Super Smash Bros Melee For The Nintendo Revolution!?

[ABASI]

i was just reading up on revolution and read this small bit of info.

A: Believe it or not, there are already a number of top-tier titles in development for Nintendo's next-generation console. At E3 2005, the company revealed that a Revolution sequel to Super Smash Bros. Melee is being readied for the launch of the new system. Even better, the game will be Wi-Fi compatible, enabling players to fight it out against each other online. In addition, brand new Zelda and Mario titles are underway for the upcoming machine.

from: http://cube.ign.com/articles/522/522559p3.html

i just can't wait to see who is going to be in it is all i can say.

ABASI! :cool:

[canoshiz]

It was announced at the press conference, it's proabably going to be a launch title.

[white shadow]

Old to smash fans but still thanks for the info.:smile:

Hope they still have wavedeshing and l-cancelling!:sweat:

[canoshiz]

If they leave airdodging and traction in the game, then there will still be wavedashing. And as for L-Cancelling, it was there ever since SSB64 (Z-cancelling was even on the official website). I think it's safe to say that all those techniques will still be there.

On the other hand, they better not take out shinecancelling with Fox or Falco. :tdown:

[SynikaL]

I have a feeling the game is going to do a complete 180 from the 2d tradition of the series...




-Syn
(i hope not)

[white shadow]

I have a feeling the game is going to do a complete 180 from the 2d tradition of the series...




-Syn
(i hope not)


I don't think so. I think it might be 2.5D elements ala Kirby 64 but I don't think they'll divert from a system that has worked so long so well.

I just hope they have Wario.:razzy:

[Remy Saotome]

I just hope they have Wario.:razzy:co-sign
And Rick the Hamster and Pit.

[Wellman]

Here's hoping whatever the Revolution's new control system is doesn't dumb down the game in any shape or form.

Also lets useless clones like Dr. Mario and Young Link. Although I wouldn't mind seeing Fusion Samus.

[white shadow]

Dr.Mario isn't useless by any means.

[SynikaL]

Dr.Mario isn't useless by any means.


I agree with the other guy. Young Link and Doc need to go. IMO they are "useless" clones -- they're just way too similar to their original counterparts.




-Syn

[Vyral React]

then lets get rid of ken, and sakura too ^.^ *sarcasm*

[Remy Saotome]

I agree, too. I know that Dr. M is actually just a hair better than regular Mario, but he has almost the exact same moves. Practically identical, even more so than Ken and Ryu post SF2. And it isn't that I mind him being there, it's just that there are other characters that they left out and I'd much rather have. Like Wario. WTF were they thinking leaving Wario out?

I'd rather have some truly new characters than Dr. M, Pichu, and Young Link.

[canoshiz]

It's just because Syn plays Mario. =P

[white shadow]

It's just because Syn plays Mario. =P

Dr.Mario has kill moves so w/e. :razz:

[ArcadeFire]

IMO Y. Link was the most useless clone. At least Dr. Mario has more kill moves than Mario and is a tad stronger, Y.Link just has flaming arrows, a "diffrent" spin attack, and bombs that supposedly cause more explosions.

[SynikaL]

It's just because Syn plays Mario. =P


Nah....>_>....nah....


Shut up you...


Somebody mentioned Pichu. I'd definitely nominate him as the most useless character in the game.


-CyNiC

[#reload]

roy ...

meh, he's still higher tier than young link and pichu

i think the clones should have their own move set

[ABASI]

any word from the rumor mill as to what new characters to expect?

ABASI! :cool:

[quiche]

The only one I'd be interested in is KING HIPPO.

...seriously.

[specs]

Fuck you Pichu haters, that sum'bitch can WALL JUMP and, er, um, hurt himself when he attacks you! Yeah! That's EX-FUCKING-TREME!!!

...

Yeah, he's useless, but I still don't want to see him or the other "clones" (Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Young Link, Doc Mario, Luigi) gone. They're coo'.

[Remy Saotome]

Fuck you Pichu haters, that sum'bitch can WALL JUMP and, er, um, hurt himself when he attacks you! Yeah! That's EX-FUCKING-TREME!!!

...

Yeah, he's useless, but I still don't want to see him or the other "clones" (Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Young Link, Doc Mario, Luigi) gone. They're coo'.Well, IMO Falco, Roy, Ganon, and Luigi are different enough to merit remaining. They have much more major move and weight variances, and are actually legitimate other characters. Young Link is just a younger Link. Dr. Mario is just Mario in a lab coat. And Pichu is just an unevolved Pikachu that hurts himself.

And as said before, it doesn't even really bug me that they're there. Just that they are and characters like King Dedede, Wario, and Pit aren't.

Except Young Link. He really bugs me because he is the same damned person. At least even Dr. M is apparently considered a seperate character (or so I gather from him having a different "history" in the trophy section).

[ragnafrak]

lemme guess, they'll also make a new mario, a new zelda, a new metroid, and a new f-zero

it's not like we can expect anything else

[TGC]

^We may not expect too many new series from Nintendo but almost all of their recycled stuff is damn fun.

Also, with that much shit they put in SSBM, i wouldn't be surprised if they did the same for SSB Revolution, with a wide selection of characters, features, options, etc. We'll see though.

[Gen2000]

I don't mind the clones but if Luigi is any hint, the clones should have a more variety in their moves compared to the original in the next game to shut up all the haters.

[white shadow]

I think air throws would be a cool addition, they could counter air dodges only making it more of an intricate prediction game. Or air blocking!!!

:looney: Don't take me seriously.:razzy:

[TrueSephiroth]

I just heard that this game is going online, if so, nice, will give me something to do when I'm not bored.

[Omnigamer]

Meh, the clones in SSBM are different enough already to count as seperate characters, even YLink and Doc. I could go into the differences and whatnot, but I have to leave soon, and that's not really what this thread is for ;)

But yeah, Online has been more or less confirmed. The amount of lag etc. and how much it will affect online gameplay is a somewhat large argument now on different boards, but we can't really tell until it's released.

[EVERDRED]

they should put Poo and Everdred from Earthbound in it...

[Wellman]

Well, IMO Falco, Roy, Ganon, and Luigi are different enough to merit remaining. They have much more major move and weight variances, and are actually legitimate other characters. Young Link is just a younger Link. Dr. Mario is just Mario in a lab coat. And Pichu is just an unevolved Pikachu that hurts himself.

And as said before, it doesn't even really bug me that they're there. Just that they are and characters like King Dedede, Wario, and Pit aren't.

Except Young Link. He really bugs me because he is the same damned person. At least even Dr. M is apparently considered a seperate character (or so I gather from him having a different "history" in the trophy section).

Couldn't have put it better myself. When I last played SSB, I really didn't notice much difference between Dr. M and regular M, which is why I consider him practically useless to roster. Granted not as much as sthe suicidal Pichu but really, if they added a few more noticable differences like other clones in the game (Roy, Gannon, Falco, Luigi) then I would see the reasoning for his inclusion.

[EVERDRED]

ppl who play smash bros melee serously probably know the differences.

one thing i notice off the bat and i'm not even a melee player is that doctor mario pills i think do more damage and r better fire balls then marios.

[SynikaL]

Doc and Mario do have some profound differences, but not enough to alter their play styles. That's my beef with them being clones. I almost never practice my Doc, but I can play him at a high level tournament if need be (and I have). Same goes for Young Link and Pichu. The difference between those two and the Doc is that the originals do everything better, so IMO they truly are pointless.

If anyone really cares to know the real differences between Doc and Mario, ressurect "The Official SSBM Thread" and I'll go into detail.


-Kimo

[Constipated Fem]

Let's not forget these characters that SHOULD appear in the new Smash Bros:

Little Mack
Sir Metaknight
King Dededee
Cycle(Stunt Race FX)
Magic Koopa
Wario
King Boo
Dixie Kong

These characters are mandatory.

[white shadow]

Dixie Kong


Dixie Kong is owned by Rare so unfortunately she won't be available.


Syn: Mario's sweet spot forward smash is teh gay.:razzy: Street Pharmacist 4 LIFE!!!:cool:




:wink:

[EVERDRED]

well with a new upgrade graphically i'm pretty sure if they bring back clones they'll further seperate them by adding to the fighting engine and having each character use that addition to the system differently just like sf2 with ken and ryu.

[Remy Saotome]

Dixie Kong is owned by Rare so unfortunately she won't be available.What about Diddy? He still appeared in DD!!. Besides, N should buy those characters off of Rare since they are part of the Kong continuity and N owns DK.

Anyway, to add to the above list:
Rick the Hamster
Krystal
ROB the Robot
Peppy Hare
Diddy Kong
Pit

And not to nitpick, but it's Magikoopa.

[white shadow]

Paper Boy would be awesome too. Wheelie ATTACK!!!:bgrin: And everytime he wavedashes (with his bicycle) he makes the bellringer SFX. *bring-bring*:cool:

Remy I dunno about D.D. Kong but Dixie, that orangutan, that baby giant gorilla with the beanie, etc... are all property of Rare.

[SynikaL]

Dixie Kong is owned by Rare so unfortunately she won't be available.


Syn: Mario's sweet spot forward smash is teh gay.:razzy: Street Pharmacist 4 LIFE!!!:cool::wink:


Uhh, no. All characters involved in the DKC series -- including those created by Rare -- are properties of Nintendo.


I doubt Nintendo will use that reject of a character design in the next game.


-$
(I hope not)

[Remy Saotome]

I doubt Nintendo will use that reject of a character design in the next game.Hey! I like Dixie.

Although Chunky, Lanky, and Tiny I can do without.

[Wellman]

Diddy and Cranky Kong are the only additions to the Kong Legacy really worth frequent use.

I think that last game they held a voting contest in Japan on who should appear. Wario should be a given at this point, maybe Olimar from Pikmin or Kid Icarus. Heck maybe even borrow Sonic like people have been asking for since the original.

[SynikaL]

<3 Cranky


-Syn

[{PFH}-Lake]

i hope they have Toad. And new pokemon, it would be cool if you could play as Gengar.

Theres still lots of people they could add
Animal Crossing
Custom Robo
Daisy
Foxs girl friend-forget her name
Waluigi
Wario
Sir Meta Knight
Balloon Fight
Clu Clu Land
Urban Champion
Wild Gunman
mario rpg
paper mario
Banjo-Tooie
Star Twins-jp only
Pikmin
Baby Bowser

[Remy Saotome]

Foxs girl friend-forget her nameKrystal. There's no way I could've forgotten her.

[{PFH}-Lake]

Krystal. There's no way I could've forgotten her. Yeah shes kool, but I dont think theyll add her, even though they should. It would be kool to see random people in the next smash like, Shyguy.

[SynikaL]

God, why do poeple want to see any traces of Rare's character incompetence in the next game?



-Syn

[white shadow]

God, why do poeple want to see any traces of Rare's character incompetence in the next game?



-Syn

James Bond for SSBR!!!:clap:

[ytwojay]

I demand more Earthbound characters!

[Omnigamer]

All characters in Golden Sun and the newest Fire Emblems are also fair play.

[Remy Saotome]

God, why do poeple want to see any traces of Rare's character incompetence in the next game?Seriously, what's wrong with them? Dixie was fun to use in DKC2/3, and Krystal is on of the best characters in SFAssualt's DM. And I think they look cool. So that's why I want them in Smash Rev. Why don't you?

[white shadow]

Seriously, what's wrong with them? Dixie was fun to use in DKC2/3, and Krystal is on of the best characters in SFAssualt's DM. And I think they look cool. So that's why I want them in Smash Rev. Why don't you?

His name is Synikal isn't it? :pleased:

[Remy Saotome]

His name is Synikal isn't it? :pleased::rofl: LOL

[roninwarrior24]

1. Give Ganondorf a completely new movelist. Instead of a C. Falcon clone, we should get the evil wizard that he is in the Zelda games. Give him some fireballs, shields, and make him use his sword.

2. Add Hector, Isaac, Lyn, Ephraim, and Garet, giving them completely different play styles and movesets. Change Marth and Roy's playstyles.

3. Add the obvioius characters like Wario, etc.

Finally, the biggest change:

NO MORE CLONES!!!

There, I've said it.

[Remy Saotome]

2. Add Hector, Isaac, Lyn, Ephraim, and Garet, giving them completely different play styles and movesets. Change Marth and Roy's playstyles.A: What's wrong with Roy and Marth as they are now?
B: This isn't Super Fire Emblem Melee.

[Wellman]

GAME & WATCH Clone in the form of either SP or DS.

Imagine the possibilities.

[crazy104]

They should take out Roy and put in Ephraim.

[SynikaL]

Seriously, what's wrong with them? Dixie was fun to use in DKC2/3, and Krystal is on of the best characters in SFAssualt's DM. And I think they look cool. So that's why I want them in Smash Rev. Why don't you?

Well obviously to each man his own. I don't want to come across as some arrogant ass asserting his opinion on the matter as fact. But there are two things that are generally regarded as things Rare should just not attempt to do:

1. Write their own stories.

2. Design their own characters.

Unfortunately, much to the chargrin of cynics everywhere Rare chooses to do these things anyway. I consider Rare's character designs abominations of artistry and imagination. Banjo Kazooie, the Conker series, Diddy Kong Racing, Jet Force Gemini (ugh), all spit in the faces of childrens' Trapper Keeper doodles everywhere. I'll put Krystal on that list also.

Kay I'll admit, Dixie really isn't bad and I love Diddy and Cranky but I honestly have a feeling that Nintendo had a hand in designing the DKC cast as they're really the only characters I've seen come out of Rare's stable that don't blow harder than Monica Lewinski (too hackneyed?).

One thing worth mentioning though, is that I feel Hal and Nintendo cam work a number on any of Rare's characters and give them the personality they deserve. So there really isn't all that much to be skeptical about.

His name is Synikal isn't it?

Damn. I just got owned.


-CyNiC

[Remy Saotome]

Well obviously to each man his own. I don't want to come across as some arrogant ass asserting his opinion on the matter as fact. I'm not coming off like that, am I? My bad if so. I was only stating my opinion.

Honestly, I do have to agree with most of your points. IMO, Banjo-Kazooie were really lame, ditto those new guys in Diddy Racing and Conker. Never even played a demo of JFG though. But I still like Diddy, Dixie, Cranky, and Krystal. And I really think that Krystal could be made pretty distinct from Fox and Falco by giving her back her staff and building some attacks around that for Smash.

[Shirasaya Blade]

Where can i get videos of this game showing what wave dashing looks like? (it sure wont look like wave dashing in MvC2 right? lol)

[{PFH}-Lake]

other
Kid Icarus
Koopa Troopa
Geno-mario rpg
Donky Kongs Boss, King Kroc whatever his name is.
King Dedede-kirby

[RoboGem II]

Ganondorf - Needs a bloody sword, get rid of ALL of his moves he copied from Captain Falcon, especially that Warlock punch that by the time he pulls it off, his opponent can go into the kitchen, make a sandwich, get a soda, and be back just to jab him in the head.
Dr. Mario - While moves contact differently, should still either GO or get a different moveset.
Falco - Needs a different moveset instead of being a bit slower, suckier and jumps a bit higher than Fox.
Pichu - Sucks, euthenize the little bugger.
Mewtwo - Needs a better roll (for those who aren't willing to learn wavedash), needs more hard hitting moves, needs more practical B moves.
Young Link and Link - Jesus christ can't we just have the new Link from the new Zelda who looks a bit older than the first and younger than the second and just keep one? Two Links are just stupid.
Roy - Some different moves, different ->B combos from Marth, something more agressive to replace his crappy counter attack.
Samus - I don't really remember Samus having a Flame Thrower in any of the games, I could be wrong, but why the hell does she have one anyway, its not even that good >_>
Fox - Water down that mofo's Up+A, friggin seriously, a kill at 50% by some noob who presses up on the yellow stick is instant death on low ceiling levels, on high ceiling 80-90%.
Captain Falcon - One hit invincibility on Falcon Punch
Kirby - That taunt fucking pisses me off, have whoever uses that taunt over and over and over again make the gamecube send an electrical current through the controller to fry the mutherfucker's hands off.

[SynikaL]

Where can i get videos of this game showing what wave dashing looks like? (it sure wont look like wave dashing in MvC2 right? lol)


I'll send some vids through AIM if you want. Name is in the sig.



-Syn

[Infernoman]

Ganondorf - Needs a bloody sword, get rid of ALL of his moves he copied from Captain Falcon, especially that Warlock punch that by the time he pulls it off, his opponent can go into the kitchen, make a sandwich, get a soda, and be back just to jab him in the head.
Dr. Mario - While moves contact differently, should still either GO or get a different moveset.
Falco - Needs a different moveset instead of being a bit slower, suckier and jumps a bit higher than Fox.
Pichu - Sucks, euthenize the little bugger.
Mewtwo - Needs a better roll (for those who aren't willing to learn wavedash), needs more hard hitting moves, needs more practical B moves.
Young Link and Link - Jesus christ can't we just have the new Link from the new Zelda who looks a bit older than the first and younger than the second and just keep one? Two Links are just stupid.
Roy - Some different moves, different ->B combos from Marth, something more agressive to replace his crappy counter attack.
Samus - I don't really remember Samus having a Flame Thrower in any of the games, I could be wrong, but why the hell does she have one anyway, its not even that good >_>
Fox - Water down that mofo's Up+A, friggin seriously, a kill at 50% by some noob who presses up on the yellow stick is instant death on low ceiling levels, on high ceiling 80-90%.
Captain Falcon - One hit invincibility on Falcon Punch
Kirby - That taunt fucking pisses me off, have whoever uses that taunt over and over and over again make the gamecube send an electrical current through the controller to fry the mutherfucker's hands off.

You're basically saying you want EVERYBODY to have completly different MS? and you want the top tier character nerffed? hmmm looks familiar?...