Hori Real Arcade Pro FAQ for all versions

[vieja escuela]

Hori users please help me!

I'm looking for import stores in Los Angeles or Las Vegas that sell the Hrap3.

Any info would be welcome.

[Kyosborone]

Pc see the hrap3 like a hrap3 (on control panel); the feeling is the same of the hrap2 + joy box

[Blueknight78c]

Alright, I have a very simple noob question here that has most likely been answered somewhere else (a million times), but I honestly can't find it:

So I'm making my first custom stick out of a T5. I have 8 wires coming off the board for the stick (2 for each switch) and my stick's wire harness has 5 wires (Sanwa JLF) I know which wires do what, but where/how should I connect the ground wire?

Edit: Ah, never mind, I got it.:looney:

[Xorcist]

Modded my HRAP3 today... I'm pretty pleased with the stick (Note: I'm primarily a Tekken player)...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/248/524124986_d78d6732f6.jpg

Nice MOD. Where's you pickup the ball top and buttons from. Those are Seimitsu buttons right. (did you use the snap in or screw variety?)

[ragnarok3X]

i just got a quick question is the hrap 3 able to be played on ps2?

[shin_ryu]

no hrap 3 is for ps3

[geneijin]

[img=http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2994/imagehorisv0.th.jpg] (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagehorisv0.jpg)
I got air bubbles forming on the cling film on the top panel my hrap1b. How would I get rid of them and make them flat again?

[Mayhem]

I got air bubbles forming on the cling film on the top panel my hrap1b. How would I get rid of them and make them flat again?
You don't; the protective film isn't meant to be permanent. Just remove it already...

[vizard]

I have been having problems with my hrap2. when i play the R1 button would go on by itself without me pressing it and now the start button is acting up.I opened it up and everything looks fine but when you move the wires a certain way it stops but then it acts up again. can anyone help me.

[JubeiNinja69]

I have been having problems with my hrap2. when i play the R1 button would go on by itself without me pressing it and now the start button is acting up.I opened it up and everything looks fine but when you move the wires a certain way it stops but then it acts up again. can anyone help me.

make sure any unused wire is not making contact with the microswitches of the other buttons.


here's my hrap2 full seimitsu mod:

i swapped case with a hrap1.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/jubeininja69/IMG_0010.jpg

[vizard]

make sure any unused wire is not making contact with the microswitches of the other buttons.


here's my hrap2 full seimitsu mod:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/jubeininja69/IMG_0010.jpg

Thanks, i taped up the extra quick disconnects with black Electrical tape and it hasn't
act up since.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z129/shinigami750/hori2mod.jpg

[Cardinal_Sin]

Don't know if this has been asked before, but is Hori really re-releasing HRAP2's in September?

http://www.horistore.com/shop/left_search.php?category=2

I don't read Japanese, but babelfish translation has the HRAP2 listed as being out of stock, but due back in September (anything else that is out of stock and not returning is listed as such). Or is that just a generic placeholder listing they haven't bothered to update?

Hopefully some vendors around here will be ordering from them again when the time comes?

[Xorcist]

Is it possible to swap a Sanwa JLW joystick into the HRAP3? or would that require some heavy modding? I noticed the JLF in my HRAP3 has a short PCB connection cable. And if it's not an easy mod, are there any circular restrictors for the JLF?

[A.C]

Don't know if this has been asked before, but is Hori really re-releasing HRAP2's in September?

Pretty sure you are looking at:

HRAP 3 Special Addition:
- For PlayStation 3 and PC
- USB wired
- 3m cable
- Will be released on September 2007
- Retails for 9,800円
- Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK
- Sanwa Pushbuttons: OBSF-30 / OBSF-24
- Uses quickdisconnects
- Turbo Button with three level settings: Slow, Normal, Fast
- PlayStation Button to bring up the XMB
- The HRAP has a switch that emulates at any given time either: the digital pad(default), Left analog, or right analog
- White/Blue colour scheme
- Button layout is Japanese arcade cabinet layout
- Button placement:
[] /\ R1
X O R2
- L1/L2 looked to be plugged up from all pictures shown.
- Pic:
http://www.hori.jp/products/ps3/cont.../images/04.jpg

this thread, page one, post one, line one

if you are talking about the two images above the HRAP:SA, notice the price. way too cheap to be an actual controller. most certainly they are replacement/component parts ;)

[Cardinal_Sin]

Pretty sure you are looking at:



this thread, page one, post one, line one

if you are talking about the two images above the HRAP:SA, notice the price. way too cheap to be an actual controller. most certainly they are replacement/component parts ;)

No, I was not looking at those. I know what those are.

Look lower, at the entry that's third from the bottom. It's the HRAP2, 8279 yen, and in the bottom left corner of that specific entry, below the picture, the kanji reads something about the 9th month (9月入荷予定です)。(someone confirmed for me that it says due in September).


Also, apparently that first one is a wrist pad so as to not damage your wrist (or more importantly, the stick's casing ;) )

[vizard]

No, I was not looking at those. I know what those are.

Look lower, at the entry that's third from the bottom. It's the HRAP2, 8279 yen, and in the bottom left corner of that specific entry, below the picture, the kanji reads something about the 9th month (9月入荷予定です)。(someone confirmed for me that it says due in September).


Also, apparently that first one is a wrist pad so as to not damage your wrist (or more importantly, the stick's casing ;) )

When i had google translate it into English it's said "It is September due in" But still I'm not sure what it means.

[A.C]

It's the HRAP2, 8279 yen, and in the bottom left corner of that specific entry, below the picture, the kanji reads something about the 9th month (9月入荷予定です)。(someone confirmed for me that it says due in September).

Doh. You're right. Google's*translated page (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.horistore.com%2Fshop% 2Fleft_search.php%3Fcategory%3D2&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8) does in deed say "It is September due in." Whoever spotted that has one keen eye. All I saw was the yyyy/mm/dd column :/

[JubeiNinja69]

here's my all sanwa hrap 1b:

i think white and red is sexy

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b202/jubeininja69/IMG_0013.jpg

[Kayin]

Did you repaint that? I coulda sworn HRAP1b had a black base.

[kliquey]

I'm thinking of buying a HRAP3. The only problem I have is that I don't have a PS3, so I'm mainly going to be gaming on my PC/MAME. I've read that it isn't PS2 compatible and I do have a ps2 with SF games somewhere that I can no longer find. My only problem with buying a HRAP3 is that it won't work on a PS2 if I do decide I want to use the stick on a PS2. Do you guys think I should purchase the HRAP3 for $99, or should I wait out to try to find a HRAP2?

[JubeiNinja69]

Did you repaint that? I coulda sworn HRAP1b had a black base.

i just swapped cases with the hrap2.

[Cheesey]

I don't understand the reasoning behind replacing the start/select buttons with Sanwa OBSF-24's. It's not as if the start/select stock buttons are unusable, as you don't press them nearly as much as the 30mm pushbuttons. But that's just my opinion.

[TingBoy]

I don't understand the reasoning behind replacing the start/select buttons with Sanwa OBSF-24's. It's not as if the start/select stock buttons are unusable, as you don't press them nearly as much as the 30mm pushbuttons. But that's just my opinion.

People usually change them out because...

A) they hate that bright yellow (I know I do)

or

B) aesthetics. Matching action and start/select buttons make your stick look oh so much better =)

[HP87]

I've got a Hori Fighting Stick EX for the xbox and the 'X' button is kinda not responding very well. I've tested it with XBCD and the other buttons work fine. XBCD shows that the 'X' button gives only a very faint responce when I press it. How should I open the stick to replace the button? I tried unscrewing the three screws at the base of the stick, but the base still refuses to open. It feels as if its stuck or something at the corner.

This is a picture of the stick I'm refering to:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-01-49-en-70-51n.html

[Yeton]

I don't understand the reasoning behind replacing the start/select buttons with Sanwa OBSF-24's. It's not as if the start/select stock buttons are unusable, as you don't press them nearly as much as the 30mm pushbuttons. But that's just my opinion.

Nah, you're right, there isn't much reason to change them. I only replaced them because yellow didn't match my colour scheme, and I hated the way the buttons sank below the top of the bezel when pressed. Yep, I really am that picky. :rofl:

[JubeiNinja69]

I don't understand the reasoning behind replacing the start/select buttons with Sanwa OBSF-24's. It's not as if the start/select stock buttons are unusable, as you don't press them nearly as much as the 30mm pushbuttons. But that's just my opinion.

i'm kinda a perfectionist. i like my stick to have all real parts. yes its the aesthetics. i chose yellow cause it looks nice. i think matching action buttons with the start/select is plain/dull.

[Cheesey]

Heh, fair enough. I would do it if it weren't for the fact that it's just another added cost above the stick over and above the:
- expensive shipping cost to UK from everywhere else in the world.
- customs duty
- VAT on imports
- cost of 6/8 buttons and/or hole plugs.

I wish I lived in the states sometimes.

[brightsons]

I'm thinking of buying a HRAP3. The only problem I have is that I don't have a PS3, so I'm mainly going to be gaming on my PC/MAME. I've read that it isn't PS2 compatible and I do have a ps2 with SF games somewhere that I can no longer find. My only problem with buying a HRAP3 is that it won't work on a PS2 if I do decide I want to use the stick on a PS2. Do you guys think I should purchase the HRAP3 for $99, or should I wait out to try to find a HRAP2?

Go with a HRAP2 and a pelican adapter.

tmove.com has it instock for $89.99 (http://www.tmove.net/index.php/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,254/category_id,4/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,30/). I just ordered my HRAP 2 from them last week and received it today. :wgrin:

[kliquey]

Go with a HRAP2 and a pelican adapter.

tmove.com has it instock for $89.99 (http://www.tmove.net/index.php/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,254/category_id,4/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,30/). I just ordered my HRAP 2 from them last week and received it today. :wgrin:

thanks for the site. for $110 shipped, i was willing to purchase it. I saw it on other sites for about $130-$150, and i didn't want to pay that much. i'm waiting for it to arrive in about a week, even better if sooner! now my next mission is to call all the ebgames around my area to see if they have that pelican converter, hopefully they do, cuz i don't feel like paying for s+h for that adapter :x

[magz]

Quick Question about the HRAP3, how does it register when used on a PC? Does it come up as a HID keyboard? or a Gamepad? Also how is the lag time if any when used on a PC?

I'd like to second Xorcist's question. I'm currently using a Radioshack adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2348187&cp=2032062&f=Taxonomy%2FRSK%2F2032062&categoryId=2032062&kwCatId=2032062&kw=ps2+usb&parentPage=search) with my HRAP2 and there's most definitely input lag when playing fighting games on my laptop.

I'm not sure if it's the adapter or the HRAP2 or both that is causing the lag problem. Does anyone have any insight into this issue?

If the problem is the HRAP2, would the HRAP3 be the proper solution?

If it's the adapter, which adapter would you recommend?

[shoo]

it is the adapter

get the pelican converter

[magz]

it is the adapter

get the pelican converter

Alright, I'll give that one a shot. It's this (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802566) one, right?

I've also heard that the driver could have some effect on performance. Should I not be using the Windows XP HID Compliant Game Controller drivers? Is there something else out there that is used for PC fighting games?

[Xorcist]

Just to add a little to the mix, I'm pretty sure any adapter is going give you some amount lag. For this exact reason I picked up a few USB specific sticks, the Saulabi Online, the Saulabi 4k, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro 3. Each of these sticks is WAY more responsive than their PS2 counter parts on just about every adapter I tested (and I tested quite a few).

Since this is a Hori thread, let me stick to the specifics of the HRAP3. It comes up as a native joystick device under Windows (no drivers needed), all the buttons (except for the turbo button) are available, and the stick itself can be switched between analog (PS3 left stick), digital pov (PS3 D-Pad), and z-axis rotation (PS3 right stick). Overall Hori did a great job with this one. Works flawlessly now that I swapped out that square gate for an octagonal one. :)

[magz]

Just to add a little to the mix, I'm pretty sure any adapter is going give you some amount lag. For this exact reason I picked up a few USB specific sticks, the Saulabi Online, the Saulabi 4k, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro 3. Each of these sticks is WAY more responsive than their PS2 counter parts on just about every adapter I tested (and I tested quite a few).

Since this is a Hori thread, let me stick to the specifics of the HRAP3. It comes up as a native joystick device under Windows (no drivers needed), all the buttons (except for the turbo button) are available, and the stick itself can be switched between analog (PS3 left stick), digital pov (PS3 D-Pad), and z-axis rotation (PS3 right stick). Overall Hori did a great job with this one. Works flawlessly now that I swapped out that square gate for an octagonal one. :)

Good to hear that it works perfectly for you. If trying a different adapter doesn't work, I'll probably be getting an HRAP3 myself.

Update: Good news. With the pellican adapter, I get flawless input (with Melty Blood ReAct). Thanks a lot for the recommendation, shoo.

[bafiaris13]

i dont think i should make an entirely new thread since there's already many of them about hraps and how to mod them..

so my questions is..how do i put an artwork on hrap 1 (cfj edition)..i opened it and the original art seems to be glued on the metal plate..is there a way to remove it without destroying the old art? or i must use another metal plate?

[kliquey]

Ok so my HRAP 2 should be coming in on tuesday of next week! I'm excited about it, but I have a few questions. I'm a total noob/scrub to joysticks. I have always been using gamepads and keyboard (for MAME). I'm gonna try to play on a stick from now on. So my question is, for a person like me should I replace the Hori buttons with Sanwa buttons or not? Will it make any difference to someone who's just starting out to play on a stick or no?

[JubeiNinja69]

you want to be good at a stick asap so replace those buttons even if you are starting out.

[magz]

Ok so my HRAP 2 should be coming in on tuesday of next week! I'm excited about it, but I have a few questions. I'm a total noob/scrub to joysticks. I have always been using gamepads and keyboard (for MAME). I'm gonna try to play on a stick from now on. So my question is, for a person like me should I replace the Hori buttons with Sanwa buttons or not? Will it make any difference to someone who's just starting out to play on a stick or no?

I'd have to agree. Hori buttons are trash compared to sanwa IMO. Very sensitive though, so it really depends on your playstyle.

[mrpanda666]

Anyone installed a Sanwa Flash on an HRAP2...i dont have a multimeter and would like to know to which pin i should solder the Sanwa Flash +3v wire to....any help would be much appreciated :D

[ACW-D]

What would be the best HRAP w/adaptor for an xbox?

[mrpanda666]

Anyone installed a Sanwa Flash on an HRAP2...i dont have a multimeter and would like to know to which pin i should solder the Sanwa Flash +3v wire to....any help would be much appreciated :D

Okay ppl....got it figured out...on the HRAP2 PCB you tap the +3v from the 4th pin (yellow wire)..hope this helps somebody out.

[kliquey]

I just got my HRAP2, but its damn hard to get the fireball/super arts down in 3s. is there any tips or advice any of you guys can give me to doing them better? or will i just get better at it as i keep on playing/practicing on the stick?

[vizard]

I just got my HRAP2, but its damn hard to get the fireball/super arts down in 3s. is there any tips or advice any of you guys can give me to doing them better? or will i just get better at it as i keep on playing/practicing on the stick?

A lot of practice.

[mr. newbie]

thanks ting

is there a guide for the us t5 stick with pics? the link of the front page works, but pics dont

[TingBoy]

i have a us t5 stick. can i just replace the ball? if so how do i do it?

is there a guide for this stick with pics? the link of the front page works, but pics dont

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132472

Look at step 7.

[Toodles]

What would be the best HRAP w/adaptor for an xbox?
All of the HRAP's (at least that I've seen) use the same chip for controlling. If you have a PSX->Xbox adapter that works with one HRAP, it should work the same with the others.

[FullMetalRoss]

So i'm pretty sure this is a common problem,

the cord on my hrap2 frayed, it came undone towards the base the the coper insulation is now showing. Thankfully the inner wires are fine but I don't want to risk it, I was wondering how people went about fixing this? I was thinking of trying to get some of that rubber fix stuff that sets like rubber but I don't even know if that would work. So any suggestions would be nice. It sucks this happened to my hrap 2 cause it never happened on my hrap 1 and I've had that for a long time now. Bah! Anyway thanks again for any help you can provide.

Edit: I think I'm gonna try and buy some heat shrink tubing and see if that fixs it up.

[GOLDN-NZ]

can the HRAP 3 work on a ps2?

do i need an adapter?

what about a HRAP 2 on a ps3?

thanks peeps

[TingBoy]

can the HRAP 3 work on a ps2?

do i need an adapter?

what about a HRAP 2 on a ps3?

thanks peeps

HRAP3s will not work on a PS2, but it will work on PS2 games played on a PS3. There is no such adapter that will help you out here.

As for the HRAP2, yes, it will work on a PS3 with the help of an adapter. Just goto your local gaming store and look for a Pelican PS2 to PS3 converter. They work flawlessly without any noticeable lag.

[P4RA]

HRAP3s will not work on a PS2, but it will work on PS2 games played on a PS3. There is no such adapter that will help you out here.

I thought only the VSHG is compatible with ps2 games played on ps3 and that the hrap3 isn't.

[erikstanton]

nah. hrap3 can play ps2 games on a ps3. the hori fighting stick 3 or whatever is the one that cant play ps2 games on a ps3, due to the fact that it lacks the 'PS' button, which you to press to turn on the controller/stick.

[TingBoy]

I thought only the VSHG is compatible with ps2 games played on ps3 and that the hrap3 isn't.

I thought they fixed this problem with an update. Well, I can't quite find anything to support my answer so far, so disregard what I said for now.

Edit: nvm, found a thread. 1.80 fixed it, though not flawless.

[P4RA]

thanks erikstanton & TingBoy

[FullMetalRoss]

In case anyone cares, the heat shrink tubing seems to be working just find. And it makes that area around the grommet stiffer so it probably won't fray again. If anyone else is having this problem I suggest you try this route before your stick is completely unusable.

[P4RA]

what was told earlier on this thread was right, i tested the hrap3 on ps3 with tekken3 and cvs2 and they worked flawless :wgrin:

[erikstanton]

what was told earlier on this thread was right, i tested the hrap3 on ps3 with tekken3 and cvs2 and they worked flawless :wgrin:

tell me if im correct about this, cause this is what happens to me.
When you play a playstation 1 game it already recognizes the controller, and you dont have to press the PS button.

when you play a playstation 2 games, thats when the controllers get restarted and you do have to press the button.

[mr. newbie]

ok so a tekken high grade will work for ps2 games if i get the newest update?

[erikstanton]

ok so a tekken high grade will work for ps2 games if i get the newest update?

if you mean virtua high grade, then it should. ive been reading around and i see that hrap got fixed, but vsgh got messed up, but this may not be true.

[P4RA]

tell me if im correct about this, cause this is what happens to me.
When you play a playstation 1 game it already recognizes the controller, and you dont have to press the PS button.

when you play a playstation 2 games, thats when the controllers get restarted and you do have to press the button.

I haven't noticed this with ps2 games, an explanation would be that my european ps3 has a BC that is programmed by software and not by a hardware chip as in the US and Japan.

[Jedi W.]

Is there a good adapter to go from PS2 -> X360 that will work with the HRAP?

--jedi\/\/.

[erikstanton]

Is there a good adapter to go from PS2 -> X360 that will work with the HRAP?

--jedi\/\/.


there is a thread made for adapters already.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132493
your answer lies in the first page, first post.

[Superking]

I updated the first post with details on the new Arcana Heart HRAP, but for some reason it uses the SC3 HRAP's button placement, I guess they want to Arcana players to play from the get go without having to reorder the buttons. w/e

For people who are curious, AH's button layout is:

ABC
D

So, its RAP's layout of:

[] /\ O
X

Makes sense, but it's still lame and gimmicky.

[Hanzo_Hasashi]

Hey! This (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=136524) HORI stick isnt in this thread:










Joking!

[Superking]

Hey! This (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=136524) HORI stick isnt in this thread:


Joking!

Yes but jokes aside, it wouldn't be in this thread regardless because this thread is only for the HRAP line. The Hori Fighting Sticks and other sticks of theirs are not included in this thread.

[raekw0n187]

I have a question.

I have the soul calibur 2 japenese stick Blue ball/blue art/blue buttons, the one shaped
lik the T5 hori.

I was wondering what sanwa buttons would be easiest to use to replace the old ones.

[mr. newbie]

is there an alternate t5 mod guide with pics? the link on the front page works, but pics are dead. i just wanted to ask again

[crackbone]

is there an alternate t5 mod guide with pics? the link on the front page works, but pics are dead. i just wanted to ask again

Same here. I had a couple of questions about the T5 stick as I picked one up to mod, but I've don't have a lot of joystick knowledge. I've read the OP a few times but the amount of stick variations is making me feel uneasy with buying new stick/buttons for it.

I guess the short version is: Can I treat it as though it's a HRAP if I'm replacing the stick/buttons, or is the faceplate/stick mounting bracket/button holes somehow different?

[TingBoy]

Same here. I had a couple of questions about the T5 stick as I picked one up to mod, but I've don't have a lot of joystick knowledge. I've read the OP a few times but the amount of stick variations is making me feel uneasy with buying new stick/buttons for it.

I guess the short version is: Can I treat it as though it's a HRAP if I'm replacing the stick/buttons, or is the faceplate/stick mounting bracket/button holes somehow different?

No. You'll need to get rid of some metal tabs that prevent Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons from fitting on the metal plate, you'll need to drill new holes for the joystick (I think), and you'll need to do a bit of soldering. A lot more work than an HRAP.

[A.C]

I guess the short version is: Can I treat it as though it's a HRAP?

The short answer: no
:)

If you do a forum search, you will find some pictures - although I don't think there is a step-by-step, visual tutorial. I posted a blog that has some pics - but its not comprehensive.

[crackbone]

The short answer: no
:)

If you do a forum search, you will find some pictures - although I don't think there is a step-by-step, visual tutorial. I posted a blog that has some pics - but its not comprehensive.

Thanks, found your blog. I think it gave me enough info.

[4r5]

The cord for my HRAP2 is cut. With a lot of tape and twisting, I can get it to work. But this is a crappy solution. Is it possible to replace the cord with one from a DualShock2, or a T5 stick? They both got that white bracket plug thingy on the pcb. Before I go play Frankenstein, I'd like to know if this would work.

[TingBoy]

The cord for my HRAP2 is cut. With a lot of tape and twisting, I can get it to work. But this is a crappy solution. Is it possible to replace the cord with one from a DualShock2, or a T5 stick? They both got that white bracket plug thingy on the pcb. Before I go play Frankenstein, I'd like to know if this would work.

You have pretty much 2 options that I can think of at the moment.

1) Replace the whole PCB and cord with a new PCB (yes, T5 works, not sure about DS2, but I know DS1s work)

Or, if the cord is anything like a Guitar Hero controller, you can

2) Cut off the section of cord with the cut, splice the wires (strip and twist matching ends together), then insulate with electrical tape.

[Random123456789]

Hey everyone, I'm about to go out and buy the T5 Arcade stick at GC for $30. The arcade stick itself is not bad, right? And if I wanted to get better buttons and whatnot, how much am I going to spend? Thanks a lot!:wgrin:

[ramza]

You have pretty much 2 options that I can think of at the moment.

1) Replace the whole PCB and cord with a new PCB (yes, T5 works, not sure about DS2, but I know DS1s work)

Or, if the cord is anything like a Guitar Hero controller, you can

2) Cut off the section of cord with the cut, splice the wires (strip and twist matching ends together), then insulate with electrical tape.

i'm pretty sure you can just unplug the cord wire from a t5 stick and simply plug it in into an hrap pcb. fairly simple process too, btw

[TingBoy]

i'm pretty sure you can just unplug the cord wire from a t5 stick and simply plug it in into an hrap pcb. fairly simple process too, btw

Oh and that. Just depends if he can find a spare t5 cord or if he wants to spend the extra money on another stick.

[crackbone]

Hey everyone, I'm about to go out and buy the T5 Arcade stick at GC for $30. The arcade stick itself is not bad, right? And if I wanted to get better buttons and whatnot, how much am I going to spend? Thanks a lot!:wgrin:

It really depends on what your tastes are. You might as well try it out of the box before buying new stuff. I couldn't stand the Hori stick - it felt way too loose for my tastes, but I like Happ competitions for reference. I've heard people who like Sanwas say the stick was a little loose for their tastes as well though..

If you want to replace the buttons, figure $2-$2.50 a button to be safe.

[Random123456789]

Yeah, I love the arcade stick so far! But I'll keep that in mind. Thank you very much!:sweat:

[Eckostyle]

Im about to go buy the VF5 stick or the EX2 stick for the 360. Is it possible to have a sony ps2 PCB put in it? Also, is the stick itself well built and good(I'm not a modder or any of that shit)? I'm just going to use it for playing 3S/HSF at home.

[MaybeMemories]

what differences are we looking at hrap3 and hrap3 sa, besides the buttons since i can mod them myself on the hrap3 ?

[Toodles]

what differences are we looking at hrap3 and hrap3 sa, besides the buttons since i can mod them myself on the hrap3 ?
White plastic casing.

[caleb1883]

Im about to go buy the VF5 stick or the EX2 stick for the 360. Is it possible to have a sony ps2 PCB put in it? Also, is the stick itself well built and good(I'm not a modder or any of that shit)? I'm just going to use it for playing 3S/HSF at home.

I'm confused, are you wanting to buy a 360 stick to make it work for PS2, or have the option of having it work for both? If you just want a PS2 stick, then there are much, much better options than the VF5.

[Toodles]

I'm confused, are you wanting to buy a 360 stick to make it work for PS2, or have the option of having it work for both? If you just want a PS2 stick, then there are much, much better options than the VF5.

And trying to mod a stick to include both a xbox360 pcb and any other PCB is DAMN hard if you aren't an electronics guru already.

[MaybeMemories]

White plastic casing.

il take that as no differences then? :)

[Eckostyle]

I'm confused, are you wanting to buy a 360 stick to make it work for PS2, or have the option of having it work for both? If you just want a PS2 stick, then there are much, much better options than the VF5.
I was just going to buy it, and have it modded for dual compatibility. If that cant be done, I'll just buy this to play SFAC on my 360 and get a T5 stick down the road for tourneys.

[MaybeMemories]

i forgot hrap3 wont work with ps2 DOH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RockCho]

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-m-49-en-70-26h3.html
Better picture for the Arcana Heart HRAP. ;)

Button Placement:

[ ] /\ O L2
X L1 R1 R2

Just like the opening post said.

[GameCop]

So is this Arcana HRAP going to be better than the original HRAP2? If so, how exactly? :confused:

[Segatashiro]

should it be a problem to change the layout of the buttons on the Arcana Heart HRAP
without massing too much with it?X:
like cutting or extending the wires and stuff.

[Chomite]

I know in first post there is already guide about how to mod T5 US stick (http://himuragames.suddenlaunch3.com...num=1109887687) but damn, this looks complicated since I just started using stick and never done any mods in my life. Do I have to go through all this to just change buttons and stick? Is there any other way?

[Cheesey]

does anyone know where i can buy a pelican ps2/ps3 converter in the UK?

Searched on eBay already - nada.

[tl613]

I'm sure this has been asked before but how do you take the PCB out of a HRAP? I remember seeing something about this before but can't remember what the thread was and search function isn't helping too much. Like say I wanted to switch the PCBs in a HRAP2 and HRAP3.

[Superking]

should it be a problem to change the layout of the buttons on the Arcana Heart HRAP
without massing too much with it?X:
like cutting or extending the wires and stuff.

If the AH HRAP does indeed use quick disconnects (like pretty much every other HRAP), then yes it should be an easy mod, all you have to do is just switch the quick disconnects onto different microswitches.

If the buttons are soldered on (probably won't be, but who knows) then you would have to desolder the buttons and do more work.

The button placement for the Arcana HRAP is the default layout for pretty much a lot of games nowadays.

[] /\ O
X _ R1

Arcana Heart (what the stick is designed for, duh):
A B C
D

Guilty Gear XX whatever version:
K S H
P _ D

Melty Blood Act Cadenza Version B#:
A B C
D _ E

Samurai Spirits Tenkaichi Kenkakuden:
A B C
D _ E

Also even Soul Calibur, in fact this placement originated with the SC3 HRAP afterall.

[Superking]

Im about to go buy the VF5 stick or the EX2 stick for the 360. Is it possible to have a sony ps2 PCB put in it? Also, is the stick itself well built and good(I'm not a modder or any of that shit)? I'm just going to use it for playing 3S/HSF at home.

What does this have to do with a HRAP? Next time go make a new thread, this thread is only for HRAP related queries.

[tl613]

I'm sure this has been asked before but how do you take the PCB out of a HRAP? I remember seeing something about this before but can't remember what the thread was and search function isn't helping too much. Like say I wanted to switch the PCBs in a HRAP2 and HRAP3.

Anyone?

[Superking]

I haven't done it myself for obvious reasons, but the pcb iirc is underneath the turbo switches, so you just remove that part to get to the pcb.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on this.

[toxic025]

is there any sites thats taking HRAP 2 release preorders yet?

[tl613]

I haven't done it myself for obvious reasons, but the pcb iirc is underneath the turbo switches, so you just remove that part to get to the pcb.

Someone correct me if I am wrong on this.

I thought the PCB under the turbo switches was just for the turbo switches and there is a separate PCB for stick and buttons. If not then great that shouldn't be too hard to remove.

[Goukisan]

disregard, solutions have been FOUND

[Sanjuro_The_Ronin]

I have a question. Is it possible to mount a seimitsu LS-33 into an OG HRAP1? What about a LS-56 or a LS-40?

[malik11]

I've noticed that the lever in the new HRAP3 does not use a mounting plate of its own, thus there is only the control panel mounting plate or "baseplate" in place, and instead of using a flat plate to mount the lever, only the two opposed plastic wings are fastened to the centre screw holes on the control panel mounting plate, as shown here: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/3...2e7de520a8.jpg
Or alternately here:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070213/ggl03.jpg

I've also noticed that the stick in fubarduk's (I think that's his name) stick swapping guide is mounted with a flat plate à la JLF-TP-8YT, which is strange, considering Sanwa doesn't seem to normally offer a JLF stick with both a flat plate and a shaft cover.

And so, this brings me to two questions, the first of which is, given Hori's fairly controversial revisions of their control panel mounting plates and now this flat plate-omission factor, can the lever be swapped in the HRAP3 with the distances between all the appropriate screw holes on the control panel mounting plate with all of the other JLF-TP series levers and possibly using a flat plate?

The other question is does the HRAP1vB use the same missing-flat-plate configuration as the HRAP3? I ask this because I've used a friend's HRAP1vB controller and can testify as to its quality, but my concern is that since the wings extending from the base of the lever in the HRAP3 that are fastened to the baseplate are not very wide, the lever may be succeptible to rocking and may as a result not be as sturdy as I've deemed the HRAP1vB. In case it helps in prognosing any problems, I would likely be using this stick for just about every good shoot-em-up, 3S, the Tekken series and maybe even Virtua Fighter one day, and the like.

As for the sturdiness, I've found the following evidence indicating that the HRAP1vB does use (at least, approximately) the same configuration as the HRAP3, so I suppose I shouldn't be worried about that.
this is the inside of my HRAP
can the LS-32 fit in there?
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030332.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030331.jpg
thanx.

I realize that it would be redundant to keep the four corner screw holes if the dimensions didn't fit anything and Hori has impeded installation of the step plate for Seimitsu's top-selling lever so they've clearly chosen Sanwa, and I would think that the HRAP3 can at least accomodate any of the JLF-TP series levers, but I'm advised not to assume.

I've made a similar post to this earlier in another thread. I hope that's not against the rules, but once again, input is appreciated.

[malik11]

I have a question. Is it possible to mount a seimitsu LS-33 into an OG HRAP1? What about a LS-56 or a LS-40?

I don't know about the LS-33 (it might be the same), but if by OG you mean HRAP1 version A (the first model), then an LS-40 should fit with a regular step plate. If by OG you mean the version B then you can only mount it with a flat plate but the shaft height might be too low for ease of use. I hear the LS-56 is perfect for the version B for this reason, because it has a longer shaft, although you would probably want the LS-56-01 specifically, because I think it comes with the universal 5-pin connector and you wouldn't have to cut off any connectors or solder. As for the LS-40-01, it doesn't seem to come with its own harness but I think it still has the universal 5-pin connector.

[Superking]

Thread bump, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[Bob Poundmax]

what ever happened to Hori re-releasing the Hrap-2?

[chinodaho]

what ever happened to Hori re-releasing the Hrap-2?

i read somewhere it's like in a week...sorry, no link. Lemme find it

what ever happened to this becoming a sticky? it totally should be

EDIT:LINKY (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.horistore.com%2Fshop% 2Fitem_detail.php%3Fid%3D316&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8)
29 SEP 07
good luck

[MaybeMemories]

where can u even get one?

[0746]

Hori FS-2 buttons are Sanwa or Hori? Or is that the same as HARP 2?

[B&B]

AFAIK, they are hori buttons.

[SteveTren]

Any word on a Hrap3 for the 360? Wonder why PS3 got one first....

[TingBoy]

Because the past 2 HRAPs have been on the PS1 and PS2

I've never heard of HRAP3 going to 360, but meh, I could be wrong.

[Gasp]

Any word on a Hrap3 for the 360? Wonder why PS3 got one first....

ps3 had Tekken 5:DR (which hori has supported before with the hrap knock off) and Virtual Fighter 5.

360 had.




....................................doa4

[shoo]

doa4


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Limbrooke]

And so, this brings me to two questions, the first of which is, given Hori's fairly controversial revisions of their control panel mounting plates and now this flat plate-omission factor, can the lever be swapped in the HRAP3 with the distances between all the appropriate screw holes on the control panel mounting plate with all of the other JLF-TP series levers and possibly using a flat plate?

I'm curious to find this out as well. Although I wonder if anyone actually has any information on this...

[SuicidalGrandpa]

So my next project (maybe delaying my actual custom to do this, since I'm fucked on wiring for the real one) is to mod the T5. I'm wondering if there is any solid explanation for how I should be getting new artwork on there...

[Hiruke]

Yes, I realize the optimal solution is just to play PS2 games on a PS2, but with that in mind:

While operation with the HRAP3 is flawless with PS3 software and on a PC, when playing PS2 software, random inputs will be sent to the game (usually "up" commands, but other joystick presses, as well as any of the buttons - including the PS button - are not uncommon). At least a couple of other people mentioned having the same problem (and both of my HRAP3s do it), across multiple PS2 games, so I want to assume it's the PS3 firmware's fault. Is this only a recent issue? Say 1.9x? A lot of folks mentioned that the HRAP3 worked fine around 1.8x, so I'd like to think this problem didn't exist then. I realize very few of you folks are actually using a PS3 for PS2 games, but if you are, have you had this problem as well? If so, only on the HRAP3 or with other sticks as well?

The main point of this post is that I'm thinking of getting an HRAP2 and a Pelican converter, so I can take a stick to other people's houses, etc. and so I can play PS2 games on my PS3 until (if/when) Sony decides to fix this. I know a lot of folks have posted previously that the HRAP2/Pelican combo works perfectly on the PS3, but can anyone confirm that this still works correctly with PS2 software as of the 1.93 firmware update? If it has the same problems as the HRAP3, for example, it's kind of pointless for me. I'm a little paranoid about fronting more money to have it still not work out.

Thanks.

(Yes, I regret selling my PS2 so soon after obtaining the 60GB PS3. Here I thought there wouldn't be any significant bc problems....)

[Superking]

Not really for this thread but, if you guys really want Sony to make the fixes needed so 2D games or other games (such as Music games) run without any lag or problems is to email them about it on the Official Playstation site. There is a section there where you can email them suggestions or ask them to fix things wrong with the current firmware.

You know they actually do listen to the consumer err gamer, a lot of the Firmware updates were suggestions made by gamers who sent in queries regarding them.

And since most gamers do not play 2D fighting games, and play other genres more (which for the most part run a lot better on the PS3 than they do on the PS2), most don't really see anything needed to be updated. And if they do want something fixed (such as FFXII's jaggity jaggy jags at PS3 launch), they report it and then Sony addresses the issue with a fix.

If I knew all the details on what is needed to be fixed for better compatibility with the 2D fighters, I would have probably sent in a query long ago. So for any of you who know what the exact problems are, you should probably go tell Sony yourself about them.

[Hiruke]

There is a section there where you can email them suggestions or ask them to fix things wrong with the current firmware.

I actually sent them an email before I wrote my post. When they finally got back to me, they told me it would be better to call them, and also gave me a bunch of links to stuff like the PS3 Online User Guide ("We also have additional resources that may assist you with your PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment system." ...yay). Since it's a problem that can only be solved through a firmware update, I don't see how banging my head trying to explain the problem any clearer on the phone is going to help. It's not like they are going to talk me through how to write my own firmware update to the PS3. >.>

You don't happen to have a direct link to the page you're talking about, do you?

[sambao]

So my next project (maybe delaying my actual custom to do this, since I'm fucked on wiring for the real one) is to mod the T5. I'm wondering if there is any solid explanation for how I should be getting new artwork on there...u can do what this dood did:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=140160

laminated artwork + glue. That is what I am doing (I bought me sum glue today)

you can fit lexan atop the stick too, but only if you are using screw in buttons coz they will not accommodate snap-ins.

and off topic for u guy (but posting it here becoz I do not feel like making new topic);

do you think playing on an octagonal gate makes you play better on a square?

or does practicing on square make you perform better on octagonal?

or are the two independent of each other??

the arcades I got to all have square gates on their cabs, and I bought me an octagonal one for my T5 mod just in case, I'm debating which gate to use.

[TingBoy]

If you want to emulate the arcade experience, pick square. Otherwise, go with what you like more.

[Xorcist]

Wow... freakin' Arcana Heart Limited Edition HRAP2 sold out hard on play-asia! I couldn't even get a pre-order in (as they apparently filled them all), so I waited... now it's listed as out of print / out of stock. Anyone know if these are going to resurface at all, or where I can pruchase a regular HRAP2?

Wasn't the HRAP2 supposed to have a re-release not too long ago?

[EvilSamurai]

Wow... freakin' Arcana Heart Limited Edition HRAP2 sold out hard on play-asia! I couldn't even get a pre-order in (as they apparently filled them all), so I waited... now it's listed as out of print / out of stock. Anyone know if these are going to resurface at all, or where I can pruchase a regular HRAP2?

Wasn't the HRAP2 supposed to have a re-release not too long ago?

http://store.videogamecentral.com/ps2horiarcadestick.html

[xxsmall]

Looks like TMove has the HRAP 2 back in stock.

Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 Fighting Stick Controller for Sony PS2 (http://www.tmove.net/index.php/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,254/category_id,4/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,30/)

[izanagisama]

I was hoping to snag one of the Arcana Heart sticks too.
I actually just put in an order for another HRAP2 from a guy on another site who had to use VGC,http://store.videogamecentral.com/ps2horiarcadestick.html, due to problems with a dropshipper; the site had listed the ETA for shipping to be the 8th, but they're supposedly just getting 'em out today due to problems in customs or something. They say it should be here sometime early next week, but I'm still waiting on confirmation that it's been shipped and my tracking info...:confused: Guess we'll see how that goes...

[MaybeMemories]

^ WORST SITE EVER

Subtotal: 99.99
Shipping: 164.50
total = 265 dollars.


WORST FUCKING SITE EVER, what type of delivery is fucking more than the item itself ?

[pdk]

unless they're shipping an elephant in there too that's a huge ripoff, no reason not to post a wanted ad in the trading post instead

or get an easier-to-find hrap3 and slap in a dual shock pcb like many people have so far...

[corrupted_one]

Sorry if i sound stupid or something but, It is known that there are 3 autofire (Turbo) rates on the Real arcade pro 3 (slow, medium and fast).

So, how is it possible to interchange between the 3 turbo rates?

Thanks in advance.

[urbigbro]

http://lh3.google.com/urbigbro/RwljSitnOEI/AAAAAAAAAFI/gY7ycAq5XZI/s288/greyformica.JPG
Here is another mod type that I haven't seen before. I used formica to replace the sticker on my T5 and also cover up the unused button holes. The thread with an included tutorial is linked to below.

T5 Formica Mod (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?p=4407374#post4407374)

[Saros]

Some ebay online stores might still have the HRAP2 in stock, they often offer flat shipping rate. I just wish it wasn't USD80 to Malaysia where I am :sad:

The search continues

[mmsal]

I would suggest this a sticky.

God dammit I've been explaining the differences between the HRAP and T5 HRAP for more than 5 times the past week.

ok ima sound like the biggest ass right now but.... whats the difference? other then the pic on top of the stick... ;D leme know whenever:wgrin:

[TingBoy]

ok ima sound like the biggest ass right now but.... whats the difference? other then the pic on top of the stick... ;D leme know whenever:wgrin:

Read the first post of this thread plz.

[Fixt00l]

OMG this Hori Reak Arcade Pro 3 sux, men, are out of your minds?I payed 170 euros, in order to ship it to Bulgaria, went 500 km away to receive it, 500 km back home, and this stick is totally useless for PC and MAME!I am talking about Mortal Kombat 1, Street Fighter 2, King Of Fighters 96...:annoy:Even simple fireballs and shoryuken fail, the buttons are extremely slow, this stick is worse than any $ 10 controller, I am so fu**ing sorry I was listening to the hails to Hori sticks.I bet any HAPP-based stick is way better, I have been playing in arcade machines for 10 years, and I just returned from one-I went to see if the problem is me:wasted: For 170 euros, I should have bought 2 Saulabi Arcade sticks, or the X-Arcade Dual joystick...I think I will sell it...Although this gives a nice feeling, even simple games fail due to the slow-reaction stick.It is so light, you have to use your fist, in order to get 360 degree turns...I do not play PS 3 games, dont know how it is for them.So, how is this possible, can anyone tell me?!?!

[V4MPIRO]

OMG this Hori Reak Arcade Pro 3 sux, men, are out of your minds?I payed 170 euros, in order to ship it to Bulgaria, went 500 km away to receive it, 500 km back home, and this stick is totally useless for PC and MAME!I am talking about Mortal Kombat 1, Street Fighter 2, King Of Fighters 96...:annoy:Even simple fireballs and shoryuken fail, the buttons are extremely slow, this stick is worse than any $ 10 controller, I am so fu**ing sorry I was listening to the hails to Hori sticks.I bet any HAPP-based stick is way better, I have been playing in arcade machines for 10 years, and I just returned from one-I went to see if the problem is me:wasted: For 170 euros, I should have bought 2 Saulabi Arcade sticks, or the X-Arcade Dual joystick...I think I will sell it...Although this gives a nice feeling, even simple games fail due to the slow-reaction stick.It is so light, you have to use your fist, in order to get 360 degree turns...I do not play PS 3 games, dont know how it is for them.So, how is this possible, can anyone tell me?!?!

I have 3 Hraps and i love them.

[jakob002]

I just bought an HRAP2 and i need to order some Sanwa buttons from http://www.lizardlick.com/ and i needed to know if i need the 30 mm or the 24 mm ones?

[TingBoy]

30 mm are the action buttons (Square, Triangle, X, Circle, etc...)
24 mm are the start/select buttons

[jakob002]

30 mm are the action buttons (Square, Triangle, X, Circle, etc...)
24 mm are the start/select buttons

Thanks appreciate it.

[TingBoy]

No problem =)

[StuartHayden]

Might be a stupid question but.

Just got my HRAP2 in for PS2 and I have a PS> DC converter and I was trying to play marvel and assist 2 was L1, not R2, any way I can fix this?

-SH

[shoo]

what converter do you have?

[StuartHayden]

Total Control.

Do I need to order a Total Control Plus?

If I do, no big deal.
I got the first one for free.

-SH

[shoo]

ergh i forget

is it the on w/o a vmu slot? and a really long cord?

if yeah its mapped to l1 and r1

the one with tthe vmu slot is r1 r2
like it should be
(plus that one has a switch on the side where you can switch from r1 r2 and l1 r1)

[StuartHayden]

^ Yeah, it doesn't have a VMU slot.

*off to go order a Total Control + from Play-Asia*

Thanks, Shoo! :tup:

-SH

[shoo]

as long as its this one
http://www.4triangles.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_22&products_id=38
ive bought from here before
shipped quick

[Fixt00l]

Then I bet you are not a MAME fan...The joystick even fails to perform a double tap, I mean, VERY FAST.Slow sticks are useless in fighting games.Why are you all ignoring me, why not try to help me-170 euros I payed for the HRAP 3, this is the average monthly salary in my country...

[TingBoy]

Then I bet you are not a MAME fan...The joystick even fails to perform a double tap, I mean, VERY FAST.Slow sticks are useless in fighting games.Why are you all ignoring me, why not try to help me-170 euros I payed for the HRAP 3, this is the average monthly salary in my country...

Because many people have purchased the HRAP3 and have had absolutely no problems on PS3 or MAME.

Were you playing online when you ran into these problems? Everything lags when you play online. If you weren't playing online, then how does your computer act when running MAME? Laggy or smooth?

It is also possible that you purchased a defective HRAP3. If so, try to exchange it for another one from your buyer. If you can't, then I can't really help you there =\.

[Eman157]

Hey, does anyone know if you can swap the joystick easily on a hori real arcade 3 from stock to semitsu? Thinking about buying it.

[TingBoy]

Hey, does anyone know if you can swap the joystick easily on a hori real arcade 3 from stock to semitsu? Thinking about buying it.

IIRC, the HRAP3 uses the same plate as the HRAP1 Ver. B, so putting in a Seimitsu will be a bitch, if its even possible.

[Fixt00l]

Because many people have purchased the HRAP3 and have had absolutely no problems on PS3 or MAME.

Were you playing online when you ran into these problems? Everything lags when you play online. If you weren't playing online, then how does your computer act when running MAME? Laggy or smooth?

It is also possible that you purchased a defective HRAP3. If so, try to exchange it for another one from your buyer. If you can't, then I can't really help you there =\.

I tried it offline-it is the same shit.I will have to pay a very big money stuff to send it back to France and get a new one-about $ 85...I mean you cannot even get a quick combo with this, but, as long as all buttons and stick works in Control Panel-Game controllers...What shall I do...I doubt it if they will change it for me...

[Okapi]

send it back to France

Where in France did you order it ? I couldn't find a store selling it here...

[Pinion]

Don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I in case there's anyone interested these just got posted not too long ago:

http://search.ebay.com/Hori-Real-Arcade-Pro_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC6QQfposZQ5AIPQ2fPosta lQQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsabfm tsZ1QQsacatZQ2d1QQsadisZ200QQsaobfmtsZinsifQQsargn ZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

Don't know if the seller is reliable or not, but best of luck to those who are interested!

[Fixt00l]

Where in France did you order it ? I couldn't find a store selling it here...

Do you want to buy mine, it is brand new?Send me a private message.Help me, men, is it just the stick is different, I have been using x-arcade type (HAPP) for 10 year, is this the problem?I will get a SAULABI, maybe?Dont laugh at me, but I think the stick is not as good as the x-arcade.I do not want to spend years to get used to the Japanese sticks.Allright, even if SANWA is the best, it still clicks like microswitches, what makes it better than HAPP or FANTA?

[malik11]

or get an easier-to-find hrap3 and slap in a dual shock pcb like many people have so far...
I gather this is a little late, but if you're going to slap in a Dual Shock PCB then why not just use the VSHG instead, if MaybeMemories's game is the prospect of swapping in an LS-32 (At least I haven't seen the possibility of this swap ruled out, although Paik4Life's old photos of the VSHG's interior seem to be gone)? Plus it's cheaper and looks pretty.
Granted, I already know one answer to that question and that is the issue of potentially not enough wrist room on the VSHG.

[Fixt00l]

Is this shitty SANWA stick replaceable?I want to replace it for a Fanta or Happ stick.Is this possible on the HRAP 3?

[TingBoy]

Is this shitty SANWA stick replaceable?I want to replace it for a Fanta or Happ stick.Is this possible on the HRAP 3?

Yes, but it'll take quite a bit of case modding. Good luck with that

[V4MPIRO]

Is this shitty SANWA stick replaceable?I want to replace it for a Fanta or Happ stick.Is this possible on the HRAP 3?
Did you try a octagonal gate, and a bat top, yet?

[Fixt00l]

What do you mean? I do not understand... what do I have to do? Do not laugh, but this is the worst stick ever, I do not have years to spare to get used to it...I have won over a hundred tournaments on a real arcade machine, at the neighbourhood, I have no desire for this light stick.Gosh, even double tap reverse+sigle tap forward fails, when done fast!Would anyone be so kind to tell me what to do...So I need to change the top of the stick, in order to look as a HAPP-based stick, is that it?And what is an octagonal gate? I am sorry for not being a native english speaker...

P.S See what a gamer says on domino forum:

"Bat tops on a Sanwa stick are NOT recommended -- the sticks aren't designed for the extra length/leverage, and end up feeling lightweight and mushy as a result. If you want a bat-top stick you're best off with a Happ / Mag-Stik."

?!?!

[TJ_Ernie]

Does any one know where I can buy an Arcana HRAP or an HRAP1.
play-asia is sold out.

Those are the button layouts I'm looking for and can't find either ot these anywhere.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Regards,
Ernie.

[malik11]

Does any one know where I can buy an Arcana HRAP or an HRAP1.
play-asia is sold out.

Those are the button layouts I'm looking for and can't find either ot these anywhere.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Regards,
Ernie.

http://www.japanvideogames.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=real+arcade+pro

Actually, not too long ago, I don't remember there being the HRAP2 there, even though production was resumed. But now they have both. If the HRAP2 is your game, eBay is probably a cheaper bet (because I believe those prices above are not shipped) but for that you better get your ass in gear because the prices (and by that I mean the sum of Buy It Now prices and the respective sellers' shipping charges) seem to be climbing.

This may be sort of a novice's piece of advice, but if you do consider eBay, watch out for internation tariffs and fees, because the buyer is usually responsible and they may run you more than the shipping. To give you an index, I paid around 30 dollars Canadian for shipping, and then a separate 42.11 Canadian dollars' worth of COD.

[TJ_Ernie]

Thanks bro,
You just made my day. If I could give you rep I would. You rock !

[vegetta]

CAN someone tell me how take the turbo switch panel and ps2 cord out of the hrap case

i disconnected my stick and buttons and the wires run to the turbo switch panel, which then has another set of wires coming out of the turbo switch panel that turn into the ps2 cord

the wires from the stick and buttons are glued onto the turbo panel, but the wires from the ps2 cord are connected to some white thing....is this white thing like the connector on the stick ???

the hole in the case the ps2 cord runs through is too small for the end of the ps2 cord to go through so how can i get the cord out ????? of the hrap

[Fixt00l]

Is it possible (and how) to get rid of this absolute junk SANWA and put in a HAPP COMPETITION into the HRAP 3? And would this fit into the HRAP 3- http://www.starcab.net/product_info.php?products_id=115 .Which SANWA/Seimitsu stick is closest to the stiff HAPP stick?

[Saros]

Is it possible (and how) to get rid of this absolute junk SANWA and put in a HAPP COMPETITION into the HRAP 3? And would this fit into the HRAP 3- http://www.starcab.net/product_info.php?products_id=115 .Which SANWA/Seimitsu stick is closest to the stiff HAPP stick?

I'd suggest selling the HRAP3 stick and buying a HAPP stick.

[Fixt00l]

I'd suggest selling the HRAP3 stick and buying a HAPP stick.

Which one?Slikstik?X-arcade is too expensive and has so many issues, MAS too...Which one would you recommend? http://www.slikstik.com/webstore/webstore.asp?productid=SSCP5&category=79

[TingBoy]

Which one?Slikstik?X-arcade is too expensive and has so many issues, MAS too...Which one would you recommend? http://www.slikstik.com/webstore/webstore.asp?productid=SSCP5&category=79

Although the X-Arcade does suck, you CAN do this...

If you feel adventurous, you can try what I've done before. X-Arcade sucks, but their control panels aren't too bad. You can get a blank Solo panel for $30 shipped. On SRK you can get a pre-wired PCB for $20. Then go to LizardLick.com (or other HAPP parts retailer closer to you) and get your joystick and buttons for another $30. That's $80 for a good Happ stick.

It might be a little more from you since you don't live in America, but might be a cheaper option

[Senkei33]

i have and HRAP 3 and want to switch out the PCB so i can play it on PS2???? is there any way i can do this....i don't really know were any kind of information is on this so any help on how to do this would be great....

:)

[Fixt00l]

So nobody would recommend the dual slikstik?I need a double controller...

[kliquey]

I like my HRAP 2. Got it in August, and been playing on it! I have not yet perfected how to use it, but I love it now! I went from 0 stick experience to loving my hrap 2 ;)!

[orka]

i'd like to inform that the arcana heart hrap has buttons soldered to the pcb, just like the sc3 and t5 stick. i didn't bother checking before i ordered my new parts, and was pretty disappointed.

[Augmint]

Damn that sucks.
Thanks for the warning.

[malik11]

i'd like to inform that the arcana heart hrap has buttons soldered to the pcb, just like the sc3 and t5 stick. i didn't bother checking before i ordered my new parts, and was pretty disappointed.

Thank you for the info, sir. Did you by chance get to see whether or not an LS-32-compatible baseplate is equipped, i.e. whether the baseplate looks like...

this (the plate on the left in each of the top 2 images)...
http://members.cox.net/joystick.troopers/img20060211233821.jpg

or this?
http://www.geocities.jp/u3q_yusaku/d20040819d.JPG

I ask because I've heard somewhere that the Arcana Heart HRAP is modelled after the HRAP 2. This information is not immediately essential to me so don't bother checking if you don't really want to but maybe it could one day go onto the first post of this thread, along with this new quick disconnect absence information.

[Yeton]

snip.

Haven't you bought your HRAP1b yet? Y'know, there are a few HRAP2s on ebay at the moment ... it'll be pretty pricey after postage from the States/customs duty though. :wasted:

[onimusha10154]

Thank you for the info, sir. Did you by chance get to see whether or not an LS-32-compatible baseplate is equipped, i.e. whether the baseplate looks like...

this (the plate on the left in each of the top 2 images)...
http://members.cox.net/joystick.troopers/img20060211233821.jpg

or this?
http://www.geocities.jp/u3q_yusaku/d20040819d.JPG

I ask because I've heard somewhere that the Arcana Heart HRAP is modelled after the HRAP 2. This information is not immediately essential to me so don't bother checking if you don't really want to but maybe it could one day go onto the first post of this thread, along with this new quick disconnect absence information.

What face plate is that in the first link, middle pic to the right of the mounting plate of the hrap1b? Is that compatible for a seimitsu ls-32-01 and know anywhere I can get it?

[berserkotaku45]

anyone know where i can get a us t5 hori stick tutorial with pics, the one posted on the first page has links to pics but the pics were removed?

[TingBoy]

I might make one similar to my HRAP2 tutorial in a few weeks since I just bought a T5 stick. Keep a look out for that. Otherwise, check this site (http://web.mac.com/cramlet/iWeb/t5mod/T5mod/T5mod.html) out while you're waiting

[malik11]

What face plate is that in the first link, middle pic to the right of the mounting plate of the hrap1b? Is that compatible for a seimitsu ls-32-01 and know anywhere I can get it?

That should just be the standard LS-55 flat plate. I would guess that akihabarashop has it. You can use it with an LS-32-01 but the balltop will be much too close to the control panel surface and your fingers could feel crushed or cramped underneath the balltop, for one thing. Generally the LS-32-01 is mounted with the step plate or "SS plate" on the right in the top image, wherever possible.

[ihira]

Hi.
Are there any step-by-step guides or tutorials for adding your own picture underneath the faceplate for HRAP 2 or 3? Also looking for layout templates for HRAP 2/3.

[TingBoy]

Hi.
Are there any step-by-step guides or tutorials for adding your own picture underneath the faceplate for HRAP 2 or 3? Also looking for layout templates for HRAP 2/3.

First you need to peel off the HRAP2 sticker on the faceplate.

Then you can either print your art on....

1) adhesive vinyl/lamilabel and stick it to the faceplate

or

2) glossy photo paper, then put the art between the faceplate and lexan.

[ihira]

Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm assuming most people in the customs thread do it the 2) way?
And by lexan, you mean the 'front part' that already is a part of the RAP3 right? (sorry dumb question)

[TingBoy]

Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm assuming most people in the customs thread do it the 2) way?
And by lexan, you mean the 'front part' that already is a part of the RAP3 right? (sorry dumb question)

Yea, most custom sticks use Lexan.

No, the HRAP 1/2/3 does not have any lexan. It's just a faceplate with some sort of an adhesive sticker stuck on top.

[Fixt00l]

Is there ANY way to remove the SANWA joke and put a real fighter controller?HAPP Competition or Perfect 360?PLS!

[Oni Ramen]

I just bought a Hori 3 for my PS3 and it's fan freaking-tastic. Only problem is when I go to tournaments I am going to want to use it, but the tournaments will most likely be using PS2s and not PS3s.....different connection...is there any converters r adapters you guys heard of that can go from a ps3 USB connection to a regular PS2/PS1 connection?

Thanks
_______________

[malik11]

I just bought a Hori 3 for my PS3 and it's fan freaking-tastic. Only problem is when I go to tournaments I am going to want to use it, but the tournaments will most likely be using PS2s and not PS3s.....different connection...is there any converters r adapters you guys heard of that can go from a ps3 USB connection to a regular PS2/PS1 connection?

Thanks
_______________

Ignoring the necessary drivers and interpretation protocols and everything, you could try using a Pelican converter backwards with a female-to-female USB adapter and a male-to-male PS2 adapter, but for that attempt you may need a fire extinguisher. :sweat: (Actually, I can't take credit for that one)

But seriously, as people here seem to say, you would probably have to install a DualShock PCB into your HRAP 3.

At early glance, I thought that Elecom converter listed here
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070213/ggl.htm
as a "USBtoPS/PS2" (you can search for that very designation or just look for the pictures of grey adapter-looking things 3/5 of the way down the page) was exactly that, but it turns out it has only a male USB connector and a female PS2 connector, so it would be no good to you.

[Oni Ramen]

well I figured it out, I guess the HRAP3 is not made for ps2 games really...funny thing is that it works 99% of the time perfectly with games like SF3 and CVS2, but every once it a while it will read an UP input out of nowhere, or it will crash the game and return to title screen. Is there any way to achieve backwards computability and have it work properly with older games?

[Oni Ramen]

I emailed Sony support dept. and asked them to include a firmware update for joysticks such as HRAP3 in their next PS3 system update. Who knows what will happen, but, they emailed me a support #, so, if I see no progress I am going to keep calling. I suggest anyone who wants to use their HRAP3 with ps2 games on the ps3 emails them as well...linkies!

http://www.us.playstation.com/corporate/ConsumerServices

Please post a better link, more specific to this topic of firmware updates, if you find one!

[Fixt00l]

Are the two joysticks the same? http://happcontrols.com/joysticks/competition_joy.htm http://www.starcab.net/product_info.php?cPath=219_68_149&products_id=588 Will any of them fit somehow the HRAP3, as this SANWA is a joke for fighters?

[Starcade RIP]

well I figured it out, I guess the HRAP3 is not made for ps2 games really...funny thing is that it works 99% of the time perfectly with games like SF3 and CVS2, but every once it a while it will read an UP input out of nowhere, or it will crash the game and return to title screen. Is there any way to achieve backwards computability and have it work properly with older games?
I suspect it's the PS3 not the stick. The backwards compatibility on the PS3s leaves a lot to be desired.

[Oni Ramen]

I suspect it's the PS3 not the stick. The backwards compatibility on the PS3s leaves a lot to be desired.

I think so as well. Hope they release an updated/new/modded driver for the PS3 OS so it can read these things properly. Really shouldn't be that hard...it's a pretty simple driver. Oh, by firmware update I meant for the PS3, not the sticks.

[Oni Ramen]

I emailed Sony support dept. and asked them to include a firmware update for joysticks such as HRAP3 in their next PS3 system update. Who knows what will happen, but, they emailed me a support #, so, if I see no progress I am going to keep calling. I suggest anyone who wants to use their HRAP3 with ps2 games on the ps3 emails them as well...linkies!

http://www.us.playstation.com/corporate/ConsumerServices

Please post a better link, more specific to this topic of firmware updates, if you find one!

Sony sent me this email back.

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[kliquey]

what the best place to buy sanwa buttons online? by best i mean price-wise and their speed at shipping. i heard a lot of places take forever to ship items out, and i don't want to wait like 3 weeks =/

[shoo]

what the best place to buy sanwa buttons online? by best i mean price-wise and their speed at shipping. i heard a lot of places take forever to ship items out, and i don't want to wait like 3 weeks =/

check the "real arcade parts" section :wink:

[Gigas720]

what the best place to buy sanwa buttons online? by best i mean price-wise and their speed at shipping. i heard a lot of places take forever to ship items out, and i don't want to wait like 3 weeks =/

I got mine from http://www.lizardlick.com/ and they came in under a week and I'm in Canada. They where very well packed as well. Highly recommended. :lovin:


I also wanted to ask you guys. I bought a HRAP3 mainly to use with my PC and it performs pretty well on CPS games but not so great with Neogeo games (especially KOF 98 where I can't seem to pull off my combos and dashing takes 2 tries). I know fixt00l is also frustrated by this. The octagonal gate helped but its not perfect( I actually went back to the scare gate).

Should I have gone with a custom seimitsu based stick or can I swap the JLF for something else? The stick is awesome for 3d games but I don't have a ps3. :wonder:

[EvilSamurai]

I got mine from http://www.lizardlick.com/ and they came in under a week and I'm in Canada. They where very well packed as well. Highly recommended. :lovin:


I also wanted to ask you guys. I bought a HRAP3 mainly to use with my PC and it performs pretty well on CPS games but not so great with Neogeo games (especially KOF 98 where I can't seem to pull off my combos and dashing takes 2 tries). I know fixt00l is also frustrated by this. The octagonal gate helped but its not perfect( I actually went back to the scare gate).

Should I have gone with a custom seimitsu based stick or can I swap the JLF for something else? The stick is awesome for 3d games but I don't have a ps3. :wonder:

Neo Geo games are best played on Seimitsu sticks. You should be able to swap out the JLF for an LS-32-01

[Gigas720]

Neo Geo games are best played on Seimitsu sticks. You should be able to swap out the JLF for an LS-32-01

Thanks but I read that swapping a Ls-32 in a HRAP3 isn't as easy as with the HRAP2.

[vieja escuela]

I just bought a Hori 3 for my PS3 and it's fan freaking-tastic. Only problem is when I go to tournaments I am going to want to use it, but the tournaments will most likely be using PS2s and not PS3s.....different connection...is there any converters r adapters you guys heard of that can go from a ps3 USB connection to a regular PS2/PS1 connection?

Thanks
_______________

Sony is shameful. And let's not forget that Ps2 has two usb ports!

[kliquey]

Ok, so I'm planning on buying some sanwa buttons from lizardlick's website/store. I read TingBoy's HRAP Modding Guide faq and it says if you use sanwa screw-ins, one of the buttons won't fit the Square place or something like that. Which ones should I purchase for the easiest mod.

Sanwa OBSF-30 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSF-24 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSN-30 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSN-24 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

thanks in advance

[malik11]

Thanks but I read that swapping a Ls-32 in a HRAP3 isn't as easy as with the HRAP2.

Yeah, careful. The HRAP3 uses the HRAP1vB baseplate, so it can't be fitted with a Seimitsu step plate without heavy and permanent physical modification.

You might just want the LS-55 or LS-56, also by Seimitsu, of course.

[TingBoy]

Ok, so I'm planning on buying some sanwa buttons from lizardlick's website/store. I read TingBoy's HRAP Modding Guide faq and it says if you use sanwa screw-ins, one of the buttons won't fit the Square place or something like that. Which ones should I purchase for the easiest mod.

Sanwa OBSF-30 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSF-24 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSN-30 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

Sanwa OBSN-24 Pushbutton with Vertical Microswitch

thanks in advance

You'll want to use Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons for the action buttons (square, triangle, X, circle, r1, r2) and Sanwa OBSF-24 buttons for the start/select buttons.

[Kayin]

So how easily will an LS-32 fit in an HRAP1 version A?

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Is there any special way I can remove the T5 stick's artwork?

[Kayin]

So how easily will an LS-32 fit in an HRAP1 version A?

Nevermind, actually read the first page.

I have a new question tho. What's reccomended? LS-32? LS-32-01?

[EvilSamurai]

Nevermind, actually read the first page.

I have a new question tho. What's reccomended? LS-32? LS-32-01?

LS-32-01 is much easier to install on a HRAP due to it using a PCB and a JLF-compatible 5-pin cable. On the "regular" LS-32, you connect the wires directly to the microswitches similar to HAPP sticks. LS-32 is better for Xbox 360 though due to the official controller not having a common ground.

[Kayin]

LS-32-01 is much easier to install on a HRAP due to it using a PCB and a JLF-compatible 5-pin cable. On the "regular" LS-32, you connect the wires directly to the microswitches similar to HAPP sticks. LS-32 is better for Xbox 360 though due to the official controller not having a common ground.

Thanks muchly~<3

[TingBoy]

Is there any special way I can remove the T5 stick's artwork?

Nope. Just peel it off and use adhesive remover on any leftover residue.

So how easily will an LS-32 fit in an HRAP1 version A?

If you need any help putting in a LS-32-01 in your HRAP1 vA or HRAP2, take a look at my HRAP2 tutorial. It covers putting in buttons and swapping the stick out for an LS-32-01

[EvilSamurai]

I have a question about the ball top on the stock JLF that comes with the HRAP2. Is it orange, red, or vermilion?

[erikstanton]

red.

[EvilSamurai]

red.

thanks. I am asking because I am going to buy a HRAP2, an LS-32-01, and red sanwa buttons; put the stock balltop on the seimitsu, and put everything in the hrap2. Another question: Is it true that the stock QDs are loose when connected to Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons?

[erikstanton]

do you mean like the wire crimped was loose or the QD was loose fitting on the points of the button?

not for me, i pushed them in all the way and they seem pretty tight. id probably have to take them off with a screwdriver or something, not with bare hands.

bad photo but here it is
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/erikstanton/1027071851.jpg

[V4MPIRO]

I have a question about the ball top on the stock JLF that comes with the HRAP2. Is it orange, red, or vermilion?

Is not red, is vermilion.

[erikstanton]

oh youre right -___- they are vermillion. just checked lizard lick right now. red=much darker.

[insomnotek]

i searched around the threads for awhile and i couldnt find an answer so

how feasible is it to put in a seimitsu ls32 into a t5 stick? do i have to drill any extra holes on the mounting plate or can i just pop it in there?

[SupraFist]

i searched around the threads for awhile and i couldnt find an answer so

how feasible is it to put in a seimitsu ls32 into a t5 stick? do i have to drill any extra holes on the mounting plate or can i just pop it in there?

pretty much. but i've seen others glue 2 pieces of wood and then screw it to that.

[ejdge]

Mmm anyone know where I can get a 7mm nut driver? I went to a variety of hardware stores around me and none of them have any!

[TingBoy]

From what I've seen, they usually come in sets. The head, which determines the size, is just an attachment.

[V4MPIRO]

what is the best way to clean the top of a HRAP2, to prevent from scratches?

[EvilSamurai]

what is the best way to clean the top of a HRAP2, to prevent from scratches?

HRAP2s are not really vulnerable to scratches. Are you talking about the HRAP1a with the mirror top?

[V4MPIRO]

no, I am talking about the HRAP2.

[Hiruke]

Sony sent me this email back.

Hello Derek,

Thank you for writing us.

We value your input and appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Please rest assured that we
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They clearly don't care much, since the 2.10 firmware update does absolutely nothing to address this issue. :sweat: I've been bugging them for a while now via email and their blog. Guess I'm going to do it some more now.

[Eckostyle]

Does the HRAP2 work with the XBOX Magic Box converter?

[V4MPIRO]

yes, it does.

[malik11]

what is the best way to clean the top of a HRAP2, to prevent from scratches?

I would imagine it's not too different from cleaning optical discs - just don't use anything dry, like they tell you in game instruction manuals (because wiping dry, say, with cotton balls, actually scratches big time); rather, dampen a soft cloth or even soft tissue paper with water and proceed. I've heard of cleaning discs with rubbing alcohol, but that's not something I do with original discs. Oh, and don't forget to install a diamond faceplate for scratch-proofing.

Personally I haven't gone out of my way to clean my HRAP2 yet. I just blow off the dust every once in a while. Hehehe. I haven't had it for too long but I'm not too worried about it.

[BloodyStag]

i have a ripped cord on my HRAP1. what are my options here? is there any way to replace it? is there anyone that can repair, or send me a replacement?

[JubeiNinja69]

where can i find those big screws to mount the jlf stick to the hrap?

[Tetsuosan]

I got a Wii for Christmas and was wondering what adapter would best work for my HRAP 2? I asked this in the controller adapter thread but no one answered me.

[E-bortion]

i have a ripped cord on my HRAP1. what are my options here? is there any way to replace it? is there anyone that can repair, or send me a replacement?

Hori cords are interchangable. I know for a fact that the Tekken 5 stick's cord can be swapped with the Hori one. Your best bet is to hit up trading outlet for that, or find someone with a busted up t5 they dont use.

[Fixt00l]

OK, I bought a HAPP COMPETITION stick and I figured out that it is much larger than the SANWA one.I cannot put it inside my HRAP3, maybe I will have to rip off the bottom in order to expand it with a new one, maybe from wood.I swapped the buttons for SANWA ones and I can only say-OMG what a difference...The HORI buttons are a fake replica.Any help with putting the Competition stick in?I tried a bat top and a octogonal plate, it is much better for fighting games, but all my friends are used to HAPP sticks.I need to make tournaments with them, any single one of them has been winning champioships for years.HELP please!I think I can build one myself, I got the stick and the HORI buttons...

[EvilSamurai]

OK, I bought a HAPP COMPETITION stick and I figured out that it is much larger than the SANWA one.I cannot put it inside my HRAP3, maybe I will have to rip off the bottom in order to expand it with a new one, maybe from wood.I swapped the buttons for SANWA ones and I can only say-OMG what a difference...The HORI buttons are a fake replica.Any help with putting the Competition stick in?I tried a bat top and a octogonal plate, it is much better for fighting games, but all my friends are used to HAPP sticks.I need to make tournaments with them, any single one of them has been winning champioships for years.HELP please!I think I can build one myself, I got the stick and the HORI buttons...

You should probably just keep the Sanwa JLF in the HRAP3 and try to build your own Happ stick, which sounds much easier than trying to fit a Happ Competition into a HRAP. American sticks seem to be simpler to build than japanese sticks. Have a look in the appropriate threads to find some more info.

[Simon83]

Not sure where the best place is to ask this?
How much do you think a HRAP1 Version B is worth? Thinking of selling mine, UK only though.

Would put it on ebay, but I'm not sure anyone would buy it (there are no other HRAPs on there) or the Trading Outlet of this forum (but not many brits there?).

Thanks for your help.

[EvilSamurai]

Not sure where the best place is to ask this?
How much do you think a HRAP1 Version B is worth? Thinking of selling mine, UK only though.

Would put it on ebay, but I'm not sure anyone would buy it (there are no other HRAPs on there) or the Trading Outlet of this forum (but not many brits there?).

Thanks for your help.

A HRAP2 goes for about $100-110 NIB shipped in the US. I say about $80 if it is unmodded and has seen heavy use, $90 if onlt used an average amount. If it is modded with Sanwa buttons then maybe about $90 if used a lot, $100 if used an average amount, maybe $110 if it is barely used and completely intact. If you put an octagonal gate on the HRAP, then you can add about $2.50 to the price. If the Sanwa JLF is broken, deduct about $25 from the price. If stick has broken buttons but a working stick the starting price should be about 80.

Since you are in the UK, find out what a HRAP2 cost shipped to the UK along with hte UK pricing of Sanwa sticks and buttons in order to determine the price. You should deduct about 10% or so since you have a HRAP1b which has a much inferior layout compared to a HRAP2 due to the placing of the start/select buttons. If you had a HRAP1a then I would deduct about 15% due to the highly scratchable top.

[MaybeMemories]

hey, i play on pc online but would practice seldomly on ps2 or xbox, dont have a ps3, probably wont buy one either

so only thing in stock anywhere is hori 3. Any way to get it to work with ps2?
could i replace the pcb ? i take its straight up usb and i would loose that and be stuck with using pelican convertor if i want to play on pc?

[TingBoy]

hey, i play on pc online but would practice seldomly on ps2 or xbox, dont have a ps3, probably wont buy one either

so only thing in stock anywhere is hori 3. Any way to get it to work with ps2?
could i replace the pcb ? i take its straight up usb and i would loose that and be stuck with using pelican convertor if i want to play on pc?

Yes, you can swap out the PCB with a PS1 DS PCB.

[MaybeMemories]

Thanks Tingboy, would u recommend this, considering there is 0 alternative, has anyone else changes their hrap3 pcbs?

[erikstanton]

it should be really easy to swap pcbs. you probably dont even have to remove the old one, just remove the QDs and the cord?

is the pcb hidden away like in the hrap 1 and hrap 2?

[MaybeMemories]

i havent bought it yet, theres nothing else out there [in stock], 1 and 2 are out of print.
only downfall here is if i change pcb then im adding another medium when i play on pc.

[malik11]

i havent bought it yet, theres nothing else out there [in stock], 1 and 2 are out of print.
only downfall here is if i change pcb then im adding another medium when i play on pc.

Hold on - There still appear to be plenty of HRAP 2s from Vista Products on eBay, although I don't know how much shipping would be to Ireland. And then there are tariffs. Nonetheless you could ask the seller and I would also recommend asking your customs office how much the tariffs and fees would be.

[EvilSamurai]

HRAP2 is easily available from many places.

[MaybeMemories]

like where?
thanks malik11, but they do not ship internationally.

are these re released editions [did that even go through?]

[Nashville_Ninja]

HRAP2 $89.95

http://joystores.com/cart/index.php?main_page=specials

[MaybeMemories]

HRAP2 $89.95

http://joystores.com/cart/index.php?main_page=specials

Thanks,
has anyone bought from these???????? site seems a bit dodgy.
United postal service deliver international i take it, site has several posting methods, that being cheapest

[mcginnis]

With shipping it'll come to about 105 or more depending on how fast you want it. I got mine from http://videogameaction.com/ and it cost a flat $100 w/ shipping for me. Highly recommend that site. :tup:

[MaybeMemories]

thanks but im in europe ! theyre shipping section has just US and military :o !

[TingBoy]

Does anyone know which wire is the 3.3v and which is the ground on the HRAP2 cable? Looking at the PCB from the back of the HRAP2, the wires are in this order from left to right:
Blue, Red, Brown, Yellow, Orange, Grey, Green, Black

Black doesn't seem to be ground and red doesn't seem to be the 3.3v like it usually is on PSX pads.

Man, I need to buy a multimeter -_-;

Edit: Added photos. Links under the pictures are the full size images.

Front of PCB
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/41570/2794115970084014115S600x600Q85.jpg
http://image68.webshots.com/168/1/15/97/2794115970084014115LtFZyF_fs.jpg

Back of PCB
http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/7197/22237869