Hori Real Arcade Pro FAQ for all versions

[Sycho]

Beware - those QDs are more vicious than they seem!

(Deeply bruised my finger trying to manually pull one off - 2 days later and it's still throbbing occasionally)

[Superking]

Updated the first post with new info.

[spoon]

Finally got around to cutting out the plastic basin. Figure someone might wanna know the effects.

The portion I dremelled off was abit thicker than I imagined it to be, but still rather light (maybe 150 grams?). I can now access pretty much all the parts inside the case from the bottom by just removing the base plate.

In regards to the sound insulation issue, I seriously cannot tell the difference between either of my HRAP2's (one with and one without the basin cut out). From the outside, they're cosmetically and audibly identical. Maybe if I put in brand new PCBs that still have a very crisp 'click' to them there'd be a difference, but I somehow doubt that.

Overall, if you like opening up your sticks alot and you have to tools to do it, I don't see a downside to cutting out the basin. All you need is a dremel or jigsaw and abit of sandpaper to smooth out the edges :)

[Prometheus1024]

Anyone know where to get the xbox dragonbox converter? I checked the major outlets (lik-sang etc.) and even did a google for dragonbox with no luck.

[Gen-An]

Since there arent many pics of the version 2 hrap1, here are some of mine

http://tolkien.ausgamers.com/hrap/100_4737.jpg
http://tolkien.ausgamers.com/hrap/100_4736.jpg
http://tolkien.ausgamers.com/hrap/100_4731.jpg
http://tolkien.ausgamers.com/hrap/100_4724.jpg

just needs some sanwa buttons :D


Your Namco stick looks lonely and unloved sitting on the floor...

[SentientProgram]

Anybody know if it's possible to put Happ buttons in a HRAP?

[Ruffles4Edge]

Anybody know if it's possible to put Happ buttons in a HRAP?

Asking the same question,dont have paypal account yet... those buttons fit or not http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/601200xx.htm ? and is it worth it or the hori buttons are betteR?

[SentientProgram]

@ruffles - it's really a matter of what you like, personally I really like the feel of american buttons, but I like the feel of the japanese sticks better. The hori buttons really aren't that good IMO, so if you are going to go japanese go sanwa. But hey some people don't mind hori buttons.

[SNAAAAKE]

can I install the bat shaft from himuragames on Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK ?? talking abou this here http://www.himuragames.com/images/battops_06.jpg

[Superking]

Yes you can.

[SNAAAAKE]

where can I get one of these in the US ?? http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/hori-real-arcade-pro1.jpg

I would order one from lik sang but they want $65 shipping :confused:
can always build one but I need to try it out first and see if I can play on this.

[Superking]

Check out the first post of this thread, there are links to places where you can buy HRAPs.

[MalignantMouse]

where did y'all buy your hrap1 v.2's and how much you pay? maybe i'm mistaken, but the pics on play-asia and lik sang look like hrap 1 v.1's still.

[tolkien]

i got mine from play-asia

[insomnotek]

you should be able to put happ buttons on a hrap. i put them on a t5 stick before

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/insomnotek/Stick/happ.jpg

the space gets a little cramped with the t5 stick because of the bigass pcb, but since the hrap uses wires instead of soldering directly to the board it should be much eaiser

[NiteWalker]

where can I get one of these in the US ?? http://image.lik-sang.com/images//large/hori-real-arcade-pro1.jpg

I would order one from lik sang but they want $65 shipping :confused:
can always build one but I need to try it out first and see if I can play on this.

Why not build a test panel ( just the cp top) out of hard board and order some sanwa parts from ponyboy on BYOAC just to see if you like it? Cheaper than buying an HRAP for sure, and if you end up not liking the feel of the sanwas you could always sell them in the trading forum. Peoples likes dems sanwas.
Peace.
NW

[Master Chibi]

Is it possible to put ART on my HRAP 1, you know, replacing the mirror plate that I have on it now?

:P

[NiteWalker]

Just get your design printed on adheasive backed vinyl.

[SNAAAAKE]

Why not build a test panel ( just the cp top) out of hard board and order some sanwa parts from ponyboy on BYOAC just to see if you like it? Cheaper than buying an HRAP for sure, and if you end up not liking the feel of the sanwas you could always sell them in the trading forum. Peoples likes dems sanwas.
Peace.
NW


good idea I might go for it.

Is it possible to put ART on my HRAP 1, you know, replacing the mirror plate that I have on it now?

:P

you SURE its a real sanwa ?? cuz your stick is teh suck !! :annoy: I swear it was a lot different than the one smooth had at ECC. anyway..you can design your artwork and have mamemarquees.com print it on protective vinyl. that shit is top tier..scratch resistent and everything..almost like a very thin layer of plexi glass.

[Master Chibi]

Yes it's Sanwa, exact same thing as Smooth's.

Mine's HRAP 1, I think they have HRAP2, not sure, don't think there's a difference.

;p

[Ruffles4Edge]

you should be able to put happ buttons on a hrap. i put them on a t5 stick before

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/insomnotek/Stick/happ.jpg

the space gets a little cramped with the t5 stick because of the bigass pcb, but since the hrap uses wires instead of soldering directly to the board it should be much eaiser

is that competition push buttons?

[Matarick]

I know this thread is very long but I intend to mod a CFJ RAP with pure Semitsu parts. Somebody from another forum suggested me to get a LS55-01 but not too sure about that since I thought I would love to get the LS32-01 like all of the serious SFers? The seller said that he would include the Sanwa like plugs so I can just disconnect the cable to use with my RAP v1.

Are Semetisu buttons harder to install than Sanwas on the RAP 1? I finally got SFZ:FG and I want to play some hardcore arcade styled SF once in my life.

[SNAAAAKE]

so I got a hrap1 from lik-sang. questions :

I fitted a battop and I have 2 dust washer. do I need to use both or ?? I took out the one that was inside and now the stick works little better.

it doesnt work with any xbox converter. and the faq says it works with dragon box..is it 100% lag free ? ? can someone confirm.

whats with all these gates I hear about ? what gate does hrap1 comes with and whats the differnece between all the other gates(octagonal and such)

thanks in advance ! :tup::nunchuck:

[ramza]

bump fore its too late

[laurie47]

Has anyone got the dimensions for a hrap? Im making a wooden version :)

[Master Chibi]

Ok, so a friend put in some orange Sanwa buttons into my HRAP v1, and changed the balltop. Feels great, but now I still want to finish it up.

1. I need to 'plug' those first two buttons as I don't even use them. I was originally going to keep them for KoF play, but now even KoF has changed its button scheme.

2. I'm missing a bolt (guess he lost it) in the upper left hand corner, can I just pick it up at Home Depot to replace it? I still have the washer / nut oddly enough.

3. Ok, now I want to get rid of the metal plate and put some art on there. Do I need to get lexan do this? What does the art need be printed on if I need to get lexan?

Thanks to anyone who can help me out ;D!

[dReW]

sorry to drudge up an old topic,

can anyone recommend me a ps2->xbox adapater for the HRAP2 that is currently available? I've read many good things about the magicbox, however it appears to be out of stock whereever I look. there was one post recommending the redoctane converter. anyone else have experience with that?

also, can anyone link me to the innovation adapater on ebay so I know what it looks like? the link to the auction posted earlier is too old.

thanks for any help

[CarlosZ]

Hey guys, just a few questions, I can screw this on the shaft of a JLF sanwa (stock Hrap ver 2)?

LB-30N, Joystick BAT top
http://www.himuragames.com/store_joyacc.php

And there is absolutely no way to change the stick to a seimitsu LS-32?? (remember HRAP 1 ver. 2)

[Demon Dash]

I'm trying to hook my hacked PSOne pad to a 5 pin connector but I'm not sure how it's calibrated. Ie, which the ground is etc. Can someone list which goes where from 1-5? Ie, 1-up, 2-down, 3-left, 4-right, 5-ground.

[dbzzx]

Exactly when is the HORI REAL ARCADE PRO SPECIAL EDITION coming out?

[Turbovec]

So....has anyone figured out if something other than the Wind Spirit works as a USB adapter. Because I can't seem to find one for the life of me.

[E-bortion]

The Radioshack USB adapter works fine. Only costs $10. That is, if thats the question you asked?

[Turbovec]

ok, I have one of those, but for some odd reason I have to be incredibly precise with all of my games. As for when I play it on the PS2, it seems to be a little more lax. Oh well, I'll just have to get used to it.

[SNAAAAKE]

I'm trying to hook my hacked PSOne pad to a 5 pin connector but I'm not sure how it's calibrated. Ie, which the ground is etc. Can someone list which goes where from 1-5? Ie, 1-up, 2-down, 3-left, 4-right, 5-ground.



1 - ground
2 - left
3 - right
4 - down
5 - up

:karate:

[Cheesey]

I have a couple of questions about the HRAP

1. For those who own the HRAP2 (arcade cabinet button layout), do you find that the main buttons are too close to the joystick? Looking at the japanese console button layout, the main buttons are further away. The buttons in question that I'm referring to are [] /\ O X R1 R2.

This is the main thing that concerns me and would make me want to buy a HRAP1 over a HRAP2. However, I would like to hear some of your opinions about this.

2. I'm wanting to replace the hori buttons on the cheap, and want to know if the GREEN sanwa buttons are the same shade of green as the standard hori buttons of the HRAP1. Similarly, are the red sanwa buttons the same red used on the HRAP2s?

If so, then that's great news as I'd only have to buy six sanwa buttons and just leave the L1 and L2 buttons in there. I'd like confirmation though.

Thanks.

[hellhound7]

the color is vermillion I know The Real NeoGeo sales em. the reg red is darker.

[Blueknight78c]

I've been looking through this thread (and others) and I haven't seen the answer to a question I have concerning the US T5 Hori stick: I'd like to change the joystick's square restrictor to an octagonal restrictor without having to get a totally new joystick part. I've seen the octagonal restrictors for the JLF-TP-8Y on sale by themselves. Not I'm wondering, would this restrictor work with the Hori stick that's in the US T5 Hori stick?
Thanks to anyone who might be able to help me.

[laurie47]

No it wont. It will only fit a sanwa JLF.

[Blueknight78c]

Damn, ok thanks.

[Paik4Life]

Actually, according to people in another thread (DOA Mod for the Lazy), you can replace the restrictors in most any Hori with a JLF restrictor. I haven't done this myself. I doubt that I'd find it worth it, but go there for more details.

~Paik

[Hitman]

Converters:

Where exactly can I get a Wind Spirit or Magic Box? I need USB & Xbox connectivity.

[V4MPIRO]

this is the inside of my HRAP
can the LS-32 fit in there?
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030332.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030331.jpg
thanx.

[Jaeger]

Hi my HRAP1 ps/2 cord got cut. Does anyone know how to get a replacement?

[darkhiryuu]

In regards to both the Innovation Dreamcast converter and the Wind Spirit PC converter, I was wondering if anyone could confirm that these are both it. These websites are selling them and I wanted to make sure they would both work well with my Hori Real Arcade Pro stick.

Innovation: http://www.innovation1.com/ under the Sega and Dreamcast tabs, labeled as Dream Connection II

Wind Spirit: http://www.superufo.com/product_html...nverter_V.html

[Daigohji]

I have the v2 of the HRAP1 (non-mirror finish) and am having a hell of a time opening it up. After unscrewing the bottom, there're some nuts and bolts down very deep that I cannot access with my socket wrench (not enough length down there to fit the wrench - these vertical plastic bars are in the way). I'd imagine an adjustable mechanical wrench would do the trick but am not sure. Any tips on how to open this thing?

I know you managed to get around this, but I'd just like to mention an alternate solution. For those with socket wrenches, just fit the hex end of the 7mm socket to the nut, then insert a small pair of scissors into the (usually) square adaptor end. Open the scissors so that they're flush with opposite corners of the socket's interior and then you'll have enough leverage to rotate the nut off. It's ghetto, but it gets the job done :wgrin: I mention this since pliers can be impossible to fit down to the middle two nuts on the HRAP unless they have a long head.

oh, and if you're finding that you're needing to take the top plate off alot later on, you might wanna get something that i call a 'bolt driver'. I really have no idea what its actual name is, but it kinda looks like a screwdriver except the tip of it allows you to turn bolts instead of screws.

Depending on the manufacturer they're variously called nutdrivers, nut screwdrivers or nut spinners. A 7mm one tends to go for £7-10.

I'd also like to add a couple of adaptors that I've found to be lag-free: MagicJoy (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-70-fi1.html) for USB; Total Control Plus (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-h5-49-en-15-total%2Bcontrol-70-en.html) for Dreamcast. The latter has an unexplained switch on the side that sets the button config for different devices. Set it to the far right position for joystick mode.

So, can I get some help with my question (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118905)? :sweat:

[Paik4Life]

In regards to both the Innovation Dreamcast converter and the Wind Spirit PC converter, I was wondering if anyone could confirm that these are both it. These websites are selling them and I wanted to make sure they would both work well with my Hori Real Arcade Pro stick.

Innovation: http://www.innovation1.com/ under the Sega and Dreamcast tabs, labeled as Dream Connection II

Wind Spirit: http://www.superufo.com/product_html...nverter_V.html

Both these converters are listed as lag-free on the very first post of this thread.

~Paik

[V4MPIRO]

bump

[Alax.cool.]

bump

search button.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102216&highlight=HRAP+seimitsu

[blackstar14]

Aright, so I ordered a LS-32 from AkihabaraShop and have a HRAP, and ended up getting the one without the Modulex piece (white piece where wires go it. Thanks Alax.Cool btw) and I don't have alot of soldering experince and don't feel comfortable cutting all the wires off and soldering them to the directions for the stick or w/e. So, I think i'll either have someone who has expierence do it or buy one with the Modulex piece. Instead i'm just going to try and put the stick that I ordered in (battop) on the Sawna balltop. I haven't seen any guides for it so does it come with directions, or is it pretty self explanitory.

Also, if I do end up getting one of the LS-32 models with the modulex piece do I just like pull it off of the stick I currently have and it'll go right in on the Ls-32, or is it more difficult than that?

[Mayhem]

Also, if I do end up getting one of the LS-32 models with the modulex piece do I just like pull it off of the stick I currently have and it'll go right in on the Ls-32, or is it more difficult than that?
Depends on which HRAP you've got, the earlier production runs had a cross shaped mounting bracket already suitable for an LS-32-01 while the current ones do not. If you do not have the cross shaped bracket you might as well not bother and the only way to be sure is to open up your HRAP. Aside from the 5-pin connector the LS-32-01 also has a different S-shaped mounting plate which would give a better surface shaft length, with the flat plate of an LS-32 the shaft would feel very short.

[tolkien]

Think i've posted some of these pics before, but heres everything in 1 place

My HRAP1V2 Pics:

HRAP1V2 Box: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4723.jpg
HRAP1V2 Packaging: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4724.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Inside: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4731.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Outside 1: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4732.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Outside 2: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4737.jpg
HRAP1V2 Modded Inside: www.tolkano.net/hrap/new.inside.jpg (plastic was cut out with a rotary tool for easy modding/changing of parts)
HRAP1V2 Modded Outside 1: www.tolkano.net/hrap/latest.jpg
HRAP1V2 Modded Outside 2: www.tolkano.net/hrap/modded.hrap.side.jpg

[eyeDK]

I have a T5 stick that I tried to get modified with a sanwa, after putting the sanwa in the T5 it didn't feel right. The sanwa stick seemed longer and didn't feel like the sanwa in the HRAP2 or the CFJ stick. Later the sanwa from the CFJ stick was put into my T5 stick and it felt like a HRAP. What needs to be done with a sanwa in a T5 stick to make it feel like a HRAP?

[V4MPIRO]

I have a T5 stick that I tried to get modified with a sanwa, after putting the sanwa in the T5 it didn't feel right. The sanwa stick seemed longer and didn't feel like the sanwa in the HRAP2 or the CFJ stick. Later the sanwa from the CFJ stick was put into my T5 stick and it felt like a HRAP. What needs to be done with a sanwa in a T5 stick to make it feel like a HRAP?

switch d shaft, use the one with the t5.

[BigEd80]

Think i've posted some of these pics before, but heres everything in 1 place

My HRAP1V2 Pics:

HRAP1V2 Box: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4723.jpg
HRAP1V2 Packaging: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4724.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Inside: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4731.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Outside 1: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4732.jpg
HRAP1V2 Stock Outside 2: www.tolkano.net/hrap/100_4737.jpg
HRAP1V2 Modded Inside: www.tolkano.net/hrap/new.inside.jpg (plastic was cut out with a rotary tool for easy modding/changing of parts)
HRAP1V2 Modded Outside 1: www.tolkano.net/hrap/modded.hrap.jpg
HRAP1V2 Modded Outside 2: www.tolkano.net/hrap/modded.hrap.side.jpg

I don't think I would have cut the plastic. Doesn't that affect the weight of the stick?

[tolkien]

I don't think I would have cut the plastic. Doesn't that affect the weight of the stick?

no, weight is the same

[eyeDK]

switch d shaft, use the one with the t5.

I thought the shaft in the T5 was even longer, how would that fix the problem?

[blackstar14]

Two quick questions

1. I have a HRAPv1 and I have a color scheme I'm going with, but the green turbo buttons kinda don't look right with it. Is there an easy way to remove them with out a possiblility of messing up the pcb?

2. How do I remove the 5-pin connector to the stock stick? Do I just forcfully pull it off or is ther another method. And, if/when I do, can I just stick it back on the the new stick (which would already have the spot for the connector)

[hellhound7]

Two quick questions

1. I have a HRAPv1 and I have a color scheme I'm going with, but the green turbo buttons kinda don't look right with it. Is there an easy way to remove them with out a possiblility of messing up the pcb?

2. How do I remove the 5-pin connector to the stock stick? Do I just forcfully pull it off or is ther another method. And, if/when I do, can I just stick it back on the the new stick (which would already have the spot for the connector)

All you have to do is unscrew the panel that the turbo buttons are in, you should see them when you lift up the main panel. There are these little clamps on the sides of the turbo panel, just lift it up and you can pull off the panel. Take switches out then screw panel back on.

If it's got some glue on it just peal it off. Once the glue is off just pull on it, gotta use a little force, should just come off fine.

[shoryukenH2]

Anyone know if the Super Joy Box 3 Pro works well with HRAP1?
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-15-pc%2Busb-70-qc2.html

It seems to be the same thing as the sold out S-Joy Converter which supposedly worked very well with HRAP. http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-6m-49-en-15-pc+usb-70-gt.html

[tolkien]

I've got the 3 in 1 pc joybox by mayflash that converts psx,dc and saturn and my hrap works perfect on it

[blackstar14]

Thanks for that. Any responses to the second question?

[SNkNuT]

Thanks for that. Any responses to the second question?

if there's glue peel it off and pull it out. then just plug it back in when you're done. it's very easy.

[asicx]

I have a question: on a scale of 1-10, 1 being a cheap Shadowblade Gamestop arcade stick :p and 10 being a Japanese arcade cabinet stick, how does a stock unmodded HRAP v2 rate?

Because all of this modding, I would do it in a snap. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME FEEL INFERIOR! However, I have no soldering skills which I'm going to learn on some broken VCR PCBs for fun. And, I just got it in the mail today. If I break it, I would kill myself by sticking my soldering iron up my ass.

Also, I read on the first page - HRAP v2 joystick can't be modded? Is that going to be a problem for me in the future when the stick starts to feel loose?

I probably will end up modding the buttons once I gain enough soldering skills.

[V4MPIRO]

I have a question: on a scale of 1-10, 1 being a cheap Shadowblade Gamestop arcade stick :p and 10 being a Japanese arcade cabinet stick, how does a stock unmodded HRAP v2 rate?

Because all of this modding, I would do it in a snap. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME FEEL INFERIOR! However, I have no soldering skills which I'm going to learn on some broken VCR PCBs for fun. And, I just got it in the mail today. If I break it, I would kill myself by sticking my soldering iron up my ass.

Also, I read on the first page - HRAP v2 joystick can't be modded? Is that going to be a problem for me in the future when the stick starts to feel loose?

I probably will end up modding the buttons once I gain enough soldering skills.

well you should get the hori tekken 5 at gamestop for only $30
and modd it, for practice, and then mod your hrap

[V4MPIRO]

about to finish modding my sec Hori t5
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030342.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030344.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030343.jpg

[Gen-An]

Also, I read on the first page - HRAP v2 joystick can't be modded? Is that going to be a problem for me in the future when the stick starts to feel loose?

The mounting plate is different from the original HRAP so putting a Seimitsu would be a problem, but you'd be able to replace the stick with another Sanwa JLF no problem.

[SNkNuT]

has somebody successfully put a seimitsu stick in the hrap 1 ver. 2?

[SpizyN00dles]

^ Was wondering that also.

[V4MPIRO]

^ Was wondering that also.

same here.

Anyways here's my new Hori t5
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030346.jpg

[asicx]

Vampiro, did you paint the surface, contact paper it, or what?

[V4MPIRO]

paint it

[hwotk]

i have 2 sanwas joysticks instaled 1 in my hrap and other in my custom stick but the problem is that both of them balltops are unscrew'ing from joystick after few minutes of playing any tips how to fix that ?

i love the metalic effect here V4MPIRO
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030344.jpg

have u used the sand paper and later painted it ??

[GoldenYear]

Here's my effort,

Seimisu LS-40 stick, and snap in buttons:

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0412wm6.jpg
http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0411rs9.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0415kx7.jpg

[markR]

Here's my effort,

Seimisu LS-40 stick, and snap in buttons:

http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0412wm6.jpg
http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0411rs9.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0415kx7.jpg

What did you do for the artwork? Is it vinyl? Print-out?

[Gen-An]

That's the CFJ HRAP. The artwork is there by default.

[Jaeger]

Is there any place I can buy a HRAP v1 anymore?

[hellhound7]

you might wanna hit up japanvideogames.com they might have some

[snake11885]

Hey guys i was wondering if anybody knew where they are selling Xbox Magic Box adapters. Everywhere I've seen it's sold out. I bought the Dragon Box and I saw lag in normal play. Thanks ahead of time

[hwotk]

hello maybe someone who did some moding on his hrap could tell me what to do with the cables that i'm not using beacuse i dont need L1 L2 so the cables are lying inside the 'box' but whenever i'm leaving them like that they getting pressed/short circuit occurs. how can i get rid of that

[orionis]

i just recently purchased the HRAP and i have found that the joystick is too sensitive for me. the 3rd strike arcade i play on has the baseball style top and is very firm. i believe the arcande is an american cabinet, but i'm not entirely sure. i was wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to the replace the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK with a joystick that is firm (like the 3s american cabinets) on the HRAP? if anyone can tell me the type of joystick 3s american cabinets have it would help me out a lot. thanks.

also the piece on the bottom of the Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK is rectangular and not circular (which im used too), any information on this would help as well.

[Superking]

Mods have been done to modify the top panel of the HRAP to add in a Happ Competition (uh the US stick you're referring to). But it is not the easiest of mods, I think poon here on these boards is the guy who has done it. Well not with the HRAP but with the Tekken 5 Hori which essentially has the same body as a HRAP.

If you can't get used to your HRAP, you're better off selling it or trading it for a Happ stick rather than going through the work in trying to put a Happ stick in there.

[orionis]

well, i guess i'll look into purchasing a good happ stick. but i guess this raises more questions lol. first of all, we just got new 3s machines at the local arcade, and they are japanese cabinets but the sticks are battop. the ones on the new japanese cabinets are VERY stiff compared to the american cabinet i was playing on before. you said that the american battop was the happ competition? could these new (stiffer) ones be the Ultimate Happ with a Hard spring? or just another version of the happ competition with a hard spring?

what is a good happ stick to purchase? i looked into the Street fighter anniversary happ stick .... but i have heard mixed reviews about it.

this also caught my eye http://www.massystems.com/ProStick.html
would you suggest these?

basically, i'm looking for a (stiff) happ stick setup that i can order online. links would be great.

thanks again guys.

[Superking]

Well IIRC the mod I was talking about had a Competition on it (but I maybe wrong), anyway the Comp if I remember right has a square restrictor like Japanese sticks so it's not that you're used to. The other alternatives from Happ are the Super, Ultimate or P360 which I'm sure are all round.

If the SFAE Happ version is still around you should pick that up, or get a SFAE stick and mod it with Happ parts. There's a tutorial in this forum for that, just use the search function for it.

MAS sticks are hit or miss, some people hate them and others swear by them, the best suggestion is just get a custom stick, but if it's out of your price range then go for a MAS or SFAE Happ stick.

[Strider Hiryu]

I have a question: on a scale of 1-10, 1 being a cheap Shadowblade Gamestop arcade stick :p and 10 being a Japanese arcade cabinet stick, how does a stock unmodded HRAP v2 rate?

Because all of this modding, I would do it in a snap. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ME FEEL INFERIOR! However, I have no soldering skills which I'm going to learn on some broken VCR PCBs for fun. And, I just got it in the mail today. If I break it, I would kill myself by sticking my soldering iron up my ass.

Also, I read on the first page - HRAP v2 joystick can't be modded? Is that going to be a problem for me in the future when the stick starts to feel loose?

I probably will end up modding the buttons once I gain enough soldering skills.

hrapv2 is easy as fuck mod... just a little harder than v1 coz the connectors are on kinda tight.

stick is an easy mod too... but with that sanwa i dont see it going bad for atleast 16 months, and thats if you hellla play.

but yea... theres no soldering with the hraps. everything is snap in.

as far as the HRAP v1 is concerned, straight outta box id give it an 8...

hori buttons are asshole... get those replaced with sanwas immediately.

i have a v2 modded with all sanwas and an octagon restrictor gate... works great.

[Cyrox]

How can I put custom art on my HRAP?
http://shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107975

Damn the thread must have been removed, can't find it.

What to do what to do :/
Anyone that could help me out ? Going to change the artwork on my now modded T5 HRAP.

[Superking]

Just bumping this up so it doesn't get deleted or anything. =)

[memecomplex]

Anyone have the SCIII HRAP?
Are the Hori buttons on those better than the JP T5 stick?

Thanks

[Superking]

^ Not that I know of, most people just have HRAP1, HRAP1B, CFJRAP or the HRAP2.
But it's safe to say that the SC3 HRAP has the same buttons as the T5 HRAP, Hori uses the same type of buttons for the most part on their products.

I updated the first post with the HRAP3 info and I fixed some information up as well.

[memecomplex]

You're probably right. It does feel pretty sweet for stock hori buttons though. Miles ahead of some of my other joysticks.

[KIDORPHAN]

I am sort of new to the world of home arcade sticks but not the arcade, don't get me wrong though. I wanted to know the difference between the button types of the Hori sticks? The type of buttons that I like are the flat ones, I don't know if anyone has the DC arcade stick, but I like that type of button. I like the JP stlye arcade if that helps any. And also what do you guys think is the best in quality or serious tournament play? Thanks!

[r-ch1e]

what's better to mod my hrap2 with snap in or screw in Seimetsu buttons

[Superking]

I am sort of new to the world of home arcade sticks but not the arcade, don't get me wrong though. I wanted to know the difference between the button types of the Hori sticks? The type of buttons that I like are the flat ones, I don't know if anyone has the DC arcade stick, but I like that type of button. I like the JP stlye arcade if that helps any. And also what do you guys think is the best in quality or serious tournament play? Thanks!

The best in quality or serious play is using actual arcade parts (be it Sanwa/Seimitsu/Happ/Crown/Sticknara whatever/etc.).

But if you are talking about standard default consumer parts, then the HRAP's buttons would be up there since apparently they are the highest level quality of stock buttons.

what's better to mod my hrap2 with snap in or screw in Seimetsu buttons

Because of the metal plate, snap-in, but you could use screw-ins also, it's up to you there's no difference between the two except for the locking mechanism.

[RoBoBOBR]

Can you tell me exact measurements of the HRAP? And is there any difference in size between HRAP and HRAP 2?

[Superking]

Can you tell me exact measurements of the HRAP? And is there any difference in size between HRAP and HRAP 2?

As far as I know, and since there hasn't been any word of it, all HRAPs have the same casing (except inside area maybe different as is the case with the HRAP1 version B apparently, see the first post in this thread for more info regarding that).

[Demon Dash]

Because of the metal plate, snap-in, but you could use screw-ins also, it's up to you there's no difference between the two except for the locking mechanism.
The HRAP2 can't be modded with snap-ins though because of them being so close to the mounting. I'm guessing it'll be the same with the HRAP3...

[ParryAll]

Hey guys I need impressions on the DOA4 stick for 360. How is it?

I am thinking of picking one up for SF2Turbo and Virtua Fighter 4.

Also, is Sega bringing it's Virtua Stick to the 360 now that VF4 has been announced?

[Deimon-Y]

HORI Real Arcade Pro Stick 3 is soon out.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zl-77-2-49-en-15-hori-70-1rrr.html

The question is,
is it fully compatible with the PS2?I prefer it then the Original version and if it is working on PS2 I'll definetely preorder it.

[Superking]

HORI Real Arcade Pro Stick 3 is soon out.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zl-77-2-49-en-15-hori-70-1rrr.html

The question is,
is it fully compatible with the PS2?I prefer it then the Original version and if it is working on PS2 I'll definetely preorder it.

The HRAP3 is for the PlayStation 3 only, and it connects to the PS3 via USB cord.

Whether or not it works on anything else, we don't know.

DemonDash that's good to know, I'll go update the first post.

[Liner]

hi guys,

i'm searching for HRAP special edition (seimitsu parts), i used to know there was no more in sale, but now it appears in the main page of www.hori.jp. i think it might be available again, but i don't know where to buy it. i readed somewhere that it was exclusively to buy in www.horistore.com. is that true? and if it's true, how the fuck can i buy in a japanese page without dying trying? thanks in advance for the help.

here's a pic of my current custom stick ;)
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o201/liner1979/Imagen001.jpg

[M K L]

The best in quality or serious play is using actual arcade parts (be it Sanwa/Seimitsu/Happ/Crown/Sticknara whatever/etc.).

But if you are talking about standard default consumer parts, then the HRAP's buttons would be up there since apparently they are the highest level quality of stock buttons.

Hori stock buttons feel the same as Seimitsu buttons which is not surprising since they use the same switches, Tokai brand. In Japanese buttons the switch is everything since there are no springs under the plunger as on US buttons. If a Japanese button feels good or bad it is because of the switch. Hence people that say Hori's suck while Sanwa/Seimitsu's are god are ridiculous.

[Mayhem]

Hori stock buttons feel the same as Seimitsu buttons which is not surprising since they use the same switches, Tokai brand.
From what I've seen only PS-14-K, PS-14-P and PS-14-D(N) feature the same switch as Hori's buttons, PS-14-G(X)(N) uses different switches (which may or may not still be from Tokai though).

[aktham]

can somebody tell me if HRAP 3 will be wireless? I know it has a USB cable, but it is for charging it or it has to plugged in the whole time? Thanks

[DarkDragon]

hey V4MPIRO:
did you follow a guide on adding wires to the buttons on your t5 hori or you just did it yourself?
I want to do this to my t5 hori as well (add wiring and QDs) but im not sure how to go about it

[Darklightjg1]

Got a question: On the HRAP2 how is the Sanwa joystick attached to the surface in the first place? What method was used?

I'm asking this because not too long after I had it (early 2006), a friend of mine frantically jiggled the stick in desparation to do a DP and GLOOP! it fell down through the hole. :confused:
I don't have any stick building experience so at the time I just opened the thing and super glued the metal part back to the surface (making sure it was in the right postion and all). This method worked as a basic solution to the problem; so long as it didn't receive any extreme impact from the top (like it falling from a high place and landing on the balltop, or something hitting it hard from above), it wouldn't fall through and worked just fine.

Throughout the year I had about 7 random accidents with it where the stick would fall through and I would use the same method to fix it. The joystick received its final K.O., with an accidental people's elbow, about 3 days ago because now it's not even reponsive enough to be considered playable (diagonal movements are too iffy).

So, in attempt to save it yet again (damned thing is expensive), I figured I would remove all the old super glue from the surface with adhesive remover and try to attach a new joystick it the right way.

Main question(s) and point of the whole stupid story: What is the right way to attach a replacement joystick to the surface of an HRAP2? How would you guys replace the Sanwa joystick?

EDIT: I'm hoping this is not a stupid question that has been answered several times before, but despite the fact that the joystick just randomly fell through, I figured they still used a more reliable method to attch it than super glue.

[kurdt_the_goat]

hi guys,

i'm searching for HRAP special edition (seimitsu parts), i used to know there was no more in sale, but now it appears in the main page of www.hori.jp. i think it might be available again, but i don't know where to buy it. i readed somewhere that it was exclusively to buy in www.horistore.com. is that true? and if it's true, how the fuck can i buy in a japanese page without dying trying? thanks in advance for the help.

The page with their joysticks is this one:
http://www.horistore.com/shop/left_search.php?category=2
But they only have RAP1 in stock, the ones with red text are all out of stock :(

Do any of you guys use the Super Joy Box 5 adapter for using a RAP on a PC? It's got some good reviews at Play Asia but i know you guys would notice lag better than most :)

[Coryoon]

Same question here, what's the best PS2 / PC adapter available on Play-Asia ? Thanks

[kurdt_the_goat]

I dont actually have a RAP around yet, so i'm just trying to get my head around this button swap thing (real newb i'm afraid) before i commit to it!

But i'm confused atm because of these two pics:

http://www.australian-postcodes.com/hrap-sanwa-mod.jpg

The diagram makes it look like you would remove the quick disconnect, swap buttons, then reconnect the quick disconnect to the new button.
But then i saw the photo - that to my untrained eye looks like it has larger quick disconnects rather than the original ones. I must be seeing something wrong so can someone please explain it to me? What is the 'Connector prong thing' in the diagram and does anything connect to that if you're going to use Sanwa's instead?

[pherai]

Does anyone have a template for artwork? The link is dead on the first page and search didn't bring up anything.

[kurdt_the_goat]

The link still works, it's just in the old SRK format
This one's correct
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=107975

[P. Gorath]

are there any threads on modding the hori fighting stick?

[BasicBlink]

so is it really possible to put in a semitsu stick in HRAP ver. 2

[Superking]

Updated HRAP3 info, thanks early HRAP3 buyers. :tup:

[MarkMan]

New Hori HRAP accessories lol


http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_pad_annai/index.html

http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_seet_annai/index.html

[Dummy Account]

From what I've seen only PS-14-K, PS-14-P and PS-14-D(N) feature the same switch as Hori's buttons, PS-14-G(X)(N) uses different switches (which may or may not still be from Tokai though).

In that case is buying PS-14-K's to replace the stock Hori's even worth it? I was planning on doing that but this kinda has me stopped in my tracks.

[Mayhem]

In that case is buying PS-14-K's to replace the stock Hori's even worth it? I was planning on doing that but this kinda has me stopped in my tracks.
Probably not worth it for performance, but they do look good! Could always replace the switches with Sanwa's like I did.

[Kenjam]

I got my HRAP3 today. 2 days earlier than expected. Mine works fine on the pc with MAME. i was playin all my games fine with it. I used the ps3 sixaxis drivers and it worked no problem. Computer even recognized it as a Hori Real Arcade Pro as soon as I plugged it in. If somebody could tell me how to upload a few screens i'll do that.

EDIT:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2269/horirecogdd4.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2748/horithingoc5.jpg

[Dummy Account]

Probably not worth it for performance, but they do look good! Could always replace the switches with Sanwa's like I did.
Damn, thing is I like that little bit of resistance from the Seimitsus(grew up playing on Happ but like Seimitsu buttons better) and not the breath-on-them-and-they're-pressed sensitivity from Sanwas.

I got my HRAP3 today. 2 days earlier than expected. Mine works fine on the pc with MAME. i was playin all my games fine with it. I used the ps3 sixaxis drivers and it worked no problem. Computer even recognized it as a Hori Real Arcade Pro as soon as I plugged it in. If somebody could tell me how to upload a few screens i'll do that.

EDIT:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2269/horirecogdd4.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2748/horithingoc5.jpg

The fuck?! What the hell is wrong with my computers? At least this is good news sorta. Gotta go back and try this again.

[Kayin]

New Hori HRAP accessories lol


http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_pad_annai/index.html

http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_seet_annai/index.html

Smexy, any import shops gonna have this in stock?

[Dummy Account]

Ok, guess I was wrong. Once you plug in the HRAP 3 (after installing the SIXAXIS drivers of course) holding down the home button makes the stick recognized by windows. I might be wrong but I don't think the drivers may even be necessary.

[xghostsniperx]

Hey guys--I have a US Tekken 5 Hori stick. I want to use it on my Saturn and Dreamcast. I just had a couple questions:

1. Generally, with controller converters, is there almost zero lag when playing? Obviously, for fighting games and shooters you need a quick, responsive controller when playing. I saw there was a Dreamcast converter that supposedly has no lag, I'll probably buy that. So can anyone confirm there is no lag on the Dreamcast converters?

Have any of you tried any Saturn converters?

[Nyawu]

Let's assume the worse and those 3rd party ps2>usb adapters that will come out in a few weeks STILL doesn't work older, non-ps3 sticks. Is it possible to mod an analog button into a Hori RAP2 so that it will work with the sony ps2>usb addapters?

Or does the RAP's board like... not even have an analog point to solder a button onto? (then is it possible to hackjob an extra ps2 pad into the wiring?) I'm a bit sad because I have a perfectly fine sanwa modded RAP2, but there's no way I can play with it right now on the upcoming VF5 and T5:DR, nor play 3s or ST unless I bring out my old, worn down, DRE-filled ps2. =(

[JackTenrac!]

...whereabouts do you get PS to DC converters anyhow?

- I use my T5 HORI with Winkawaks/MAME and there is no lag. No lag. None. Pretty hard to play SF with a square gate though. Scrub needs a practice.

...that went well.

[Dummy Account]

...whereabouts do you get PS to DC converters anyhow?

http://innovation1.com/

Click on Sega then Dreamcast. It's the Dream Connection II converter.

[SNkNuT]

I dont actually have a RAP around yet, so i'm just trying to get my head around this button swap thing (real newb i'm afraid) before i commit to it!

But i'm confused atm because of these two pics:

The diagram makes it look like you would remove the quick disconnect, swap buttons, then reconnect the quick disconnect to the new button.
But then i saw the photo - that to my untrained eye looks like it has larger quick disconnects rather than the original ones. I must be seeing something wrong so can someone please explain it to me? What is the 'Connector prong thing' in the diagram and does anything connect to that if you're going to use Sanwa's instead?

the diagram is for if you have a hrap1 ver. B with the gray top. the photo looks like it has a seimitsu stick mounted so i would say its the original hrap1.

[Paik4Life]

Let's assume the worse and those 3rd party ps2>usb adapters that will come out in a few weeks STILL doesn't work older, non-ps3 sticks. Is it possible to mod an analog button into a Hori RAP2 so that it will work with the sony ps2>usb addapters?

Or does the RAP's board like... not even have an analog point to solder a button onto? (then is it possible to hackjob an extra ps2 pad into the wiring?) I'm a bit sad because I have a perfectly fine sanwa modded RAP2, but there's no way I can play with it right now on the upcoming VF5 and T5:DR, nor play 3s or ST unless I bring out my old, worn down, DRE-filled ps2. =(

Yes you can mod a stick with a dualshock or any other PCB that has the analog button. It works fine with all the PS to USB converters that I have.

~Paik

[Nyawu]

Ah, I see. Thanks! I'll see if there's a way too hook up the button for the rap2, if not, i'll just replace the pcb entirely with a dual shock one.

[Kayin]

http://innovation1.com/

Click on Sega then Dreamcast. It's the Dream Connection II converter.

I second this, a friend of mine has two of these and they're perfect.

[JackTenrac!]

Thanks, but here is the bad news...they're all sold out. I emailed the head guy and he stated this.

...that went well.

[isamu]

Ok, guess I was wrong. Once you plug in the HRAP 3 (after installing the SIXAXIS drivers of course) holding down the home button makes the stick recognized by windows. I might be wrong but I don't think the drivers may even be necessary.

That is FANTASTIC NEWS DA! Now if you could try it without loading the SIXAXIS drivers and tell me if it works I'd appreciate it :)

[EVM]

Guys, I am going to mod my HRAP3. What I am going to do is to remove all of the buttons except for 3. I assume the buttons have teeth that go into holes in the PCB? So all I need to do is remove the buttons and the stick and remaining 3 buttons will work fine? I plan on putting plugs in the empty holes.

I want to do this because I only play VF and its a 3 button game.

Thanks for your help.

[R | C]

Question for HRAP 2:

Does anyone know how to replace the wires connecting to the buttons? I bent one of the wires too many times while attempting to mod, and so it started to shread apart. I cut the wire and used a wire connector to twist them together. It works great now, but I may want to replace it later down the line.

[Barky]

requesting some pictures for upgrading US t5 arcade stick. All the pictures on himura amusements were posted on geocities and are now gone, the thread is over a year old so I thought I would have better luck posting here.

[Toodles]

Guys, I am going to mod my HRAP3. What I am going to do is to remove all of the buttons except for 3. I assume the buttons have teeth that go into holes in the PCB? So all I need to do is remove the buttons and the stick and remaining 3 buttons will work fine? I plan on putting plugs in the empty holes.

I want to do this because I only play VF and its a 3 button game.

Thanks for your help.
You can remove the buttons and put in plugs into the gaping holes. There are two wires with quick disconnects going to each button. For the ones you remove, either leave the QD on and wrap them individually in electrical tape, or cut the wire right were the disconnect ends (so the QD is gone, but the wire is as long as possible) and then wrap the bundle of wires in a small amount of electrical tape.

You want, no matter what, for none of the wires to touch the other wires, but leaving them long also means you can change your mind down the road and put new QD's on and put the buttons back.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Can anyone tell me what the default surface of the HRAP1 Version B looks like? It looks plain grey from the pics but i read elsewhere that it was the same kind of surface as a standard HRAP 2?

[kenmastersX]

Can anyone tell me what the default surface of the HRAP1 Version B looks like? It looks plain grey from the pics but i read elsewhere that it was the same kind of surface as a standard HRAP 2?

It's a similar surface to the HRAP 2, although I think it's a different color?

The last time I encountered it I just remembered it not smudging at all, and that was my only real concern. :D

[hellhound7]

Can anyone tell me what the default surface of the HRAP1 Version B looks like? It looks plain grey from the pics but i read elsewhere that it was the same kind of surface as a standard HRAP 2?

http://img160.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=00720_228746318_87973ad78f_122_260l o.jpg

[Rikidozan]

I am currently thinking about Modding an HRAP.

Can I just replace the standard buttons on my HRAP with 8 x Seimitsu PS-14-P (http://www.akihabarashop.com/catalog/seimitsu-PS14P.jpg) without any trouble, or is it much more complicated?

[ultracrazy1]

Can you guys confirm if this info is correct:
-HRAP1 works on PS2, and with adapter cables also on Xbox and Xbox 360
-HRAP1 works on PS3 when playing PSX and PS2 games (using a PS=>USB adapter) but does not work on PS3 games due to not having a "home" button.

And some questions:
-Where can I buy this: http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_xfps_360.htm ?
-Are there any alternatives?
-Are there any problems using HRAP1 on X360 due to it's lack of buttons?
-Can HRAP3 be used for any other consoles besides PS3?
-Are there any plans for any company to release an adapter that lets you use HRAP1 for PS3 games?

Thanks for your help =]

[deadfrog]

Can you guys confirm if this info is correct:
-HRAP1 works on PS2, Yes (haha) and with adapter cables also on Xbox and Xbox 360 I think so but I'm not sure.
-HRAP1 works on PS3 when playing PSX and PS2 games (using a PS=>USB adapter) but does not work on PS3 games due to not having a "home" button. False, see link below.

And some questions:
-Where can I buy this: http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_xfps_360.htm ? No clue.
-Are there any alternatives? No clue.
-Are there any problems using HRAP1 on X360 due to it's lack of buttons? Peanut butter and jelly.
-Can HRAP3 be used for any other consoles besides PS3? No, but it does function on PC.
-Are there any plans for any company to release an adapter that lets you use HRAP1 for PS3 games? Yes, see link below.

Thanks for your help =] You're welcome! {:-)

I added a few answers into your post.

Here is the link: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=125942

[Qugstav]

here's a pic of my current custom stick ;)
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o201/liner1979/Imagen001.jpg

That's a HFS2 is it not?

If you are still alive, you should make a thread about yer mod.. Or link to an existing, cuz I've been looking for prob a month now. And I know others have as well.

I have one o' thems, and I'd like to mod it.


More pics plz!

[Sticky]

whats the best way to remove a quick disconnect? I'm installing sanwas and am noob at at this. :sweat: Is there any tool to use?

[Whiff]

HRAP1 Version B:
- Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK
- Hori Buttons
- Turbo switches
- Uses quick disconnects for the buttons for moderate switching for Sanwa pushbuttons.
- No mirror top
- Button layout is Japanese console stick layout
- Button placement:
L1 [] /\ R1
L2 X O R2
- Work and are lag-free with these converters:
PS --> XBOX - Dragonbox - when choosing colors, HP and HK are switched.
PS --> Dreamcast - Innovation
PS --> PC - Wind Spirit
- HRAP1 version 2 is essentially the same as the regular HRAP, but according to some reports, the Hori buttons used are of even lesser quality, and the mounting area has been altered, so sticking a LS-32 isn't really possible anymore.


This looks like the Hori that I have. Sorry for sounding like a newbie but what exactly do you mean by LS-32? Also would you recommend screw-in sanwa buttons for this particular version?

[MastererBetty]

To mod the HRAP is a bolt remover required? or can i get by w/ a screwdriver

[Toodles]

a 1/2" bitdriver is very helpful, but I've gotten away with just a pair of needle nose pliers a few times. You need a screwdriver for the very bottom piece, but it won't help for getting the top control panel piece off.

[MastererBetty]

a 1/2" bitdriver is very helpful, but I've gotten away with just a pair of needle nose pliers a few times. You need a screwdriver for the very bottom piece, but it won't help for getting the top control panel piece off.

kool thnx

[dorick]

This looks like the Hori that I have. Sorry for sounding like a newbie but what exactly do you mean by LS-32? Also would you recommend screw-in sanwa buttons for this particular version?

The LS-32 is the seimitsu flagship stick.. some people prefer it over the sanwa JLFs.. actually i do have a question too. i too have a hrap 1B unfortunately.. when u guys say impossible.. issit really impossible? or just requires heavy modding? I might wanna put a seimitsu there sometime... thanks! :)

[Rikidozan]

Finally my Regular HRAP arrived and I am currently trying to adjust to using it.
I got some questions though:

- Is the green balltop screwed on?
- My stick is saying some optic noise, is this normal or does it need some grease?

Thanks in advance

[EveryFlowerFlow]

anyone know anything about the doa4 stick?

[Dummy Account]

anyone know anything about the doa4 stick?

What do you want to know? I've got one sitting around here at home.

[Iron Z]

can anyone give me a hand repacking my HRAP?

I am planning to sell it, and have all the original packaging but ill be dammed if i can work out how it is all supposed to fit together!

contents of packaging:

- 1 large box
- Two large "egg crate" pieces of cardboard (i think they go down the sides of the box)
- Two pieces of black foam (one square, one rectangular)
- One flat piece of cardboard with a hole in it
- One HRAP ;)

you see why i play Street Fighter and not Tetris! :confused:

/edit: figured it out. Anyone in the UK interested in a Hori Real Arcade Pro modded with full Sanwa buttons?

[suleman]

anyone know anything about the doa4 stick?

I've been using it for mame for the past four months - doesn't seem to have worn too much and I haven't had any problems with execution. Was plug and play on my computer.

[Rikidozan]

I am currently thinking about Modding my Regular HRAP with Sanwa OBSF-30RG, but I don't know if they will fit?

[Groundeyes]

Iron Z, what is the condition of the controller? I'm kinda interested, I've got one coming from playasia, another one could be useful. And throw me a quote.

[memecomplex]

I am currently thinking about Modding my Regular HRAP with Sanwa OBSF-30RG, but I don't know if they will fit?

RGs will fit fine.

[dorick]

Hey guys i just modded my HRAP V1B, and i got OBSN-30 sanwa screw ins, according to most ppl on this forum they fit fine, however it was hell trying to get the buttons in, after the first two there would be hardly any space, after struggling for an hour i got them all in, but its hell.. so anyone dat wants to mod ur hrap1b, get snap ins instead.. much easier..

[eschool]

ya i had to sand the screws down a little bit on my 1b

[JAMMAR]

Is the Wind Spirit PS -> PC converter still the best converter to use? I can't seem to find this thing anywhere.

[vane505]

Ihave a HRAP Sp. ED. and I had it for about 7-8 months. Some time ago when I was playing, the R1-button just stopped working! My friend said that it was probably dirt behind the button.

I'm just wondering if it's safe to open and clean up the dirt behind the buttons? Could there be something else wrong? I have never opened or modded a stick before and to send it in from Sweden would just be a pain. Appreciate your help!

[ultracrazy1]

Has HRAP1 gone out of production? Where can I still get one from?

[Cowdisease]

Ihave a HRAP Sp. ED. and I had it for about 7-8 months. Some time ago when I was playing, the R1-button just stopped working! My friend said that it was probably dirt behind the button.

I'm just wondering if it's safe to open and clean up the dirt behind the buttons? Could there be something else wrong? I have never opened or modded a stick before and to send it in from Sweden would just be a pain. Appreciate your help!It should be safe to open up your HRAP. Most people do it to swap out the stock Hori buttons with Sanwas, and I doubt the HRAP SE will have a different construction to regular HRAPs (aside from the default Sanwa buttons).

Chances are that the quick disconnect that connects the R1 button to the controller's PCB became loose. Open up your joystick and reattach the quick disconnect--that should solve your R1 button problem.

[MarkMan]

Ihave a HRAP Sp. ED. and I had it for about 7-8 months. Some time ago when I was playing, the R1-button just stopped working! My friend said that it was probably dirt behind the button.

I'm just wondering if it's safe to open and clean up the dirt behind the buttons? Could there be something else wrong? I have never opened or modded a stick before and to send it in from Sweden would just be a pain. Appreciate your help!

Yea I think it might be a quick disconnect issue... and if you ever want to sell it, let me know! I still want it!

[vane505]

You saved my stick. Thank you :lovin:.

Markman
Sorry it's all working now so I'll keep it. Will keep you in mind if I for some reason want to sell it :angel:.

[r-ch1e]

can someone tell if it is possible to replace the Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y in the HRAP2 with a Seimitsu LS-40-01? i've read the HRAP2 modding thread which deals with a LS-32. i just want to know if this is possible or if it's been done already. and just on the side, is there a difference in performance (in-8-way) between a LS-32 and a LS-40 or do they feel exactly the same?

[hwotk]

New Hori HRAP accessories lol


http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_pad_annai/index.html

http://www.hori.jp/products/ps2/controller/pro_seet_annai/index.html


hi there,

is there a way i can get those for my hrap2 ?? :)
store or smth ?

[AlPachinko]

What converter can i use to plug my sweet sweet HRAP1 into PS3 to play VF5 and DR and PS1/PS2 games?

Thanks in advance!

[JubeiNinja69]

I'm planning to do a full seimitisu mod on my hrap2 and was wondering does screw-in seimitsu buttons work? i heard snap ins were recommended or was it just for sanwa buttons? can i use any seimitisu balltop on my LS-32-01? also for the start and select buttons what seimitisu buttons can i use for them?

thanks.

[phillai]

Does anyone know what's new with this PS3 HORI Real Arcade Pro Stick 3 SA that's out in June?

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zl-49-en-70-1xji.html

http://www.hori.jp/products/ps3/controller/realarc_pro3_sa/index.html

Thanks to all replies in advance!

[MarkMan]

http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/hori-real-arcade-pro-3-sa-ps3/

[Rikidozan]

Second newbie question coming up. What restrictor does a Regular HRAP ship with a square restrictor or an octagonal?

Thanks in advance

[MarkMan]

Square gate, by default...

[AlPachinko]

HRAP3SA can be set to digital... so it'll play ps2 games right?

[Rikidozan]

Seimitsu LB-49 (large) will this fit unto my Regular HRAP - the joystick is the default one?

[combo750]

I just brought a HRAP1 the one without the mirror top and i wanted to know what Seimitsu stick to use. thanks.

[asianxcore]

is it possible to switch out the artwork for the US T5 stick? is it relatively easy?

[123jca987]

i have HRAP 1 and was considering the upgrade to the sanwa buttons with the longer microswitch for durability<>however my HRAP's are built into desksopening them is a pain anyone know if the clearance inside can accomadate these longer microswitches,you can see them at akihabara.com>>thanks for any advice

[Toodles]

is it possible to switch out the artwork for the US T5 stick? is it relatively easy?

Yes. No.

[sergio.]

My Short and Fierce buttons don't respond about one tenth of the time I press them, does this sound like a button problem, or a pcb problem to you guys?

Edit: On a T5

[shoo]

Yes. No.

dammit >,<

[asianxcore]

Yes. No.

ah, thanks.

I'm getting the T5 bundle out of a local trade next week. Guess I'll just stick with the original artwork.

[geneijin]

Hey, I have a HRAP1 vB and my mounting area looks like this:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1585/image015qe8.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015qe8.jpg)

And this is what it would look like with a sanwa stick:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3066/image016le5.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image016le5.jpg)

I heard its difficult to install other joysticks on my kind of HRAP. How would I install a LS-32-01 on it? Thanks guys.

[combo750]

Hey, I have a HRAP1 vB and my mounting area looks like this:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1585/image015qe8.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015qe8.jpg)

And this is what it would look like with a sanwa stick:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3066/image016le5.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image016le5.jpg)

I heard its difficult to install other joysticks on my kind of HRAP. How would I install a LS-32-01 on it? Thanks guys.

I've been asking the same question but i got no response.

[Rikidozan]

Regular HRAP -
(Wire color) = (Button)
Red = L2
Green = L1
Brown = Cross
Yellow = Square
Gray = Circle
Blue = Triangle
Orange = R2
Purple = R1
White = Start
Black = Select

Sorry if this has already been posted, but I just dismembered my Regular HRAP and put it back together, I thought it would be smart to note the Wire Colors / Buttons.

[Superking]

You can't install a LS-32-01 in the HRAP1B, the mounting area was altered too much for the mod. Or something like that, it should be in the first post of this thread.

Do people even check out the first post in this thread? Not that I update it anymore.

[Arkayne17]

The Hrap 3 does still work with with PS2 right?

I would Imagine it would.. but I wanna be certain before I contemplate getting one.

[shoo]

The Hrap 3 does still work with with PS2 right?

I would Imagine it would.. but I wanna be certain before I contemplate getting one.


umm no?
why would you imagine it would?

[shoo]

also..
are there any FS3 mods yet?

[eruditemode]

hello good sirs. I just bought a HRAP 3 and was a bit disappointed it was not recognized by my PS2 software, though I realized that it clearly states this on the box. I would've jumped out the window but I decided to use it for tekken dr, and it works fine.

quick question:

I would like to buy a HRAP 2 (white body, red buttons) and use it on my PS3, to play PS2 hyper anniversary. Will this work if I buy a proper convertor for PS2 controllers -> USB and then hook it up to my ps3?

When using the convertors, is there any lag time when pushing buttons?

2nd question: I have just heard that there is a ps3 version of sf2 coming out in HD. Will this be turbo or hyper anniversary?

thank you.

[Groundeyes]

Can anyone tell me if stick mounting area on a HRAP3 can support a LS-32 stick?

[shoo]

I would like to buy a HRAP 2 (white body, red buttons) and use it on my PS3, to play PS2 hyper anniversary. Will this work if I buy a proper convertor for PS2 controllers -> USB and then hook it up to my ps3?

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10085642&catid=&test%5Fcookie=1

[Rikidozan]

@shoo
Unfortunately the ASiD converter suffers from the same problem as the Logic3 PS915 converter. If you hold LEFT directional input on the ASiD convert for more than 7 seconds all directional commands drop, until you release it.

[shoo]

0_0

dammit

no guile for me ^_^

[shin_ryu]

for the regular HRAP...i want to change the buttons on my buttons on my HRAP 1 but i dont know which sanwa buttons do i buy...do i buy the snap-in sanwa buttons or screw-in sanwa buttons...or does it not make a difference?
i need help with choosing the buttons because i dont know which buttons to pick

[TingBoy]

for the regular HRAP...i want to change the buttons on my buttons on my HRAP 1 but i dont know which sanwa buttons do i buy...do i buy the snap-in sanwa buttons or screw-in sanwa buttons...or does it not make a difference?
i need help with choosing the buttons because i dont know which buttons to pick

They should both fit. The only stick that has problems with screw-in buttons is the HRAP2.

[shin_ryu]

lol thank you again tingboy

[TingBoy]

lol thank you again tingboy

Heh no problem

[Groundeyes]

May I suggest that Kyoji updates the first post and add info on the HRAP3 and 3SA. So I and maybe others don't have to dig through the forums for an hour to find out that the HRAP3 doesn't support a ls-32! >_<

[Superking]

May I suggest that Kyoji updates the first post and add info on the HRAP3 and 3SA. So I and maybe others don't have to dig through the forums for an hour to find out that the HRAP3 doesn't support a ls-32! >_<

I haven't been keeping up, but the HRAP3 doesn't support the LS-32 due to the altered mounting area?

And can I have links to the new HRAP3 SA? I remember seeing that it went with a six button rather than eight button layout. The two most right buttons are plugged up.

And I still have to do more trials on the ASID converter. lol

[Groundeyes]

http://www.hori.jp/products/ps3/controller/realarc_pro3_sa/index.html

And yeah the mounting area on the HRAP3 is more or less... actually I think it is the same as the HRAP1v2. I saw a picture of it and thats what it seemed like to me. Bummer considering the HRAP3 is the second best design hori has come up with, love to mod it with a ls-32.

Hopefully the 3SA will have an ls-32 friendly mounting area. Does anyone know if the HRAP1SA had an ls-32 mounting area? Although if there is going to be 3SE then I guess ls-32 enthusiasts could wait?

Hori I'm disappointed either way :sad:

[Superking]

updated

[randumbcat]

I haven't seen anyone mention the X-Joybox converter

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-gm-49-en-70-1fo.html

Does it work with the US T5 Hori?

I can't seem to find the magic box or dragon box adapters.

[dublo7]

anyone know where i can get a hori stick in toronto or pacific mall? i'm in town 4 a cpl of days and figure next week it'll be easier padding my stick collection up there than ordering from play-asia....:sweat:

[TrancëJay]

Sorry about the noob question, but what is the difference about these versions:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-5w3.html
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-4ra.html

[comoesa]

^the stick



The first one uses sanwa which is one of the best stick out there. The second one uses a cheaper less durable sanwa clone stick. Th buttons are the same...

[urth]

Sorry about the noob question, but what is the difference about these versions:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-5w3.html
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-4ra.html

The top one is larger than the second one. First one uses a sanwa JLF-TP-8K which is an awesome stick and hori buttons. The Second one uses hori stick and buttons. Pretty much the second one is a budget stick, while the first one has a real arcade stick. For the first one If you want a full real arcade stick all you have to do is buy 8 Sanwa OBSF-30 or Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons and swap em out with the hori buttons. Easy mod since it uses quick disconnects.

[Senkei33]

anyone know were u can get buttons now since all shops at the front page seem dead...i need sanwa buttons for my HRAP ver b

[urth]

anyone know were u can get buttons now since all shops at the front page seem dead...i need sanwa buttons for my HRAP ver b

I got my buttons for my hrap2 at www.lizardlick.com

[Segatashiro]

Anyone knows a site where can i get a Hori Real Arcade Pro 1/2?
I wanted to buy it from here:
http://high-scoreonline.com/store/
but their out of stock><
any clue if their going to restock?
I really don't wanna buy it from ebay if theres no other choice):
and theres still something i don't understand, I read the first page but i didn't say whats better only the difference between them
if i have the opportunity to get a HRAP1 or HRAP2
which one would be a better choice to buy?
Or is there really no difference between them except when you modify them?
i just might get the first version from a known net shop or should i wait and try to find the second version or get it from ebay...
thanks

[Makoto Scrub]

Anyone here know the size for stick art that can be placed on a Namco stick?

[doragonkoroshi]

ok, my hrap's circuit board is fried. can i replace it with a dualshock 2 one?

[shoo]

of course you can ^^^

[doragonkoroshi]

YAY!
thanks, bra!

[Toodles]

ok, my hrap's circuit board is fried. can i replace it with a dualshock 2 one?
Well, you can, but it's difficult. I dont think anyone's written a guide for it yet. It can be done, but you'd have to figure it out yourself.

Now a DualShock 1, that's easy. The analog buttons on the DS2 make it tricky.

[doragonkoroshi]

Alright, I'll try the DS1 then, though I do have some busted DS2s that I'd rather use, I'm pretty inexperienced at this and the easier the better. Is there anywhere I can get a quick explanation? I just need to know where to plug the wires from the buttons into the circuit board really, right? Oh, and I don't need turbo if that's harder or impossible to implement.

[Toodles]

Open up the pad you're going to use, and read through the 'padhacking' thread. Im sure you'll find the mapping you're looking for in there.

[shin_ryu]

Anyone knows a site where can i get a Hori Real Arcade Pro 1/2?


i bought mine from www.videogamecentral.com
...the only thing i thought was weird is that i bought and paid for a real arcade 1 yet they sent me a real arcade 2 for the same price

[Superking]

I updated the first post to address some of the concerns brought up like where to buy parts.

[Treatment X]

I know peeps here are Hori fans

but I'm used to American style sticks, so I'm lookin at the MAS

The PS2/DC MAS stick, compatible with PS2-->PS3 converter lag free? I'm a MVC2-er, i need that timing tight. Any opinions is appreciated before I place an order

[randumbcat]

FYI: I received my x-joybox and using the ds1 or 2 you have to press the buttons pretty firmly to have it register. i don't deem it usable HOWEVER, when using the my T5 arcade stick it works perfectly. anyone else test this adapter with other sticks?

[Phix_uk]

Ok heres the thing i have a HRAP 1 all sanwa but i want a japanese style layout like on the HRAp 2/3 has any one tried replacing the top panel on the stick to do the same or inset artwork ???
Any help is appreciated :wgrin:
Phix

[Superking]

Ok heres the thing i have a HRAP 1 all sanwa but i want a japanese style layout like on the HRAp 2/3 has any one tried replacing the top panel on the stick to do the same or inset artwork ???
Any help is appreciated :wgrin:
Phix

The HRAP1 is a Japanese style layout, it's the old 2P side layout on single candy cab panels.

However, since most, if not all candy cab set ups are multi-cab, the 1P side layout has become the default layout.

[TingBoy]

Ok heres the thing i have a HRAP 1 all sanwa but i want a japanese style layout like on the HRAp 2/3 has any one tried replacing the top panel on the stick to do the same or inset artwork ???
Any help is appreciated :wgrin:
Phix

People have inserted their own artwork on their HRAP1's, 2's, and 3's. If you search around the forums, you'll find out how and on what type of material.

[Groundeyes]

I think that when Phix_uk said "japanese style layout" he meant japanese arcade layout used in HRAP2and3 in contrast to the console layout used in HRAP1, you know how the arcade layout has a more distinct curve cause of the last 4 buttons. And yeah changing the top panel to change the layout should be pretty straight forward there's bound a thread with out here that explains it.

[Phix_uk]

lol picky people in here i play on vs city cabs and megalo's and they all have that same layout so thats what i would prefer as its much easier on the hands ..
As for a thread to change the actual top ive yet to find one :sad: HELP ME PEOPLE
Phix

[TingBoy]

lol picky people in here i play on vs city cabs and megalo's and they all have that same layout so thats what i would prefer as its much easier on the hands ..
As for a thread to change the actual top ive yet to find one :sad: HELP ME PEOPLE
Phix

I would assume that changing the top would be like adding your own artwork to your stick. Print the artwork on good paper, then put lexan on top (sorry, I don't know how thick). When it comes down to cutting the materials to fit the stick, use an HRAP2/3 template instead of an HRAP1. From what I've seen so far from pictures of the innards of an HRAP1, I don't see anything that would prevent you from doing this.

[Phix_uk]

I would assume that changing the top would be like adding your own artwork to your stick. Print the artwork on good paper, then put lexan on top (sorry, I don't know how thick). When it comes down to cutting the materials to fit the stick, use an HRAP2/3 template instead of an HRAP1. From what I've seen so far from pictures of the innards of an HRAP1, I don't see anything that would prevent you from doing this.
So lexan is the answer it seems im gonna have to look into that then finally i might be comfortable thanks Tingboy

[Taiki]

The HRAP1 is a Japanese style layout, it's the old 2P side layout on single candy cab panels.

However, since most, if not all candy cab set ups are multi-cab, the 1P side layout has become the default layout.

The HRAP1 is very specifically the Hori's NeoGeo stick layout, doubled up.

But yes, it does more resemble the 2p side of japanese cabs.

[urth]

Phix, did you get my PM?

[geneijin]

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image015qe8.jpg

Regarding the mounting plate of the HRAP1vB, what screw size fits into the holes in each corner of the plate? I already know the two holes in the middle is for the JFL stick.

[Groundeyes]

Hey, so since the the HRAP3-SA is coming out this month I call upon any one who gets the controller to post a pic of the guts and mounting area of the HRAP3-SA or tell us what the mounting area of the controller is like.

[MarkMan]

Modded my HRAP3 today... I'm pretty pleased with the stick (Note: I'm primarily a Tekken player)...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/248/524124986_d78d6732f6.jpg

[MaybeMemories]

http://images.marketworks.com/hi/71/71296/ps3_hori_arcade_fight_stick.jpg
what stick is this? why is it cheap? no good?

[R-Chie]

Modded my HRAP3 today... I'm pretty pleased with the stick (Note: I'm primarily a Tekken player)...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/248/524124986_d78d6732f6.jpg

very nice!:tup: im guessing the buttons are seimitsu's?

[timekillr]

I'm guessing modding a HRAP3 with Sanwa buttons is dead easy? As in just plugging out the quick disconnects, taking the button out and putting the new buttons in and replugging the quick disconnects?

I didn't wanna get a SA since it looks like it's just a HRAP3 with sanwa buttons - I already have a bunch of sanwa buttons from a while back, and 50$ more just for that is a bit expensive :(

Same thing with the restrictor plate - since it's a JLF stick I should easily be able to switch to an octogonal or circle plate?

[urth]

octagon plate yes, circle no. JLF don't have circle gates.

http://images.marketworks.com/hi/71/71296/ps3_hori_arcade_fight_stick.jpg
what stick is this? why is it cheap? no good?

thats the Hori FS3 for ps3. Its cheap cuz it uses all hori parts, no sanwa/seimitsu stuff in there.

[timekillr]

octagon plate yes, circle no. JLF don't have circle gates.


Right. I'm kinda new to that thing :)

What about the buttons? Easily swappable stuff?

Yes buttons are easily swappable, you just unplug the quick disconnects and plug them into the new buttons.

Sweet thanks!

[urth]

Yes buttons are easily swappable, you just unplug the quick disconnects and plug them into the new buttons.

[jabhadouken]

Here's a really silly question:

Seeing as HRAP1s&2s are a-way-a-da-dodo (extinct, lol), is there going to be a FORWARDS compatible converter (i.e. to use 3s on a PS2)?

Sad, silly question, yes, but dammit - those 3s look sweet, are cheap[er], and would definitely serve those of us who don't have a 1 or 2 and are not inclined to get a 600+ bones sys 'til it actually has [at least] a dozen viable games!

[TingBoy]

Here's a really silly question:

Seeing as HRAP1s&2s are a-way-a-da-dodo (extinct, lol), is there going to be a FORWARDS compatible converter (i.e. to use 3s on a PS2)?

Sad, silly question, yes, but dammit - those 3s look sweet, are cheap[er], and would definitely serve those of us who don't have a 1 or 2 and are not inclined to get a 600+ bones sys 'til it actually has [at least] a dozen viable games!

http://shop.ebay.com/__Video-Game-Accessories_real-arcade-pro_W0QQ_nkwZrealQ20arcadeQ20proQQ_fxdZ1

There's still many on ebay going around $92 (cheapest I can find) and they're all brand new, so I'd buy one before they're all gone.

[ultracrazy1]

<News “of real arcade Pro.2” resale decision>
Presently, without stock we have become, resale decided concerning “real arcade Pro.2”. (Sale is around September schedule.)Thank you in the many demand 洵.

Concerning the sale time of details, and the acceptance start time of reservation, future this being similar we announce.
Furthermore, there is no modification of the product specification which accompanies resale.

@_@

sweet!

[ROCKMAN]

could someone tell me if there is any problems putting in the sanwa buttons that are,the screw in type..basically, i would like to know if the hrap 2 have tabs like the tekken 5 stick or is it a perfect circle.meaning i don't have to dremmel the damn things again..like i did for my t5 usa version mod. thanks to anyone.

[Yeton]

^
Sanwa buttons fit into the HRAP1/2/3 no probs, BUT there are problems fitting a screw in button to the X button due to it's close proximity to the joystick mounting bracket (I think it's mentioned lots of times earlier in this thread, best to go trawl through it for more info). You're best off getting a snap-in button for X instead, although there are a couple of other alternatives ... have a browse!

[TingBoy]

could someone tell me if there is any problems putting in the sanwa buttons that are,the screw in type..basically, i would like to know if the hrap 2 have tabs like the tekken 5 stick or is it a perfect circle.meaning i don't have to dremmel the damn things again..like i did for my t5 usa version mod. thanks to anyone.

HRAP1's have no problems with screw-ins of any sort

HRAP2 and 3's - the X button doesn't have enough space for a Sanwa nut. Seimitsu screw-ins work just fine. If you really want all Sanwa, you can either sand down the nut til it fits or you can replace the nut from the Sanwa screw-in with a nut from a Seimitsu screw-in.

[Paik4Life]

Just an FYI, HRAP3 SA got pushed back until September 20, 2007.

~Paik

[hellhound7]

Just an FYI, HRAP3 SA got pushed back until September 20, 2007.

~Paik

Sup Paik, Do you know if the hrap3 sa will have 16 quick disconnects or 20, it having stock button plugs and all? sorry if it's been mentioned!

[Paik4Life]

I have absolutely no clue.

~Paik

[hellhound7]

Gotcha, thanks!

[A.C]

random question: is the HRAP top plate aluminium or some other alloy?

[Evil Morrigan]

My Dog chewed up the cord that plugs into the PS2, and it does not work anymore.

Where can I go to buy a new cord for it?

[P. Gorath]

Is there a link for modding the tekken 4 stick?

[Xorcist]

Quick Question about the HRAP3, how does it register when used on a PC? Does it come up as a HID keyboard? or a Gamepad? Also how is the lag time if any when used on a PC?