Hori Real Arcade Pro FAQ for all versions

[nGuman]

From what I have been reading from the forums and searching, Sanwa buttons. I don't know exactly what size but Sanwa buttons. Anyway, HRAP 2 or HRAP 3 for PS2 games on PS3 use? If so post a link that actually has a HRAP available. XD Thanks for your efforts.

[ulovemikeroch]

Either ones work. Sanwa or Seimitsu. As long as they are 30mm they both fit. The recommended ones are the snapins from either company though.

[Tetsuosan]

vistaproducts.net is where I bought both of mine from. I don't know if they do int. shipping but its worth a try. FYI: if your in the states it'll take about 2 weeks for del.

[DeepThoughts]

So I've read that the Seimitsu LS-32 won't fit (easily) in an hrap3 but that the LS-55/56 will? Judging by pics, the 32 has a shorter shaft, but what are the other differences? Can the plate from the 55/56 be used with the 32 to make it fit the hrap3?

Also, for those asking about the T5 mod: I used the hori button casings from my hrap2 (which fit in the T5) and swapped out just the switches with sanwa.

[ulovemikeroch]

Yeah I'd like to know all the specific differences between the seimitsu's too, especially between the one on LizardLick.

[Tetsuosan]

So I've read that the Seimitsu LS-32 won't fit (easily) in an hrap3 but that the LS-55/56 will? Judging by pics, the 32 has a shorter shaft, but what are the other differences? Can the plate from the 55/56 be used with the 32 to make it fit the hrap3?

Also, for those asking about the T5 mod: I used the hori button casings from my hrap2 (which fit in the T5) and swapped out just the switches with sanwa.

Only one way to find out :wonder:.... One of us is going to have to be a guinea pig lol

[lw3]

are ps2 hraps still being produced? Ps2 is still far from dead especially with all the fighters still coming to it.

[Superking]

are ps2 hraps still being produced? Ps2 is still far from dead especially with all the fighters still coming to it.

Just the Arcana Heart one, though I'm pretty sure that one has run its course.

[DeepThoughts]

There are still new hrap2s on ebay for $120 shipped, but now the ps3 converter of choice (pelican) has vanished.

[MaybeMemories]

i think these are the hrap 2 re released. i got one here
http://joystores.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=39

cheaper shipping than ebay, been tracking it since 30th, status is still in USA :(

Bullet International Dispatch, January 31, 2008, 9:06 am, LOS ANGELES
Bullet Processed, January 31, 2008, 9:04 am, LONG BEACH, CA 90810
Bullet Acceptance, January 30, 2008, 7:12 pm, CITY OF INDUSTRY, CA 91715
Bullet Processed, January 30, 2008, 6:59 pm, CITY OF INDUSTRY, CA 91715
Bullet Electronic Shipping Info Received, January 30, 2008

[orochizoolander]

I don't know if this is the right thread but axis a stick builder in the trading outlet forum said he can't make me a stick that will work on 360, ps2, and ps3 and can only make it work for 1 system. Primarily i play fighting games on my 360 but would like my stick to also work on ps2/3 so i can use it at tournaments so if i tell axis to make me a custom stick for 360 (balltop jlf w/semitsu buttons) are there any converters/adapters so i can use it on ps2/3 as well?

[Ruben]

I was thinking of buying an HRAP3 after seeing how difficult it is to get a custom stick. However I have a couple of queries.

I have read somewhere on the forum (although I cannot remember where) that the HRAP3 comes with a square restrictor plate. Is this true or does it come with an octagonal restrictor? Also if it comes with a square restrictor will this affect me negatively when I try to make quarter circle movements like the hadouken or the shoryuken?

I was thinking of getting one from http://www.games-asia.com. Are they reliable (has someone ordered from them before?) or should I buy from play-asia. Play-Asia said they could deliver the stick in 4 days' time while Games-Asia said in 10 days' time but they are a bit cheaper.

And finally if I want to use the HRAP3 with a PC is it just plug and play or are there some settings that must be configured and programs to be installed for it to work properly?

Thanks in advance for your help and I apologise if some of these answers have already been given before in the forum.

[SupraFist]

comes with square but its easy to replace

[PaRt2]

I think I can ask this question here, so here it goes...

The stick in my HRAP2 is feeling kinda loose. I have an Octagonal gate and It's the standard Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK.
I always felt like it should be tighter.

Is it just normal wear?
Should I replace it (at all?) with the same stick or go with a different Sanwa?

[EvilSamurai]

I think I can ask this question here, so here it goes...

The stick in my HRAP2 is feeling kinda loose. I have an Octagonal gate and It's the standard Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK.
I always felt like it should be tighter.

Is it just normal wear?
Should I replace it (at all?) with the same stick or go with a different Sanwa?

If you want a tighter stick, then put a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in

[MaybeMemories]

our item arrived in IRELAND at 11:23 AM on February 4, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

HURRAY. only took 5 days [3 workings days]

Ruben - id order from http://joystores.com/, as they mark items as gift = no duty. Let me see if i get stung with tax first, also delivery is cheaper than rip off playasia.

HRAP3 comes with a square restrictor plate = so does HRAP2, i think they work fine for QCF's

edit: dang think i got the last one :D

[Ruben]

our item arrived in IRELAND at 11:23 AM on February 4, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

HURRAY. only took 5 days [3 workings days]

Ruben - id order from http://joystores.com/, as they mark items as gift = no duty. Let me see if i get stung with tax first, also delivery is cheaper than rip off playasia.

HRAP3 comes with a square restrictor plate = so does HRAP2, i think they work fine for QCF's

edit: dang think i got the last one :D

I know you got the last one because I checked that store a couple of days ago and they were out of stock. :)

I couldn't resist and ordered an HRAP3 from Play Asia and apparently it was the last one they had in stock as well! Hope they don't charge me duty as well (although I think they will! :() after all the shipping costs to get it to Europe.

I will try the square restrictor and see how I do. Hopefully I should be fine because I don't know how to change one and I'm not good at these things!

[Xorcist]

Here's a question to any of the HRAP2/HRAP3 MODers out there. I've been working on a new face plate to change the button layout etc. to better suit my hands and play style (which is made out of sheet-metal). This being said, the mounting bracket for the joystick had to be screwed to the face plate. I'd like to cover all this up with something so the screws don't show.

What materials are best to make an overlay? Would something like a huge sticker work? or are there better ways to cover this up?

[TripleChin]

Hold on - There still appear to be plenty of HRAP 2s from Vista Products on eBay, although I don't know how much shipping would be to Ireland. And then there are tariffs. Nonetheless you could ask the seller and I would also recommend asking your customs office how much the tariffs and fees would be.

Are they still on eBay? I'm having trouble finding anything right now.

[DeepThoughts]

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=real+arcade+pro&category0=

[malik11]

Are they still on eBay? I'm having trouble finding anything right now.

I don't see any from Vista Products. Here is something, although the shipping is expensive (for Canada and other countries):
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-PS2-REAL-ARCADE-PRO-JOYSTICK-CONTROLLER-HORI-SALE_W0QQitemZ350022060735QQihZ022QQcategoryZ21188 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQ cmdZViewItem

Actually, for anyone international, I suppose this is an alternative to Vista Products, who sometimes claim not to ship internationally.

[malik11]

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=real+arcade+pro&category0=

Ack! Beat me to the punch.

[PenGs]

What is more preferred in general, the HRAP2 or 3?

If I'm not mistaken, I can answer my own question and say HRAP2 because then you can also just get the PS3 converter and have it working on PSX/PS2/PS3/PC?

[MaybeMemories]

just got home to this suprise

https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~qasimf/b.jpg
https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~qasimf/c.jpg

im a bit suprised by the length of the stick itself, im quite
used to the long happ one, not sure how il adapt to this
stubby sanwa one, seems quite short and small to get a grip on it properly.
https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~qasimf/a.jpg

now to get some shiny buttons.
good thing i ordered a pelican conv few months ago. :)

[ramza]

plug up the last two, get some sanwa buttons and you're golden. going from american to jap stick is hard though; you're really going to struggle to not overdo every motion

[MaybeMemories]

thats exactly it ramza, its overdoing but defo underdoing it for the supers :( also bumping my knuckles off the base. Damn these sticks should be horizontally higher

[DarkDeath]

Hi, I'm new to purchasing an arcade stick and I have a few specifics on the arcade stick I want and was wondering if I could get those specifics here. I've done a heavy amount of research on arcade sticks and have a fair amount of information, but I just want to be sure here. I want to get a stick specificly for Tekken 6, I'm assuming the T6 and T5DR cabs use the same joystick/buttons so I guess in general, T5DR/6 cab style stick. I plan to buy a stick to mimic that stick and I've come to the decision of either:

Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 2
Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 3

I know that they both come with a sanwa joystick and hori stock buttons. I also know that they are both mod friendly. I plan to get sanwa buttons.

But is the Sanwa Joystick that comes with the HRAP2/3 the same stick that's in T6/T5DR Cabs?

Also, I found the modding tutorial here, and was wondering if modding a HRAP2 is the same as modding a HRAP3?

My last question is that is there any huge difference between HRAP2/3 other than the fact that one only supports PS3/PC?

Are there other converters other than pelican that support HRAPS good? I currently have the ASid Converter(Pictured beside) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/436291315_004de4f9db_o.gif
will there be problems with this one?

I was thinking of getting a HRAP2 for the sake of it playing ps2 games(Jap versions) on ps2 and whatnot, but I'm starting to decide to just order HRAP3 because most of the fighting games I play are already legit ps2 or for ps3 (GG Accent Core, Tekken, King of fighters)

and if anyone can, can someone be specific about the type of joystick/buttons that I need to fully mimic T6/T5DR.

Thanks for all the help!

[lw3]

Hi, I'm new to purchasing an arcade stick and I have a few specifics on the arcade stick I want and was wondering if I could get those specifics here. I've done a heavy amount of research on arcade sticks and have a fair amount of information, but I just want to be sure here. I want to get a stick specificly for Tekken 6, I'm assuming the T6 and T5DR cabs use the same joystick/buttons so I guess in general, T5DR/6 cab style stick. I plan to buy a stick to mimic that stick and I've come to the decision of either:

Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 2
Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 3

I know that they both come with a sanwa joystick and hori stock buttons. I also know that they are both mod friendly. I plan to get sanwa buttons.

But is the Sanwa Joystick that comes with the HRAP2/3 the same stick that's in T6/T5DR Cabs?

Also, I found the modding tutorial here, and was wondering if modding a HRAP2 is the same as modding a HRAP3?

My last question is that is there any huge difference between HRAP2/3 other than the fact that one only supports PS3/PC?

I was thinking of getting a HRAP2 for the sake of it playing ps2 games(Jap versions) on ps2 and whatnot, but I'm starting to decide to just order HRAP3 because most of the fighting games I play are already legit ps2 or for ps3 (GG Accent Core, Tekken, King of fighters)

and if anyone can, can someone be specific about the type of joystick/buttons that I need to fully mimic T6/T5DR.

Thanks for all the help!

get hrap3 for ps3 only and for ps2 games get hrap2 with pelican ps2->ps3 converter . the hrap3 has been known to have problems with ps2 games.and with the pelican coverter you get no lag when using hrap 2 on pc and ps3. just plug and play

[Ruben]

thats exactly it ramza, its overdoing but defo underdoing it for the supers :( also bumping my knuckles off the base. Damn these sticks should be horizontally higher

Hmm I think I might have your problem once the stick arrives. I am not used to playing on Japanese sticks. I think I have small hands though so that might be an advantage for me and my knuckles. :)

[Ruben]

get hrap3 for ps3 only and for ps2 games get hrap2 with pelican ps2->ps3 converter . the hrap3 has been known to have problems with ps2 games.and with the pelican coverter you get no lag when using hrap 2 on pc and ps3. just plug and play

I thought the HRAP3 did not have any more problems with PS2 games with the latest firmware. At least that's what I read in a couple of reviews on the net although someone from this site said he still had some problems.

[MaybeMemories]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

[Ruben]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

I have been worrying about what you are saying for some time but I decided to get the HRAP3 because many of the pros seem to find the Japanese style better and I decided to give it a shot. I am used to playing SF on an arcade with a HAPP stick with the American button layout. Well, practice a bit a see if it gets better. It's least you can do after spending so much money on the stick!

[DeepThoughts]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

Just give it time. I was a dedicated happ user until just a few months ago when I got my hrap2. The stock sanwa was a bit too soft for me, so I put in a seimitsu. I still have my sfae stick with happ parts, but I never use it anymore.

[TingBoy]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

You can hold it like a wine glass, pencil style, etc. There was a thread around here about the different styles.

[Rikidozan]

Hi, I'm new to purchasing an arcade stick and I have a few specifics on the arcade stick I want and was wondering if I could get those specifics here. I've done a heavy amount of research on arcade sticks and have a fair amount of information, but I just want to be sure here. I want to get a stick specificly for Tekken 6, I'm assuming the T6 and T5DR cabs use the same joystick/buttons so I guess in general, T5DR/6 cab style stick. I plan to buy a stick to mimic that stick and I've come to the decision of either:

Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 2
Hori Real Arcade Stick Pro 3

I know that they both come with a sanwa joystick and hori stock buttons. I also know that they are both mod friendly. I plan to get sanwa buttons.

But is the Sanwa Joystick that comes with the HRAP2/3 the same stick that's in T6/T5DR Cabs?

Also, I found the modding tutorial here, and was wondering if modding a HRAP2 is the same as modding a HRAP3?

My last question is that is there any huge difference between HRAP2/3 other than the fact that one only supports PS3/PC?

Are there other converters other than pelican that support HRAPS good? I currently have the ASid Converter(Pictured beside) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/436291315_004de4f9db_o.gif
will there be problems with this one?

I was thinking of getting a HRAP2 for the sake of it playing ps2 games(Jap versions) on ps2 and whatnot, but I'm starting to decide to just order HRAP3 because most of the fighting games I play are already legit ps2 or for ps3 (GG Accent Core, Tekken, King of fighters)

and if anyone can, can someone be specific about the type of joystick/buttons that I need to fully mimic T6/T5DR.

Thanks for all the help!

Don't bother with the ASiD converter since it drops commands after approx. 7 seconds.
HRAP2 is definitely the best choice if:
You have a good PS2 < PS3 adapter like Pelican
You play a lot of games on your PS2 (Import games)
You have a HDD in your PS2

[ramza]

iirc you can't put a seimetsu stick in hrap3's because of cheaper mounting plates. if you ever wanted to mod that then go for the hrap2.

maybememories: i play it pencil style, i don't see how knuckles would get in the way if you play like that. once you get it down you can really feel how much better it is than american stick imo; the shorter throw lets you react quicker in game with what u wanna do

[Ruben]

iirc you can't put a seimetsu stick in hrap3's because of cheaper mounting plates. if you ever wanted to mod that then go for the hrap2.

maybememories: i play it pencil style, i don't see how knuckles would get in the way if you play like that. once you get it down you can really feel how much better it is than american stick imo; the shorter throw lets you react quicker in game with what u wanna do

What do you mean when you say that the mounting plates are cheaper in the HRAP3? I thought they were the same as the HRAP2.

[EvilSamurai]

What do you mean when you say that the mounting plates are cheaper in the HRAP3? I thought they were the same as the HRAP2.

Hori used cheaper mounting plates in HRAP3s that are not compatible with Seimitsu LS-32 joysticks. The mounting plates in the HRAP2 are though.

[Ruben]

Hori used cheaper mounting plates in HRAP3s that are not compatible with Seimitsu LS-32 joysticks. The mounting plates in the HRAP2 are though.

I see. Well I don't think that will affect me unless I want to mount a Seimitsu.

Just a quick question...are there any PS3 to PS2 converters for the HRAP3? I don't think I will be using it on a PS2 but it's good to know what options I have.

[TingBoy]

I see. Well I don't think that will affect me unless I want to mount a Seimitsu.

Just a quick question...are there any PS3 to PS2 converters for the HRAP3? I don't think I will be using it on a PS2 but it's good to know what options I have.

Nope. Only PS2 -> PS3.

[Starcade RIP]

get hrap3 for ps3 only and for ps2 games get hrap2 with pelican ps2->ps3 converter . the hrap3 has been known to have problems with ps2 games.and with the pelican coverter you get no lag when using hrap 2 on pc and ps3. just plug and play

FYI, the Pelican converter has been discontinued.

[PaRt2]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

Congrats on getting your stick but it's upsetting to see you displeased.

If you want, You can try out a Bat Top on it to give it a tiny bit more legnth. It might feel a little better for you overall. You can even go as far as putting a longer shaft in there aswell. My buddy Geronimo has a bat top in his and I think he swears by them now. I have a bat-top that I sometimes swap out on my Custom whenever I feel (Although, I lost it recently... I think my cat took it cause she thought it was a play toy or something).

I just threw some pictures in the album in my Profile. (http://forums.shoryuken.com/album.php?u=44844)
[Note: The shaft on the stick in my Custom is little bit longer than standard Sanwa's.]

plug up the last two, get some sanwa buttons and you're golden. going from american to jap stick is hard though; you're really going to struggle to not overdo every motion

I just plugged up the last 2 in my HRAP2 and it feels amazing due to the way I lay-out my fingers on the stick. Apparently, some people think it's weird:

Pointer - LK
Middle - LP
Ring - MP
Pinky - HP

[Alphastorm]

i dont have big hands either, i dont know how to hold the stick either. if it was longer it would be great, really prefer my happ to this :(

I am not accustomed to the new ball stick either. You can try switching out the ball top. I ordered thru lizardlick for a bat-top and it has the same feel as a happ except it's shorter in length. Make sure you get the adapter for it.

[mcginnis]

I am not accustomed to the new ball stick either. You can try switching out the ball top. I ordered thru lizardlick for a bat-top and it has the same feel as a happ except it's shorter in length. Make sure you get the adapter for it.

I think holding it like a pencil is the way to go. I didn't like the japanese format when I first tried it, thinking it was way too loose. In a few days you get used to it and I think everyone prefers it after they've tried it for a few days. I'll never go back to the american layout.

[EvilSamurai]

I think holding it like a pencil is the way to go. I didn't like the japanese format when I first tried it, thinking it was way too loose. In a few days you get used to it and I think everyone prefers it after they've tried it for a few days. I'll never go back to the american layout.

American stick or button layout? When American sticks are good, they are good. It is just that Happ is a horrible company that likes to fuck good things up (see ruined Competitions and P360s. They fucked up their two best sticks. Unless you can get old Comps from a few years ago or Wico 360s, just use Japanese sticks). Japanese button layouts are just so much more ergonomic though.


Pointer - LK
Middle - LP
Ring - MP
Pinky - HP

on both american and japanese layouts/buttons I rest my fingers on the buttons like this:

thumb- short
index- jab
middle- strong
ring- fierce
pinky- roundhouse

This enables me to achieve maximum mashability (mash all buttons at once) at any moment. Of course I will hit different buttons with different fingers depending on what I am doing. For examply, in ST, When I do Vega's j. fierce, cr. forward, cr. strong combo, I will hit the fierce button with my middle finger, the forward button with my index, and the strong with my middle.

[TripleChin]

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=real+arcade+pro&category0=

Thanks and thanks to malik11. I see there isn't much choice at the moment. I was hoping for more to be available. I would also want to use one of these on the PC and I noticed that the Pelican adapters are discontinued. Has anyone seen any on eBay or somewhere else? I should have gotten a few of these when I had the chance.

[CSS]

hey everyone, i just got my hrap2 today and the buttons are a little loose, is this normal?

[EvilSamurai]

hey everyone, i just got my hrap2 today and the buttons are a little loose, is this normal?

yeah the Hori knock off buttons are loose and suck. If you put Sanwa buttons in, they will be loose but super sensitive. Seimitsu buttons are stiffer and less sensitive than Sanwa and you might like those.

Buttons in order from stiffest and least sensitive to softest and most sensitive

Happ Ultimates = hand rape and blisters

Happ Concave button with horizontal microswitches = no hand rape only blisters

Happ Competition (convex)= good button. starting here, all buttons good. I like these better than Sanwas for moves like Chun's lightning legs. Sanwas better for all purpose mashing though. These buttons are insanely durable though.

Crown (Korean) buttons= never used them before( only Saulabi knockoffs). supposed to be inbetween Happ and Seimitsu buttons

Seimitsu= I like these alot. The only problem is that they seem less durable than Sanwas and Happ (the button itself, not the microswitch). Screw ins also feel better IMO than snap ins for some reason. Screw in seimitsus are probably my favorite button to use. I just don't like to have then installed on MY stick as they seem less durable to me.

Sanwa= the gold standard of buttons. Super sensitive and soft. I like these for everything that does not involve hitting the same button multiple times such as Akuma's raging demon and Chun Li's lighting legs. For those kind of moves, I prefer Happ Competition buttons or Seimitsus. Sanwas are best for all purpose mashing like mashing out of certain combos in Marvel or out of grab throws in ST.

[CSS]

yeah the Hori knock off buttons are loose and suck. If you put Sanwa buttons in, they will be loose but super sensitive. Seimitsu buttons are stiffer and less sensitive than Sanwa and you might like those.

Buttons in order from stiffest and least sensitive to softest and most sensitive

Happ Ultimates = hand rape and blisters

Happ Concave button with horizontal microswitches = no hand rape only blisters

Happ Competition (convex)= good button. starting here, all buttons good. I like these better than Sanwas for moves like Chun's lightning legs. Sanwas better for all purpose mashing though. These buttons are insanely durable though.

Crown (Korean) buttons= never used them before( only Saulabi knockoffs). supposed to be inbetween Happ and Seimitsu buttons

Seimitsu= I like these alot. The only problem is that they seem less durable than Sanwas and Happ (the button itself, not the microswitch). Screw ins also feel better IMO than snap ins for some reason. Screw in seimitsus are probably my favorite button to use. I just don't like to have then installed on MY stick as they seem less durable to me.

Sanwa= the gold standard of buttons. Super sensitive and soft. I like these for everything that does not involve hitting the same button multiple times such as Akuma's raging demon and Chun Li's lighting legs. For those kind of moves, I prefer Happ Competition buttons or Seimitsus. Sanwas are best for all purpose mashing like mashing out of certain combos in Marvel or out of grab throws in ST.

guess i'll just have to mod it when i get some more cash

thanks for the info :tup:

[DAWOLF57]

I'm not sure if my stick was listed in the original page, I have a ps3 hori says fighting stick 3 on the front. Any way I was thinking about making some changes to it, here's what I have in mind:

-swap out the stick for a happ perfect 360 electronic joystick, saw it at lizardlick I don't how good that stick is or if its compatible though.

-Rearrange buttons from
L1 [] /\ R1
L2 X O R2 to

[] /\ L1 L2
X O R1 R2

-replace buttons with happ competition buttons

-Possibly add a ps2 adapter.

If anyone has any info on this that would be helpful. thx

[DeepThoughts]

The fighting stick pro is a separate stick from the hrap series; I'm not sure how to go about modding it with happ parts. I've heard bad things about the newer 360s...

The default button mapping for street fighter games does not use the L1 and L2 buttons, so your new layout would require going into options to change the configuration.

If your stick has a usb connection, it won't work on ps2; you'll have to replace the pcb.

[TingBoy]

I'm not sure if my stick was listed in the original page, I have a ps3 hori says fighting stick 3 on the front. Any way I was thinking about making some changes to it, here's what I have in mind:

-swap out the stick for a happ perfect 360 electronic joystick, saw it at lizardlick I don't how good that stick is or if its compatible though.

-Rearrange buttons from
L1 [] /\ R1
L2 X O R2 to

[] /\ L1 L2
X O R1 R2

-replace buttons with happ competition buttons

-Possibly add a ps2 adapter.

If anyone has any info on this that would be helpful. thx

You won't be able to fit a Happ 360 or Competition buttons into the tiny case of a Hori Fighting Stick 3. However, you can rearrange the buttons with wires and you can mod it with Sanwa parts with a bit of work.

[Dencore]

What are some PS3 to PS2 converters?

Or does it matter what the " " to " " is as long as both are on there I can just flip them over?

[B&B]

There aren't any ps3 to ps2 converters, but if you mean ps2 to ps3 converters, then I'd recommend finding a pelican converter.

[Dencore]

Could I get a PS3 that plays my PS2 games without lag?

Also does the PS3 fighting stick work with PC since it's USB?

[EvilSamurai]

I think I may have to retract all the hate I have put on the Sanwa JLF's square gate. I finally started playing with one today and already like it more than the octagonal, which in comparision feels like an unholy abomination.

[lw3]

I think I may have to retract all the hate I have put on the Sanwa JLF's square gate. I finally started playing with one today and already like it more than the octagonal, which in comparision feels like an unholy abomination.
I was thinking about tryin an octagonal gate. I have no problems with the square gate. what was so bad about the octagon?

[EvilSamurai]

I was thinking about tryin an octagonal gate. I have no problems with the square gate. what was so bad about the octagon?

It just does not really fit the stick. The throw becomes too long, the stick will "bounce" and activate the opposite microswitch, the corners are not as smooth as the square gate, etc. The square gate on the JLF is just better than the octagonal. You will just be wasting $5 if you are already comfortable with the square one. I think the main reason Sanwa makes an octagonal one is so that American players like myself who are used to Happ joysticks can have a stepping stone/training wheels when switching over to Japanese sticks. In comparision, the circular gate for the JLW feels much more natural than the octagonal one for the JLF.

[DAWOLF57]

Ok so what parts do you guys reccomend for this or what layout would be best? I dont like the stickon it becuase its to loose and the buttons just feel cheap.

[EvilSamurai]

Ok so what parts do you guys reccomend for this or what layout would be best? I dont like the stickon it becuase its to loose and the buttons just feel cheap.

Are you talking about a Hori Real Arcade Pro stick or a Hori Fighting stick?

The Hori Fighting Stick line uses shitty knockoff parts that feel like shit and rape your hands. It is moddable but difficult. You should search SRK for threads on how to mod it (if they exist).

If it is a Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 and you think the stock Sanwa JLF joystick is too loose, then put in a Seimitsu LS-32-01 (this is only possible on a HRAP2. On a HRAP 3, you can put in only Sanwa JLF sticks). The stock buttons are shit, so you should replace the six leftmost buttons with Sanwa or Seimitsu snap in ones and plug up the two rightmost buttons so that you will have an actual arcade perfect, Astro City layout. I would also replace the start and select buttons with Sanwa or Seimitsu buttons as the yellow buttons look ugly. Remember to wrap the quick disconnects from the two rightmost buttons in electrical tape and tape them down to hte inside of the case as you don't want any funny shit happening. You should keep hte button mappings the way they came with the stick as that is the standard layout for fighters (without the rightmost buttons of course)

If you have a Hori Real Arcade Pro 1, then do all the things listed in the above thread (you can't put a Seimitsu in the non mirror plated HRAP1s though) except you should either mod (they don't get in the way like the extra buttons on a HRAP2 or 3) or plug up the leftmost buttons in order to keep a real, player 2 Astro City layout.

[Dencore]

Does the PS3 Fighting Stick work with PC since it's USB, could someone please answer me this question?

(I know in the FAQ it says the Pro does but this is the regular version)

[EvilSamurai]

Does the PS3 Fighting Stick work with PC since it's USB, could someone please answer me this question?

(I know in the FAQ it says the Pro does but this is the regular version)

Wrong thread. Use the search button next time. There are multiple threads on PC compatibility for that piece of shit. Ok on to explanation.

PC compatibility is problematic with the Hori Fighting Stick 3. The best thing to do is buy a Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 or Virtua Stick High Grade. If you cannot afford those, then save up as they will last you much longer and work much better than the shitty Fighting Stick. If you already bought a Fighting Stick 3, then you are screwed and should probably buy a HRAP3 or VSHG anyway.

[TingBoy]

Does the PS3 Fighting Stick work with PC since it's USB, could someone please answer me this question?

(I know in the FAQ it says the Pro does but this is the regular version)

The answer to this is very inconsistent. For some, it worked perfectly fine. Others had to use joy2key or xpadder. For another group of people, it totally failed.

[Ruben]

I ordered an HRAP3 on Monday from Play Asia but its status has been on "preparing order" for 5 days. Grrr. I sent them a couple of emails but got no reply. Did this happen to any of you guys? They seem like a reliable online shop...

[Dencore]

Wrong thread. Use the search button next time. There are multiple threads on PC compatibility for that piece of shit. Ok on to explanation.

PC compatibility is problematic with the Hori Fighting Stick 3. The best thing to do is buy a Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 or Virtua Stick High Grade. If you cannot afford those, then save up as they will last you much longer and work much better than the shitty Fighting Stick. If you already bought a Fighting Stick 3, then you are screwed and should probably buy a HRAP3 or VSHG anyway.

Thank you. :angel:

[DAWOLF57]

I have a fightng stick 3, so I'm guessing I probably shouldn't even bother modding it.

[TingBoy]

I have a fightng stick 3, so I'm guessing I probably shouldn't even bother modding it.

You can mod it with Sanwa parts, but it'll take a bit more effort than the Real Arcade Pro series.

[EvilSamurai]

Can I put a JLW into a HRAP2?

[opips2]

Can I put a JLW into a HRAP2?

I never heard that who try modding into a HRAP 2? JLW is good for a build custom box or arcade cabinet.

Don't do it that modding on joystick. ( made me laugh) :rofl:

[Nashville_Ninja]

opips2..... so do you mean you can not put a JLW in a HRAP2 or you wouldn't personally?

[opips2]

opips2..... so do you mean you can not put a JLW in a HRAP2 or you wouldn't personally?

I mean, doesn't put a JLW in a HRAP 2.
JLW is longer shaft 40 mm. It's look ugly! a HRAP2 is fancy case.
I think not good idea. If you want to sell it but hard to sell there who interesting to modding JLW in a HRAP2?

JLF and any Seimitsu are best stick in a HRAP2. peroid it !

[vxnine]

I ordered an HRAP3 on Monday from Play Asia but its status has been on "preparing order" for 5 days. Grrr. I sent them a couple of emails but got no reply. Did this happen to any of you guys? They seem like a reliable online shop...

i got mine in 2 days.

"preparing order" could be their way of saying somethings backordered--i hope it isn't though. :sweat:

[PaRt2]

I want to swap out the case on a HRAP2 for a black case. I know a HRAP3 case would fit it but would a T5 case fit aswell? Also, it shouldn't be that hard to swap out one stick into another case, correct?

I basically want an all black Seimitsu to offset my all white Sanwa and I probably wont be buying anymore sticks for awhile.

[DeepThoughts]

I want to swap out the case on a HRAP2 for a black case.

I think the bottom (plastic) cases of the hrap2 and the T5 are identical, so it should work.

[yayayoo]

i wanna try that too. just got my hrap 2. will i damage the design on the T5? or is a smooth switch? also, i would like to swap the buttons out and understand that snap ins are the best way?

[TingBoy]

i wanna try that too. just got my hrap 2. will i damage the design on the T5? or is a smooth switch? also, i would like to swap the buttons out and understand that snap ins are the best way?

No, yes and yes, although, if you're going to put snap-ins in the T5 plate, you need to file/grind down the metal tabs int he holes.

[yayayoo]

No, yes and yes, although, if you're going to put snap-ins in the T5 plate, you need to file/grind down the metal tabs int he holes.

Which holes? Would i be grnsing the stick-base or just the buttons?

[DeepThoughts]

Just so there's no misunderstanding, you can replace the buttons on the hrap2 with sanwa buttons by just popping out the old and popping in the new. On the T5 stick, however, there are metal anti-rotation tabs that don't allow sanwa buttons to fit (snap-in or screw).

[TingBoy]

Which holes? Would i be grnsing the stick-base or just the buttons?

Buttons

[yayayoo]

Buttons

ok. So Its as easy as placing the top and components into the base? So ill end up with a white t5 and a black hrap. Thanks guys.

[Shinkuu Tatsumaki]

Just so there's no misunderstanding, you can replace the buttons on the hrap2 with sanwa buttons by just popping out the old and popping in the new. On the T5 stick, however, there are metal anti-rotation tabs that don't allow sanwa buttons to fit (snap-in or screw).

So that's where the extra labor comes into play. Is it easily removable though? Like, you don't need to be a genius at this stuff to file it down or whatever like some have said?

I was thinking about just buying a prewired pcb+joystick and then just removing all the T5 innards and replacing it. Would that work? I read somewhere the joystick holes are aligned differently from a hrap so I'd have to do some more work on it. I wish there were pictures... The ones on that himura site are all down.

[DeepThoughts]

No, leave the innards. A sanwa JLF will go in there fine. You just have to drill four 2mm holes through the restrictor gate. And you can get around the tab problem by swapping just the button switches with sanwa ones while leaving the hori button casings in there.

[Kitsune707]

Is there any way to use a HRAP3 with the dreamcast except swapping out the whole PCB?

[hadouking]

are there any sites that still sell hrap 2's? i can't find them anywhere.

[DeepThoughts]

Yeah, there are still some (new) on ebay.

[Segatashiro]

Is it possible to install a Seimitsu LS-40
without any extended modifications on the HRAP2/3?

[BigBryan]

over 70,000 views and this isnt stickied? also* you should also change www.akihabarashop.com to www.akihabarashop.jp (one of the dealers for sanwa/seimitsu parts)... i thought it was a non-working link until a friend sent me the .jp one...

[TingBoy]

over 70,000 views and this isnt stickied? almost you should also change www.akihabarashop.com to www.akihabarashop.jp (one of the dealers for sanwa/seimitsu parts)... i thought it was a none working link until a friend sent me the .jp one...

The link to this thread is in the essential thread, so it's not necessary to sticky it. If we stickied all of the good, informative threads in this forum, it'd cover about 2 pages.

[shoo]

The link to this thread is in the essential thread, so it's not necessary to sticky it. If we stickied all of the good, informative threads in this forum, it'd cover about 2 pages.

exactly

ty sir


ps: who's WE? :p

[erikstanton]

you are we :3

[BigBryan]

The link to this thread is in the essential thread, so it's not necessary to sticky it. If we stickied all of the good, informative threads in this forum, it'd cover about 2 pages.

ahh did not know that =P

[Twinniss]

Does anyone know if the LS-55-01 will fit on the wii hori?

[Fixt00l]

i just recently purchased the HRAP and i have found that the joystick is too sensitive for me. the 3rd strike arcade i play on has the baseball style top and is very firm. i believe the arcande is an american cabinet, but i'm not entirely sure. i was wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to the replace the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK with a joystick that is firm (like the 3s american cabinets) on the HRAP? if anyone can tell me the type of joystick 3s american cabinets have it would help me out a lot. thanks.

also the piece on the bottom of the Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK is rectangular and not circular (which im used too), any information on this would help as well.

I have successfully installed a HAPP COMPETITION stick (I didnt have the perfect 360 around) into the HRAP3:arazz: using the SANWA stick PCB.I drilled four holes and fastened the HAPP from inside the HRAP.It is a knockoff of HAPP, but I like it.

[ben]

Where can I buy a HRAP?:
- http://www.vgonetwork.com/


this page now redirects to here:
http://www.high-scoreonline.com/

has anyone bought from here? the updated site at least? the $99 no-shipping HRAP3 seems too good to be true. and I'd be much more comfortable with an actual formal checkout system rather than paypal-ing someone directly.

[Beoyans]

this page now redirects to here:
http://www.high-scoreonline.com/

has anyone bought from here? the updated site at least? the $99 no-shipping HRAP3 seems too good to be true. and I'd be much more comfortable with an actual formal checkout system rather than paypal-ing someone directly.

I "bought" 2 HRAP3s from them on March 3rd. I emailed them asking when it was going to be shipped, and I got a quick reply back that it would ship March 5th.

I called them on March 14th, they just said they would get back to me about my order and asked for my phone number.
Still no call back, I'm a tad worried.

[Nashville_Ninja]

why do people still buy from high-scoreonline. Alot of people neg them on this site as well.

[Beoyans]

Because $99 per HRAP3 shipped is a pretty awesome deal.
And, there seem to be a lot of people around SRK suggesting to buy it there, but I have noticed that anyone who has bought one was pretty pissed off at how long it took.

[ben]

well that's about all I need to hear. guess I'll spring a bit more for more reliable service.

[Imitrex]

Not sure if you saw this or not, but wow. Sounds a tad shady to me.

http://sdtekken.yuku.com/topic/470/t/Sticks-never-received.html

[[Roz]]

HRAP2 SA: http://www.hori.jp/items/detail.php?id=652

Anyone gonna order this one? Why isn't it on the first page?

[Imitrex]

;4933862']HRAP2 SA: http://www.hori.jp/items/detail.php?id=652

Anyone gonna order this one? Why isn't it on the first page?

Huh?

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=151350

[s1nnerman]

Noob question:
I've had a HRAP2 for 2 weeks now and still haven't figured out what the auto fire/turbo buttons in the top left corner are used for. Can anyone enlighten me? I bought the thing used, so no manual came with it. I browsed a bit on the net and even in here and haven't found anything.

[ChrisLionheart]

HRAP2, where can I find one now? I can't do the Akihabara Shop HRAP2 SA. Too expensive. Ebay got one, I probably not gonna win it. Is it seriously impossible to buy one?

[s1nnerman]

http://store.videogamecentral.com/ps2horiarcadestick.html
My friend got the hrap2 from this site less than a week ago. 129.99 + shipping.

[ulovemikeroch]

It just got placed on back order, I guess all the HRAP2's in america are gone now.

[ChrisLionheart]

I've looked at every single possible website. It is very very hard to find.

[vieja escuela]

Hrap 3 owners only: does the stick work on Linux?

[s1nnerman]

Hi there,

we sell HRAP2's for $149.99, yes we do ship, but these sticks are big, thanks

Gar



A & C Games
706 Spadina Avenue
Toronto, ON
M5S 2J2
416-923-3066
www.acgamesonline.com
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2258250666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSVNh5ACSM

Rediscover Rare & Vintage Games

Just received this e-mail from an address I e-mailed from facebook. Pretty expensive though.

[stretch]

Sorry, if this question has been answered, but anybody know if it's possible to replace the HRAP3 stick with a Sanwa JLW-UM-8 Bat Handle Joystick?

[Imitrex]

I have read a plethora of threads, and didn't really see any type of debate or statements upon the answer to this question....Albeit rather broad...

For those that own both custom made sticks, and a HRAP, which do you like better and why? I am having a hard time convincing myself to buy a HRAP, when I can just make my own stick. But I have never played on a HRAP. Only a Hori Fighting Stick.

Is the appeal of a HRAP due to its rarity?

[EvilSamurai]

I have read a plethora of threads, and didn't really see any type of debate or statements upon the answer to this question....Albeit rather broad...

For those that own both custom made sticks, and a HRAP, which do you like better and why? I am having a hard time convincing myself to buy a HRAP, when I can just make my own stick. But I have never played on a HRAP. Only a Hori Fighting Stick.

Is the appeal of a HRAP due to its rarity?

HRAPs are simply the best stock joystick for Japanese parts. They are also very easy to modify. Think of them as the MAS of Japanese parts.

[Imitrex]

Hrm, ok. Once again, I claim ignorance, since I have never really seen a MAS either. I stepped out of this atomic bomb shelter after 14 years, and all this info is in quite abundance.

So, in comparing a home made box containing a JLF-TP-8, and all Sanwa buttons, along with a hacked DS1 compared to the new HRAP coming out, which would you choose?

Reason I am asking, is I really am in the air on my next decision on which way to go for another project. Make a new stick, or get a HRAP, heh.

Thanks for the reply, EvilSamurai.

[EvilSamurai]

Hrm, ok. Once again, I claim ignorance, since I have never really seen a MAS either. I stepped out of this atomic bomb shelter after 14 years, and all this info is in quite abundance.

So, in comparing a home made box containing a JLF-TP-8, and all Sanwa buttons, along with a hacked DS1 compared to the new HRAP coming out, which would you choose?

Reason I am asking, is I really am in the air on my next decision on which way to go for another project. Make a new stick, or get a HRAP, heh.

Thanks for the reply, EvilSamurai.

It depends. Even if the home made box has everything made to the right specifications (Astro City button layout, correct distance between joystick and buttons, routed so that you can correctly mount both a Sanwa JLF and a Seimitsu LS-32), I would probably choose the HRAP due to its metal control panel.

[Imitrex]

Thank you sir.

[Nashville_Ninja]

Yes, evil samurai is right, metal control panel and modding is super easy.

[Imitrex]

Gotcha. Now, everyone head on over, and let's get this pre-order for the new HRAP under way! :smile:

[Hail And Kill]

sorry if this has been asked -

I'm thinking of modding an hrap1b(flat top - no mirror), with a semitsu stick. is this possible without any huge modifications? I saw Fubarducks post about modding an HRAP2, but im not sure if its essentially the same...If it is possible, is there a guide?

thanks
-gene

[ChrisLionheart]

Just received this e-mail from an address I e-mailed from facebook. Pretty expensive though.

Ya, that is kinda expensive... damn, holy shit why is it so hard to find one now?

[s1nnerman]

You can try searching in forums, there's always people selling them. I got mine from http://www.neo-geo.com/forums from a guy called gleason. I payed 200$ (40 bucks for shipping) but it was fully modded with sanwa buttons and an octagonal gate. It's expensive but I got tired of waiting and searching. But, tell me, how much are you willing to pay? I found some people before that were selling the HRAP2 for cheaper but didn't ship to Canada.

[ChrisLionheart]

150 is the most reasonably high price i'd be willing to pay.

Just received this e-mail from an address I e-mailed from facebook. Pretty expensive though.

You can try searching in forums, there's always people selling them. I got mine from http://www.neo-geo.com/forums from a guy called gleason. I payed 200$ (40 bucks for shipping) but it was fully modded with sanwa buttons and an octagonal gate. It's expensive but I got tired of waiting and searching. But, tell me, how much are you willing to pay? I found some people before that were selling the HRAP2 for cheaper but didn't ship to Canada.

[s1nnerman]

Noob question:
I've had a HRAP2 for 2 weeks now and still haven't figured out what the auto fire/turbo buttons in the top left corner are used for. Can anyone enlighten me? I bought the thing used, so no manual came with it. I browsed a bit on the net and even in here and haven't found anything.

No one answered me yet... I'm guessing no one gives a shit about these buttons? lol

ChrisLionHeart : Call VideoGameCentral at (718) 323-1515 and order the HRAP2 by phone. It's 129.99 + shipping which will probably be around 150.

[ChrisLionheart]

it says sold out online...

[TingBoy]

sorry if this has been asked -

I'm thinking of modding an hrap1b(flat top - no mirror), with a semitsu stick. is this possible without any huge modifications? I saw Fubarducks post about modding an HRAP2, but im not sure if its essentially the same...If it is possible, is there a guide?

thanks
-gene

IIRC, the HRAP1vb uses a different mounting plate than the HRAP2 and HRAP1va. You won't be able to put in a Seimitsu LS-32 without heavy modification. Some people have added wood or some sort of masonry to mount the stick.

No one answered me yet... I'm guessing no one gives a shit about these buttons? lol

ChrisLionHeart : Call VideoGameCentral at (718) 323-1515 and order the HRAP2 by phone. It's 129.99 + shipping which will probably be around 150.

They are exactly what you say they are: autofire/turbo switches.
The first switch on the left is for the start button. The rest is for the corresponding button. Putting the switch on the middle position turns the corresponding button into a turbo button (when you press the button, it presses rapidly ingame). Putting the switch in the top position makes the corresponding button act as if its pressed down all the time w/ turbo. It'll just rapidly go off ingame without having the press the corresponding button.

The reason why people didn't really respond to you is that you REALLY just could've taken 5 minutes of your time to figure this out in the training mode of a fighting game.

[Imitrex]

Why is the HRAP 3 not as popular? Is it due to the lack of being able to put an LS-32 in it?

[s1nnerman]

Ahh thanks TingBoy. But I didn't really notice a difference when I was just randomly ticking them so I wasn't sure what they were used for :S.
Chris, they were in stock less than a week ago, call them to see if they're getting new shipments. On their site, it's written "Back ordered" so I'm guessing they ordered more?!
they put this on youtube 2 months ago which means they still have access to these sticks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GhftXSfK_Qo

[ChrisLionheart]

damn, the thing is the hrap2 is discontinued in the US now. (I was just a bit late) And their hrap2 sa won't be selling to the US (except through akihabarashop for 200 dollars). Man... really rotten luck.

[rockmanjoey]

Hi I am new to the forums!

I was checking this thread out after I just ordered a HRAP 3. If I chose to modify the buttons which button make does it accept?

I am a serious Arcade n00b when it comes to modifying sticks, I just had enough of controllers and want to play fighting games the proper and arcade way!

[Imitrex]

Seimitsu or Sanwa 30mm

[Renz0]

Ahh thanks TingBoy. But I didn't really notice a difference when I was just randomly ticking them so I wasn't sure what they were used for :S.
Chris, they were in stock less than a week ago, call them to see if they're getting new shipments. On their site, it's written "Back ordered" so I'm guessing they ordered more?!
they put this on youtube 2 months ago which means they still have access to these sticks:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GhftXSfK_Qo


I just got the last HRAP2 from VideoGameCentral last week. I asked them if they had more than one when I ordered and they said no. Don't know if they are getting more, but for 160 shipped NIB, I doubt it.

[tl613]

So HRAP2's are officially out of print now? I got one with a defect from VideoGameAction.com and sent it back and they keep telling me to wait for their next shipment. I asked if they were really getting one and they keep saying Hori is delaying it. I don't know what else to do other than wait because they are refusing to give me back my money and there isn't anything on their site I want to buy :mad:

[ulovemikeroch]

It depends. Even if the home made box has everything made to the right specifications (Astro City button layout, correct distance between joystick and buttons, routed so that you can correctly mount both a Sanwa JLF and a Seimitsu LS-32), I would probably choose the HRAP due to its metal control panel.
How does the metal control panel make it better? Cause it's easier to pull out/lighter and it's just one layer? As opposed to many other homemades having a layer of plexi and some sort of backing?

[s1nnerman]

There will always be HRAP2 sticks for sale. It just depends how much you're willing to pay for them. There's a modded hrap2 on eBay right now by the way.

[rockmanjoey]

Seimitsu or Sanwa 30mm

Thanks very much, that answers my questions! When the time comes I will do so!

N00b question again, any instructions how to do so?

[Imitrex]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132472

[rockmanjoey]

Thanks for your help again Imitrex! All set! Cheers!:wgrin:

[IGGI]

Just making sure, an HRAP 3 will definitely work for the PC right?

It's not like the HFS 3, where you can use it for the PC but only if you're lucky (and only after digging through the entire internet for drivers)? I need a super guarantee here. I hate returning stuff I bought online, and with the HRAP 3 I'll be $100 under in shipping charges if it doesn't work. Even if it's not exactly plug and play, I want to at least know that there are drivers out there that are guaranteed to work (for Windows XP 32-bit).

Help much appreciated.

[Tetsuosan]

How does the metal control panel make it better? Cause it's easier to pull out/lighter and it's just one layer? As opposed to many other homemades having a layer of plexi and some sort of backing?

I would say because it's as accurate as you can get to an astro city cab without owning one.

[whooisodis]

Sorry if this is out of topic but since you guys have good knowledge of joysticks, i have a tekken 5 hori stick (UNmodded) and i use a ps2 to usb adapter and i wanted to know why i can't kara grab /kara. I can only do it 10% of the time when its quite strange that at the arcade with happ buttons i can kara grab and itll come out 90% of the time, is it the adapter or buttons that prevents me from executing this more often? I tried the search button guys but the key words kara-ps2 stick is too wide, any help would be appreciated

[TingBoy]

Sorry if this is out of topic but since you guys have good knowledge of joysticks, i have a tekken 5 hori stick (UNmodded) and i use a ps2 to usb adapter and i wanted to know why i can't kara grab /kara. I can only do it 10% of the time when its quite strange that at the arcade with happ buttons i can kara grab and itll come out 90% of the time, is it the adapter or buttons that prevents me from executing this more often? I tried the search button guys but the key words kara-ps2 stick is too wide, any help would be appreciated

Unless your converter is crappy (lags/can't read multiple presses/etc), its either an execution problem, or the timing for mame is a bit off for you. IIRC, MAME runs 3s slightly slower than the arcades. Just sit there and practice.

[Stier]

i was wondering i bought a US T5 Stick at a local swap meet for like 20 bucks, i wantedto know if you can take out the PCB and replace it with a PS1 wired PCB

[TingBoy]

i was wondering i bought a US T5 Stick at a local swap meet for like 20 bucks, i wantedto know if you can take out the PCB and replace it with a PS1 wired PCB

Yes sir, but why? The T5 PCB is pretty good. I haven't had any troubles with it yet. Works fine with my converters too.

[Stier]

Yes sir, but why? The T5 PCB is pretty good. I haven't had any troubles with it yet. Works fine with my converters too.

cause i want to mod the buttons and i'm too lazy to put the T5 PCB back on :smokin:

[ulovemikeroch]

Just making sure, an HRAP 3 will definitely work for the PC right?

It's not like the HFS 3, where you can use it for the PC but only if you're lucky (and only after digging through the entire internet for drivers)? I need a super guarantee here. I hate returning stuff I bought online, and with the HRAP 3 I'll be $100 under in shipping charges if it doesn't work. Even if it's not exactly plug and play, I want to at least know that there are drivers out there that are guaranteed to work (for Windows XP 32-bit).

Help much appreciated.
Pretty sure it will work no problems. If anything you'd have to use the Ps3 Controller drives or Joy2key or whatever and I highly doubt that. In fact when you plug it in it should say like, "Hori Real Arcade Pro 3/Hori Arcade" or something along those lines and it might even register under the ps3 controller.

[STI]

Hello, i am new to the forum and this is my first post & a question ^_^

Is it possible to change the Sanwa Joystick in HRAP 3 for a seimitsu LS-32-01?

[Imitrex]

The first post explains quite a bit.

HRAP 3:
- For PlayStation 3 and PC
- USB wired
- Will be released on the same day as VF5 in Japan (February 8th, 2007)
- Retails for 8,379円
- Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK
- Hori Buttons
- Uses quickdisconnects
- Turbo Button with three level settings: Slow, Normal, Fast
- PlayStation Button to bring up the XMB
- The HRAP has a switch that emulates at any given time either: the digital pad(default), Left analog, or right analog
- Mesh top
- Black/Metallic colour scheme
- Button layout is Japanese arcade cabinet layout
- Button placement:
[] /\ R1 L1
X O R2 L2
- The mounting area is altered like the HRAP1B, so no go with the LS-32.
- Pic:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...213/hori02.jpg

[P4RA]

Hello, i am new to the forum and this is my first post & a question ^_^

Is it possible to change the Sanwa Joystick in HRAP 3 for a seimitsu LS-32-01?

yes it is, but not with a LS-32

[P4RA]

Maybe a stupid question to some of you, but I can't decide what colors for buttons and balltop would be the most stylish for a hrap3 because the faceplate isn't really black.

-Buttons I want are Seimitsu PS-14-G or PS-14-K, can't choose either
-Joystick is a Seimitsu LS-32-01, with or without LS-39 bubble ball

I was thinking white, green or orange for buttons/balltop and black for start/select

Your opinion?

[Imitrex]

Hah. I just got the same orange/black combo you are thinking about, with the PS-14-KN's and bubble top. Unfortunately, still waiting on the HRAP to arrive to put them in.

The coloring is a little different between the bubble tops and buttons for some reason. If you want an exact match, go with the solid colors. What I may end up doing, is getting some fake carbon fiber looking paper to match the panel, or solid black, and putting them in the button tops to darken the over all scheme of the buttons. The white on the top tends to make the shades look different.

[STI]

Maybe a stupid question to some of you, but I can't decide what colors for buttons and balltop would be the most stylish for a hrap3 because the faceplate isn't really black.

-Buttons I want are Seimitsu PS-14-G or PS-14-K, can't choose either
-Joystick is a Seimitsu LS-32-01, with or without LS-39 bubble ball

I was thinking white, green or orange for buttons/balltop and black for start/select

Your opinion?

Not a stupid but a hard question, because the default color scheme is a good one already but if you have to change it then try this one; for the start and select buttons PS-14-D 24mm - blue/black. for the buttons PS-14-K 30mm DaiDai color, and finally for the balltop choose LB-39 blue or orange.

[P4RA]

Thanks for your opinions, I think I'm gonna get a green LS-32-01 and an extra white bubble balltop, for 30mm buttons I'm gonna get green and white PS-14-K-N's. I only have 1 more question: are the Dark Hai start/select buttons on the new HRAP2SA going sold seperatly like the 30mm?

[Imitrex]

Unfortunately, they are not available. Info obtained in this thread
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=151350

I saw this, very nice.
I wonder if those 24mm buttons are Sanwa (they were not before I think).

EDIT: According to Hori it IS OBSF-24 :), that means we have a new color :D!

Question to Sanwa:
Do you sell OBSF-24 black/dark hai or is it for Hori only?

Answer:
It's for HORI only. Hori ordered 10000pcs as special order.

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[A.C]

i tried searching this thread... but couldn't find the answer to my question:

does the HRAP3 pcb have a common ground? i want to construct a PS3/360 controller (ala the VSHG mods)... and a common ground is pretty much required.

thanks!

[TingBoy]

HRAP2s and T5s are common ground, so I would assume that HRAP3s are, but don't take my word for it.

[madgrab]

Tested my new hrap3 w/ my G5 powermac (Leopard) works perfect.


Here are the specs it shows in the system profiler:

REAL ARCADE PRO.3:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: HORI CO.,LTD.

[alphastet]

Hey does the HRAP 3 play ps2 fighters 100%? (when played on a ps3 of course) I gave a quick scan through this thread and didnt find the answer. I read something about it needing a firmware update for the ps2 games to play right?

[DeepThoughts]

Since it's intended for ps3, it should work as well as any ps3 controller (I would think).

Edit: After searching a bit it seems that backwards compatibility does require a firmware update, shows what I know.

[alphastet]

:D well thanks for the confirmation, all this controller nonsense is confusing.

[aznretro]

Do the Sanwa JLF-TP-8T and JLF-TP-8YT fit in the HRAP3?

From what i can see (with my newbie knowledge of stick modding) they r similar to the LS32's so they wont fit in the hrap3. I just need a confirmation with that.

[TingBoy]

HRAP3's already come with Sanwa JLFs stock, so yes, they fit.

[aznretro]

Im also wondering about on the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK that comes with the HRAP3.

Im thinking of puttiing in white sanwa buttons and a white jlf stick.

Im wondering if the ball of the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK can be changed to white one or do i have to buy a whole new stick with a white ball?

If that sentence made any sense to u.

[EvilSamurai]

^
Yeah, you just put a flathead screwdriver into the slot at the bottom of the stick, unscrew the ball top, and screw the new one back on. You also will want snap in Sanwa buttons as screwins will not fit.

[Indy]

Im also wondering about on the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK that comes with the HRAP3.

Im thinking of puttiing in white sanwa buttons and a white jlf stick.

Im wondering if the ball of the stock Sanwa JLF-TP-8Y-SK can be changed to white one or do i have to buy a whole new stick with a white ball?

If that sentence made any sense to u.

You don't need to buy a new stick. Lizardlick has the ball tops for sale, once you get one just do as Evilsamurai instructed and you're good to go.

[aznretro]

Ive tried screws in and they worked fine on the Hrap3. I have red OBSN30s in there but realized i want new buttons to make it look better. :lovin: Thanks for all the help peeps. saved me 30 dollars right there.

[Twinniss]

okay this is probably a stupid question but just wanna make sure

for any horis with buttons soldered onto pcb, can you just replace just the pcb(keeping the buttons), or do you have to replace the buttons as well

[deadfrog]

^ ^ ^
Noooo problem, dude! I asked a billion stupid questions when I started learning. People are super-nice here. (I'm still learning too so I still ask a lot of stupid questions.) :smile:

You don't need to replace the buttons. They're just a plastic bezel and plunger, with a spring, and a switch that closes the circuit when the button is depressed.

I don't remember if the Hori buttons have terminals to accept .110 female quick disconnects. If they do, just make sure you get all the solder off of them and the disconnects should slip on just fine.

If they don't, you'll need to solder new wires onto the buttons. Those wires can go directly to the new PCB, but better yet they can be very short and end with .110 male quick disconnects that plug into female ones attached to more wire soldered onto the new PCB.

Unless you're working with a tight budget though, I'd recommend swapping out the buttons for Sanwa ones while you're at it. You'll thank yourself!

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The OP is getting to be pretty out-of-date. I PM'ed Superking a cheat sheet of sorts with all the new info worth changing/adding so he can update it without having to research himsef, but I think he's MIA for now.

[Twinniss]

Thanks

Yeah, im working with a tight budget, thinking bout just getting a wii hori(lol they're about $40 last time i checked a gamestop), then swap the pcb of that with a ps1 pad

my current stix is crap gotta get a new one

[Superking]

Updated the first post finally. lol

[JAMMAR]

In the last note for original HRAP2, it doesn't specify which type of screw-in (Sanwa/Seimitsu) won't fit in. I think it's pretty much confirmed you can't use Sanwa, but I'm not sure about Seimitsu. Can anyone confirm?

[Tetsuosan]

^ The screw-ins for Seimitsu work and the Sanwa ones work as well it's just that one of the screw-ins won't be on tight.

Here's the Seimitsu for a T5 mod. The spacing for the buttons is the same as a RAP2
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/S5030366.jpg
Here's the same stick with Sanwa screw-ins see the last one isn't on as tight. This is the exact reason as to why I personally use snap-ins.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/V4MPIRO/Picture039.jpg

On a side note the Seimitsu screw-in nut is interchangeable with the Sanwa button. What I'm doing with my friend's mod is I'm using screw-ins for the first and last two buttons, and the middles buttons snap-ins. The only reason is he bought screw-ins and I had an extra two snap-ins. I want to see if there would be a huge differance between the two, but I don't think there will because it's the same microswitch.

[V4MPIRO]

Yeah, Don't even try with sanwas screw ins.

[Tetsuosan]

^ Damn bro I forgot to foot note you in..... I don't wanna get credit for your work sorry lol.

[V4MPIRO]

^ Damn bro I forgot to foot note you in..... I don't wanna get credit for your work sorry lol.

no big deal, is all about to help each others.

[CrimsonDisaster]

I opened up Latif's Arcana Heart stick (his balltop was unscrewed somehow and he couldn't get it back on from the outside) and it certainly doesn't look like anything is on quick disconnects to me. I'm no expert but it looked like the buttons were just sitting on (and soldered to?) the PCB. No camera or I would have taken pics for someone to analyze.

[lw3]

So HRAP2's are officially out of print now? I got one with a defect from VideoGameAction.com and sent it back and they keep telling me to wait for their next shipment. I asked if they were really getting one and they keep saying Hori is delaying it. I don't know what else to do other than wait because they are refusing to give me back my money and there isn't anything on their site I want to buy :mad:

I also wonder if hrap2's are still being produced. i just got enough money to buy one. It wouldnt make any since to stop since the ps2 is still getting fighters.

[PaRt2]

Don't know if anyone saw this Post from the HRAP2 SA Thread: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5051970&postcount=415

Basically, you can vote for the new color scheme for the HRAP and the HRAP3 that will be for sale (exclusively?) through Amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp) in July. Voting period is from - April 21, 2008 (Monday) 0:00 to April 27, 2008 (Sunday) 23:59 (Japan) (arrival time).

Here's the (best) translated text I could find: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.jp%2Fgp%2Ff eature.html%2Fref%3Damb_link_53670606_1%3Fie%3DUTF 8%26docId%3D1000143246%26pf_rd_m%3DAN1VRQENFRJN5%2 6pf_rd_s%3Dcenter-1%26pf_rd_r%3D168KHM61EE3WBA6B0E3H%26pf_rd_t%3D101 %26pf_rd_p%3D93705106%26pf_rd_i%3D637394&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=EN&ie=UTF-8

[aznretro]

Do any of u peeps have tried to put in a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in a HRAP3? I seem to be unable to screw it in cause i dont even know where to start.

[EvilSamurai]

Do any of u peeps have tried to put in a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in a HRAP3? I seem to be unable to screw it in cause i dont even know where to start.

You can't put one an LS-32 in. You can however put an LS-56 in.

[deadfrog]

Don't know if anyone saw this Post from the HRAP2 SA Thread: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5051970&postcount=415

Basically, you can vote for the new color scheme for the HRAP and the HRAP3 that will be for sale (exclusively?) through Amazon.co.jp (http://www.amazon.co.jp) in July. Voting period is from - April 21, 2008 (Monday) 0:00 to April 27, 2008 (Sunday) 23:59 (Japan) (arrival time).

Here's the (best) translated text I could find: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.jp%2Fgp%2Ff eature.html%2Fref%3Damb_link_53670606_1%3Fie%3DUTF 8%26docId%3D1000143246%26pf_rd_m%3DAN1VRQENFRJN5%2 6pf_rd_s%3Dcenter-1%26pf_rd_r%3D168KHM61EE3WBA6B0E3H%26pf_rd_t%3D101 %26pf_rd_p%3D93705106%26pf_rd_i%3D637394&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=EN&ie=UTF-8

PS3: Definitely the white stick/buttons one: it makes the entire colour scheme feel well-coordinated. Having the white case just looks gross to me otherwise.

PS2: The orange one, but only because the black turbo switch spot looks bad with the white case. While I'm on it, does anyone actually prefer the HRAP1 layout over the HRAP2?!!

[maxx mana]

So this may be a noob question, but has anyone tried ordering an HRAP through amazon.co.jp?

From what they have in English on their site, it looks like most items can be bought and shipped to other countries, but I know that this isn't always the case unless you go through someone like play-asia, ncsx, or TRNG's shop.

Just curious, their price on hrap3's seems pretty nice...

[EvilSamurai]

How would I put an LS-40 into a HRAP2? Same way as an LS-32?

[lukass64]

Hori this hori that. I have no idea which stick I should be focusing on. I want to just get a good stick (no modding involved) which one should I get? What's so special about the HRAP 2 SA? I just want a stick that'll last me a long time.
I'm going japan sometime this summer so I'm wondering what I should get.
Thanks in advance.

[TingBoy]

Hori this hori that. I have no idea which stick I should be focusing on. I want to just get a good stick (no modding involved) which one should I get? What's so special about the HRAP 2 SA? I just want a stick that'll last me a long time.
I'm going japan sometime this summer so I'm wondering what I should get.
Thanks in advance.

I highly suggest you do some research before you buy a stick, otherwise you might end up wasting money.

[lukass64]

I highly suggest you do some research before you buy a stick, otherwise you might end up wasting money.

Okay I'll make the question more simpler. Should I get a HRAP 2 SA or regular HRAP 2. I'm just wondering what that $30-$40 difference is.

I've looked into sticks. All I know is that there's Japanese sticks and American style sticks. I'm going to go with Japanese sticks since they are cheaper. I'll be going to Japan so saving that shipping money would be cheaper. I'm not too experienced with using a joystick so I'm going to grab one and get good at that.

[Superking]

What's shaking true believers?

[ramza]

Okay I'll make the question more simpler. Should I get a HRAP 2 SA or regular HRAP 2. I'm just wondering what that $30-$40 difference is.


the buttons. the buttons are worth it completely though, they make hard things easy to do because of their sensitivity, you'll be able to notice that in an instant. Everyone puts sanwa buttons in the regular hrap 2. If you're completely worried about the prices, its still up to you. All you need to put in sanwa screw in buttons($20) in a regular hrap 2 is a screwdriver, 7mm nut wrench, and pliers for the disconnects. Its completely fool proof. if you have the tools already then just get an hrap 2.

[STI]

Is the color for the push-buttons on HRAP3 RED or ORANGE?

[A.C]

red.

[EvilSamurai]

^
I thought it was Vermillion.

[STI]

If the buttons are red and they are from Hori then the ball top has to be from hori too, Sanwa' red is different it's deep red to be precise, so why can't hori match sanwa' colors or at least put the real red Sanwa ball top on JLF-TP-8Y-SK?!

[DeepThoughts]

The hrap 3 has vermilion colored buttons and balltop. That is, if you want to replace the hori buttons with sanwa ones that match the balltop, get vermilion ones

[frogg609]

Has anyone tried modding one of the PS2 T5 Hori sticks to be all Sanwa use for the 360? If so, any tutorials would be appreciated.

[A.C]

The hrap 3 has vermilion colored buttons and balltop. That is, if you want to replace the hori buttons with sanwa ones that match the balltop, get vermilion ones

ah makes sense - i guess. i'm holding the buttons in my hand, and to my naked eye they are "red." but i don't claim to know my colors beyond the 8 basic ones.

[STI]

Nevertheless it is still RED with a different degree of redness.

Vermillion is a a brilliant red pigment made from mercury sulfide (cinnabar).

a brilliant red color : a lateral stripe of vermilion | [as adj. ] vermilion streaks of sunset.

ORIGIN Middle English : from Old French vermeillon, from vermeil, from Latin vermiculus, diminutive of vermis ‘worm.’

[Imitrex]

To think of the information I would learn while researching HRAP's!

[TingBoy]

Has anyone tried modding one of the PS2 T5 Hori sticks to be all Sanwa use for the 360? If so, any tutorials would be appreciated.

There's a T5 mod thread somewhere here. Check the essential thread. Then, go hack a 360 pad and you're set

[STI]

I can't take Sanwa OBSF-30 from the HRAP3 after putting them in the panel without damaging them, will the same happen to HRAP2 SA? what is the cause of the problem?

[Tetsuosan]

^ how do you damage them? What I usually do is get a screw driver and push the tabs in and at the same time jimmy the button out.

[STI]

^ This is not the case with my HRAP3, i used force to put the buttons in, the tabs on each side of the buttons have nothing to do with keeping the button from rotating. To force the button in from above is much more easier than to do it below the button, i didn't expect such a thing!

[A.C]

I can't take Sanwa OBSF-30 from the HRAP3 after putting them in the panel without damaging them, will the same happen to HRAP2 SA? what is the cause of the problem?

I have replaced my HRAP3 buttons with PS-14-K Seimitsu buttons... and I agree the fit is very tight. The new buttons' diameter are at least 1mm larger than the stock buttons. However my locking tabs did engage. Nor would I consider the Seimitsu's "damaged" despite the interference fit.

STI, I think you should be able to remove them - but it may require patience and/or strength. Just make sure you decompress the locking tabs first - even if you think they haven't engaged.

[STI]

A.C, I tried again but couldn't, it is just too tight. OBSF-24 select button looks awkward to me, it's plunger is to the far right, i couldn't remove the whole button so popped out the plunger tried to see what is the problem but couldn't figure it out. i guess i have to remove the micro-switches from the button in order to remove it from the panel. This is the only possible way.

[Spark2310]

I couldn't find if this has been asked before and couldn't find it in the FAQ, but where would you go to get an extra PSX cord for the HRAP2? Mine is starting to tear from being wrapped around the stick to much.

[STI]

You shouldn't handle the wire like this, if it still works then you don't have to replace it and if it does not, i think you can replace it with DUALSHOCK 2 wire.

[TingBoy]

I couldn't find if this has been asked before and couldn't find it in the FAQ, but where would you go to get an extra PSX cord for the HRAP2? Mine is starting to tear from being wrapped around the stick to much.

Easiest way to do it is the replace it with another HRAP2/HRAP1/T5 cord. With the PSX cord, you'll need to splice the wires, and at that point, it'd be better off just to cut off the torn section and splice the two pieces of cord.

[frogg609]

There's a T5 mod thread somewhere here. Check the essential thread. Then, go hack a 360 pad and you're set

Do you have a link for this mod? Search fails me almost every time, and looking through backlogs isn't helping. I also didn't see a link in the essential thread.

I found an old tutorial on Himura's site, but all the images are gone.

thanks

[centennial]

Here
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=153627

[darkhiryuu]

So since I have a HRAP1 ver. B and I can't fit a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in it, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on another similar sized Seimitsu joystick that could be mounted in there.

[EvilSamurai]

So since I have a HRAP1 ver. B and I can't fit a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in it, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on another similar sized Seimitsu joystick that could be mounted in there.

Seimitsu LS-55-01 or LS-56-01. The LS-56-01 is a better joystick as the LS-55 is just a taller LS-33 w/stiffer spring. What works for sticks mounted directly below the control panel (no/hardly any gap) does not work for larger ones mounted with space between the control panel and the start of the joystick shaft (the JLF, LS-55, LS-56, and some versions of the JLW. The joysticks mounted as close as possible to the control panel are the LS-32, LS-33, LS-40, and some versions of the JLW.)

[Patmaster]

I am just wondering if Hori really just put OBSF30 Buts in the HRAP2SA instead of RGs like in the HRAP1SA... :looney:

[TheRealNeoGeo]

I am just wondering if Hori really just put OBSF30 Buts in the HRAP2SA instead of RGs like in the HRAP1SA... :looney:

HRAP1:SA: OBSF-30RG
HRAP2:SA: OBSF-30

Maybe because when (if) they release the HRAP2:SE they can´t use the Seimitsu GX buttons anymore (not made anymore) thus going back to the regular OBSF-30 for the Sanwa also.

[Nashville_Ninja]

TRNG: Is that an official prediction?

[MarkMan]

The preorder prices for the Amazon Japan edition HRAP sticks are pretty good:

Amazon JP HRAP 1 (PS2) - Price: ￥ 6,766 (Tax Included)
Amazon JP HRAP 3 (PS3) - Price: ￥ 6,766 (Tax Included)

By today's conversion rate of 1 USD = 102.825 JPY, the cost of one unit shipped to a Japanese address would be 6,766.00 JPY = 65.8011 USD

They both also qualify for free shipping within Japan. So whichever shop stocks/sells these they'll get em for a better price, and that means better prices for all! Yay!

If you want to know what the sticks look like, check here:

http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade...amazon-jp-ps2/ (http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/hori-real-arcade-pro-amazon-jp-ps2/)

http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade...amazon-jp-ps3/ (http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/hori-real-arcade-pro-3-amazon-jp-ps3/)

TRNG: Is Akihabara Shop going to stock these? ^_^

[SinJul]

wow! Those look really amazing :D

I'll think about getting the HRAP1:rofl:

[TheRealNeoGeo]

TRNG: Is that an official prediction?

That is a personal belief ^_^.


The preorder prices for the Amazon Japan edition HRAP sticks are pretty good:

Amazon JP HRAP 1 (PS2) - Price: ￥ 6,766 (Tax Included)
Amazon JP HRAP 3 (PS3) - Price: ￥ 6,766 (Tax Included)

By today's conversion rate of 1 USD = 102.825 JPY, the cost of one unit shipped to a Japanese address would be 6,766.00 JPY = 65.8011 USD

They both also qualify for free shipping within Japan. So whichever shop stocks/sells these they'll get em for a better price, and that means better prices for all! Yay!

If you want to know what the sticks look like, check here:

http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade...amazon-jp-ps2/ (http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/hori-real-arcade-pro-amazon-jp-ps2/)

http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade...amazon-jp-ps3/ (http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/hori-real-arcade-pro-3-amazon-jp-ps3/)

TRNG: Is Akihabara Shop going to stock these? ^_^

We can take pre-orders beginning of next week I think...

[will976]

is the hrap 3 the same faux carbon fiber as before ??

[STI]

Of course the same, why would they change it for something better and reduce it's price too?

[EvilSamurai]

Will the HRAP1 have the mirror control panel with the LS-32 compatible mounting plate?

[STI]

^ Probably, no one can tell for sure until one gets the stick and see for himself, but it is likely to be as you said ^_^.

[EvilSamurai]

Will the HRAP2:SE use screwin or snapin Seimitsu buttons as it is a universal consensus that screwin Seimitsus feel much better.

[opips2]

Will the HRAP2:SE use screwin or snapin Seimitsu buttons as it is a universal consensus that screwin Seimitsus feel much better.


you're right damn! We know shit! lol.....after I use prefer that screwin seimitsu buttons. I'm not sure about screwin Sanwa button is better?? lol

[EvilSamurai]

you're right damn! We know shit! lol.....after I use prefer that screwin seimitsu buttons. I'm not sure about screwin Sanwa button is better?? lol

Snap-in and screw-in Sanwa buttons feel the same to me. Just use the one that fits your project better.

[lukass64]

the buttons. the buttons are worth it completely though, they make hard things easy to do because of their sensitivity, you'll be able to notice that in an instant. Everyone puts sanwa buttons in the regular hrap 2. If you're completely worried about the prices, its still up to you. All you need to put in sanwa screw in buttons($20) in a regular hrap 2 is a screwdriver, 7mm nut wrench, and pliers for the disconnects. Its completely fool proof. if you have the tools already then just get an hrap 2.

Thanks a million, I'll be getting the HRAP2 SA. I'll get into modding when "school" is no longer a part of my life.

[STI]

Will the HRAP2:SE use screwin or snapin Seimitsu buttons as it is a universal consensus that screwin Seimitsus feel much better.

Let me see a glimpse of the future ... Yup, I see it! :rofl:

1- HRAP2:SE will come out five months from now!

2- It will use Seimitsu LS-32-01 & PS-14-G snap-in buttons with black trim.

3- The color scheme will be Black, Yellow & Red.

4- You will have one :tup:

Seimitsu's screw-in are trying desperately to be like Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons and they suck big in comparison. So if there is HRAP2:SE, it will never ever use such buttons even if you like them.

[deadfrog]

Hey guys, I was hoping for a little help/info from anyone who has ever dissassembled a HRAP3.

What is the HRAP3 control panel made out of? Can its layers be separated from one another?
I heard something about carbon fibre. Does that mean there's no plexi? Is the art part of the carbon fibre? Does the carbon fiber detach from the metal?

(I have taken apart a HRAP2: its control panel is made up of the metal plate, the art, and the plexi top surface... all unified into one inseparable sheet. This is what I was expecting for the HRAP3.)

I just received a HRAP3 case (no stick, buttons, PCB, or cord) that I bought online, and it only included the bare metal plate for the top: the rest of it is missing. I messaged the guy to see if he still has the rest or if it's been destroyed or if I misunderstood or what. I'm bewildered and sad, and I just wanted to check what I'm supposed to have.

Thanks sooo much in advance for any and all help!!

[STI]

^Yup, there is no plexi on HRAP3 and when i compare the face plate on HRAP3 with HRAP2:SA it is just crap really. Plexi on SA is way better.

HRAP3 from the inside i think it is identical to HRAP2 the only difference is that HRAP3 has a USB cord and works with PS3 & PC and maybe the PCB is the same on HRAP3 as HRAP2 maybe i really don't know. So since you have HRAP2 already you can think the same about HRAP3 and instead of PS2 cord there is USB.

Don't tell me the guy you ordered the stick from is in the forum too ^_^

[deadfrog]

Thanks for the answer, man. To clarify, buying only the case was the whole point. (He is supposed to keep the stick, buttons, PCB, and cord.)

I just want to know how on earth he got that pretty black-checkered graphic surface (which I don't have) off of the top metal plate (which I do have). There are some gummy marks left on it like it was pried and scraped off of it or something. Are they completely separate entities from one another or did he probably ruin it trying to separate them?

[STI]

Are they completely separate entities from one another or did he probably ruin it trying to separate them?

I have a strong believe that they are almost like two pieces attached together but they can be separated if done right, i think he used a sharp knife or something that is very sharp and edgy and maybe some heat to separate them perfectly. to tell you the truth it is too risky to be done by hands alone. you can tell the man is perfectionist indeed.

The top surface he took is just a big overlay sticker and shouldn't be a big deal really and maybe you can build your own too.

After all, it is not the whole stick you ordered. ^_^

[deadfrog]

Hooo boy that sucks, yeah it's what I was afraid of. Silly as it sounds, I wouldn't have bought it if I had known! Thanks again, dude.

EDIT: I still feel a little dumb about buying it but this makes me feel muchos happier! v v v

[Imitrex]

imo, the top "sticker" or vinyl on the HRAP 3 was and is trash. I received one brand new, and the fake carbon fiber looked awful due to random air bubbles throughout the panel. Had I not modded and sold it, I would have replaced the vinyl in a heartbeat.

[Fixt00l]

Is there any way to put HAPP buttons into the HRAP 3?I totally hate the SANWA ones, I swapped them for the stock buttons.I will also put a Perfect 360 stick, as the Competition one I put in was a knockoff.

[EvilSamurai]

imo, the top "sticker" or vinyl on the HRAP 3 was and is trash. I received one brand new, and the fake carbon fiber looked awful due to random air bubbles throughout the panel. Had I not modded and sold it, I would have replaced the vinyl in a heartbeat.

The overlays on the PS2 HRAP sticks are much better than the one on the HRAP3. I think the easiest solution would be to just take off the shitty carbon fiber thing and put on your own custom vinyl sticker.

Is there any way to put HAPP buttons into the HRAP 3?I totally hate the SANWA ones, I swapped them for the stock buttons.I will also put a Perfect 360 stick, as the Competition one I put in was a knockoff.

Nope, but I think that you would like Seimitsu screw-in buttons much better than the Sanwa ones. You may have to sand the nut on the lk button vertically but otherwise they should fit. Also, you may not like the Happ Perfect 360 stick. Their quality has greatly declined since Wico made them.