The Official NBA 2005-06 Thread

[totaltoanage]

Western Conference Finals and then World NBA Champions.
HEAT has never beat Dallas in the regular season, FYI.

[DanielLarusso]

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thought u all may enjoy!

Holy shit who knew that off the court the MVP of the NBA was actually none other than wrestler Ravishing Rick Rude?

[TGC]

Western Conference Finals and then World NBA Champions.
HEAT has never beat Dallas in the regular season, FYI.

And they only beat Detroit once in the reg season...WTF is your point?

[totaltoanage]

my fucking point is that your fucking suns fucking suck. they can all choke on dallas championship trophy after its all done with. Who the fuck was talking to you noone. STFU with your i believe BS, you need to update sun*.

*pun intended.

[Def1n1tely]

no detroit and no phoenix! yes! its like a finals dream come true

[Hoonyo]

my fucking point is that your fucking suns fucking suck. they can all choke on dallas championship trophy after its all done with. Who the fuck was talking to you noone. STFU with your i believe BS, you need to update sun*.

*pun intended.
im pretty sure your post was directed towards anybody who reads the thread asshole.

[AkumaTX]

No the man is right. Suns need to choke up the lost and realize that excuses are pointless. You all are beginning to sound like Nken when the Seahawks lost. FUCK YOU SUNS. PEACE THE FUCK OUT!

[Robust]

peace out to the luckiest team in the league <3

[Cool-Breeze]

Name one guy who has come back from a major injury besides Kidd but even so he wasnt at his fullest. Even though they get back Amare, the suns will still be the same. So they go to the inside more, but that just means less 3s to shoot up. Like i said, i dont see the Suns getting a victory anytime soon. Sure they have a nice team, but lthose who say 2 years, Nash will be 34-35. He slows down, then who else carries the ball or makes the plays. Of course all these are what ifs and we all have to wait till next season, but im willing to bet anyone $300 they dont reach conference finals next year or the next.

Im with you on that bet, Some people were posting about luck and shit like that, and they seem to have forgotten about The Houston Rockets, No offense to the Clippers but I dont think anyone saw them reaching the Playoffs let alone going past the first round.

Memphis is pretty good as a Western Conference team as well.
Utah may step it up next year, they gave a nice run towards the end of the season.
Seattle Hopefully won't have alot of injuries.
Im not looking forward to N.O. but they had a nice run as well.
Golden State has gotten more competitive.
Sacremento will hopefully make some better moves exspecially since they will have new blood at the coaching position.
Denver,Minnesota,Portland, will all be bottom feeders in my eyes.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Who the hell's making excuses? Suns got beat, plain and simple. I for sure am not saying otherwise; it would have definitely surprised me if they won the championship this year. All I'm saying is that the future looks good and next year can only be better, barring any sort of catastrophic injury. I know I gave credit to the teams the Suns played, so why can't you guys give at least a bit of due credit to the Suns for what they achieved? Lucky draws or not, you still have to out there and play the damn game and WIN, and the fact that the Suns did that for 2 series with what, 7 new guys, without a legitimate big man, and the cornerstone of their franchise out for the year says something about them.

[Cool-Breeze]

Who the hell's making excuses? Suns got beat, plain and simple. I for sure am not saying otherwise; it would have definitely surprised me if they won the championship this year. All I'm saying is that the future looks good and next year can only be better, barring any sort of catastrophic injury. I know I gave credit to the teams the Suns played, so why can't you guys give at least a bit of due credit to the Suns for what they achieved? Lucky draws or not, you still have to out there and play the damn game and WIN, and the fact that the Suns did that for 2 series with what, 7 new guys, without a legitimate big man, and the cornerstone of their franchise out for the year says something about them.

I fucking give the SUNS nice credit for making it as far as they did for real, I just feel if the Western Conference isnt depleted by injuries the Suns will have there work cut out for them, Exspecially since they went an Entire year with out there dominant big man AND it seems they have chaged there offense from Run & GUN to run if possible but half court 3 point Isolation.
That wont work 2 years in a row in a conference that holds enough forwards to lead the league in rebounding.

I think out of the top 10 rebounders most are from the western conference but I could be wrong.

[Legendary Gokou]

Name one guy who has come back from a major injury besides Kidd

Grant Hill?

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Cool-Breeze: I guess I didn't really direct it towards you but more the other guys.

And Grant Hill sort of came back (I didn't know he had microfracture; thought it was ankle?), but he had a gajillion other injuries it didn't really matter.

[AkumaTX]

Grant Hill?
yeah he came back, but as a serious threat? I dont think so. One more you could add to that list was Mourning in a surgery type of way.

[Hokuto Shingo]

yeah he came back, but as a serious threat? I dont think so. One more you could add to that list was Mourning in a surgery type of way.

But he was also totally useless until this year. What about all the other years he was out.

[AkumaTX]

But he was also totally useless until this year. What about all the other years he was out.
I should have posted a maybe on him, cause he did do good this year, but i dont know.

[Hoonyo]

yao came back from toe surgery and beasted

[spideyman]

what about tj ford? out a whole year and played pretty soild this year. heat in 6.

[Cool-Breeze]

Cool-Breeze: I guess I didn't really direct it towards you but more the other guys.

And Grant Hill sort of came back (I didn't know he had microfracture; thought it was ankle?), but he had a gajillion other injuries it didn't really matter.

Grant Returned mutiple times but he didn't stay around long enough to seem productive or a threat. He actually was like cancer cause his injury bug sprea all over what ever tema he was on, whenever he came back lol. Grant had maybe 3 or 4 legit years the others were pretty shitty, Oh this year he was like 16 and 6 though so maybe not all shitty.

Alonzo came back as well but he kept dropping off, he didnt even want to play with New Jersey and paid more more to get out of his contract then what he was even signed for.

T.J. Ford has been very very productive since his back injury.

I think Amare once he comes back will have some time to make up but the tremendous upside for Amare is his AGE, Most of these guys who we have and have not mentioned were in there 20's and late when they got major injuries. (McDyess for example): This guy was Mr. Double Double before Tim and Garnett, true he is a bench player now but he has shown he can post up ggod numbers if need be.

Amare is young and if the elevation on his jumps get lower he has the time NOW to add changes to his game style to STAY productive in the league.
Hopefully it will help the SUNS and not hinder them.

[donaldducktm]

I wanted Miami to go to the finals this year, and so far i'm happy with it. now, i'm somehoe leaning towards the Mavs to win it all. i don't know, but either team is good to win it this year.

[Warblade49]

Charley Rosen

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Ever since the several retirements of Michael Jordan, the NBA publicity machine has been desperate to anoint an heir apparent to his Airness. (Remember the "White Chocolate" campaign?)

These days, LeBron James is being avidly promoted as "The King." Which is all well and good, because the NBA needs a poster-player, and because James is a phenomenal performer. However, as the recent Miami-Detroit series has demonstrated, Dwyane Wade certainly has enough talent to challenge LBJ's rule.



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So the question under consideration is this: Who's better, James or Wade?

Before the specifics are addressed, however, it should be noted that a direct matchup isn't functional for two reasons: They both play different positions — Wade is primarily a shooting guard, while James is a small forward (albeit a "point/small forward" in the tradition of Rick Barry and J. J. Johnson). Also, since Miami is a much better team than Cleveland, Wade and James have different on-court responsibilities. At the same time, there are basic talents and attitudes that transcend these caveats.

Let's investigate these specific attributes and grade both James and Wade on a 1-10 scale.


Speed
While James (6-8, 240) is incredibly quick for his size, Wade (6-4, 210) is at least a step faster from baseline to baseline. Wade's lateral movement is likewise superior to LBJ's, as is the quickness with which he can take the ball to the rim.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 8


Strength/size
The only other wing/guard who compares to James in size and strength is Magic Johnson. But James is 15 pounds heavier than Magic was, and is therefore even more powerful. The only pure guard who had a combination of strength and size that's similar to Wade's was Oscar Robertson. Still, in terms of their respective positions, James has more of an edge of his contemporaries than does Wade.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 10


Ballhandling
LBJ's crossovers are unsurpassable and undefendable. He's rarely ripped, or whistled for traveling or palming. Wade's handle isn't as tricky, but he still makes more mistakes than he should. Both are susceptible to being stripped when undertaking spin moves in the upper lane area in heavy traffic.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 9


Passing
James can make every pass in the book with either hand. And since the Cavs' offense is keyed off of his dribble-penetrations, there are suitable targets everywhere. Wade isn't the Heat's primary playmaker, and most of his assists come on dump-offs in the lane. Given that Wade has so much less ball time, it's significant that his lifetime assist average (6.1) isn't that far behind LeBron's (6.6).

WADE — 8
JAMES — 10


Creating own shot
This is where LeBron's ball-handling and footwork excel. Wade depends more on the threat of his speed to create space for pull-ups. Both are incredible finishers.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 10


Spot shooting
This is a continuing problem area for James. Although his career 3-point shooting percentage is a somewhat respectable .330, he's totally erratic. If an official stat were ever to be recorded, it's highly likely that LeBron would lead the league in air-balls. Wade is another iffy 3-ball shooter. His lifetime regular season accuracy from beyond the arc is only 24.1% — but come the playoffs, Wade is 37.5% from downtown. Wade is a better mid-range shooter, has better mechanics, and is improving at a more rapid rate.

WADE — 7
JAMES — 6


Shot selection
James is frequently stuck with the ball as the shot clock counts down, but he also has a penchant for launching too many ill-advised treys. Wade rarely forces shots.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 7


Scoring
A comparison of lifetime points per game stats indicates that James' edge is substantial — 26.5 to Wade's 22.9. The difference, however, is that over the course of their brief careers, James has taken nearly 500 more shots every season. Another factor is that while Cleveland's offense goes through LBJ, Miami's mostly goes through Shaq.

WADE — 10
JAMES — 10


Effectiveness without ball
The Cavs' offense is designed so that LBJ is almost always the distributor, and therefore he's mostly uninvolved when the ball is in other hands. Cutting, curling, filling a wing on a break — these are all things that James isn't called upon to do. Wade isn't quite the perpetual-mover that Rip Hamilton is, but he is a determined cutter — especially since Shaq is such a willing passer.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 5


Defensive position
James is usually too upright in his defensive stance, plays defense with his hands and not his feet, and is more interested in blocking shots or deflecting dribbles than in playing sound positional defense. Wade is good and getting better at all aspects of defense. Wade is a slightly better defensive rotator. Both are comparable shot-blockers and stealers.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 4


Rebounding
Because of his size and closer proximity to the basket, James is a much better defensive rebounder (5.4 to Wade's 3.6). Surprisingly, though, Wade averages 1.4 offensive rebounds to LBJ's 1.2. If LeBron's rebounding numbers are just about average for a small forward, Wade's are exceptional for a guard.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 8


Consistency
Because he's the Cavs' go-to guy, LeBron is the main target of opponents' defenses. In view of this, he's remarkably consistent with everything but his exterior shooting. Since the Heat's opponents must necessarily focus on Shaq, Wade has the freedom to be much more inconsistent — a liberty which he rarely uses.

WADE — 9
JAMES — 10


Toughness
Neither player ever backs down from anybody in any circumstances.

WADE — 10
JAMES — 10


Versatility
James is effective (on offense) at all the guard and wing positions. He can post, isolate, pass on the move, and is irresistible when driving to the basket. Wade is strictly a guard, who can run, zip his way into the paint and finish, and hit an increasing number of mid-range pull-ups and fadeaways. Wade can function as a point guard only under duress.

WADE — 7
JAMES — 9


Superstar status granted by refs
LeBron's numerous traveling infractions are largely ignored. Indeed, he's treated as though he was already enshrined in the Hall of Fame. Because both are frequent flyers and drivers, they both spend considerable time at the stripe.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 10


Durability
Both are still young and virtually indestructible. Out of necessity, James plays 41.5 minutes per game — 46.5 in the playoffs. Wade's daylight is much more reasonable — 37.6 in the regular season, and 40.4 in the playoffs. Over the long haul, LBJ's inordinate playing time will increase the likelihood of his incurring serious injuries. In their respective three-year careers, James has missed a total of eight games, while Wade has been MIA for 33.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 10


In the clutch
Until Cleveland's recent first-round series against the Wizards, LBJ's output in clutch possessions has been inadequate. Expect him to build on his late-game performances versus Washington and become increasingly effective in crunch-time. Wade, however, seems to have the knack of routinely delivering in these same end-game situations. And because Shaq is such a woeful free-throw shooter, D-Ward will continue to be the Heat's go-to scorer whenever a game is on the line.

WADE — 8
JAMES — 6


Attitude
With each season, LeBron has become slightly more arrogant — although this tendency has not yet reached a critical stage. This is totally understandable given his youth and his celebrity. But, unless LBJ takes measures to resolve this potentially dangerous development, he might wind up being just one more NBA airhead. Wade's kinetic ego-power, however, is being held in check by the massive presence of Shaq.

WADE — 10
JAMES — 8

The total scores are Wade 154, James 150. However, since all the categories should not have equal weight, the face-to-face superiority of these two incredible players remains a totally subjective matter.


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If they were traded for each other, neither would be as effective. LBJ's forays into the paint would be limited by Shaq's presence and he'd be forced to rely more and on his shaky outside shooting. Wade's effectiveness would be greatly reduced without a dreadnaught pivot man, and also by having to begin his offense from a standstill.

Which player would I pick? That depends on the composition of the rest of the roster. But with a gun to my head, I'd pick Wade because of his defense, the perfectibility of his shot release, the fact that he can score mucho points without having every play run through him, and because of his truly humble nature.

But wouldn't we all love to see them play one-on-one? If the game was make-it-take it, then whoever had the first possession would win every time. In that scenario, LeBron's being able to win the opening jump ball would be his ultimate advantage.

Charley Rosen is FOXSports.com's NBA analyst and author of 13 books about hoops, the current one being "The pivotal season — How the 1971-72 L.A. Lakers changed the NBA."

[Hokuto Shingo]

I would like to take this time to let everyone know that:

In the decade of the '90s, Dallas had the lowest winning percentage of any team in the NBA. Or NFL. Or NHL. Or Major League Baseball.

Go Mavs

[totaltoanage]

Not really. cowboys were upstoppable for a couple years in the mid-early 90s. and Stars own during late 90s. Only baseball is dallas's worst sport.

[Hokuto Shingo]

In the decade of the '90s, Dallas(Mavericks) had the lowest winning percentage of any team in the NBA. Or NFL. Or NHL. Or Major League Baseball.


Toan, the Mavs were the worst franchise in America in the 90's

[TrunksSS3]

Toan, the Mavs were the worst franchise in America in the 90's


yes in deed they were..can't wait till thursday

[Anubis]

This should be an interesting series w/ The Mavericks in the finals against The Heat. I'm sure Mark Cuban's ego is so inflated right now.

[donaldducktm]

talk about a game face

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[Biggzy]

The Heat are gonna take it this year. They're just too nasty.

[AkumaTX]

The Heat are gonna take it this year. They're just too nasty.
Looks at location. Opinion voided.

[Cool-Breeze]

Looks at location. Opinion voided.


:wonder: :rofl: :rofl: :wonder:

Yep, umm has Miami suddenly found a way to run consistently now??
Or have they figured out a way to at least contain Dirk??
Oh Oh its all on Shaq now despite the fact that everyone says this is Dwayne Wade's team (Which it is), I will see plenty of sportscasters, sports writers, etc.

Say that Shaq Must have a good or great Series for them to win, So who's team does this belong to again??

[Biggzy]

Looks at location. Opinion voided.

Ur right, my bad. How are the Rockets doing?

[Hokuto Shingo]

Who you guys taking right now? Devin Harris or J-Will.

[Cool-Breeze]

Who you guys taking right now? Devin Harris or J-Will.

Normally I would choose the Veteran over the Rookie but in this case what would we be base-ing this off of??
If its skill then im giving it to Devin Harris Why?

Because he is less turnover prone, He seems to have a great grasp on the game plan set by avery johnson, he keeps his speed under control while running plays, driving to the basket like a tru point guard should do.

Jason on the other hand I don't know, much is not asked of him from his particular position, I think they ask more of Gary Payton then Williams, they may in this series call upon him to play catch up and at least stay in front of the young man due to GP not having his speed up to par.

I would like to go with Dallas in this one but I think Rebounding will be a BIG ISSUE, I also think Miami's bench players have shown the ability to throw a wrench in the opponents game plans by actually doing the un-expected, like Playing good "D", or Hitting open three pointers.

Im hope-ing to see a great series though my opinion ummm 4-2 in favor of....

[spideyman]

since i'm from milwaukee and saw harris play at UWM, i'd give the edge to harris. he's gonna be able to blow right by j will or GP. he's too quick and his youth will help with energy.

[totaltoanage]

devin is the next tony parker, even faster. he just needs more experience in certain situations and need to learn how to 1-2 step into layups like parker does it. Right now it seems like hes just driving.

Also a PG needs to shoot the ball well like nash, hes showing improvement in his FGs but nothing in the 3s zone.

[AkumaTX]

Ur right, my bad. How are the Rockets doing?
So the team begins to win and you hop on the bandwagon.

Rockets are resting. Wait ill brb right back. I was washing my 2 favorite tshirts. You know how it goes. Your team wins a championship and you buy gear. Oh wait you dont know. Sorry but maybe some day you'll buy MIAMI NBA FINALS CHAMPIONS tshirts, but i do know for a fact it wont be this year.

[TGC]

So the team begins to win and you hop on the bandwagon.

Rockets are resting. Wait ill brb right back. I was washing my 2 favorite tshirts. You know how it goes. Your team wins a championship and you buy gear. Oh wait you dont know. Sorry but maybe some day you'll buy MIAMI NBA FINALS tshirts, but i do know for a fact it wont be this year.

Why can't he buy it this year? I mean...They are in the finals afterall..

*Maybe you meant Miami NBA Champions? Don't let someone's else opinion blow your top so much you can't think correctly anymore

[AkumaTX]

Why can't he buy it this year? I mean...They are in the finals afterall..

*Maybe you meant Miami NBA Champions? Don't let someone's else opinion blow your top so much you can't think correctly anymore
fixed just for you. Blah this much wait for game 1 is stupid. 2 days rest is enough.

[Biggzy]

So the team begins to win and you hop on the bandwagon.

Rockets are resting. Wait ill brb right back. I was washing my 2 favorite tshirts. You know how it goes. Your team wins a championship and you buy gear. Oh wait you dont know. Sorry but maybe some day you'll buy MIAMI NBA FINALS CHAMPIONS tshirts, but i do know for a fact it wont be this year.

Don't give me that shit, I've been a heat fan since they had Rony Seikaly, as well as back in the day when they lost to the knicks in the playoffs like every year.

HAHAHAHA, your two favorite shirts are Houston Rockets Championship shirts. Time to get some new clothes there chief.

You know for a fact they won't win this year? Hmm, we'll see.

...in the meantime Go Rockets! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TrunksSS3]

Rockets are resting. Wait ill brb right back. I was washing my 2 favorite tshirts. You know how it goes. Your team wins a championship and you buy gear. Oh wait you dont know. Sorry but maybe some day you'll buy MIAMI NBA FINALS CHAMPIONS tshirts, but i do know for a fact it wont be this year.


ha ha nice one
:rofl:


and hell yeah 2 days rest is enough! its so dumb to wait like almost a week

[Hokuto Shingo]

YEAAAAAAAAH!!! Thats right bitches!

[Lantis]

Damn, Shaq's elbows are like Rocket Punches...first Dirk gets one in the jaw, then he busts Stackhouse's nose wide open. :wow:

Too bad Miami got PUNKED! Jordan w/flu assist > Wade w/flu assist

And whoa...did Mark Cuban just mention...Shaq Fu? :wtf:

Goddamn T.O....he plays for the Dallas Cowboys...and goes to the game wearing...a Miami Heat shirt? The guy's already started on a left foot.

[TrunksSS3]

MAV'S baby 1-0

[Lantis]

Uhh...why do we have to wait all the way to Sunday for Game 2? Damn retarded finals schedule.... :annoy:

Oh well, more the reason to watch the World Cup, baby! :tup:

[TrunksSS3]

Uhh...why do we have to wait all the way to Sunday for Game 2? Damn retarded finals schedule.... :annoy:

Oh well, more the reason to watch the World Cup, baby! :tup:


i dont understand all these dam layoff's...

[Silentness!]

Goddamn T.O....he plays for the Dallas Cowboys...and goes to the game wearing...a Miami Heat shirt? The guy's already started on a left foot.

For good luck. Just like Terry wears the opposing team's shorts the night before the game which seems kind of freaky. :confused:

[DanielLarusso]

Damn, Shaq's elbows are like Rocket Punches...first Dirk gets one in the jaw, then he busts Stackhouse's nose wide open. :wow:

Too bad Miami got PUNKED! Jordan w/flu assist > Wade w/flu assist

And whoa...did Mark Cuban just mention...Shaq Fu? :wtf:

Goddamn T.O....he plays for the Dallas Cowboys...and goes to the game wearing...a Miami Heat shirt? The guy's already started on a left foot.

Shaq Fu is actually one of Shaq's many nicknames, before the video game came about. Chances are Cuban was mentioning it referring to his nickname, as apposed to referring to the video game. I didn't see the mention in question though.

And damn, yeah T.O. is really trying to get things started the wrong way with the ppl in Dallas.

[Lantis]

For good luck. Just like Terry wears the opposing team's shorts the night before the game which seems kind of freaky. :confused:

Nah, they interviewed him and he said he liked Shaq because they were much alike. So he blatantly accepted that he was rooting for the Heat. :looney:

[DaliPicard]

:sad: Dallas is scaring me, please I need a Heat fan to reassure me.

[donaldducktm]

kobe on best damn sports show period

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5674782

[DaliPicard]

kobe on best damn sports show period

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5674782

How much is Kazaam? :rofl:

[The D Man]

It hurts so much to have just watched that.

Please Pat, you need to make some kind of coaching adjustments NOW.

[AKUMA2000]

Wow, the Heat are down 0-2....could have sworn shaq and company would be dominating.

Looks like the Mavs mean busines.....

[TrunksSS3]

MAV'S 2-0 lets go 2 more

[totaltoanage]

how about them mavs

[AkumaTX]

and the media still isnt giving credit to the MAVS, its like if they want the heat to win.

[jchensor]

I think my brother put it properly: the Heat are about one bad half away from imploding and pointing fingers. The look on Shaq's face when he didn't get the ball that one time certainly shows that he's getting a little impatient with his teammates. Being a Lakers fan for quite a few years now, I know how Miami feels: some games, even though your goal is to get it into Shaq, it just doesn't happen. It doesn't make sense either. It's like Shaq's teammates just somehow... forget or something.

Yes, I'll give Dallas credit for some timely double-teams, but the Heat ahve to step it up in order to score for Shaq. If they don't, why should Dallas ever stop doubling Shaq?

This comforts me in many ways. 1) I want Dallas to win. 2) People can start seeing, now, it really isn't Kobe who hogged the ball away from Shaq. It's just something that happens to all Shaq teams, it's unexplainable.

In any case, if the Heat start game 3 poorly, you can expect some realy questions to be raised, and some malcontent within the team. If it gets really bad, I think the Mavs will sweep. I don't expect it to really happen, though, due mostly to Pat Riley's credibility. I think he can muster the Heat goether for a monster Game 3. The Heat, though, should not believe they've got things figured out if they win Game 3. Any sort of mental breakdown, and they will fall down 3-1 losing Game 4.

It's definitely Dallas' championship to take now. But a 2-0 lead doesn't mean anyhting. I won't get myself too confident in anything this playoffs year. After all, I did say I was a Laker fan.

- James
http://jchensor.blogspot.com

[donaldducktm]

Ditto for me Jchensor. Although i think Dallas has some nifty defense techniques..also they work as a team and the have a great coach in Avery Johnson.

as a HUGE laker fan, i want Shaq to be successful in this series....only scoring 5 points with 2/5 shots taken, it disappoints me that the Heat aren't looking for him.

[Anubis]

Damn! Miami is 0 - 2 so far in the finals! After seeing Shaq getting shut down to only 19 points in game 1, I kinda worried about just how dominating he would be in the finals. Years ago, he was averaging at least 32 ppg in the finals.

Game 3 is the deciding factor for the NBA finals. Since the Heat will have home field advantage, hopefully they will be able to take advantage & stay alive.

[Robust]

LOL

It's true that Kobe didn't hog/keep the ball away from Shaq, but he is still a ball-fucking-hog. I don't blame him doing it with his current team, but lake-show was hotcakes and he still hogged. Kobe is just a bitch. Plain and Simple, the biggest bitch in the nba. And quite possibly, the world.

No love for Kobe "bean" bryant.

[Robust]

LOL

It's true that Kobe didn't hog/keep the ball away from Shaq, but he is still a ball-fucking-hog. I don't blame him doing it with his current team, but lake-show was hotcakes and he still hogged. Kobe is just a bitch. Plain and Simple, the biggest bitch in the nba. And quite possibly, the world.

No love for Kobe "bean" bryant.

[Robust]

I don't think a double post was enough.

[DanielLarusso]

Write it down, take it to the bank and cash the fucking check:

GGPO Heat.

This is headed for no more than six games, and that's if the heat are lucky and Joey Crawford decides to work his magic. This series is going pretty much like I thought, but hoped it wouldn't. I like both these teams and DON'T CARE who wins, but I'd at least like to see a COMPETITIVE finals. The Heat should've let Detroit come in if they were gonna roll over like this, but the Pistons were rolling over too. The real NBA Finals was Dallas vs. San Antonio.

I don't think its just as easy as feed Shaq and your problem is solved, but there's no way he should have five points on 2/5 shooting, especially after that eternity of rest he had since game 2. Can't point all the fingers at his teamates, some have to be pointed his way. He's no longer "Shaq," he's just Shaquille now.

[accord]

I wonder why Pat doesnt put shaq and mourning on the court together like the twin towers of duncan and robinson back in the days.

[Taito]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/oly_full.getty-bkn-finals-heat-maverick-wade-oneal_12_34_30_am.jpg

[Cletus Kasady]

I wonder why Pat doesnt put shaq and mourning on the court together like the twin towers of duncan and robinson back in the days.

Which of those two would you suggest to guard Nowitzki?

[4neqs]

Funny how all three Texan teams and both Florida teams have now made the finals. I hope Shaq doesn't set a trend of "gets swept when in the finals with a Florida team"... I'll gladly take something like 4-1. ;B

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

I had to check the stat sheet a couple of times.

Shaq took FIVE shots? FIVE?!?

[Hokuto Shingo]

Man...downtown Dallas was shakin last night. Dont worry I'll post my pics from the parade.

[Cool-Breeze]

I wonder why Pat doesnt put shaq and mourning on the court together like the twin towers of duncan and robinson back in the days.

Well one that option doesn't work in the heats favor due to the fact that Dallas can run and play at a slower pace, they also can shoot the jumper pretty well with Stackhouse, Van horn, Terry, Dirk, which means either way the centers would have to come further out.
I posted before the Guard positions would hurt the heat but I honestly thought the biggest thing to hold them back would be REBOUNDING, and now that Haslem is out, Shaq's garbage man things will get ALOT HARDER.

Man...downtown Dallas was shakin last night. Dont worry I'll post my pics from the parade.

Ya'll Mother Fuckers had a parade and ya'll aint even won the series yet WTF!!!
I know the Odds are against the HEAT but damn man ask yo peeps to clam the fuck down.

Write it down, take it to the bank and cash the fucking check:

GGPO Heat.

This is headed for no more than six games, and that's if the heat are lucky and Joey Crawford decides to work his magic. This series is going pretty much like I thought, but hoped it wouldn't. I like both these teams and DON'T CARE who wins, but I'd at least like to see a COMPETITIVE finals. The Heat should've let Detroit come in if they were gonna roll over like this, but the Pistons were rolling over too. The real NBA Finals was Dallas vs. San Antonio.

I don't think its just as easy as feed Shaq and your problem is solved, but there's no way he should have five points on 2/5 shooting, especially after that eternity of rest he had since game 2. Can't point all the fingers at his teamates, some have to be pointed his way. He's no longer "Shaq," he's just Shaquille now.

Yea your right but then again why isnt anyone in this thread crediting the Mavs for doing a good job of DENYING Shaq on the entry passes, Double Teaming on time and proficent enough to keep him from throwing up High percentage shots???
When Shaq gets Doubled now he is faced with 2 7 footers in either Dirk or Diop or Dampier so its hard for him to see shit, I think that is great defense.

I have watched the NBA FINALS Series they had on ESPN's Classic.
They actually showed the important games and a few ENTIRE serieses.
I also have alot on VHS from back then during the Laker era and before.

Anyways Kobe never really held the ball from Shaq, there worst season together in all honesty was when Kobe got caught up in the Denver Scandal, when he called Shaq out of shape, and when he voiced his opinions about Payton, Malone, and Shaq being the one to go and get these guys upon there team.
It was nolonger a team environment, Attitudes didn't gel etc.
This Miami Heat team is similer because it WASN"T built for the future or continued runs at the championship, it was built to keep Shaq's promise at at least ONE TITLE. That Laker team that was built, was built to get ONE MORE Ring out of Kobe and Shaq before the split was official, This shouldn't be nothing new to people at all.
I have voiced this all year and threw the playoffs, the HEAT's Bench is good ON PAPER due to Names and OLD stats, there current work is damn near ike the Wizards (Off and On).
I also posted that even though people say this is WADE's team, Shaq needs to be the one to get off, and if he doesn't they won't win, Blame it all on Wade's so called flu all you want I just think they have found a way to slow him down, exspecially if the team is telling the media he has been sick since the NETS series or even before then.

[totaltoanage]

The real NBA Finals was Dallas vs. San Antonio.

This is sooooo true, best playoff series of the 2006 playoffs. I was scared of SA more than any team in the NBA this year. Dirk is too godly.

[Legend II]

You guys aren't being fair with the Heat.

Miami is a very good team. The only thing is that Dallas is better and more versatile plus they're well coached and they are playing the style that bothers the Heat the most.

In other words, Dallas is a counter team for Miami. But this doesn't mean Miami sucks, it's just bad timing. The same thing would have happened to Detroit if they went instead.

[Hokuto Shingo]

In other words, Dallas is a counter team for Miami. But this doesn't mean Miami sucks, it's just bad timing. The same thing would have happened to Detroit if they went instead.

It just appears that Dallas is just more talented than Miami and more complete. Its not a knock against Miami to say that.

[Cool-Breeze]

You guys aren't being fair with the Heat.

Miami is a very good team. The only thing is that Dallas is better and more versatile plus they're well coached and they are playing the style that bothers the Heat the most.

In other words, Dallas is a counter team for Miami. But this doesn't mean Miami sucks, it's just bad timing. The same thing would have happened to Detroit if they went instead.

BULL SHIT

Now im not saying Detroit would whoop there ass, Due to the Mavs having a deeper bench then both the last 2 Eastern Conference Teams I still think Dallas would win the series but due to Detroit not even expected to have a GOOD or PRODUCTIVE bench, that gives them a heavy advantage because anything added by Lindsey Hunter, A.McDyess would actually put them over there usual limit, Plus when in the hell did Miami start playing defense better than Detroit???

The HEAT's Point Guard position is not going at the guards of the Mavs like they should, Detroit im quite sure would have. Both Payton and Billups are 6'4, both would post up a smaller guard if given the ok (Riley has not given GP the green light)
Wade isn't easy to contain by anymeans but then again Miami seems to be a bit more predictable lately.
Rip moves well without the ball, Wade often stands in certain areas to recieve the ball then slashes to the hoop, due to Rip being way more active WITHOUT the rock this makes him harder to guard (Similer to Reggie Miller).
When Wade slashes to the rim he often runs the same lanes etc, this could either be by BAD or GOOD defense we dont know for sure if Dallas plans it to be that way or not but if he is driving the same way almost everytime, that alone makes him not much of a threat once you seal off that area he tramples the most.

Detroit is sizable inside, A healthy Rasheed Ment limited rebounding for Diop or Dampier and that also ment FOUL TROUBLE which the HEAT haven't really gotten the Mavs big men into yet. Ben can guard Dirk one on one or Sheed could, the longer arms of Detroit could make Dirk SETTLE rather than drive, Versus Miami he is often left with a smaller opponent which gives an 80% advantage almost everytime he gets posession of the ball.
Prince,Sheed,& Ben would cause hella problems for Dallas, Josh Howard would not get to many free runs to the baskets, Stackhouse isnt that fast as is so what do you think he would do when guarded by a lengthy opponent??

This series is over in 2 games DaliPicard because there is no way in hell the HEAT are going to win 3 games at home AND Win one game away that is like the hardest shit to do in the NBA Check the history, Myself and WARBLADE 49 had a discussion about this earlier this morning over the phone, because he hates the Format the NBA FINALS are in, (Different from the 7 game series leading up to the finals)
You would feel safe to assume it is easier to win at home right??
Well that would mean after 3 straight games at home they would still have to travel to Texas and win there, which they have shown currently unable to do.

[Robust]

Mavs remind me old school blazers that had SERIOUS battles with the lakers. Blazers = over-loaded with talent in the foward position (Pippen, Wallace, Wells, O'neal)
Mavs = over-loaded with talent in the guard position (terry, daniels, howard, stackhouse)

O_O

[DaliPicard]

Last time I checked Best of sevens aren't one in two games.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Last time I checked Best of sevens aren't one in two games.
Actually, in the NBA Finals if a team wins the first 2 games they are 10-0.

[Legendary Gokou]

I think what he's trying to get at is that the series isn't over. Which is true .... although Dallas will still win it.


Remember ; SA had 2 blowouts at home, then the series went to 7. I think this series will go at least 5. 6 if Miami is lucky.

[The GOAT]

Am I crazy for thinking that Riles should start Zo over Shaq? I definitely don't think he's getting enough minutes in this series as it is, but after those two garbage-ass performances on Shaq's end, and Zo's consistent productivity in his limited role, I think Zo deserves it.

Do not underestimate the powers of the Zo Summer Groove.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Am I crazy for thinking that Riles should start Zo over Shaq?


Yes...you are crazy

[GeoG2]

Shaq is mad.

Angry Shaq + crowd assist = win.

[totaltoanage]

93% of 2-0 winning series in finals. GL Miami, you need it. LOL

[colguile]

Anyone got a link to the piece they did on the top ten dunks of all time?

The one with shawn kemo at #7?

Thanks.

[accord]

Which of those two would you suggest to guard Nowitzki?

mourning can guard nowitzki and put a body on him. And with his shot blocking abilities, he can change dirks shots. Maybe a hard foul or two on dirk will deter him from driving to the basket.

With the combination of mourning and shaq, they have a better chance to getting more rebounds and both shoots a higher percentage shots. The only draw back I see with the mourning-shaq combo is both are horrendous at the free throw line.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Colguile, are you talking about the clip that was on Inside the NBA? Top 10 ingame dunks of all time?

I don't have a link, but if you hit me on AIM I can send it to ya...

[Cletus Kasady]

If they put either center on Nowitzki, he takes them either to his sweet spot (either elbow) or the three-point line, and they can't stay keep him from driving unless they sag into the paint, meaning he's free for his shot. They could try the hard foul, but it likely won't work on 2006 Dirk, and only one center's necessary to do that if he gets to the bucket; they have to like their chances better with Haslem/Posey out on him because they are quicker.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Just as long as Toine doesn't end up guarding Dirk. Good lord that was bad.

[GeoG2]

It's really hard to say what Miami has to do to win. It isn't like Dirk has been the one killing them... the role players have. So it isn't like they have to do adjustments to contain him.

They need to do a better job at bodying Terry and Howard. Posey has been doing a good job at taking charges... but that's usually Haslem's job. But since his shoulder injury, his effectiveness is probably lowered (he'll play tonight though).

Wade needs to come alive, but he's not 100%...

This series has Dallas written all over it.

[Cool-Breeze]

It's really hard to say what Miami has to do to win. It isn't like Dirk has been the one killing them... the role players have. So it isn't like they have to do adjustments to contain him.

They need to do a better job at bodying Terry and Howard. Posey has been doing a good job at taking charges... but that's usually Haslem's job. But since his shoulder injury, his effectiveness is probably lowered (he'll play tonight though).

Wade needs to come alive, but he's not 100%...

This series has Dallas written all over it.

Totally correct on that one playa, but who can they trhow out there to put a body on the guards, but in the process NOT hurt there team on the Offensive side due to possible foul trouble??

I thought Doleac was a good choice to play because he has a nice jump shot and could help when Shaq is being double teamed early, If you got 2 6'9 or higher opponents to defend then the double teams would have to come from guys much smaller and that would allow Shaq to shot over top of them, maybe even calculate some AND 1's instead of just getting fouled.

P.S. Future NBA Draft pick J.J. Redick is out of jail finally, he was incarcerated for DUI last night Pffft

[Hokuto Shingo]

This series has Dallas written all over it.

Yeah...its about to be signed sealed AND delivered in a few hours.


I been waitin on this all my muthafuckin life

[Cletus Kasady]

P.S. Future NBA Draft pick J.J. Redick is out of jail finally, he was incarcerated for DUI last night Pffft

I'm so looking forward to hearing that his stock dropped only to have him get picked by Portland while they throw it to a speechless Vitale. I wonder if this means he'll be a little less proud about his man-crush on all things Duke.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what the songs were that played during the introduction of both teams?

I heard Phil Collins in there, as well as a trance song that sounded strangely familiar...

[Robust]

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what the songs were that played during the introduction of both teams?

I heard Phil Collins in there, as well as a trance song that sounded strangely familiar...
Bring em out -T.I.

I don't remmber the other.

[Biggzy]

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what the songs were that played during the introduction of both teams?

I heard Phil Collins in there, as well as a trance song that sounded strangely familiar...

I think you're talking about Robert Miles - Children

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Hah, that's the one.

Fuck Phil Collins.

[donaldducktm]

heat are getting manhandled....poor Shaq/Wade =(

Edit: heat now down by 5. a jinx, but a good jinx

[Lantis]

Hah hah...Miami Heat got BURRRRRNNNNNNEEED! (pun intended)

FINISH HIM!

*cue Fatality music* TON TEE DUUUUUUUUUUN!

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Wow...I had it on, Dallas up by 13. I look back, Miami up by one.

Wtf?!?

[Silentness!]

Dirk... now is not a good time to miss a free throw.

[Biggzy]

Wow, Dirk choked it up.

[jae hoon]

All I will say is Dick Bavetta is the Heats MVP

Good job Knick Bavetta

[SynikaL]

lol. Miami didn't win this game, Dallas lost. I'm proud of em' though, they showed heart in the stretch.


Miami's doomed though. They just don't have the legs to run with the Mavs. I'd be surprised if this goes to six.



-Syn

[AKUMA2000]

lol. Miami didn't win this game, Dallas lost. I'm proud of em' though, they showed heart in the stretch.


Miami's doomed though. They just don't have the legs to run with the Mavs. I'd be surprised if this goes to six.



-Syn


I agree.

[Stuckey]

Those refs are gonna get treated to booze and hot, moist, Miami hookers for their good work tonight.

Fuck the heat.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Well I'll say only this. This won't go back to Dallas. And oh yeah...there's really no point in making a thread called "Dwyane FUCKIN Wade" you didn't see me coming on here making stupid thread about Dirk droppin 50.

[DanielLarusso]

Normally when a team wins you think they have momentum, but as much as I hate to say it with Miami tonight it seems as they're gonna be exhausted from this win. They basically had to have it, and almost gave it away. It takes a HUGE effort from Miami and a huge collapse from Dallas (Dirk, a 90 plus percent free throw shooter missing a clutch free throw) for Miami to eek one out by two points.

Oh well, at least it's a series now and game 4 will be worth watching.

[SynikaL]

It takes a HUGE effort from Miami and a huge collapse from Dallas (Dirk, a 90 plus percent free throw shooter missing a clutch free throw) for Miami to eek one out by two points.

I laugh hysterically when people mention statistics like these.

Dirk may have made 90% of his free throws during the regular/post season, but he's never shot a pair free throws like those two in his life.

Statistics get lost in a whirlwind of pressure and emotions in the NBA Finals.


-Kimo

[Cisco]

I'm for maimi, every single person i know is for the mavs and i think that sucks. Maimi for the win.

[flyboyz2000k]

I am rooting for Miami. I didnt like how they played game 2 and they barely won this game I give props mostly to dwyane Wade for bailing them out. Notice in this game that the mavs suprisingly got hot and came back to take the lead but then they werent able to keep the high shooting percentage towards the end. Miami needs to up the Defense and have Shaq play way better than tonight, but big props for hitting the free throws and have wade keep making plays like he did tonight and getting 40 - 50 points.

[Cletus Kasady]

I laugh hysterically when people mention statistics like these.

Dirk may have made 90% of his free throws during the regular/post season, but he's never shot a pair free throws like those two in his life.

There's all the FTs he made down the stretch in Game 3 vs SA, as well as capping off that 3-point play in Game 7. Which I think was big, considering those are looking like the real NBA Finals right now.

Miami looks outmatched. They were amped up on their home floor and getting the benefit of the doubt on all their drives and they were still down big until Wade started going crazy. Plus they'll need to win in Dallas.

[Anubis]

Talk about a lucky win for Miami! They were down the entire game then exploded on a 22 - 7 run to barely win by 2 points.

Miami really didn't win, Dallas let them have that game.

It must be frustrating for Shaq being doubled covered by two guys his size.

[Biggzy]

Talk about a lucky win for Miami! They were down the entire game then exploded on a 22 - 7 run to barely win by 2 points.

Miami really didn't win, Dallas let them have that game.

It must be frustrating for Shaq being doubled covered by two guys his size.

Yes, that must be the case. I'm sure Dallas said "you know what would make this series crazy, if we LET miami have this game."

:rolleyes:

[Hoonyo]

if he's gonna make 90% of them, he's going to miss 10% of them. don't you guys know math?

[Cool-Breeze]

Talk about a lucky win for Miami! They were down the entire game then exploded on a 22 - 7 run to barely win by 2 points.

Miami really didn't win, Dallas let them have that game.

It must be frustrating for Shaq being doubled covered by two guys his size.

What the fuck game were you watching mo-fo??? You must've been watching Sportscenter or reading the misprint on your local news paper.
Well it goes like this, Dallas was down for most of the night from what I viewed either they were within 6 point range, or the largest lead was about 11 points.

Dallas Settled for jump shots instead of taking it right to the Heat, well actually they did drive a few times but some good calls were made by the refs, Van Horn and Stack got charging calls called on times when they needed those points the most.

Miami was STILL out played, the 3rd quarter Dallas showed that they could turn it on against the HEAT almost when ever they wanted to, only problem is it didn't stay consistent in this particualar game.

I feel this will in 4-1 in Dallas's favor.

[TGC]

Talk about a lucky win for Miami! They were down the entire game then exploded on a 22 - 7 run to barely win by 2 points.

Miami really didn't win, Dallas let them have that game.

It must be frustrating for Shaq being doubled covered by two guys his size.

Down the entire game? I hate people.

[DaliPicard]

All I will say is Dick Bavetta is the Heats MVP

Good job Knick Bavetta

Ummmm Dick Bavetta calls offensive fouls on Shaq when he accidently sneezes on the defender WTF are you talking about?

[TGC]

Refs are gonna make like a million bad calls, but when games are that close, the players need to make their shots. Dirk missed a hell of a lot of shots in the beginning, and miami heat made theirs when it really counted, like wade making his jumpers, and payton doing the fake into the jumper in the closing minutes.

[Biggzy]

Ummmm Dick Bavetta calls offensive fouls on Shaq when he accidently sneezes on the defender WTF are you talking about?

Amen to that. If he just turns around, people fly all over the place. I mean shit, whats he supposed to do? His arms are probably close to 100 lbs. Then you have people like Devin Harris who weigh like a buck 25 right under the net, of course he's gonna get knocked on his ass.

Tomorrows game is gonna be crazy.

[Stuckey]

Shaq's fat ass is too big to be playin. You gotta play a 325 lb. 7 foot man like that. If he doesn't like the show, he can change the channel. Or learn how to dribble and shoot free throws like a BASKETBALL PLAYER.

[Biggzy]

Shaq's fat ass is too big to be playin. You gotta play a 325 lb. 7 foot man like that. If he doesn't like the show, he can change the channel. Or learn how to dribble and shoot free throws like a BASKETBALL PLAYER.

That's not his job. So what he can't shoot free throws? I mean it sucks but what can ya do. If he could shoot free throws he'd be unstoppable.

[TGC]

Also about the calls: That one offensive foul that got called against shaq, when he got the ball and spun around and elbowed dirk. He didn't see him, and second, dirk didn't give him any room to spin, which is a rule in the rulebook, just like you must give the opponent space to land when they're in the air.

And second, they called a hanging on wade, but not on dampier.

This blame ref bullshit is gay.

[donaldducktm]

Also about the calls: That one offensive foul that got called against shaq, when he got the ball and spun around and elbowed dirk. He didn't see him, and second, dirk didn't give him any room to spin, which is a rule in the rulebook, just like you must give the opponent space to land when they're in the air.

And second, they called a hanging on wade, but not on dampier.

This blame ref bullshit is gay.
dude it's like saying when a defender comes up to take a charge, they must give him space to elevate for a shot or get posterized. same deal

and for the hanging on the rim, Wade hanged and pulled himself up just a little.
Dampier dunked, did NOT pull himself up. this was a close call on Wade BTW.

when refs make bullshit calls, it's part of the game. every game will have tough calls and it's up to the refs to decide them. not anyone else. it's tough to see something that the refs don't see, but we have to deal with it.

[Cisco]

All i have to say is that i'm very exited about this finals. I'm straight up maimi, and if they loose (w/c 60% of me believes) lord knows how pissed i'll be at the world. Good thing i refused to bet mymoney on, but still. Maimi must win.

[TGC]

dude it's like saying when a defender comes up to take a charge, they must give him space to elevate for a shot or get posterized. same deal

and for the hanging on the rim, Wade hanged and pulled himself up just a little.
Dampier dunked, did NOT pull himself up. this was a close call on Wade BTW.

when refs make bullshit calls, it's part of the game. every game will have tough calls and it's up to the refs to decide them. not anyone else. it's tough to see something that the refs don't see, but we have to deal with it.

that's why i said blame the ref bullshit is gay.

of course they're gonna miss calls that fans see.

There's 3 of them, compared to the millions of fans.

But the refs had nothing to do with shaq making those free throws, and dirk missing his, and payton making a huge shot, and wade going nuts.

[TrunksSS3]

There's all the FTs he made down the stretch in Game 3 vs SA, as well as capping off that 3-point play in Game 7. Which I think was big, considering those are looking like the real NBA Finals right now.
.


yeah this is so true! he never chokes

[Kool-Aid Ryu]

yeah this is so true! he never chokes



Until now

[donaldducktm]

But the refs had nothing to do with shaq making those free throws, and dirk missing his, and payton making a huge shot, and wade going nuts.
i was just quoting about the referee on making calls, not skilled plays.

[SynikaL]

You people don't get it. This is the NBA Finals. Don't think that just because it's another set of games in the post season that you can put these games in the same category as the playoffs. The gravity of Dirk's situation in Game 3 changes shape in new context. The Playoffs is a fight for survival. The NBA Finals is a fight for everything. Dirk's never been there before. I totally expected him to miss one of those free throws (though he almost fooled me with how calmly he sinked the first one).

If any of you have ever done anything competitive (and I'm assuming most of you play games), then you should understand this.


-Syn

[totaltoanage]

precisely. even great players choke.

[Silentness!]

lol yeah Dirk may have "choked", but his statistics ARE 90% not 100%. That just so happened to be one of his missed FTs...

[TrunksSS3]

what a guy can't miss for once? no 1 shoot's 100%

[Hoonyo]

yeah i said this last page

apparently nobody knows basic math

[SynikaL]

Anyone still bringing up that 90% statistic is completely missing the point.



-Syn

[Taito]

Yeah it has to do with psychological, not ability or talent. And that's definitely playing a role in the first half, especially since Mourning can Flagrant Foul Dirk without the refs making the call..

(Oh, and big thanks to lseelba for helping me watch my first live NBA game in like 1 1/2 years :smile: )

[Anubis]

Damn! Dallas is shooting @ 36%, while Miami is shooting @ 59% right now & leading in the third by 12.

Plus, they're not giving up a lot of turnovers like they have been doing lately.

I see the series now being tied @ 2 - 2!

[4neqs]

LOL @ the David Hasselhoff chants and cutouts

[Biggzy]

RAAAAAAPE!

Hell yeah 2-2 bitches

[DanielLarusso]

Holy shit I didn't see this one coming. WE GOT A SERIES!

[Silentness!]

I find the games boring when one side is destroying the other. I like when the game is actually close the whole way through :sad:

[AKUMA2000]

I think the series will go the full 7 games......

[Anubis]

I think the series will go the full 7 games......Thats what Avery Johnson said from the start of the series. I have to concur.

[AKUMA2000]

Thats what Avery Johnson said from the start of the series. I have to concur.

Looks like we're gonna be seeing alot of "up and down" and "cold and hot" gameplay from both sides.

[GeoG2]

This still isn't a series. For the simple fact that Miami would eventually have to close out on the road, and that this was more of a night off for Dallas' offense moreso the defense of Miami.

I can envision Miami winning all three home games, but will still get thrashed in the last two games in Dallas.

We'll see.

[Cletus Kasady]

Anyone still bringing up that 90% statistic is completely missing the point.

-Syn

He made the first like nothing and the second one rimmed out, so I think it's fairly relevant. Were it something like Peja's airball in 2002 or if he shortarmed it by a significant amount, I'd chalk it up to nerves and say he choked.

I just think it's outlandish to address every miscue made in the last two minutes of a game where imperfections run amok as "choking". If Dwyane Wade hadn't been able to break up that alley-oop and the Mavs won in OT, would you have said that Wade choked?

[Def1n1tely]

haha i frigging crack up everytime antoine walker shoots a 3

[Kool-Aid Ryu]

This still isn't a series. For the simple fact that Miami would eventually have to close out on the road, and that this was more of a night off for Dallas' offense moreso the defense of Miami.

I can envision Miami winning all three home games, but will still get thrashed in the last two games in Dallas.

We'll see.



Wouldnt that be a series :confused:

[SynikaL]

He made the first like nothing and the second one rimmed out, so I think it's fairly relevant. Were it something like Peja's airball in 2002 or if he shortarmed it by a significant amount, I'd chalk it up to nerves and say he choked.

I just think it's outlandish to address every miscue made in the last two minutes of a game where imperfections run amok as "choking". If Dwyane Wade hadn't been able to break up that alley-oop and the Mavs won in OT, would you have said that Wade choked?

Though I never explicitly stated anything about Dirk "choking", seriously, if I really have to explain myself here, I'm in the wrong thread.


-Syn

[GeoG2]

Wouldnt that be a series :confused:

A series is when a team has a chance.

Miami is simply delaying the inevitable right now.

[Biggzy]

A series is when a team has a chance.

Miami is simply delaying the inevitable right now.

Move to Dallas scrub.

[Hoonyo]

haha i frigging crack up everytime antoine walker shoots a 3i laugh even harder when he bricks it which is like 99% of the time

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

*Thinks of what would happen if Phoenix was playing Miami WITH Amare*

[Cool-Breeze]

First off DIRK did not choke, he just didnt shoot the ball the second time the usual way that he does, it would be choking if he just kept going to the line all night long and bricked them all like another NBA player who lays claim to being the top three best centers in nBA history but hasn't stepped up his game at the line despite telling the world for years that he MUST make the free throws in order for his team to win.

Secondly now that Miami has evened the series up, IT IS NOW A SERIES.
Despite the fact that I WANT Dallas to win and I am a big fan of there's if Miami wins out at home all they need is ONE GAME in TEXAS just one.
In that game anything could go wrong, players could get hurt etc, If it were me I would probably play dirty as shit to GUARANTEE my victory but hey im just talking shit.
Almost everyteam that reaches the Finals and or Championship has a good or great home record, but with that being said the same can be said for AWAY Victories as well, I still see Dallas winning the whole thing but if Miami wins this last one man you cant count em out, they WILL have the lead, they could play stupied with the 3-2 advantage once they get to Dallas, Rest a few players or what ever just to duke it out in the final game. Just dont count em out yet if they win out at home is all im saying.


Move to Dallas scrub.
Tell em to jump a cliff instead :rolleyes:

*Thinks of what would happen if Phoenix was playing Miami WITH Amare*
I think it would have been all HIGH scoring games in favor of Miami due to there ability to rebound, I also stated earlier in this thread that Rebounding would hurt Dallas if they DIDN'T Rebound and look at the series score now.

[GeoG2]

Move to Dallas scrub.

No. I hate Texas.

Tell em to jump a cliff instead :rolleyes:

Is there a reason you do what you do?

I mean, seriously... do you like getting shitted on, burying arguments, but still continueing to throw shots?

Are you that thirsty for attention?

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Stackhouse suspended for Game 5.

[Cool-Breeze]

No. I hate Texas.



Is there a reason you do what you do?

I mean, seriously... do you like getting shitted on, burying arguments, but still continueing to throw shots?

Are you that thirsty for attention?


Fuck are you talking about, you got location: MIAMI FLA
Then you were just on there nuts when they were facing Detroit, now you jumping ship which most people do I'll give you that but lets state the obvious.
The series is now fucking TIED ASSHOLE.
No one in this thread would NOT call it a series with the games tied man, like I said I have nothing against you but people speak about what they see and faults in people's post everyday, I didn't single you out but you didn't make since with the statement you made with the series tiead and they STILL have a home game to go.

If you read my previous post my point about the Home Court Records is true and is pevitale in this situation.

There's no way in hell you gonna tell me or anyone esle in this thread MIAMI doesn't have a shot at shocking the world IF THEY WIN THIS LAST HOME GAME.

Stackhouse suspended for Game 5.

Why was he suspended??

[Cool-Breeze]

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[GeoG2]

Fuck are you talking about, you got location: MIAMI FLA
Then you were just on there nuts when they were facing Detroit, now you jumping ship which most people do I'll give you that but lets state the obvious.
The series is now fucking TIED ASSHOLE.
No one in this thread would NOT call it a series with the games tied man, like I said I have nothing against you but people speak about what they see and faults in people's post everyday, I didn't single you out but you didn't make since with the statement you made with the series tiead and they STILL have a home game to go.

So if I live in Miami, I have to be a Heat fan?

I said from waaaaay back I don't care who won this series. And I never was on the Heat's nuts... I simply did not want Detroit to advance. Get it yet, Daffy?

How did what I say not make sense?

Did I not state they had to win in Dallas in order to close the series out? Have they done so yet? No? Ok then.

Who give s a fuck if they're 2-2? Dallas won 2 games, and could have taken the third. This isn't a series... this Dallas toying with them 3 out of the 4 games and having an off fourth game. If they can't win in Dallas, it doesn't mean shit.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Suspended for the hard foul he gave Shaq.

I didn't see it, but a lot of people are disagreeing with it.

[Lantis]

Oh wow, this reminds me of when Jason Terry was suspended by punching Michael Finley in the balls during the Spurs series. Guess the NBA only takes notice when the Spurs are doing shit.

And come on, it's not like Stackhouse decked Shaq right in the face. Goes to show how retarded the NBA really is.

[The D Man]

Stack basically did what James Posey did to Hinrich in the first round.

Posey got 1 game for it, so does Stack. Big deal.

[Hoonyo]

yeah just marc cuban bitching as always

seemed like it warranted a suspension from watching the replay

[Anubis]

Suspended for the hard foul he gave Shaq.

I didn't see it, but a lot of people are disagreeing with it.I saw that elbow he threw to the side of Shaq's head when Shaq tried to go for a lay-up. There is no way that was accidental.

I was surprised it didn't turn into another "Malice in The Palace" event.

[Dreaded Fist]

I saw that elbow he threw to the side of Shaq's head when Shaq tried to go for a lay-up. There is no way that was accidental.

I was surprised it didn't turn into another "Malice in The Palace" event.


yeah that shit was hard. Shaq fell down like a giant and destroyed some cameramen as he was getting up.

[PBalla]

imo neither posey or stack should've been suspended, just give them a flagrant and be done with it.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Well well well...Miami has shot 43 free throws to Dallas' 12. Kinda funny that the game is in OT isnt it.

[The Deadpool]

Where has Dirk been this entire Finals? I thought Dirk would be the one who would go off in the finals, but Wade has been winning the individual matchup with Dirk. I don't believe that Haslem/Posey is doing that much of a better defensive job than Bowen. If somehow the Mavs win, Dirk won't be the MVP, and that's shocking.

[Zulu]

yeah that shit was hard. Shaq fell down like a giant and destroyed some cameramen as he was getting up.

Wade saved Stackhouse's life by holding Shaq back.

That reminds me of when Shaq got fouled hard by Brad Miller a few years ago, swung such a punch and missed. Barely. If Shaq had hit Miller, he would've knocked his head clean off.

Thank God for Wade.

[Silentness!]

They will be beating that guy's ass for calling a time out. I know I would...

[flyboyz2000k]

Miami Wins!!!!

It was a great game. Josh howard made a big mistake to end the game.

[Biggzy]

Hahahahahah Fuck Dallas

WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Miami Owns Dallas, take a fuckin walk bunch of scrubs.

[Taito]

:rofl: :rofl: Howard you moron.

[Silentness!]

HAHAHA Dirk's K groove bar just filled up. (footage after the game ends)

[Stuckey]

Yeah. Fuck Dallas.

Miami isn't winning, Dallas is just losing. 2 giveaways in Miami.

[Hokuto no Jeffro]

Dwyane Wade for just too good, It's a fact. Avery Johnson is prolly throttling the life out of Howard in the locker room while Dirk cries in his leiderhosen.

And once again, STFU Mark Cuban.

[Biggzy]

Yeah. Fuck Dallas.

Miami isn't winning, Dallas is just losing. 2 giveaways in Miami.

Spoken like a true scrub. Take a walk.

[DA GAME]

MAN FUCK DALLAS!!!!1THESE MUTHA FUCKAS HAD A CHANCE TO GO UP 3-2 IN THE SEREIS & DIRK HAD TO FUCKIN FOUL WADE!!!!DAMN!!DAMN!!!DAMN!!!!THEY BETTER WIN GAME 6 & 7!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Stuckey]

Spoken like a true scrub. Take a walk.

I'm impartial. I'm speaking based on what I see. I'm not going to entertain your homey bullshit because my team is gone anyway. Dallas did throw away a huge 4th quarter lead in game 3 and Howard did just call a time out that ruined game 5. You're watching what i'm watching. So go to hell.

And I bought a brand new car last month...i'm not walking any fucking where.

[TrunksSS3]

FUCK MIAMI they fucking suck!!!!!

PS: someone tell dwyane Wade to stop doing the same pump fake jumpshot he does like 98% of the time thats why they anit call it the last time he does it everytime he shoots..and no 1 ever touch's him!!

Dallas in 7

[Hokuto Shingo]

Hahahahahah Fuck Dallas

WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Miami Owns Dallas, take a fuckin walk bunch of scrubs.

Wow...I don't know which is a worse offense. Touching D Wade or the theft they just put on.

Just for the record. Dallas shot 21-25 from the line. Wade shot 21-25 from the line. Any questions? Oh yeah I have one. Where in the hell is the foul on that last layup? It seems like whenever Wade gets in any kind of double team or something he gets a foul called. Why is that? Bigzy, you suck his dick enough why don't you ask when you come up for air tonight. See you in the D on Tuesday. And believe me we wont have to pull out all the stops to get a win there.

[Silentness!]

Miami deserves to win the Finals, if they can pull of a win in Dallas.

[power-dn]

Josh Howard for NBA Finals MVP !!!

[flyboyz2000k]

PS: someone tell dwyane Wade to stop doing the same pump fake jumpshot he does like 98% of the time thats why they anit call it the last time he does it everytime he shoots..and no 1 ever touch's him!!


If it aint broke dont fix it.

[TrunksSS3]

Wow...I don't know which is a worse offense. Touching D Wade or the theft they just put on.

Just for the record. Dallas shot 21-25 from the line. Wade shot 21-25 from the line. Any questions? Oh yeah I have one. Where in the hell is the foul on that last layup? It seems like whenever Wade gets in any kind of double team or something he gets a foul called. Why is that? Bigzy, you suck his dick enough why don't you ask when you come up for air tonight. See you in the D on Tuesday. And believe me we wont have to pull out all the stops to get a win there.


dont worry we got them in a blowout in game 6!!!

[Def1n1tely]

omg josh howard

wade got hella bailed out on that last play... i thought they're not supposed to bail out players on last second plays like these... star power ftw!

lmao at nowitzki kicking and knocking everything down he sees on his way to the locker

[Biggzy]

HAHAHAHAHAHA TOO GOOD.

Dirk chokes it up, then Josh Howard chokes it up.

D-Motherfuckin-Wade bitches!!!!!!!!

[Zigmover21]

If Dallas loses, Josh Howard will join the ranks of the great Choke Masters in NBA history.

Misses two big free throws, THEN calls a fucktarded timeout! Way to go Josh.

[Hokuto Shingo]

HAHAHAHAHAHA TOO GOOD.

I choke it up, then I swallow it up.

I'M D-Motherfuckin-Wade's bitch!!!!!!!!

fixed

Have you ever touched a basketball in your life?

[TrunksSS3]

D-Motherfuckin-Wade bitches!!!!!!!!



the cry baby:sad:

[Biggzy]

Hahahaha I Love It!

[Stuckey]

fixed

Have you ever touched a basketball in your life?

He jerks off to D.Wade's photo spread in People.

[The Deadpool]

I'm really surprised though that Dallas almost won this game even with a Dirk no-show. The reason Miami is winning is because Wade is outplaying Dirk. The freethrow difference isn't really shocking because Wade has always been the leaders in freethrow attempts. The fact is that Dallas just doesn't play inside enough to get those kinds of calls. Dirk needs to play like Wade. He needs to force the refs to make those calls. He can't keep playing on the perimeter. I like what I saw at the end of game from Dirk. Some agression. But it was still a "too little, to late" kind of deal. Throughout the whole game in critical moments I see Terry take those shots and been making it. But if you're 7ft and can take it in on anyone, you can't let these second tier players take those shots. Some of those fouls on Wade are absolutely ridiculous, but it's expected because he's Wade and they were playing at home. However, if Dirk did the same thing, you know that he would get those calls too. The last foul on Dirk was a phantom call, but you have to give props to Wade for forcing the issue against 4 Dallas Mavericks. It was ridiculous how he didn't pass the ball with like all of Dallas on top him. Dirk needs to do that more if they want to win.

[TrunksSS3]

fixed

Have you ever touched a basketball in your life?


i don't think he ever has

[Galactic]

Well well well...Miami has shot 43 free throws to Dallas' 12. Kinda funny that the game is in OT isnt it.

Funny that they played Hack a Shaq the entire 4th quarter AND OT?

Kinda funny that Stackhouse made a boneheaded play and got suspended?

Kinda funny how that idiot Josh Howard pulled a Chris Webber, robbing Dallas of a last shot opportunity?

Yeah, kinda funny. Must be a conspiracy!

^_-;

[DanSC]

dallas could of won the game, theyll win the next game at home...and i still think they will win the series.

[Ukyo Tachibana]

Man... I mean, I can understand choking to miss a game-winning (or game-tying) free throw...

But what are the odds of having a brain fart and calling a time out too soon?

Dallas had just beaten themselves twice now... which is a psychological bonus for Miami. If Dallas loses now, they'll be one of the biggest chokers in the history of sports.

[Biggzy]

D-Wade is just unstoppable.

[FragMasterGen]

I dont see why ur all blaming Josh Howard. Avery Johnson gave the signal for a time out after the 2nd free throw, then Josh Howard asked Avery and the second he got close to making the hand signal he got whistled for it. And its not even taht big of a deal. Chances are they would of lost anyway.

and LOL for Avery Johnson punking the shit out of that reporter after the game.
"dont stutter!" Times like taht make me wish I had a dvr. it was classic

[GeoG2]

Three things:

1) Dwyane Wade is the man.

2) Miami is still not closing out in Dallas.

3) Biggzy is an authentic ass-kissing fan. I hate authentic ass-kissing fans.

[Hoonyo]

wade foul at the end = tripped by harris and nowitzki had a hand on the back

i felt shitty for josh howard. he pisses me off because he's a scrappy player for a team i hate but i felt for the guy.

[Silentness!]

Josh Howard is going to get hit in the nuts again for his mistake. :rofl:

[TGC]

Well maybe Avery shouldn't be yelling for a time out so soon. It's a home game and wade just made a game tieing free throw and has another one coming up. The crowd is gonna be LOUD!!!!

If you throw your hand straight up and give the sign, then the player will see that and do it. He's can't hear the coach if he said "AFTER THE 2nd Free throw"

Sure it takes some common sense and all to do it, but J-ho probably didn't know they only had one left, and it seems like that's what Avery was arguing about...holding his hand out with 2 fingers up. That's what i'm assuming at least, i didn't see the post game so i dunno wtf he was really talking about.

[J-ride]

Okay my opinions on the game so far:

Mavericks are settling for a perimeter game, when they should be pushing the ball in and drawing the fouls like Dwane Wade. You have a team of pretty good free-throw shooters, and Miami has huge guys in the paint making it hard to rebound, then push into those guys, and get the foul. Miami is playing really physical D and that seems to me a whole lot better idea than dropping 3s all night and hoping someone gets hot. Nearly every time a Mav pushed toward the paint he got slapped/bumped several times, it just seems a pretty good idea to let them play that way and get the shots.

I am hoping for a 7 game series because this has been a pretty good finals.

Edit: I will say whatever they are paying Wade, he is worth every penny.

[Taito]

http://nelsok.com/images/91283053.gif

[GeoG2]

Avery Johnson's post-game comments on ESPN had me dying.

[Robust]

Worst 9 seconds in nba history.

This has to be the most anticlimactic finals overtime game EVER.

Good job to the refs making the best decisions, and handing the game to Miami.

[Outkast]

Concerning the FTA attempt differences, Wade was just going to the basket more. Dallas was playing a perimeter game and shooting jumpers. You don't go to the free throw line by shooting jumpers.

Dallas choked, end of story, no conspiracy. At least I think, hehe.

Bring on the next game :)

Go clippers....

[TGC]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/DWade1.jpg

[DanielLarusso]

We got a series yet Geo? ^_~

I thought Miami would struggle to win one game, and here they've won three. Can they win four? With Dwayne Wade it seems anything is possible. Not gonna be easy in Big D.

I love seeing Cuban fighting mad.

[Hokuto Shingo]

Concerning the FTA attempt differences, Wade was just going to the basket more. Dallas was playing a perimeter game and shooting jumpers. You don't go to the free throw line by shooting jumpers.

Dallas choked, end of story, no conspiracy. At least I think, hehe.

Bring on the next game :)

Go clippers....

Actually that wasn't the case for this game. Wade really wasn't going to the basket as much last night. We wont have to pull out all the stops in Dallas like they do in Miami. Stack will be back and we'll shoot a fair amount of free throws. This is just like in '94 when 'Knick' Bavetta let the Knicks run rampant in the 3 home games after being down 2-0. Once it got back to Houston all that shit got nerfed and both teams actually played on a level field.

[Cool-Breeze]

Miami deserves to win the Finals, if they can pull of a win in Dallas.

Um if they win a game in Dallas they win the series dude :rolleyes: :confused:

Worst 9 seconds in nba history.

This has to be the most anticlimactic finals overtime game EVER.

Good job to the refs making the best decisions, and handing the game to Miami.

This is so true and I think this was a well officiated game thru and thru.

Avery Johnson's post-game comments on ESPN had me dying.

So is it a series yet Geo?? I mean all Miami need is ONE WIN, Dallas has had 2 close games in Miami in which they have lost, Miami now has the confidence needed so that if this happens in Texas they have a strong chance of pulling it out.

Well maybe Avery shouldn't be yelling for a time out so soon. It's a home game and wade just made a game tieing free throw and has another one coming up. The crowd is gonna be LOUD!!!!

If you throw your hand straight up and give the sign, then the player will see that and do it. He's can't hear the coach if he said "AFTER THE 2nd Free throw"

Sure it takes some common sense and all to do it, but J-ho probably didn't know they only had one left, and it seems like that's what Avery was arguing about...holding his hand out with 2 fingers up. That's what i'm assuming at least, i didn't see the post game so i dunno wtf he was really talking about.

He could have called over one of the guards who sit or stand near the half court line and told them to call the time out after the last free throw, Avery fucked up.
Maybe people want to blame Josh for it but you cant over ride the coach, the coach was signaling for a time and he didn't put up 2 fingers til after Josh told the Ref time out twice so coach fucked up.
Not only that Avery is supposed to be the players style coach, everyone loves him, he can do no wrong, he SHOULD have taken this on his shoulders, look at the game Howard played for him and his team, your all star (Yea I said it he aint a superstar and this is why) aint stepping up in away games, This is why I still dont label him a Superstar yet (Dirk), then you gonna blast the kid for the mistake of calling a time out that YOU the coach were flagging him down and yelling at people to call???:looney:

[Hokuto Shingo]

D-Wade is just unstoppable.

No, he's un-touchable...in Miami. And its not just this series its been in all the series this year. That shit wont fly in Dallas. Trust Me

[Biggzy]

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/DWade1.jpg

It doesn't get any clearer than that.

[donaldducktm]

LOL at all those who said Miami wouldn't even get this far

[Silentness!]

Um if they win a game in Dallas they win the series dude :rolleyes: :confused:



No shit! I'm just saying they deserve the NBA ring if they win in Dallas.

[x_tremer]

wow, wade pulled it off, i hate him even more now.

FUCK THE HEAT, DALLAS ALL THE WAY.

[Anubis]

Wow! Whoever would have thought that Miami after being down two games would come back & be up by one.

But the real test is now in Dallas for the next two games!

[GeoG2]

We got a series yet Geo? ^_~

So is it a series yet Geo?? I mean all Miami need is ONE WIN, Dallas has had 2 close games in Miami in which they have lost, Miami now has the confidence needed so that if this happens in Texas they have a strong chance of pulling it out.

Miami is basically winless in Dallas between both the regular season and playoffs. I want to say its a series, but in my opinion... it won't be until they actually win in Dallas. In which case... it wouldn't even be considered a series anymore cause they'd have won it all.

I also want to say Miami has confidence and momentum going into Dallas, but honestly... they barely won two of the games at home. It's more Dwyane Wade than the whole team that has momentum.

So what I envision is Dallas, with Stackhouse back, basically torching them next game. And then game 7... well... that's in the air.

[Stuckey]

The 2-3-2 setup in the finals makes absolutely no sense to me. The series should run like every other series in the post season. It favors the shittier team with the worst record when you run it like this. 3 straight games full of crowd assistance and bonehead refs not doing their jobs because they're scared some fans are gonna fuck them up in th street.

I don't really care who wins the series because I was going for Phoenix (the trophy is THEIRS when Stat comes back. believe me.), just so long as it's fair. Shaq sent Stackhouse to the locker room to get stitches in his nose. He damn near knocked Dirk's teeth out in game 1. They got 2 free throws and shaq's ass to kiss. But when you try to take it to shaq, you get suspended. If that's really how flagrant fouls worked, Bill Laimbeer would've only got to play 4 or 5 games his whole career.

If Miami wins, that's fine with me. I'm a Wade fan, I even own his jersey. If Dallas wins, props to Dirk and Avery Johnson. I'm fans of theirs too. But regardless of who's side you're on you gotta admit Dallas has been getting SOMEWHAT of a raw deal in south beach.

[Hoonyo]

so if and when miami wins in dallas, it's a series. a one game series. brilliant.

[GeoG2]

so if and when miami wins in dallas, it's a series. a one game series. brilliant.

Essentially.

[TGC]

I don't see how most people here can call themselves basketball fans to be honest. If you were, you would not base ANYTHING, i mean ANYTHING on fucking previous Stats. They're just that, stats, doesn't mean they're always true.

So Dallas can just give the ball to J-ho to score 20 and it's an auto win? The stats said so until game 3.

Oh, the last 17 times a team went up 2-0 in the finals have won, so dallas is champion for sure right?

Oh Miami only beat detroit twice in the regular season. Oh Lakers have only beaten Suns once the last 8 meetings in the regular season, and it was because nash and bell weren't even playing.

My point is this: Stats get proven wrong, I've seen it happen so many times I cannot count it on my two hands anymore. There is a first time for everything, and we cannot say it will or won't happen this year until it actually does.

[Cool-Breeze]

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OKAYYYY I'M RELOADED!!!!!!!
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