The Official NBA 2005-06 Thread [Archive] - Page 2

Feyz

11-02-2005, 11:38 PM

LOL@ people who think the warriors will do good this year... remember the post I made about them in the other thread?

These motherfuckers alway just tease you... they always seem to play well at the end the season then everybody is like "Wow the warriors looked good finishing off the season, they gonna rock next year!" Get the fuck out... :tdown:

Last year the same thing was said and they started the season like shit... and continued sucking some more..

This year it no different... its like a never ending cycle..

They beat ATL today but your local YMCA amputee team can blow out the hawks.

AkumaTX

11-02-2005, 11:42 PM

Kobeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

jae hoon

11-02-2005, 11:42 PM

Ive said it for the last 3 years and all people do in here is laugh at me.

Kobe Bryant is still the best player in Basketball, motherfucking clutch.

donaldducktm

11-02-2005, 11:49 PM

Ive said it for the last 3 years and all people do in here is laugh at me.

Kobe Bryant is still the best player in Basketball, motherfucking clutch.
CO-FUCKING-SIGN

I CONCUR

WHAT HE SAID

READ MY MIND

TGC

11-02-2005, 11:49 PM

I dunno about the suns this year. Without amare, it's just not the same, especially with JJ and Q gone. Althought raja bell and kurt thomas are pretty damn good.

Me and my friends just aren't expecting this season to be that great. Unless amare can heal 100% first, but with a surgery like that, i'm sure they don't want that shit rushed during healing period. But if Suns can make the playoffs, with a decent seed, like at least 4th, then maybe they can still win.

I seriously doubt it with SA right now though, they're just too damn good now it seems.

FallingEdge

11-02-2005, 11:55 PM

GG between Denver and LA.

And let me call this right now. Smush Parker is gonna be a money player for LA.

In fact, here's my list...

Smush Parker
Qyntel Woods
Leonard Barbosa
Raja Bell
Matt Harpring
Keith Bogans
Gordon Giricek

Breakout year for all of them.

Night

11-03-2005, 12:06 AM

I'd love to see the Clippers end up with a better record than the Lakers hahahaha...

Baron Davis tweaked his hamstring... could've been worse. As long as the word "knee" or "ankle" isn't there, then it's not as bad, but hopefully this won't be too bad.

Hoonyo

11-03-2005, 12:11 AM

i'm impressed with lebron's 3pt range

donaldducktm

11-03-2005, 12:17 AM

after the aftermath of the laker game, i thought the lakers played poorly despite all their heart into the game. so many mistakes and turnovers...unacceptable....i think i saw like 10 lobs today....anyway, there is always room for improvement!

Bucks should have a decent year. so far they are handling themselves quite nicely.

when i saw some highlights of rockets vs ???, they are such a monster balanced team. Mcgrady, Yao and Swift just totally blows me away in an instant

Def1n1tely

11-03-2005, 01:49 AM

That tj ford is lookin pretty impressive

i like how Odom is playing point now. Just needs to improve a little more with his handles and he'd be perfect. I saw a couple of times where he fumbles the ball a little

I wanna see Kwame Brown be more of a presence also. But he jus't cant catch the ball. Dude has butterfingers, cuz he's always fumbling, dropping the ball.

Carpet Lint

11-03-2005, 02:44 AM

Ive said it for the last 3 years and all people do in here is laugh at me.

Kobe Bryant is still the best player in Basketball, motherfucking clutch.
Still :rofl::rofl::rofl:ing @ you

There exists X, such that X > Kobe, where X belongs to the set {Shaq Diesel, Big Fundamental, Big Ticket}

Best guard in the league, quite possible - although you could make a very good argument for T-Mac, AI, or hell maybe even New Jersey Vince now.

But you can never be the best player in the league if any of those three big men are still playing.

Laker fans vs. rest of board GOGOGOGOGO!!!

I wanna see Kwame Brown be more of a presence also. But he jus't cant catch the ball. Dude has butterfingers, cuz he's always fumbling, dropping the ball.
It's because he has such tiny hands. He'll never have the softest hands.

If this isn't Kwame's year then it'll never be.

Goddamn Bogut is beasting. 17 rebounds! Playing Bogut as a power forward...hmm...GENIUS.

KillerKai

11-03-2005, 03:40 AM

Kwame also needs to lose those ice skates he calls shoes. Did anyone see him slide around and lose the ball off of someone's (i forgot who) steal? That was a free power dunk for him and he's busy playing slip n slide. I'll give him some time though.

And Kobe for MVP if the Lakers can have a good season. I'd like to reiterate that today wasn't the first time he shot something in to the face of people from Colorado.

The Laker's search for a new point guard is also over. Smush will become an all star this year.

Odom doesn't look very comfortable with the triangle offense yet. He was tanking shots left and right. Like Kwame, I think he needs some more time.

I expect the lakers to get around the 5th seed this year under the Spurs, Rockets, Suns, and Mavericks in that order if they can stay solid.

spideyman

11-03-2005, 09:13 AM

what about sac-town? i like the squad they got this year. mike bibby is under rated.

NeREMIXED

11-03-2005, 09:21 AM

YellowS4

11-03-2005, 09:24 AM

nene out for the season?! and fuck the raps, cant even close out a game.

Hunter D

11-03-2005, 09:36 AM

Still :rofl::rofl::rofl:ing @ you

There exists X, such that X > Kobe, where X belongs to the set {Shaq Diesel, Big Fundamental, Big Ticket}

Best guard in the league, quite possible - although you could make a very good argument for T-Mac, AI, or hell maybe even New Jersey Vince now.

But you can never be the best player in the league if any of those three big men are still playing.

Laker fans vs. rest of board GOGOGOGOGO!!!

It's because he has such tiny hands. He'll never have the softest hands.

If this isn't Kwame's year then it'll never be.

Goddamn Bogut is beasting. 17 rebounds! Playing Bogut as a power forward...hmm...GENIUS.

AI is so damn overrated IMO. He's an undersized two that will never see a championship because he still hasn't learned to play with other people offense.

Edit: Odom is going to kill at pg. He has the court vision, handle and passing ability to do it. The guy is a monster, believe it.

Lakers got that NYC connect baby. Smoosh+Odom= lakers playoff bitches.

Edit2: The knicks will be in the playoffs. the knicks have a lot of depth and talent. Crawford will be an allstar this year. The knicks looked a a little lost last night. They had a shit load of TO, missed a shit load of ft's, and got outrebounded and still took Boston to overtime. Boston will have a mediocore season if they play the way they played last night.

PBalla

11-03-2005, 09:37 AM

vince carter + jason kidd ownage.

Cletus Kasady

11-03-2005, 10:07 AM

Some of you guys need to calm down about the Lakers and especially Smush fucking Parker. LA looked really good opening night last year until Utah raped them and their season went downhill from there; wait until they play 10 games before saying shit like "Smush Parker is an all-star". I mean, seriously, Lamar Odom was bringing up the damn ball. Shows worlds of confidence in Smush's ability to play point, doesn't it?

Hunter D

11-03-2005, 10:11 AM

merdoc

11-03-2005, 10:42 AM

as a laker fan...kobe is the next jordan.

Cool-Breeze

11-03-2005, 12:01 PM

AI is so damn overrated IMO. He's an undersized two that will never see a championship because he still hasn't learned to play with other people offense.

Edit: Odom is going to kill at pg. He has the court vision, handle and passing ability to do it. The guy is a monster, believe it.

Lakers got that NYC connect baby. Smoosh+Odom= lakers playoff bitches.

Edit2: The knicks will be in the playoffs. the knicks have a lot of depth and talent. Crawford will be an allstar this year. The knicks looked a a little lost last night. They had a shit load of TO, missed a shit load of ft's, and got outrebounded and still took Boston to overtime. Boston will have a mediocore season if they play the way they played last night.

Yet another silly response coming from me.

Everyone thinks because AI score big he is not being a team player and thats bull, he has risen in Assists every year, How can he NOT be a team player when he is and has always been the BEST DEFENDER the SIXERS have had since he joined the squad?

Next who has he had beside him that he made look worse or he didnt help get better?
Ahhh lets see....

Mutumbo:Ok this 7 foot foll was never a scorer hince ATL dropping him to get tons of YOUNG forwards and Centers, True he is a low post defender but philly always needed someone else to score and take pressure off of AI, ok whos next.

Keith Van Horn: The journey man slash great whit hope, hasnt been the same since his broken leg and he was give tne ball to much and couldnt hit the open jumper like Matt Harpring could thats why he was dropped.

Glenn Robinson: Showed how overrated he was and why he never utilized his size to the teams advantage, he was supposed to be mr low post fade way, or what ever, Hell Corliss Williamson played better at the small than BIG DOG.

Sooo since Iverson has been on this team who was the secondary option to release the pressure? I mean yes you work as a unit to help shorten the gaps you have but damn Iversons Team making the playoffs the past few years is hella solid because they dont have 2 dominant players like most playoff teams should or do, but lets see what happens this year with all the young talent like Igu, and Krover.
Oh please explain to me how he is so overrated when this young man dominates almost every defender who faces him? He is clutch, He plays D? I dont see it yo.

Zulu

11-03-2005, 12:14 PM

I like the Pacers new uniforms.

Hunter D

11-03-2005, 12:23 PM

Yet another silly response coming from me.

Everyone thinks because AI score big he is not being a team player and thats bull, he has risen in Assists every year, How can he NOT be a team player when he is and has always been the BEST DEFENDER the SIXERS have had since he joined the squad?

Next who has he had beside him that he made look worse or he didnt help get better?
Ahhh lets see....

Mutumbo:Ok this 7 foot foll was never a scorer hince ATL dropping him to get tons of YOUNG forwards and Centers, True he is a low post defender but philly always needed someone else to score and take pressure off of AI, ok whos next.

Keith Van Horn: The journey man slash great whit hope, hasnt been the same since his broken leg and he was give tne ball to much and couldnt hit the open jumper like Matt Harpring could thats why he was dropped.

Glenn Robinson: Showed how overrated he was and why he never utilized his size to the teams advantage, he was supposed to be mr low post fade way, or what ever, Hell Corliss Williamson played better at the small than BIG DOG.

Sooo since Iverson has been on this team who was the secondary option to release the pressure? I mean yes you work as a unit to help shorten the gaps you have but damn Iversons Team making the playoffs the past few years is hella solid because they dont have 2 dominant players like most playoff teams should or do, but lets see what happens this year with all the young talent like Igu, and Krover.
Oh please explain to me how he is so overrated when this young man dominates almost every defender who faces him? He is clutch, He plays D? I dont see it yo.

He only passes the ball when he can't get is own shot. If you have been watching philly play for the last year and a half you can see how bad they need a point. No one on the team seems to know what Iverson is going to do when he brings the ball down. They never look ready for his passes, never. Chris Webber isn't bitching for no reason and Larry Hughes didn't bitch for no reason either. AI is a ballhog, plain and simple. If Philly could trade AI they would.

Cool-Breeze

11-03-2005, 12:40 PM

He only passes the ball when he can't get is own shot. If you have been watching philly play for the last year and a half you can see how bad they need a point. No one on the team seems to know what Iverson is going to do when he brings the ball down. They never look ready for his passes, never. Chris Webber isn't bitching for no reason and Larry Hughes didn't bitch for no reason either. AI is a ballhog, plain and simple. If Philly could trade AI they would.

Larry hughes bitched because he wanted to play the 2 himself. Webber bitches period with or with out a point, and we all know Iverson is the 2 so why you beasting on him not passing when you just admitted they dont have an actual or productive point to handle the rock outside AI who was a point, even when they had eric snow he was a point the style of point they needed and the same thing happened wtf.

Its not his fault the organization wont get a point its been guys out there they just dont get em, ATL put up stromile when the johnson shit was going on, did philly make an offer? when Tyronne lue was in limbo leaving wizard land did they offer?
HE does what he has to do to win you still havent answered my question on who's hands can they depend on in the clutch besides his? They havent had a legitament Number #2 in philly for a while, you asking this man to make average NBA players look like Micheal Redd and so forth.

But I forgot you stuck in the Jordan era like most others.
Jordan did the same thing Averaging nearly 30 a game for how long while Scottie put up 16 who else averaged 20 or more for the bulls then??? No one cared long as jordan posted up 30 or more and Paxson, or Kerr, Or KuKoc scored the last second shot to carry them over, thats a double standered and bull shit and you know it.

When Scottie average 20 or more there was friction but no one speaks on this shit, the year philly was trying to make Mutombo a scorer why was everyone upset with Iverson for dishing him the ball instead of driving to the basket? Thats all you heard them complain about when in the lakers series, the only way to beat em was Iversons penetration sadly the man played team ball and only won one game in that series:xeye:

Hunter D

11-03-2005, 12:49 PM

Larry hughes bitched because he wanted to play the 2 himself. Webber bitches period with or with out a point, and we all know Iverson is the 2 so why you beasting on him not passing when you just admitted they dont have an actual or productive point to handle the rock outside AI who was a point, even when they had eric snow he was a point the style of point they needed and the same thing happened wtf.

Its not his fault the organization wont get a point its been guys out there they just dont get em, ATL put up stromile when the johnson shit was going on, did philly make an offer? when Tyronne lue was in limbo leaving wizard land did they offer?
HE does what he has to do to win you still havent answered my question on who's hands can they depend on in the clutch besides his? They havent had a legitament Number #2 in philly for a while, you asking this man to make average NBA players look like Micheal Redd and so forth.

But I forgot you stuck in the Jordan era like most others.
Jordan did the same thing Averaging nearly 30 a game for how long while Scottie put up 16 who else averaged 20 or more for the bulls then??? No one cared long as jordan posted up 30 or more and Paxson, or Kerr, Or KuKoc scored the last second shot to carry them over, thats a double standered and bull shit and you know it.

When Scottie average 20 or more there was friction but no one speaks on this shit, the year philly was trying to make Mutombo a scorer why was everyone upset with Iverson for dishing him the ball instead of driving to the basket? Thats all you heard them complain about when in the lakers series, the only way to beat em was Iversons penetration sadly the man played team ball and only won one game in that series:xeye:

Are you crazy. Don't ever compare AI to Jordan. MJ was a scorer who worked within the offense. Jordan was the ultimate teamplayer. Besides Jordan, Pippen, and Tony the bulls didn't have much talent. The team was made up of guys that were willing to play their roles. AI is a glorified gunner who needs 25 shots to score 20 points in a game and he doesn't play defense.

AI is a bitch. He got Craig Claxton traded because speedy would work him over in practice.

FallingEdge

11-03-2005, 12:58 PM

Cool-Breeze

11-03-2005, 01:11 PM

Are you crazy. Don't ever compare AI to Jordan. MJ was a scorer who worked within the offense. Jordan was the ultimate teamplayer. Besides Jordan, Pippen, and Tony the bulls didn't have much talent. The team was made up of guys that were willing to play their roles. AI is a glorified gunner who needs 25 shots to score 20 points in a game and he doesn't play defense.

AI is a bitch. He got Craig Claxton traded because speedy would work him over in practice.

Now you speaking that nonsense no one in this thread will agree with you and say AI DOESNT PLAY DEFENSE when he has been on All Defensive teams lead the league in steals etc for years to date

Jordan didnt work within the system HE WAS THE SYSTEM fuck you speakin the triangle would have never worked if it wasnt for clutch shooters like the guys i named up above no matter how dominant you are one on one that doesnt always win games, I watched AI put up fifty for his team when no one esle could make a layup Speedy Claxton had speed true but is HIGH on turnovers and is also a journymen look at him where is he now? I thought he was forever gonna be the back up in san antonio BLAH

Pippen was a better defender than Jordan How could he not have had talent, Now Toni true was overrated and looked good because of the triangle but pippen was always a 20 or more player no lie.
Pippen was clutch back then also with out him Jordan doesnt see half those rings, Pippen was hella dependable while Jordan was on or off the bench.
But the point is this, you cant put a few pieces on a team because of there name and expect it to work at all times (LAKERS Malone Payton Shaq Kobe) The Bulls built a team around jordan no one ever out shined him it was always Jordan and the Jordan-airs, So why not do the same for AI knowing his will to win, his scoring ability, you saying he should not put up 20 shots HOPEING that someone else on the team will help keep the games close and within reach but over the years it has been proven that cant be done with out him putting up those shots.

I saw jordan post up 23 and more shots hella mount of time in his career so dont complain about shot selection.

The D Man

11-03-2005, 01:49 PM

I've been a Smush fan since his college days in Fordham. SLAM even did a little article about him a few years back. So yeah, I'm a fan of his work :tup:

I remember that article. He was getting love from Slam. They were saying he should make it to the league. He was a beast at Fordham at the time. A really underrated cat coming out of College (outside of New York that is).

Hoonyo

11-03-2005, 02:55 PM

remember last season when people went crazy over chris mihm

spideyman

11-03-2005, 03:12 PM

vince carter + jason kidd ownage. or not. that's why the bucks owned them last night. nets=over rated. they play no d.

donaldducktm

11-03-2005, 05:17 PM

remember last season when people went crazy over chris mihm
they did??? i don't remember. i live in LA and i was getting bad raves about that guy...and his production proves it.

even this guy on radio, Power 106, said they would rather trade for Eddy Curry and take a chance on a guy with a bad heart than having a dumbass (makes wrong decisions).

The D Man

11-03-2005, 05:33 PM

they did??? i don't remember. i live in LA and i was getting bad raves about that guy...and his production proves it.

even this guy on radio, Power 106, said they would rather trade for Eddy Curry and take a chance on a guy with a bad heart than having a dumbass (makes wrong decisions).

HAHA.

Chris Mihm has been in the league for like 5-6 years I think. He was supposedly a great pick out of Texas. Being 7-1 and all. But he hasn't shown yet.

Now the real question is..... Chris Mihm or Desanga Diop. Who will show up first. In the preseason Diop logged a lot of minutes when Dampier was out. Supposedly a few flashes of greatness.

donaldducktm

11-03-2005, 05:56 PM

i'd rather stick with the Lakers #1 pick...Andrew Bynum...he's young but has potential,.

DanielLarusso

11-03-2005, 07:41 PM

jae hoon

11-03-2005, 07:46 PM

Damn Charles and Kenny just KILLED Mark Cuban on the half time show. Appearantly Cuban was upset with their postgame comments Tuesday after Dallas beat Phoenix in double OT and he posted a blog talking shit about Charles and Kenny.

Damn, I bet he won't do that shit no more. They got on tonight and aired his ass out. "PWNED"

Mark wont care that guy is richer then any of them could ever dream of being. He could just buy the damn set fire both of them and laugh his ass off if he wanted to.

Feyz

11-03-2005, 08:18 PM

You guy notice how Chuck got rid of that ugly banana tie at half time.. hahaha..

PopTardO

11-03-2005, 08:56 PM

Ron ARtest > shaq

jae hoon

11-03-2005, 09:05 PM

Ron ARtest > shaq

Donuts > Shaq

Nice to see that they let Miami mug Jermain O Neal on the imbound and dont call anything.

Zulu

11-03-2005, 09:13 PM

Where is Brian Grant and where is the All Star Game this year?

jae hoon

11-03-2005, 09:15 PM

Brian Grant is in Phoenix.

GuiltyNight

11-03-2005, 09:25 PM

I think the all star game is in houston this year.

The D Man

11-03-2005, 10:11 PM

Lamar Odom showing the versatility. "The Walking Triple Double"

Smush put it on somebody right before half. It's only two games but he looks to be an emerging talent.

Hoonyo

11-03-2005, 10:53 PM

fuck you ashura!

i was going to trade in j-will for smush :sad:

The D Man

11-03-2005, 11:26 PM

Slipping away for the Lakers. Looked like Phoenix was gonna blow another 4th quater lead.

ViciousSLASH

11-03-2005, 11:38 PM

Ron Artest is a fucking Ninja mother fucker.

He is the fucking man.

The D Man

11-03-2005, 11:45 PM

Joe Johnson was sitting near the front row at the Suns/Lakers game. Why? We may never know.

ashurax

11-03-2005, 11:58 PM

Ron Artest is a fucking Ninja mother fucker.

He is the fucking man.

that's bruce bowen status right there

fuck you ashura!

i was going to trade in j-will for smush :sad:

haha go me. :clap:

Feyz

11-04-2005, 12:04 AM

Joe Johnson was sitting near the front row at the Suns/Lakers game. Why? We may never know.

Atl is playing the Clippers tomorrow..

Ron is just a big bad bully out there.. he manhandles Power forwards for fun...

The D Man

11-04-2005, 12:13 AM

Atl is playing the Clippers tomorrow..

I know that. But he didn't HAVE to be there. Maybe he was just enjoying the game, who knows.

donaldducktm

11-04-2005, 12:09 PM

GeoG2

11-04-2005, 02:11 PM

I'm missing so much good shit because I don't have cable. Fuck...

Cool-Breeze

11-04-2005, 07:22 PM

does anybody in the fantasy league thinks the latest trade was fucked up? i think so.

Duncan, Mobley, Lenard in trade for Peja, Okur, and Pierce

i didn't really mind the Walker/brevin knight for Gasol trade

Well if tim Duncan was on your squad dont you think he would be a 2 Perosn trade almost no matter who they are?
Okur and Peja would be even, Pierce was a steal LoL the walker trade was even cause he is up and down, Pau has been with that eam for a while slumping on the average of 15 points a game, plus the man needed rebounding and thats what he got in this trade, since people are about the numbers alot when it comes to sports on SRK, He cleaned up but... then again it was even.

Or show me how im wrong i guess.

The D Man

11-04-2005, 07:32 PM

Damon Jones gonna be 6th man of the year. That's if he doesn't take the starting spot from Eric Snow (which he probably will).

Zulu

11-04-2005, 10:54 PM

So how about those Clippers?

merdoc

11-04-2005, 11:57 PM

Rip fucking Hamilton...Pacers/pistons eastern conference championships

PopTardO

11-05-2005, 02:11 AM

yes trade was a bit fuck up, paul and peja is just too much

donaldducktm

11-05-2005, 03:57 AM

Well if tim Duncan was on your squad dont you think he would be a 2 Perosn trade almost no matter who they are?
Okur and Peja would be even, Pierce was a steal LoL the walker trade was even cause he is up and down, Pau has been with that eam for a while slumping on the average of 15 points a game, plus the man needed rebounding and thats what he got in this trade, since people are about the numbers alot when it comes to sports on SRK, He cleaned up but... then again it was even.

Or show me how im wrong i guess.
i would really like to go into detail if you request it. otherwise, i'm not gonna either touch the subject anymore...

CLIPPERS ARE GONNA BE FUCKING DOPE THIS YEAR! (JINX JINX!)

The D Man

11-05-2005, 06:36 AM

Battier got his shit split open last night. Blood drenched and all.

But he still came back and shot the free throws and finished the game.

Miami was stupid for letting my boy Eddie go.

HaiDuongRiceMan

11-05-2005, 12:57 PM

Damn...I got a close match in the fantasy league...

And thank you Phoenix, for not fucking up another big lead.

ArcadeFire

11-05-2005, 01:14 PM

Anybody see Cleveland get owned by San Antonio?

spideyman

11-05-2005, 09:27 PM

go bucks. big win tonight. even though shaq didn't play. who cares a wins a win. 3-0 baby.

The D Man

11-05-2005, 10:06 PM

Damn no games on tonight. Need something to see after CFB.

Miami's 1-2 now. Even though there without Shaq, I think they'll be okay.

Like last wek I was gonna come on here and say they're gonna become the second team to a 70 win season ever and break the Bulls record by going 74-8. Crazy I know.

Night

11-05-2005, 10:15 PM

i would really like to go into detail if you request it. otherwise, i'm not gonna either touch the subject anymore...

CLIPPERS ARE GONNA BE FUCKING DOPE THIS YEAR! (JINX JINX!)

"Intentional jinxes" or "reverse jinxes" don't work. If it does happen that the Clippers end up doing bad, it won't be because of a jinx.

Jinxes ONLY work against you. In 2004, when Randy Johnson pitched the perfect game against Atlanta, there were probably Atlanta fans all over, and even the Atlanta announcers that said on the broadcast "15 up 15 down, Randy Johnson has been perfect..." but no matter how much an opposing person tries to jinx a guy, it won't work. Randy Johnson was able to complete the perfect game because Arizona fans all kept their traps shut. If he botched it up, it would've either been a bad pitch on his part, which wouldn't have been because of Atlanta fans, but if an Arizona fan made any mention of a no-hitter, THEN Randy Johnson would've gave up a hit or hit the batter maybe on the next pitch.

On that same very night when Randy Johnson pitched the perfect game, Jason Schmidt of the San Francisco Giants was pitching a no-hitter late in the game against the Cubs. It was a 2-strike count against catcher Michael Barrett, and on the local station in San Francisco, KNBR, Tom Tolbert was doing his radio talk show, watching the game and mentioned "Hey, Schmidt's got a no-hitter going..." then Schmidt threw Barrett a curve ball, the first curve ball he showed, and it hit the lower corner of the strike zone, and pretty much everyone knew it was a called strike three, but home plate umpire Tim McClelland didn't give him the call since it was just the first time he saw the pitch as Schmidt was mowing down the Cubs purely on fastballs and changeups. So after that, the next pitch Schmidt dealt was a dribbler that ended up being an infield-single. Schmidt did end up winning the game 1-0, on a one-hitter having thrown 144 pitches, but the mention of Tolbert and the no-hitter jinxed Schmidt. So he was like "Uh oh" and he tried to say "Hey, Randy Johnson's got a perfect game going!" but Johnson would not be jinxed, but he could've been if Tolbert was an Arizona Diamondbacks fan (although Tolbert did go to U of A, but isn't a fan of the D-backs).

Mario Lemieux!

11-05-2005, 10:18 PM

I missed your play so much Alvin Williams... =(

Those who saw tonight's Raptor's game knows what I'm talking about.

BshidoHEAT

11-05-2005, 11:21 PM

Magic start out 0-3 :( sad times... sad sad times....

PopTardO

11-06-2005, 02:03 AM

matt bonner needs to die....

Def1n1tely

11-06-2005, 04:13 AM

Bucks and Clips start out at 3-0

there you have it folks.. east and west finals right there..

Hoonyo

11-06-2005, 05:12 AM

your girl is hot..

ViciousSLASH

11-06-2005, 11:23 AM

Bucks and Clips start out at 3-0

there you have it folks.. east and west finals right there..

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOgut !

BLAKEY EH !

Spurs aren't going 82 - 0 sadly, sigh, I guess 75 - 7 will have to do.

Plus the Sixers lost to Charlotte and the Bucks, and then beat Indiana ? I hate the Sixers.

GeoG2

11-07-2005, 08:15 PM

Wade just swatted Carter's attempt at a game winner. Good show. :D

Feyz

11-07-2005, 10:13 PM

LOL... how many times did Vince dunk on ZO today? RJ also got a piece of that ass...

too bad they losted, (I thought carter got fouled on the last play though)

Good game..

Cool-Breeze

11-08-2005, 03:01 PM

He did get fouled.

He got hacked and hacked badly but, Refs usually refrain from calling a foul like that knowing the game is on the line less than Blah Blah seconds to go, Its so contrevertial they just say fuck it.

I hate sports sometimes because out of all the rules for and against players, REFS are the most protected, you get fined for sending Memos speaking on specific refs, you get fined for talking about the on or off air, You get fined if you touch in almost anyway, You get thrown out the game for to much talking, It like these fuckers have the shield Jordan had when he played ahhhh, this shit is freegin retarded.

Nuggets get no love from me for the rest of the season, Carmelo promises to be an all star this year, but his team gets spanked by the LAkers who have crap to compete with, Nuggets a playoff team Lakers not:confused:

Cletus Kasady

11-08-2005, 04:24 PM

LOL... how many times did Vince dunk on ZO today? RJ also got a piece of that ass...

I bet 'Zo wasn't flexing and jumping up and down after that. :lol:

Mario Lemieux!

11-08-2005, 09:33 PM

Vince also didn't got the call because he has yet to redeem the "Half-Man, Half-A Season" moniker Sir Charles gave him.

No hate on Vince though...I really wish he didn't leave T.O. =(

GO GO CRAPTORS!!!

Oh yeah....Calderon's nickname is the Conquistador!! GENIUS!! I hope Swirsky pulls the Monty Python next game =D

donaldducktm

11-08-2005, 10:02 PM

oh man i saw Vince Carter's dunk on Zo. he took a hit and dunked it with his arms spread open and WHAM.

hahaha Half Man Half a Season =D

oh and Kobe for MVP. i'm calling it

DanielLarusso

11-08-2005, 10:59 PM

hahaha Half Man Half a Season =D

One of Chuck's best disses.

It's too early for MVP talk, but if we're discussing MVP through the first four games, it's hard to deny Kobe.

Night

11-09-2005, 03:32 AM

GS gives the Bucks their first loss, woo hoo!

Cool-Breeze

11-10-2005, 06:05 PM

Team chemistry is ugly for Miami and I dont feel bad about it either.
Why bulid this squad just to get maybe one title, this team was more than ok with out Jason Williams, Antoine Walker, etc but its all good yo.

Pacers should sneek past Pistons and it would look ugly if they went up against The Heat one game away from the Finals.

San Antonio is a lock in the west, Denver sucks, Looks like the Lakers will make the playoffs after all:lame:

Hoonyo

11-10-2005, 06:22 PM

yao's grew a beard kinda thing

how long has he had that

Carpet Lint

11-10-2005, 07:16 PM

yao's grew a beard kinda thing

how long has he had that
Judging from normal Chinese facial hair growth rates...he's probably been growing that for like twenty years.

Remember when he said he wasn't going to shave if his Olympic team didn't get to the quarter finals? That was awesome.

Actually I see that T-Mac's got a beard thing going too. Is this some weird team morale thing, like when how the Red Sox were all growing beards for no reason during the season, or how some hockey teams start growing mullets during play-off runs? (Or are they always growing mullets regardless?)

Maybe JVG will do it too so that by the time the Heat play them again, he'll look like SVG.

AkumaTX

11-10-2005, 07:36 PM

NBA wants the heat to win. I want the lakers, rockets, mavs or celtics to take it all.

ramza

11-10-2005, 08:36 PM

Sixers are looking VERY shaky this year so far. Who the hell is the pg on that team?

donaldducktm

11-10-2005, 08:36 PM

San Antonio is a lock in the west, Denver sucks, Looks like the Lakers will make the playoffs after all:lame:
i smell a laker hater :tdown:

Miami should get it done. it's all in the hands of Wade now... i still think Walker is a little bitch and sucks. Jason Williams is dope and so is Payton (laker leaver). so this team should work well if Zo gets into the mix and Haslem getting it done.

jae hoon

11-10-2005, 08:44 PM

Hoonyo

11-11-2005, 02:14 AM

I shouldn't have waited until tonight to drop J-Will for Leandro Barbosa. I had ALL week to do it ><

ViciousSLASH

11-11-2005, 04:51 AM

I hear Doug Collins say that Zo took Yao out of the game in the fourth quarter but I agree with Reggie. Zo didnt take Yao out of the game, Houston took Yao out of the game. When he is dominating like he was you dont start jacking up wild shots like Houston was doing, give the big man the damn ball.

Yeah Rafer Aston is a clueless mother fucker, don't throw up j's for no good reason you stupid fuck face.

I would've given Yao the ball everytime he got into position under the basket. He was owning Zo's soul. If Yao can play like that all the time, watch out.

Go Detroit, 4-0, they'll run you into the ground and hold you to 75, Spurs vs Pistons in the finals. Spurs in 6.

PopTardO

11-11-2005, 08:18 AM

see thats what toronto was going through last yr...fuckin alston have no clue when to pass the ball

jae hoon

11-11-2005, 09:31 AM

Funny because he did when he was in Miami, Alston was a beast in Miami. To be honest to everyone that played for Toronto not named Bosh pretty much threw it in when they got there.

It was more of Derek Anderson to me, that guy was just throwing wild shit up, every time he touched it I wanted to scream dont shoot the ball. Alas he did though and usually missed.

In a weird way this is a good sign for Houston though if Yao can be consistent enough to do this on a nightly basis when T Mac gets back, there will be hell to pay. Zo isnt exactly a bitch either, he is still one of the better centers in the league.

Cool-Breeze

11-11-2005, 02:47 PM

i smell a laker hater :tdown:

Miami should get it done. it's all in the hands of Wade now... i still think Walker is a little bitch and sucks. Jason Williams is dope and so is Payton (laker leaver). so this team should work well if Zo gets into the mix and Haslem getting it done.

Why would I like the LAkers when I still have Detroit? Did you watch the minor come back they put on last night, Lakers couldnt do that naw couldnt :tdown: :lame:

Anyways whats good about them besides the "Dynasty Killer" Kobe Bryant, Yeah Lamar is a 16 point maybe 5 or more assists as well as rebounds player but, far as I see Phil barelly plays them together which can hurt them later in there run for the Playoffs

donaldducktm

11-11-2005, 03:18 PM

Why would I like the LAkers when I still have Detroit? Did you watch the minor come back they put on last night, Lakers couldnt do that naw couldnt :tdown: :lame:

Anyways whats good about them besides the "Dynasty Killer" Kobe Bryant, Yeah Lamar is a 16 point maybe 5 or more assists as well as rebounds player but, far as I see Phil barelly plays them together which can hurt them later in there run for the Playoffs
too early in the season to say Lakers can't do comebacks, but the pistons are quite impressive so far. i'm positive that Kobe and the Lakers are gonna get far this season, but not pass the Spurs or Rockets (if Tracy is healthy). but i'll sink in the Laker hate until LA starts beasting and then i'll rub it in your face. :karate:

and u can't blame kobe for breaking up the dynasty (did Detroit had a Dynasty? naw they couldn't :tdown: ) Phil is gonna put it together. he's the Zen Master for fucks sake

spideyman

11-12-2005, 09:28 PM

anybody see the bucks game? awesome. bucks win by 1. mo williams with a 3 to win it at the buzzer.

GeoG2

11-13-2005, 03:04 PM

Detroit is getting lucky playing a lot of weak teams right now on this streak. I'd be surprised if Flip doesn't make Billups and/or Hamilton allstars finally.

Timberwolves are retards for letting him go.

kindaichi

11-13-2005, 03:11 PM

Saying Detroit is lucky it's like saying Kobe has no skills

seriously, stop hating

Carpet Lint

11-13-2005, 03:57 PM

Because it's not like a team can be both good and lucky at the same time, right?

How the hell is he hating for praising the coach?

Seriously, stop whining.

___________

GO RAPTORS!!!

First time I've actually watched the miss-the-final-freethrow move work. All for nothing. That loss felt like a punch in the gut.

Rudy Gay here we come!

I can see the headlines next year - "TORONTO GETS GAY"

kindaichi

11-13-2005, 04:01 PM

Because instead of saying a team's lucky, how about for once recognizing how well the team is playing

seriously, stop whining

Carpet Lint

11-13-2005, 04:18 PM

No one's saying that Detroit hasn't played well. That's a pretty redundant statement if you ask me.

How is the statement that "Detroit is getting lucky playing a lot of weak teams right now" not true?

Philly
Boston
Toronto
Sacramento
Phoenix
Portland

That's probably the easiest first six games anyone's had to play so far. Just one legitimate team - Phoenix - which is looking lost without Amare/JJ and with KT slumping.

Detroit's opponents are currently 12-22.

How's that versus...say Toronto's at 22-13?

So everyone that doesn't immediately acknowledge Detroit's amazing play against crappy teams means they're haters?

ALERT - FOR ALL THOSE IN THE SRK NBA THREAD - NO MENTION OF THE DETROIT PISTONS IS ALLOWED WITHOUT FIRST ACKNOWLEDGING HOW THIS IS THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME AND EVEN A TEAM OF TWELVE JORDANS COULDN'T BEAT THEM.

God, just shut the fuck up.

__________

Apparently Isiah's already shopping around Jerome James.

Possibly the worst contract given out in the last five years...? Though Foyle's was pretty bad too.

GeoG2

11-13-2005, 04:46 PM

Saying Detroit is lucky it's like saying Kobe has no skills

seriously, stop hating

No, they're lucky. They're fortunate to being playing low tier teams. Its sort of like what NJ did when Byron Scott got fired and they went on a long winning streak with Frank.

Seriously, they won off of a Rip clutch shot the other night. That's the epitome of luck. Of course they're a good team, but they haven't been playing teams close to them.

HaiDuongRiceMan

11-13-2005, 07:12 PM

Yep...damn lucky Phoenix screwed up yet ANOTHER lead against them.

ViciousSLASH

11-13-2005, 07:49 PM

No, they're lucky. They're fortunate to being playing low tier teams. Its sort of like what NJ did when Byron Scott got fired and they went on a long winning streak with Frank.

Seriously, they won off of a Rip clutch shot the other night. That's the epitome of luck. Of course they're a good team, but they haven't been playing teams close to them.

Last time they did, they lost a ring. OHHH BURRN ! GO SPURS.

And in the clippers face, go sixers ! ( god the sixers suck )

I'm going to see the Cavs play the Sixers on Saturday with my friend. I'll be sitting behind one of the baskets in the first row off the floor. I guess I will have to wear something so you guys can spot me. I'm excited to see Lebron play, Iggy and Hughes too.

spideyman

11-15-2005, 01:09 PM

wow the camby man is whooping ass out in denver. i got him on my fantasy team and he is killing. let's just hope he doesn't get hurt soon. go bucks. is anybody else feeling the bucks this year?

BshidoHEAT

11-15-2005, 10:17 PM

Dwight Howard is starting to own his 2nd 20+(pts) 10+(reb)... people aught to start double teaming him soon.

And no love from ESPN, as this is the 2nd time we've had absolutely no recap of our victory. :tdown:

Carpet Lint

11-20-2005, 01:51 PM

RAPTOOOOOOOOOORS!!!

Sorry, Dwyane Wade - Possible Next Jordan #7 - you ain't no Jordan yet. I thought you were for three minutes in the fourth, when you almost killed us in cold blood, but then you just got selfish.

Why not pass to Alonzo to exploit our GAPING hole in the middle? Why take that stupid early shot clock three, when you have a career .286 3P% and you were 1-14 this year?

Must have been tough to watch for you Miami fans. Now to experience how a Raptor fan feels, imagine this game...but multiplied by 82.

Actually just by 81 now.

WOOHOO 1-9 BABY!!!

Now the pressure's on you, Hawks!

PC2000

11-20-2005, 01:55 PM

RAPTORS! The raptors on Sunday is just a different team. Especially when it comes to come backs on good teams :clap:

GeoG2

11-20-2005, 01:56 PM

Pistons got that ass beat. So sad...

WB!

11-20-2005, 02:19 PM

Part of me is just figuring I just dreamed that Raptors win. Oh well, at least the nightmare of being the team to fued with Atlanta for worst team in the league is still around.

Bosh is setting himself up for a damn good season on a weak team though, which hopefully won't get overlooked come all star time.

Big Picture

11-23-2005, 10:48 AM

What is everyone's AIM screename, let's get some trades going in this league. It seems like it's dead. SN = BigPictureSRK

donaldducktm

11-23-2005, 12:42 PM

What is everyone's AIM screename, let's get some trades going in this league. It seems like it's dead. SN = BigPictureSRK
i'm willing to trade almost anyone on my team. hit me u with some trades.

Hoonyo

11-23-2005, 12:43 PM

which league are you guys talking about

donaldducktm

11-23-2005, 12:49 PM

the bunked/rigged up SRk one. i'm just playing just because i'm gonna prove that with half my team are busts, i can still whoop some ass.

HaiDuongRiceMan

11-23-2005, 01:29 PM

Thank God Camby isn't a bust for me yet.

I'm sure he'll cough over the Thanksgiving holiday and somehow tear his ACL and dislocate his shoulder and sprain his knee somehow, so I'm glad I'm getting the value out of Camby now.

Geez, did you guys see the stats for his last game? 6 blocks?!? And he's had a couple of 20/20 games hasn't he?

Carpet Lint

11-23-2005, 02:05 PM

Personally, I think Marcus Camby has been the league's MVP so far this season.

17 points, 57%, 14.3 boards, 3.6 blocks, 1.6 steals, #1 in the league in efficiency rating.

He is a fucking monster. Still, it's only a matter of time before a slight breeze knocks out his knees and he misses 20 games.

Speaking of which, Vince is down already. Only 10 games in, too. My mouth is agape with shock and surprise.

ashurax

11-27-2005, 07:21 PM

it's official. artest is insane.

just look at the back of his head.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo;_ylt=An68J4VmrmhofsMJjJ9uZ5e8vLYF?slug=las10 811280015.pacers_clippers_las108&prov=ap

jae hoon

11-27-2005, 07:23 PM

There is no next Jordan thats what people got to realize. Thats not saying there wont be anyone better then Jordan, that is saying there is only one Jordan. Lebron might end up better then Jordan but if he does its because he was the next Lebron not the next Jordan.

PBalla

11-28-2005, 05:32 PM

SRK PART 2
Rank Team W-L-T WPct
1* Trojans 33-19-0 .635
2* The Paint Police 31-21-0 .596
3* TOO EASY Crew 26-23-3 .529
4* Mr.Noodle 27-24-1 .529
5* Harry Paratestis 21-31-0 .404
6* redic to the max 15-35-2 .308

Morphiend

11-28-2005, 06:38 PM

it's official. artest is insane.

just look at the back of his head.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/photo;_ylt=An68J4VmrmhofsMJjJ9uZ5e8vLYF?slug=las10 811280015.pacers_clippers_las108&prov=ap

oh my, it's anthony mason's bastard step brother.

donaldducktm

11-28-2005, 06:59 PM

Speaking of which, Vince is down already. Only 10 games in, too. My mouth is agape with shock and surprise.
was it vince's struggle or was Kobe's defense like hell for him? hehe Kobe = truth

Morphiend

11-28-2005, 07:27 PM

my god zo is beasting. NINE blocks at the end of the third :clap:

PBalla

11-29-2005, 09:21 AM

my god zo is beasting. NINE blocks at the end of the third :clap:
9 blocks in like 23 minutes i believe, but he wont get blocking honors from AK-47..

Morphiend

11-30-2005, 10:02 AM

someone please tell me yahoo isn't letting them login to fantasy basketball. I'm able to log into football but I'm locked out of all my bball leagues :(

Hoonyo

11-30-2005, 10:05 AM

yeah forsome reason it says the season is over O_o

donaldducktm

11-30-2005, 12:18 PM

yeah forsome reason it says the season is over O_o
it's just server maintenance. i'm pretty sure the season isn't over.

HaiDuongRiceMan

11-30-2005, 08:42 PM

Wow, Lebron was on the bench during this whole server mishap...Great.

DanielLarusso

11-30-2005, 09:19 PM

PopTardO

11-30-2005, 09:29 PM

raptors........sigh

Carpet Lint

11-30-2005, 10:04 PM

raptors........sigh
RUDY GAY HERE WE COME!!!

Atlanta on Friday!

Night

11-30-2005, 11:04 PM

*clap clap clap* For now, the guard has changed in northern California and the WARRIORS are the better team, taking down the Queens w00t.

Hunter D

12-03-2005, 08:14 AM

I know you people saw Trever Areza dunk on Ben Wallace. IF anyone has the gif hook it up please.

Morphiend

12-03-2005, 10:34 AM

everyone post up their all star votes.

ps. that dunk on wallace was gold.

Morphiend

12-03-2005, 11:04 AM

East
LeBron James Forward
Paul Pierce Boston Celtics , Forward
Allen Iverson Philadelphia 76ers , Guard
Dwyane Wade Miami Heat , Guard
center- i voted for ben but i think im going to change my mind to zo as a grant hill vote.

west
Elton Brand Los Angeles Clippers , Forward
Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs , Forward
Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers , Guard
Steve Nash Phoenix Suns , Guard
Brad Miller Sacramento Kings , Center

my mvps so far are ai, duncan, and brand. for importance to a team i'd have to give it to ai but for pure stats alone i'd probably go with duncan.

Carpet Lint

12-03-2005, 11:33 AM

PBalla

12-03-2005, 11:40 AM

Bosh
Lebron
AI
Wade
Wallace

Duncan
Brand
Kobe
Nash
Camby

Write in: Charlie Villaneuva!!!

Sweet sassy molassy! Marcus Camby's line versus the Suns last night:

33 points on 63%, 20 rebounds, 3 steals, 3 blocks, 2 assists.

BEAST!!!
yeah hes fucking crazy

look at this : http://www.nba.com/features/gq_nash_051202.html

Garnett
Brand
Camby
Kobe
Parker

Wade
Iverson
Pierce
James
Zo

NeREMIXED

12-03-2005, 12:16 PM

Black Deniro

12-03-2005, 01:41 PM

All that I have to say is, THE RAPTORS WIN, THE RAPTORS WIN. :party:

donaldducktm

12-03-2005, 01:43 PM

so i went to the Laker game yesterday.

It was fun. Even got to see Jack Nicholson.

They were playing soooo damn well. Kobe only taking 16 shots, and most everybody w/ the exception of Mihm took the same amount. Which means even, balanced scoring, which is what the Lakers needed.

But at the 4th quarter they stopped hustling on defense. They went from a 15 point lead to losing by 5 only by a few lucky last second shots which came too late.

gay gay gay gay gay.

Buuuuut...the offense was great. Just stopped hustling in the 4th.

Oooh and I got to witness 1st hand why everyone in the Staples Center leaves early when Lakers are getting beat. I also got to witness another reason why everyone leaves early, hella traffic.lol chris. WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE ME FOO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i saw the whole complete game. their offense were clicking so well...nothing i've seen in a long time. they finally had odom working in the offense (i think he's very underused by the team). odom should be the definite #2 guy on the team in which i think will be the biggest factor when kobe is out. nobody else can play (except Walton and Cook).

Defense is probably the toughest task in a basketball game. it's hard to go to transition defense and boxing out defenders. yeah the lakers slacked off a bit. one play i saw someone stole the lakers ball and odom blocked it, but nobody was there to pick up the rebound...i only saw timberwolves. but i think the lakers are progressing okay....they still need a lot of work

NeREMIXED

12-03-2005, 02:41 PM

lol chris. WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE ME FOO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i saw the whole complete game. their offense were clicking so well...nothing i've seen in a long time. they finally had odom working in the offense (i think he's very underused by the team). odom should be the definite #2 guy on the team in which i think will be the biggest factor when kobe is out. nobody else can play (except Walton and Cook).

Defense is probably the toughest task in a basketball game. it's hard to go to transition defense and boxing out defenders. yeah the lakers slacked off a bit. one play i saw someone stole the lakers ball and odom blocked it, but nobody was there to pick up the rebound...i only saw timberwolves. but i think the lakers are progressing okay....they still need a lot of work

hahaha next time dawg.

i also think its cause of their overtime game against utah the night before. they seemed just have lost energy in the 4th.

dont' forget about smush parker. that foo is good too. that steal from walton, then alley oop to bush...nice!

when you get back to San Diego lets see if we can plan a laker game or something.

but right now....UCLA vs USC baby!!!!

Hoonyo

12-03-2005, 03:40 PM

yeah hes fucking crazy

look at this : http://www.nba.com/features/gq_nash_051202.html
lol i've been saying for like 5 years one of my friends looks just like steve nash... those pics look exactly like him

Warriors ftw btw

PBalla

12-03-2005, 05:53 PM

first Wade, now nash

donaldducktm

12-04-2005, 10:06 PM

Lakers win a thrilling one tonight. Kobe sucks...=(

The Invincible Swordsman

12-04-2005, 10:20 PM

East Starters
A.I
Flash
Lebron
The Long Arms of Royalty
Big Ben

West Starters

Kakashi
Naruto
Camby
Kobe
Dirk

This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

Chauncey "P.Diddy" Billups and Rip better make it to the All-Star Game this year, or I'll be pissed.

donaldducktm

12-04-2005, 10:47 PM

Power Man Fox

12-07-2005, 07:36 PM

A little off topic here but, does anyone know how many championship rings
Steve Kerr has?

The D Man

12-07-2005, 07:54 PM

I think he's got 4 or 5

Power Man Fox

12-07-2005, 08:15 PM

Hey thanks!
I know he won 3 with the bull's but, I can't remember if he won 1 or 2 with the spurs.

Carpet Lint

12-07-2005, 09:03 PM

04-05 - Spurs (Horry)
03-04 - Pistons
02-03 - Spurs (Kerr)
01-02 - Lakers (Horry)
00-01 - Lakers (Horry)
99-00 - Lakers (Horry)
98-99 - Spurs (Kerr)
97-98 - Bulls (Kerr)
96-97 - Bulls (Kerr)
95-96 - Bulls (Kerr)
94-95 - Rockets (Horry)
93-94 - Rockets (Horry)

Cletus Kasady

12-07-2005, 09:42 PM

East: Gilbert Arenas, Richard Hamilton, Lebron James, Jermaine O'Neal, Ben Wallace
West: Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, Marcus Camby

Write-In: Chris Paul.

BshidoHEAT

12-07-2005, 09:45 PM

Man... I'm starting to despise the Magic... no Capt. Kirk.. no Chandler for the 2nd half...

What happens?
What happens every night someone plays the Magic!

Someone goes for a career high!
And a loss!

donaldducktm

12-07-2005, 10:12 PM

East: Gilbert Arenas, Richard Hamilton, Lebron James, Jermaine O'Neal, Ben Wallace
West: Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, Marcus Camby

Write-In: Chris Paul.
arenas deserves some recognition and paul deserves to be in the spot no doubt.

Hoonyo

12-07-2005, 10:15 PM

BD and J-Rich

Morphiend

12-07-2005, 10:27 PM

how could you put chris paul (or any eastern pg) over ai??

Cletus Kasady

12-07-2005, 11:32 PM

As far as I know, write-in's are guys that aren't on the regular ballot (like Chris Paul). Some of my votes are somewhat fringe votes as well (but semi-reasonable ones...Arenas isn't really that far down from AI, plus his team is better; I also like the fact that he and Hamilton have had relative breakout seasons).

Which brings up an interesting topic that I don't really recall seeing brought up last year; player rankings (Imagine a scenario where the league had an "expansion draft" where all teams start from scratch, there are no salaries and only short-run potential is taken into consideration, ie. the next 2-3 years). I may as well get the ball rolling, and put myself on the spot right away; top 10 in and of itself is probably enough for now...

1) Tim Duncan
2) Kevin Garnett
3) Shaquille O'Neal
4) Lebron James
5) Allen Iverson
6) Dirk Nowitzki
7) Amare Stoudemire
T-8) Kobe Bryant
T-8) Dwyane Wade
10) Steve Nash

illusive

12-08-2005, 01:11 AM

There are a ton of players currently having their best seasons of their careers.

Notably Paul Pierce (who should replace Rip Hamilton) and Allen Iverson (who should replace Gilbert Arenas).

Def1n1tely

12-08-2005, 01:42 AM

alright so do they even call travelling on ginobli anymore

Mario Lemieux!

12-08-2005, 04:30 PM

Steve Nash is way too good....I bet he can make a pylon average a triple-double and a can of Campbell's Chunky Soup average a double-double.

Sadly, a piece of lint would only average 12.1 points with the Steve Nash bonus...

UNION CAIN

12-08-2005, 04:40 PM

Deeeeeetroiiittt Basketballllllll !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Save It, Yall Already Know Tha Pistonz Gone Win Tha Championship Agein.

Why Botha.

Zulu

12-08-2005, 04:48 PM

^ Ew.

Anywho, those gold King's uniforms are the ugliest things.

JackTenrac!

12-08-2005, 04:55 PM

All that I have to say is, THE RAPTORS WIN, THE RAPTORS WIN. :party:

Sadly, they got pwned by Lakers afterwards...Strange how they won against NJ. Hatred for Vince is strong in this one. Good faith, brother!

Lowest in the Eastern Division overall is a good way to hit. Shaq and the bwoys ok? Their W/L are near equal and I haven't payed any attention to them in a while.

The D Man

12-08-2005, 05:01 PM

Those Bulls Throwbacks from the other night are quite possibly the ugliest Unis I have ever seen.

Hokuto Shingo

12-08-2005, 06:05 PM

alright so do they even call travelling on ginobli anymore

No they want Ginobili to be so good that they just let him travel and carry and foul all he wants. Its disgusting.

By the way this is my first post in the thread.

BshidoHEAT

12-08-2005, 06:11 PM

Dwight given props on TNT... that's awesome

GeoG2

12-08-2005, 07:22 PM

The Timberwolves are impressive. That's all I can say. I don't know how they're doing it, considering how much Wally has struggled. I guess they've regressed back to how they previously were... good enough to make the playoffs, but probably won't get past the first round...

Carpet Lint

12-08-2005, 07:23 PM

Deeeeeetroiiittt Basketballllllll !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Save It, Yall Already Know Tha Pistonz Gone Win Tha Championship Agein.

Why Botha.
Owned by SRK's anti-caps filter. Jesus, look at you. "Pistonz?" "Agein?" Good Lord.

Agein, just like last year?

...

OH WAIT - YOU GOT HORRY'D!!!

Cletus Kasady

12-08-2005, 09:49 PM

Hokuto: For one, you got the whole "foul" thing wrong; Ginobili "gets away" with flopping if anything. Plus, superstars all get the benefit of the doubt in terms of travelling/foul calls; stop hating on Ginobili just because he looks white and plays for the Spurs.

Anywho, those gold King's uniforms are the ugliest things.

I personally think the NBA needs to calm the fuck down with all the "retro" jerseys for three reasons; (1) half of them are ugly pieces of shit, (2) they seem to be pretty much making them up at this point, and (3) for some reason, Denver wears some retarded pieces of garbage instead of those cool 80's ones with the pixelated rainbow mountains, which were actually good.

GeoG2

12-08-2005, 11:00 PM

The Kings ones aren't even retros... they're new alternates. So unless they recieve a wave of criticism from fans, they'll be around for awhile.

Good grief, the Chicago and Miami ones this year are hot trash.

The D Man

12-08-2005, 11:02 PM

Speaking of the Kings, the Rockets have came back on that ass so to speak.

donaldducktm

12-08-2005, 11:14 PM

man talk about a collapse...

BshidoHEAT

12-09-2005, 08:15 AM

Good grief, the Chicago and Miami ones this year are hot trash.

Yes both are garbage... thankfully for Orlando fans.. Magic always have good uni's. :p

Adam Warlock

12-09-2005, 08:18 AM

Yes both are garbage... thankfully for Orlando fans.. Magic always have good uni's. :p
Yeah, it's the fucking team that's trash.

BshidoHEAT

12-09-2005, 10:38 AM

^can't blame the throwbacks ;)

Hoonyo

12-09-2005, 11:04 AM

going to the warriors/pistons game tonight!

PBalla

12-09-2005, 03:58 PM

damn, that should be a great PG matchup

donaldducktm

12-10-2005, 04:46 AM

going to the warriors/pistons game tonight!
did u take any pics?? the game was close from what the box scores tell me. :wgrin:

The D Man

12-10-2005, 07:53 PM

Dang.......

Lebron got 31 in the first half.

spideyman

12-10-2005, 10:49 PM

yea he dropped 52 and they still lost. ha ha. #1 pick with 21 points tonight. tj had 24 and 9 boards. go bucks baby.

Hoonyo

12-11-2005, 03:51 PM

Ron Artest stunned the Indiana Pacers on Saturday by requesting to be traded, telling the Indianapolis Star that he believes the team would be better off without him.

Artest, who has missed the Pacers' last two games because of a wrist injury, told the Star that he doesn't like playing for coach Rick Carlisle and would prefer to be dealt to the New York Knicks.Artest to Pacers: Trade me (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2255420)

GeoG2

12-11-2005, 08:54 PM

I watched that Miami/Washington game on TV... where they wore those horrible throwbacks. Its funny what colors can do. Both teams wore throwbacks which were essentially the same... but Miami's looked horrible because of the colors.

Oh yeah... Shaq is back, bitches. Get your calculators and pens out to see how long the winning streak goes up to.

The D Man

12-11-2005, 09:00 PM

SSHHAAAQQUUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE

OoooooooooooOOOOooooooooooooOOOO'

NNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALL

Cletus Kasady

12-11-2005, 09:03 PM

Either Ron Artest is clinically insane, or...I don't know. I mean, it's not like publicly approaching the media about a trade before talking to his GM is going to be a distraction for the team he apparently doesn't want to submarine.

Personally, if I were Joe Dumars, I'd give Donnie Walsh a call just to jokingly see whether Artest would like playing there if he wants a change of scenery. Other than that, I can't think of a trade that makes basketball sense for Artest; the Pacer's don't really have a hole to fill other than the hypothetical void at the 3 spot that Artest creates if he's traded or maybe a better PG. Since Walsh seems to have a pretty good idea of what he's doing, he probably wants no part of that Knicks team, and although Portland would be a match made in heaven for Artest, nobody wants any part of their nonsense. I don't think any teams that are good already really want to roll the dice on Artest either, so guys like Maggette/Marion/Anthony/Miller+Battier are probably out too.

All I can really see making sense is if Boston or LA decides to have a fire sale on Pierce or Kobe, and Indy throws in some of their depth and takes on a bad contract. Peja makes no real sense unless they're just trying to cut their losses with Artest; he doesn't play good defense and his offense is always suspect come playoff time.

Cletus Kasady

12-12-2005, 07:38 AM

On another note, Stan Van Gundy resigned and Pat Riley's taking his place. Like nobody saw that coming.

4neqs

12-12-2005, 07:53 AM

*hasn't watched in a bit, checks standings*

Hoooly smokes Detroit. :D

donaldducktm

12-12-2005, 12:24 PM

All I can really see making sense is if Boston or LA decides to have a fire sale on Pierce or Kobe, and Indy throws in some of their depth and takes on a bad contract. Peja makes no real sense unless they're just trying to cut their losses with Artest; he doesn't play good defense and his offense is always suspect come playoff time.
Artest is probably a little mentally ill. This guy is crazy in probably every aspect. He's hurting the team in the past and present. He's not going to give his full effort so I'm guessing he's probably going to half ass the entire season. He's just like Terrell Owens, but not as bad. He can play well, but it's inconsistent. That's about all I see from Artest.

I think the trade with LA is possible, but not for Kobe or Odom (top 2 stars on the team). The lakers won't have anybody else, and Kobe's contract is monstrous (7 years $130 million??). From what i'm reading from the papers, Kobe and Odom are the duels for LA and i don't think the front office will move those 2.

Although i think a trade with Boston is possible. Pierce is a good trading stock, but then again, if Boston isn't THAT stupid, they'll keep Pierce. He's done so much for the team...why give him away for a player who is possible to half ass his games and be unhappy in less than 1 year.

just my 0.02 cents

DA GAME

12-12-2005, 02:07 PM

On another note, Stan Van Gundy resigned and Pat Riley's taking his place. Like nobody saw that coming.
DA GAME saw that coming last season when Van Gundy didn't get the Heat to the Finals & plus Riley wanted to coach Shaq.Riley is so full of shit it's not even funny.Van Gundy did damn good job with the Heat & it's not his fault they are starting slow.Riley is only going to fuck the chemistry up.

UNION CAIN

12-12-2005, 04:10 PM

To Tha Cat Wit Tha M.bison Avatar. Shut Up Son You Juz Mad Cuz You From Toronto, Shut Cho Bitchass Up And Qwit Hatin On Tha Pistonz.

Why Botha

Def1n1tely

12-13-2005, 09:08 AM

donaldducktm

12-13-2005, 10:55 AM

damn 40 + points and game winning 3s... kobe played like a demon against the mavs last night

and kwame hella stepped up. finally dunked his hands on elmers glue before the game like i told him to

on another note: van gundy out... riley in.. i guess i'd rather want riley too, if my coach kinda resembled ron jeremy
Kobe was a beast that night. i don't really mind the points he put up, but he was clutch when they needed him to be. the fadeaway, hand in face 3-pointer was hella dope acrobatic-Jordan-Erving-like layup was sick!! :looney:

now that u mentioned Kwame and his hands....he seems to have a hard time holding the ball seriously...the guy barely grabs those rebounds with authority and the ball slips from his hands a lot. but last night, he made some spiffy moves and HOPEFULLY he'll keep doing those things...and grab more rebounds :wgrin:

Mario Lemieux!

12-13-2005, 10:26 PM

Babcock's at it again!

Saying he's willing to trade the the rookies if the right deal came along.

"Oh no....turns out the shit drafts turned into something good. I better correct this mistake!"

I hear the Celtics have a couple towels they are willing to part with for the services of Luthor, Hulk, and the Conquistador.

Ugh....

The D Man

12-13-2005, 10:49 PM

Uh-Oh

Heat on two game winning streak since Shaq's back.

I think Stan Van might've gotten a raw deal. He should at least be on the bench next to Riley or something. He did a good job last year, and a decent one meshing the new players this year. But it was likely a lot of pressure for him to handle. Maybe too much.......

Cletus Kasady

12-13-2005, 10:56 PM

Carpet Lint

12-13-2005, 11:17 PM

We have two picks this year. Ours and Denver's.

We can't trade our pick, because we still owe one to the Bobcats from that retarded Lamond Murray trade a few years back. (We traded with the Cavs but the Cavs gave our pick to Charlotte.)

So Babcock's saying that if the right deal comes along, then it's possible we could trade the Denver pick. I don't mind that much if we trade it. Denver's kinda meh right now, but a lot of people are predicting that they could finish like top five in the West, so the pick's not going to be that high (...low?) anyway.

And considering we already have J'onn J'onzz, Hulk, the Conquistador, Pape, Ukic, Slovar, and this year's draft pick in one or two years, that's a lot of youth already. So it's not a crazy idea to trade away a pick if we get an established player back.

We SHOULD trade it if the right deal comes along.

The only problem is what Babcock's definition of the right deal is.

But you know, for all the hate he gets, you have to look at his moves this year.

J'onn J'onzz - Fuck you, Stephen A Smith. This hairless freak is a BALLAH.

The Conquistador (or JOOOSEEE JOSEJOSEJOSE) - Excellent signing. He's putting up better rookie numbers than pretty much all of the other international points in the league did as rookies. He's averaging 6.2 assists!

Joey Graham - Solid pick. Still nothing to show that Granger or Green would have been a better pick.

Mike James for Rafer Alston - He FLEECED the Rockets on that one.

Babcock's had some excellent moves this year.

NeREMIXED

12-14-2005, 12:22 AM

Kobe was a beast that night. i don't really mind the points he put up, but he was clutch when they needed him to be. the fadeaway, hand in face 3-pointer was hella dope acrobatic-Jordan-Erving-like layup was sick!! :looney:

now that u mentioned Kwame and his hands....he seems to have a hard time holding the ball seriously...the guy barely grabs those rebounds with authority and the ball slips from his hands a lot. but last night, he made some spiffy moves and HOPEFULLY he'll keep doing those things...and grab more rebounds :wgrin:

the thing i hate about San Diego, is that we don't have KCAL9...

regarding the artest trade though. I say we trade Kwame + etc if possible.

Kobe/Odom/Artest = MJ/Pippen/Rodman???

Mario Lemieux!

12-14-2005, 01:41 PM

Okay, my mistake then....I first read it as trading the picks he made this year as in the 3 rookies.

Who do you think is available for pick up? I'm still hoping that Jesus will come to T.O. in the near future...

We really need a center badly though, arrr....MAYBE YAO!??!!?

!!!!~~!! Fleece the Rockets again!

(EDiittt)

Holy shit, the Yao thing could actually work. Rockets are doing terrible and pretty much do nothing with Yao. Rockets w/o T-Mac is useless.

Maybe they would see dealing Yao as a "shake-up" type deal and Rapts would be placed in a position similar to the Sharks with Thornton.

So like...Rose, E.Will, and one of the future picks for Yao would be awesome.

PC2000

12-14-2005, 04:33 PM

So like...Rose, E.Will, and one of the future picks for Yao would be awesome.

come on... that's not gonna happen lol

donaldducktm

12-14-2005, 05:15 PM

the thing i hate about San Diego, is that we don't have KCAL9...

regarding the artest trade though. I say we trade Kwame + etc if possible.

Kobe/Odom/Artest = MJ/Pippen/Rodman???
dude i was discussing a buddy of mine that Artest was the next Rodman. that's why i think the trade might work. Phil Jackson is known for keeping a team together, despite the Shaq and Kobe feud. i actually think that LA might be the next Bulls if we decide to get Artest somehow.

and why the fuck doesn't SD have a station to watch the Lakers?? what about Fox Sports Net 1/2???

Carpet Lint

12-14-2005, 11:22 PM

Rose, Eric Williams, and a pick for Yao is just as crazy as the Pacers trading Artest for Kwame and the rest of the Laker's garbage.

That Thorton trade was loopsided anyway.

In any trade, Rose is a negative. You would need to add incentive for teams to trade for Rose. He's getting paid like $16 NEXT SEASON. No one wants that contract.

And the Lakers couldn't possibly trade for Artest without losing either Kobe or Odom. Yeah, like Indiana would want the garbage you're trying to dump on other teams.

The best Artest possibility I see is to Phoenix. Artest + like Croshere or some salary filler for Marion. Talent level is as equal as you're going to get, Phoenix is looking to save money, they get some defense, and Indiana actually gets better - more scoring and Marion makes up the lack of rebounding they have from their centers.

Of course, I can't see this helping Phoenix until Amare comes back. They need Marion too much right now.

I honestly can't see any other scenario in which trading Artest wouldn't be a stupid move.

NeREMIXED

12-14-2005, 11:31 PM

dude i was discussing a buddy of mine that Artest was the next Rodman. that's why i think the trade might work. Phil Jackson is known for keeping a team together, despite the Shaq and Kobe feud. i actually think that LA might be the next Bulls if we decide to get Artest somehow.

and why the fuck doesn't SD have a station to watch the Lakers?? what about Fox Sports Net 1/2???

a lot of the away games are shown on KCAL. SD don't get that :(.

PBalla

12-15-2005, 11:26 AM

dude i was discussing a buddy of mine that Artest was the next Rodman. that's why i think the trade might work. Phil Jackson is known for keeping a team together, despite the Shaq and Kobe feud. i actually think that LA might be the next Bulls if we decide to get Artest somehow.

and why the fuck doesn't SD have a station to watch the Lakers?? what about Fox Sports Net 1/2???
why would the lakers want artest? He said himself he wants the ball too much for him to be on the pacers. He wont get the ball in LA.

snorlax

12-15-2005, 11:45 AM

Artest wants to play in a big market city to promote his Tru Warrior rap label. So, LA would be a possibility. Odom/Kobe/Artest/Bosh/Kwame would be a force to fear. LOL

donaldducktm

12-15-2005, 12:30 PM

Odom/Kobe/Artest/Bosh/Kwame would be a force to fear. LOL
lol where did Bosh come from???

yeah i don't really see the lakers getting Artest in the first place. The Lakers have no one to give away other than Kobe or Odom... and Phil/the organization isn't going to break a team apart midseason because the chemistry is good right now. i don't recall the lakers ever adding big name stars to their roster during midseason in the Phil Jackson era. I guess it's the right thing because right now, if the team ain't broke, don't fix it. At least not yet

and if artest wants to ball more often than usual, then i guess it's a no go to LA. Kobe is gonna get his shots and Phil isn't going to like him shoot a large percentage of the team's shooting. although we just need his defensive presence and toughness.

donaldducktm

12-15-2005, 02:50 PM

i went into further research and found that the Los Angeles Lakers were fined by Phil Jackson's comments on Chris Bosh.

NEW YORK, Dec. 15, 2005 – The Los Angeles Lakers have been fined $25,000 for public comments made by head coach Phil Jackson on December 8, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Senior Vice President Basketball Operations.
Jackson publicly expressed the Lakers’ interest in Toronto Raptors forward Chris Bosh, in violation of the NBA’s anti-tampering rule.

LA is very interested in Artest. it seems that the possible trade might be Kwame or Devean George + Bynum. big big big decision

NeREMIXED

12-15-2005, 03:17 PM

I think they'll like if they can get someone who wants to shoot the ball. Cause atm, it's only Kobe. It was a problem w/ Kobe/Shaq, now not so more. Odom still hasn't got that confidence. Every now and then he'll drive and dunk, but he still doesn't seem confident.

I hope they don't trade Bynum. I like that guy, I think he can grow with the organization.

EDIT:

It seems like the most likely trade (if there would be one) would be Odom. Pacers are gonna lose an all star, they'd want a quality player in return.

I don't want Odom to go either :(.

Ephidel

12-15-2005, 03:31 PM

I think kwame is better off coming off the bench. He claims that he wants to regain the trust in his team players and it's apparent that he wants his starting position back.

But hell, so far off the bench he's been rather impressive than what he was at the starting position - so why not keep him there for a while...

Feyz

12-17-2005, 12:20 PM

Artest said some of the criticism he has received has been unfair. Former NBA great Magic Johnson said Artest doesn't deserve a second chance in the NBA.

"It's like saying, 'Magic, should your wife give you another chance?'" Artest said "He's saying Ron Artest should have no more second chances. What's worse -- me saying I want to be traded or you cheating on your wife?"

I love magic but Artest owned him here... :rofl: :rofl:

Artest is a broken.

Morphiend

12-17-2005, 12:22 PM

omg artest owned magic harder than the hiv :rofl:

Def1n1tely

12-20-2005, 11:53 PM

donaldducktm

12-21-2005, 12:01 AM

so anyone still dont think kobe is still the best player in the league right now? i can happily defend my arguement by saying 18-31, 58% shooting, 22-25 free throws. oh and um oh yeah... 62 points in 3 quarters
i'd Def1n1tely say so. although he's not Jordan, he definitely has similar potential. or maybe even better??? when his career is over, we'll see :sweat:

KillerKai

12-21-2005, 12:30 AM

anyone got a clip to the clothesline on Kobe?

FireisWet

12-22-2005, 08:50 PM

LMAO Charles' head imposed on a behemoth of a white guy bustin fat assed moves..."Do that dance, do that dance!"

blankspaces

12-25-2005, 04:07 PM

did anyone hear what gary paton said? after the laker vs mami game he went up to someone an said something like " watcha gonna do now nigga"

that made me laugh

The D Man

12-25-2005, 04:37 PM

I think he was gettin at Lamar Odom.

Odom was like see you in L.A. or something.

DanielLarusso

12-25-2005, 05:21 PM

Lakers would have won that game if Kobe didn't go ice cold in the fourth. After further review, Miami will not be going to the finals this year.

Detroit is too good and Miami is too soft.

Ephidel

12-25-2005, 08:35 PM

Lakers would have won that game if Kobe didn't go ice cold in the fourth. After further review, Miami will not be going to the finals this year.

Detroit is too good and Miami is too soft.

That and the lakers didn't really have bench support. Kwame did an impressive job in somewhat trying to contain shaq and devan hit a couple of late 3's - but that's about it really for the bench in today's game for the lakers. How about Cook though? He had an outstanding game for the most part and you can't leave that guy open anymore...

donaldducktm

12-25-2005, 09:23 PM

the lakers actually had a chance to win. big time. i saw too many easy layups for the heat in the first half that should've at least be contested, but didn't. i give credit to the heat and also the Lakers. i thought they both played hard and the heat came out on top this time. next game: BACK IN LA!

GeoG2

12-25-2005, 11:26 PM

Too many people are on Kobe's nuts. Its like they don't remember McGrady dropping 62 early last year. Hell, he had assists too. But because Bryant does it, its more spectacular?

Anyway... yeah... LA deserved to win that game. Payton was on some other shit. I want to see LO knock his teeth out when they meet in LA.

Yansoma

12-25-2005, 11:43 PM

Chauncey says Iverson is the hardest person to guard.

Iverson says Chauncey is the best point guard in the NBA.

Ephidel

12-25-2005, 11:50 PM

Too many people are on Kobe's nuts. Its like they don't remember McGrady dropping 62 early last year. Hell, he had assists too. But because Bryant does it, its more spectacular?

Nah, I don't think everybody's acknowledging it like that. The thing is that kobe could of gotten at least 80 in that game but chose to sit out the fourth quarter against the mavs.

^All I know is that billups is shooting the lights out - He's very difficult to contain as of late....

donaldducktm

12-26-2005, 01:13 AM

I agree with Iverson and Billups. Those guys are probably the best point guards in the NBA at this moment. Billups has a ring, can shoot, and pass. Iverson specializes in almost every category except turnovers.

Hoonyo

12-26-2005, 02:52 AM

come on now

t-mac went for 13 points in 35 seconds

Get off kobes nuts

PBalla

12-26-2005, 02:56 AM

come on now

t-mac went for 13 points in 35 seconds

Get off kobes nuts
:nunchuck: :nunchuck:

Ephidel

12-26-2005, 10:11 PM

come on now

t-mac went for 13 points in 35 seconds

Get off kobes nuts

If that was directed to me than your mistaken big time. I'm just calling it like I see it, I could care less about kobe scoring anyway. I'm all about the little things like odom taking the rebound or cook hitting the outside jumper.

GeoG2

12-26-2005, 10:17 PM

Looking back at stats, McGrady had 10 boards and 5 assists to go along with 62. God, he's so grossly underrated compared to Kobe when he does some shit a LOT better.

Feyz

12-26-2005, 11:07 PM

LoL... the knicks got raped again... RJ & VC dunks all day!

Hoonyo

12-27-2005, 04:48 PM

SO where do you guys think Ron Artest will go?

I have no basis for this, but I think he will end up in LA. I'd like to see him end up with the Golden State Wariers. They could trade Mike Dunleavy (I think he can shine in Indiana) and somebody like Adonal Foyle for him. I just want to see Adonal get out of there so they can let Biedrins and Diogu develop more. Not only that, but I'd like to see them play Troy Murphy at center with Ike Digou at PF. The Wariers are stuggling right now, and I really want them to get Artest and guarantee themselves a playoff spot.

donaldducktm

12-27-2005, 05:28 PM

Yeah it sounds like Larry Bird really wants to get rid of Artest. He also mentioned that he's sending it to the Western Conference which means LA is a possible candidate team, but I don't see anyone leaving LA except Kwame Brown. The Warriors is a good choice and so is Portland, and maybe Utah

Cool-Breeze

12-27-2005, 08:11 PM

Well I once was a non-KOBE fan... Matter of fact I still am.

But Im starting to see where he is coming from, his help is limited, slim to none in fact. Lamar is a 16 - 10 - 4 guy. Why he isnt doing this is very mind boggling to me.

Kwame seems to be stepping up his level of play, a bit more intense these days.

Chris Mihm a monster in the first 6 to10 games has went down on the totem poll latelly, George did step up for big shots in the Miami game but is still a bit distant is it his injuries he is still recovering from or am I missing something??

Parker seems to be getting nice hype but I didnt see anything that would excite me in the Heat game.

At first Glance when you look at highlights etc, Kobe Seems to be a ball hog, but taking more carefull looks at the game play, movement on the court etc, his teammates just stand around and watch, Lamar to me still seems UN-Happy, The Whole Heat game he had this smirk on his face everytime Kobe shot a good fade away or took it to the rack as if to say " Shiittt Buck dat fool I can do that, But I dont feel Like it, Man why wont they trade me?"

Allen Iverson and Billups are right about each other, Both of these players are great, they can turn it on and off like a light switch at times.
Did anyone pay attention to the JV game, Spurs vs Pistons?
Billups was just deadly beyond the arc, and his post up ability just makes me question why they lost in the series in the first place???

The Answer also showed me alot in a losing effort though, I was at the Atlanta vs Sixers game a few days ago and it pissed me off. AI was stuck with Mr. 20 and 10 (Webber) who missed like 10 shots in the entire second half, Iverson might I add was a 53 point bread winner in this game and could have won it himself in my book, the other AI on the team stepped up big late but J.Smith (ATL) was shutting it down defensive-lly.
For some weird reason Webber was given the ball with more than 9 seconds left on the clock if I remember correctly. He stubbled and bumbled his way into a 1 to 3 foot shot that hit the front iron when he was being D-ed up by a 6'7" player???

Galactic

12-27-2005, 08:39 PM

You really can't tell a whole lot from the Spurs-Pistons game that was just played.

Let's break it down:

D-troit (Best starting 5 in the league, second best bench)

vs

Spurs (second best starting 5 in the league, best bench in the league)

HOWEVER, it was Detroit with 100% health vs a Spurs team with no Manu (who did a LOT against D-troit in the Finals) and a Tim Duncan with foot problems.

If we watch them both at full health, the game would have been much closer.

However much props to Detroit, they are tearing shit up right now, and they don't look like they're slowing down at all. Flip just picked up the ball and ran with that shit.

Spurs look good too, winning games even without one of their best players (Manu) and Tony Parker is just beasting as of late. His game has gone to an entirely new level, just blowing by EVERYBODY, including THE best defensive point guard in the game, Billups.

Spurs vs Pistons Finals again? And again? And again? Is this a rivalry of historic proportions in the making? I can see both these teams keeping this level of greatness for the next COUPLE of years.

and BTW, Kobe is eh. I'd rather have Lebron. And I'm not even one of those crazies on ESPN who overrate Lebron like crazy ("I'd rather have Lebron than Michael Jordan?" Are you fucking CRAZY?!?) Kobe is good, Lebron is good and makes everyone around him good. Kobe makes everyone around him WORSE. Lamar Odom is a MUCH better player than you're seeing right now. Yeah Kobe has (Shaq's) rings, but at the end of this season, let's see which team has the better record, Kobe's or Lebron's. because they are BOTH on nearly identical teams. They are the superstar with another good player backing them up (Ilgauskus, Odom) and some good perimeter shooters. (smush, hughes)

At the end of the season, let's see who REALLY makes their teams better.

BTW: I just came back from the Nets/Cleveland game, I got to see Lebron play in real life. It was a fun game.

And oh yeah, break out the fucking Nets.

^_-;

Cool-Breeze

12-28-2005, 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=Galactic]You really can't tell a whole lot from the Spurs-Pistons game that was just played.

BTW, Kobe is eh. I'd rather have Lebron. And I'm not even one of those crazies on ESPN who overrate Lebron like crazy ("I'd rather have Lebron than Michael Jordan?" Are you fucking CRAZY?!?) Kobe is good, Lebron is good and makes everyone around him good. Kobe makes everyone around him WORSE. Lamar Odom is a MUCH better player than you're seeing right now. Yeah Kobe has (Shaq's) rings, but at the end of this season, let's see which team has the better record, Kobe's or Lebron's. because they are BOTH on nearly identical teams. They are the superstar with another good player backing them up (Ilgauskus, Odom) and some good perimeter shooters. (smush, hughes)
[QUOTE=Galactic]

Hell no they are not the same. I dont even like the lakers and I have to defend them on this one. Larry hughes is Established, Smush is not. Hughes is considered a proven defender and threat when it comes to scoring who else besides Kobe is as well???

Like I Posted up above Lamar is a 16-10-4 guy but he chooses NOT to do so, I have watched the last ten games played by the lakers whether via internet ot television and Lamar who came from a worse team (Clippers) years ago, and a mediocre team in Miami plagued by injuries, should know when to get off, and how to, when has his defense been great this year?? When has Odom checked the best or second best scorer on the opponents tema and was succesful???
I dont see him doing anything but standing around and its pissing me off and im not Kobe.

True you think Lebron is making those around him better but in my mind these guys were average before he was even born, they are now placed around a great player which makes them seem larger than life when they have a 30 plus night or what not, Hughes has always played second fidle to an even better scorer than himself, his defense is over rated in my eyes,Toni KuKoc was never the bomb but he was mister 16-6-3 and clutch 3 point shot when needed due to Jordan's skill and sometimes Pippen.
Lamar has that same Potential but he jacks up crap like Antoine Walker so why should Kobe trust him with the rock in a heated part of the game?

Lakers DO NOT have a true big man, Clevelands big man has experience and his 10 a night are useful, no comparison there playa, Donyell doesnt play defense either but he does shot rather well so compare him to George I guess, Damon Jones, Drew Gooden by name alone out do anyone else named from the lakers.

People must face it Kobe will be carrying this team and if they make the playoffs its due to lake luster play from opponents and 35 plus nights by Kobe Bryant