The Official NBA 2005-06 Thread

[Carpet Lint]

Along with the East starting line-up dancing around, Shaq's intro with the robot/chest thing had me dying.

I wished they could have done that bit in Fresh Prince, when Will and Carlton were doing the Tonto (JUMP ON IT JUMP ON IT) dance at that strip club. My head would have exploded if that had happened.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Colangelo's officially stepped down as Suns GM and I guess will go to Toronto soon after...

If Toronto gets Nash, I will singlehandedly destroy all of Canada; no WAY he's leaving Phoenix, not on my watch.

[TGC]

Yea sad day for PHX to lose a good GM...but i don't think taking nash will be that easy honestly, especially if he has already resigned.

[Carpet Lint]

Well there's no officially way to get Nash to Toronto unless he waived him...and no other team picked him up, since the trading deadline's over, and he's already stepped down as Suns GM.

We were just kidding about it.

...

Honest.

I'm curious though - what's the waiver priority in the NBA like? Do teams with the currently poorest records get priority?

I don't want to get ahead of myself since Colangeo hasn't signed with us YET...but if he does, I actually think this would be the first time I'll ever praise the Toronto Raptors front office for doing something right.

Hahaha, Francis in New York...I still can't get over that.

[Mario Lemieux!]

Colangelo, Matrix, and Nash will join up later next season =D


You get nothingggg!

[Morphiend]

posting from the warriors/jazz game, great game so far, the warriors come back from 18 down to take the lead only to let harpring hit a three at the buzzer to send it to ot.

boozer and okur are beasting. boozer with 18 boards!

[Hoonyo]

dammit j-rich is a beast... rolled his ankle on a made 3pointer... leaves but comes back and stays on fire... FUCK i wish the warriors could make some god damn free throws.

[*InVeRs3*]

The warriors are cursed I tell you.
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Davis is the most underrated PG in the league.

[Cletus Kasady]

Baron Davis overdribbles and jacks up too many threes. Plus the most shrewd move made by any team last year was arguably getting rid of Baron Davis' contract (given that Chris Paul has more than filled his shoes).

But, on the plus side, cursed as the Warriors may be, Baron Davis isn't quite the Human Ebola Virus like Starbury/Franchise.

[BshidoHEAT]

BUT Starbury > Baron > Francis

BTW Darko is making me happy to be a Magic fan. Much like Dwight was (and still is) when he first got here :)

[FallingEdge]

BUT Starbury > Baron > Francis

BTW Darko is making me happy to be a Magic fan. Much like Dwight was (and still is) when he first got here :)

I feel ya man. We may be young, but we got some solid pieces in place. I'm excited :wgrin:

[Def1n1tely]

goddamn... last year it was kobe... this year its lamar who posterizes dwight howard...

its ok tho.. howard is still a beast

[BshidoHEAT]

Yeah fuck man, that dunk was bad.. (not as bad as Kobe's) but shit....

BTW Darko DID NOT PLAY IN THE 3RD QUARTER

A big WTF to B.Hill... you got Gayditty thowing up bricks and not one minute of Dark Magic...

YOU SUCK!!!!

[Cletus Kasady]

:lol: Maybe Darko will get Brian Hill fired again if his playing time dwindles.

[Carpet Lint]

Since Isiah already has three undersized, ball dominating, matador defense, shooting guards pretending to be point guards with mind boggling monstrous contracts in Crawford, Marbury, and Francis, I would think the next logical move would be to get Baron Davis as well.

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I picked up Darko for my fantasy team as soon as he was traded, thinking he was going to explode. I don't know what I was thinking - I'm desperate for anything.

My fantasy team this year is a complete car wreck. Some of the guys I drafted included...

Peja (who's playing better now, but is still having his worst season in like the past six)
Marbury
Maggette
Q-Rich (he averaged 18 points last year, COME ON!)
Kurt Thomas (playing in Phoenix = career year for everyone but him)
JO

I'm a fucking douchebag.

[Hunter D]

Since Isiah already has three undersized, ball dominating, matador defense, shooting guards pretending to be point guards with mind boggling monstrous contracts in Crawford, Marbury, and Francis, I would think the next logical move would be to get Baron Davis as well.


This ain't college basketball.

[Hoonyo]

Marbury, Francis, Davis, Crawford, Arenas on one team.

[ViciousSLASH]

Yeah fuck man, that dunk was bad.. (not as bad as Kobe's) but shit....

BTW Darko DID NOT PLAY IN THE 3RD QUARTER

A big WTF to B.Hill... you got Gayditty thowing up bricks and not one minute of Dark Magic...

YOU SUCK!!!!

Yeah B.Hill is dumb, what is he trying to do ? Get into the playoffs ?

Just let Dwight and Darko get as much playing time with each other as possible. Nelson too. VIVA LA YOUTH MOMENT ! They have 30 games of garbage time, use it ! Coach's GM's and Fans need to realize that instead of wasting the next half of the season, they should use it to plan for the next one.

I want to go to an office/locker room of a horrible team and see what they are talking about. Like are the hawks REALLY planning to go to the playoffs ? Do they have a meeting where it's like...

Gm - YEAH WE CAN DO THIS !

Coach - If I coach um up, we can win this thing !

All 25 small fowards - NO PROBLEM COACH, WE GONNA TRY !

Or are they like "Well let's get ready for the draft" after 10 games ? I mean DAMN, if they have so LONG to prepare, how can they fuck it up every year. It's retarded.

Carpet, you should be happy Coangelo is going to the the Raptors. The Sixers are still stuck with Billy "The big pussy who is afraid of Allen Iverson" King The Raps have a fucking MARTIAN, THEY HAVE A MARTIAN.

[Cool-Breeze]

:lol: Maybe Darko will get Brian Hill fired again if his playing time dwindles.

Ahhh what playing time :confused:


Yeah B.Hill is dumb, what is he trying to do ? Get into the playoffs ?

Just let Dwight and Darko get as much playing time with each other as possible. Nelson too. VIVA LA YOUTH MOMENT ! They have 30 games of garbage time, use it ! Coach's GM's and Fans need to realize that instead of wasting the next half of the season, they should use it to plan for the next one.

I want to go to an office/locker room of a horrible team and see what they are talking about. Like are the hawks REALLY planning to go to the playoffs ? Do they have a meeting where it's like...

Gm - YEAH WE CAN DO THIS !

Coach - If I coach um up, we can win this thing !

All 25 small fowards - NO PROBLEM COACH, WE GONNA TRY !

Or are they like "Well let's get ready for the draft" after 10 games ? I mean DAMN, if they have so LONG to prepare, how can they fuck it up every year. It's retarded.

Carpet, you should be happy Coangelo is going to the the Raptors. The Sixers are still stuck with Billy "The big pussy who is afraid of Allen Iverson" King The Raps have a fucking MARTIAN, THEY HAVE A MARTIAN.

Maybe there trying to reach the eight spot..... :rofl: :rofl: :arazz:
But on the real whats with all the Iverson hate, I notice Alot more people keep saying trade him???
I dont see why he has went up in like all his stats every year since they wanted more from him, He cant help it that he gets streaky one year im average next year im garbage players (Krover,Glenn,VanHorn,Muccollugh,WTF Todd Muccollugh)

[Carpet Lint]

Yeah, I was talking to my buddy today...and we were saying how weird it was that the last time the Sixers did really well was back in 2000, when they were first in the East and won that first game against the Lakers in the Finals. (And then Shaq woke up and they won four straight.)

That team had Iverson, and...Mutombo, Ratliff, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, Skeletor, George Lynch, Tony Kukoc, and Todd "the only Canadian ever to appear in an NBA Finals game" Macculloch.

I mean that's just Iverson + a team of role players. And that was the best Sixers team in like...twenty years!

Carpet, you should be happy Coangelo is going to the the Raptors. The Sixers are still stuck with Billy "The big pussy who is afraid of Allen Iverson" King The Raps have a fucking MARTIAN, THEY HAVE A MARTIAN.
I am tons happy, no doubt.

Things are looking up for Toronto! We got the Jays (2006 World Series Champions, LOCK) and the Raptors are looking good for the future, and the Leafs...are sucking, so maybe this city can finally wake the fuck up and realize the Leafs are never going to win it all, and maybe they can go watch baseball or basketball games instead.

I don't know much about college ball, but the guy I want Colangeo to draft is Shelden Williams!

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/headshots/shelden-williams-hd.jpg

It says he's a power foward, but I keep hearing how he can guard NBA centers. Whatever.

I'm already prepared. Check it out, two possible avenues to go with this one.

Hector Hammond - a super evolved human with like...brain powers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/DC/Hammond007.jpg

Or my personal preference, Giant Griffey, from that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns builds an All-Star baseball team to play against Shelbyville and Ken Griffey Jr. gets acute gigantism by drinking too much nerve tonic. HE LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM

Oh man...I want Giant Griffey on the Raptors so bad.

[NeREMIXED]

goddamn... last year it was kobe... this year its lamar who posterizes dwight howard...

its ok tho.. howard is still a beast

I wish Lamar (actually everyone for that matter) would play with that sort of intensity every game. As a team that was a real good game for the Lakers, I was hoping Kobe would score under 25, but he scored 28 :(.

Ronny Turiaf is fucking tight. Mark Madsen with a jump shot.

[Hunter D]

I don't know much about college ball, but the guy I want Colangeo to draft is Shelden Williams!


You're joking right? Williams is no where near as good as Bosh or the alien. Boone at uconn is a better player than williams.

[Carpet Lint]

Yeah, but I can't call him Giant Griffey.

[Mario Lemieux!]

ROFL!!!

He looks JUST like Griffey with gigantism assist, oh my god...


I...I can't stop laughing...!


Oh my Bosh, J'onn J'onnz, Golden Graham, Conquistador, Giant Griffey!!

2007 NBA Championship on lock!!


Damn...Colangelo said it's not likely they will be able to get Nash next season =\

Maybe they can get Matrix!


But Griffey...it has to be Griffey first. He'll win ROTY and then they will put him in the newest NBA game sporting a badass mugshot like the pixelated Griffey on the SNES Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball.

[Zephyranthes]

Man, Warriors lost that game to the Jazz the other night in OT. It was garbage. That game was ours. How the hell do you let Matt Harpring shoot a game-tying three-pointer with about 3 seconds left on the clock? Isn't it just common sense to foul before the shot and put them on the line? We got some messed up coaching and/or decision making, man. If I were playing NBA 2K6 or something, I'd be mashing on the Intentional Foul button before the other team could shoot the three.

Hector Hammond / Shelden Williams, that was a good one, I was laughing.

[TGC]

Nash and Matrix contracts don't expire next season...only amare's does...but...more than likely it will get renewed. The chemistry the suns have is too good, i doubt any of them would want to go the ways of Joe Johnson and break up a team like that.

[Cletus Kasady]

I thought they signed Amare to an extension already; he's from the same draft as Tayshaun and Yao and IIRC they're both locked up, so I figured Phoenix did the same with Amare as well.

[Zephyranthes]

Yeah, they signed him to an extension last offseason, he's locked up for a few more years. I think it's a 5 year deal for around 70 million.

[TGC]

Well then...that's said and done.

[Cletus Kasady]

Keep in mind that they had the chance to extend Joe Johnson in the 2004 offseason, but they didn't, put him off until the end of the season; which would have worked until he went apeshit and proved how valuable he was to that team as a second playmaker and boosted his market value.

[The D Man]

See what happens when Lamar Odom uses 5% of his talent? The Lakers will be brought back down to Earth on Monday though.

[Def1n1tely]

-penny hardaway gets cut

-jon barry gets cut

-jim jackson gets cut

-lakers beat pistons.... good shit

-kidd gets his 189309820358th triple double

-Duke loses to UNC

-Duncan finally scores over 20 pts but still fails to jump 5 inches from the floor

[GeoG2]

-penny hardaway gets cut

-jon barry gets cut

-jim jackson gets cut

-lakers beat pistons.... good shit

-kidd gets his 189309820358th triple double

-Duke loses to UNC

-Duncan finally scores over 20 pts but still fails to jump 5 inches from the floor

All in all... a good week for basketball.

[NeREMIXED]

See what happens when Lamar Odom uses 5% of his talent? The Lakers will be brought back down to Earth on Monday though.

if they can play with that kind of intensity every game, Lakers should be where the Clippers are at right now.

I was at the Lakers game btw. I haven't cheered like that since Horry's 3 in the third championship run.

LOTTA Pistons fans in the Staple's Center though. Not a whole lot, but enough to be noticed.

[Def1n1tely]

anyone buzzing about the roster for training camp for team usa?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2349009&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

-Iverson and Artest were not invited

-were Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd, Tracy McGrady, Richard Hamilton, Rashard Lewis, and Tayshaun Prince. Rashard Lewis , Ben Wallace turns down invitation

-Lamar Odom replaces Rashard Lewis invite

-The new list of players is now:

Carmelo Anthony, Denver
Gilbert Arenas, Washington
Shane Battier, Memphis
Chauncey Billups, Detroit
Chris Bosh, Toronto
Bruce Bowen, San Antonio
Elton Brand, L.A. Clippers
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers
Dwight Howard, Orlando
Josh Howard, Dallas
LeBron James, Cleveland
Antawn Jamison, Washington
Joe Johnson, Atlanta
Shawn Marion, Phoenix
Brad Miller, Sacramento
Lamar Odom, L.A.Lakers
Chris Paul, NO/Okla. City
Paul Pierce, Boston
Michael Redd
Luke Ridnour, Seattle
Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix
Dwyane Wade, Miami

-Shaq still undecided

-Bryant, James, Wade, Bosh and Marion seems to have a locked spot for the world championship in Japan

-college players, reddick, morrison, and oden were also invited to training camp

ts pretty crazy how they're taking this shit all seriously now instead of just throwing in a bunch of all stars like the last olympics. I hope these games get televised.

[ckrazy]

they lost last time that why i mean usa always won gold in basketball till 04 with this team they better win gold....

[Morphiend]

there was just some college game where one of the cheerleaders fell off the top of the pyramid and had to be carried out on a stretcher in a neck brace...the funny part was that she was still cheering while strapped to the stretcher. just an amusing sight to see.

[donaldducktm]

anyone buzzing about the roster for training camp for team usa?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2349009&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

-Iverson and Artest were not invited

-were Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd, Tracy McGrady, Richard Hamilton, Rashard Lewis, and Tayshaun Prince. Rashard Lewis , Ben Wallace turns down invitation

-Lamar Odom replaces Rashard Lewis invite

-The new list of players is now:

Carmelo Anthony, Denver
Gilbert Arenas, Washington
Shane Battier, Memphis
Chauncey Billups, Detroit
Chris Bosh, Toronto
Bruce Bowen, San Antonio
Elton Brand, L.A. Clippers
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers
Dwight Howard, Orlando
Josh Howard, Dallas
LeBron James, Cleveland
Antawn Jamison, Washington
Joe Johnson, Atlanta
Shawn Marion, Phoenix
Brad Miller, Sacramento
Lamar Odom, L.A.Lakers
Chris Paul, NO/Okla. City
Paul Pierce, Boston
Michael Redd
Luke Ridnour, Seattle
Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix
Dwyane Wade, Miami

-Shaq still undecided

-Bryant, James, Wade, Bosh and Marion seems to have a locked spot for the world championship in Japan

-college players, reddick, morrison, and oden were also invited to training camp

ts pretty crazy how they're taking this shit all seriously now instead of just throwing in a bunch of all stars like the last olympics. I hope these games get televised.
wait, this is the list to the whole USA squad? or is this some kind of tryout to be apart of team USA?

on that last play by Stephen Jackson ftw was too darn easy for the pacers....76ers' defense broke down at the last second...literally

[Def1n1tely]

except for Bryant, James, Wade, Bosh and Marion who are in for sure... the rest are going to be trying out in training camp... so theres still gonna be cuts... the world champions in Japan will have 12 players... the team for olympics will have 15 i think, w/ 3 inactive players...

on another note... phx comes back from being down by 13 and beats dallas on their own homecourt... streak snapped

[Hoonyo]

Whoo Suns! :bgrin: I'm telling you guys the Suns can go all the way.

Diaw with a triple-double certainly helps my fantasy team too.

[KillerKai]

LA Kobes finally became the LA Lakers once again. good shit.

Also, all shaq has to do is say yes the night before Team USA's first game and he's on. So I'm still holding out for him. Shaq and Kobe one last time would look nice.

[Morphiend]

Whoo Suns! :bgrin: I'm telling you guys the Suns can go all the way.

Diaw with a triple-double certainly helps my fantasy team too.

i hate you :(

[TGC]

Man what a freakin game today Suns @ Dallas...

I was really getting worried about Dallas, they were on Fire, Suns didn't have an answer for dirk, but I should know better....they would pull through in the 4th.

[BshidoHEAT]

I'm hoping that Dwight accepts that inventation. It'd be a great experience for him :)

[Anubis]

Keep in mind that they had the chance to extend Joe Johnson in the 2004 offseason, but they didn't, put him off until the end of the season; which would have worked until he went apeshit and proved how valuable he was to that team as a second playmaker and boosted his market value.The off-season showed a lot of Jackson's talent for the Suns. If he didn't get injured, I believe they could have beaten San Antonio.

Quentin Richardson was a big letdown when he was picked up from The Clippers. Letting him go was the best thing they could have done.

[GeoG2]

Nash is a monster.

That is all.

[Hoonyo]

Yao is also a monster.

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

When everyone around him is 6'9'', he should be.

[Hoonyo]

When everyone around him is 6'9'', he should be.
Check out his game log man. He's been a monster since his return from toe injury.

[kindaichi]

Argentine coach praises Iverson snub, blasts James
March 5, 2006

OLAVARRIA, Argentina (Ticker) - The World Championships are nearly six months away, but the trash-talking already has begun.

The coach of defending Olympic champion Argentina said Sunday that Team USA made a smart decision in not giving superstar Allen Iverson an invitation and that 21-year-old wunderkind LeBron James "plays for the show."

Sergio Hernandez, who has replaced the wildly successful Ruben Magnano, also said the United States squad only warrants the "Dream Team" moniker if it actually plays as a team.

As has been reported for several days, Iverson's name was not on the list announced Sunday of 23 players invited to training camp by USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo. Hernandez said that is a good thing, insinuating Iverson is a selfish player.

"I say all this with a lot of respect: If you want to play like a team, you must leave out Iverson first," he said. "I think the Americans want to change their image. If Iverson was the star of the last squad and that team failed, why would the coach call Iverson?"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?sl...ov=st&type=lgns

[Hoonyo]

i hate you :(
Oh yes. 9-3 week baby. :]

[Morphiend]

Oh yes. 9-3 week baby. :]

wow wasn't expecting that one. hoping maybe a 6-7 or something. bah it's on in the playoffs. my team better get it together :(

[NeREMIXED]

Manu/Finley/Nick KILLED the Lakers...shit was nuts.

IMO they played Duncan well...but them 3 along with Parker breaking down their defence...omg.

[donaldducktm]

yeah, i was reading the live updates of the Lakers game and all i saw was Finley made 3-pointer...Finley made 3-pointer....Parker made jumpshot....Bryant made 27 foot 3 pointer....Finley made 3-pointer....

[Carpet Lint]

At least we have now found Tim Duncan's secret weak spot. Just stab him in the eye every game and it's cool.

It's like in shooters - he'll expose it after a predictable attack pattern (post up, fake pass, drop step, drop step, off the glass hook) and when you shoot it, it starts to blink. (LOL PUN FTW)

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Has anyone seen this before?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XKhP3PnB_xM

Shaq is just...ridiculous. Who's going to replace this guy when he's gone? Goddamn, I'll miss him when he retires.

[HuStLeMaN17]

The NBA is showing Iverson no LOVE!

[Hoonyo]

Wow. donaldducktm why are you going through with that trade?!

Gilbert Arenas and Chris Paul for....

CHRIS MIHM AND STEVE FRANCIS WTF

[Cool-Breeze]

Anyways fuck the NBA, Iverson has stepped up his game and become way more of a TEAM player then those fucks want to give him props for.

Also as far as the So called Olympic Team goes...
WE DIDNT HAVE ANY REAL THREE POINT SHOOTERS.
Thats all there is to watch out for in the olympics is shooters and the past few olympics we didnt recieve gold we didnt have any REAL 3 Point shooters, exspecially now since Ray Allen Turned down his offer ( I would have as well)

The ORIGNAL DREAM TEAM wasnt just a team of all stars, they were a team full of the best TEAM PLAYERS the NBA had to offer at that time.
Some how we have grown away from that over the years.

[Carpet Lint]

Back then, Jordan could have played five random European dudes on his own, 5-on-1 and he could still have won.

The problem with the last US team was...
- No point guards (Marbury and Iverson? LOL)
- No shooters (After Redd didn't get invited and they waited too long to invite Rip, Jefferson and Marion were the best jumpshooters and they both sucked it up, and Wade and Lebron weren't given minutes)
- No center (No Brad Miller, Duncan was playing out of position as the only center)

But I think the main one was the shooting. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of their freakish athletism, but that's probably more of a problem with the point guards.

Also, Larry Brown is overrated as hell, and he killed that team.

[Cool-Breeze]

Back then, Jordan could have played five random European dudes on his own, 5-on-1 and he could still have won.

The problem with the last US team was...
- No point guards (Marbury and Iverson? LOL)
- No shooters (After Redd didn't get invited and they waited too long to invite Rip, Jefferson and Marion were the best jumpshooters and they both sucked it up, and Wade and Lebron weren't given minutes)
- No center (No Brad Miller, Duncan was playing out of position as the only center)

But I think the main one was the shooting. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of their freakish athletism, but that's probably more of a problem with the point guards.

Also, Larry Brown is overrated as hell, and he killed that team.

No you gotta remember the rules in the olympics shit is ticky tack, Iverson nor Starbury could dominate with those rules.
And get off jordans nut sake he didn't dominate alone the DREAM TEAM was exactlly that I dont remember seein that fuck scoring that average of 104 points per game or was it 140, on the road to the gold.
Yes Wade Lebron didnt get playing time but they were also rookies so pfft.
Marion AINT A DAMN SHOOTER the matrix shoots like a girl why doesnt anyone notice that yet, look at some vids on NBA.com and see what im talking about.

Jefferson no, not the kind of shooter we needed and thats my soul point, I dought we will win it this time either unless,,,,,,,,,,

[Def1n1tely]

Also, Larry Brown is overrated as hell, and he killed that team.

so fuckin true.. i never know why he keeps getting put up on the list of great coaches

- how can u fuck up a team w/ iverson, wade, lebron, duncan, matrix, melo, etc
- the guy leaves the pistons to go to the knicks and even gets praise for it because he doesn't always coach superstars (as opposed to Phil Jackson) ... um yeah sure guy... and look at the knicks now.. and damn... the pistons sure look like they're really missing him too

same time.. i feel sorry for him now tho... after they brought francis in... i swear its like isiah is purposely trying to kill larry brown..

Poppovich > Brown... on any day of the week

[The D Man]

I wanted JJ to hit 50. Damn, Joe why couldn't you light it up in the 4th too.

Larry Brown isn't the right guy for the Knicks. Not with the team they put out there now. Every other day someone's in his stupid "doghouse". This isn't the Pistons Larry. You don't have a defensive minded team.

And why the fuck did he stop starting Channing Fyre?

[Carpet Lint]

Larry Brown doesn't suck, let's not go overboard. But there's definately types of situations and teams that he's better suited for. He makes underachieving units play better together by making them stick to his system, but he's obviously not a good coach for a developing team (Knicks) and I don't think he can handle too many egos like Pop or Phil Jackson can.

But yeah, the Knicks doing so badly this year and blocking him out, the Pistons doing even better with Flip in charge, and the last Olympic team - all aren't helping his image much.

No you gotta remember the rules in the olympics shit is ticky tack, Iverson nor Starbury could dominate with those rules.
They didn't have a classic point (Nash, Kidd, Chris Paul, etc.) to set up the offense, and instead had two guys that are probably better suited to play SG. It can work, obviously, but you'd have to tailor the team to them, and when you're putting together so many different guys for the first time and not giving them a lot of time to play together, you gotta keep it simple.

And get off jordans nut sake he didn't dominate alone the DREAM TEAM was exactlly that I dont remember seein that fuck scoring that average of 104 points per game or was it 140, on the road to the gold.
I'm just playing man. I don't think the international competition was so great back then anyway. Jordan or not, probably any of the guys on the original Dream Team could probably have beat most of those teams by themselves.

But yes, they played as a team, yes. And that only worked because they had clear roles to play, with everyone differing to Jordan as the go-to-scorer since guys like Bird were getting old and injured and content to play a supporting role.

I think it's a lot harder to play team ball if there isn't a clear alpha dog like with Jordan. You got like twelve different guys who are all the first options on their own teams trying to play together...it's going to be tricky.

Which is why it kind of made sense not to invite Iverson, because there's no way you can have Iverson and Kobe on the same team. But still...with the way he handled himself and the fact that Duncan and him were the only top tier guys that volunteered to go last year...they owed him a lot more than that.

Yes Wade Lebron didnt get playing time but they were also rookies so pfft.
Marion AINT A DAMN SHOOTER the matrix shoots like a girl why doesnt anyone notice that yet, look at some vids on NBA.com and see what im talking about.

Jefferson no, not the kind of shooter we needed and thats my soul point, I dought we will win it this time either unless,,,,,,,,,,
Jefferson and Marion were the best jump shooters on the last team. The fact that they aren't exactly the best jump shooters in the league proves the point that the team was flawed.

I'm pretty sure Wade and maybe Carmelo were the better jump shooters, even back then, and they should have gotten minutes because of that.

And Marion's shot is like the wackest shot in the league, but dude, IT GOES IN. He's got a .518 FG% this year, and he has a career .347 3PT%. It's funny to look at and it's fundamentally terrible, but he hits so many shots from all over that you can't say anything about it.

Josh Childress too man. His shot is uglier than Marion's (probably the ugliest looking shot in the league), and I didn't know this, but he's been one of the best shooters in the league this year.

Having a guy like Redd or RIP could have single-handedly saved that last team, and they would be smart to put in a couple of dead-eye jump shooters this time around.

And completely unrelated, but Bosh's 18 footer is so money it hurts. I always find it so unfair when big guys like Duncan, Bosh, Amare, Dirk, or Sheed can shoot that smoothly. It's just unfair.

[Cletus Kasady]

Josh Childress too man. His shot is uglier than Marion's (probably the ugliest looking shot in the league), and I didn't know this, but he's been one of the best shooters in the league this year.

I know I saw Walter McCarty on some team somewhere, but back when he was getting minutes for Boston, he showcased his ugly shot for all the world to see.

[Galactic]

*sigh*... I don't want to say this, because I said it before and he fell off... but...

Break out Yao Ming.

What the FUCK is up with Jason Kidd? He couldn't score 5 more points to get his goddamn triple double?

It pisses me off how many times Jason Kidd has missed his triple double by like, ONE rebound or ONE assist... But POINTS, that's on him.

^_-;

[Hoonyo]

*sigh*... I don't want to say this, because I said it before and he fell off... but...

Break out Yao Ming.Yup. I'm still waiting for the analysts to give him his props. In fact, I'm going to watch NBA Fastbreak in about 20 minutes to see if they have anything good to say about Yao.

[merdoc]

o_0 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7531781760418547764&q=xmen

[fei long]

they need to stick billups and paul on that team pronto, real point guards

[donaldducktm]

o_0 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7531781760418547764&q=xmen
is that even legit???

[HaiDuongRiceMan]

Err, that was a Powerade commercial awhile ago. Pretty sure that's fake.

[Cool-Breeze]

Aight first off that comercial wasnt fake, they hadnt yet given him the script for the commercial he was in warm ups just goofing off and... there you go.

Secondly GOOD POST CARPET LINT.

Fei Long is correct as well, Chauncey of the bench for the Olympic team woulr be hella solid and I would start Steve Nash, I think he is younger than Kidd, his shoot is better plus his shot selection, his dribble penetration, and his Point Guard eyes.
Just look at the mans team, wasnt boris Diaw a Hawk now he is like GOD in Phoneix land??? And who the fuck said they were missing Joe johnson, hell ahhhh DIAW PEOPLE:confused:

Third ummm Yao gets no props, so what his scoring average went up, its supposed to when you add more weight to a soft as 7'6 fuck, I would dominate as well.
Make me 7'1 275 pounds for a month SHAQ wouldnt be shit old ass nikka.

Ugly shots crew:
Juwan Howard
The Matrix
Walter McCarty
josh Childress
Micheal Olowokandi (when that fuck actually wants to play)

(Add to this list people)

Finally "FUCK THE FANTASY LEAGUE WE ARE IN, ITS HELLA GARBAGE"
You people vetoed a trade from a mo-fo at the very BOTTOM of the league with almost no chance of coming up in 4 weeks, but you did this twice, and the trade that was offered wasnt bull shit because Steve Francis his last 5 games has averaged 18.3 points and the same in assists as he did in orlando sooooo where is the bull shit???

Also Yahoo doesnt even post real stats any more, also they post stats late and im currently losing go the number 2 guy because the stats came in three days later.

The number one guy and starter of the league started the season off with this bull shit now look at his team, and you all complaining about an even swap in point guards and the bottom guy getting some rebounds Pfffft hella stupied.

Im now saying next season I dont think I will be playing with you guys because there were only four guys (Who I will not mention) who even took the league seriously which was a waste of time.

[TGC]

Phew Nash said his injury wasn't serious, and so far it looks good to go...GOOD because i paid a lot of money to get into tomorrow's game against SA, and if nash isn't there, well...there might be a riot outside the arena.

[donaldducktm]

Finally "FUCK THE FANTASY LEAGUE WE ARE IN, ITS HELLA GARBAGE"
You people vetoed a trade from a mo-fo at the very BOTTOM of the league with almost no chance of coming up in 4 weeks, but you did this twice, and the trade that was offered wasnt bull shit because Steve Francis his last 5 games has averaged 18.3 points and the same in assists as he did in orlando sooooo where is the bull shit???

Also Yahoo doesnt even post real stats any more, also they post stats late and im currently losing go the number 2 guy because the stats came in three days later.

The number one guy and starter of the league started the season off with this bull shit now look at his team, and you all complaining about an even swap in point guards and the bottom guy getting some rebounds Pfffft hella stupied.

Im now saying next season I dont think I will be playing with you guys because there were only four guys (Who I will not mention) who even took the league seriously which was a waste of time.i didn't want to say it, but it's so true

[HuStLeMaN17]

Isiah Thomas < Larry Brown dont forgert that....

[Morphiend]

there is nothing wrong with the fantasy league other than people whining.

there is absolutely no justification for
gilbert arenas and
chris paul
for
steve francis and
chris mihm

people stated in the league it was broken, I got emails saying it was broken so that's all needed to veto it.

it isn't about him being in last as much as him stacking the other team. I don't get what's so hard to se about that. I received absolutely zero complaints about my trade at the beginning of the season other than from the leagues number one bitch whiner and the managers I've talked to about it have said it was legit so you can kill that noise right there.

I've left the other pending trade open because its more fair.

[Cool-Breeze]

there is nothing wrong with the fantasy league other than people whining.

there is absolutely no justification for
gilbert arenas and
chris paul
for
steve francis and
chris mihm

people stated in the league it was broken, I got emails saying it was broken so that's all needed to veto it.

it isn't about him being in last as much as him stacking the other team. I don't get what's so hard to se about that. I received absolutely zero complaints about my trade at the beginning of the season other than from the leagues number one bitch whiner and the managers I've talked to about it have said it was legit so you can kill that noise right there.

I've left the other pending trade open because its more fair.

Bull shit people complained about that Peja trade from jump quit fake-ing the funk, Secondly Chris Paul cancels out Francis because there doing the same damn thing stat wise isnt that what you always talking about???:confused:

He needs boards right?? Aight then Donald Trade with me AND League Pass you will guaranteed get your boards that way, true Gilbert is almost to much but ONE Player getting 30 or 40 doesnt help you win LOOK AT THE MANS POSITION IN THE LEAGUE.
Also YOU caressing all the best damn forwards in the game doesnt help out either, you been offering up bull shit trades from day one, and what did I say was gonna happen to Boozer once AK-47 got back???
I was right wasnt I, he suddenly became one dimensional, Stove top was willing to trade with League pass weeks ago then some one threw a wrench in it, even stove top will tell you.

Hey Stove top how many times were you offered Wally on Jamison but it got closed??? EXactlly my point.

Im still Offering Sheed, and Iverson where are the legit trades at???
Im getting offers like fucking brevin knight and tyson chandler, fuck outta here, Fool even offered me Speedy Claxton then the next day dropped em, how stupied coulld I be, then you tried to sell me on him for like 2 hours mannnnnn
STOP WITH THESE SHANANIGINS PLEASE!!!!

[google]

Aight first off that comercial wasnt fake, they hadnt yet given him the script for the commercial he was in warm ups just goofing off and... there you go.


That commercial is fake. I'm sorta associates with some of the people who worked on it.
Come on now, Lebron can barely make clutch free throws.

[jae hoon]

Yup. I'm still waiting for the analysts to give him his props. In fact, I'm going to watch NBA Fastbreak in about 20 minutes to see if they have anything good to say about Yao.


No they wont, Steven A Smith hasnt said shit about him in the last month either. This was the Yao I was expecting at the start of the season. Yao said I believe about a week and a half ago, that he finally realizes he needs to be more selfish and not worry about the team so much. Hence forth for the improved record and Yao putting up 26 and 14 a night in the last 8. Next year this is Yao's team not TMacs.

[donaldducktm]

there is nothing wrong with the fantasy league other than people whining.

there is absolutely no justification for
gilbert arenas and
chris paul
for
steve francis and
chris mihm

people stated in the league it was broken, I got emails saying it was broken so that's all needed to veto it.

it isn't about him being in last as much as him stacking the other team. I don't get what's so hard to se about that. I received absolutely zero complaints about my trade at the beginning of the season other than from the leagues number one bitch whiner and the managers I've talked to about it have said it was legit so you can kill that noise right there.
I've left the other pending trade open because its more fair.LOL! man, if only if u opened ur eyes.

[Hoonyo]

check it out

the past 5 games chris paul has been averaging 18 pts 10.6asts 5.2rebs
the past 5 games steve francis has been averaging 14.2 3.8asts 3.2rebs

steve francis can't do more than that because of his shitty situation (playing less minutes on a team with a hundred other me-first players)

now chris mihm for gilbert arenas? im not even going to say anything about that shit. if he wanted a big man that rebounds, he should've tried getting something like YAO who has been an absolute beast since his return from his injury. yao for arenas is a much better deal than arenas for mihm. arenas for mihm is just plain stupid. if he really just wanted rebounds, a trade arenas for ben wallace would've been better than arenas for mihm though not a good trade either IMO.

and cool-breeze, morphiend hasnt been denying the trade between jamison and sczerbiak. it was me denying you. there was a point in the season when jamison was in a funk, and scerbiak was on fire. jamison finally stabilized so i decided to keep him.

[Cool-Breeze]

check it out

the past 5 games chris paul has been averaging 18 pts 10.6asts 5.2rebs
the past 5 games steve francis has been averaging 14.2 3.8asts 3.2rebs

steve francis can't do more than that because of his shitty situation (playing less minutes on a team with a hundred other me-first players)

now chris mihm for gilbert arenas? im not even going to say anything about that shit. if he wanted a big man that rebounds, he should've tried getting something like YAO who has been an absolute beast since his return from his injury. yao for arenas is a much better deal than arenas for mihm. arenas for mihm is just plain stupid. if he really just wanted rebounds, a trade arenas for ben wallace would've been better than arenas for mihm though not a good trade either IMO.

and cool-breeze, morphiend hasnt been denying the trade between jamison and sczerbiak. it was me denying you. there was a point in the season when jamison was in a funk, and scerbiak was on fire. jamison finally stabilized so i decided to keep him.

Also you wrong Francis had 2 18 point games 2 11 point games and one 12 that is about 15 to 16 point average out of six games also we talking about YAHOO STATS go look at his average I bet it says what i just estimated.
Chris Paul had a 23 a 14 a 4 a 19 and I think 23 or 25, his average for 5 games about 17 or 18, go look at yahoo, Im telling you to do it because I know im right I dont have to look at it, once you see it say average for 5 games you gonna be like WTF damn Iceman was correct.

Gilbert can score 100 points a game but in fantasy he has to post stats in each block to be effective and he usually does but the higher he goes the lower other stas go, compare him to Iverson, dont the do about the same??
I DONT HAVE WALLY Im the Impact players Bra get your story straight.

Secondly you never denied the Jamison thread fool you the one that brought the idea up to League Pass first, He denied the first one, not all the rest and the proff is when you left him a message on the post blog of the league saying "League Pass Stop tease-ing" Because he was offering up Wally so much now am I lying???

Suddenly when the league runner started kissing your ass and I think Rice Rockets or Dynasty trades start going down hill, How did he suck up you ask??
"The Only temas Im worried about are Stove top Stuffing and (Cant remember the second team right now)"
Then he gets beat now the trades you have going get smashed???
And Wally had a whole week that week full of 22 point and higher, I watched all this shit that was the week I was in 8th place, im in third now, then people started talking about intangibales BLAH and more bull shit.

People wanted me to give up ALL STARS for POTENTIAL and that dont work.
Look at my previous post who out of those 2 names and on my team cant help you win more?? the only person on my team that averages above 21 is Iverson Rip slipped long time ago and im in third, Donald got Kobe and Gilber and Paul and cannot win???

I bet if he took Iverson and some others he would almost make the final playoff spot.

[The D Man]

Both of the trades were bullshit, period. He just wants to fuck something up and stack somebody else's team.

[Hoonyo]

these are francis's numbers since he was traded (last 7 games)
16, 9, 12, 19, 18, 11, 11 ~ 13.7 points
4, 2, 1, 5, 5, 4, 4 ~ 3.6 assists
5, 4, 2, 2, 4, 5, 3 ~ 3.6 rebounds

these are paul's numbers the last 7 games
27, 18, 23, 19, 25, 9, 14 ~ 19.3 points
6, 7, 8, 8, 14, 12, 11 ~ 9.4 assists
3, 2, 2, 5, 7, 8, 4 ~ 4.4 rebounds

francis isn't in a good situation, and he isn't going to produce more than that IMO.

As for jamison, yes i offered first to whoever league pass is and he denied it. luckily for me he denied it because jamison started posting more 20/10ish games not too long after. the reasons i wanted szczerbiak were: 20pts a game and shooting a high fg%, high ft%, decent amount of assists. i said dont tease me to league pass when he proposed the trade again because jamison was still in his funk, but i waited it out and jamison started to produce again. so what's the problem here? i still dont get it.

[Galactic]

Wow, that houston game was nuts! Yao is having a great month! TOo bad he plays DALLAS twice, and SAN ANTONIO twice in like, the next week...

^_-;

[Carpet Lint]

I know I saw Walter McCarty on some team somewhere, but back when he was getting minutes for Boston, he showcased his ugly shot for all the world to see.
And this guy was a .380ish% three shooter for a couple of years, wasn't he? That's weird how all the guys who have wack shots are generally above league average jump shooters.

Desmond Mason's shot is kinda weird looking too.

And Jason Kidd's shot is always kind of weird to look at, with the complete lack of follow-up. He just throws it up and IMMEDIATELY yanks his hands back. Iverson does that too. AI has a cool shot though. He kicks his feet out - it's like he needs every inch of his body to generate the momentum needed to shoot the ball that far. I love AI, it's like every basket he scores is such a huge struggle for him...and yet he does nothing but score.

Shit, how do you not invite a guy who's second in league scoring with 33.4 POINTS PER GAME? He could be Ron Artest doped up with Barry Bonds' drugs and I wouldn't care. Still baffles me.

[fei long]

are you kidding me? steve francis > chris paul? steve franchise is one of my favorite players but even i can clearly see cp3 is beasting over him in points,rebounds,assists ft% steals and fewer turnovers..also add to the fact franchise was drafted no lower than 25-30 and chris paul was a mid draft pick..

sorry bro cp3 hands down this year

[donaldducktm]

these are francis's numbers since he was traded (last 7 games)
16, 9, 12, 19, 18, 11, 11 ~ 13.7 points
4, 2, 1, 5, 5, 4, 4 ~ 3.6 assists
5, 4, 2, 2, 4, 5, 3 ~ 3.6 rebounds

these are paul's numbers the last 7 games
27, 18, 23, 19, 25, 9, 14 ~ 19.3 points
6, 7, 8, 8, 14, 12, 11 ~ 9.4 assists
3, 2, 2, 5, 7, 8, 4 ~ 4.4 rebounds

francis isn't in a good situation, and he isn't going to produce more than that IMO.

As for jamison, yes i offered first to whoever league pass is and he denied it. luckily for me he denied it because jamison started posting more 20/10ish games not too long after. the reasons i wanted szczerbiak were: 20pts a game and shooting a high fg%, high ft%, decent amount of assists. i said dont tease me to league pass when he proposed the trade again because jamison was still in his funk, but i waited it out and jamison started to produce again. so what's the problem here? i still dont get it.
if u took all the time putting these numbers together, why didn't u pay attention to the trade that DHC had? now THAT was clearly obvious. the reason why i'm pointing this out is because i'm wanting a trade that is LEGIT.... if guys think my trade is not legit, than u have to see DHC's first trade.... damn u guys are blind. if u want me to pull out the numbers for that, i will be gladly do it just for fun

and it's also kinda fishy that paint police doesn't play anymore. seriously, for those that play in the srk, did u guys even see this? serious question

[PopTardO]

god that shot by Jones was B-A-N-A-N-A-S
i was frick there...wen peterson got that 3 whole place was on fire then jones scored...everyone was like wtf...

[Hoonyo]

if u took all the time putting these numbers together, why didn't u pay attention to the trade that DHC had? now THAT was clearly obvious. the reason why i'm pointing this out is because i'm wanting a trade that is LEGIT.... if guys think my trade is not legit, than u have to see DHC's first trade.... damn u guys are blind. if u want me to pull out the numbers for that, i will be gladly do it just for fun

and it's also kinda fishy that paint police doesn't play anymore. seriously, for those that play in the srk, did u guys even see this? serious question
i'll be honest with you. when the league first started, i didn't really understand anything because it was my first time in a fantasy league. when i look at the trades now, it does seem hella broken. gasol for walker and knight. stojakovic, pierce, and okur for duncan, mobley, and lenard. the latter seems especially broken now, but at the beginning of the season NOBODY complained about it but u homie. sorry maybe if i were a competent player in the beginning, i wouldve protested that too. even the impact players said the trade was legit so he hasnt changed since.

and for paint police, yeah it sucks he stopped playing in the league. but the only inactive people in the league are him and aznhadoken i think..

[donaldducktm]

i'll be honest with you. when the league first started, i didn't really understand anything because it was my first time in a fantasy league. when i look at the trades now, it does seem hella broken. gasol for walker and knight. stojakovic, pierce, and okur for duncan, mobley, and lenard. the latter seems especially broken now, but at the beginning of the season NOBODY complained about it but u homie. sorry maybe if i were a competent player in the beginning, i wouldve protested that too. even the impact players said the trade was legit so he hasnt changed since.

and for paint police, yeah it sucks he stopped playing in the league. but the only inactive people in the league are him and aznhadoken i think..
thank you. thank you for understanding. if only everybody saw what i saw. i'm sort of suprised, yet i kinda noticed that many people in the league are inexperienced i think. it was so obvious in my opinion. i even talked to Paint the Police about it and he said he didn't think of it that way and after the trade, he changed his mind, but was too late. i remember that Stojakovic is consistent,, Pierce is obvious ALMOST triple double machine, and Okur who was TEARING THINGS UP in the league at that time (and still is) for Duncan who is in his decline (they even emphasized that before the draft), Mobley who is the #4 (#3 at best) scoring option, and Lenard....LENARD WHO? HE JUST WON THE 3 POINT CONTEST AND WHAT ELSE??? OH YEAH, HE'S A WALKING INJURY.

The Gasol trade was somewhat legit, but damn Walker is on the BENCH and heat's team is too crowded to let him have his glory and brevin knight was decent because he's got the steals, FT, and etc. it's so obvious.

i'm still steamed because that fantasy's worst and manipulative commish was taking advantage of his status to go through the trade without the league's notice. how sad was that?

[Morphiend]

yeah people can have traders remorse, and hindsight is 20/20. it's completely retarded how you're going to bring up stats at the end of the season to justify your arguments. if we knew what player's stats would be at the end of the season what the fuck is the point of playing at all? at the time duncan was beasting shooting 80% ft, getting 2.5 blocks a game and was obviously the best player in the trade. he's still averaging 19/11/2 blocks a game. mobley has AVERAGED 16/4.5/3 per game so he's more than an adequate trade piece. as for lenard yeah he was a gamble, he was coming off an injury but there wasn't anything indicating that he would get hurt again. in fact the game after the trade went through he almost posted a triple double and paint police even posted about it so he was more than happy with getting lenard at the time. no one but you said a damn thing at the time and even after you bitched i offered to retool the trade just to get you to quit your whining and again no one said a damn thing. what more could i have possibly done at that point? no one said anything so the league went on. u stated numerous times that you were done talking about after you failed to get anyone to speak out and now a couple of weeks before the playoffs, when you're in last, and im in first you're going to bring that shit up again?????? fucking LAME.


pierce is just pierce, peja had been inconsistent up till after his trade and okur is one of the biggest surprises of the season. there was no way i thought he could keep his numbers up with ak and boozer returning but he has. am i happy about it? of course i am but there's no way im going to feel guilty about it.

as ive been saying all along, the trade was made in good faith. both of us were just doing what we thought would help our teams at the time.


as for the gasol trade YOU YOURSELF posted right after that you had no problem with it so why even bother bringing it up at the end of the season? just because walker has dropped off doesnt mean shit. even without walker involved knight is an assist/steal machine. people trade rebounds for assists all the fucking time. who's to say one's necessarily better than the other. people do what's right for THEIR team, not yours. so throw in walker who at the time was doing great and you make up 12 pts, 5 boards and even get 1.7 treys.

you on the other hand are trying to trade your 2 best players when you're 17 games out of the last playoff spot with zero chance of making the playoffs. even after multiple managers came out and called your bullshit you STILL insist on the trade being legit. :confused: it was completely obvious to me and the others that you were trying to stack someone else's team.

and please tell me how the trade could have been that broken if paint police is only 3.5 games back of the playoffs when he hasn't been rotating his team for months? i can argue that if he was still playing he'd easily have been a lock for the playoffs so where's the brokenness if after our trade BOTH of us are in the playoffs? wouldn't that have meant that the trade also worked out for HIM??

also if you talked to paint police after the trade then you KNOW he was real and that he and i weren't fixing the league. so WHY EVEN SUGGEST that it's "fishy" that he isn't playing anymore? you knew i had nothing to do with him not playing anymore so the only reason you threw that out there was for it to be a pathetic attempt to undermine me and the league. i also don't buy your "argument" about the league managers being fantasy nba rookies when the first thing i did after making the league was reserve spots for managers who played last year, most of whom accepted.

[The Invincible Swordsman]

Is Gilbert Arenas a point guard? Because if he is..... he is the most non-passing point guard I have EVER seen in my life. In that game vs Philly last week, I think he passed the ball like 6 times all game. And it was the same when they played Chicago not too long ago. He's a shooting guard right? Because if he is......

Then there is no well in hell he should be on the Olympic team over Allen Iverson. And I'm still trying to figure out why Luke Ridnour is gonna be on the team. (Did Colangelo get an order from David Stern to put a white guy out there or something?)


This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:

No love for Yao from the media lately. He's been going off. Maybe they're waiting for him to do for 3 weeks straight or something. It's not like he's been the most consistent player at putting up those kinds of numbers. He has been known to put up a 11, 7, and 2 game after a good game.

[PBalla]

yep hes a point guard, yeah he doesnt average many assists but the man loves to score, or at least try to

hey guys we doing a march madness yahoo group? How many would be interested? THere another thread for it?

[donaldducktm]

yeah people can have traders remorse, and hindsight is 20/20. it's completely retarded how you're going to bring up stats at the end of the season to justify your arguments. if we knew what player's stats would be at the end of the season what the fuck is the point of playing at all? at the time duncan was beasting shooting 80% ft, getting 2.5 blocks a game and was obviously the best player in the trade. he's still averaging 19/11/2 blocks a game. mobley has AVERAGED 16/4.5/3 per game so he's more than an adequate trade piece. as for lenard yeah he was a gamble, he was coming off an injury but there wasn't anything indicating that he would get hurt again. in fact the game after the trade went through he almost posted a triple double and paint police even posted about it so he was more than happy with getting lenard at the time. no one but you said a damn thing at the time and even after you bitched i offered to retool the trade just to get you to quit your whining and again no one said a damn thing. what more could i have possibly done at that point? no one said anything so the league went on. u stated numerous times that you were done talking about after you failed to get anyone to speak out and now a couple of weeks before the playoffs, when you're in last, and im in first you're going to bring that shit up again?????? fucking LAME.


pierce is just pierce, peja had been inconsistent up till after his trade and okur is one of the biggest surprises of the season. there was no way i thought he could keep his numbers up with ak and boozer returning but he has. am i happy about it? of course i am but there's no way im going to feel guilty about it.

as ive been saying all along, the trade was made in good faith. both of us were just doing what we thought would help our teams at the time.


as for the gasol trade YOU YOURSELF posted right after that you had no problem with it so why even bother bringing it up at the end of the season? just because walker has dropped off doesnt mean shit. even without walker involved knight is an assist/steal machine. people trade rebounds for assists all the fucking time. who's to say one's necessarily better than the other. people do what's right for THEIR team, not yours. so throw in walker who at the time was doing great and you make up 12 pts, 5 boards and even get 1.7 treys.

you on the other hand are trying to trade your 2 best players when you're 17 games out of the last playoff spot with zero chance of making the playoffs. even after multiple managers came out and called your bullshit you STILL insist on the trade being legit. :confused: it was completely obvious to me and the others that you were trying to stack someone else's team.

and please tell me how the trade could have been that broken if paint police is only 3.5 games back of the playoffs when he hasn't been rotating his team for months? i can argue that if he was still playing he'd easily have been a lock for the playoffs so where's the brokenness if after our trade BOTH of us are in the playoffs? wouldn't that have meant that the trade also worked out for HIM??

also if you talked to paint police after the trade then you KNOW he was real and that he and i weren't fixing the league. so WHY EVEN SUGGEST that it's "fishy" that he isn't playing anymore? you knew i had nothing to do with him not playing anymore so the only reason you threw that out there was for it to be a pathetic attempt to undermine me and the league. i also don't buy your "argument" about the league managers being fantasy nba rookies when the first thing i did after making the league was reserve spots for managers who played last year, most of whom accepted.
u pretty much said exactly what i said, however u just made it sound like it's legit. come on, ur taking advantage of the people on the SRK. why was i the only one who thought this was a bullcrap trade? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE SAW IT. ur bringing up numbers that says the exact same thing i said. Duncan in his decline, mobley a 4th/3rd option and lenard a useless piece. why why did anyone else in the league not hear about this? why did u get to decide whether MY TRADE go through or not? that's right, because of your gay stupid reasonings ("I WON'T LET THIS TRADE HAPPEN BECAUSE I HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST YOU"). GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE. and the gasol trade? stop contradicting urself, i even SAID IT WAS SOMEWHAT LEGIT .

[Cool-Breeze]

u pretty much said exactly what i said, however u just made it sound like it's legit. come on, ur taking advantage of the people on the SRK. why was i the only one who thought this was a bullcrap trade? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE SAW IT. ur bringing up numbers that says the exact same thing i said. Duncan in his decline, mobley a 4th/3rd option and lenard a useless piece. why why did anyone else in the league not hear about this? why did u get to decide whether MY TRADE go through or not? that's right, because of your gay stupid reasonings ("I WON'T LET THIS TRADE HAPPEN BECAUSE I HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST YOU"). GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE. and the gasol trade? stop contradicting urself, i even SAID IT WAS SOMEWHAT LEGIT .

Hold on now you all are forgetting about myself and league pass, we both told everyone that trade was bull shit from jump, hell DHC Knows i was the one who told him to keep Okur from jump and go after Peja, but since then he has offered me nothing but useless trades.
he is jam packed at the forward position know one can add from there, also in a few weeks Donald duck COULD have made the playoffs if he went up in rebounding because his scoring is already nice if he trades Gilbert for rebounds and half the points etc etc, I have done the same with my team and look at my position.
Also Paint Police was full of shit and right after that trade vanished???:confused:
I believe while DHC was concerned about other people making friendships and trade-ing he exempted himself (Wow New word Exempted lol)
Was paint police a real Person???

[The D Man]

Man that second trade shouldn't have went through either. Bullshit.

Now watch Tyson Chandler have a 20 board game and Josh Smith get like 10 blocks.

[jae hoon]

Can we not turn this into the fantasy basketball thread.

Yao finally got some type of mention last night for like 30 seconds. Now that he is playing up to his potential, no one wants to talk about him. I remember acouple days ago it was mentioned on one of the ESPN shows that Yao is averaging 21 and 10 for the season and one of them said so what. I was like uh if your big man is putting up 21 and 10 he did his job.

[donaldducktm]

Hold on now you all are forgetting about myself and league pass, we both told everyone that trade was bull shit from jump, hell DHC Knows i was the one who told him to keep Okur from jump and go after Peja, but since then he has offered me nothing but useless trades.
he is jam packed at the forward position know one can add from there, also in a few weeks Donald duck COULD have made the playoffs if he went up in rebounding because his scoring is already nice if he trades Gilbert for rebounds and half the points etc etc, I have done the same with my team and look at my position.
Also Paint Police was full of shit and right after that trade vanished???:confused:
I believe while DHC was concerned about other people making friendships and trade-ing he exempted himself (Wow New word Exempted lol)
Was paint police a real Person???
well that makes 3 of us....DHC, u hear that? THREE OF US that SAID YOUR TRADE WAS BS. DHC is trying to save himself. serious statement

[Hoonyo]

Can we not turn this into the fantasy basketball thread.

Yao finally got some type of mention last night for like 30 seconds. Now that he is playing up to his potential, no one wants to talk about him. I remember acouple days ago it was mentioned on one of the ESPN shows that Yao is averaging 21 and 10 for the season and one of them said so what. I was like uh if your big man is putting up 21 and 10 he did his job.
Yeah. Twenty seconds of highlights, and about five seconds from Ernie to mention Yao's been playing well, and the last five seconds coming from Kenny Smith. He was like "This is the Yao we have been expecting." Done. That's it. /cry

Here's hoping Yao will make a brief appearnce on "The A List" during Shootaround.

Edit: Nevermind. ESPN isn't broadcasting any games tonight.

[TGC]

Well It's official I think I have the worst luck when it comes to basketball.

Out of the 3 games i Went last season, and the game I went to yesterday, what do they all have in common? They lost them.

And what's worst about yesterday? I paid for the luxury club deal to watch a badass game, and guess what? we didn't have Nash, or the secondary PG Barbosa.

Anyways, the head coach of Suns is now the GM as well. Gonna be interesting.

[HuStLeMaN17]

Well It's official I think I have the worst luck when it comes to basketball.

Out of the 3 games i Went last season, and the game I went to yesterday, what do they all have in common? They lost them.

And what's worst about yesterday? I paid for the luxury club deal to watch a badass game, and guess what? we didn't have Nash, or the secondary PG Barbosa.

Anyways, the head coach of Suns is now the GM as well. Gonna be interesting.

Wow talk bout bad luck!

[Hoonyo]

The Rockets's playoff hopes are on Yao's shoulders now because T-Mac is out for 5 weeks!

I was thinking about trying to ship McGrady out of my fantasy team, but I couldn't do it because he's my favorite player :sad:

[ViciousSLASH]

Can we not turn this into the fantasy basketball thread.

Yao finally got some type of mention last night for like 30 seconds. Now that he is playing up to his potential, no one wants to talk about him. I remember acouple days ago it was mentioned on one of the ESPN shows that Yao is averaging 21 and 10 for the season and one of them said so what. I was like uh if your big man is putting up 21 and 10 he did his job.

Yeah, get your fantasy bullshit outta here. SRK can never have a fantasy league because ya'll are stupid mother fuckers. Why do you think I ruined the league a year or so ago ? You guys are just fucking dumb.

Anyway, Yao is finally doing what he was supposed to do from the start, beast on fools. Yao should be averaging 30 and 15 EASY, you can't be THAT fucking big with his skill set and not run all over fools.

I think that's why people are saying "So?" Jae, the game should be so easy for him, but he's been such a pussy for so long. He's needs to start dunking all over the place and getting in bitches faces. I think everyone in the sports world has been waiting for him to do this since he was drafted. Get your mystic chinese respect crap outta here, score a buncha points, take over the damn game, and win a title.

[donaldducktm]

wow the Los Angeles Lakers (not the LA Kobes) won against the Spurs! i'm so glad that the Lakers are using Lamar more frequently and trusting the role players in help. after the all star break, they have been rather impressive =)

[Hoonyo]

Yao got some props from Steven A. Smith. Marc Stein gave him a spot on his Weekend Dime too.

[jae hoon]

wow the Los Angeles Lakers (not the LA Kobes) won against the Spurs! i'm so glad that the Lakers are using Lamar more frequently and trusting the role players in help. after the all star break, they have been rather impressive =)

LA has been trying to use Lamar all year. It hasnt been LA taking Lamar out of the games, it has been Lamar himself. If you watch enough Lakers games you actually understand why Kobe chunks up 40 shots a night at times. For some reason I have a feeling the TMac as we know it is done. The type of back problems he has just dont go away. Especially not traveling as much as NBA players do.

[BshidoHEAT]

Well It's official I think I have the worst luck when it comes to basketball.

Out of the 3 games i Went last season, and the game I went to yesterday, what do they all have in common? They lost them.

And what's worst about yesterday? I paid for the luxury club deal to watch a badass game, and guess what? we didn't have Nash, or the secondary PG Barbosa.

Anyways, the head coach of Suns is now the GM as well. Gonna be interesting.

Well, watcha gotta do is get tickets to Magic games there. :rofl:

[NeREMIXED]

wow the Los Angeles Lakers (not the LA Kobes) won against the Spurs! i'm so glad that the Lakers are using Lamar more frequently and trusting the role players in help. after the all star break, they have been rather impressive =)

Ey they won against Detroit also (I was there :lovin:.) and IMO they should've won against the Spurs on Monday, Finley/Ginobili/Van Exel just got HOT behind the arc.

[DanielLarusso]

For some reason I have a feeling the TMac as we know it is done.

That's a scary thought. Don't know if I'd agree with that just yet though, but it may be right. For T-Mac to have to take five weeks off is basically him taking the rest of the season off. The Rockets will not make the playoffs without T-Mac no matter how good Yao is playing, and T-Mac has to know that. So that "five weeks" becomes the season since after that time is over the regular season will be ending too.

[BshidoHEAT]

Looking back on that trade, and what we have now with Darko and Dwight. I think we got the best of that deal.

But it just depends on how well Darko really turns out to be.

On a related note.

Resident Idiot Charley Rosen would rather choose Kwame Bust than Dark Magic.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5403198

I haven't read the whole thing yet but come on....

[PC2000]

Wow! Jeff Foster just dropped 19pts 12 rebounds on us AT THE HALF!

Raptors should just leave 4 players on the other side and forget defense. They score 2 we will keep shooting 3s and hope for the win.


RAPTORS WIN!!!!

[Night]

Looking back on that trade, and what we have now with Darko and Dwight. I think we got the best of that deal.

But it just depends on how well Darko really turns out to be.


Darko is getting career highs... in MINUTES! w00t!

[PBalla]

random question: so how long has kobe been with nike? he started off with adidas, right? Not a big deal, I was just wondering how the tranistion went and why.

[TGC]

Is the NBA not exiciting for you guys anymore or what?

How about this Vid Clip to cheer you up:
http://gamefaqs.servebeer.com/AZ/suns_at_seattle_alleyoop.asf

[donaldducktm]

meh, lakers and cavs game was awesome, despite LA losing. everytime i see a laker game, i see and hear a noisy and big crowd. i guess everybody wants to see the Lakers lose.... =(

[PBalla]

yeah it was great game, why did the lakers just let that murray guy drive to the hoop every 10 seconds?

[Warblade49]

Good come back by Cleveland. They really needed that game to stop their recent slide. Kobe was taking a beating at the end of that game though.

[NeREMIXED]

OMG Kobe should've went to the line SOOOO MANY TIMES.

And I'm tired of Phil drawing up last shot plays for him KNOWING there's going to be 3 people on him......

[Hoonyo]

so amare is back

guy is so cocky but thats what makes him so dope

suns gonna win it all

[KillerKai]

The KB of last night wasn't Kobe... it was fuckin KWAME. The guy finally played like a number one draft pick should. I hope this isn't a one time thing.

[spideyman]

jermaine is back too. i hope the pacers can make some noise in the playoffs.

[PBalla]

Amare Is Back And Hes Owning

[TGC]

Amare is back and what a good first game he had...

20 Points, 9 Rebounds, and 20 Minutes.

Welcome Back Amare...Go Get Em

[ViciousSLASH]

Amare is back and what a good first game he had...

20 Points, 9 Rebounds, and 20 Minutes.

Welcome Back Amare...Go Get Em

Don't get too excited, Chris Webber did the same thing. He came back beasted and then his knee started acting gay again.

I'm all for him coming back and beasting everyone for the good of the game. He's part of the lil group of players making basketball interesting again, CP3, King James, Flash, Melo ( poor Melo no nickname for his Alex English playing ass yet ) and Manchild Amare, and he doesn't need to be fucking up his knee.

[Warblade49]

Shawn Kemp eyes comeback, says he's slimmer

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2380701

I dont think we will be seeing the old version of the Rain Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgtZJkeRSok&search=shawn%20kemp

[Hoonyo]

Was Shawn Kemp's game similar to Amare Stoudemire's? When I was just a kid, I only paid attention to MJ and the Bulls.

[spideyman]

is anyone else sick of melo? or is it just me? i'd rather have ak-47 on my team. melo is good but i think he's over rated.

[Cletus Kasady]

Few people have the offensive repetoire or knack for making clutch shots that Carmelo does. Plus, it wasn't until that Spurs series last year that I realized just how BIG he is for a small forward. The Nuggets would be an championship contender right now if they had a good three point shooter, and that's thanks in large part to Carmelo.

[Warblade49]

In case anyone missed it or didn't know he was still in the league....

Waived by 76ers, Mashburn announces retirement

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2382824

[Carpet Lint]

Jamal Mashburn's still alive? Wow. Did Penny retire after he got waived, or is he planning to come back?

_______________

Say what you want about Melo, but he's seen more playoffs than everyone in that 2003 class other than Wade. ...and Darko, I guess.

According to 82games.com, Melo's a stone cold killer in game winning situations.
http://www.82games.com/random12.htm

Of course it's difficult to define exactly what a game winning situation is and they're obviously all different because you have to force a quick shot or get a three sometimes...but 10 of 16! That's ridiculous.

Haha, Kobe at 7-28. Makes sense if you think about it.

How many Wade and Carmelo game winners can you remember?

Now how many clutch FREE THROWS Lebron's missed can you remember?

Ho hum.

Melo is awesome. It took me a year and a half, but I've finally figured it out.

___________

Check this out. Darko's Orlando stats.

16 games, 6.9 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 2.63 BLOCKS

What the hell!?! Darko's suddenly become a crazy SHOT BLOCKING MACHINE.

Honestly - speak up - who saw this coming? Anybody? I mean, anything else I would have expected...but since when was Darko supposed to be a shot blocker?

[ViciousSLASH]

___________

Check this out. Darko's Orlando stats.

16 games, 6.9 points, 4.6 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 2.63 BLOCKS

What the hell!?! Darko's suddenly become a crazy SHOT BLOCKING MACHINE.

Honestly - speak up - who saw this coming? Anybody? I mean, anything else I would have expected...but since when was Darko supposed to be a shot blocker?

One sports magazine said it was because no one knows anything about him and everyone is driving right at him because they think he's a punk. Meanwhile he's busy throwing shit back in peoples faces.

[DaFlipMastaXV]

Shawn kemp wanting to make the hall of fame?!

Wow.

[Warpticon]

Hey, Kemp was right on target for the hall before he started giving out illegitimate children and taking back fat in return.

[Cool-Breeze]

Yo Anyone interested in Fantasy Baseball league please join

The League of Corrupted Minds (ID# 286445)
Password: Rampage (If you need it)

14 Teams allwoed so I hope to see you all there.

[PBalla]

whoa gerald wallace

[ckrazy]

Kemp was the shit in 95-96 season him and the glove lead the Sonics to the finals vs. the bulls the 72-10 bulls so they had no chance but still took it to 6 games, any who I didn't know what happen with Jamal Mashburn he just like Penny they were the stars of the league for like a couple years then they just like suddenly lost their skills like in space jam xD

[Carpet Lint]

whoa gerald wallace
41 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks.

I was calling this guy a poor man's Marion, but he's getting closer and closer. He doesn't have Marion's freakish rebounding ability though - but no one does.

When you're getting more than 12 boards a night from your SF...that's just not fair.

The Bobcats are looking good. Not this year, but as a franchise, they're looking good.

They have a great core of Felton, Okafor, May, Brezec, and Wallace that will only get better. I think Felton is going to be just as good as Chris Paul down the road.

Most of them are injured this year, but that works out for them. This year is completely meaningless to them, the second year of a franchise will still pull fans regardless of how bad they're doing, and all they're doing is putting themselves in a position to get a high pick.

They got nothing committed in terms of salary 'cept for those rookie contracts, and in a year or two when they're ready to compete, they can splurge on top tier free agents.

And they only look better when you compare them with the Knicks, which only have 19 wins compared to Charlotte's 20.

_________________

So I was at the Raptors/Heat game yesterday and it was awesome.

Completely meaningless game to both clubs, and Bosh and Shaq were out, and we lost, but it's always good just to go out.

Wade completely killed us in the fourth when they suddenly woke up, realized they were playing the Raptors, and just raped us. I can imagine the conversation on the bench late in the fourth.

PR: Oh and yeah - you guys feel like winning this game?
Wade: ...yeah, I guess. Okay, let me take care of it.

The guy hit like eight clutch free throws, and during it all the crowd was booing him, trying to rattle him or whatever. And he hit all eight. And during it all my friends and I were all like...

"DON'T WASTE YOUR BREATH HE CAN'T MISS!!!"
"ICE WATER!!! ICE WATER THROUGH HIS VEINS!!!"
"THIS AIN'T LEBRON WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE!!!"

So awesome. Wade is a stone cold killer.

It's weird, you look at at Wade and Carmelo - straight up assassins, shooting game winners right in your face, winning games by themselves.

And then you have Lebron, who's missing clutch FREE THROWS, and something like 4 of his 6 highest scoring games have come in Cav losses. (Not last night when he dropped 47 to beat the Mavs though.)

And early in the season, even Bosh had a tendacy to be prone to ball handling turnovers late in the game, and there was a stretch of ugly losses when he took some bad shot selections that irked me. But he's getting better lately.

___________


Oh, and if the Raptors resign Mike James, I'm going to kill someone.

I love him, and he can't be replaced with just another point guard, and it'd be awesome to keep him on since we've already seen that he can succeed here, he likes it here, and he gets along with everybody...but we cannot resign him.

It's a contract year for one thing. And while Mike James has been getting better each year, and he's not the Dampier/Jerome James type in that he won't cruise after getting a big contract...I still don't feel good about contract year players.

And he thinks he's the number one option more than he should, which leads to chucking, but on a team like this, I can't blame him. But we need someone good to bump him back down, and I don't think he'll be happy with that since he can do that somewhere else.

Some GM is going to offer him the mid-level exception. For sure. (PLEASE GOD, MAKE IT ISIAH) And so if the Raptors want to resign him, they're going to need to go over the mid-level which is like $6 million a year. And I love him, but Mike James is not worth $6 a year for 4-5 years.

If we can get him for like $3-4 million for 4 years, that'd be awesome...but it's not happening.

LET 'EM WALK BRYAN, LET 'EM WALK

[Legendary Gokou]

Carmelo Anthony is very good. Ever since the All Star " snub" he's been playing at a very high level. Doesn't choke when the game is on the line either. Denver is looking as good as they are during this time last season when they were pretty hot.

If their team is healthy they may be able to get past the second round.

[spideyman]

wallace is real good. he gets a lot of steals and blocks. another sf i think that has a good all around game is AK-47. had another triple double a few games back. 10 blocks. if only he can stay healthy for a whole year.

[Hoonyo]

so wallace = poor man's ak-47?

and wallace is only 23 years old. i swear i thought he was like 27 or something.

[DA GAME]

DA GAME doesn't follow the NBA much but this story caught his attention last night.Kevin Garrnett is seeking a trade from Minnesota(can't blame him) but the owner doesn't want to.DG's question is this(calling out Invincible Swordsman,ViciousSlash,Cool-Breeze anybody)who do you think he will be a better fit with?

1.Lakers
2.Dallas(they don't need to trade anybody)
3.Houston
4.Indiana

[Mario Lemieux!]

Raptors =P

[Carpet Lint]

KG to Chicago. If he's being moved, it's going to be to Chicago.

They have all the pieces. They have a lot of young talents to trade out, they have a big contract to balance the trade out and a replacement PF in Chandler, and most importantly, they got picks - very high picks.

Think about it - what the hell is Chicago going to do with a #1 pick in this year's draft? They don't need it, and there's no huge concensus #1 pick like a Lebron or Oden that can provide immediate help for them.

Also, Chicago - unlike Dallas, Houston, Indiana, and the Lakers - have an actual reason to trade for Garnett. I can't imagine any of those teams breaking up to get KG.

Lakers don't have the pieces to trade. And having both KG and Kobe is committing salary cap suicide. They'll have to fill out the rest of the roster with NBDL contracts.

Why would Indy trade for KG if they have JO already?

Dallas - it's a top five, top three team in the league. They've finally figured out that you have to keep together a solid core for a long while like the Spurs and the Pistons for a team to work well. They sure as hell won't trade for KG.

And Houston's going to have to trade either T-Mac or Yao for KG, since you can't have all three of those salaries on the same team, and there's no way that would happen.

I haven't checked the salaries, and Chicago maybe have to throw in some miscellaneous guys to make it work, but a trade of...Gordon + Chandler + the Knicks' 2006 and 2007 first rounders for KG doesn't sound that crazy.

But then Kevin McHale is retarded, so you never know.

I think there were some New Jersey ideas back when the KG trade ideas started at the beginning of the year, with them trading one of Carter or Jefferson (probably Jefferson + Nenad + picks/filler) but I think Chicago's the best fit.

And didn't Garnett grow up in Chicago? So if there's one place he'd want to go other than staying in 'Sota, then that'd be it.

There's too many reasons he should go to Chicago.

[Def1n1tely]

anyone catch the heat cavs game.. i wish i saw it i jus saw the highlights from sportscenter...

lebron and wade were both going at it... lebron had like a triple double with 47p, 10+ ast, 10+ reb, and wade had like 44p, 6ast, 8 reb... cant remember the exact stats

but yeah that was pretty crazy... they were just going at each other on every possesion... and cavs ended up winning

[Hoonyo]

anyone catch the heat cavs game.. i wish i saw it i jus saw the highlights from sportscenter...

lebron and wade were both going at it... lebron had like a triple double with 47p, 10+ ast, 10+ reb, and wade had like 44p, 6ast, 8 reb... cant remember the exact stats

but yeah that was pretty crazy... they were just going at each other on every possesion... and cavs ended up winning
wade had 9 assists and almost a triple double but whatever...

[The D Man]

I wish KG would go to Chi-Town.

Near the trade deadline there were rumors that there was a last minute deal going down, but it fell through.

He just might end up on the Lakes though, so whatever.

[ckrazy]

anyone catch the heat cavs game.. i wish i saw it i jus saw the highlights from sportscenter...

lebron and wade were both going at it... lebron had like a triple double with 47p, 10+ ast, 10+ reb, and wade had like 44p, 6ast, 8 reb... cant remember the exact stats

but yeah that was pretty crazy... they were just going at each other on every possesion... and cavs ended up winning

leborn got like 47 12 10
wade got like 44 9 8

im not 100% sure but it either that or really close

[Cool-Breeze]

DA GAME doesn't follow the NBA much but this story caught his attention last night.Kevin Garrnett is seeking a trade from Minnesota(can't blame him) but the owner doesn't want to.DG's question is this(calling out Invincible Swordsman,ViciousSlash,Cool-Breeze anybody)who do you think he will be a better fit with?

1.Lakers
2.Dallas(they don't need to trade anybody)
3.Houston
4.Indiana

Man ummm this post will require much thought.
But to be honest, none of the teams listed up above would or could recieve him WITHOUT hurting there team in the process.

Houston just had a blockbuster trade not to long ago and giving up the likes of Stromile Swift and Juwan Howard may sound keen but not likely.

Lakers are stuck in hell and turmoil and riding the backs of Kobe bryant no one to trade near the BIG TICKETS SKill level.

Dallas is where they need to be, just a few more roll players and they WILL defeat the Spurs, the current playoff set up is hurting them badly, besides there the ONLY RUNNING TEAM in the NBA who has some defense.

Indiana has no chance as well, there with Jermaine and giving up Stepehn jackson and Jamal Tinsley is not an option.

I really do feel if Mchale and the other front office guys are ready to START OVER they will trade him for a shit load of jobbers but to any of these teams NO or better yet Indiana can stay on the list.
Chicago New York places like that stand better chances, maybe even UTAH:wgrin:

[cheese_master]

Some one please explain to me why if Shaq bitches about the refs, the NBA "looks into the comments" abd doesn't do shit. While if Rasheed Wallace or anyone else does... the NBA can't wait to fine their asses? Yea, we don't show favoritism.

[shinobi00]

I've seen about 6 laker games since the trade dealine has been up, and where is the guy who begged not to be traded. man they are definetly trading him next year, unless he has some miraculous playoff run. I seriously doubt it's kobes fault either odom just dosen't show up to play on a night to night basis. Him and a couple other lakers for KG would be nice.

Jamal Mashburn's still alive? Wow. Did Penny retire after he got waived, or is he planning to come back?

There was a story on TNT about penny trying to make a comeback for next season.

Was Shawn Kemp's game similar to Amare Stoudemire's? When I was just a kid, I only paid attention to MJ and the Bulls.
I think so, he had a good inside game and a decent outside game. He had a deep 2-point shot(at the top of the key) where he'd shoot the ball from the 3 point line. I never really figured out why he didn't take 1 step back and make it a 3. I mostly remember his dunks though, and how fat he was at that all star game game on HBO during the strike season.

Some one please explain to me why if Shaq bitches about the refs, the NBA "looks into the comments" abd doesn't do shit. While if Rasheed Wallace or anyone else does... the NBA can't wait to fine their asses? Yea, we don't show favoritism.

Thats how it's always been in the nba, where have you been. Shaq is a respected and beloved from fans and fellow players, and rasheed wallace is seen as a crybaby(which is true).

[Cool-Breeze]

I've seen about 6 laker games since the trade dealine has been up, and where is the guy who begged not to be traded. man they are definetly trading him next year, unless he has some miraculous playoff run. I seriously doubt it's kobes fault either odom just dosen't show up to play on a night to night basis. Him and a couple other lakers for KG would be nice.



There was a story on TNT about penny trying to make a comeback for next season.


I think so, he had a good inside game and a decent outside game. He had a deep 2-point shot(at the top of the key) where he'd shoot the ball from the 3 point line. I never really figured out why he didn't take 1 step back and make it a 3. I mostly remember his dunks though, and how fat he was at that all star game game on HBO during the strike season.



Thats how it's always been in the nba, where have you been. Shaq is a respected and beloved from fans and fellow players, and rasheed wallace is seen as a crybaby(which is true).

Rasheed is not a cry baby, he (like me) feels that since he is a 20 and 10 player he deserves just as many calls as Shaq,Kobe,Flash and others.
The man plays with absolute heart and hella good defense,His days in Portland are great example.

[TGC]

It's the freakin NBA, you're gonna get calls that don't go your way, and rasheed complains about it the most, and likes to make smartass comments about them, while there are other players who just walk away.

There really is no point in complaining, if the call didn't go your way, don't complain...if you do, your only gonna get a T, and they still won't change the call, and now your at risk if you get another one, you get rejected, especially early in the game.

[shinobi00]

It's the freakin NBA, you're gonna get calls that don't go your way, and rasheed complains about it the most, and likes to make smartass comments about them, while there are other players who just walk away.

There really is no point in complaining, if the call didn't go your way, don't complain...if you do, your only gonna get a T, and they still won't change the call, and now your at risk if you get another one, you get rejected, especially early in the game.


Exactly, be a man about it and just walk away. Arguing with the officials to get a call changed does absolutely nothing(most of the time), but have a negative effect on your team. I'm not going to say I don't find Rasheed entertaining though, especially when he was in portland.

[spideyman]

i'm from milwaukee and there's talks that the bucks would like to get KG. trade bobby simmons, tj ford, and Jamaal Magloire for kg and a bench warmer to even it out. or tj, jamaal, and a draft pick. i would like to see it. redd, kg, bogut, simmons and mo williams for a starting 5 isn't too bad. charlie bell was a steal for the bucks this year. what do u guys think?

[TGC]

Kobe sometimes scares me: That 4 pt play that put it to OT...wow sir...But they still lost...Hopefully tomorrow's game @phx will be as entertaining, but i still want suns to come out on top, especially me gonna be there

Anyways about Rasheed: I admit he's a talented player, an awesome player, definetly earned his ring...he just gets on my nerves with his attitude. I really hated dirk last year too, but this year he has calmed a bit, and is playing great bball. i dunno about winning a championship though, he's got some ways for that.

[donaldducktm]

Kobe sometimes scares me: That 4 pt play that put it to OT...wow sir...But they still lost...Hopefully tomorrow's game @phx will be as entertaining, but i still want suns to come out on top, especially me gonna be there

Anyways about Rasheed: I admit he's a talented player, an awesome player, definetly earned his ring...he just gets on my nerves with his attitude. I really hated dirk last year too, but this year he has calmed a bit, and is playing great bball. i dunno about winning a championship though, he's got some ways for that.
care to take some pics and share??? :rock:

[TGC]

pics of what?

[hihi]

I'm assuming either a pic of the four point play Kobe made or of Rasheed smiling.

[shinobi00]

Any pics of kobes face after the game last night where he scores 50 and still ends up losing?

[TGC]

I'm assuming either a pic of the four point play Kobe made or of Rasheed smiling.

WHA??? Nigga didn't make no 4 pt play last night.

Anyways, it was a free game, so i wasn't expecting like good seats or anything, i always end up in upper levels unless i buy them, which doesn't happen too often, and my camera is only like 8x zoom, so you can't even see the hottness of the dancers, but trust me, IRL, these girls are just smokin.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010159.jpg
The Matrix on the main screen:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010161.jpg
It's Over Kobe:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010162.jpg
Pretty much my view of the game:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010158.jpg

[donaldducktm]

WHA??? Nigga didn't make no 4 pt play last night.

Anyways, it was a free game, so i wasn't expecting like good seats or anything, i always end up in upper levels unless i buy them, which doesn't happen too often, and my camera is only like 8x zoom, so you can't even see the hottness of the dancers, but trust me, IRL, these girls are just smokin.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010159.jpg
The Matrix on the main screen:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010161.jpg
It's Over Kobe:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010162.jpg
Pretty much my view of the game:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010158.jpg
those are the pics of what i was talking about. NICE!:tup:

[LucasBishop]

Nets winning streak ends at 14.

LeBron straight willed the Cavs to the victory. Very impressive late in the game when he slashed up the floor, got fouled by Jefferson and Kidd but still mscled his way in the lane and got a 3-point play the hard way.

Nets were due to drop one, I think they're gonna be a very hard out in the playoffs.

[shinobi00]

WHA??? Nigga didn't make no 4 pt play last night.

Anyways, it was a free game, so i wasn't expecting like good seats or anything, i always end up in upper levels unless i buy them, which doesn't happen too often, and my camera is only like 8x zoom, so you can't even see the hottness of the dancers, but trust me, IRL, these girls are just smokin.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010159.jpg
The Matrix on the main screen:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010161.jpg
It's Over Kobe:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010162.jpg
Pretty much my view of the game:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/tgcallen/P1010158.jpg

Damn I guess you werent close enough to see the kobe :sad: after the game.

[donaldducktm]

Damn I guess you werent close enough to see the kobe :sad: after the game.
hahaah :rock:

anyway, quick question.

Since the lakers broke the tiebreaker between the Sacramento Kings (3-1), why are the lakers in the 8th spot and Sac in the 7th spot? I obviously don't want the Lakers to play the Spurs during the first round. What determines who gets what spots if they end up in a tie at the 7th and 8th?

[Hoonyo]

^i think it's because the kings have the better division record

[Cletus Kasady]

Some one please explain to me why if Shaq bitches about the refs, the NBA "looks into the comments" abd doesn't do shit. While if Rasheed Wallace or anyone else does... the NBA can't wait to fine their asses? Yea, we don't show favoritism.

Rasheed is getting payback from refs the same way Bonds is getting payback from the media. Refs don't like being repeatedly shown up by players, and Rasheed certainly has a history of that(I think I recall reading somewhere he got T'd up during the McDonald's Game when he played :lol:), so it's no wonder he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

And Shaq was fined IIRC.

donald: Lakers and Kings are tied 2-2. The Kings have a 2.5 game lead in divisional records and that's why they're 7th right now.

[Def1n1tely]

Since the lakers broke the tiebreaker between the Sacramento Kings (3-1), why are the lakers in the 8th spot and Sac in the 7th spot? I obviously don't want the Lakers to play the Spurs during the first round. What determines who gets what spots if they end up in a tie at the 7th and 8th?

yeah it aint tied =[

sac won twice at home and la won twice here...

remember when la first played at sac this season and they were up by like 5 w/ half a minute left and lamar TOs the ball and Brad Miller hit a 3...

[GeoG2]

Three things.

1) Spurs are not winning it all this year.

2) Bobcats are retarded for cutting Kareem.

3) Darko is the MVP.

Peace.