.Metal.

[goodm0urning]

Rumor has it Mustaine banned someone from the Megadeth forums because that someone stated he was against Christianity.This would not surprise me at all. He bans people from his forums for a lot of ridiculous reasons, the most frequent one being when people either disagree with him about anything or say something at all negative about anything Megadeth has ever done. He also kicks people out of the backstage area for drinking and/or being drunk.

He is a brilliant guitarist. He also made a few unassailable classic metal albums in his day. But he is also one of the biggest shitheads of heavy metal.

[TheSix]

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Maybe I shouldn't tell you that they played "Ashes in Your Mouth" last night...


But they did.


My humblest apologies.

Ain't this a bitch....they sure did. We got Mechanix...but I would have taken Ashes over that.

This would not surprise me at all. He bans people from his forums for a lot of ridiculous reasons, the most frequent one being when people either disagree with him about anything or say something at all negative about anything Megadeth has ever done.

I've been on the 'Deth forums forever and this is straight up BS.

[goodm0urning]

I've been on the 'Deth forums forever and this is straight up BS.If you think it's BS, then you really have no idea what goes on. I'm not the only person who has been banned from that place for voicing an absolutely innocuous opinion.

[Gasp]

got the new Insect Warfare "World Extermination" LP I'm not feeling it as much as the old stuff because im not the HUGEST fan of them switching to a professional trigger using deathmetal drummer.

shits still fucking GNARLY as shit.


http://www.myspace.com/insectwarfare

ps listen to Mind Ripper its the most apt title for a track ever.

[Gasp]

ho shit


"Mike Amott, the former Carcass guitarist, has announced that the band may reform for a tour.

In an exclusive interview with Close-Up Magazine, Amott said that he and guitarist/vocalist Bill Steer secretly met in Sweden last year to rehearse old Carcass material. They were later joined by vocalist/bassist Jeff Walker for another practice session, with Daniel Erlandsson (from Arch Enemy) playing drums for these rehearsals.

The original plan was for Carcass to play several festival shows this summer, but that fell through and now Amott hopes that the band will do some reunion shows at a later date. It is possible that drummer Ken Owen, who suffered a brain haemorrhage in 1999, will be present for these shows."


http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=81674
i'm gonna have a heart attack.

[krost]

^--
holy shit! :OOO

anybody like agalloch/old katatonia? i like listening to them in autumn

[Gasp]

agalloch
*bows*

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Agalloch is indeed sweet. "The Lodge" is my favorite track by them.


I have a bunch of Katatonia discs but have never gotten around to listening to them. Rarely in the mood for the calmer stuff, and when I am, I go with what I know. Some folks should recommend their favorite Katatonia tracks. I have Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day, Viva Emptiness, Discouraged Ones, and a couple EPs. Someone let me know.


Note: I found out a couple weeks ago that Lord Gore broke up. Not cool. Should have seen them with Impaled a couple summers ago when I had the chance. They put out two simply bad-fucking-ass full lengths. Check them out if you haven't already.

The Autophagous Orgy
Resickened

You owe it to yourselves.


EDIT: Carcass reunion = dream, until I realize that they will probably pull the new typical reunion shit and play one show in L.A. and one at BB Kings in N.Y. aka I still will never see them

[goodm0urning]

Anybody else like Swano's solo album, Moontower? If you don't, you probably haven't heard it.

[NegroNinja]

Damn someone beat me to the carcass news x.x last I heard it was just a rumor or something that Amott was kicking around with the guys..

With the reunions being such a big thing with bands from that era lately, I wonder if all that 'maybe someday talk' that Cavalera's been doing about a Sepultura reunion, isn't too far fetched...cause I wanna see somma this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SV5OuH6VbE) at least once before I die!

..now if only Entombed can find their way back to the States!

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Left Hand Path > every top release of every other genre of music ever




And yes, I am just lurking around on the metal thread at 2:30 am.





Listen to Insidious Decrepancy.

[Gorehound]

I saw Black Sabbath w/ Dio(Heaven and Hell) a few months back during the Reunion Tour, and after all these years they still sound great. Dio's voice hasn't really deteriorated over the years(unlike Ozzy), as for the Dio solo albums, i've only heard the first 2 albums(Holy Diver/Last in Line) which were pretty good, i dont know if their really power metal, i'd consider them straight forward Heavy Metal.

Its best show i've ever been to opening bands where Machine Head, and Megadeth!:rock:

Nice, I'll be seeing them this Sat 10/6 with Alice Cooper and Queensryche opening, and my tickets are literally right in front of the stage :bgrin:

Agalloch is indeed sweet. "The Lodge" is my favorite track by them.


I have a bunch of Katatonia discs but have never gotten around to listening to them. Rarely in the mood for the calmer stuff, and when I am, I go with what I know. Some folks should recommend their favorite Katatonia tracks. I have Dance of December Souls, Brave Murder Day, Viva Emptiness, Discouraged Ones, and a couple EPs. Someone let me know.


Note: I found out a couple weeks ago that Lord Gore broke up. Not cool. Should have seen them with Impaled a couple summers ago when I had the chance. They put out two simply bad-fucking-ass full lengths. Check them out if you haven't already.

The Autophagous Orgy
Resickened

You owe it to yourselves.


EDIT: Carcass reunion = dream, until I realize that they will probably pull the new typical reunion shit and play one show in L.A. and one at BB Kings in N.Y. aka I still will never see them

Did you say Lord Gore
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/gurge.jpg


I almost had the opportunity to see Lord Gore live in 05 at the local venue, but work got in the way, now I really regret not going :sad:

You guys should also check out an awesome as fuck band called GHOUL, they put on awesome live sets and their music kick so much ass!!
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/theghoulshow047lr1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02118Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02133Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02132Small.jpg

Disney got more gayer than they already are because they banned all metal shows from the House of Blues in Anaheim because of its on Disney property :lame:

So what's going to happen to the King Diamond show next year!!!!

You NY should check out Possessed next year, its Jeff with Sadistic Intent, and I love Possessed and Sadistic Intent!!

[Razorfist]

Anyone else going to the big King Diamond tour coming up? I can't f-ckin' wait. The new album (as with everything by the King) absolutely rips, and I have yet to see his live show.

[Gasp]

You guys should also check out an awesome as fuck band called GHOUL, they put on awesome live sets and their music kick so much ass!!
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/theghoulshow047lr1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02118Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02133Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02132Small.jpg


i endorse this statement 120%

[Etcetera]

You NY should check out Possessed next year, its Jeff with Sadistic Intent, and I love Possessed and Sadistic Intent!!
I saw them about a month or two ago. Awesome show, but the turn out was really low, probably like 50 people i think. Little disappointed in one aspect, but the intimate setting was cool.
During the opening bands, Jeff was hanging out with the audience... and he didn't let some stupid wheelchair stop him from joining the pit.

[pherai]

Anybody else like Swano's solo album, Moontower? If you don't, you probably haven't heard it.

This is one of my favorite albums of all time. Seriously this shit kicks too much ass. I've been listening to it heavily for 2+ years and I'm still stoked on it. I wish he'd put out a followup in the same style.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Nice, I'll be seeing them this Sat 10/6 with Alice Cooper and Queensryche opening, and my tickets are literally right in front of the stage :bgrin:



Did you say Lord Gore
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/gurge.jpg


I almost had the opportunity to see Lord Gore live in 05 at the local venue, but work got in the way, now I really regret not going :sad:

You guys should also check out an awesome as fuck band called GHOUL, they put on awesome live sets and their music kick so much ass!!
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/theghoulshow047lr1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02118Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02133Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02132Small.jpg

Disney got more gayer than they already are because they banned all metal shows from the House of Blues in Anaheim because of its on Disney property :lame:

So what's going to happen to the King Diamond show next year!!!!

You NY should check out Possessed next year, its Jeff with Sadistic Intent, and I love Possessed and Sadistic Intent!!




Ghoul is indeed awesome. Some of you guys have great taste. If you like Lord Gore, check out Whore, a couple of the same members as Lord Gore had. Its more thrashy, shorter songs, but still some real heavy riffs. Tough to describe. Fun to listen to though.

King Diamond is going to be touring with Kreator, which is so good it might not even be fair. I haven't seen either of them, so it will mark a historical night for me personally.

God I love metal.



Listen to General Surgery

[goodm0urning]

This is one of my favorite albums of all time. Seriously this shit kicks too much ass. I've been listening to it heavily for 2+ years and I'm still stoked on it. I wish he'd put out a followup in the same style.It's so good. It's such a weird blend of elements, but it works perfectly. Swano's songwriting skills are tops.

[Gorehound]

I saw them about a month or two ago. Awesome show, but the turn out was really low, probably like 50 people i think. Little disappointed in one aspect, but the intimate setting was cool.
During the opening bands, Jeff was hanging out with the audience... and he didn't let some stupid wheelchair stop him from joining the pit.

That sucks, when they performed at the Gathering of the Bestial Legion, there was a great turn out and the whole audience went absolutely insane :bgrin:

I still hate it when people talk shit on Jeff for not having the original lineup and being in a wheelchair, he didn't look like he was bored onstage, he was still fucking awesome with Sadistic Intent backing him up :tup:

Plus, he can never get the original line up back because they went to Primus and Les Claypool, and the other members now talk shit on Possessed!

Ghoul is indeed awesome. Some of you guys have great taste. If you like Lord Gore, check out Whore, a couple of the same members as Lord Gore had. Its more thrashy, shorter songs, but still some real heavy riffs. Tough to describe. Fun to listen to though.

King Diamond is going to be touring with Kreator, which is so good it might not even be fair. I haven't seen either of them, so it will mark a historical night for me personally.

God I love metal.



Listen to General Surgery

I noticed that too recently, great taste in music here :tup:

I haven't heard of Whore in a long time, I think I'll listen to them again one more time!

Thats why I was talking about Disney being gay, King Diamond and Kreator were suppose to play at the House of Blues in Anaheim, and now its cancelled :arazz:

[angelslayer13]

screw it I really liked dimmu borgirs new cd and wether or not there considered black metal dosent mean shit to me same goes for cof. yeah I see alot of 15 year old blond girls wearing their shirts but fuck it that dosent make damnation and a day any less of a great album. black metal cant have "melody" whatever.

[krost]

It's so good. It's such a weird blend of elements, but it works perfectly. Swano's songwriting skills are tops.

I went out and bought this album on a whim. It's fucking amazing!

Thanks to anyone who reccomended this!

[pherai]

It's so good. It's such a weird blend of elements, but it works perfectly. Swano's songwriting skills are tops.

You can hear a lot of varying influences in it, but the melodies are incredible and stick with you. He also writes really great counter melodies and bass lines that give some impressive depth to all the songs.

To krost, I'm green with envy knowing you are just starting to listen to this album. Glad you're enjoying it.


screw it I really liked dimmu borgirs new cd and wether or not there considered black metal dosent mean shit to me same goes for cof. yeah I see alot of 15 year old blond girls wearing their shirts but fuck it that dosent make damnation and a day any less of a great album. black metal cant have "melody" whatever.

I try not to judge peoples musical tastes, because its such a subjective subject, but to claim black metal can't have melody, whatever that means, is stupid. A lack of melody is what makes a lot of black metal shallow and boring. I suggest you check out Stormblast by Dimmu Borgir, or anything by Pagan Reign, and see if you still feel like goofy theatrics are what make black metal good.

[Azagtoth]

Holy shit this thread is still around?

I try not to judge peoples musical tastes, because its such a subjective subject, but to claim black metal can't have melody, whatever that means, is stupid. A lack of melody is what makes a lot of black metal shallow and boring. I suggest you check out Stormblast by Dimmu Borgir, or anything by Pagan Reign, and see if you still feel like goofy theatrics are what make black metal good.

While I completely understand what you're saying here, I don't see what the theatrics have to do with enjoying the music (unless you're referring to the theatrical quality of the music, which of course is subjective). Granted there are apparently bands who do that style of black metal better, and it's definitely not a defining attribute of black metal as a whole but whatever. If anything, it's a good gateway to stuff like Emperor and Anorexia Nervosa; the latter of which I constantly hear recommended to people who like newer Dimmu, though it doesn't have the same charm IMO.

For the record, I like newer Dimmu (particularly Enthrone and onward), but the only Cradle I could ever get into was Midian (solid album, if anything at all).

Anyone here into folk stuff? I've been on a huge Moonsorrow/Arkona kick lately.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Holy shit this thread is still around?



While I completely understand what you're saying here, I don't see what the theatrics have to do with enjoying the music (unless you're referring to the theatrical quality of the music, which of course is subjective). Granted there are apparently bands who do that style of black metal better, and it's definitely not a defining attribute of black metal as a whole but whatever. If anything, it's a good gateway to stuff like Emperor and Anorexia Nervosa; the latter of which I constantly hear recommended to people who like newer Dimmu, though it doesn't have the same charm IMO.

For the record, I like newer Dimmu (particularly Enthrone and onward), but the only Cradle I could ever get into was Midian (solid album, if anything at all).

Anyone here into folk stuff? I've been on a huge Moonsorrow/Arkona kick lately.


Falkenbach owns my soul.

[pherai]

While I completely understand what you're saying here, I don't see what the theatrics have to do with enjoying the music (unless you're referring to the theatrical quality of the music, which of course is subjective). Granted there are apparently bands who do that style of black metal better, and it's definitely not a defining attribute of black metal as a whole but whatever. If anything, it's a good gateway to stuff like Emperor and Anorexia Nervosa; the latter of which I constantly hear recommended to people who like newer Dimmu, though it doesn't have the same charm IMO.

For the record, I like newer Dimmu (particularly Enthrone and onward), but the only Cradle I could ever get into was Midian (solid album, if anything at all).

Anyone here into folk stuff? I've been on a huge Moonsorrow/Arkona kick lately.

That was my point, that theatrics have nothing to do with what makes good black metal good, but thats what makes bad black metal sell. Dimmu Borgir and Cradle essential introduce a label, but the similarities between them and Emperor end there. Ask a 'black metal' fan who only listens to Dimmu Borgir and Cradle what are the defining aspects of black metal as a genre, and I'll bet that can't come up with an explanation that doesn't include corpse paint or spikes.

Cradle, when you strip out the stupid synthy shit, is just rehashed Maiden with blast beats, but rehashed Maiden isn't that bad. The synthy shit is though.

Lastly, Moonsorrow is great, although I need to like make an appointment to listen to them. Fucking long ass songs man.

[Episode_667]

This week is going to be crazy for me in regards to CD purchases. I picked up the new Amorphis over the weekend (very good), and later this week 3 other releases I'm looking forward to will be arriving:
- new Nightwish
- new Alchemist (pre-ordered through Amazon)
- new Sybreed (pre-ordered through record company)

I've heard a couple of songs from the new Nightwish and it seems like a good continuation of "Once" (which I really liked). Haven't heard any of the new Alchemist but I have 110% faith in the band to deliver something exceptional, the last two discs (Organasm and Austral Alien) were phenomenal. Downloaded the new Sybreed even though I have it pre-ordered, and I'm really impressed. I'd say it's better than their debut, which I already think pretty highly of.

[angelslayer13]

yeah you guys really know your metal sweet! I love old dimmu "dodsferd" is one of my favorite songs to play when im bored. yeah the corpse paint and all that stuff isnt what drew me in I just really liked the change of pace from all the blast beats and garbled riffs I just wanted something that wasnt played at an extremely high bpm and still sound gnarly.

as far as cof..... yeah I can see how the maiden influence but cradle has never had a bassist as good steve harris no one will ever sound as good as steve for me (phantom of the opera FTW)

yeah checked out some of the bands you fuys were talking about fucking lord gore is the shit too bad I found out about them AFTER they broke up.

[Gorehound]

That was my point, that theatrics have nothing to do with what makes good black metal good, but thats what makes bad black metal sell. Dimmu Borgir and Cradle essential introduce a label, but the similarities between them and Emperor end there. Ask a 'black metal' fan who only listens to Dimmu Borgir and Cradle what are the defining aspects of black metal as a genre, and I'll bet that can't come up with an explanation that doesn't include corpse paint or spikes.

Cradle, when you strip out the stupid synthy shit, is just rehashed Maiden with blast beats, but rehashed Maiden isn't that bad. The synthy shit is though.

Lastly, Moonsorrow is great, although I need to like make an appointment to listen to them. Fucking long ass songs man.

I listen to a lot of Black Metal bands that don't even do the whole Spike and Corpse paint thing like Grand Belial's Key. lol and thats true about that black metal fan that only listens to Dimmu Borgir and Cradle and even Cradle themselves said they are not Black Metal!

One thing I love about Black Metal, the underground that is, its that it keeps the PC people away:rofl:

I do listen to folk metal bands like Moonsorrow, Temnozor, Drudkh, and many others :tup:

[angelslayer13]

say now that were on the topic of black metal would you consider deicide black metal? mostly I consider anything satanic as black metal.

[pherai]

say now that were on the topic of black metal would you consider deicide black metal? mostly I consider anything satanic as black metal.

To be brief, no.

But I won't be brief. Trying to use lyrical content as criteria, or worse, the most important criteria for determining what genre a band falls into is kind of pointless. 99% of the time you can't understand what the hell they are saying anyway. Think of what characterizes some of the great black metal bands: Gloomy atmosphere, romantic melodies, and aggressive undertones. Bands like Marduk and Mayhem kind of miss the mark, and because of that are mostly forgettable.

To loop back a bit, there are lots of bands that deal with satanic subject matter that sound nothing like black metal. It's just too broad of a generalization, and doesn't serve much purpose. Imo, the purpose of genres is to be able to know before listening to a band that they will resemble another band you like in sound. I guess if all you like is lyrics about satan, then that definition works, but I personally don't care about lyrics.

[angelslayer13]

I see, I dont really stray too far from what I know so it leaves me very limited as far as genre knowhow. mostly I just say I listen to metal wether its cannibal corpse or metallica, but the genre I want to get most into is black metal but aside from the mainstream stuff like emperor I really dont have a clue. Ill read some past posts to find some new bands.

oh and thanks for the help

[pherai]

Don't feel in over your head or anything. I think a lot of metal fans don't know what they like, they just like what they like. I'm sure if you list some stuff you like right now, people could make some suggestions. My brother just turned me on to Skeletonwitch, who are pretty rad.

[Azagtoth]

That was my point

Oh, nevermind then. =P

People who don't actually get into the genre will make such statements; not much we can do outside of ignoring some of them and making recommendations to those who will listen.

Lastly, Moonsorrow is great, although I need to like make an appointment to listen to them. Fucking long ass songs man.

That's pretty much my precise description of Havitetty. That album is just too fucking grandiose; it's not like I can rock a 30 minute song on my way to class or anything. :rofl:

[angelslayer13]

well lets see.. I like dimmu borgir, cradle of filth, deicide, cannibal corpse, metallica, slayer, rush, iron maiden, static-x, gwar, sepultura, soulfly, amon amarth, machine head, megadeth,lamb of god, dragonforce. these are bands I listen to everyday.

[t1337Dude]

I see, I dont really stray too far from what I know so it leaves me very limited as far as genre knowhow. mostly I just say I listen to metal wether its cannibal corpse or metallica, but the genre I want to get most into is black metal but aside from the mainstream stuff like emperor I really dont have a clue. Ill read some past posts to find some new bands.

oh and thanks for the help

Want to get get into Black Metal?

First of all, ditch Cannibal Corpse and CoF/Dimmu (same thing) because they will fuck with your tastes of black metal. They are kind of like the Green Day and Linkin Park of black metal. Second, go to www.anus.com/metal/hall to download all of the following albums using the search engine (just type in the band name). These are "samples" so you know what to you'd be buying instead of buying shit out of ignorance. I'll remove this if a moderator requirest.

Here's some starter black metal albums. Listen to them repeatedly and then work your way into better albums. Please be open minded. I've gone through all the sub-genres of metal and black metal is the most rewarding. You don't listen to it, you experience it.

Starters -

Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (Garbage Album, but it gives you a taste for black metal).

Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness

Summoning - Dol Guldur

Dimmu Borgir - Stormblast

Don't stay in this area too long. By the time you move onto more albums you should ditch EDT and Stormblast, but SoND and DG are keepers.

Experienced -

Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Immortal - Pure Holocaust

Graveland - Thousand Swords

Gorgoroth - Antichrist

Sacramentum - Far Away From the Sun

Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger


Every album in the above are masterpieces. Each and every single one of those. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is probably the greatest metal album to grace black metal. It started and ended black metal. Started it by creating further inspiration to other bands, and ended it by being the peak.

Extra Albums You Must Listen To -

Enslaved - Vikinglgr Veldi
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Graveland - The Celtic Winter
Immortal - Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism
Bathory - Blood, Fire, Death


I recommend everyone to experience some black metal and give it a serious try. The genre is very different from everything I've heard, and creates an atmosphere. Listen to the music in isolation for the first time, preferably before going to bed.

Nothing pisses me off more than ignorant people going "this isn't music it's just noise!" and "they are just screaming they arent talented at all", or even "its too low quality i cant hear any melody". Shallow-minded, every single one of them.

And my personal favorite black metal song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZcgMmxHxw. It was the first black metal song I got into, and is still my favorite today. The video isn't serious.

EDIT: This video did something for me too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8LpUEdpBI. Not too great, but it's good for beginners.

[krost]

another black metal album that i thought was great is Wolves in the Throne Room - Diadem of 12 Stars

[aznchristmas]

I do listen to folk metal bands like Moonsorrow, Temnozor, Drudkh, and many others :tup:

Moonsorrow and Drudkh? You have good taste in music. Drudkh is impossible to find, even online, but I pieced together all their separate albums. Forgotten Legends is one of the greatest albums ever.

I don't really dig Havitetty - it's not nearly as intense as Verisakeet or Kivenkantaja. While I'm on the subject, does anyone have the full album for Voimasta ja Kunniasta? PM me - I lost it when transferring music (only tracks 3 and 4).

Finntroll, in my opinion, is no longer any good. The new singer is better than Wilska, but it just doesn't sound like Finntroll anymore for some reason. Jaktens Tid and Midnattens Widunder dominated too hard for them to return.

Anyone like Windir? Or Thyrfing, Klabautamann, Uaral, Vinterland? Vinterland is getting back together after making one of the best albums ever. i also have Silencer (Nattramn), but it bothers me too much to listen to it.

Got any other suggestions?

PS Who the fuck gets into metal from watching Immortal videos? Who the fuck thinks Immortal videos are metal? That shit is like Harry Potter.

[Gasp]

Here's some starter black metal albums. Listen to them repeatedly and then work your way into better albums.


how many experience points does he need to listen to advanced albums?


i'd like to say three things.

1.)Listen to Ulver.

2.)Never talk about black metal. EVER. it's one of the most elitist metal genres ever
you're gonna get into arguments galore about stupid shit like "Why Dissection sucks." or "How can you say Dissection sucks when you like Reinkaos??"

3.) black metal is the primary genre to keep in mind that its tongue in cheek
70% of the people claiming to be grim aren't as grim as they seem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlKzlfqmzpQ)
usually a rule of thumb is unless they're from norway or some small as fuck country they probably don't burn churches.


I'd also like to recommend
Unlord - Lord of Beneath (fast)
Absu - Tara (fast)
Agalloch (slow/ambient)
Axis of Advance (fast)
Xasthur (slow/ambient)

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Thyrfing is alright, Drudkh and Temnozor are awesome. Never heard of Havitetty, Uaral, or Klabautamann. Windir is awesome, they incorporate some ridiculously atmospheric sounds into their stuff.

Ulver should be given the keys to the city, and I fucking love "The Somberlain" by Dissection. One of my favorite albums ever, I don't give a fuck what anyone says. One of my favorite lyrics ever

"And I laugh as I burn down the pearly gates of light."

Too badass.





Listen to Forest of Fog (more amazing folky/black metal)

[t1337Dude]

how many experience points does he need to listen to advanced albums?


i'd like to say three things.

1.)Listen to Ulver.

2.)Never talk about black metal. EVER. it's one of the most elitist metal genres ever
you're gonna get into arguments galore about stupid shit like "Why Dissection sucks." or "How can you say Dissection sucks when you like Reinkaos??"

3.) black metal is the primary genre to keep in mind that its tongue in cheek
70% of the people claiming to be grim aren't as grim as they seem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlKzlfqmzpQ)
usually a rule of thumb is unless they're from norway or some small as fuck country they probably don't burn churches.


I'd also like to recommend
Unlord - Lord of Beneath (fast)
Absu - Tara (fast)
Agalloch (slow/ambient)
Axis of Advance (fast)
Xasthur (slow/ambient)

No one gives a shit about grim kvlt trve shit, and even if they talk about it, they're just joking. There's nothing wrong with talking about black metal, it's just some people aren't capable of comprehending they their band is fucking shit compared to the standards of other bands. And you're not clever or funny. I'm sure you were born listening to Mutiilation...oh wait, you're probably too hip and cool to listen to it?

[goodm0urning]

God damn if I can't even spell most of this shit.

For a change of pace: who likes Primus?

[NegroNinja]

2.)Never talk about black metal. EVER. it's one of the most elitist metal genres ever
you're gonna get into arguments galore about stupid shit like "Why Dissection sucks." or "How can you say Dissection sucks when you like Reinkaos??"


Truer words were never spoken, hell you don't even have to be talking ABOUT black metal, you could just be talking to an elitist jerk who thinks he can compare Emperor to Pantera and say Emperor is better ( it's happened, I was there to witness it..I was also there to witness the guy get hit with a beer bottle cause he was talking out of his ass ). It's not BAD to talk about it, but I think you just have to keep a REALLY open mind if you're going to discuss black metal, not that every fan is going to try and 1up you with their knowledge of obscure band names and albums, but it is pretty common..or at least is in Norcal, but we're the music snob capital of the west coast so no surprise there.

There's nothing wrong with talking about black metal, it's just some people aren't capable of comprehending they their band is fucking shit compared to the standards of other bands.

Also true.

[pherai]

Never talk about black metal. EVER.


I guess you should have followed your own advice :sad:

[Gasp]

I guess you should have followed your own advice :sad:

EDIT:yea, you're right im not gonna deal with that name dropping idiot.

[Gorehound]

I still say the award for the most evilest sounding vocals in extreme metal goes to "IT" from Abruptum :tup:

All of you So Cal Los Angeles metal heads should visit a shop called Dark Realm Records, if you guys wanted to experience a shop similar to the Helvette shop owned by Euronymous of Mayhem, go there, and its owned by the Cortez brothers of the band Sadistic Intent who are a Death Metal band that started in 1987 and still is around today in the underground metal scene :tup:

Anybody here a fan of Impetigo, Death Metal bands owes their ASS to Impetigo for introducing movie sound clips at the start of the songs!!

[angelslayer13]

Want to get get into Black Metal?

First of all, ditch Cannibal Corpse and CoF/Dimmu (same thing) because they will fuck with your tastes of black metal. They are kind of like the Green Day and Linkin Park of black metal. Second, go to www.anus.com/metal/hall to download all of the following albums using the search engine (just type in the band name). These are "samples" so you know what to you'd be buying instead of buying shit out of ignorance. I'll remove this if a moderator requirest.

Here's some starter black metal albums. Listen to them repeatedly and then work your way into better albums. Please be open minded. I've gone through all the sub-genres of metal and black metal is the most rewarding. You don't listen to it, you experience it.

Starters -

Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (Garbage Album, but it gives you a taste for black metal).

Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness

Summoning - Dol Guldur

Dimmu Borgir - Stormblast

Don't stay in this area too long. By the time you move onto more albums you should ditch EDT and Stormblast, but SoND and DG are keepers.

Experienced -

Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Immortal - Pure Holocaust

Graveland - Thousand Swords

Gorgoroth - Antichrist

Sacramentum - Far Away From the Sun

Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger


Every album in the above are masterpieces. Each and every single one of those. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is probably the greatest metal album to grace black metal. It started and ended black metal. Started it by creating further inspiration to other bands, and ended it by being the peak.

Extra Albums You Must Listen To -

Enslaved - Vikinglgr Veldi
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Graveland - The Celtic Winter
Immortal - Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism
Bathory - Blood, Fire, Death


I recommend everyone to experience some black metal and give it a serious try. The genre is very different from everything I've heard, and creates an atmosphere. Listen to the music in isolation for the first time, preferably before going to bed.

Nothing pisses me off more than ignorant people going "this isn't music it's just noise!" and "they are just screaming they arent talented at all", or even "its too low quality i cant hear any melody". Shallow-minded, every single one of them.

And my personal favorite black metal song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZcgMmxHxw. It was the first black metal song I got into, and is still my favorite today. The video isn't serious.

EDIT: This video did something for me too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8LpUEdpBI. Not too great, but it's good for beginners.

wow sweet thanks apreciate it.

I dont know if I can stop listening corpse though I know there all mainstream and shit but cmon how is "stripped, raped, and strangled" not a good representation of death metal. oh well Ill take the advice except for the ditch the bands thing I just started learning "the smoke of her burning" cmon.

[angelslayer13]

just noticed a strange similarity between "under korpens vinger" and "the smoke of her burning" as far as the opening bass line goes.
here cradle:
-----------------------------------------------
------9--10--9----7-6-7--------------------
---7-------------------------------------------
5----------------------------------------------
heres dimmu
-----------------------------------------------
------9--10--9------------------------------
---7----------------8--10--8----------------
5----------------------------------------------

wow kind of a rip off. well the songs dont even sound alike atleast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymnyhiuyxcA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stOFwG-gFno

edit: watching stuff like this really turns me off from black metal.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfTFTTzn85c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGZmh2eo8g4

[OmegaX]

Black metal's okay. Not my favorite subgenre but I still listen to it on occasion, at least what I like anyway. Also just a quick sidenote, Cannibal Corpse is not black metal.



Anyway been thinking of picking up Divine Heresy for the longest but still kinda on the fence about it. Heard like 3 songs and thought it was pretty good, and the lineup also looks good. Anyone have the album.

[angelslayer13]

wait who said they were black metal?

anyway I really dont think I can like black metal more than death metal. oh well I like this change of pace. anyone here like job for a cowboy I just got the doom ep its ok I think entombent of a machine is my favorite song http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7YsZFksBQ
oh and then theres this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ue0kCn5YRE0

[Azagtoth]

Omega, long time no see!

I dont know if I can stop listening corpse though I know there all mainstream and shit but cmon how is "stripped, raped, and strangled" not a good representation of death metal. oh well Ill take the advice except for the ditch the bands thing I just started learning "the smoke of her burning" cmon.

Yeah dude, his band recommendations are mostly okay, but seriously don't ever listen to people who tell you to stop listening to bands because they'll "fuck with your tastes." That's seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard as an experienced metal fan.

Listen to whatever the fuck you want as long as you enjoy it. I have a very good idea of what "actual" black metal is, and I STILL like newer Dimmu. Wanting to try getting into black metal, or any other subgenre for that matter, does not mean you must abandon everything you like now. :rolleyes:

What he's trying to say is there are bands out there that do the same thing but "better," but that's really up to your interpretation of better (heavier, faster, more technical, better atmosphere, etc). Even so, theres nothing wrong with liking what you like. You may or may not grow out of the stuff you like now as you get deeper into metal, but either way, its fine.

Speaking of Corpse, if you haven't seen them live, you need to. They put on a damn good show live.

BTW, try Windir and Naglfar if you happen to like melody.

[let blood run]

new black dahlia murder cd is dope. pick it up.

[Gorehound]

FUCK!!!

All this talk about metal now makes want that new upcoming Graveland album really bad!!

I'm going to try to order the new LP vinyl from Rob Darken once it gets a release :tup:

Anyone seen Obituary live yet?
I thought they put on a great set, even though there wasn't a lot of people in the venue!

[OmegaX]

wait who said they were black metal?

I might of misinterpreted it but


First of all, ditch Cannibal Corpse and CoF/Dimmu (same thing) because they will fuck with your tastes of black metal. They are kind of like the Green Day and Linkin Park of black metal.





Omega, long time no see!

Yeah, haven't been keeping up with this thread like I should have.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Not sure if I asked this, or if it has been discussed already, but anyone pick up Nocturnal from TBDM? It's freaking great.

[Gasp]

Anyone seen Obituary live yet?
I thought they put on a great set, even though there wasn't a lot of people in the venue!

Saw em im April but they weren't too good. you could really tell the age got to em.

but i heard the show they just did was REALLY good.


im really pissed, apparently Edguys tonight and i cant make it cuz i got schoooooooooooooooooooooooool

[Dios <-X->]

d/l the latest 2 rhapsody cd's and Blind guardians latest cd. Good shit. ill have to purchase it down the line. too bad they are low stock on merchandise. i want a few t shirts that are out of stock on the website...... Christopher Lee on a rhapsody t shirt was too much lol.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Overkill is playing on Thursday near me but I am so sick right now I'll never be ready to go by then





WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY! FUCK YOU!

[pherai]

Christopher Lee on a rhapsody t shirt was too much lol.

I'd kill for one of those.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

First of all, ditch Cannibal Corpse and CoF/Dimmu (same thing) because they will fuck with your tastes of black metal....

They are NOT Black Metal, they are Death Metal, pretty damn good Death Metal at that. I agree on Cradle/Dimmu however. That's only for 14 year old goth kids who think they even know what Black Metal is.

[Azagtoth]

EDIT: Wheee nevermind.

Omega: I actually just found out this thread was still around like yesterday, so I'm in the same boat.

[Gorehound]

They are NOT Black Metal, they are Death Metal, pretty damn good Death Metal at that. I agree on Cradle/Dimmu however. That's only for 14 year old goth kids who think they even know what Black Metal is.

:rofl:

Yeah, Mallgoths are annoying as hell!!

I don't know why everyone hates Nunslaughter, they been around since 1987 and still haven't lost their Death Metal roots!!

[Azagtoth]

Yeah, Mallgoths are annoying as hell!!

This is true, but honestly what does that have to do with the bands themselves? Am I the only person in here who can judge a band without bringing into question it's fanbase?

I could understand if people were coming in saying "yeah, there are bands out there who do what Dimmu Borgir do better, such as Anorexia Nervosa, and yada yada," but all I'm hearing is "yeah mallgoths like them, so vicariously they suck." That's like me coming in here saying "yeah, Black Dahlia Murder fucking sucks. That shit is for 16 year old scene faggots who think they even know what death metal (melodic or otherwise) is."

I wont defend Cradle, though. They can eat a dick for not making anything listenable outside of Midian IMO. :annoy:

[goodm0urning]

Am I the only person in here who can judge a band without bringing into question it's fanbase?Or quibble over sub-genres, for that matter.

[pherai]

This is true, but honestly what does that have to do with the bands themselves? Am I the only person in here who can judge a band without bringing into question it's fanbase?

Well, it does make you feel like a queer when you go to see them. But I'll be damned if I haven't seen idiots at every metal show I've ever been too. There is just something more comforting about being around a bunch of drunk, pissed off, greasy mexican metalheads than a bunch of punkass suburban teenagers whos moms drove them to see the big black metal concert. Thankfully when I saw Dimmu Borgir years ago, it was mostly the mexicans.

Personally I think anything Dimmu Borgir has done after enthroned has been boring as fuck.

[Gorehound]

Bands get blamed for promoting their albums and wear at places like Hot Topic which brings in the annoying Mallgoths and Mallcore kids!

This is why when a lot of people mention Dimmu Borgir, they get pissed off that they are just promoting them more and there is more better Black Metal bands than just Dimmu Borgir.

This pic sums it up
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/dimmuborgir5x5.gif

And the more underground bands that people love more would say "We rather be poor and unknown to many than whore our band to big corporations so they can change our music and censor us"!!

Something like that!

[Azagtoth]

/\---What does that have to do with their music? "Wow, Opeth's merch is accessible outside of the internet now! They must suck!" I don't give a fuck how much money they're making or where their merch can be found (or better yet, what type of people end up liking the music) as long as the music is still good, and I don't see a real reason to believe otherwise.

You're seriously trying to tell me that because the band gets promoted because their label fucking cares and has the means to, that that's a bad thing? Of course there's better shit out there that isn't getting as much promotion outside of the internet for whatever reason, but you're gonna fault the band for that? If anything, fault the labels themselves for not promoting the stuff that needs to be promoted.

Seriously, who gives a fuck about that underground/mainstream BS? If they suck, they suck, but it has little to nothing to do with how popular they are. In Flames didn't turn into shit because they got popular, they changed their entire direction because they WANTED to.

BTW, I hardly doubt big corporations are such a huge issue with such a fucking niche genre as metal. It's not like if Vital Remains was getting signed to Metal Blade, they'd be forced to change their sound to be more polite or have less length to the songs or anything like that. :rolleyes:

Well, it does make you feel like a queer when you go to see them. But I'll be damned if I haven't seen idiots at every metal show I've ever been too.

Pretty much.

Personally I think anything Dimmu Borgir has done after enthroned has been boring as fuck.

Compared to other stuff that's out there, definitely. They're not exactly a favorite of mine or anything, but do I find some of their stuff enjoyable.

[angelslayer13]

yeah I have a huge bias twords dimmu and cradle I guess its cause I just thought of them as metal not black metal. I like how they play I like how they mix the better parts of other genres and turn it into something new altogether and the merch... I dont buy it. I look like a normal human being when I go out I dont need a shirt to tell people who I like. fuck people and there pretensions.

[Gorehound]

/\---What does that have to do with their music? "Wow, Opeth's merch is accessible outside of the internet now! They must suck!" I don't give a fuck how much money they're making or where their merch can be found as long as the music is still good, and I don't see a real reason to believe otherwise.

You're seriously trying to tell me that because the band gets promoted because their label fucking cares and has the means to, that that's a bad thing? Of course there's better shit out there that isn't getting as much promotion outside of the internet for whatever reason, but you're gonna fault the band for that? If anything, fault the labels themselves for not promoting the stuff that needs to be promoted.

Seriously, who gives a fuck about that underground/mainstream BS? If they suck, they suck, but it has little to nothing to do with how popular they are. In Flames didn't turn into shit because they got popular, they changed their entire direction because they WANTED to.

BTW, I hardly doubt big corporations are such a huge issue with such a fucking niche genre as metal. It's not like Vital Remains is getting signed to Metal Blade and being forced to change their sound to be more polite or anything like that. :rolleyes:




Damn, calm down!

I'm just saying what I mostly hear a lot from fans or when I see post all over the music forums!

It's called observation!

Plus, I thought that Dimmu pic was pretty funny, thats why I posted it, that and this one
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/demonburger1.jpg
:rofl:

[Azagtoth]

Damn, calm down!

I'm just saying what I mostly hear a lot from fans or when I see post all over the music forums!

It's called observation!

Yeah, I know. Sorry for the nerd rage, but that shit is fucking stupid.

And Dimmu's latest video is so horrible it's fucking hilarious. They apparently know it too, and are just having fun with it. I kinda like the song too, but damn...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F9cqKafnUrk

There's a part in there where Shagrath looks like he's about to take on Voldo, as I've seen some people say.:rofl:

[Gasp]

yeah, Black Dahlia Murder fucking sucks.

this is true

That shit is for 16 year old scene faggots who think they even know what death metal (melodic or otherwise) is."

this is also true, although BDM does does have its roots more in tone with black metal.

i hate metalcore period because i like being ignorant :)
also i hate metalcore cuz it sucks.

But I'll be damned if I haven't seen idiots at every metal show I've ever been too. There is just something more comforting about being around a bunch of drunk, pissed off, greasy mexican metalheads than a bunch of punkass suburban teenagers whos moms drove them to see the big black metal concert.

this is also true, although the LA metal scene sucks its a bunch of people who dont know what they're doing and who their seeing "/

in other news mention of ghoul makes me say
HELLO GOREHOUND AND EJT (http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7316/0903070205ih8.jpg)

ps i look like shitgarbage.
:rofl:

hey if you're into Doom and sludge check out
The Arm and Sword of A Bastard God
they're from Southern California and real fucking grimey like graves at sea.
they just put out a split with Coffins
...
..who i also HIGHLY recommend for all deathmetal fans.

and if you're in the Los Angeles/IE/SGV area
TAaSoABG is playing a show this month in riverside
ill definitely be going to that.

[goodm0urning]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F9cqKafnUrkJesus. When your videos are bad enough to make your song seem awful no matter how good or bad it is...

This facial expression just screams, "Wow, a real live girl... I wonder if she'll touch my wee wee."
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/goodm0urning/dimmu.gif)

[Akutabi Gamma]

Anyone got Nightwish's Dark Passion Play? Bought it last night and am loving it and their new singer(?).

[Azagtoth]

I've been listening to it for a while and I agree. I like Annette much better than Tarja for many reasons, mainly because her English diction doesn't blow and she doesn't sound like a frigid bitch. :rofl:

this is also true, although BDM does does have its roots more in tone with black metal.

Although I do actually think they suck (not so sure about any roots in BM, though; the reason I dislike them has more to do with how their music is mostly stolen At The Gates riffs with really bad solo attempts, so they're moreso really watered down melodeath than anything else; I'll admit I like some songs of theirs though), I was being facetious. =P

As for metalcore, there's always Misery Signals. Everything else is whatever.

Since you're into doom, would you be able to recommend me anything similar to Swallow The Sun? I'm pretty new to doom, and from what I've heard of them, I like it. If it matters, my preference is for anything melodic.

[ReloadChapstick]

Man, I love The Black Dahlia Murder. You guys can kiss my ass.:lovin:

The new CD is really good.

[DarkGiygas]

i dunno if anyone posted this in here before, but its so fuckin good

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rHcTj3YtjKA

[Shion]

That bass player was sick!

[Sunn O)))]

Hell yeah, Alex Webster.

I wish I could play like that v_v

EDIT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tYgCBJP_3jU
Here's a nice little bass solo from the same guy at about 00:45

[TheSix]

:lol:

I was sure everyone had heard of/seen Webster by now. Love or hate Cannibal Corpse, he is brilliant.

--------------

Angela Glossow is a fucking man. Sorry.

[DarkGiygas]

As for metalcore, there's always Misery Signals. Everything else is whatever.
yeah, them and between the buried and me are probably my fav metalcore bands (if you would even consider btbam to be metalcore)

also this is prob in my top 5 fav songs ever
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qfRGF-MWYsE

its so sick live http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xam0i9OvW5M

[goodm0urning]

As long as we're posting favorite metal vids... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVifUqwui7A)

[TheSix]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kpzMH1UFnz4

Eeep.

[pherai]

"You're all gay!"

Ahah. Devin Townsend is too goofy.

I <3 the Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSXCogYvQlw)

[Gorehound]

in other news mention of ghoul makes me say
HELLO GOREHOUND AND EJT (http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7316/0903070205ih8.jpg)

ps i look like shitgarbage.
:rofl:

hey if you're into Doom and sludge check out
The Arm and Sword of A Bastard God
they're from Southern California and real fucking grimey like graves at sea.
they just put out a split with Coffins
...
..who i also HIGHLY recommend for all deathmetal fans.

and if you're in the Los Angeles/IE/SGV area
TAaSoABG is playing a show this month in riverside
ill definitely be going to that.

SWEET :tup:

Did you went to the Ghoul show months ago?
I bought these shirt beauties at the shows
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02202Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02199Small.jpg
(back)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02201Small.jpg

Does anybody here still collects vinyl :tup:

[Armo]

My Fav:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NACwXCTx6Fc

[goodm0urning]

My Fav:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NACwXCTx6FcI'm pretty sure this video definitely awakened my burning vigor or something.

Dude's a great vocalist. You can get away with silly music if you have the technique to pull it off.

[NegroNinja]

Anyone remember a band that they, at first, panned for whatever reason, but then later on ended up kinda liking? We gotta have some guilty pleasures..for me I think it's Skid Row, not because of Slave to the Grind but because of 18 and life...song just sticks in your fuckin head somehow.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Xd8ykpZkwA

Aaah 80's cheese, the brauds went nuts for this nonsense.

[Gasp]

SWEET :tup:

Did you went to the Ghoul show months ago?
I bought these shirt beauties at the shows
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02202Small.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02199Small.jpg
(back)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/AlphaFredo/DSC02201Small.jpg

Does anybody here still collects vinyl :tup:

sweet!
yea i was at the city of industry show and i nabbed
the ghoul shirt with the mosh zombie holding a skateboard
that tour shirt you posted and the FKU "Shockwaves" dedication shirt
(die kruten core)

"You're all gay!"

Ahah. Devin Townsend is too goofy.

I <3 the Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSXCogYvQlw)

mmm municipal waste, that album is way better then their first earache release.

[krost]

such an underrated drummer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a5EeFDvc8iA

[Gorehound]

sweet!
yea i was at the city of industry show and i nabbed
the ghoul shirt with the mosh zombie holding a skateboard
that tour shirt you posted and the FKU "Shockwaves" dedication shirt
(die kruten core)



mmm municipal waste, that album is way better then their first earache release.

I was there too, if you saw a dude with glasses wearing a Possessed shirt and a FEAR beanie, that was me :tup:

I also went to the next day show at the Showcase, there was more people, but they didn't brought out the Killbot!

I actually heard that the City of Industry show was the only place they brought out the Killbot because it was bigger than the other venues!

[Azagtoth]

yeah, them and between the buried and me are probably my fav metalcore bands (if you would even consider btbam to be metalcore)

BTBAM are indeed metalcore, are they're the type of "spastic for the sake of being spastic" shit that I tend to dislike (much like The Red Chord). They have very nice bits of melody and interesting parts here or there, but the great majority of their music just irks me. Something about them feeling the need to ruin the song Alaska by not making a real progression from the song's awesome intro. Selkies is great though, I just wish they would write a real song once in a while that doesn't devolve into RAGARGARAGRGARGA for no reason other than that's what they do. If I wanted to hear spastic shit, I'd probably go for Cryptopsy or Necrophagist, but if I like BTBAM for anything, it's their melody and not their spastic shit.

I loved their covers album though. =P

Misery Signals on the other hand... good melody, not too breakdown crazy, and the original singer was probably the only person I've heard who pulls of that vocal style with such clarity that you can make out almost every word (new one isn't as good, he has more of a typical hardcore sound). I also like that they don't do the style of metalcore that most do (IE watered down melodeath or spastic deathcore).

EDIT: Since we're doing the vid thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKEFjNx68o
Great song by Moonsorrow, cheesy ass video that apparently didn't cost them a thing.

Here's another one of them live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXM8Sn5riE4
And some Arkona to go with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtJddNYGTQU

[Torn Apart]

BTBAM are indeed metalcore, are they're the type of "spastic for the sake of being spastic" shit that I tend to dislike (much like The Red Chord). They have very nice bits of melody and interesting parts here or there, but the great majority of their music just irks me. Something about them feeling the need to ruin the song Alaska by not making a real progression from the song's awesome intro. Selkies is great though, I just wish they would write a real song once in a while that doesn't devolve into RAGARGARAGRGARGA for no reason other than that's what they do. If I wanted to hear spastic shit, I'd probably go for Cryptopsy or Necrophagist, but if I like BTBAM for anything, it's their melody and not their spastic shit.

I loved their covers album though. =P

Misery Signals on the other hand... good melody, not too breakdown crazy, and the original singer was probably the only person I've heard who pulls of that vocal style with such clarity that you can make out almost every word (new one isn't as good, he has more of a typical hardcore sound). I also like that they don't do the style of metalcore that most do (IE watered down melodeath or spastic deathcore).

listen to the new BTBAM album Colors. I think their spastic shit was more so on the first 2 albums. A little bit on Alaska too.

[Azagtoth]

From what I've heard of it, they haven't changed too much though outside of being more random with influences. I guess I'll check it out for curiosity's sake, but the only people I've heard speak well of it were already BTBAM fans, so we'll see.

[Gasp]

I was there too, if you saw a dude with glasses wearing a Possessed shirt and a FEAR beanie, that was me :tup:

I also went to the next day show at the Showcase, there was more people, but they didn't brought out the Killbot!

I actually heard that the City of Industry show was the only place they brought out the Killbot because it was bigger than the other venues!
were you wearing a flannel sweater?

i think my friend talked to you about pictures or some shit after ghoul finished playing. about sending him the pictures or some thing.

I was easy to spot. the guy with the girl haircut hanging out with a big fat metal head.....and the littler metal head...

Azagoth: sorry about the late response, i dont follow doom too much
(im more into sludge) specifically melodic doom, but if you're into swallow the sun um My Dying Bride (hate that name) and Daylight Dies would be good
choices. :wgrin:

such an underrated drummer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a5EeFDvc8iA

thank you, im so glad i got to see Atheist, even if it wasnt the original bass player (RIP) it was still an amazing performance.


also im gonna pump this grind band again.
INXDISGUST (http://www.inxdisgust.com/) from san jose
easily the most intense band out right now
every song is a whirlwind of hatred.
:)

[pherai]

Something about them feeling the need to ruin the song Alaska by not making a real progression from the song's awesome intro.

Rant commencing in 3...2...1...

Although I don't listen to BTBAM, this is a major issue I have with a lot of the 'tech' death metal or grind bands. They can play a lot of notes cleanly and very fast, and overall have great technical skills, but when it comes to songwriting, they can't write their way out of a wet paper bag. To me it sounds like a lot of these bands just write 300 riffs for a record, and for each song they just pick 30 at random, string them together in any order, and call it a song. There's no progression in the music, just awkwardly placed riffing. They can play sweep arpeggios in their sleep in a 13/16 time signature, but ask them to put together a song that isn't totally randomly organized, or strays outside the basic hardcore song structure (mosh riff, two step riff, breakdown), and I imagine most of them would give you a blank stare.

[DarthTrey]

So I saw a bunch of fav metal vids posted above so I am going to post one of my favorites

In Flames - Crawl Through Knives (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8OubCWNgzgM&mode=related&search=)

Dunno why, but I never get sick of listening to that band.....

[OmegaX]

Angela Glossow is a fucking man. Sorry.


Yeah, but you know you'd still fuck her. I'm sure she's completely post-op.





Has anyone watched the new episodes of metalocalypse. Kinda of boring so far. Downloaded the album and its meh. Some okay songs but nothing too spectacular. And there's more to drumming than just double bass and blast beats. Just thought I'd put that out there since that what most metal fans wanna hear drummingwise. Don't get me wrong, I love doing that stuff but that isn't the basis of heavymetal drumming. mini rant over

[Fadedsun303]

Misery Signals on the other hand... good melody, not too breakdown crazy, and the original singer was probably the only person I've heard who pulls of that vocal style with such clarity that you can make out almost every word (new one isn't as good, he has more of a typical hardcore sound). I also like that they don't do the style of metalcore that most do (IE watered down melodeath or spastic deathcore).

I listened to the older Misery Signals album a lot. I didn't know they ever got a new singer. I figured they would have sucked after that album.

I just youtubed The Year Summer Ended In June. That's a really good song. It's been a while since I listened to them.

[Azagtoth]

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This man seriously knows what's good. I'd totally rep you if I could.

I listened to the older Misery Signals album a lot. I didn't know they ever got a new singer. I figured they would have sucked after that album.

Check out Mirrors then. Although I'm really not a fan of the new singer, the music is still mostly solid and the sound is slightly more polished.

Button_m4sh: Thanks, I'll check them out.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

i dunno if anyone posted this in here before, but its so fuckin good

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rHcTj3YtjKA

\m/

Alex signed my Vile CD, woot. Man that video never gets old.

[Gorehound]

were you wearing a flannel sweater?

i think my friend talked to you about pictures or some shit after ghoul finished playing. about sending him the pictures or some thing.

I was easy to spot. the guy with the girl haircut hanging out with a big fat metal head.....and the littler metal head...



No, I didn't wear a sweater to the show, well I think I didn't, but I was right in front of the stage to the right side when the last three bands performed!

HEY, I did remember taking a pic of this dude with the Goreboar and giving it to him online.

He took a pic of me with the Goreboar, but because of my shitty Sony camera, it came out very blurry:arazz:

Anybody here likes Deathspell Omega, I really love the new album I bought at the Inquisition show a few months back, which Inquisition is a great and awesome live band, Highly Recommended :tup:

[Random123456789]

Slayer and Children of Bodom! Yeah! lol They're cool.

[Azagtoth]

Slayer and Children of Bodom! Yeah! lol They're cool.

I believe the correct term here is "they were." :(

[ReloadChapstick]

\m/

Alex signed my Vile CD, woot. Man that video never gets old.

Oh true, true...I remember that haha.:wgrin:

[OmegaX]

I believe the correct term here is "they were." :(



Eh, Slayer I think has kinda lost it. They still put on great on shows but as far as material, it's been slumping, even with Dave back in the band. But whats wrong with COB?

[Azagtoth]

Eh, Slayer I think has kinda lost it. They still put on great on shows but as far as material, it's been slumping, even with Dave back in the band. But whats wrong with COB?

Basically every album after Hate Crew Death Roll (which I kind of liked because it still had elements of Follow The Reaper, but the change in direction was obvious and once Alexander left, Alexi took it to the next level of suck).

[pherai]

Angels Don't Kill alone elevated Hate Crew Deathroll to one of my favorite Bodom albums. That chord progressions on that song were awesome. I only wish they had someone really singing on that song.

[OmegaX]

Guess I have to go back and listen to their older stuff. As much as I hate to classify bands, COB always kinda came off to me melodic/techno/thrash metal as convoluted as that sounds. Kinda like a really heavy and good sounding Europe. I ended up really liking Are You Dead Yet?

What major changes did you notice?

[Azagtoth]

Guess I have to go back and listen to their older stuff. As much as I hate to classify bands, COB always kinda came off to me melodic/techno/thrash metal as convoluted as that sounds. Kinda like a really heavy and good sounding Europe. I ended up really liking Are You Dead Yet?

What major changes did you notice?

As I mentioned, Hate Crew Deathroll had a bit of the sound from Follow The Reaper (lots of melody, lots of leads and catchy riffs, mostly upbeat tempos outside of Everytime I Die), but it also had the beginnings of the sound from Are You Dead Yet (lots of slow chug riffs, less emphasis on melody and less leads).

My major issue with them is that they've since let the melodies and leads (obviously their best strength if you've ever heard any of their first 3 albums) take a backseat and they eventually became stale; their songs just don't have the same flair as a result because apparently Alexi decided to sacrifice melodic content in trying to make the band heavier (which leads me to believe Alexander had a fair bit more input than people think).

Also, listen to the intro to COB's "If You Want Peace... Prepare for War," and then check out Kalmah making fun of them with the intro to their song "Man of The King" for a good laugh.

[OmegaX]

Alright, clears things up. Don't know why but I assumed you meant that they were becoming too melodic which I thought was kinda weird. Anyway yeah, the difference is definitely there. Never really bothered me though. Not all the songs were great but overall to me it was still a solid album. They haven't completely lost the melody, and there are some heavier areas in certain songs that I see as a welcomed change, sort of to pump up the sound a little more.

[goodm0urning]

I liked the Follow The Reaper album, but I couldn't really get much into Hate Crew Deathroll. There were a few good songs, but as has been said, many of them didn't have the melodic edge. Since Alexi barks all the vocals, the band depends on its guitar melodies to stand out, and without them, it just doesn't sound very good.

Also, listen to the intro to COB's "If You Want Peace... Prepare for War," and then check out Kalmah making fun of them with the intro to their song "Man of The King" for a good laugh.Funny that you mention Kalmah. Swampsong is the album I went to when I lost interest in Bodom.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I dunno, I can't listen to Kalmah anymore. I used to love the band, but now every time I hear that damned keyboard/synth that they use that sort of sounds like guitars, I cringe.

[Azagtoth]

I liked the Follow The Reaper album, but I couldn't really get much into Hate Crew Deathroll. There were a few good songs, but as has been said, many of them didn't have the melodic edge. Since Alexi barks all the vocals, the band depends on its guitar melodies to stand out, and without them, it just doesn't sound very good.

Funny that you mention Kalmah. Swampsong is the album I went to when I lost interest in Bodom.

Exactly.

Black Waltz is pretty good too, although production could use a good deal of work. Their singer sounds much better to me when he just sticks to lows.

I dunno, I can't listen to Kalmah anymore. I used to love the band, but now every time I hear that damned keyboard/synth that they use that sort of sounds like guitars, I cringe.

That's an extremely common lead synth. It was popularized by Stratovarius, and it's usually found in power metal. What Kalmah/COB/similar bands (almost all Finnish) do is a hybrid of melodeath/power metal, so it actually makes sense there.

I actually like it, though, but it's moreso reserved for melodic styles, and if you're not already into that kind of stuff, I can see why it might put you off. I have a fucking hard-on for anything with melody, so yeah.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Exactly.

Black Waltz is pretty good too, although production could use a good deal of work. Their singer sounds much better to me when he just sticks to lows.



That's an extremely common lead synth. It was popularized by Stratovarius, and it's usually found in power metal. What Kalmah/COB/similar bands (almost all Finnish) do is a hybrid of melodeath/power metal, so it actually makes sense there.

I actually like it, though, but it's moreso reserved for melodic styles, and if you're not already into that kind of stuff, I can see why it might put you off. I have a fucking hard-on for anything with melody, so yeah.

Oh, I know what it is, believe me, I'm just not a fan of it at all. Not in Kalmah, or any other band. I just find it cheesy myself, but I know a lot of people like it. Dunno, just always felt it should be a guitar doing that type of lead, not keyboards.

[goodm0urning]

Oh, I know what it is, believe me, I'm just not a fan of it at all. Not in Kalmah, or any other band. I just find it cheesy myself, but I know a lot of people like it. Dunno, just always felt it should be a guitar doing that type of lead, not keyboards.Keyboardists know that the guitarists get the blowjob. So they figure, the more they can imitate a guitar, the better their shot is at getting the blowjob. Why do you think the keytar was invented?

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Cannibal Corpse/Goatwhore tonight. My first time seeing Goatwhore live. I know they'll only have a 20 minute set or some bullshit while Black Dahlia plays for 45, but its better than nothing. Lupos Heartbreak Hotel in Providence if anyone is in the area.

[Gorehound]

Heaven and Hell, Alice Cooper, and Queensryche tonight :tup:

[TheSix]

Cannibal Corpse/Goatwhore tonight. My first time seeing Goatwhore live. I know they'll only have a 20 minute set or some bullshit while Black Dahlia plays for 45, but its better than nothing. Lupos Heartbreak Hotel in Providence if anyone is in the area.

It's an excellent show. I went to both shows in SF a few weeks ago.

[jkoch]

I'm glad I opened this thread. I never heard of IMPERANON before, but I just looked at some videos on Youtube and they're really good.

Right now I'm listening to:
Kronos - Colossal Titan Strife
Nile - Ithyphallic
Deicide - The Stench of Redemption
Necrophagist - Onset of Putrefaction
Torture Killer - Swarm
Skinless - Trample The Weak, Hurdle The Dead

[goodm0urning]

Heaven and Hell, Alice Cooper, and Queensryche tonight :tup:Damn. I wish I were there.

[Gasp]

anyone into Intestine Baalism?

can ya recommend good death metal bands along those lines.

[EmX]

Anyone here into stoner/doom metal? Electric Wizard, Boris, Sleep, Evoken, Melvins, High on Fire, etc?

[Gasp]

dude...yo i love it.
eyehategod, bongzilla, soverign, fleshpress.

im more into drone/sludge stuff too.
like sunn o))), toadliquor, graves at sea, noothgrush and monarch.

[Geese Pants]

What do most people think of Mastodon?
I'm digging their music..........

[Shion]

I loves me some Mastodon.

On the subject of drone/doom/sluge I like; The Sword, Boris, Earth, Melvins, Monarch (female vocalist ftw), Om etc.

[goodm0urning]

What do most people think of Mastodon?
I'm digging their music..........Not too familiar with them, but I heard it's them at the beginning of the ATHF movie. Brilliant and funny song.

After all the recent talk about Cannibal Corpse, I've been jamming their Live Cannibalism album. I already play guitar, but Alex Webster makes me want to pick up bass as well.

And has anyone heard Down III yet? I've heard five of the songs, and it sounds damn good.






* "It's like some weird-ass quiz where he reveals the answer first..." - Mitch Hedberg

[TheSix]

Anyone here into stoner/doom metal? Electric Wizard, Boris, Sleep, Evoken, Melvins, High on Fire, etc?

Love'em all. I recommend BooixOPT as well.

What do most people think of Mastodon?
I'm digging their music..........

"OMG THEY LIEK ON MTV NOW SHIT MUSIC!!111"

I thoroughly enjoy them.



After all the recent talk about Cannibal Corpse, I've been jamming their Live Cannibalism album. I already play guitar, but Alex Webster makes me want to pick up bass as well.


Join us...JOOOOIN USSSSSS. :wgrin:

I'm listening to the leak of the new Opeth live album. Wonderful. I know it's a promo and all, but whoever put this beeping in should die. Although...I guess it's better than the "This is the new album from Arch Enemy" from the AE promo. Still....die. I really wish they would have put the DVD out first.

I wonder....how much money do bands like Cannibal Corpse make? They are in the more "popular"(if you can call it that) spectrum of the Death genre. But I still can't imagine that after 20 years they make a quarter of what a band like Paramore makes.

With that said, I'd imagine Chris Barnes is working in a call center nowadays :rofl:

[pherai]

Oh, I know what it is, believe me, I'm just not a fan of it at all. Not in Kalmah, or any other band. I just find it cheesy myself, but I know a lot of people like it. Dunno, just always felt it should be a guitar doing that type of lead, not keyboards.

Why is a keyboard playing the same leads as a guitar normally would cheesy?

[Fadedsun303]

Anyone here into stoner/doom metal? Electric Wizard, Boris, Sleep, Evoken, Melvins, High on Fire, etc?

Check out Old Man Gloom, Jesu and Doom Riders.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Why is a keyboard playing the same leads as a guitar normally would cheesy?

It's not cheesy that it's being played by keyboards, it's how it SOUNDS that's the problem, for me. I just can't stand it. I like a lot of Kalmah songs for example, but I can't help but want to skip a few of them every time they start with that crap. Again, this is all just me, but meh.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

anyone into Intestine Baalism?

can ya recommend good death metal bands along those lines.



Will you just marry me already?

[t1337Dude]

They are NOT Black Metal, they are Death Metal, pretty damn good Death Metal at that. I agree on Cradle/Dimmu however. That's only for 14 year old goth kids who think they even know what Black Metal is.

Obviously Cannibal Corpse is not black metal. But you're not going to get far with a Britney Spears + Mutiilation combo. Obviously I'm exaggerating but Cannibal Corpse has a "death metal for 15 year olds" feel. There's endless amounts of better death metal to occupy your listening time. Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, and Cannibal Corpse are all intellectually-devoid stereotypes representing different themes of music. The only difference is that Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir try too hard to be unique, while Cannibal Corpse is going in the completely opposite direction.

[Azagtoth]

The only difference is that Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir try too hard to be unique, while Cannibal Corpse is going in the completely opposite direction.

What? I'm not gonna argue musical preference or anything, but I don't see how they could be trying too hard to be unique when there are tons of bands that did those styles before them and they KNOW it. If anything, they're in the exact same boat as CC, the only difference is that CC and Dimmu are actually OG's (even if Dimmu changed direction) and Cradle are just doing what they like.

[OmegaX]

Just picked up a Municipal Waste and enjoyed the hell out of it. Guess I love almost anything thrash. Anyone else listen to them.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Obviously Cannibal Corpse is not black metal. But you're not going to get far with a Britney Spears + Mutiilation combo. Obviously I'm exaggerating but Cannibal Corpse has a "death metal for 15 year olds" feel. There's endless amounts of better death metal to occupy your listening time. Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, and Cannibal Corpse are all intellectually-devoid stereotypes representing different themes of music. The only difference is that Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir try too hard to be unique, while Cannibal Corpse is going in the completely opposite direction.

And of course, that boils down to it being YOUR opinion, I of course, beg to differ and find Cannibal Corpse to be in a completely different league then Cradle or Dimmu. I dunno, it just seems because Cannibal Corpse is, you know, more "popular" then most Death Metal bands, then all of a sudden the "under-ground" crowd has to toss it into the 15-year old music category. Whatever floats your boat, buddy.

[Azagtoth]

I dunno, it just seems because Cannibal Corpse is, you know, more "popular" then most Death Metal bands, then all of a sudden the "under-ground" crowd has to toss it into the 15-year old music category.

You make a really good point here, but the problem is that this is exactly the same thing everyone (including you) has been doing with Dimmu. The only difference is you don't like Dimmu's (fans) music so you think it's justified when it's really the same stupid shit.

Then again, he was making the point that all three bands have one thing in common: there's similar but better stuff out there, which is of course true, but doesn't make a nipple hair of difference because we'll like whatever the fuck we want regardless of whether or not there's "better" stuff in the same vein.

[Gorehound]

Last nights Heaven and Hell/Alice Cooper was the greatest show I seen in a long time!!

Alice Cooper is still awesome as fuck onstage, that guy never quits and I'm glad he doesn't :tup:

Heaven and Hell was a night to remember, I was literally right in front of the stage four feet a away from the performers. They put on a kick ass set and Dio still has THE VOICE :bgrin:

Yesterday's show was a special occasion show because right before the played the last song of the night, some Metal Radio Chick Host came out and presented them with Gold Records for selling the "Hell and Hell Live DVD" in mass quantities in just bare a month.

I didn't make it to Queensryche because of the asshole security people not letting me in because I had a Skull belt buckle, then the line got even bigger and slower to get in!!!!

I got a couple of stage souvenirs-
-An Alice Cooper $100 fake bill drenched in Blood from the stage show
-An Autographed Edged Tony Iommi Guitar Pic straight from the hand of Tony Iommi himself, I just reached my hand and he gave me one:rock:

I also bought a Tour Book, a Patch, a Poster and a kick-ass Bandana which if you fold it around your forehead, only the "HELL" word shows :tup:

Truly a night to remember:lovin:

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

You make a really good point here, but the problem is that this is exactly the same thing everyone (including you) has been doing with Dimmu. The only difference is you don't like Dimmu's (fans) music so you think it's justified when it's really the same stupid shit.

Then again, he was making the point that all three bands have one thing in common: there's similar but better stuff out there, which is of course true, but doesn't make a nipple hair of difference because we'll like whatever the fuck we want regardless of whether or not there's "better" stuff in the same vein.

Touche. You've got a point, surely. I don't really see in what area is Cannibal Corpse similar to those other two bands except they they are pretty well known on their respective genres. And while I may agree on Dimmu, I don't on Cradle. They are just shit, even compared to Dimmu, and can hardly be considered Black Metal(if they even still consider themselves that). While some of they pre-Midiam stuff was decent ,everything else after that was pure trash. But of course, that's what I think.

[Azagtoth]

Touche. You've got a point, surely. I don't really see in what area is Cannibal Corpse similar to those other two bands except they they are pretty well known on their respective genres. And while I may agree on Dimmu, I don't on Cradle. They are just shit, even compared to Dimmu, and can hardly be considered Black Metal(if they even still consider themselves that). While some of they pre-Midiam stuff was decent ,everything else after that was pure trash. But of course, that's what I think.

I happen to kind of like new/old Dimmu and CC, and I liked Midian but hated everything else from Cradle (who btw don't really consider themselves black metal), but as you mentioned, that's all opinion and that's cool.

The only thing I'm claiming CC has in common with those two are that a: they all tend to get trashed moreso because they're popular than on any other merit, and that b: there are, of course, bands who do what they do better. It pretty much goes without saying that CC has nothing in common with the other two musically. =P

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

I happen to kind of like new/old Dimmu and CC, and I liked Midian but hated everything else from Cradle (who btw don't really consider themselves black metal), but as you mentioned, that's all opinion and that's cool.

The only thing I'm claiming CC has in common with those two are that a: they all tend to get trashed moreso because they're popular than on any other merit, and that b: there are, of course, bands who do what they do better. It pretty much goes without saying that CC has nothing in common with the other two musically. =P

Haha, gotcha. I'll be the first to admit that Wretched Spawn/Kill both aren't nearly as memorable as I'd like them to be, but hey, can't win 'em all. I dunno, it's just that the last few releases from DB just left a bad taste in my mouth, especially their latest offering and that dreadful Stormblast remake.

[krost]

Anyone here into stoner/doom metal? Electric Wizard, Boris, Sleep, Evoken, Melvins, High on Fire, etc?

Add Big Business to that list and you have a fan right here :tup:

[Gasp]

Will you just marry me already?

ya know...evo world IS in vegas


but i just wanna bump my question.

any bands along the line of intestine baalism?

[pherai]

Just picked up a Municipal Waste and enjoyed the hell out of it. Guess I love almost anything thrash. Anyone else listen to them.

I mentioned them earlier, and yeah, they kick ass! They put out really fun albums.

I dunno, it just seems because Cannibal Corpse is, you know, more "popular" then most Death Metal bands, then all of a sudden the "under-ground" crowd has to toss it into the 15-year old music category. Whatever floats your boat, buddy.

Agreed. The biggest complaint with Cradle of Dimmu is that its all overproduced, and that the layers of cheesy atmospheric synthy stuff just covers up average riffing. I doubt anyone's making that complaint of CC.

[t1337Dude]

And of course, that boils down to it being YOUR opinion, I of course, beg to differ and find Cannibal Corpse to be in a completely different league then Cradle or Dimmu. I dunno, it just seems because Cannibal Corpse is, you know, more "popular" then most Death Metal bands, then all of a sudden the "under-ground" crowd has to toss it into the 15-year old music category. Whatever floats your boat, buddy.

Cannibal Corpse sucked before they were popular. And really it's not my opinion as much as it is of the underground metal communities. Regardless I agree with them.

[Azagtoth]

/\----No one cares. Quit riding their dick and get an opinion of your own.

Agreed. The biggest complaint with Cradle of Dimmu is that its all overproduced, and that the layers of cheesy atmospheric synthy stuff just covers up average riffing. I doubt anyone's making that complaint of CC.

Well with CC, there are no synths to cover up the average riffing. =P

[EmptyJumpThrow]

ya know...evo world IS in vegas


but i just wanna bump my question.

any bands along the line of intestine baalism?



Dude I dunno, they are pretty unique. That really melodic sound with brutal vocals...


I'm sure you know of Vehemence, they have a heavier melodic sound than your stereotypical "melodic death" band.

Vomit Remnants are...Japanese...thats about all they have in common. They have some really catchy breakdowns, but they are way heavier than Intestine Baalism. Not melodic, but definitely awesome. I guess they have 2 things in common!

Give Fleshless's "To Kill for Skin" album a try. Thrashy melodic riffs, with brutal vocals. Not exactly the same as Intestine Baalism, but at least its similar, and its a really good disc. I.B. really are a unique band, Anatomy of a Beast is too fucking good. Glad they are appreciated by someone else. Sorry if these suggestions are no good, but your question is a tough one haha.




Listen to Dub Buk!!!

[TheSix]

And really it's not my opinion as much as it is of the underground metal communities. Regardless I agree with them.

Wow. Can I sign up for this club? I have lots of black clothing and believe gore metal is the element which brings life.

Really, just kill yourself. The "underground metal community"? WTF is that?! In other words - a group of artard elitist who claim and cling onto bands that few people listen too.

[pherai]

Well with CC, there are no synths to cover up the average riffing. =P

Yup. That was my point.

[angelslayer13]

perhaps he was banned?

[goodm0urning]

Really, just kill yourself. The "underground metal community"? WTF is that?! In other words - a group of artard elitist who claim and cling onto bands that few people listen too.The "underground metal community" stopped being an underground community in the mid-90s and started being a bunch of nerds arguing over the Internet about whether Band X is heavy melodic thrash-grindcore or gore heavy thrash/power metal. Fuck that. Just listen to what you like.

[Gorehound]

Anybody here still collects Vinyl?

I got a bunch of rare Metal Vinyl :tup:

[OmegaX]

I mentioned them earlier, and yeah, they kick ass! They put out really fun albums.

I hear their shows are insane. Kind of a long the lines of a GWAR show, just not as disgusting.



The "underground metal community"? WTF is that?! In other words - a group of artard elitist who claim and cling onto bands that few people listen too.


Thank you. Had a friend who thought his taste in music was so much better because he'd listen to a lot underground Chicago bands but god forbid I listen to Priest and Maiden.




Anybody here still collects Vinyl? I got a bunch of rare Metal Vinyl :tup:


Probably not rare but I have a whole box of classic rock vinyl which some lady gave to me free at a garage sale. A lot of big bands, but not in the best condition. Sabbath, Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, and Lynard Skynard to name a few.

[pherai]

If you don't like Maiden or Priest, you're not metal.

I haven't seen Municipal Waste. Don't go to shows as often as I used to but I'd imagine its pretty wild.

[CarpeNoctumXIII]

Cannibal Corpse sucked before they were popular. And really it's not my opinion as much as it is of the underground metal communities. Regardless I agree with them.

And guess what? Fuck the underground community. I listen to music for what it is, I don't care much what other people think. Whatever you may say though, it's still an opinion YOU agree with, and thus, your opinion as well.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Eaten Back to Life is the best Corpse album. /close nonsensical argument about Corpse only becoming good once they became popular.


On a more interesting and fun note, my buddy has seen Municipal Waste 4 times in the last year. He SWEARS by their live shows. Says its wicked old school, the pits are awesome and completely void of hardcore faggots trying to kill people. He's been begging me to go, but their shows always fall on nights of other shows or real close, i.e. Sept 27 he went to M.W. and I went to Megadeth on Sept 28. I refused to go see Megadeth at 50% like I know I would have been after a night of moshing the night before. Anyway, I will go see them eventually, its supposed to be a great time, and the band members are really just metal fans like us. They watch all the sets of the opening bands amongst the rest of the crowd and shit. I guess they are really down to earth.

[Azagtoth]

/close nonsensical argument about Corpse only becoming bad once they became popular.

Fixed because that was what the argument was actually about.

Button_m4sh: Checked out Daylight Dies, and it's fucking dope. Thanks again.

[EmptyJumpThrow]

Cannibal Corpse sucked before they were popular.


Perhaps I misunderstood, but that seems to imply that they got better as time went on. I am of the opinion that their first album was their best. Meh, to each their own.

[Azagtoth]

Perhaps I misunderstood, but that seems to imply that they got better as time went on. I am of the opinion that their first album was their best. Meh, to each their own.

He meant that he thinks they've sucked since day 1. Before that he referred to them as "death metal for 15 year olds."

[goodm0urning]

He meant that he thinks they've sucked since day 1. Before that he referred to them as "death metal for 15 year olds."As opposed to death metal that only mature grown-ups listen to?

[TheSix]

I LOL'ed.

[Gasp]

EJT:yea vehemence is pretty good so is vomit remnants they have that Corpse guitarmanship.

on the topic of CC: the only album i liked was the bleeding because its the only album where chris barnes vocals aren't shitgarbage. his growls suck but the lows were good and that album was the only album he went low instead of growled.

azagoth:no problem, glad you enjoyed them they're near that Opeth level

omegax/pherai: i saw the waste three years ago and it was one of the funnest shows i've ever been to. they brought out springboards for super stage dives as well as boogie boards marked "OFFICIAL WASTE CROWD SURFING BOARD!" FUN TIMES. if you guys are into municipal waste there are a few new age cross over bands kicking ass. check out Spring Break (funniest band ever) and Cross Examination. Also MW had a side project band called "Cannibis Corpse" which was a cannibal corpse cover band with all the lyrics changed to weed theme songs.

[pherai]

I've always said Regurgitate requires a refined palette.

[Wantonx]

Also MW had a side project band called "Cannibis Corpse" which was a cannibal corpse cover band with all the lyrics changed to weed theme songs.

I need to hear that...

[Gorehound]

EJT:yea vehemence is pretty good so is vomit remnants they have that Corpse guitarmanship.

on the topic of CC: the only album i liked was the bleeding because its the only album where chris barnes vocals aren't shitgarbage. his growls suck but the lows were good and that album was the only album he went low instead of growled.

azagoth:no problem, glad you enjoyed them they're near that Opeth level

omegax/pherai: i saw the waste three years ago and it was one of the funnest shows i've ever been to. they brought out springboards for super stage dives as well as boogie boards marked "OFFICIAL WASTE CROWD SURFING BOARD!" FUN TIMES. if you guys are into municipal waste there are a few new age cross over bands kicking ass. check out Spring Break (funniest band ever) and Cross Examination. Also MW had a side project band called "Cannibis Corpse" which was a cannibal corpse cover band with all the lyrics changed to weed theme songs.

I think I said this before, but the guy from Springbreak is my friend, we go to CSUSB, thats were I first met him, he was wearing a Deicide shirt and he noticed my Burzum shirt, the rest of the guys go there too, if you seen a guy with a cut off sleeve Megadeth shirt on stage, thats him :tup:

Suicidal Tendencies and Municipal Waste West Coast Tour

Sat Nov 17 '07 Tucson AZ Rialto Theatre
Sun Nov 18 '07 El Paso TX Club 101
Mon Nov 19 '07 Albuquerque NM Sunshine Theater

Wed Nov 21 '07 West Hollywood CA House of Blues
Fri Nov 23 '07 Santa Ana CA Galaxy Concert Theatre
Sat Nov 24 '07 Ventura CA Majestic Ventura Theatre

Tue Nov 27 '07 Portland OR Roseland Theatre
Web Nov 28 '07 Seattle WA El Corazon

Fri Nov 30 '07 Petaluma CA Phoenix Theater
Sat Dec 1 '07 Reno NV Stoney's
Sun Dec 2 '07 San Francisco CA Slim's

Wed Dec 5 '07 Las Vegas NV House of Blues


You west coast bastards better be there :bgrin:

[Kayin]

If you don't like Maiden or Priest, you're not metal.

This is all that ever needs to be said.

[TheSix]

Suicidal Tendencies never play what I wanna fucking hear.

[Gorehound]

Suicidal Tendencies never play what I wanna fucking hear.

Neither does Type O Negative, but I still go :tup:

[TheSix]

Europe always get the super tours. Fucking US. It's always a really good band...being opening by some really shitty bands. Euro tours are always powerhoused.

Example? SIX FEET UNDER/NILE/FINNTROLL/BELPHEGOR. I would pay good money for that show.

When either one of those bands tour here, I'm sure I will have to sit through "In This Moment" or some crap.

[Gorehound]

Europe always get the super tours. Fucking US. It's always a really good band...being opening by some really shitty bands. Euro tours are always powerhoused.

Example? SIX FEET UNDER/NILE/FINNTROLL/BELPHEGOR. I would pay good money for that show.

When either one of those bands tour here, I'm sure I will have to sit through "In This Moment" or some crap.

I agree to what you say, we always get stuck with a really good band with really shitty bands opening for them!!

[Etcetera]

I agree to what you say, we always get stuck with a really good band with really shitty bands opening for them!!
Or sometimes great bands opening for shitty bands. Short sets ftl.

[NegroNinja]

New Exodus album!!! ( FULL!!! ) up for stream on Their Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/exodus)!!!!

All I can see is holy shit that's some good thrash...but then again what else you expect?

New Overkill album is badass too I hear, gotta get my hands on it.