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vegita-x
07-02-2005, 09:16 AM
ok this thread is for the use of expressing my opinion so you do not have to repliy if u don't want to.

Let me start with I'm just tired of reading up on everyone talking about mvc2 like its carbage or something.
First of all to everyone that like mvc2 and hate the game. this is a team base game so which mean certain assist characters will me mashed on. if you have a problem with that go and play 3s or tekken 5 please.

Second. Every game has its top teir from tekken to street fighter. Tekken 4 and 5 is by far the worst games ever. I mean one lunch and you lose have your life and depending on if your on the wall or not 50% to 70% damaged after one hit, man whatever. Tekken tag was good but thats the past, So to all and I do mean all you people that say tekken 5 is greater than MVC2 just put the crack pipe down. Now that mainly go's out to people hating on mvc2 and actually try to explain why mvc2 is garbage and tekken 5 is great. I love tekken, been playing it since tekken 2 but when 4 came out man I just lost all respect for tekken. Huuuuuuuu Tekken Tag R.I.P

And last about 3s ,cvs2,ggxx. Now if u want a game a requires skills then I agree play 3s. But don't expect to have fun playing it. 3s=skill..but not fun.
Cvs2... love the game when it came out but come on lets not TALK ABOUT A GAME BEING BROKEN THE ONLY GAME I KNOW WHERE EVERYONE ENTIRE GAME PLAY IS BUILT AROUND ROLL CANCELLING, BUT I GUESS AFTER 3 YEARS OF IT EVERYONE THINKS ITS NORMAL. It had mad potential. CVS2=SOMEWHAT SKILLS...BUT A LITTLE FUN
GGXX...this game and mvc2 or about the same both or very fun to play. both do take skills to play. In neither game can someone come on and just press anything and win unlike tekken 4 and 5.
Even though both games has it bullshit about it both game are very fun to play....and isn't thats whats its all about.

so lets recap:
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s or CVS2.

You want to play a game that requires little or no skills but where by anyone can win if you just hit that person in the air. play TEKKEN 4 or 5.

If u want to play a game that requires skill but not the type of skills that 3s required. a game that at time is random but never the less is still fun. A game where someone who just started playing the game after 1 week will never win against someone who been playing for years(i.e Tekken 4 and 5) well play MVC2 or GGxx both or equal IMO.

Gamer Gone Bad
07-02-2005, 09:24 AM
This guy is saying what we're all thinking.

KinanO
07-02-2005, 09:25 AM
co-sign im tired of these stupid threads is marvel this and that,it want on to long,i wish the people that spent more time typing then playin the game would just do somethin constructive

RaishinX
07-02-2005, 09:28 AM
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s
This guy is saying what we're all thinking.
co-sign

The crack is strong within these ones...

TPK!
07-02-2005, 09:30 AM
actually I think 3s is pretty stupid becuase parrying is so easy

GG and Marvel are the only games that are fun and technical at the same time

Infested Jester
07-02-2005, 09:32 AM
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s


(crowd chanting)

ASSSSSSSS HOLE......ASSSSSSS HOLE........

KinanO
07-02-2005, 09:37 AM
(crowd chanting)

ASSSSSSSS HOLE......ASSSSSSS HOLE........

what game do u like anyway,let me guess, 3s,cvs2,or tekken, or maybe worst :confused:

maybe all you good at is smapping the threads :clap:

vegita-x
07-02-2005, 09:37 AM
(crowd chanting)

ASSSSSSSS HOLE......ASSSSSSS HOLE........

(crowd chanting)

YEAH YEAH ANOTHER 3S player.............LETS GIVE IT UP FOR HIM HE PLAYS 3S) let me guess u play ken/chun/yun...if u don't play this characters u must suck....o yeah thats right noone ever heard of u so it must be true...LET GIVE IT UP FOR HIM EVERYONE........ITS NOBODY......YEAH.....NOBODY.....YEAH...

jasegfstyle
07-02-2005, 09:43 AM
(crowd chanting)

ASSSSSSSS HOLE......ASSSSSSS HOLE........

this fool looks like his under a fake name anyway,he just like you said smapping the treads feeling sorry for himself just ignore people and have them talking to themseleves,its nothing more funnier then a dude talking ignorance to himself

like when they make those stupid threads "is marvel" JUST DONT REPLY, after while they would just have to face the music that there on there own :tup:

RaishinX
07-02-2005, 09:45 AM
what game do u like anyway,let me guess, 3s,cvs2,or tekken, or maybe worst :confused:

maybe all you good at is smapping the threads :clap:

How anyone could smap a thread...or how anyone could force a typo like that is beyond me.

IzunaDrop
07-02-2005, 09:45 AM
And last about 3s ,cvs2,ggxx. Now if u want a game a requires skills then I agree play 3s. But don't expect to have fun playing it. 3s=skill..but not fun.
Cvs2... love the game when it came out but come on lets not TALK ABOUT A GAME BEING BROKEN THE ONLY GAME I KNOW WHERE EVERYONE ENTIRE GAME PLAY IS BUILT AROUND ROLL CANCELLING, BUT I GUESS AFTER 3 YEARS OF IT EVERYONE THINKS ITS NORMAL. It had mad potential. CVS2=SOMEWHAT SKILLS...BUT A LITTLE FUN
GGXX...this game and mvc2 or about the same both or very fun to play. both do take skills to play. In neither game can someone come on and just press anything and win unlike tekken 4 and 5.
Even though both games has it bullshit about it both game are very fun to play....and isn't thats whats its all about.

so lets recap:
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s or CVS2.



Okay, first off, Third Strike and Capcom Vs. SNK 2 are two of the best and most fun fighting games ever. Guilty Gear..um...is okay at best...MvC2 is extremely fun as well.

What you said isn't the problem. The problem with most "advanced" fighting gamers is that they become so obsessed with the games that they lose the reason they started to play the games to begin with. Fun. Might I suggest to take a moment and enjoy the games, opposed to just trying to be the best in the entire world. When you're given a great game, don't complain. Just think, "Those games could have ended up like Shaq-Fu." Enjoy them. You can know all the skills you want in the games, but if you don't have fun it's pointless. It's good to know the advanced techniques, but do have fun to. It's a waste of your money if you don't.

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 09:52 AM
Super Turbo - Kof98 > everything else.

Infested Jester
07-02-2005, 09:53 AM
maybe all you good at is smapping the threads :clap:


Somebody set up us the bomb. :tup:

EDIT:

this fool looks like his under a fake name anyway,he just like you said smapping the treads.

Holy fuck. :lol:

jasegfstyle
07-02-2005, 10:02 AM
Somebody set up us the bomb. :tup:

EDIT:



Holy fuck. :lol:

anyway im done wasteing my energy typin on you :clap: Infested Jester the nobody :clap:



Okay, first off, Third Strike and Capcom Vs. SNK 2 are two of the best and most fun fighting games ever. Guilty Gear..um...is okay at best...MvC2 is extremely fun as well.

What you said isn't the problem. The problem with most "advanced" fighting gamers is that they become so obsessed with the games that they lose the reason they started to play the games to begin with. Fun. Might I suggest to take a moment and enjoy the games, opposed to just trying to be the best in the entire world. When you're given a great game, don't complain. Just think, "Those games could have ended up like Shaq-Fu." Enjoy them. You can know all the skills you want in the games, but if you don't have fun it's pointless. It's good to know the advanced techniques, but do have fun to. It's a waste of your money if you don't.

i agree when you're given a great game, don't complain.i mean if someone gonna bitch about it then they must been getting PERFECT weekly or somethin,JUST HAVE FUN PEOPLE

Smokey
07-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Lol most of the time ppl who hate on mvc2 are ppl who have been owned hard and don't improve and I can't agree on what u said about 3s not beeing fun...it's pretty fun not as fun as mvc2 but still fun

Spirit Juice
07-02-2005, 10:29 AM
MvC2 sucks because no matter how hard you try, you'll never beat Justin Wong. Sorry, this is a fact of life. Close thread.

I'll hand it to MvC2 players though, the game is mad fun to watch... at times.

TempestFox
07-02-2005, 10:40 AM
MvC2 sucks because no matter how hard you try, you'll never beat Justin Wong. Sorry, this is a fact of life. Close thread.

I'll hand it to MvC2 players though, the game is mad fun to watch... at times.


Call the President on that one. :tup:

Justin is good, but he is flesh and has been taken down.

Though yeah, MvC2 has begun to get repetative, same matchups all the time, blah.

But this thread is the worst of it. Bitching about people bitching. Man, the internet is lame.

vegita-x
07-02-2005, 10:42 AM
MvC2 sucks because no matter how hard you try, you'll never beat Justin Wong. Sorry, this is a fact of life. Close thread.

I'll hand it to MvC2 players though, the game is mad fun to watch... at times.

jwong is a great player and yes I've had beaten justin before just not in tourny. and as i do recall is just lost 2 major tourny this year. And in anycase its just another reason to keep playing to perhaps one day be on that level if not pass that.

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 10:43 AM
Lol most of the time ppl who hate on mvc2 are ppl who have been owned hard and don't improve and I can't agree on what u said about 3s not beeing fun...it's pretty fun not as fun as mvc2 but still fun

Hmmm aren't most japanese people of the opinion this game sucks ass? Do you really think they are losing to the americans cause they are not as good or because they just don't give a shit? I think it to be the latter.

I can probably most of you guys at this game. Rush in to get mad air combo in, if fail back out and either spam helpers then rush that shit down again rinse and repeat. When everyone has the same attack patter with everyone, then I think we have a problem.

Before someone gets smart and says all fighting games can be broken down to hurt the other guy till you win, you are a complete moron. I don't care if you guys think this is the greatest fighting game ever. I love SS4 but a lot of people think it's shit. Hell if I care, I know the strenghts and flaws of the game, as a true fan I can do that.

All the top players have strong fundamentals built on the old street fighters, something a majority of you lack, welcome to the new generation, the generation of suck.

This game is dead anyways.

Spirit Juice
07-02-2005, 10:43 AM
True, but Sanford "retired"... even though we know no one quits playing MvC2. :)

Honestly, I think Marvel is starting to die. Game isn't evolving anymore, most top tier whored game (besides T4, perhaps) in existence, and people seem to be getting bored with it. If Seattle doesn't come to Evo this year that's the one more nail in the coffin. :\

ImPerfectCell
07-02-2005, 10:43 AM
I like 3s even though I suck at it. MVC2 is a great game and its a perfect example of how far people will go to innovate a game they love and find tactics to give them the slightest edge in a tournament match. Now, I believe there are many games that have much more glitches than this, but the only reason people haven't found out is because there is no other game where people devote as much time and attention to trying to bend the rules of a fighting engine. Its like the matrix: once you figure out all the rules and find ways to bend them, it opens the doorway to things you shouldnt be able to do. Many people hate the game because it seems that their are only 4 characters because different varriations of the same characters are used alot in tourneys. Even though in this game, the rules seem to be bent in favor of a select few characters, every character has the potential to win. Alot of players have proven that. Take a look at Vegita-X's Rogue/Storm/T-bonne which according to the "rules" should get raped by Santhrax and Justin's Morigan/Gambit/Cyke which some people would laugh at until they see him play it. Who really took Demon Hyo seriously when they first saw him pick Magneto/Iron Man/Anakaris? And Jmar constantly plays people who try to counter his MSS with MSP and he still finds a way to comeback. In my opinion, this game is alot more fun for people who ignore the rules.

koogy
07-02-2005, 10:45 AM
MvC2 is a skilled game no doubt, and the mix-ups and tricks never seem to end. However, nobody gives a shit anymore because only 2 people matter in it; Wong, and Sanford.

And stop being such a scrub about other games. Jesus, you sound worse then the usual scrubs on these boards.

DaDesiCanadian
07-02-2005, 11:05 AM
Why is it that only Marvel players bitch about this shit. Apparently, if you play Marvel, you're not allowed to like any other game.

Shinakuma: yeah, you're right. Most of the newer generation who jump into the VS series as their first competetive SF have no grounding in the more OG SF games, and consider them "stupid", or "boring." The players who started off with ST, or 3S etc., often have a better liking of ALL games, including the VS series.
Yeah, go generalizations.

Flooper
07-02-2005, 11:06 AM
actually I think 3s is pretty stupid becuase parrying is so easy

GG and Marvel are the only games that are fun and technical at the same time

Well if parrying is so easy you should take 1st at EVO this year am I right?

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 11:18 AM
True, but Sanford "retired"... even though we know no one quits playing MvC2. :)

Honestly, I think Marvel is starting to die. Game isn't evolving anymore, most top tier whored game (besides T4, perhaps) in existence, and people seem to be getting bored with it. If Seattle doesn't come to Evo this year that's the one more nail in the coffin. :\


Seattle didnt show up last year and they probably wont show up this year. Maybe JMar that would be about the extent.

Spirit Juice
07-02-2005, 11:24 AM
Seattle didnt show up last year and they probably wont show up this year. Maybe JMar that would be about the extent.

Then Marvel is doomed.

K-MaN
07-02-2005, 11:33 AM
I love how a strong passion for something can drive every bit of fun out of it.

Higher-Jin
07-02-2005, 11:36 AM
Why is it that only Marvel players bitch about this shit. Apparently, if you play Marvel, you're not allowed to like any other game.

Shinakuma: yeah, you're right. Most of the newer generation who jump into the VS series as their first competetive SF have no grounding in the more OG SF games, and consider them "stupid", or "boring." The players who started off with ST, or 3S etc., often have a better liking of ALL games, including the VS series.
Yeah, go generalizations.

I like cvs2 =(

I also think 3s is great.....in small doses :bgrin:

SiLLiEMutAfuKA
07-02-2005, 11:48 AM
3S being not fun?

Keep your little opinions to yourself.

PozerWolf
07-02-2005, 12:01 PM
*A bunch of bullshit*

Never post your opinions on the net and state them as facts, you only make yourself look like a fuckin' moron.

Tekken 5 a button masher? Blah ahahahahahahahaahah!!

3S and CvS2 have no fun and require purely skills?? Uh, no :tdown:
Whats the point of playing the game if isn't fun.

Also, about what game takes more skill... thats just opinion bullshit and nothing more.

Xenozip.
07-02-2005, 12:05 PM
You're tired of this shit, so you start another thread that will inevitably lead to the same shit?

Excellent! :tup:

Spirit Juice
07-02-2005, 12:08 PM
Mother fuckers need to stop bitchin and settle this over a fierce money match of PONG.

Ephidel
07-02-2005, 12:09 PM
You're tired of this shit, so you start another thread that will inevitably lead to the same shit?

Excellent! :tup:


...lol, hahaha...

MegamanDS
07-02-2005, 01:17 PM
its funny. i played tekken at family fun (top player arcade) and i mashed kicks with this 1 girl my friend told me to pick. i beat peopl who were high ranked with those stupid money scamming cards. lol

the girl kept spinning, i owned. btw, it was my first time playing. and the people i beat were not scrubs.

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 01:33 PM
its funny. i played tekken at family fun (top player arcade) and i mashed kicks with this 1 girl my friend told me to pick. i beat peopl who were high ranked with those stupid money scamming cards. lol

the girl kept spinning, i owned. btw, it was my first time playing. and the people i beat were not scrubs.

yes yes they were

ShinjiGohan
07-02-2005, 01:33 PM
what game do u like anyway,let me guess, 3s,cvs2,or tekken, or maybe worst :confused:

maybe all you good at is smapping the threads :clap:

Maybe he plays all of those games and more (including your beloved MvC2).

(crowd chanting)

YEAH YEAH ANOTHER 3S player.............LETS GIVE IT UP FOR HIM HE PLAYS 3S) let me guess u play ken/chun/yun...if u don't play this characters u must suck....o yeah thats right noone ever heard of u so it must be true...LET GIVE IT UP FOR HIM EVERYONE........ITS NOBODY......YEAH.....NOBODY.....YEAH...

If you're gonna say who he uses, the least you could do is be correct in your assumption. And oh lets see you had to name 15% of the possible cast in hopes of getting it right. What of the number of possible teams in MvC2 and the number of used teams? Theres like what 15 used teams out of 166,320 possible teams? That isn't even 1%.

Also who the fuck are you? Oh I see a nobbody calling someone else a nobody is very smart :rolleyes:

this fool looks like his under a fake name anyway,he just like you said smapping the treads feeling sorry for himself just ignore people and have them talking to themseleves,its nothing more funnier then a dude talking ignorance to himself


This is coming from someone that can't even spell "spamming"
correctly?

CrotchMonkey
07-02-2005, 01:57 PM
Holy fuck. :lol:
haha, seriously its time to abandon this part of the forums.

JohnnyEight
07-02-2005, 02:00 PM
What of the number of possible teams in MvC2 and the number of used teams? Theres like what 15 used teams out of 166,320 possible teams? That isn't even 1%.



Percentage is irrelevant. You get to play 15 (in fact, much more)team combinations in MvC2, more than the number of playable characters in any other game. By your reasoning adding 134 new, fun, and original characters to Tekken 5, none of them top tier, would make the game way worse, because the percentage of top tiers would change.

MagnetGenocide
07-02-2005, 02:16 PM
Im with Vegita-X on this one, If you don't like Marvel then shut your trap and go play another game. But plz stop bashing Mavel by saying it's dead or some other stupid shit like that. Just becase some top player decides to to quit, everyone jumps on the bandwagon and starts saying the same thing. I have been living in the IE for 3 years now and I have never seen the Marvel scene slow down or fade away. Every weekend I see new people palying at the Arcades. And it's true the only people that bitch about it are the people that get owned all the time, or the marvel players that like to sux on top players dicks.

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 02:33 PM
You know what last I checked this is shoryuken.com, so if someone wants to come and say they dont like MvC2 and they think it sucks. More power to them, they have that right. This is a fg forum after all, quit bitching.

Nokato
07-02-2005, 02:35 PM
I can understand Vegita-X wanting to vent about people complaining about MVC2, but this isn't something thats going to go away. I don't even mean about MVC2 in particular...when it comes to fighting games someones always going to have a different opinion which inevitably means someone is going to complain about a game. Whether its a logical or illogical reason behind their gripe people will complain.

I know this for fact, I know at my school hella people bitch about CVS2 without really understanding why they don't like it. Honestly, its what happens when people have a different opinion. Some people may have a sound reason as to why they hate a game but most don't and usually its just because they want to follow the bandwagon of what everyone else is saying. When people cry about how bad CVS2 is I just ignore and let them have their opinion because even when you try to explain something people don't want to hear it if its not in conjunction with their opinion. People hate what they don't understand.

Guardcrush
07-02-2005, 02:41 PM
CvS2 IS NOT all about roll canceling. Only people whom can't expand their mind think that way. Ino proved it to everyone at Evo by placing first with K-Groove. I know not everyone is like Ino, but he still proved it nontheless. The only character who benefits hardcore from roll canceling is Blanka with RC electricity. People who Roll cancel too much can get punished by it so quit crying like a lil slut because you suck at a game.

Legendary Gokou
07-02-2005, 03:08 PM
Tekken 4 and 5 is by far the worst games ever. I mean one lunch and you lose have your life and depending on if your on the wall or not 50% to 70% damaged after one hit, man whatever.


You're entitled to complain, but in this aspect I don't agree. MvC2 is kind of the same way. If your character dies and the opponent has Cable with meter, you're basically screwed.

Plus infinites and stuff.



Nothing against MvC2, just saying.

Zigmover21
07-02-2005, 03:12 PM
God, FGD is horrible these days.

You bitch about people dissing Marvel, then bash 3rd Strike. Nice going!!! If you want to make a difference, shut the fuck up, please!!!

Marvel has horrible balance. Just accept it. And it's horrible because the game is FIVE FUCKING YEARS OLD!!!! It's played out, over and done with. Are you so insecure that you can't accept the way things are?

Smokey
07-02-2005, 03:16 PM
True, but Sanford "retired"... even though we know no one quits playing MvC2. :)

Honestly, I think Marvel is starting to die. Game isn't evolving anymore, most top tier whored game (besides T4, perhaps) in existence, and people seem to be getting bored with it. If Seattle doesn't come to Evo this year that's the one more nail in the coffin. :\

Dude whocares about Marvel at Evo seriously it's on console nobody cares about console Marvel the true major for Marvel is ECC

BB Hood
07-02-2005, 03:28 PM
This is all opinions...but i am with Vegita but I think he did diss 3rd Strike back in his first post but I dont play that game. People will always diss a fighting game cause they either suck, don't play the game, or they are bored. Its just people who take it too serious or serious and attack back and forth is what keeps it going. Dont give in to others people's opinions to the point where you are flaming each other, tolerate there opinions and they might tolerate yours. If it doesn't work out then oh well ya know :/ . Oh and I love Marvel vs Capcom 2. Yea a lot of the same characters are used a lot of the time but that is why I don't use those characters. Use low tiers people :^)

Shizuma_15
07-02-2005, 03:33 PM
people who love mvc2..+1 :tup:
people who diss mvc2..-1 :tdown:

people who love 3s..+1 :tup:
people who diss 3s..-1 :tdown:

people who love T5..+1 :tup:
people who diss T5..-1 :tdown:

cvs2 and gg#r i just dont know anymore.... :shake:

kenmastersX
07-02-2005, 03:38 PM
What in the hell Patrick? You actually put Marvel and Guilty Gear on the same level? :rofl: I didn't think I'd see the day.

ryuu
07-02-2005, 03:54 PM
this justin nuthugging is getting on my nerves. justin's a player just like everyone else here, except without the whining about unbeatable players

bbq sauce
07-02-2005, 03:58 PM
So to all and I do mean all you people that say tekken 5 is greater than MVC2 just put the crack pipe down.
Rofl.

I agree with what you're saying here, but I disagree that 3S is no fun. I have as much fun with 3S as I do with Marvel.

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 04:00 PM
T5 is better then MvC2

Ry Guy
07-02-2005, 04:02 PM
You say Third Strike isn't a fun game? You have no authority on the subject of the fun other people have, you speak for none other than yourself. Stop pushing your opinion as fact and kindly go screw yourself.

kthxbai!

monkeyspank
07-02-2005, 04:11 PM
t5 gives me headaces..Its a fun game but after 5.1 its goina suckass...Cvs2 bleh that game is fun when i see japs play thats about it lol. Now marvel...marvel is awsome, although it can give headaces from time to time but still it makes u aware on how to block and shit IMO. GG#r its ok but i havent played it for a while.3s a highly skilled game IMO prolly the most outa them all.

Dont kill me plz :sad: ...

vegita-x
07-02-2005, 04:36 PM
T5 is better then MvC2


Yeah better off dead.
Please just explain why. I could write an entire book on why mvc2 is better then tekken. Can u please for the love of God explain to me. I'm sorry tekken 4 and 5

Higher-Jin
07-02-2005, 04:53 PM
Yeah better off dead.
Please just explain why. I could write an entire book on why mvc2 is better then tekken. Can u please for the love of God explain to me. I'm sorry tekken 4 and 5

I'm glad you are defending mvc2 dude but other games have alot of merit and there really isn't one game that's better than the other.

you simply prefer mvc2, just like some prefer 3s ect.

Joe R.
07-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Yeah better off dead.
Please just explain why. I could write an entire book on why mvc2 is better then tekken. Can u please for the love of God explain to me. I'm sorry tekken 4 and 5

N.O. is the shiznit. :tup:

nanitaberu
07-02-2005, 05:21 PM
Why do people try to compare games? Even saying 3S is for skill$ and MVC2 is for fun is wrong. They're both fun to play and takes skills. (Although I do agree Tekken is much more noobie friendly)

You can't compare 3D fighters with 2D fighters in ANY aspect other than the fun factor. And even the fun factor is only your personal opinion, because IMO Third Strike is the "funnest" fighting game to date.

You can't compare MVC2 with 3S or TEKKEN.. it's like asking if Diet Coke tastes better or Jet Li makes better Kung Fu movies. You can say that Jet Li is the DIET COKE of Kung Fu movies, which is like saying Parrying is broken because MVC2 doesn't have it. Well Parrying in MVC2 would be retarded, yet it enhances 3S greatly. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT GAMES.

Peace outside.

dbycrash
07-02-2005, 05:45 PM
the only thing that matters in this thread to me is that vegita-x is a fuckin incredible player who is being modest in not bringing it up. he is a top player in the game HE plays which means he knows what the fuck is up just from being in the actual gaming scene for as long as he has. until anyone else worth a fuck at the game THEY play, no matter what it be, says anything brash, haters can eat a dick. the end.

white shadow
07-02-2005, 05:48 PM
The moral of this story is...

Have Puyo Puyo Pop DS tournies @ EVO!!!:bgrin:

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 06:52 PM
Yeah better off dead.
Please just explain why. I could write an entire book on why mvc2 is better then tekken. Can u please for the love of God explain to me. I'm sorry tekken 4 and 5

Tekken 4 was crap.


I like T5 simply because it brings back alot of the T3/TTT shit with some new shit. With the added wall games, the oki, the high low mixups, the throws, the parries, etc etc etc.

Archer V2.0
07-02-2005, 07:04 PM
i agree with Vegeta-X

Tekken DOES suck.

Smokey
07-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Yeah i said to myself Tekken is new and it's gonna be cool and shit I gotta play as soon as it comes out but really after a week I couldn't even look at the game no more it fucking bored the shit outta me and most ppl I know play the game and say it's so cool but I know they just play it cuz a lot of ppl play. The game is just so boring

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 07:49 PM
Wow you guys stil going at it? And your best defence is " But look at how crappy this other game is " the equivalence of " Our pile of shit is much smaller over here " . Guess what, still holding on to a pile of shit. Honestly, no on thinks MvC2 is crap simply because no one, thinks, about it. The only time I ever think of this game is when some scrub asks me to challenge him after I've wipped him on everything else.

DaDesiCanadian
07-02-2005, 07:58 PM
I like Angelina Jolie.

Does anyone else like Angelina Jolie??!

She has big lips!

PozerWolf
07-02-2005, 08:05 PM
I like Angelina Jolie.

Does anyone else like Angelina Jolie??!

She has big lips!

Hey wait a minute, your not a girl!

Blackestheart
07-02-2005, 08:08 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tekken is so boring, i'd rather watch paint dry.

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 08:16 PM
I like Angelina. I would probably date her, what about you guy? She is a MILF though.

Blackestheart
07-02-2005, 08:24 PM
I like Angelina. I would probably date her, what about you guy? She is a MILF though. You would probably date her? Dude are you serious? :confused:

eddymasta
07-02-2005, 08:33 PM
ok, we get the point, you guys hate tekken. You can shut the help up about it already

Master Chibi
07-02-2005, 08:40 PM
Man, if the entire lot of you hasn't figured it out yet, fighting games are pretty god damn stupid. Every fighting game ever made starts out just fine, but with time and discovery, we begin to pick the game apart, soaking it into two inevitable phases.

The first phase is continous discovery. Finding out what links into what, what beats out what, how many supers, developing a basic fundamental base for tiers, and so on and so forth.

The second phase is the inclusion of the first, but with bullshit. A grand amount of simplicity that cuts the game in half. It's not so much simplicity as it is effectiveness. This sets the tiers into place, and the game slowly dies from there on.

Which basically means you deal with the bullshit and build up on the basics, or don't ever play the god damn game you keep complaining about. After a certain point of skill in any fighting game you almost automatically tolerate the bullshit because you know ways around it / dealing with it, no matter how god awful it is; roll cancelling, MSP, unblockables, whatever.

Just face it, there will never be a game without bullshit, so sit back, tolerate the bad, and enjoy the good. Leave everyone else be with whatever it is they're playing.

I'm pretty much average (maybe a bit higher) in whatever I'm playing, but I love playing every god damn fighter I can get my hands on. Being able to go from MvC2 to Tekken 5 is a blast, and it's honestly your loss if just stick to one game.

Storming Flower
07-02-2005, 08:49 PM
t5 is good, even the great justin wong hasn't placed top 1-3 in a major, unlike all the cvs2,3s,st,mvc2, cuz it takes skill to play. you can't just whore something all day long and expect to be good. but i think wong played tekken 4 from the beginning back, he'd probably out cheese everyone with jin.

Higher-Jin
07-02-2005, 08:52 PM
I like Angelina Jolie.

Does anyone else like Angelina Jolie??!

She has dick sucking lips!

It's just something that had to be said

t5 is good, even the great justin wong hasn't placed top 1-3 in a major, unlike all the cvs2,3s,st,mvc2, cuz it takes skill to play. you can't just whore something all day long and expect to be good. but i think wong played tekken 4 from the beginning back, he'd probably out cheese everyone with jin.

I'll neg you later =)

CDL
07-02-2005, 08:53 PM
Wow, this shit hit 5 pages in one day? Impressive. But, you did kind of butcher the english language with your post. Also, we know you are sick of people posting about this game or that game being crap, but at the same time, people are probably sick of people setting aside an entire post just to say, "Stop saying xyz game is crap."

I thought that was the entire point of a forum, to discuss what you like or dislike. So, if you are sick of people posting about MVC2 being crap, stop reading their posts.


And hey, just for the record, DOA2 doesn't have a "top tier."

(And now I will wait for the DOA flamers to come after me...)

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 08:54 PM
You would probably date her? Dude are you serious? :confused:

Well I would fuck her for sure. Dating though, what is she's a headcase? Plus she has a kid already.

Who would you like to Date? There is this girl named Naomi I've had a hard on for 2 years now. Too bad she's like a hardcore christian.

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 08:59 PM
Stuff

Super Turbo is the measuring stick for all fighting games. Nothing is perfect, we all knew that. However is is the closest thing we have. So we compare. We've thought about it, I see your point. It is a flawed one.

But back the issue? Would you date Jolene Chibby?

Master Chibi
07-02-2005, 09:08 PM
We're fucking human, everything we do is flawed.

So what.

;p

jae hoon
07-02-2005, 09:14 PM
Super Turbo is the measuring stick for all fighting games. Nothing is perfect, we all knew that. However is is the closest thing we have. So we compare. We've thought about it, I see your point. It is a flawed one.

But back the issue? Would you date Jolene Chibby?


Somehow I dont see ST as the measuring stick, its as bad if not worse then alot of games out now.

Superking
07-02-2005, 09:16 PM
In the end, it's all about Doomsday Warrior. :tup:

Shamir
07-02-2005, 09:36 PM
ha...vegita x knows what he's talking about...

KOF, GGXX and MVC2 best fighting games... all the others suck dick!

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 10:14 PM
We're fucking human, everything we do is flawed.

So what.

;p

Stop ignoring the issure damn it, what celebrity do you want to date?

Master Chibi
07-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Milla Jovovich.

Multipass in the ass.

~<3

RagingStorm101
07-02-2005, 10:23 PM
ok this thread is for the use of expressing my opinion so you do not have to repliy if u don't want to.

Let me start with I'm just tired of reading up on everyone talking about mvc2 like its carbage or something.
First of all to everyone that like mvc2 and hate the game. this is a team base game so which mean certain assist characters will me mashed on. if you have a problem with that go and play 3s or tekken 5 please.

Second. Every game has its top teir from tekken to street fighter. Tekken 4 and 5 is by far the worst games ever. I mean one lunch and you lose have your life and depending on if your on the wall or not 50% to 70% damaged after one hit, man whatever. Tekken tag was good but thats the past, So to all and I do mean all you people that say tekken 5 is greater than MVC2 just put the crack pipe down. Now that mainly go's out to people hating on mvc2 and actually try to explain why mvc2 is garbage and tekken 5 is great. I love tekken, been playing it since tekken 2 but when 4 came out man I just lost all respect for tekken. Huuuuuuuu Tekken Tag R.I.P

And last about 3s ,cvs2,ggxx. Now if u want a game a requires skills then I agree play 3s. But don't expect to have fun playing it. 3s=skill..but not fun.
Cvs2... love the game when it came out but come on lets not TALK ABOUT A GAME BEING BROKEN THE ONLY GAME I KNOW WHERE EVERYONE ENTIRE GAME PLAY IS BUILT AROUND ROLL CANCELLING, BUT I GUESS AFTER 3 YEARS OF IT EVERYONE THINKS ITS NORMAL. It had mad potential. CVS2=SOMEWHAT SKILLS...BUT A LITTLE FUN
GGXX...this game and mvc2 or about the same both or very fun to play. both do take skills to play. In neither game can someone come on and just press anything and win unlike tekken 4 and 5.
Even though both games has it bullshit about it both game are very fun to play....and isn't thats whats its all about.

so lets recap:
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s or CVS2.

You want to play a game that requires little or no skills but where by anyone can win if you just hit that person in the air. play TEKKEN 4 or 5.

If u want to play a game that requires skill but not the type of skills that 3s required. a game that at time is random but never the less is still fun. A game where someone who just started playing the game after 1 week will never win against someone who been playing for years(i.e Tekken 4 and 5) well play MVC2 or GGxx both or equal IMO.

What you posted is half true; the other half is just biased as fuck. CVS2 is NOT all roll canceling. That's like me saying "Damn yo MVC2 is just Rom infinite and Cable's AHVB shit all day". All these games appeal to certain people so you can't judge them like that. Just know that they're all good for some reason and for some people.

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 10:35 PM
Milla Jovovich.

Multipass in the ass.

~<3

One of the best movies ever. She is quite stunning in that movie. Leloo is probably of the most lovable woman to ever be on cellulite.

TempestFox
07-02-2005, 10:38 PM
One of the best movies ever. She is quite stunning in that movie. Leloo is probably of the most lovable woman to ever be on cellulite.

Oh, I do hope that's a typo. :rofl:

CDL
07-02-2005, 10:43 PM
what is she's a headcase?

I think this forum has the most english language abusers on the net (or maybe you are just retarded, I don't know).

But, to answer your question, there is no "if."

I mean, think about it. Even a guy named Billy Bob can't be that fucking stupid. And Pitt? He's just doing what every other celebrity in Hollywood does. Sampling the menu.

By the time Mr. and Mrs. Smith hits HBO, we will be talking about the upcoming wedding of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Lopez.

S.Snk3
07-02-2005, 10:53 PM
fuck the haters long life to marvel :karate: :encore:

ShinAkumax
07-02-2005, 10:56 PM
I make it my personal agenda to rape the english language.

saroorhai
07-02-2005, 10:59 PM
With things going the way they are with fighing games and the recent interest in celebrity lifestyles encroaching on the once pure fields of gaming, I think it's time to realize my calling as a paparazzi. I am also juggling the possibility of becoming a feild reporter (a.k.a. UFO junkie message board troll) for the Weekly World News.

Now, who wants to start the "Is Marvel a stupid, dead game, with tons of people participating in tounraments, for fat Mc Donald's employees?" thread #578?

bbq sauce
07-02-2005, 11:28 PM
What you posted is half true; the other half is just biased as fuck. CVS2 is NOT all roll canceling. That's like me saying "Damn yo MVC2 is just Rom infinite and Cable's AHVB shit all day". All these games appeal to certain people so you can't judge them like that. Just know that they're all good for some reason and for some people.
You can't really compare RC'ing to ROMs and AHVBs, because they're specific to 1 character, any character can RC with 3 of the 6 grooves in the game..

Not that it's ALL RC'ing but if you can't RC, then you can't use those grooves to their full potential.

Spirit Juice
07-02-2005, 11:50 PM
How can Angelina be a MILF? Isn't her kid adopted?

Goukisan
07-02-2005, 11:58 PM
Oh boy oh boy, lemme put a good few in. First off, I warn any with sensitive eyes, I will use the word "fuck" in almost every description I give in this post.

Now, to be honest, let's look at most of the items present in fighting games today.

ST: Sagat fireball fucking or the game of "omggieftick360omgwtfbbq!"

3S: Ken/Chun/Yun more times than not > the rest of the known goddamn world

GGXX: Dust loop off of damn near every situation/Eddie (hey, uber elite fucky ass unblockable keepaway! Ha Ha! Bang!)

T5: Oh god, I blocked Marduk's d+4! Time for 70% or even better, a Steve infinite (FUCK).

MVC2: OH MY GOD I AM HAVING SO FUCKING MUCH (C/M/S) FUN! LET ME MASH CAPTIN' COMMANDO AS AN ASSIST! WHEEEEE!

KOF 98: Way to go Chris. Air CD the fuck away!

KOF 2k2: Angel gets cancellable mixup. Let's think about that one.....cancellable mixup.

...And a bunch of other crap like Roy of Rival Schools or anyone in EC.

Now here's the killer. I play almost all of these fighters and have fun with them. Sure, I know the faults, I know the ugly side of tiering and glitchs and what not. But shit, I like playing them. To be honest, I rarely play GG and MVC2 unless others bring it up. But I would still play someone if they popped it in and called a match. So, let us quit with the internet dick waving contest and close the thread.

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 12:03 AM
How can Angelina be a MILF? Isn't her kid adopted?

Hmmm good point. I probably just wanted to think of her as a MILF. I had anal sex with a girl not too long ago, anyone else here tried anal before?

Ps: CD Chris in not dominant in 98, at all.

EndLeSS8
07-03-2005, 12:35 AM
Frozen fried chicken is actually a lot better than expected.

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 12:37 AM
Details?

DaDesiCanadian
07-03-2005, 01:33 AM
Hmm, good point.. if she adopted a kid, is she still a MILF? But she's "ILF" all right, hohoho.
And Jovovich was deadly in 5th Element,yes. Unfortunately, in RE Apocalypse, her nipples were also deadly.. so pointy, they could kill a man. Totally killed her sexiness. :tdown:

I also would like details on the chicken.

Ry Guy
07-03-2005, 01:39 AM
KOF 98: Way to go Chris. Air CD the fuck away!

His CD is pretty good, but it's not godly or anything, O_o. Hopefully you don't lose out to CD whoring Chris players.

Frozen fried chicken is actually a lot better than expected.

I don't know about completely frozen chicken, but it ain't half bad cold, :tup:.

ShinjiGohan
07-03-2005, 02:27 AM
Percentage is irrelevant. You get to play 15 (in fact, much more)team combinations in MvC2, more than the number of playable characters in any other game. By your reasoning adding 134 new, fun, and original characters to Tekken 5, none of them top tier, would make the game way worse, because the percentage of top tiers would change.

It isn't irrelevant. He choose to say that you have got to whore 15% of the cast in 3s to be a "good" player (which is a fairly balanced game anyway). And fact is, you have the BIG 4 in MvC2 and several assists that you use to compilement them. So basicly you're left with over 99% of the possible teams in MvC2 being absolutely shitty and have to rely on 15 or so teams if you want to win. I'm sorry but 15 (or 30 for you're liking) out of 166,230 teams is still a horrible percentage. Far worse than any other fighting game out there.
Or what, are you saying that MSP and MSS equates to Ken and Yun? Sorry but minute differences in those teams, make that comparison horrible.

cygnus
07-03-2005, 03:01 AM
Or what, are you saying that MSP and MSS equates to Ken and Yun? Sorry but minute differences in those teams, make that comparison horrible.
The difference between Psylocke and Sentinel is a bit more than minute. :party:

**Skimitar**
07-03-2005, 03:08 AM
MVC2 Sucks Really bad :sad: you know why?







cuz i said so :clap:



All other games > MvC2


:encore: :encore:

polarity
07-03-2005, 03:15 AM
So basically you're pissed at everyone saying your game sucks, but it's okay for you to say that about everyone else's?

Why don't all you people bashing other games just get over the fact that it's okay for people to like different things :rolleyes:. I'm not huge fan of Tekken 5, GGXX and especially SSBM, but I recognize that they're good games and that other people enjoy playing them, so who am I to judge? It's not like any of this shit really matters, they're fucking video games.

ShinjiGohan
07-03-2005, 03:22 AM
The difference between Psylocke and Sentinel is a bit more than minute. :party:

With several of the same characters on both teams, you have 1/3rd of the team thats somewhat different. Compared with a team of say Jugernaut, Spiderman and Tron. The differences of MSP and MSS are minute.

Wow, that really makes my comparison invalid. Oh wait it doesn't. :rolleyes:

bill_rizer
07-03-2005, 05:21 AM
Im not sure whats worse people bitching about a game or people bitching about people bitching on a game.
you realize how lame that sounds.
God dam it people just play games you enjoy :karate:

Asian Mike
07-03-2005, 07:08 AM
the main people that get they ass handed to them and also suck at marvel are always the one bitching about and want it to die

simply if you dont play marvel,then why hate on it, :confused: ,yea like i said got your feelings hurt on that marvel. so whos problem is that. :confused: not mine ima always play

edit: vegeta-x close this thread man :tup: dont that to explain yourself to ignorance becuase if people dont have nothin else to do then hate a game that have know skill it then yea,there feelings hurt,


how the scene in the arcades be looking

1.tekken machine 4 or 5 people crowded around it.
2.guilty gear machine decent group
3.marvel machine 15 to 30 people depends on how many plays in your arcade.plus more people that just come to watch people play.

ok now i understand why people hate on marvel,has the other 3 at there machine glace over,and saying to theseleves you do marvel players think they are

RagingStorm101
07-03-2005, 07:18 AM
You can't really compare RC'ing to ROMs and AHVBs, because they're specific to 1 character, any character can RC with 3 of the 6 grooves in the game..

Not that it's ALL RC'ing but if you can't RC, then you can't use those grooves to their full potential.

So use K Groove like me = ). I can't RC consistently but I still use C A N. It's only gay when you have to play people that can do it all the time and know how to play really well.

Golba loves
07-03-2005, 08:42 AM
It isn't irrelevant. He choose to say that you have got to whore 15% of the cast in 3s to be a "good" player (which is a fairly balanced game anyway). And fact is, you have the BIG 4 in MvC2 and several assists that you use to compilement them. So basicly you're left with over 99% of the possible teams in MvC2 being absolutely shitty and have to rely on 15 or so teams if you want to win. I'm sorry but 15 (or 30 for you're liking) out of 166,230 teams is still a horrible percentage. Far worse than any other fighting game out there.
Or what, are you saying that MSP and MSS equates to Ken and Yun? Sorry but minute differences in those teams, make that comparison horrible.
15 or 30 playable teams is much mroe then anyother game. Besides its more than that.

caliagent#3
07-03-2005, 08:49 AM
You can't really compare RC'ing to ROMs and AHVBs, because they're specific to 1 character, any character can RC with 3 of the 6 grooves in the game..

Not that it's ALL RC'ing but if you can't RC, then you can't use those grooves to their full potential.


Not really. For some people it's just better that they don't RC. I think learning how to use your character efficiently is a lot more important.

Spirit Juice
07-03-2005, 10:58 AM
GGXX: Dust loop off of damn near every situation/Eddie (hey, uber elite fucky ass unblockable keepaway! Ha Ha! Bang!)


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks for making my day, scrub. Yeah, Sol is top tier! He just owns everyone! :rolleyes: If Sol is SO good, care to explain why he's only mid-tier? Or how about the fact that the top tiers, and even some characters lower tiered than him, give him trouble?

Please think about what you're going to say before you say it.

Fried chicken is awesome... but the extra crispy version at KFC knocks my socks off for fuckin' FREE. ^_^

Veib
07-03-2005, 12:24 PM
the main people that get they ass handed to them and also suck at marvel are always the one bitching about and want it to die

No dude, I totally think that it's the people who get their ass handed and suck at T5/GGXX/3S/insert random game here are always the ones bitching about it and want it to die.

Can anyone name these 30 different Marvel teams that you can actually win with nowadays?

owned54321
07-03-2005, 12:36 PM
No dude, I totally think that it's the people who get their ass handed and suck at T5/GGXX/3S/insert random game here are always the ones bitching about it and want it to die.

Can anyone name these 30 different Marvel teams that you can actually win with nowadays?

yeap i fully agree alot of people was saying that earlier that when people get there ass handed to them then they want it to die,thats all that is but hey thats not my problem,they making thereseleves look like total scubs anyway

Spirit Juice
07-03-2005, 12:46 PM
Can anyone name these 30 different Marvel teams that you can actually win with nowadays?

Psylocke, Sentinel, Cable, CC, Storm, Magneto, and their palette swaps. Bam! 30 different teams and then some!

Remix1213
07-03-2005, 02:04 PM
Psylocke, Sentinel, Cable, CC, Storm, Magneto, and their palette swaps. Bam! 30 different teams and then some!

You forgot cyclops,rouge,tron,doom,strider,blackheart,cammy,I M,WM and Megaman i'll even go as far to say chun-li. lets say someone picks cable/sent/XX there are still 15 other characters to fill that last slot, now mix the teams up. You ppl are gonna say there is only 15-30 teams? I like 3rd strike and its fun when u first start but after awhile it isnt as exciting.

DaDesiCanadian
07-03-2005, 02:07 PM
You forgot cyclops,rouge,tron,doom,strider,blackheart,cammy,I M,WM and Megaman i'll even go as far to say chun-li. lets say someone picks cable/sent/XX there are still 15 other characters to fill that last slot, now mix the teams up. You ppl are gonna say there is only 15-30 teams? I like 3rd strike and its fun when u first start but after awhile it isnt as exciting.

Rogue, strider, wm, megaman, chun.....:rofl:

When was the last time someone with any one of those in their teams won a decent tournament..

EndLeSS8
07-03-2005, 02:10 PM
Sorry for the late reply.

I'm getting these ghetto ass frozen fried chicken TV dinners from Albertsons. I've tried Swansons, and Banquet.

Swansons gives you 2 really random pieces (like, i got like a back and drummette once, and like part of the breast, and some bony ass part another time) some corn, some mashed potato, and a brownie. The chicken really is on the back burner, it's good, but not great.
Chicken: 6/10 Overall 6/10

Banquet is very good. The older boxes give you 2 random ass pieces, but at least they're good pieces, like a complete wing/half-breast/drumstick/drummette combo. It's very good. The new packaged stuff, it's advertised on the front box "New large and meaty thigh!" is what it is: a pretty good sized thigh. Both types are good, and both have a lot of meat. The batter is good too. It comes with mashed potatos and corn. The corn is better with Swansons, but the mashed potatos better with Banquet, imo
Chicken: 7.5/10 Overall: 7/10

Both availiable at your neighborhood supermarket.

Blackestheart
07-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Rogue, strider, wm, megaman, chun.....:rofl:

When was the last time someone with any one of those in their teams won a decent tournament.. I would'nt laugh too hard about Strider, check out Kai Sings Strider on the recent ECC vids, he seriously beasts on top 4 tiers.

jasegfstyle
07-03-2005, 02:56 PM
ummm that makes sence for people that get there ass rape on marvel are going to hate on it,whether they admit or not so no reason tryin to argue with them,


i hope they (the marvel haters) realize that the people that plays marvel hardcore are not going to banwagon to somethin becuase of 3 of 4 people on shoryuken.com,i that case that person that banwagons aint a real gamer anyway :tup:

DUMP THIS FUCKING THREAD PLEASE!!!!!!

EDIT: also you are not a real gamer if you try to put another game you are not good down and saying the game is this and that.
RESPECT THE GAME, LIKE EA WOULD SAY IT "it's in the game",

and sorry if i put 3s and tekken down because when you think about it you got to repect that when you handed somrthing good,dont fuckit up,its all in fun :lame:

Spirit Juice
07-03-2005, 03:00 PM
You forgot cyclops,rouge,tron,doom,strider,blackheart,cammy,I M,WM and Megaman i'll even go as far to say chun-li. lets say someone picks cable/sent/XX there are still 15 other characters to fill that last slot, now mix the teams up. You ppl are gonna say there is only 15-30 teams? I like 3rd strike and its fun when u first start but after awhile it isnt as exciting.

Does SRK need a big ass, bright red emot icon that says "JOKE" flashing in bright colors?

Aside from the characters I listed, Strider/Doom seem to be the only other characters that can compete decently. Tron is sort of in the same position as CC: her assist is good. Same thing with Cyclopse. As characters by themselves they're not very good... from what I can see in videos. I'm not MvC2 expert and I don't play the game, but it's pretty much what I see in practically every MvC2 vid in existence.

...so what exactly are we debating about here? Other games suck? MvC2 takes the most skill? Which game is the most fun here? Which came first: the chicken or the egg?

I really no longer see what the issue is here. MvC2 is probably the most broken game currently played right now, no one can really deny it, but that doesn't make it any less fun. People have their own tastes and preferences and that's that. If people want to play broken ass MvC2 then more power to them.

I suppose it could be worse for Marvel though. You could have three Tekken 4 Jins on your team. :karate:

jasegfstyle
07-03-2005, 03:08 PM
People have their own tastes and preferences and that's that. :karate:

umm sounds about right! :tup:

nanitaberu
07-03-2005, 05:11 PM
Does SRK need a big ass, bright red emot icon that says "JOKE" flashing in bright colors?

no, SRK needs an icon that says "You need some sex."

PozerWolf
07-03-2005, 05:14 PM
Concentration rhymes with Masterbaition.

JohnnyEight
07-03-2005, 06:45 PM
It isn't irrelevant. He choose to say that you have got to whore 15% of the cast in 3s to be a "good" player (which is a fairly balanced game anyway). And fact is, you have the BIG 4 in MvC2 and several assists that you use to compilement them. So basicly you're left with over 99% of the possible teams in MvC2 being absolutely shitty and have to rely on 15 or so teams if you want to win. I'm sorry but 15 (or 30 for you're liking) out of 166,230 teams is still a horrible percentage. Far worse than any other fighting game out there.
Or what, are you saying that MSP and MSS equates to Ken and Yun? Sorry but minute differences in those teams, make that comparison horrible.


So the best fighting game ever is Street Fighter 1, where both characters (100% of the cast) are equally good. Now 3rd Strike totally sucks ass compared to Street Fighter 1, because it takes out the balance that only a Ryu vs Ken fight (at the time they were equal BTW) could provide. That is your reasoning. If you don't see the flaw, I can't help you.

Just for the record, I prefer having Mag, Storm and Sent than just a very limited version of Ryu to play.

Super Warrior
07-03-2005, 06:53 PM
ok this thread is for the use of expressing my opinion so you do not have to repliy if u don't want to.

Let me start with I'm just tired of reading up on everyone talking about mvc2 like its carbage or something.
First of all to everyone that like mvc2 and hate the game. this is a team base game so which mean certain assist characters will me mashed on. if you have a problem with that go and play 3s or tekken 5 please.

Second. Every game has its top teir from tekken to street fighter. Tekken 4 and 5 is by far the worst games ever. I mean one lunch and you lose have your life and depending on if your on the wall or not 50% to 70% damaged after one hit, man whatever. Tekken tag was good but thats the past, So to all and I do mean all you people that say tekken 5 is greater than MVC2 just put the crack pipe down. Now that mainly go's out to people hating on mvc2 and actually try to explain why mvc2 is garbage and tekken 5 is great. I love tekken, been playing it since tekken 2 but when 4 came out man I just lost all respect for tekken. Huuuuuuuu Tekken Tag R.I.P

And last about 3s ,cvs2,ggxx. Now if u want a game a requires skills then I agree play 3s. But don't expect to have fun playing it. 3s=skill..but not fun.
Cvs2... love the game when it came out but come on lets not TALK ABOUT A GAME BEING BROKEN THE ONLY GAME I KNOW WHERE EVERYONE ENTIRE GAME PLAY IS BUILT AROUND ROLL CANCELLING, BUT I GUESS AFTER 3 YEARS OF IT EVERYONE THINKS ITS NORMAL. It had mad potential. CVS2=SOMEWHAT SKILLS...BUT A LITTLE FUN
GGXX...this game and mvc2 or about the same both or very fun to play. both do take skills to play. In neither game can someone come on and just press anything and win unlike tekken 4 and 5.
Even though both games has it bullshit about it both game are very fun to play....and isn't thats whats its all about.

so lets recap:
You want to play a game the requires skills and no fun play 3s or CVS2.

You want to play a game that requires little or no skills but where by anyone can win if you just hit that person in the air. play TEKKEN 4 or 5.

If u want to play a game that requires skill but not the type of skills that 3s required. a game that at time is random but never the less is still fun. A game where someone who just started playing the game after 1 week will never win against someone who been playing for years(i.e Tekken 4 and 5) well play MVC2 or GGxx both or equal IMO.

Marvel Vs Capcom 2 is a 2D masterpeice IMO. I find it hard to beleive that many here would dislike it...

m00b
07-03-2005, 07:05 PM
Sorry for the late reply.

I'm getting these ghetto ass frozen fried chicken TV dinners from Albertsons. I've tried Swansons, and Banquet.

Swansons gives you 2 really random pieces (like, i got like a back and drummette once, and like part of the breast, and some bony ass part another time) some corn, some mashed potato, and a brownie. The chicken really is on the back burner, it's good, but not great.
Chicken: 6/10 Overall 6/10

Banquet is very good. The older boxes give you 2 random ass pieces, but at least they're good pieces, like a complete wing/half-breast/drumstick/drummette combo. It's very good. The new packaged stuff, it's advertised on the front box "New large and meaty thigh!" is what it is: a pretty good sized thigh. Both types are good, and both have a lot of meat. The batter is good too. It comes with mashed potatos and corn. The corn is better with Swansons, but the mashed potatos better with Banquet, imo
Chicken: 7.5/10 Overall: 7/10

Both availiable at your neighborhood supermarket.

I swear to god those brownies have crack in them or something. I made one of those before just so I could eat the brownie.


What in 3s takes out the balance "only a Ryu vs Ken fight" could provide? It's a completely different game than SF1/2

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 07:19 PM
So how good is start ocean 3 anyways? It's on wallmart for like 30 bucks, should I pick it up?

TempestFox
07-03-2005, 07:44 PM
Star Oceans are usually good. I'd say yes.

PozerWolf
07-03-2005, 07:46 PM
I thought SO3 was good.
Kind of dull at first but it gets good.

JohnnyEight
07-03-2005, 07:52 PM
I swear to god those brownies have crack in them or something. I made one of those before just so I could eat the brownie.


What in 3s takes out the balance "only a Ryu vs Ken fight" could provide? It's a completely different game than SF1/2

Ryu vs Ken (which is the same as Ryu vs Ryu in Street Fighter 1) is perfectly balanced (50/50). Once you add any new character that has not the exact same chances of winning, the game becomes less balanced, which some people here call worse.

Necro or Twelve don't have the same chances as Ken, Chun Li, Yun or Akuma. By the "balance" reasoning, Capcom should take out the worst (or the best) characters and you'd have a better game.

If balance is so amazing, why play fighting games at all when we can play Rock Paper Scissors (more balanced than fighting games and even chess, where white has the advantage).

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 08:39 PM
Hey Tempest, can you post that "souls" link again?

TempestFox
07-03-2005, 08:41 PM
I will %$#@ your mother.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/216320


And another one from the same guy.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/239292

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 08:45 PM
I will %$#@ your mother.


Out of all the pearl necklaces I've given SRK, you choose the spelling error? Freak. :tup:

PS: Same link with less spam http://just2pale.com/#

(THE) Geese
07-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Hungry-Man is the best TV dinner. As the packaging claims, "Over 1 LB of food!". The Pork/Chicken BBQ variety also contains a delectable brownie. Remember to remove the plastic.

TempestFox
07-03-2005, 08:47 PM
Out of all the pearl necklaces I've given SRK, you choose the spelling error? Freak. :tup:

Well, it's censored in the animation. *shrug*

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 08:49 PM
Well, it's censored in the animation. *shrug*

I'm talking about your quote.

TempestFox
07-03-2005, 08:55 PM
Oh, that. Heh, yeah. I found it amusing at the time. I'm sure I'll find something better eventually.

ShinAkumax
07-03-2005, 09:10 PM
You know who was hot? Misses Huxtable http://www.detnews.com/pix/2005/03/26/features/fe26-rahadxout-0305n.jpg
When I think perfect wife, I think Misses Huxstable.

What TV mom do you guys like?

m00b
07-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Ryu vs Ken (which is the same as Ryu vs Ryu in Street Fighter 1) is perfectly balanced (50/50). Once you add any new character that has not the exact same chances of winning, the game becomes less balanced, which some people here call worse.

Necro or Twelve don't have the same chances as Ken, Chun Li, Yun or Akuma. By the "balance" reasoning, Capcom should take out the worst (or the best) characters and you'd have a better game.

If balance is so amazing, why play fighting games at all when we can play Rock Paper Scissors (more balanced than fighting games and even chess, where white has the advantage).

And how is that a problem with 3S? It's a problem every fighting game has, unless it's SF1. Same character with different sprites = :lame: Let's just have an all shoto game where everyone has the exact same moves! SO COOL!

Remix1213
07-03-2005, 10:19 PM
Rogue, strider, wm, megaman, chun.....:rofl:

When was the last time someone with any one of those in their teams won a decent tournament..

first off smart ass do you even play marvel? if u do i assume u have heard of julius jackson who plays IM/WM/Doom and can compete quite high. so much u know huh? you dont think megaman is good? i'll back 50 on megaman steve against you, we will see how shitty a megaman team is.....strider doesnt need to be explained as it is pretty obvious when he is paired up wit doom. Rouge is prolly the best low tier in the game she is the magnus of low tier which vegita-x uses quite well wit his rouge/storm/tron team last but not least chun-li she has a sick rushdown when u learn to use her plus here anti air assist is pretty good as bryheem shows us in the ecc vids. i didnt even mention guile or charlie which puts a leash on sent as far as flying goes, btw josh wong uses on occasion cable/sent/guile. just something u should think about before saying something idiotic. :tup: you dont think justin can use a low-tier character in his team and win?? :lame: i seen him take out team srcub wit thanos,ken,xx it waz another low tier but i forgot.

KinanO
07-03-2005, 10:25 PM
im not goin to show ignorance like the 3 and 4 people on here that doesnt like marvel because that would make me like people that hate each game they suck in so how can i say this umm, i guess nothin,marvel is just too good of a game for me,no banwagon here! :tup:

TempestFox
07-03-2005, 10:28 PM
I like pie.

KinanO
07-03-2005, 10:30 PM
I like pie.

i like gum thread ends here! :clap:

Hoonyo
07-04-2005, 12:24 AM
hey i really like tekken 5

3s/cvs2 can go to hell

mvc2/ggxx still have love for both

PozerWolf
07-04-2005, 10:22 AM
Does anyone here wanna do something that isn't sexually related? I'm sick of being touched :sad:

DaDesiCanadian
07-04-2005, 10:59 AM
BLAH BLAH I'M A MORON


First off smart ass, I said has anyone "WON".. WON.. a decent tournament. I realize you can't read, and judging from that mini essay you just wrote, write on a basic grade school level either. So i'm just going to ignore your stupid posts now.

ShinAkuma: I like Eva Longoria, though that doesn't REALLY count. She's a housewife though! Close enough.

And no, the best TV dinner is Michelinas.

Pozerwolf: Seek counselling, kthx.

The Chef
07-04-2005, 11:09 AM
I understand your frustration about ppl just dissing games outright with no reasoning.
It's just become cool to diss certain games lol. Mainly Tekken 4 and CVS2. But MVC2, 3s and _even_ ST aren't safe from hate from certain ppl lol

But dude, you're doing the same thing with Tekken 5.. it may look like a mashers game at first (then again doesn't MVC also?), but if it were true that anyone could win, the tournies would reflect that.

It's not about doing a Magneto and becoming the very kind of person you hate ^^


As for finding a game BORING.. well that is purely down to personal preference, although of course being good at and understanding the game helps.
I am astonished that ppl find games like Tekken and ST boring when the DAMAGE is so high!
A huge number of people find 3s boring.. all they see is parry parry parry, and more parries, and turtling.
CVS2 of course is known as a slow turtle game/roll cancel fest or whatever.
VF of course is found boring by most ppl too, despite being hailed as the deepest and most technical/skillful fighting game ever.

I was on the CVS2-hate bandwagon for quite a while. And of course I used to diss 3s cause it was the cool thing to do. But then I realised if I REALLY hated those games I wouldn't play them! (I know plenty of people who still whine about certain games just before popping in another coin to play them lol)

Rehan (Dead Man Inc.)

TempestFox
07-04-2005, 11:12 AM
Psst. Stop posting. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/XxTempestxX/Random%20Crap/threadsucks.jpg)

Remix1213
07-04-2005, 11:34 AM
First off smart ass, I said has anyone "WON".. WON.. a decent tournament. I realize you can't read, and judging from that mini essay you just wrote, write on a basic grade school level either. So i'm just going to ignore your stupid posts now.

The whole point asshole waz that ppl are saying the game is limited to 15 or so teams not winning. So i put in more characters that can be used and paired up wit certain character can get quite far. Once again i'll ask u, u dont think Justin can win a tourney wit a low-tier on his team? I can read just fine thanks its just i ignore retarded posts when u prolly dont even play the game and if u do are limited to the top 4. That waz a mini essay? Its a paragraph at best.... Basic school grade level? i waznt aware i had to type advanced words just to get a point across. But i guess u have to insult me to get attention away from the fact u dont know shit. Of course ur gonna ignore my posts u already know ur wrong. But since ur gonna reply to this anyway (Like I know u will) i'll end it here for me.

**Skimitar**
07-04-2005, 12:53 PM
i think he couldn't win a whole tourny just using nothing but low tiers :rolleyes:

and remember that other top player would be playing with there original teams.



I dont' think he could do it.

KillerKai
07-04-2005, 01:18 PM
First off smart ass, I said has anyone "WON".. WON.. a decent tournament.
I did qualify in my pool at ECC with strider, which is kind of a 16 man tournament with decent players in it. Does that count? :tup: :encore: :clap:

Blackestheart
07-04-2005, 03:28 PM
I did qualify in my pool at ECC with strider, which is kind of a 16 man tournament with decent players in it. Does that count? :tup: :encore: :clap: It certainly does.

fishjie
07-04-2005, 08:04 PM
3s - ryu chun yun

these 3 are top tier and are unbeatable kthx

anyway ppl who like cvs2 and 3s are usually japanese cockriders - omglol if japan doesnt like it it must suck becuz japan is so cool omglolzzzzzzz!!111

therefore their opinion is forefeit

besides, who wants to play a turtle fest or a rock paper scissor game anyway? yaaaaaaaaaaawn

ps marvel sucks as well but at least its fun

peace haters

jasegfstyle
07-04-2005, 08:12 PM
people have there own taste so oh well

but bitching about what games has infinites and whos cheap in it,just proofs how much of a scrub that person is to everyone

so if you not good at marvel and its to cheap for you,go to the intro screen listen at that last part when the annoucer says "new age of heros" so if you cant deal with the lastest ages of heros in this marvel series,go to xmen vs streetfighter or whatever,then blam everyone is happy

THE END :party:

JohnnyEight
07-04-2005, 09:36 PM
And how is that a problem with 3S? It's a problem every fighting game has, unless it's SF1. Same character with different sprites = :lame: Let's just have an all shoto game where everyone has the exact same moves! SO COOL!

Read my post again. I am explaining how stupid it is to take percentage into account (hence the dumb exemples I posted), and not how great that is. You're backing me up here.

As I said before, I'd`rather play MSS than Ryu vs Ryu at SF1 anyday.

ShinjiGohan
07-04-2005, 10:12 PM
people have there own taste so oh well

but bitching about what games has infinites and whos cheap in it,just proofs how much of a scrub that person is to everyone

so if you not good at marvel and its to cheap for you,go to the intro screen listen at that last part when the annoucer says "new age of heros" so if you cant deal with the lastest ages of heros in this marvel series,go to xmen vs streetfighter or whatever,then blam everyone is happy

THE END :party:

Had the original poster kept that in mind then this topic would never have been created (if only he kepted that in mind sigh).

ShinAkumax
07-04-2005, 10:12 PM
I spit on the face, of people who do not think Super Turbo is the standar. I know cool, and you are not cool.

TS
07-05-2005, 01:31 AM
1. Did nobody read the FIRST fucking SENTENCE of this fucking thread? "d00d, that's just YOUR opinion, and blah blah," what the fuck, he said that like 2 words into the motherfucking post.

And about # of good characters...um, every single 3S tournament is won by about one of 4 characters, maybe five. All of them. Every once in a while there's an upset in Japan, because they play single-elim/team stuff. If you're going to say only 4 characters matter in MvC2, you'd sure as shit have to make that claim for every other fighting game, and you could probably, really, distil it down to less than 4 characters in some.

ST would yield better results than most games, but it's not perfect, either. Sagat is stupid, but please, keep your eye on Balrog. Still, comebacks are much, much more frequent in ST than any of the newer games, and characters outside of the highest tier can compete, and do so quite often (partially because the game is so thick with counter-matches).

2. A3 for the win.

3. Mandy Moore.

ShinAkumax
07-05-2005, 01:37 AM
Mandy Moore...Sigh*
I was all over her character in a walk to remember.
I've never heard her singing or watched other movies with her.
I don't need to ruin the good time.

TS
07-05-2005, 02:12 AM
Yeah, you know...I've never actually heard one of her songs. But, she's very pretty.

AneurysmX
07-05-2005, 02:15 AM
3s - ryu chun yun

these 3 are top tier and are unbeatable kthx

anyway ppl who like cvs2 and 3s are usually japanese cockriders - omglol if japan doesnt like it it must suck becuz japan is so cool omglolzzzzzzz!!111

therefore their opinion is forefeit

besides, who wants to play a turtle fest or a rock paper scissor game anyway? yaaaaaaaaaaawn

ps marvel sucks as well but at least its fun

peace haters

Ya Ryu is top tier

Ya they are unbeatable just like ur 3s knowledge

Japan > your lack of rock paper scissor skills

OMGGGzz!!!!121111

Good job dumbass

X-Sapphire
07-05-2005, 02:25 AM
3s - ryu chun yun

these 3 are top tier and are unbeatable kthx

anyway ppl who like cvs2 and 3s are usually japanese cockriders - omglol if japan doesnt like it it must suck becuz japan is so cool omglolzzzzzzz!!111

therefore their opinion is forefeit

besides, who wants to play a turtle fest or a rock paper scissor game anyway? yaaaaaaaaaaawn

ps marvel sucks as well but at least its fun

peace haters

japan doesn't like you. you suck. gtfo.

DaDesiCanadian
07-05-2005, 09:03 AM
Yeah, you know...I've never actually heard one of her songs. But, she's very pretty.

Yeah, I just realized, i've never heard any of her songs either. But she IS very pretty.

What do you guys think of post-crisis Lohan?

Lantis
07-05-2005, 09:59 AM
Yeah, I just realized, i've never heard any of her songs either. But she IS very pretty.

What do you guys think of post-crisis Lohan?

I think she needs an urgent trip to KFC or shit like that. WTF is Bruce Willis doing to her, anyway :confused:

Oh well, time to shift back to Jessica Alba hotness....

ShinAkumax
07-05-2005, 10:09 AM
I haven't liked Jessica since iddle hands. She's hot and all but she just doesn't draw my attention.

Linday was super hot in mean girls and in that photoshot she did when she looked tan.

But does she beat Maxim spread Christina?
http://www.beerbox.de/img/girls/xtina/index.htm

vegita-x
07-05-2005, 12:39 PM
Rogue, strider, wm, megaman, chun.....:rofl:

When was the last time someone with any one of those in their teams won a decent tournament..

You know I was just about to close this thread when I came across your statement.
Well I have came at least second so far with my team in a major tourny and won a couple down here. But I'll let u be the judge...hummmmmmm how about some money matches for all the disbelieveres. Since this game is all about top teirs you should kill me in a money match :clap:

ruin-
07-05-2005, 03:59 PM
Veg makes a great fucking point. I love MvC2 even though I'm better at GGXX#R MvC2 is by far the funnest fighting game i have ever played alot of people put it down cause they suck at it and are just elitest. Thinking 3s is something so great :D 3s to me is very boring to play, watching it is fun but playing it bores me =(!!!

Ouroborus
07-05-2005, 04:19 PM
mvc2 is still the best game out there even tho i suck at it.

3s is garbage. i said it once and i'll say it again. 3s has the worst elements of mvc2 and cvs2 combined. the game is less balanced than mvc2 and more turtle friendly than cvs2.

AneurysmX
07-05-2005, 09:10 PM
^^ Obviously a troll

Lantis
07-05-2005, 10:58 PM
Well, slutty Xtina doesn't really do anything for me. She's overexposed.

Gimme some Monica Bellucci, and we'll be on speaking terms. :wink:

DaDesiCanadian
07-06-2005, 12:22 AM
For some reason, Aguileras always been ugly for me.

Monica Belluci however, in Revolutions (or was it reloaded) in that red dress. Jesus. Just..Jesus.

ramza
07-06-2005, 12:56 AM
Holy shit, THAT was Monica Belluci in the Matrix? The creepy European dude's wife/gf???

AneurysmX
07-06-2005, 04:06 AM
You should watch Malena

white shadow
07-06-2005, 06:25 AM
You should watch Malena

Monica Bellucci is the embodiment of sex.

DaDesiCanadian
07-06-2005, 03:11 PM
Holy shit, THAT was Monica Belluci in the Matrix? The creepy European dude's wife/gf???

Yeah, Persephone, the Merovingians wife.

I've heard of Malena, must watch that sometime. It's the french movie, right?

Onslaught2000
07-06-2005, 05:36 PM
SSBM owns every other fighting game ever!!! fuck that garbage that is MVC2,T5,CVS2,GGXX#R etc. etc.

SSBM=skillz and fun
everything else=gay as fuck!!!

sixtymhz
07-06-2005, 06:19 PM
Tekken 4 and 5 is by far the worst games ever. I mean one lunch and you lose have your life and depending on if your on the wall or not 50% to 70% damaged after one hit, man whatever.



And in MvC2 you can't do that?

Golba loves
07-06-2005, 06:45 PM
And in MvC2 you can't do that?
Sure but you have 3 chars in marvel.
Besides to do deadly combos like that in mvc2 takes skill, not one week of practice.

Silentness!
07-06-2005, 07:01 PM
MvC2 = fun
CvS2 = fun
3rd strike = fun
Reloaded = fun

playing 1 or all of the 4 with friends = priceless.

ShinjiGohan
07-06-2005, 08:06 PM
Sure but you have 3 chars in marvel.
Besides to do deadly combos like that in mvc2 takes skill, not one week of practice.


So it takes skill to do AHVB*4?

archetype
07-06-2005, 09:21 PM
So it takes skill to do AHVB*4?

It might not be that hard to execute but try doing it to someone who knows what they are doing. You're most likely going to have to get a guard break or combo it. Good luck landing it if your opponent doesn't make any mistakes and blocks everything.

ShinjiGohan
07-06-2005, 11:48 PM
That goes with any combo in any game.

ShinAkumax
07-06-2005, 11:54 PM
The other day I was at crosswalk waiting for the green. I saw this girl from the mall and she was holding some crappy health drink on her hand.

"what's that?"

" It's this blah blah blah healthdrink "

" So it's grass in a blender? Let me try. "

" sure "

Procedes to drink down the whole thing and to comically wipe his mouth afterwards.

" Ah refreshing, I feel healtier and in touch with mother earth. Oh look, I've drank your delicious bevarage dry. Let me take you out for drink to make up for it. "

" I got a boyfriend. "

" I'm not jealous. "

She walks away in confussion and I'm left with the bitter taste of defeat in my mouth...with a dirt and grass after taste.

To be reposted in my lose weight tread on a larger update.*

PozerWolf
07-07-2005, 12:19 AM
The other day I was at crosswalk waiting for the green. I saw this girl from the mall and she was holding some crappy health drink on her hand.

"what's that?"

" It's this blah blah blah healthdrink "

" So it's grass in a blender? Let me try. "

" sure "

Procedes to drink down the whole thing and to comically wipe his mouth afterwards.

" Ah refreshing, I feel healtier and in touch with mother earth. Oh look, I've drank your delicious bevarage dry. Let me take you out for drink to make up for it. "

" I got a boyfriend. "

" I'm not jealous. "

She walks away in confussion and I'm left with the bitter taste of defeat in my mouth...with a dirt and grass after taste.

To be reposted in my lose weight tread on a larger update.*

nude pics plz

Saotome Kaneda
07-07-2005, 12:24 AM
snip

pwnedddddd

ShinAkumax
07-07-2005, 12:41 AM
Your keen wit destroyed my soul. -_-

SaBrE
07-07-2005, 05:34 AM
someone tell me wtf is the point of this thread? ah nevermind, I'll just close it.


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