival. I hope River wins Libertadores.

[Golden_Gunman]

As a european fan, it would be interesting to get the opinions of football fans who live in the Americas. Who are the star players in North / Central / South America at the moment. I know all about the top european players, but who is likely to be able to make the grade when they sign for a european club? In recent years many South American players have been billed as the next Pele or Maradona, but they always seem to come up short. Palermo, Saviola, Riquelme, Aimar, D'Alessandro, etc. Really only Kaka and Ronaldinho of recent years have proven to be the real deal, and even then Ronaldinho struggled at PSG. Robinho looks class, but then so did Tevez and Cavenaghi, and look what has happened to them.

Anyone like to share some insight?

[Lantis]

:rofl: That match really proved how Argentina fans are really just vandals. I mean, some random fan jumped in, attempted to punch Bautista, and then ran away and jumped back out again with just ONE cop trailing his ass...and the stupid fuck didn't even catch him. :rolleyes: Although I fear for Chivas, it seems that they are currently in some trouble with FIFA since most of their players are playing for Mexico in the Confederations Cup, and they won't lend their players back to Chivas for the semifinals, which begins next week.

GG: I dunno, Robinho (currenltly playing in Santos) is supposed to be the current shit now...him, and Marcelinho (who was just named the best player of the German league playing for Hertha Berlin, and he STILL doesn't get called to play with Brazil). Then there is Ronaldinho, Kaka, Kily Gonzalez, Riquelme, Saviola, Forlan, Tresor Moreno and the seasoned stars like Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, and Crespo. Palermo was always a dud...his claim for fame is the 3 penalties he missed in ONE GAME against Colombia! :rofl: But yeah...it almost always seems to be a given that American players who travel over to Europe ALWAYS struggle in their first seasons...but then they take off. Riquelme didn't start all that good in Spain, either....

As for Central American players...I don't think there are any names worth mentioning. Their players either play for very crappy leagues, or play in second-rated European teams. The last important name that popped up there was Yorke who played for Manchester United a while ago.

As for North American players...only names that bear mentioning are Rafa Marquez from Mexico and Landon Donovan from US.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I have NO respect for Landon Donovan, running away from Europe like a little bitch. "I miss the food and I'm home sick"


right....

[dano13]

That match really proved how Argentina fans are really just vandals. ....

snip.



Vandals? It's not like every other country in the world are angels when it comes to soccer, minus the Americans. European soccer gangs, what about the Inter-Milan game?

[Liquid Fists]

I have NO respect for Landon Donovan, running away from Europe like a little bitch. "I miss the food and I'm home sick"


right....

OK, go to Europe and see how long you last before you start to miss America. Besides they offered him quite a bit of money.

[Golden_Gunman]

Thanks Lantis for the info, but I know about all those guys as they are all established "stars" now. I was hoping you could tip me off on future prospects. River Plate, Boca Juniors, Corinthians, Cruzeiro, Santos, Palmeiras and many more always seem to bring through good palyers. Who are the top scorers in the Argentine and Brazillian leagues? What abotu Javier Maschareno? I have heard he is supposed to be brilliant, but I haven't seen too much of him. Same with Carlos Tevez. Didn't he sign for Corinthians or some gayness like that? He was being bigged up to be some sort of god. What's he really like?

As for Riquleme, the jury is still out on him in my opinion. Yeah he had a good season, but he couldn't cut it at Barcelona. It will be interesting to see how far he goes.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

OK, go to Europe and see how long you last before you start to miss America. Besides they offered him quite a bit of money.



I lived in England for 14 years before I came over here in '02 so I'd have no problem with it. And there's no way Landon would earn more money over here than playing for a team like Leverkusen(sp). Either way Donovan's actions seem to be a tremendous cop-out, probably cos he wasn't getting 1st team football, or because the pace of the European game is a lot faster than it is over here.

Which ever it was I just can't respect it, especially when you have a guy like Brian Mcbride, who went through much of the same throughout this season, not playing many games at all and playing in one of, if not the fastest football league in europe and STILL
sticking at it.




Also on the subject Riquelme and the others. most of these guys particularly Riquelme were bing played out of postion and which different roles than they were used to. If you ever watch old Boca games you see alotta similarities between Riquelme there and his current role at Villareal. So it's not that he "couldn't cut it" Barce managers made the mistake of getting the best out of the players. sad really.

[ryu-bi]

anyone watched today's game argentina vs mexico?

i think 2 of the mexicans got sent home for doping or something but I dunno who they are...

[Garou]

Vandals? It's not like every other country in the world are angels when it comes to soccer, minus the Americans. European soccer gangs, what about the Inter-Milan game?


Its Hell on earth when England and Scotland Play each other..
The Hooligans are by the worst ever.

[Lantis]

anyone watched today's game argentina vs mexico?

i think 2 of the mexicans got sent home for doping or something but I dunno who they are...

I saw the game...I laughed my damn ass off. Once again, Mexico proves how they just LOVE to choke under pressure. Just look at the last 3 World Cups, or the last America Cup...they play kickass first round, but when entering an elimination round...they suck. They choke. They even had the lead today IN FUCKIN' OVERTIME...and they blew it. And lo and behold...they lost in penalties AGAIN! Heh heh, that will add to the ancient legend that Mexico is cursed in penalties...I think it will run as long as the Boston Red Sox curse. :rofl:

The mexicans sent home were Aaron Galindo and Salvador Carmona...what's weird is that the directives had told the press that it wasn't because of doping off the bat, but then the FIFA demanded an explanation, and that's where the doping shit came out. Ha ha, suckers.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

anyone watched today's game argentina vs mexico?

i think 2 of the mexicans got sent home for doping or something but I dunno who they are...

They got sent home because other menbers of the team voted for them to go home, something about the conditions or salary

[Lantis]

They got sent home because other menbers of the team voted for them to go home, something about the conditions or salary

Conditions? Then they would have gone against the players of Chivas, what with all their permissions to go play the Copa Libertadores and shit. Salary? Then they should have expelled Rafa Marquez, who is the only player who is in an European team right now (and in Barcelona, no less).

It was said that it was due to "disciplinary issues" which can only lead to 2 reasons: doping or "partying". And I'm pretty sure it's official that it was due to doping.

[NapaSelect]

Mexico loses to Argentina due to PK's. I'm not suprised due to the fact that Mexico isn't very good with Penalties. And you could sorta notice the lack of Penalty experience in Oswaldo Sanchez (the keeper).

As for the 2 players from Mexico that were sent home is was due to failure in drug testing if i'm correct. Thankfully they were sent home before FIFA had gotten their chance at them. Cuz if FIFA had found out first who knows what type of punishment they would've recieved

[dano13]

I didn't think Mexico was much of a threat the entire game. Argentina had too many chances they missed. We should've put it away early...

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Conditions? Then they would have gone against the players of Chivas, what with all their permissions to go play the Copa Libertadores and shit. Salary? Then they should have expelled Rafa Marquez, who is the only player who is in an European team right now (and in Barcelona, no less).

It was said that it was due to "disciplinary issues" which can only lead to 2 reasons: doping or "partying". And I'm pretty sure it's official that it was due to doping.


If it was doping they wouldn't have been merely sent home, the Mexican FA would have done alot more. Not only that FIFA would have probably done something aswell, as it a FIFA tournament.

Partying is a possibility, but I've asked alot of hispanics who I play soccer with, nobody knows for sure but there was a mention of money and "conditions"




Edit: NVM it was banned substances

[Liquid Fists]

Who do you think is going to win in the final? I think Brazil will pull this one together and win it, especially after being spanked in the WCQ match.

[NapaSelect]

I have a feeling this will be a very close match. Anyone know if both teams are playing full squad or are they missing some players? As for who wins.....idk i think it'll be too close of a match. But i think whoever wins will only have a 1 goal lead near the end of the game.

[ryu-bi]

anyone knows who have to miss the final / 3rd place match due to cards?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

saviola, marquez, morales possibly to imjury

[ryu-bi]

wow both of today's match is awesome

all of the big name european club players showed they are really that good

[EveryFlowerFlow]

wow both of today's match is awesome

all of the big name european club players showed they are really that good


except the argentine players :clap:

[Lantis]

Yeah, WTF happened to Argentina? They just pussied out...sure, they defeated Brazil 3-1 in the qualifiers, but that's NOTHING compared to losing 4-1 in an official tournament...ouch.

Oh yeah, and did you see Coloccini tackle Ramon Morales (Mexico) like Superman? Man, that was hella dirty...no wonder he got booed for the rest of the match.

[ryu-bi]

except the argentine players :clap:

i think aimar also plays for a europe club...

[Star Platinum]

so what was the score today I missed the games

[Lantis]

i think aimar also plays for a europe club...

He plays in Valencia, IIRC.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

so what was the score today I missed the games


Germany 4 Mexico 3
Brazil 4 Argentina 1


and yeah Aimar is Valencia, not that he did much there this season

[Liquid Fists]

Brilliant games today, I watched both of them and they were both awesome matches. I knew Brazil was going to pull through and win the Confederations cup. Argentina just lacked offensive pressure, and they paid for it in the end. Aimar had an awesome goal though. But Adriano is a forced to be reckoned with, scoring two goals against Germany, and then to go and score two more goals in the final! I think Ronaldo better up his performance if he wants to stay on the Brazilian team.

[dano13]

I totally forgot to come back here after confederations.

I think the Argentine teams was really tired. I mean they played a really hard game against Mexico, full game, plus 30 and PK. They had a day less to rest. Not excuses, just might add a little explanation as to Arg's bad showing.

[FreddyL0c0]

Just cause I love soccer, and any news can be entertaining.

With Gerrard officially staying, and Figo hopefully joining, Liverpool will certainely be the team to watch (Morientes will also have to prove himself fully), as the champs will have most eyes on them as defending champs or chumps.

Crespo sucks, and Chelsea got screwed in the Milan deal, too bad Tores couldnt go to chelsea.

Glazer : wait and see, although my intial perception hasnt really changed: it doesnt look good.

Poor Real, they've been trying forever to get Robhino, now they have to wait once again.... Oh and It seems thir getting rid of Solari and Samuel (the later didnt have a good year true, but he is really good). Nevetheless, Inter is gonn a be a force to be reckoned with, especially now that they got rid of Vieri, in favor of a far more capable Martins.

Arsenal : uh oh. They still havent done shit all to save their situation

As for world cup qualifiers, if things remain the same, France and Greece wont make it.


And Brazil has the best team its had in years, they are too good.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

snip


Figo is over the hill, Liverpool need to should be looking elsewhere if they want to seriously challege for any titles this coming season. Really they shoulda sold Gerrard and used the $80-90 million dollars they would have got to rebuild the team.

I'll never understand why people say Crespo sucks, he had a decent season at Chealsea 2 years ago and a great one in Milan last year even though he didn't win anything.

I'm a ManU fan the whole Glazer thing has pissed me off, however the recent interview one of the sons did has reassured me a little.


I hate Arsenal. so the longer they go without any major signing the better :tup: apparently they are bidding for Robinho too.

Another Brazilian that could be moving is Ronaldinho to Chealsea for between $80-100 million, but I personally doubt that'll happen.

[ryu-bi]

I totally forgot to come back here after confederations.

I think the Argentine teams was really tired. I mean they played a really hard game against Mexico, full game, plus 30 and PK. They had a day less to rest. Not excuses, just might add a little explanation as to Arg's bad showing.

all this because figuroa missed an empty goal tap-in late in the extra period...

[FreddyL0c0]

whatever, Argentina were NOT impressive at all in their last two games.

Mexico should have taken the game against them, and the team rarely looked very threatening. Aimar's goal was nice though, it was good to see him involved again, unlike riquelme who failed to impress, although he was extremely well covered. figuroa should have buried it.

[dano13]

Argentina not impresive, consequently not their WC lineup either. That was Mexico's A-Team right? I know Brazil left a few great players at home also. We can only hope they get their act together next june.

[dano13]

Bump. No one has anything to say about the Real Madrid vs LA Galaxy game? No news?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

The match was pretty boring at the start of the second half.
I stoppped watching at about th 63' minute.

News? well, i'm sure everyone knows about Viera moving to Juve, Gilardinho finally moving to Milan (AC). Ashley Cole signed a new deal with Arsenal. and of course Shawn Wright-Phillips, son on Arsenal legend, Ian Wright moved from Man City to Chelsea for 36.8 million.

[Lantis]

There is some interest for Luis Figo in Inter Milan, where they are only willing to pay $7 million USD for his services. I guess Figo can't complain...age is already getting to him.

And there is always the whole Robinho-Real Madrid drama.

And anybody watching the Gold Cup? Hah hah, Mexico got punked by Colombia...That last goal came out of NOWHERE, I wasn't even expecting that guy to score with such a lousy kick...then again, so wasn't the goalie, heh heh. Oh well, the table is truly set for the US to win it, I guess.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Any of you guys play Football Manager/Worldwide soccer manager or PES4/WE8 online?

looking for online games in these

[Lantis]

I have Winning Eleven 8 (the best soccer game ever made...fuck those FIFA turds), but since I have the 56Lame, online gaming is out of the question for me.... :sad:

[EveryFlowerFlow]

damn guess im suck getting my ass beat by Japs, Brazilians and Europeans :sad:

[Lantis]

Hah hah, the world is indeed small...that's why I'm scared shitless of online gaming. Better stay home and pretend that I'm still good in that game. :xeye:

[Birdsick]

Just thought I would dig this thread up because the new season is well underway. Have people changed their opinions yet? All of my predictions in this thread have come true or are well on their way to coming true . What about yours? :badboy:

[L4undry]

Chelsea is running away with it. and it doesn't look like their slowing down anytime soon. They finally conceded a goal after like 7 games. But watching their games are like watching your pet rock. It's so boring with their 4-5-1 formation. They'll score one or two goals early on and then defend the rest of the game.

Man U and Arsenal have slumped down quite a bit, as a good a amount of their roster is on injury leave. I'm suprised at West Ham, they're really holding their own having just come in to the Premiership. Newcatle might be up and coming with Michael Owen finally shining as the striker they paid for.

Italian soccer is going on strong as well. I'm really rooting for Inter to take it. With Samuel Adrianno and Martins, they're playing hard. They're due to face Juve soon. They're tearing it up in Champions League, but then again, most of the big teams are as well.

[aktham]

I am a huge soccer fan and i'm glad to see that there's already a thread on SRK

favorite players Ronaldinho and Ronaldo (like Ronaldinho better:wow: )
favorite national teams Brazil and Nigeria
favorite clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid (where my favorite players are/go)

I have played soccer all my life and my style is a mix between the Ronals and recently i have gotten into Freestyling. (i can juggle for a long time and do a few tricks, but after watching some videos i think i have enough ball control and awareness to become a good freestyler):karate:

and yes I am a Brazil fanboy:badboy:

[dano13]

Argentina still first. couple more qualifiers. 7 months left.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

...favorite clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid (where my favorite players are/go)





you can't like both Barce and Real. that's just wrong

[FreddyL0c0]

the man above is right, as much as I respect barcelona and recognize how amazing ronaldhino is, I would always want real madrid to beat them. Big grudge between the two teams.


Im rooting for inter to win at least Serie A tis year, I really like their team. Ac Milan too have stepped up big time by getting rid of Crespo, yet they now have Vieri.


Liverpools vs chelsea match was a sore to see, especially for the bad ref decisions. I know I know, refs make constant stupid mistake, but it doesnt change the fact that two possible penalities could have hindered chelsea's chance of getting through the table if Betis start to gets on fire. I really want Liverpool and Betis to progress through, but thats just wishful thinking at this stage.

[mvsc2demon]

I am a huge soccer fan and i'm glad to see that there's already a thread on SRK

favorite players Ronaldinho and Ronaldo (like Ronaldinho better:wow: )
favorite national teams Brazil and Nigeria
favorite clubs Barcelona and Real Madrid (where my favorite players are/go)

I have played soccer all my life and my style is a mix between the Ronals and recently i have gotten into Freestyling. (i can juggle for a long time and do a few tricks, but after watching some videos i think i have enough ball control and awareness to become a good freestyler):karate:

and yes I am a Brazil fanboy:badboy:
:tup:
check out the vid i have in myspace profile
you probably seen it already
http://www.myspace.com/7403843

[Lantis]

Yeah, if you say you like Barcelona and Real Madrid, that's as bad as saying that you like both the Yankees AND the Red Sox. Just no....

:rofl: OMG Vieri playing for the eternal rival of his old team, Inter Milan? That will certainly give him HUGE heat when Milan plays against Inter. It's kinda like when Figo went to play for Real Madrid when he was on Barcelona...he got no mercy from the crowd when he played in Barcelona's field. :confused:

I also saw the most incredible thing happen in the Mexican league 3 days ago...a team was winning 3-0 in the last minute, and the opposing team gets a penalty kick in their favor. They score, whoopee doo, 3-1, make the score more decent. Winning team kicks off, losing team recovers, gets corner kick, GOAL! 3-2. Winning team kicks off, losing team recovers, drive it to the area, some striker is being overwhelmed by defenders and SOMEHOW tips the ball over the goalkeeper, and scores! 3-3 in about 3 minutes! FUCKIN' CRAZY! :wow:

Oh yeah, more qualified WC teams since last time:

- Brazil
- United States (upon defeating Mexico, LOLCOPTER!11!)
- Mexico
- Ukraine (these guys are no fuckin' joke)

France still has a chance as they won in Belfast vs. Ireland. And Spain is about to lose it. :clap:

[mvsc2demon]

I also saw the most incredible thing happen in the Mexican league 3 days ago...a team was winning 3-0 in the last minute, and the opposing team gets a penalty kick in their favor. They score, whoopee doo, 3-1, make the score more decent. Winning team kicks off, losing team recovers, gets corner kick, GOAL! 3-2. Winning team kicks off, losing team recovers, drive it to the area, some striker is being overwhelmed by defenders and SOMEHOW tips the ball over the goalkeeper, and scores! 3-3 in about 3 minutes! FUCKIN' CRAZY! :wow:
WOW, cuales equipos eran! I need to record the highlights of these tomorrow since i know they might passed them on Republica Deportiva!

[Lantis]

WOW, cuales equipos eran! I need to record the highlights of these tomorrow since i know they might passed them on Republica Deportiva!

It was Jaguares of Chiapas (the winning team) vs. Tecos of the UAG (losing team).

[aktham]

the thing is I don't really like teams, i like the players and therefore i cheer for the team that my favorite players play on.

just an example:

NFL: Randy Moss and Michael Vick
NBA: Michael Jordan(retired so i no longer like the bulls) and Shaq
MLB: boring but i like Yankees (highlights and WS only)
FIFA: already mentioned

[Birdsick]

EDIT: I misread, I thought you put Vieira not Vieri!

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Anyone here use these?

If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, get these programs:

http://s13.invisionfree.com/Off_The_Bench/index.php?showtopic=2

Use them to watch lives games from your PC

Anyway, for listings and links for todays games visit either of these sites:

http://www.tvmix.net/
http://www.asiaplate.com/live.today.htm [Credit: tomdamasta]

Both are great sites and between them you should be able to find most games. If you have any questions about the programs/streams etc ask in here and I'm sure we can help you. :)


I recommend PPLive, I'm using it to watch the Liverpool v Chelsea game right now.

2-1 Chelsea so far

[ryu-bi]

where's the fun if i dont understand what the heck are they saying...

[FreddyL0c0]

well liverpool got completely trashed by chelsea. Althouh its still early, as games go by, Chelsea seem to more and more have a solid grip on the epl.

i just read today about van nistelroy's desire to play at real madrid, and I shrugged. Although they might have been interested in the player before, I see no point in Madrid to get him, he should really ust end his career at united.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

where's the fun if i dont understand what the heck are they saying...


don't you watch La liga or Serie A. if your not fluent in italian or spanish your pretty much at a loss anyway.

Besides it's better than paying cable PPV fees

[ryu-bi]

don't you watch La liga or Serie A. if your not fluent in italian or spanish your pretty much at a loss anyway.

Besides it's better than paying cable PPV fees

i usually avoid matches that are not in a languague i understand...

you gotta agree its better to know whats going on, even though it means i have to wait a couple hours for ppl to post it on BT

[mvsc2demon]

Mexico under17 beat brazil for the world title:rock:

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Mexico under17 beat brazil for the world title:rock:

yeah man 3-0. They say that Giovanni Dos Santos kid will be the next Ronaldinho. He's already at Barcelona, and from what i've seen in his games they're probably right.

[Lantis]

Yeah, seriously, those Mexican kids really played kickass soccer throughout the tournament. It's kinda funny how these kids gave Mexico a satisfaction that the main team could never EVER grant them in a hundred years. These guys SHOULD be the future of the Mexican team...whereas nowadays they have to resort to foreign players who have to convert to Mexican-ism to play for them (i.e. Guillermo Franco).

I mean, look at them. They defeated Brazil 3-0 in the finals. BRAZIL! And in the semifinals, they defeated Netherlands 4-0! I bet you will never see that shit in next year's WC.

Now I'm hearing that teams like Chelsea and Real Madrid have thrown an eye on them...let's hope it comes true, and don't become bench warmers like Jared Borgetti. :bluu:

[L4undry]

The European World Cup qualifier matches are going today. England beat Austria 1-0 but from the looks of it, they're not at all raedy to face Poland tommorow. It'll be a sad sight if England doesn't make it to Germany, but with how they're playing I wouldn't be surprised.

I also caught the Holland-Czech Republic match today. Netherlands look really strong. I'm expecting them to be strong throughout the tournament.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Nigeria aren't going to the world cup

*smh*

Beckham got sent off again, fucking retard

[EveryFlowerFlow]

You guys here about Jay-z looking to buy Arsenal? If it happens he'd be the only talent in the squad. :karate:

[NapaSelect]

lol omg are u serious? The fans would probably be pissed if Jay-Z bought the club. I mean look at.........was it Man Utd that got bought by the Bucaneers owner?

[FreddyL0c0]

k, Ljungberg, Bergkamp,Reyes and even Henry whom i despise the most out of a team i hate all have more talent than Jay-Z, whom i evidently despise. so yeanh.

[Lantis]

World Cup teams qualified:

- Germany
- Argentina
- Brazil
- Ecuador
- Paraguay
- United States
- Mexico
- Costa Rica
- Japan
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- South Korea
- Togo :wtf:
- Tunisia
- Ghana
- Ivory Coast :wtf:
- Netherlands
- England
- Polland
- Italy :tup:
- Ukraine
- Portugal

[EveryFlowerFlow]

lol omg are u serious? The fans would probably be pissed if Jay-Z bought the club. I mean look at.........was it Man Utd that got bought by the Bucaneers owner?


I woulda rather had jay-z than 'Ze Glazers'

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Well, on a side note no football for me for a while. Tore my MCL while playing for Cal State EB :sad:

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Damn where are you guys? :confused:

Anyone here played PES5 yet? that game is straight crack. havent been able to stop playing it since I 'got' it

[Ryu & Ken]

Yes I got this game and classic Argentina is my fav team but I swear Alfredo Di Stephano isn't in there.

Also I can't wait for NOV 12th for Argentina vs England

[Ryumexicano]

Go Mexico!!!!!!!!!! :D

Ryu

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Fuck Chelsea


that is all :tup:

[X-Sapphire]

Korea hasn't qualified yet? They did pretty good last world cup, hope they can make it to this one. Can't wait for the next world cup, it's this summer right?

[EveryFlowerFlow]

South Korea will be there and yes it's next summer

[Garou]

World Cup teams qualified:

- Germany
- Argentina
- Brazil
- Ecuador
- Paraguay
- United States
- Mexico
- Costa Rica
- Japan
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- South Korea
- Togo :wtf:
- Tunisia
- Ghana
- Ivory Coast :wtf:
- Netherlands
- England
- Polland
- Italy :tup:
- Ukraine
- Portugal


I hope Brazil does not win the next one...
I would sure like to England win it so they RIOT the #^&! out of the country..

Or maybe some other country....

Go US!
Mexico will job to any team in the quarterfinals.. If they get that far...

[L4undry]

Chelsea finally got beaten, and by Man U no less. The tables are so jank right now, except for Chelsea being on top. Arsenal and Man U are like 5th and 6th and Wigan, the new team, is still up on second. Man City is doing pretty well too. I'm cheering for them.

A couple more weeks and the tables will sort themselves out. Liverpool is eating shit at the bottom somewhere, just the way I like it.

[Ryumexicano]

Mexico will take this one. Truste me, I know :P Mexico will take this one.......

I had a dream. I know it :D ..........


Ryu

[Garou]

Mexico will take this one. Truste me, I know :P Mexico will take this one.......

I had a dream. I know it :D ..........


Ryu


What if they dont?

[FreddyL0c0]

Thats weird, the only English team I actually enjoy watching is Liverpool. Nothing like watching Gerrard run all over the field for 90 minutes.

I havent freakin watched a single La Liga match; Te race sounds pretty interesting once again.

Osasuna on top???? Damn

Barcelona seem to e getting back to their feets. Do people believe that Messi is out-performing Ronladhino? I know he's young and what not, but he certainely seems faster than Ronnie.


Real Madrid are in big trouble if more of their players contiue to have constant injuires left and right. As much as Im a fan of theirs, I do not see them winning La liga. Robinho hasnt done jack shit. I guess the blame could go to Luxembourgo's instance on the team to play a more brazilian style format; Sure, when it works they kick ass, but when it doesnt, they get shutted down so badly and end up looking pathetic.


What team are u guys thinking will win the C.L.?

I know its early and these results tend to be random sometimes (see porto and liverpool)

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I gotta go with Barcelona for the CL this year.

[Liquid Fists]

I think Arsenal will get pretty far in the CL, only if they stay healthy. And if they don't sign big names in January I will lose hope in them.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I think Arsenal will get pretty far in the CL, only if they stay healthy. And if they don't sign big names in January I will lose hope in them.


They just signed that U-17 Mexican striker, Vela? And apparently they want to buy Fernando Torres from Atlhetico Madrid.

[Ryu & Ken]

Argentina vs England tomorrow

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Argentina vs England tomorrow


Yes indeed, one of the female roomates I live with is from Argentina. Whoever loses has to make dinner for everyone in the house.

COME ON ENGLAND!

[Garou]

Argentina vs England tomorrow


Time and Channel please...

I wonder if these 2 had made up since that incident with the Islands..

[Ryu & Ken]

Well I am supporting Argentina, oh how Maradona has made a impression with me.

BBC1 at 16.35 , that 4.35 PM and no they hate each other more now.

[Ryu & Ken]

Yes indeed, one of the female roomates I live with is from Argentina. Whoever loses has to make dinner for everyone in the house.

COME ON ENGLAND!

Also are you supporting England cause you are English OR are you American and the Argentine girl is a better cook than ur English house mates

[Liquid Fists]

I think England will pull this one out 3-1.

[Ryu & Ken]

I think England will pull this one out 3-1.

I reckon Argentina will win

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Also are you supporting England cause you are English OR are you American and the Argentine girl is a better cook than ur English house mates


I'm English. I just live in America


1-1 @ Half Time


Crespo and Rooney

[EveryFlowerFlow]

2-1 Argentina

Ayala scores :sad:

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Yeah!

3-2 England. great game

I don't understand why none of the big clubs bid for Michael Owen. proven goal scorer on all levels.

[Liquid Fists]

England wins 3-2! Owen proves himself again.

[Ryu & Ken]

Yeah!

3-2 England. great game

I don't understand why none of the big clubs bid for Michael Owen. proven goal scorer on all levels.

HEY he's doing alright in Newcastle and good ole England win

[EveryFlowerFlow]

HEY he's doing alright in Newcastle and good ole England win


but it's newcastle lol

[Liquid Fists]

but it's newcastle lol


But if he keeps up with his good form, he might lead his team to a top 5 finish. If the young prospects work with Owen and Shearer I think they easily get into UEFA Cup or maybe even Champions League action for next year.

USA tied Scotland 1-1 in what was a boring uneventful game. USA had most of the possesion but couldn't beat Scotland's defense for what I thought was lack of creativity on the part of the United States.

[ClouDC]

Uruguay won 1-0 against Australia

!!Yay!! :party:

[Liquid Fists]

Not a big accomplishment, Australia has never been a strong team.

[ClouDC]

yeah... but now Uruguay is almost certain of going to the world cup...

[Liquid Fists]

MLS Cup Final on now! still 0-0 in the second half.

[Ryu & Ken]

But if he keeps up with his good form, he might lead his team to a top 5 finish. If the young prospects work with Owen and Shearer I think they easily get into UEFA Cup or maybe even Champions League action for next year.

USA tied Scotland 1-1 in what was a boring uneventful game. USA had most of the possesion but couldn't beat Scotland's defense for what I thought was lack of creativity on the part of the United States.

shame Shearer is retiring this year from football

[Liquid Fists]

I believe he was going to retire before last season but put that on hold to try and get into European action? I'm not quite sure why, but you never know, he might stay another season now that Owen is around.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

I believe he was going to retire before last season but put that on hold to try and get into European action? I'm not quite sure why, but you never know, he might stay another season now that Owen is around.


Shearer is retiring this year. The only reason he stayed another year is because he was something like 9 goals away from being Newcastle's alltime top scorer. He has somewhere between 3-5 goals left to beat it.

[Liquid Fists]

LA Galaxy won the MLS Cup Final 1-0 in overtime, I wanted the Revolution to win, but they couldn't get it together to score a goal.

[ryu-bi]

Yeah!

3-2 England. great game

I don't understand why none of the big clubs bid for Michael Owen. proven goal scorer on all levels.

not too many clubs are fond of paying twice the money to Madrid when they acquired owen less than a year ago

[Liquid Fists]

He went to Real Madrid simply for the hype that they were a supposed better team. He goes there and then Liverpool wins the CL so he wants out.

I wouldn't want him back if I was Liverpool.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Congrats Austrailia

Uruguay are going nowhere next year

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Wow Roy Keane has left Man United
(http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=326194&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=3&title=KEANE+LEAVES+RED+DEVILS&channel=premiership)

[Theycalledhim Alan]

Please tell me you hacked into sky and made this fake article in order to piss me off .

Pretty fucking please.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Please tell me you hacked into sky and made this fake article in order to piss me off .

Pretty fucking please.


it's no joke man :sad: :sad: :sad:


end of an era...........

[Theycalledhim Alan]

I wonder when the Red Devils will once more take the triple crown..

They make me cry now. :sad:

[Lantis]

So, we now have the 32 teams that will play the World Cup next summer:

AMERICA
- United States
- Mexico
- Costa Rica
- Trinidad and Tobago
- Argentina
- Brazil
- Ecuador
- Paraguay

ASIA
- Japan
- South Korea
- Saudi Arabia
- Iran

OCEANIA
- Australia

AFRICA
- Angola
- Ivory Coast
- Tunisia
- Ghana
- Togo

EUROPE
- Germany (host country)
- France
- Ukraine
- Netherlands
- Italy
- England
- Poland
- Serbia and Montenegro
- Portugal
- Sweden
- Croatia
- Spain
- Switzerland
- Czech Republic

The groups will be determined on December 6th

[Liquid Fists]

Wow, what a shock. Keane gone from Man U. To think he showed up for practice in the morning and then by afternoon he's gone. He will probably be going to Celtic and playing out the rest of his career there.

[Ryu & Ken]

Man Barcelona vs Real Madrid is a wicked match, Barca are running riot, with Eto, Ronaldiho, Messi and Deco stealing the show.

Barca are winning 1-0 and its only half time and its being played in Real Madrid's backyard

[Ryu & Ken]

So, we now have the 32 teams that will play the World Cup next summer:

AMERICA
- United States
- Mexico
- Costa Rica
- Trinidad and Tobago
- Argentina
- Brazil
- Ecuador
- Paraguay

ASIA
- Japan
- South Korea
- Saudi Arabia
- Iran

OCEANIA
- Australia

AFRICA
- Angola
- Ivory Coast
- Tunisia
- Ghana
- Togo

EUROPE
- Germany (host country)
- France
- Ukraine
- Netherlands
- Italy
- England
- Poland
- Serbia and Montenegro
- Portugal
- Sweden
- Croatia
- Spain
- Switzerland
- Czech Republic

The groups will be determined on December 6th

Man T & T I think will be lucky to past the 1st round, Saudi Arabia and Iran better start doing their 5 prayers each day NOW.
Africa, no Cameron or Nigeria, I will be surprised if any past the first round but you never know.
Serbia & Mont, I think will be knocked out in the first round

[Ryu & Ken]

2-0 to Barca and Ronaldiho scored and done a semi Maradona from 1986 against England and I ain't talking about la mano de Dios either

[ReptarBar]

Keane leaving ManU was bound to happen. Relations between him and Ferguson weren't getting any better. :xeye:

As for the World Cup, I believe England and the Netherlands, but England specifically, will go very far in next year's competition as opposed to their previsious performances in the finals.

edit: Damn you Abhi, I would kill to be able to watch that fixture right now. Freaking US sports channels and their college football games 24 fucking 7.

[Liquid Fists]

Yeah, the only matches I get here are MLS, Serie A and EPL. I would kill to recieve CL or La Liga Games.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

Real got killed by Barca. :tup:

Roma got killed by Juve. :tdown:


CL, the good Serie A games and La Liga are on Direct TV.

[Ryu & Ken]

Keane leaving ManU was bound to happen. Relations between him and Ferguson weren't getting any better. :xeye:

As for the World Cup, I believe England and the Netherlands, but England specifically, will go very far in next year's competition as opposed to their previsious performances in the finals.

edit: Damn you Abhi, I would kill to be able to watch that fixture right now. Freaking US sports channels and their college football games 24 fucking 7.

well I saw it on sky sports and its was 3-0 and Ronlandiho scored again

[ReptarBar]

Yeah, the only matches I get here are MLS, Serie A and EPL. I would kill to recieve CL or La Liga Games.

Serie A on Sunday mornings and EPL on Tuesday afternoons right? :lol:

[Liquid Fists]

Yup.

[EveryFlowerFlow]

wth??? what kind or service do you guys have? La Liga, Serie A and EPL games are always played on saturday and sunday. sometimes monday, hardly ever on tuesday.

no wonder you guys can't watch game live :wow:

[Liquid Fists]

They are all taped versions of the games. Only an occasional live game here and there of an Arsenal, or Man U game.

[Theycalledhim Alan]

If it isn't college football it's fucking lumberjack competitions. I'd kill to get some Premiership matches.. or La Liga... or Serie A.. or the Bundesliga.. or ANYTHING! :sad:

[Ryu & Ken]

I was watching Inter vs Parma, Inter won 2-0 BUT the dude was saying How Fiorentina are playing Roma next week and they still haven't forgiven Roma for getting the