Describe the Lag on live

[Kuja]

What exactly are the symptoms of it. Does the opponent like look jittery and he moves accross the screen like when theres lag in FPS games? Is parrying harder with lag? etc

I'm working on getting myself a free xbox just for third strike, and i'm very close on doing that. And with that saved money i'll be getting a joystick of some sort. I'm just wondering what kind of expierience I'll be getting.

[squiz]

depends on who u are connected with, most of the time i play lag free 3s but then other times.. its really bad :/

[CigarBoB]

It tastes like vanilla.

[ParryAll]

Its just an input lag. So press punch 0.1 seconds later (or worse) it comes out. Visually there is no difference, although in really bad lag it will pause up for a few seconds.

[Th3 Judderman]

usually for me its frame by frame movement if its that bad....its like being in front of a strobe light if that makes any sense

[ereet]

One of the best ways to describe it other than 'input lag' is by scenarios. Here's a good one. Upon doing this, I went to my local arcade and found myself parrying TOO early. :confused:

Chun Li SA#2. Chun executes super. You decide not to Daigo the bitch and block the first two sets of kicks. Upon the last hit, you go for the parry.

THIS is where the "lag" takes place. In the arcade, you parry precisely when the hit actually hits you. In XBox live, although it can change from person to person, you generally have to tap forward halfway between the 2nd set of kicks and the last kick. Roughly .3 - .5 of a second delay on bad games.

Horrible if you play heavily on live and then go to an arcade. Easily adjustable to if you frequent between the two.

[Immovable Mind]

The lag can indeed be that bad...I really depends on who you are playing. Look up some guys who live near you with a good connection. That should be the best. If you live in Europe, make sure you play a lot of european people. Trying to do a parry all across the Atlantic ocean isn't that easy for any connection.

Sometimes it even looks like it's depends on the character choice. I get the most lag when playing a Alex - Dudley - Hugo match. But that could be just my imagination.

One more thing, playing with Yang and performing SA2 (I think) will make XBL freak out and sometimes disconnect with your opponent.

Greetz Mind

*There are almost lag free matches!!! (I have them a lot ^_^)

[Mikee_Showbiz]

One more thing, playing with Yang and performing SA2 (I think) will make XBL freak out and sometimes disconnect with your opponent.

It's Yang's SA3 that causes the desynch error.

Anyway, the lag is just... bleurgh. I can't adjust to it. I can't parry simple stuff like the last hit of Makoto's SA2 or last kick of Chun's SA2, let alone going for some of the more practical red parries (last hit Dudley's Machine Gun Blow, last hit Urien's Tyrant Slaughter, etc). I can't even tech-roll on Live, it's that hard for me to make the adjustment.

But then some people adjust to the lag really easily, so it all depends. Like ParryAll says, you're basically working with a minor delay on everything, meaning you have to execute slightly earlier than normal.

Me, I'm just getting too old to learn two different sets of timing for the same game.

[HarmoNaz]

I can describe it quite well :bgrin:

Basically, I only use my pad to play live because I can mentally program myself to think that its not lag but button delay. I press my buttons extra hard (I've damaged two pads already) and it feels as if the move comes out when the button is fully depressed. Though in theory the command already goes into the game as soon as I tap the button, the time between the tap and the hard push is the lag.
Hope my explanation was geeky enough for you :tup:

Oh Mikee - I didn't know Shigeki was you when we first played. Good to see you have live again. I look forward to more twelve VS Hugo matches :nunchuck:

[Edieman]

As someone else said, try to play people living near you. On my return to Live following an offline tournament I got absolutely pasted. Mainly my parrying and partitioning got messed up. I played around 30 or so games and I'm (thankfully) fully adjusted to playing on good connections again. It normally takes me the same amount of games to get used to offline.

Get on Live if you want plenty of comp, varying styles of play and to learn some new stuff from people. Really, it's still very enjoyable. If you're a hardcore offline and tournament player with a thriving local scene I'd be tempted to give it a miss.

[LakeEarth]

If it's jerky, you got a bad connection.

When you have a good connection, you almost forget you are online until "it" happens. When a Ken comes down on a SRK, you try to punish and he somehow recovers and SRKs again. Damn lag!

[Kuja]

Well, I live in southern california with a cable connection. I'm sure theres people here who play on Live. If not I'll have to keep wasting quarters at FFA :(

[MeeNaXi]

Er, you log on and if its bad....it takes 2 mins to register a player, having decided to wait you go to make a cup of tea and then return to find that connections with ALL available players are 'worst', in anger you start swearing at microsoft for taking you're subs and not providing a decent server....then you realise it could be you're isp and give the provider some stick as well because you've got a 5mb connection and then finally yourself for being so sad and over relying on live play (and not playing enough offline matches)...

....you finally get one that says 'bad' and you join and then wait for the challenger to decide, he does and then you start playin only to find out that there is 5 second button delay.....aaaaaaaaahhhhh! :sad: :xeye: :rolleyes:

[Th3 Judderman]

Any Northeast US players here then? hehe

[ParryAll]

I've done some experimenting with my friend who lives about 10 minutes away, here's what we discovered that can add to lag:

Checking friends lists/ranking chart during load times/in between rounds. Play around with this, everytime you or your friend access' the chart from the start menu during the fight, the other player will see a tiny pause. Then the entire connection feels a little worse afterwards. If you keep doing this the connection will get worse and worse as games go on.

Voice chat. Voice chat MAY effect lag, but I really couldn't tell personally. You would think it would, but we couldn't get anything concrete. I honestly couldn't tell a difference w/ or w/o but, most people don't chat anyway.