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Def1n1tely
05-04-2006, 12:38 AM
I remember in a Laker game this season when Bell hit a 3 against the lakers in front of the Lakers bench, and then turned around to Phil Jackson and taunted him. Haha.... he taunted a fuckin coach. Who does that? Good shit Bell, you're my new fave player.
There's no suns hate in this thread. How can anyone hate the suns. They're the most entertaining team in the league. And they're hella fun to watch. And compared to San Antonio and Detroit, they're the underdogs. Suns are like my 2nd fave team, and Nash is one my fave players. If it was any other team besides the Lakers I'd root for the suns. Game tommorow should be sick.
EDIT: IMO I hate flopping. Everyone can flop in the league if they wanted to. It's not a fuckin skill you need to learn. To me I've always thought thats the pussy way out. You can't guard your man so what do you do, act like a bitch and fall down from the slightest touch. And I especially hate it more when floppers get credited as good defenders.. Not discrediting Bell's defense, but that guy flops way too much. Even when Fisher and Horry flopped when they were in the Lakers, I still hated that shit. The league should really do something bout this rule. It's like running away or turtle in fighting games. Its effective sometimes but that shit still looks ugly
KillerKai
05-04-2006, 01:30 AM
it's one thing to flop. it's another thing to go after someone like Bell did to Kobe and use your flop as the reason, claiming that you have a hard time moving your jaw when the only thing that touched your jaw was a gust of wind.
flopping as a whole is retarded. It's an art, I'll admit. And it does take skill. Just ask Vlade Divac. But it's seriously a pussy's way out.
But on the other hand, serious question. Do you guys think they should include flopping into future NBA video games? Every player can have their own flop rating, which makes them more likely to draw a foul. So like when you're controlling someone with a high flop rating like Manu Flopnobili and having him drive the ball up to mid court, you can push the flop button and he'll be very likely to get a call even though nobody is around him. On the other hand, someone with a low flop rating, like say Shaq, can flop all he wants but the refs will tend to ignore him.
flopping is dumb i admit, but that's what makes it so hard to tell, how well people do it.
Bell is able to time the flop so it looks like kobe really pushes hard with the elbow. Whether he does get hit with an elbow or not, because kobe always acts against every call, same with every team, they're always like WTF unless it's straight up obvious, and the player will raise his hand.
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 04:39 AM
I guess we can call their future matchups The Fake vs. The Rape
The Invincible Swordsman
05-04-2006, 08:44 AM
Flopping is gay. I want them to give a technical foul for people who flop. I don't care how much skill it takes, it's gay and not realistic. Wtching a Robert Hory flail around like he got sniped in the chest by a shotgun blast when he wasn't even touched is bullshit. I don't want it to be a no-call, I want it to be a T so I don't have to see that gay shit.
This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:
The Suns MUST win game 6. I need to see a Raja vs Bauer matchup in Gae 7.
Lantis
05-04-2006, 08:49 AM
They should do it like soccer. They give players yellow cards (a warning call before they get ejected) if they flop.
TrunksSS3
05-04-2006, 08:53 AM
MJ wore # 23
James wears #23
must be MJ reincarnation.... must be.....
dont say that!
PS: and i know if kobe would wear #23 everyone would bash on him.
jae hoon
05-04-2006, 10:08 AM
it's one thing to flop. it's another thing to go after someone like Bell did to Kobe and use your flop as the reason, claiming that you have a hard time moving your jaw when the only thing that touched your jaw was a gust of wind.
Best post so far :rofl:
To be honest I expected alot of people in here to side with Bell. Kinda like The Cold Pizza Crew did. Good thing I was wrong with that assumption, you could see more then half of those so called elbows were flops and over a 1/4 of the others were shit like Kobe making space after a rebound, or Kobe extending his elbow to pass the fucking ball and watching Bell flop. I guess the force was so great from Kobe passing the ball, he managed to do a hadoken so powerful it knocked everyone within a 360 degree radious on their ass.
Really this all stems from when LA played Philly in the finals about 4 or 5 years back. Philly tried to put Bell on Kobe to stop him and when Kobe was asked about it he said, I have bigger things to worry about then Raja Bell.
Robust
05-04-2006, 10:12 AM
Lebron...
James....
M...
V...
P...
DA GAME
05-04-2006, 10:38 AM
DA GAME has to say that the Cavs/Wiz series is the best thus far.James is playing like he has experience in the playoffs.So in 5 games,he has point totals of 32,26,38,41 & 45 with an average of 36.2 ppg in the playoffs.When the Cavs play the Pistons,DG knows the Pistons aren't going to let 'Bron score that much.So what Micheal Redd got lucky & scored 40 on them because the defense decided to fall asleep in Gm 3,but knowing Flip he's got something in store for Lebron
Ephidel
05-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Bonzi Wells is beasting in this series against the Spurs - I love the stats he's dishing out - talk about putting in the effort...
ckrazy
05-04-2006, 04:08 PM
dont say that!
PS: and i know if kobe would wear #23 everyone would bash on him.
sorry but seriously that mofo only 21 years old.... unless some major blow up or something he destine to be in the top 50 of all time hell top 10....
opticallyinviz
05-04-2006, 04:16 PM
if not the best ever.
he's the best in the league right now, and the league is as good as it ever was.
Robust
05-04-2006, 05:15 PM
sorry but seriously that mofo only 21 years old.... unless some major blow up or something he destine to be in the top 50 of all time hell top 10....
top 10? LOL
You kidding me? At the rate he is going, he's destined to be top 3 at least...
He's challenging jordan/wilt... That is his only competition in the records.
Kobe is up there too, but at age 21, kobe only avged, like 1pt a game. lol
Warblade49
05-04-2006, 05:36 PM
This first round as been so good has anyone even noticed the pacers and nets series?
jae hoon
05-04-2006, 05:41 PM
if not the best ever.
he's the best in the league right now, and the league is as good as it ever was.
Kobe is still the best in the league, Lebron might be in a year or two though.
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 06:04 PM
This first round as been so good has anyone even noticed the pacers and nets series?
Is it me, or is that the only series that's on NBA TV more often than not? That's the main reason I don't care.
Damn, I KNEW there was another piece of the puzzle that was missing from this "angry" playoff year: THE COACHES!
Scott Stiles was about to lynch a nigga :rofl:
jae hoon
05-04-2006, 06:08 PM
The worst foul by far this postseason is Reggie Evans exam of Kaman.
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 06:33 PM
The worst foul by far this postseason is Reggie Evans exam of Kaman.
If I was him, I would just fucking retire and move to places like Maine or the Dakotas or VANCOUVER forever because he's going to get "How do ya like DEEZ NUGGETS?!" diatribes on every road game he goes to.
Bulls are starting to come alive now.
I did like how the Heat did two ridiculous shots back-to-back with Shaq's RC Hurricane Layup to Jason Williams' half-court 3 Points No Jitsu 4 U. And in case you were clueless, that last shot didn't count :lol:
EDIT: OH. FUCK. THE. REFS.
Johnny "Red" Kerr was pissed (I'm watching Comcast in IL, not TNT)
opticallyinviz
05-04-2006, 07:07 PM
Kobe is still the best in the league, Lebron might be in a year or two though.
I think Lebron is a step ahead of everyone. great defense just comes with hard work, but the innate talent he has is retarded. He's the King, that's it. Gg.
And he's still just learning, I'd call him the best right now and he's only going to get better. I need to start going to more cav games.
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-04-2006, 07:10 PM
Best NBA Playoffs I've seen in awhile, all of this.
If you think about it, with a few exceptions, many series could go either way..
ArcadeFire
05-04-2006, 07:29 PM
What's so good about Lebron anyway?
Robust
05-04-2006, 07:31 PM
This first round as been so good has anyone even noticed the pacers and nets series?
WEll, I've been paying attention as much as possible, but like 80% of the games have been on nba tv, which is kind of gay...
jae hoon
05-04-2006, 07:34 PM
WEll, I've been paying attention as much as possible, but like 80% of the games have been on nba tv, which is kind of gay...
The NBA did that intentially, its just a way to try to get more money out of your pocket by making you pay a 100 dollars for an extra program.
Robust
05-04-2006, 07:36 PM
The NBA did that intentially, its just a way to try to get more money out of your pocket by making you pay a 100 dollars for an extra program.
Really? I would of never known...
[/sarcasm]
edit: huggles <3
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 08:11 PM
Kobe Fuckin' Bryant...
He Bauer'd that 3 pointer
Black Mamba doing his thing
ArcadeFire
05-04-2006, 08:15 PM
Lakers came back sick...
Stupid TNT announcers..."And this time they hear Nash call for time out!"
The D Man
05-04-2006, 08:15 PM
NBA TV comes with the cable in my area. I thought it was like that all over but I guess not.
Oh yeah.................Shaq with 30-20-5 bitches.
AlphaDragoon02
05-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Oh yeah...Kobe doesn't elbow people. Barbosa's lip just magically cut itself open... :rolleyes:
opticallyinviz
05-04-2006, 09:46 PM
Must've been all the air when he pretended to get elbowed actually cut him open.
How ironic.
merdoc
05-04-2006, 09:49 PM
kobe time, he has to go kobe mode in the 4th to win
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 10:18 PM
Deja Vu time?!?!
The Deadpool
05-04-2006, 10:18 PM
damn this is a good game! exciting
I think I aged 5 years from this series.
Someone kill Tim Thomas. I'll give you a dollar if you do.
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-04-2006, 10:23 PM
Haha, I didn't catch that "This time they hear him" comment; would've preferred it back then though...
And yeah, Tim Thomas probably just gave me hope, only to have Kobe snatch it away in OT...
opticallyinviz
05-04-2006, 10:24 PM
It's peanut butter jelly time.
Aka Go suns
Aka the best that ever did it.
aka your favorite teams favorite team
9 point hole with a minute left.
My heart can't take much more. :sweat:
merdoc
05-04-2006, 10:38 PM
fuck...god dammit..
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 10:39 PM
50 mudderfuggin' points and 10e^283 three's.
Shao Kahn: OUTSTANDING!
Game mudderfuggin' 7!!!!!
00:00:03...00:00:02...00:00:01...00:00:00
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-04-2006, 10:40 PM
Wtf...Kobe would NOT let that DIE!
Game 7 baby!
Yes I"m Believied, And I"m Still Believing.
The D Man
05-04-2006, 10:42 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Karma is a bitch ain't it?
Robust
05-04-2006, 10:43 PM
LAKERS = FUCKING NUBBYCAKES.
hahahaahhhaah
yesssssssssssssss
KarateKing
05-04-2006, 10:45 PM
ok game 7 saturday its OVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lakers had their lil fame but its not meant to be theyll lose BIG TIME same im predicting blowout 125-78 suns
ps im a laker fan
merdoc
05-04-2006, 10:49 PM
smush i mean brick parker shouldnt play...it was 4 on 5 really...damn..go lakers, i still believe.
Well..look at this way: If the Lakers lose, we still have another LA team in the playoffs.
ArcadeFire
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
I'm a Laker fan but this is NOT looking good for them...they will get DESTROYED.
Fucking Tim Thomas...
Fucking Diaw...
opticallyinviz
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
merdoc is on point
smush is ass, he needs to hit the showers.
KarateKing
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
smush played like shit since game 2 even though he wuz a hero in game 4 u can tell he doesnt have confidence
merdoc
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Well..look at this way: If the Lakers lose, we still have another LA team in the playoffs.
I was really lookin foward to the hallway series though..:sweat:
Robust
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
kobe is decent....He's no lebron, but he's okay...
Autocrat1
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Smush ha ha...rhymes with mush...
Game 7.
Saturday.
8PM EST.
Lakers.
Suns.
The Return Of A Rape
vs.
The Return Of A Fake.
Only On TNT.
KarateKing
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
is it me or absolutely NOONE wuz guarding diaw i swear ever time he shot the fuckin ball he wuz WIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open! the lakers arent playing any damn defense all they have to do is GUARD THE 3 POINTERS AND STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP NASH TAKING IT TO THE FUCKING HOOOOP UNTOUCHED
I was really lookin foward to the hallway series though..:sweat:
It isn't over.
ArcadeFire
05-04-2006, 10:57 PM
Smush sucked ASS today...jeesh
He was non-exsistant
If the lakers lose game sev7en, I'll definitely lose all respect for the lakers forever. They gave them how many 3 point attempts in the final 4th qtr seconds. For God's sake!! Someone foul with the clock ticking. They were up by 3. Sun's would make both freethrows, laker ball.... foul kobe another +2, they're still up by 3....then play defensive for another 5 secs. Then you'll force them to play under so much pressure, no shot would go up. gahhhhh !!!
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Zulu speaks the truth. And THAT LA team could very well rip the Suns apart.
Question now is: What impact will Raja Bell have?
merdoc
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
If the lakers lose game sev7en, I'll definitely lose all respect for the lakers forever. They gave them how many 3 point attempts in the final 4th qtr seconds. For God's sake!! Someone foul with the clock ticking. They were up by 3. Sun's would make both freethrows, laker ball.... foul kobe another +2, they're still up by 3....then play defensive for another 5 secs. Then you'll force them to play under so much pressure, no shot would go up. gahhhhh !!!
so fucking true, sound like something steve kerr or doug collins would say..
AlphaDragoon02
05-04-2006, 11:21 PM
Hey Lakers...we'll see you on Saturday, bitches. And be sure to pack lightly, this ain't gonna take long. :tup:
TIM FUCKIN' THOMAS!
EDIT: And by the way...Steve Nash is the all but officially confirmed MVP. Just in case anybody missed it.
Viscant
05-04-2006, 11:34 PM
This one hurt an awful lot. If the Lakers want some consolation, they played the Suns game, they turned it over 20 times, the whole team was in foul trouble on the first half...and they still could have won.
But realistically...ouch. What a stomach punch game.
--Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com
Viscant
05-04-2006, 11:34 PM
This one hurt an awful lot. If the Lakers want some consolation, they played the Suns game, they turned it over 20 times, the whole team was in foul trouble on the first half...and they still could have won.
But realistically...ouch. What a stomach punch game.
--Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com
jchensor
05-04-2006, 11:42 PM
I was afraid this was gonna happen. Suns looked like they picked up too much steam in Game 4, which Lakers won on some clutch plays. But I knew they had the momentum. It's like Stu Lantz always says: Mr. Momentum has switched jerseys.
But it's not entirely that Suns are blazing now. The Lakers are inexperienced and young. They are making mistakes they shouldn't be making and Kobe senses this, and so it's cyclical. Lakers can't remain in their half court offense, so Kobe tries to keep them close. Which ignites fast breaks which pulls the lead farther out which discourages the Lakers, etc. etc. They can keep up only if they keep up.
It'll be nice to see if the Ref finally let people play on Saturday, though. The Lakers were seriously on the receiving end of some really bad calls. Offensive fouls, in particular, put the fear in you on offense... you are afraid to try your moves anymore.
I'm hoping to see if the Lakers can continue what they did in the second half of the game, which was much cleaner. The refs stopped calling any offensive fouls. So it'll be interesting to see if Raja can draw anything else on Kobe. And you know the refs are gonna swallow their whistles a bit more on Game 7, so it's gonna be an out and out pummel-fest.
I never for once believed the Suns were out of this. As I said in my previous post, they only need to win one game. And they won it. Games 5 and 7 were required to be stolen by the Lakers. And now that Phoenix has found their offensive strategy to exploit (the switch) and take advantage of for two games, let's see if the Lakers can counter that.
It's gonna take a lot of poise for Phil to keep his troops confident. And it's gonna take a lot of strength for Kobe to try and not take over the game too much. It'll be an interesting game, one that the Suns have the definite advantage on. I hope it isn't a blowout, regardless of who wins. Who wants to see such a great series end in a blowout?
- James
The only team that can play the suns game is..The suns obviously, and IMO, seattle. However, seattle isn't consistent like suns are, and they really only have...Ray Allen, and that's all.
Hoonyo
05-05-2006, 12:13 AM
honestly who didn't see this coming? i knew kobe was gonna score a million points and lose it for the lakers. he wanted it to go to game 7. he wants to drive the dagger in every suns player and suns fans hearts. don't think he doesn't take the drama with him and bell personal? he wants to murder the suns with raja bell guarding him in game 7. i was definitely not surprised with the outcome of tonight. kobe played teamball for 5 games then decided to play kobe ball for just one to guarantee a loss.
suns still win it on saturday though.
KillerKai
05-05-2006, 12:20 AM
This was seriously the hardest game to watch in the series. Right now, everything depends on Smush to get his groove in game 7. I honestly don't feel like watching it right now.
Autocrat1
05-05-2006, 12:30 AM
Kobe saying "I don't want him suspended" before he RC those comments the next day meant that Kobe wants Raja to FEEL what it's like to flop FOR REAL in Game 7!
Suns/Clippers. I don't think there's any other series that can cause more ratings evaporation than that.
Galactic
05-05-2006, 12:41 AM
Who do you think had the better game tonight:
Steve Nash:
32 Points on 9-14 shooting, 13 assists. Penetrated and dished all night, got fouled a TON and went 13-for-13 from the free throw line.
Or
Kobe Bryant:
50 Points on 20-35 shooting, 7 turnovers. Sat back and took jumpers most of the night, only went to the line 6 times. His missed jump shots ignited the Sun's fast break.
Also take a look at these numbers:
Kwame Brown:
17 points on 8-9 shooting, most of his points in the first quarter.
Lamar Odom:
22 points on 8-14 shooting, most of HIS points in the first half as well.
Kwame played 40 minutes and Odom played 51. This is bullshit and it has to change if the Lakers want to advance. The major weakness of the Suns is their lack of interior defense. Odom and Brown were owning them in the paint early on, but then Kobe decided to start jacking up shots and stopped distributing.
Thus, 10 points from Kwame and Odom COMBINED in the 4th quarter and OT. That is how to lose a game. That's 8 points from your STARTING BIG MEN in 17 minutes. Not because they couldn't hit shots, but because they couldn't touch the ball.
Kobe lost this game for the Lakers. I knew this was going to happen. Kobe was pissed about the "Clothesline From Bell" and wanted to explode, and he did. But he seemed to forget that the Lakers are a much better team when it's not just Kobe jacking up shots. Kobe Bryant cannot outscore the entire Suns team, even if he scores 81 again. If Kobe scores 81 the next game, the Suns will win by 20. They are not the Raptors.
Kobe needs to go back to his original game plan and let his team pound the ball inside against the Sun's weak interior defense. Jump shots just HELP the Sun's running game. Play to the opponent's WEAKNESSES, not their strengths.
And BTW, go Nets.
^_-;
Quantum Delta
05-05-2006, 12:48 AM
Phoenix have found their rhythm back, so I'm afraid it could be over for the Lakers. I mean, 100+ in the past two games and having Raja Bell back for game 7 could get in the head of Kobe.
donaldducktm
05-05-2006, 01:24 AM
this Saturday...we'll see who the winners are.
It's not getting into kobe's head, it's the other young players that might have mental breakdowns. I'm not depending on it though.
I'm believing
That suns will play like they did today, possibly better. I'm not relying on lakers to take a break. Suns just need to exploit whatever they can, and win this last one.
GO SUNS! I'M A BELIEVER
Def1n1tely
05-05-2006, 02:32 AM
honestly who didn't see this coming? i knew kobe was gonna score a million points and lose it for the lakers. he wanted it to go to game 7. he wants to drive the dagger in every suns player and suns fans hearts. don't think he doesn't take the drama with him and bell personal? he wants to murder the suns with raja bell guarding him in game 7. i was definitely not surprised with the outcome of tonight. kobe played teamball for 5 games then decided to play kobe ball for just one to guarantee a loss.
haha omg i hope your kiddin.. you should be a fuckin nba analyst... good shit
Best quote ever: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12637956/
[“This is the seventh game,” Jackson said. “We pretty much know what we have to do. Now it comes down to execution.”
Exactly. The Lakers are the ones scheduled for execution.]
Also, to affirm that Nash is MVP, in the last play that Phoenix had in regulation, even his misses converted to points. Can't top that.
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-05-2006, 11:30 AM
Quick bit of information:
Only seven NBA teams have come back from a 3-1 deficit to win a best-of-seven series. Five went on to win won the championship. ... The Lakers have never lost a series when leading 3-1, going 27-0. ... The Suns have never won a playoff series when trailing 3-1. ... Jackson's previous 14 teams -- nine in Chicago and five in Los Angeles -- have all reached the second round of the playoffs, with nine winning championships. ... Jackson-coached teams are 44-0 when leading in a playoff series.
From the Yahoo post game analysis. Interesting no?
donaldducktm
05-05-2006, 11:58 AM
Quick bit of information:
Only seven NBA teams have come back from a 3-1 deficit to win a best-of-seven series. Five went on to win won the championship. ... The Lakers have never lost a series when leading 3-1, going 27-0. ... The Suns have never won a playoff series when trailing 3-1. ... Jackson's previous 14 teams -- nine in Chicago and five in Los Angeles -- have all reached the second round of the playoffs, with nine winning championships. ... Jackson-coached teams are 44-0 when leading in a playoff series.
From the Yahoo post game analysis. Interesting no?
a little bit. Phil Jackson had never lost the first game of round 1 of his playoff career as a coach...look what happened in game 1.
Ephidel
05-05-2006, 12:08 PM
I told everybody it was going to go seven games and I was right - Tim Thomas is just too good goddamnit...and yet the lakers let him get good looks at 3's, rebounding, and other shit. Bottom line is that the lakers should of won game 6 but they failed to do so....so SOMEBODY is going to go fishing on saturday...
Kings are fishing tonight, but I think the Wizards might send it to a game 7.
I've been saying this everywhere:
I am in no way shape or form saying my suns have won this.
I just believe they will.
I BELIEVE!!!
The Lakers were a better team when Kobe didn't score 50 points. Odd.
Ephidel
05-05-2006, 12:44 PM
Your not going to outscore the suns - the lakers just need to stick with the game plan and pray that their bench comes alive during certain times. Pound the ball inside and get to the foul line - it's rather simple because the suns don't have any size. Run them off the 3-point line and make them get 2's and miss contested shots.
lonewolf6465
05-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Cavs to close the series out tonight, but I know in my heart they're coming home to win it in game seven.
Warblade49
05-05-2006, 01:04 PM
Funny stuff from the Sports Guy
Kevin Garnett. And not just because the 2006 playoffs took place without him. Check out this quote after the Clips series from Carmelo Anthony of all people: "I don't want to be like Kevin Garnett and take eight years to get out of the first round." Ouch.
Living in Hollywood. Which gives me a chance to hear stories like this: During the timeout right before Kobe's game-tying layup in Game 4, the Mamba waited until Jackson was done talking, then went over to Smush Parker, grabbed him by the shoulders in full view of everyone sitting near the bench, then started poking him in the chest while repeatedly screaming, "You steal that ball! You steal that ball! You steal that [bleeping] ball!" Apparently Smush looked terrified, like a 14-year-old minding his own business then was suddenly being ordered to rob a liquor store by the leader of the Crips. But Smush stole the damned ball. And if there was video footage of this moment in the huddle, I think I would pay three grand for it.
The Clippers. As reader Sly Cooley points out: "Is it possible that the greatest moment in Clippers history is tanking that Memphis game and getting the sixth seed? Suddenly they are lined up to cruise into the Western Conference finals (as you predicted). As a diehard Clips fan for 20 years, it is nice to see that knowing how to lose finally paid off."
Amen, Sly Cooley. Amen.
Galactic
05-05-2006, 04:41 PM
"Antawn Jamison. How can you give LeBron baseline on the final shot? How? How? No, really, how? How does this happen? How? Imagine losing an overtime playoff game because one of your teammates gave baseline to one of the best three players in the league who had 43 points at the time? Would you ever speak to him again? And how does LeBron get wide open on that play? I know Eddie Jordan doesn't need an NBA paycheck anymore after his successful appearances in "Crash" and "Hustle and Flow," but couldn't he at least pretend to be outraged that his team can't guard anyone?"
ROFL.
^_-;
Hoonyo
05-05-2006, 05:42 PM
Funny stuff from the Sports Guy
The Clippers. As reader Sly Cooley points out: "Is it possible that the greatest moment in Clippers history is tanking that Memphis game and getting the sixth seed? Suddenly they are lined up to cruise into the Western Conference finals (as you predicted). As a diehard Clips fan for 20 years, it is nice to see that knowing how to lose finally paid off."
Amen, Sly Cooley. Amen.ROFL. Can you post a link to where you found these? I couldn't find it myself.
Legendary Gokou
05-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Man. I feel bad for Arenas. =/
ckrazy
05-05-2006, 08:27 PM
Man. I feel bad for Arenas. =/
i would feel bad for him if he hit both free throws then someone on cavs hit a 3 +foul and get a 4 point play then beat wizards but but the fact is that didn't happen and Arenas blew it he choked... and then wizards D sucked ass again and they lose...
lonewolf6465
05-05-2006, 08:30 PM
DAMON "THE GREATEST SHOOTER ON THE PLANET" MOTHER FUCKING JONES FOR THE WIN
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
Bring on the Pistons :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
DanielLarusso
05-05-2006, 09:04 PM
Damn the Lakers are in the midst of one of the all time playoff choke jobs in history. Crazy game last night with Tim Thomas putting the dagger into Staples Center. If the Lakes don't win this one, they have only themselves to blame.
Looking like they may have to forget about KG too, cause if Minnesota can pull off that rumoured Iverson trade KG won't be going anywhere.
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-05-2006, 09:35 PM
^Explain.
KillerKai
05-05-2006, 10:02 PM
KOBE AND PHIL ARE MAGIC
I believe!!!! >_<
Autocrat1
05-05-2006, 10:34 PM
Nobody but Texas and California representing the playoffs in the West after tonight?!
Smells like Tekken. :mad:
Cletus Kasady
05-05-2006, 10:38 PM
Umm...Phoenix can still win.
BTW, they haven't showed the past four Spurs games up North here; anybody know why Nazr Mohammed is suddenly not playing?
donaldducktm
05-05-2006, 10:46 PM
Lakers are underdogs in game 7.... my bet is that they'll take it, but i can't be overconfident. I'm prayin' tonight =)
Robust
05-06-2006, 12:17 AM
Umm...Phoenix can still win.
BTW, they haven't showed the past four Spurs games up North here; anybody know why Nazr Mohammed is suddenly not playing?
Pop has decided to start with big shot bob/duncan at the BEGINNNIG of games now. aka GG WESTERN CONFERENCE.
Horry is fucking incredible, I don't know why they don't talk about him being in teh hall of fame. I think it's a gimmie.
Also, fuck the lakers, fuck the lakers, and fuck the lakers...
<3
totalScrubPower
05-06-2006, 12:18 AM
wizard cavs..
The winner: the refs. Some "biased" calls help determine the game.
Show em boys who dominates....its not King James..its the refs.
Anubis
05-06-2006, 12:27 AM
Looks like Damon Jones has been watching some footage of Robert Horry's greatest shots.
Awesome game for the Cavaliers, but the Pistons will be the real challenge. For them to have finally gotten to the playoffs, since LeBron James came aboard & to get to the 2nd round is quite a remarkable feat.
Cletus Kasady
05-06-2006, 08:25 AM
My only concern is that Horry usually comes off the bench and gives them a lift. Plus, the only center they're playing now is Nesterovic, and I had always thought Mohammed was considered to be better than him. They seem to be going smaller overall (they've put out four-guard crunch time lineups, which surprises me)
Granted, Popovich has a good track record in terms of this stuff, so I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Wonder how they're going to play things against Dallas.
Galactic
05-06-2006, 08:51 AM
I predict Spurs in 6 hard fought games.
Dallas can run and all that, but Dallas is still weak in the middle. This series is all about Tim Duncan dominating the low post and Tony Parker's ability to penetrate into the paint for layups or dishes. Terry isn't fast enough to stay in front of Parker (no one is, actually) and no one on the Mavs can match up with Duncan. I predict whoever wins this series will at LEAST go to the finals, and probably lose to Detroit.
^_-;
DaliPicard
05-06-2006, 09:23 AM
I like James as a player and as a person since he is so mature at his age, but the Pistons are going to chew that team alive.
PC2000
05-06-2006, 06:04 PM
I like James as a player and as a person since he is so mature at his age, but the Pistons are going to chew that team alive.
Like Orange Chicken baby
Kobe is out of this world with those crazy shots. lol
NeREMIXED
05-06-2006, 06:29 PM
playing like the L.A. Kobe's again :(.
No one making shots......
Hoonyo
05-06-2006, 06:58 PM
you know i can't blame kobe for playing the way he is right now. fucking kwame brown can't make point-blank shots.
na na na na...
NeREMIXED
05-06-2006, 07:02 PM
he has to put up 81 again for them to win....
maybe more.
go kobe.....
:wasted:
donaldducktm
05-06-2006, 07:03 PM
he has to put up 81 again for them to win....
maybe more.
go kobe.....
:wasted:
LA as a team are doing so horrible. i'm rooting for kobe to get over 81 tonight....
AlphaDragoon02
05-06-2006, 07:17 PM
Would this be a bad time to start the"na na na, na..." chant...? :rofl:
Seriously, if the Lakers don't get their shit together RIGHT NOW, not only will they lose the game, they'll get DESTROYED in the process.
opticallyinviz
05-06-2006, 07:18 PM
Yeah
fuck kobe
good games lakers
So I just woke up from a nap, I turn on TNT and the Suns are up 100. Unless God smites the Suns down, and the Lakers (namely Kobe) go on a massive run, the Suns are advancing...only to face another LA team.
Way to suck Lakers. How often will we have a chance for a LA/LA match-up in the NBA playoffs?
Autocrat1
05-06-2006, 07:32 PM
There goes the Hallway Series.
So..what about the Clippers and Suns?
Mark Beast
05-06-2006, 07:33 PM
well....
*sigh*
fuck it.
*turns off the tv*
Dataika
05-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Wow, I was disappointed with the Lakers.
I'm just trying to remember how young the Lakers team is and how good they did to get into this position to begin with.
As long as there are no nuts grabbed in the next match-up (Clips vs Suns), it should be fun to watch.
subzero44
05-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Kobe is a scrub, I heard him say in an interview the other day that he could score whenever he wanted. what's he doing then, he's way better, it's kind of disappointment and I'm not even a lakers fan.
AlphaDragoon02
05-06-2006, 07:48 PM
HOLY SHIT, EVEN PAT BURKE'S SCORING ON THEM...:rofl:
And the look Raja's giving Kobe...priceless.
Autocrat1
05-06-2006, 07:49 PM
120+ points AGAIN.
GGPO L.A. Rapers.
jae hoon
05-06-2006, 08:29 PM
You have to tip your hat to the Suns for coming back from a 3-1 hole. That is why I mentioned the series is still isnt over, I thought something like this might happen. Game 6 was really the pivotal game and you could see the Lakers lack of experience in it. IMO I though Kwame Brown falling for the pump fake and leaving Thomas wide open was a huge mistake. That late in the game you absolutely can not fall for a pump fake. Make your opponent make a tough shot with a hand in his face over trying to be the hero and block a shot.
Still..the Clippers are in it. So it isn't a total loss.
Geese Pants
05-06-2006, 08:53 PM
WTF...........L.A. better get started on cloning LA Kobe's.
Now the Heat's gotta get peaced out....
HaiDuongRiceMan
05-06-2006, 09:14 PM
Good thing Kwame can't catch a freakin ball...
And Pat Burke hitting 30-foot 3 = ultimate fuck you to the Lakers.
Clippers will be a much tougher matchup.
TrunksSS3
05-06-2006, 09:20 PM
watching Kwame play makes my eyes HURT!!
PBalla
05-06-2006, 10:38 PM
trunks never goes SS3.
blankspaces
05-06-2006, 10:48 PM
yea wtf?
KarateKing
05-06-2006, 10:57 PM
well i called it i said it would be a blow out i said it would be 125-78 suns i wuz sorta off. kwame brown is a bust i cant catch a fuckin ball falling for pump fakes and master of the swiss cheese defense and the rest of them mush parker fluke walton sucked as well i dont blame the way kobe played tonite he did his job in the first half it just that the supporting cast choked on a hot burnin suns dick kobe is still the man i dont wanna hear shit that he cost them the series or something stupid like that
AKUMA2000
05-06-2006, 11:12 PM
The suns dismissed the Lakers from the playoffs ??
Hmmm..... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
HitmanStriker
05-06-2006, 11:21 PM
Heh. With a healthy Amare Stoudemire and Kurt Thomas, Lakers probably would've won only one game or would've gotten swept by the Suns.
YES! THE SUNS ARE IN THE RECORD BOOK.
8th team to come back from 3-1.
1st Team to give Phil his first 1st Round Loss.
lonewolf6465
05-06-2006, 11:28 PM
Im so pissed the Cavs have to play the Pistons, we're going down in 6 .. maybe next year we can play shitty enough to get the 6 or 7 seed so we can avoid Detroit till the ECF lol
Why do you have to play shitty...why can't you play good, get like 2nd seed and not play them until ECF...3rd wouldn't be bad either.
4neqs
05-07-2006, 12:35 AM
So..what about the Clippers and Suns?
I dig. It's going to be a golden battle of point guards. "Big Balls" Cassell vs. Super Whitey Pistol Steve.
ArcadeFire
05-07-2006, 12:48 AM
Good thing I didn't watch. GGPO Lakers:sad: Go Clippers!
Carpet Lint
05-07-2006, 12:53 AM
Must be good to be a Suns fan.
Frankly, you guys aren't rubbing it in enough. Did you not notice all the shit-taking from the Lakers fans when they went up 3-1? RETURN FIRE!!!
For the record, I wasn't rooting against Phoenix. I was rooting for the Hallway Series. I don't know if they can beat the Clippers though.
For one, the Clippers actually have a front court. If fucking...Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom can beast all over Phoenix on the boards, then they don't even stand a chance against Brand and Kaman.
Though to be honest...a team with no front court, ONE rebounder (Marion), poor half-court sets, and no bench should not have gotten this far. The very nature of the team doesn't seem to make sense...yet they keep winning. So I wouldn't be surprised.
How big do you guys think the Clippers bandwagon is going to be now with all these Lakers fans now homeless? Already, just based on the fact that they've made the playoffs, it guarantees that the number of Clippers jerseys and hats are going to fucking skyrocket for the summer. It's going to be like when the Red Sox won it, and like every other douchebag was sporting a Sox hat...even in Toronto, and we're DIVISION RIVALS.
I like the Clippers this year, but I'm almost afraid that they're going to get to the point where it becomes meaningless to like them.
Why do you have to play shitty...why can't you play good, get like 2nd seed and not play them until ECF...3rd wouldn't be bad either.
The only way to get a top 3 seed in a conference is to win a division.
That's why Dallas is fourth seed even though they came in second. Dallas did better than either Phoenix or Denver - which are seeded two and three - but the Spurs were the one team that beat them, and so they got the division, and Dallas dropped to fourth.
Which is why the Clippers threw the last game of the season against the Grizzlies. It ended up Dallas (4) vs. Memphis (5) and LAC (6) vs. Denver (3). And it worked. Clippers beat the Nuggest, and the Grizzlies got swept by Dallas.
Cleveland already has fourth seed, which is the highest you can get without beating Detroit, since they're in the same division.
The seedings are stupid. I don't know why they went away from just having two divisions in each conference.
Carpet Lint
05-07-2006, 01:10 AM
For the record, I feel it's wrong to root for two teams in the same city. You have to choose ONE.
You're either a Lakers fan or you're a Clipper fan. You either love the Lakers and hate the Clippers or you love the Clippers and you hate the Lakers. There's no middle ground.
There's no one in New York that roots for both the Yankees AND the Mets. That's straight up ***. Likewise, it's either the Rangers or the Islanders. And I don't know jack about football, but you can't love both the Giants AND the Jets right?
Likewise, was there a single Cubs fan that was happy that the White Sox won last year?
You get ONE TEAM. That's it!
Now you can be a FAN of your home team, and you can LIKE other teams (ie. The Sports Guy loves the Celtics but he LIKES the Clippers).
BUT
You can't even LIKE the other team across the city. Not even IN STATE. (The Clippers and the Celtics are on opposite sides of the continent, so The Sports Guy is cleared.)
One or the other. Love one, hate the rest.
Rangers or Astros. A's or Angels. Spurs or Mavs or Rockets. Leafs or Sens or Habs.
You can't jump around liking both teams. That's bullshit. You're not a sports fan anymore then - you're a cheap whore.
And that applies to teams in your division too - you can't like teams in your division! Their success = your failure.
There shouldn't be a single Lakers fan here that likes the Clippers. And vice versa.
That's just not right in my book.
donaldducktm
05-07-2006, 01:11 AM
trunks never goes SS3.
WOW WTF???
gotta go and root the neighbor, Clippers. I wanna see Cavs vs heat.
jchensor
05-07-2006, 01:28 AM
Well, so much for hoping there would be no blow out, huh? Ouch.
It's so funny how the order of victories deterines the mood. I told myself before the series started, "If the Lakers can at least make it competitive, I'd be happy." And you know what? They did. But if it was 2-2, and the 3-3, and THEN the Lakers lost, I'd be happy. But to drop from 3-1 up to 4-3 down, that hurts. So rather than being happy the Lakers waaaay overacheived this season, all I can do is dream that we were one rebound away from the Hallway series.
As for the notion that the Suns shouldn't even be this far with the front court they have, it's pretty irrelevant with the style of play they use. No, lemme take that back: it's IMPERATIVE that they have the small sizes that they have. D'Antoni, give the man credit, but he's assembled a good team, and allowed then to play right. No one on the team feels guilty for chucking up a jump shot with no set plays. The result? No fear. Throw it up. I've never seen a team rely so much on jump shots and have them all go in. It's impressive that D'Antoni realizes this, and lets Diaw, Thomas, and Marion shoot 3's when common basketball knowledge tells you to have big men down low. I give props to D'Antoni on this. He's really very underrated as a coach, mainly because people assume Nash is the one running everything, and D'Antoni just does autopilot. But back to the original point: when they are confident, and playing lose, nothing can seem to prevent the Suns from throwing it in the basket. And when that works, it's Layup City.
Congrats, Suns fans. Your team turned it around impressively. They covered up their weaknesses and exploited their own advantages against the Lakers. I wish Game 7 was better, so at least I could have said the series was ALL really good. But that one little blip on the radar just takes it down that much.
It's gonna be a long summer for the Lakers, but if Turiaf and Bynum get more playing time and turn into some potential powers, we may have a chance (I mean, if Tony Parker and Diaw are such awesome French players, why can't Turiaf be the same? ^_^ 'Cause so far, those French guys like to torch the Lakers). And I'm gonna be curious if we can find another point guard. Smush is good, but man, his confidence is so easily shattered. He's especially gonna have a long summer, even though this really was his first playoffs ever.
Can't wait to see the next series. It's gonna be interesting. The Clippers big men are far superior to the Lakers, so that'll be interesting. But now that the Suns KNOW about this weakness, their experience may be able to mask the weakness more. And if they continue to play loose and the jump shots fall, I don't think there is much that the Clippers can do.
I do hope that the Clippers or the Mavs (I hope they beat San Antonio) can beat the Suns. As I said before, the only reason being that I wouldn't want Suns to win without Amare playing. I'd hate to have Amare get a ring for doing nothing.
It's gonna be interesting, no doubt. Like the commercial said, "And that was just Round 1." Bring on Round 2!! ^_^
- James
KillerKai
05-07-2006, 01:34 AM
If anyone here believes Kobe has as good of a supporting cast as Jordan or Lebron today, please speak now. T_T
The only way to get a top 3 seed in a conference is to win a division.
That's why Dallas is fourth seed even though they came in second. Dallas did better than either Phoenix or Denver - which are seeded two and three - but the Spurs were the one team that beat them, and so they got the division, and Dallas dropped to fourth.
Which is why the Clippers threw the last game of the season against the Grizzlies. It ended up Dallas (4) vs. Memphis (5) and LAC (6) vs. Denver (3). And it worked. Clippers beat the Nuggest, and the Grizzlies got swept by Dallas.
Cleveland already has fourth seed, which is the highest you can get without beating Detroit, since they're in the same division.
The seedings are stupid. I don't know why they went away from just having two divisions in each conference.
Yea i know about that, but ever since the SA and Dallas problem, i think they may change it next season. because it really is unfair for dallas and SA to have to face each other...IN A CONFERENCE semi...
I think they will change it for next season, so getting top 3 seeding won't be too hard, especially with the king.
ArcadeFire
05-07-2006, 02:24 AM
If anyone here believes Kobe has as good of a supporting cast as Jordan or Lebron today, please speak now. T_T
He doesn't. I really thought the Lakers where finally starting to come together as a team and Kobe would'nt have to do everything but it was not to be. Random offensive bursts from diffrent players doesn't work.
ssjbrydon
05-07-2006, 03:11 AM
If anyone here believes Kobe has as good of a supporting cast as Jordan or Lebron today, please speak now. T_T
he doesnt. lebron has a better overall team than both kobe and jordan had. too bad the pistons will sweep the "travelers". lakers need to pick up drew gooden and bobby jackson in the offseason. they can play one of those shitty centers they have with odom/gooden at foward and hope they dont drop every pass thrown to them OR play small ball with luke at the sf. smush parker reminds me of tony parker when he couldnt shoot a basketball a few years ago, but only worse. put his ass on the bench.
Galactic
05-07-2006, 03:57 AM
lol my friend has been screaming at me all series that Kobe is the real MVP. I asked him if MVP's usually score 1 point in the second half of game 7's and he shut the fuck up now.
Raja Bell in an interview after game: "We got bigger fish to fry now."
Damn that must feel good to say that. Kobe "knows that kid" now.
^_-;
Hoonyo
05-07-2006, 04:28 AM
If the Suns were healthy this year, they'd be so good it's ridiculous. Stoudemire/Marion/Diaw/Thomas/Thomas frontcourt with Nash/Bell/Barbosa/Jones/House backcourt is pretty f'ing good. BTW, Diaw is NOT a 3pt shooter. He's probably the only good, "inside" player they have. Stoudemire/Thomas aren't that great at all playing with their back to the basket. The matchup vs the Clips is going to be very tough. I think Brand will get the better of Marion like Odom did, and I don't think Diaw will be able to handle Kaman since he was barely able to handle Kwame fucking Brown. Still, I'm predicting a win by the Suns because Thomas might be back from his injury, and he'll be guarding Kaman with Diaw on Brand (better matchup than Marion vs Brand).
lol my friend has been screaming at me all series that Kobe is the real MVP. I asked him if MVP's usually score 1 point in the second half of game 7's and he shut the fuck up now.
Raja Bell in an interview after game: "We got bigger fish to fry now."
Damn that must feel good to say that. Kobe "knows that kid" now.
^_-;
LMAO. Did Raja really say that? I gotta find the interview somewhere on NBA.com.
spideyman
05-07-2006, 07:13 AM
this is a little old and i'm lazy and don't wanna go through all the pages to find. someone posted a link to a vid of steve nash pretty much making a full court pass for dunk. if anyone has the link can they repost it. thanks. after that blow out i just gotta see that sweet ass pass again.
DaliPicard
05-07-2006, 07:25 AM
Ok you experts, call today's 2nd round games and point differentials.
Mine are:
1. Dallas by 3
2. Pistons by 9
Dataika
05-07-2006, 07:59 AM
Carpet Lint,
I like the Lakers and the Rockets. Most Laker fans just haven't really cared/taken the Clippers seriously for so long that you can't help but root for them a little bit if you're in LA.
I personally don't care about the Clippers, but since the Lakers are out; why can't we root for someone else? Is that like an unwritten law?
PBalla
05-07-2006, 08:01 AM
ha sorry about that
well either way i think the winner of dallas vs san antonio will go on to the finals, its basically a WCF matchup right there. HOpefully round 2 is awesomer than round 1. yes i did just say that
Here's one where he says he's got bigger fish to fry now.
http://www.nba.com/suns/playoffs/bell_060506.html
There's a few different articles out there.
But those bell heads on sticks look freaky.
Carpet Lint
05-07-2006, 10:47 AM
Can't wait to see the next series. It's gonna be interesting. The Clippers big men are far superior to the Lakers, so that'll be interesting. But now that the Suns KNOW about this weakness, their experience may be able to mask the weakness more. And if they continue to play loose and the jump shots fall, I don't think there is much that the Clippers can do.
To be fair though, Im pretty sure the Suns have known about their front court weakness the whole season - it's not like they just figured out that Marion's the only guy that can rebound. The fact that they can't really address it is why it's a weakness.
The Suns are a jump shooting team - and if you're a jump shooting team and your shoots are falling, you can beat anyone. The Raptors are a jump shooting team too, and every so often there'll be a game when MoPete and James (and Rose and Donyell last year) couldn't miss, and those nights, we can beat anybody. (It's just that..."every so often" is much less often than a better jump shooting team.)
I haven't followed basketball for that long, so someone feel free to pull an example that kicks my ass on this, but a pure jump shooting team can't get that far in the playoffs. Because you have to expect nights when your shots just don't fall, and you have to have another way to score those nights. And in the first couple of games with the Lakers, the Suns were missing wide open shots they regularly hit, and they couldn't do anything else.
And a bad shooting night kills you more in a seven game playoff series than a 82 game regular season. Plus when you're playing the same team for possibly seven straight games in the playoffs, the defense steps up, and defenders stick closer to jumpshooters and they get more familiar with them over a couple straight games, and so you have to have alternate ways to score.
Thing is, the Suns weren't even a straight jump shooting team last year, when they had Amare. No one can stop Amare from going to the basket, and when you have an inside-outside game like that, along with a front court that can run the court, it's a bit different.
But this year they don't have an inside presence, and so the half court set has hurt. And so you can win if you can slow them down and make them run the half court set and exploit them inside like the Lakers did in the first couple of games.
But I definately agree that D'Antoni has played a huge part in setting up system that's so fun to play in. For sure, D'Antoni has set up the perfect system for this team, and Colangeo got the right team for the system. Nash is the most important cog, but equal credit should go to D'Antoni and Colangeo for setting up the perfect system that Nash can succeed in.
I think the Clippers will win this year though. But next year with Amare back, and Nash and Marion playing at this level, and Diaw improving...it's going to be fucking insane. Awesome time to be a Suns fan.
Carpet Lint,
I like the Lakers and the Rockets. Most Laker fans just haven't really cared/taken the Clippers seriously for so long that you can't help but root for them a little bit if you're in LA.
I personally don't care about the Clippers, but since the Lakers are out; why can't we root for someone else? Is that like an unwritten law?
Actually, after thinking about it, I do have to admit that there is a bit of an exception for the two LA basketball teams.
Because the Lakers have always been consistently oen of the top teams in the league for its entire history, and the Lakers and their fans are always looking to win a championship....
...whereas the Clippers have always been consistently the suckiest franchise in the history of sports, and the Clippers and their fans are always looking to not fuck up their lottery picks.
So in a situation like that...it's like the Clippers don't even register to Lakers fans. It's an entirely one-sided rivalry...so it's not as bad as the other way around - if the Clippers got beat and Clippers fans started rooting for the Lakers. That wouldn't work at all.
But isn't there a rivalry when you have teams that close to each other? I mean, you're either a Sox fan or a Cubs fan, a Yankees fan or a Mets fan. I root for the Leafs and even though they're not in the playoffs, I was looking for Carolina to beat Montreal and someone to beat the Sens.
That's the unwritten law of sports rivalries. Why would you root for your rivals? Aren't they...like...you know...rivals?
The D Man
05-07-2006, 11:17 AM
Oh shit.
Raja Bell's mother said to Kobe, "Need a hug"?
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
PBalla
05-07-2006, 11:31 AM
Steve Nash is your MVP
http://www.nba.com/news/nash_mvp_05-06.html
Viscant
05-07-2006, 11:32 AM
I completely disagree. It's OK to like multiple teams, especially given the examples given in baseball. I can like the Angels and the Dodgers. Why? Until interleague games they never played each other and they still haven't played each other in a game of any consequence in the history of either team. That's why the hallway series (rip) was going to be such a big deal. The Lakers/Clippers had played each other but it had never really mattered. They'd never played a playoff game against each other, never any really important game. But this was gonna be important. People were gonna have to choose sides.
Also, I completely agree with James here. At the beginning of the series, I was going to feel happy if the Lakers at least got a game or two and made it look like a series. I remember my Dad and I having dinner talking about how bad a beating the Lakers were in for. And even after they stole game 2, I remember posting somewhere that the series wasn't over and the Lakers might even have a chance. The fact that they lost 3 straight...that was just a cruel twist.
And just because the Lakers lost, people are going to forget what a great coaching job Phil did this year. He got 45 wins out of a team that had only 2 actual NBA players on it. A couple of the Lakers starters (looking hard at Smush here) couldn't even sit on the bench for the remaining playoff teams. Even Lamar couldn't start for most of the playoff teams left. Looking at this roster and this team at the beginning of the season, I was thinking maybe I'd be happy with 30 wins and a couple of big games by Kobe. But they were actually looking like a real NBA team towards the end of the season. That's such a huge accomplishment for this assorted lack of talent.
Things will get better in the future. I really like Andrew Bynum, but not next year. He has a chance to be special in a couple years. There's still potential for the Lakers to do the deal people were talking about in the midseason (Lamar + Kwame + draft picks to Minnesota for KG), as long as Kwame's rape case isn't serious. But even if that doesn't happen, this year's Lakers are only 1 player who can make a damn open shot away from being a dangerous team. Looking at the draft, a good shooter like J.J.Redick might be around for them, and he could come in and help immediately. Kobe should have averaged 10 assists a game if not for the bricks the rest of the team was throwing up all year. Luke has potential to get better. He can't guard anyone and his shot is godawful but these things can be fixed. Rony Turiaf is a quality role player who'll get better. They at least have pieces and I'm looking at another playoff berth next year with a chance to start competing seriously in 2 years.
But man...this season ending like this is gonna sting for a while.
--Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com
^ You also have to take account that the only players on the Lakers with championship rings (sans Phil) is Kobe and Devean George. This Laker team surprised many at how well they did play against the Suns. Everyone scored double digits, rebounded well, and Kobe passed the ball. I think next year, the Lakers will be a better team. They will make for a very scary 5th seed.
DaliPicard
05-07-2006, 12:38 PM
:sad: I hate the Spurs.
illusive
05-07-2006, 12:57 PM
Oh shit.
Raja Bell's mother said to Kobe, "Need a hug"?
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
Damn. She straight up owned Kobe.
Link: http://www.nba.com/suns/playoffs/bell_060506.html
The war of words is over.
Raja Bell and Kobe Bryant went the entire 48 minutes of Game 7 Saturday night without so much as a word shared between them. No, “Congratulations” from Kobe. No “Good series” from Raja.
Bell’s mother, however, did have a parting gift for the Lakers’ superstar, as he passed by the Suns’ family room after his team was eliminated from the 2006 NBA Playoffs with a 31-point loss.
“Need a hug, Kobe?”
4neqs
05-07-2006, 06:17 PM
2. Pistons by 9
More than thrice at this point (though yeah, it's not over yet). Damn.
Goddamn, Detroit. Unadulterated ownage.
jchensor
05-07-2006, 10:27 PM
lol my friend has been screaming at me all series that Kobe is the real MVP. I asked him if MVP's usually score 1 point in the second half of game 7's and he shut the fuck up now.
Honestly speaking, that's really not a fair comment to make. Did you watch the game? It was very much quite apparent he wasn't trying to score.
As for Raja Bell, that guy just needs to shut up. I mean, I like Nash, Marion, Diaw, Barbosa... they are all good players with a good heart, but Bell is just an ass. If the Lakers won, you know Kobe would not have said similar things to Bell, contrary to what people may think. Even in the Shaq/Kobe rivalry days after Shaq was traded to Miami, Shaq was always the one with negative things to say about Kobe when asked about him, not the other way around. Following the Lakers as closely as I do, I know Kobe would have not gone that route. Bell trying to rub it in is low-class IMO. Everything Kobe has said about Bell in that series has been in RESPONSE to something Bell said first.
I haven't followed basketball for that long, so someone feel free to pull an example that kicks my ass on this, but a pure jump shooting team can't get that far in the playoffs. Because you have to expect nights when your shots just don't fall, and you have to have another way to score those nights. And in the first couple of games with the Lakers, the Suns were missing wide open shots they regularly hit, and they couldn't do anything else.
And a bad shooting night kills you more in a seven game playoff series than a 82 game regular season. Plus when you're playing the same team for possibly seven straight games in the playoffs, the defense steps up, and defenders stick closer to jumpshooters and they get more familiar with them over a couple straight games, and so you have to have alternate ways to score.
No, you are absolutely right. A jump shooting team normally does NOT win championships these days. And in fact, common sense says the Suns won't be able to get that far. My point is that the Suns are not your ordinary Jump Shooting team. I cannot recall a team as good as these current Suns are with their jump shot accuracy. Especially when they play loose. If it weren't against the Lakers, I'd've thought it a joy to watch. Heck, last year I was rooting for the Suns for most of the playoffs! It's almost a shame to me that the Suns have to play the Clippers next, since I'll be rooting for the Clips. But as I said before, this year I just can't root for the Suns 'cause I don't want them to win without Amare playing. :-(
And to be honest, if they can drop Bell, then I can feel better about rooting for them. I mean, NO ONE can honestly say that Bell's clothesline + chockhold wasn't extremely low class and the dumbest move possible (outside of the side effect of getting himself suspended to wake up Barbosa). That was the ultimate no class right there.
- James
Galactic
05-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Uh, how about Kobe saying that throwing elbows "is not my style. That's just not how I play."
When he not only elbowed Raja twice, he seemed to forget that he GOT SUSPENDED for throwing a flagrant forearm punch into Mike Miller's face earlier in the season. A CLEAR act of dirty play. It was way worse than Artest's hit on Manu.
It's quite obvious Kobe is a dirty ass player too, he just gets away with it more.
And just for the record, I am perfectly fine with Kobe being a dirty player. Some of my favorite players, Stockton, Oakley, Xavier, Laimbeer, Isiah, etc have all taken a roll in the dirt before. What I'm NOT fine with is Kobe claiming that he's not, when he clearly is.
You can talk about Raja being low class all you want, but Kobe's just as bad, if not worse, because not ONLY does he get away with it a lot more, but people seem to be quick to FORGIVE AND FORGET about his shit.
^_-;
Def1n1tely
05-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Uh, how about Kobe saying that throwing elbows "is not my style. That's just not how I play."
When he not only elbowed Raja twice..
http://www.filelodge.com/files/room14/358676/Raja-flops.gif
have u read the thread? i think its been posted already 98409237472352788 times that that "elbow" was a flop
he seemed to forget that he GOT SUSPENDED for throwing a flagrant forearm punch into Mike Miller's face earlier in the season. A CLEAR act of dirty play.
I saw that game. That was in retaliation because Kobe got hit hard in the face first by mike miller and no fouls were called. Did u even know that? or u just basing everything off what you see in sportscenter
I remember also a Lakers vs Heat game when Kobe inadvertantly hit dwyane wade in the chest trying to get inside position in the post, and wade retaliated back with an a straight up intentional elbow to kobes chest. kobe didnt even do anything to retaliate after. did wade get a tech? nope. suspension? nope
And just for the record, I am perfectly fine with Kobe being a dirty player. Some of my favorite players, Stockton, Oakley, Xavier, Laimbeer, Isiah, etc have all taken a roll in the dirt before. What I'm NOT fine with is Kobe claiming that he's not, when he clearly is.
I don't think Kobe's a dirty player. He doesn't need to be one. Most of the dirty players are usually one sided and lack talent, therefore they need to play dirty. I just think Kobe's a physical player. For just a guard, he plays on the post a lot and thats gonna generate a lot of physical contact more often than the bigs.
but Kobe's just as bad, if not worse, because not ONLY does he get away with it a lot more
knot... forehead... game 1
raja bell got most of the flops called for him... he got suspended from elbowing mike miller... so how does kobe get away with it?
way to know your facts buddy
^_-;
Watch a bigger version of that file...somehow raja is able to flex his "cheek" muscle and make it look like rocky just got hit in the face.
jchensor
05-08-2006, 12:25 AM
Uh... that's NOT his style. What's wrong with saying he doesn't throw elbows? He's right. Really, Kobe doesn't elbow people on purpose. I mean, Raja Bell is the only player that has been elbowed that badly all year long, and just in this series. And, as others have pointed out, one of those elbows was CLEARLY a flop, as Kobe missed pretty obviously.
I'm not saying that Raja Bell flops and cheats, it's that he plays smart. Derek Fisher did it just as much, and I acknowledge that a lot of the times, it's a smart way to play. Bell knows he has little chance of guarding Kobe (not a knock on Bell, but it's true that 99% of the players in the league cannot guard Kobe... and I'm not over-hyping Kobe, either, because I'd pay the same compliment to LeBron, Arenas, Ginobli, Mr. Longoria, Dirk Nowitzki, Nash, etc.). So he plays Kobe with his face close to Kobe. If he catches (or "catches") an elbow, he gets a call in his favor. One play I recall, Kobe was resting, leaning over, hands on his knees. Bell leans OVER Kobe while Kobe slumps a bit. Someone gets ready to pass the ball to Kobe, so he stands up... and happens to stand up into Bell. Bell falls to the floor in a spastic craze, and an offensive foul gets called on Kobe. It was pretty obvious on replay.
Bell is not a dirty player. He's smart, it's how he should guard Kobe. I just hope the league does something about it and starts to call technicals on flops. Even if they are wrong 50% of the time, it'll discourage people from trying it (did you see Ginobli today against Nowitzki? Grabbed Dirk's arm, pulled on it, and then launched himself off of Dirk as if Dirk pushed him. Refs didn't buy it, though). I just think the clothesline and his reaction to the whole thing was low class. I mean, can you imagine losing an SF game and the winner talking shit to the loser? Nobody respects that. If you won, you don't need to say anymore, no? Your game did the talking enough. In fact, going up to them and shaking their hand and saying "Good series. Good luck next year!" is classy, but gets the message across every bit as well.
I can't defend Kobe's elbow on Miller. That was stupid, and I hope Kobe learned from that. And he deserved to be suspended. But when it happened, I distinctly remember thinking, "Woa... That's not Kobe-like at all." It was a retaliation for getting nailed on the head earlier so it wasn't like he was just looking to take him out for no reason (like Posey did to Hinrich!).
I know you aren't bagging on Kobe either, so me defending him like this is almost moot. ^_^ You're right, a lot of great players are dirty (including Michael "Clear out Bryon Russell" Jordan, Reggie "Let's shove Greg Anthony out of the way" Miller, John "Take down the big men" Stockton, and Karl "Knees when I jump" Malone... ^_^). But I really don't think of Kobe as a dirty player. I can tell his mindset: he's egotistical enough to know he can beat you without being dirty. ^_^
- James
Robust
05-08-2006, 01:08 AM
C-L-I-P-P-E-R-S
LETS GO!
I talked with my boy frankie muniz + the onwer of the clippers. He said, "If we play the Lakers next year in the playoffs, we'll spot them 3 games...you know, just to challenge ourselves."
Congrats to the lakers, once again, for making history only like the Lakers could.
<3
Any of you who saw the post-game/analysis of game 7 heard Scottie Pippen called it; the Lakers fucked up.
opticallyinviz
05-08-2006, 06:16 AM
Scottie Pippen made my night when I saw that.
Suns and clippers tonight. Let's get it.
Blackestheart
05-08-2006, 10:19 AM
Just wanted to say congrats to my boy Steve Nash for another "well deserved" mvp award.
Hokuto Shingo
05-08-2006, 11:20 AM
Question: How many times a game does Ginobili end on the floor a game? The man hits the deck if you fuckin breathe on him. How can people mistake him for an All-Star? He's the most overrated "All-Stars" in the league. Damn that Bruce Bowen
Legendary Gokou
05-08-2006, 12:25 PM
Question: How many times a game does Ginobili end on the floor a game? The man hits the deck if you fuckin breathe on him. How can people mistake him for an All-Star? He's the most overrated "All-Stars" in the league. Damn that Bruce Bowen
Ginobili doesn't get as many calls on the flop anymore. I remember when I went to the Sacramento game here in SA. He flopped, the refs didn't blow the whistle and Wells had a free drive in.
I didn't really see many cases of it in the Maverick game. The times he fell opponents would get caught using their free hand to push off. He over exagerates, but he does a good job of getting the refs attention.
TehBooGiEMaN
05-08-2006, 05:19 PM
Nets
DaliPicard
05-08-2006, 06:36 PM
Am I really in denial? I feel like I'm going through the same thing when Karl Malone was begining to slow down and I denied it and argued with everyone who thought so. Is the same thing starting to happen to Shaq? I can't explain this post season any other way.
Galactic
05-08-2006, 07:04 PM
Are the Nets really blowing out the Heat?
Did Ason find a J?
^_-;
jae hoon
05-08-2006, 08:07 PM
Kobe doesnt know the Kid, Raja honestly didnt do shit against Kobe. He certaintly didnt stop him.
TrunksSS3
05-08-2006, 08:14 PM
trunks never goes SS3.
i think the whole world know's that...right?
Cletus Kasady
05-08-2006, 10:27 PM
Food for thought; didn't Kobe have 23 points in the first half of Game 7...only to take three shots and end up with 24 at the end of the game?
HMMMMMMMMMMM.......
Carpet Lint
05-08-2006, 10:35 PM
Am I really in denial? I feel like I'm going through the same thing when Karl Malone was begining to slow down and I denied it and argued with everyone who thought so. Is the same thing starting to happen to Shaq? I can't explain this post season any other way.
He had a bad start this game, but finishing with 20 and 10 while in foul trouble the whole game, after a 30 and 20 game isn't really washed-up territory yet.
Like I said before, I think the reason Shaq's been getting into so much foul trouble lately is because the perimeter defense on the Heat sucks balls, and everyone is given free access to any spot on the floor. A lot of times I think Shaq is forced to foul because one of Wade/Posey/Williams/The Mitten gets blown by.
Chicago had Hinrich, Gordon, and Nocioni getting to the basket at will, and the Nets have like...the SS3 versions of those three in Kidd, Carter, and Jefferson.
________
So I see the Suns beat the Clippers.
At this point, I'm just going to shut up about what this team should and shouldn't be able to do, and just watch the games.
I still remember the MLB playoffs, when I was saying the whole year that the White Sox weren't going to make the playoffs, then that they wouldn't win 100 games, and then that they wouldn't get out of the first round, and then they were lucky to get out of the first round but they weren't going past the second, and then that they were going to get raped by an Astros team that just beat the Cardinals...and then they ended up sweeping them for the championship.
I'm so bad at this stuff.
Hoonyo
05-08-2006, 10:47 PM
i remember watching dbz and trunks kinda went up a level during the cell saga. was that level 1.5?
oh, and go suns!
TehBooGiEMaN
05-08-2006, 11:01 PM
charles almost had that
Hoonyo
05-08-2006, 11:02 PM
charles almost had thatkenny made him laugh =\
suns win game 1...good job!
WTF...Artest made an offer...to play free of charge if the head coach Rick Adelmen and Bonzi Wells return next season.
http://www.nba.com/news/290596.html
donaldducktm
05-09-2006, 12:16 AM
Food for thought; didn't Kobe have 23 points in the first half of Game 7...only to take three shots and end up with 24 at the end of the game?
HMMMMMMMMMMM.......
omg........ madness is coming...... 24 is coming..............
jchensor
05-09-2006, 12:43 AM
My darn DVR didn't record Inside the NBA tonight thanks to it recording 24 instead.
What was the gist of Barkley and Kobe chattin' with each other long distance? Anyone got a transcript or a movie rip of what was said?
- James
donaldducktm
05-09-2006, 01:43 AM
My darn DVR didn't record Inside the NBA tonight thanks to it recording 24 instead.
- James
omg..........
Robust
05-09-2006, 09:26 AM
My darn DVR didn't record Inside the NBA tonight thanks to it recording 24 instead.
What was the gist of Barkley and Kobe chattin' with each other long distance? Anyone got a transcript or a movie rip of what was said?
- James
Barkley called kobe selfish
Kobe txted him very angrily(about 20 times)
they exchanged comments
somehow this brought up that barkley was getting money for his comment(possibly through betting?) Nothing was directly said but you could infer that they were talking about his gambling issue
Barkley states that kobe is the best, and he disagreed with his choice in the 2nd half, and he says that kobe is the best in the world
Then he says he apprecialed that kobe approached him, even though he didn't call him, and that he advises everyone to do so when they disagree with his comments
Cool-Breeze
05-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Ya'll are really trippin man lets set the record straight.
The Lakers in the first half STILL were not doing so hot when he had 23 points.
Secondly its true he CAN dominate but whether you all like it or not he COULDN't dominate in the second half of that game when he wanted to or when the team NEEDED him to.
Look I watched the entire game, matter of fact a friend of mine recorded the game, and here is a few things you all missed... THIS AINT FOOTBALL.
Kobe was getting double and triple teamed at the 3 point line most of the second half of the game.
It was smarter for him to pass it to a wide open Smush Parker, or Brian Cook or Lamar Odom. Its not his fault those fucks DIDN'T make shots when the time permitted.
Next even if he did tie the game or even win the game for L.A. why go threw all this over exhaustion playing so hard making ya body ache just to go to the second round and face the same fate.
Im soooo Tired of this shit and Im not even a Kobe Bryant fan. The man is damned if he does and damned if he dont and it sucks. I dont feel bad for him but people need to shut this shit up, He played pretty solid in this series YET every time the Lakers fucked up some how it was always HIS fault, did you all forget these fuckers OVER ACHIEVED byt even making it to the Playoffs in the first place??? Did you all also forget they over Achieved by going up 3-1 on a team ranked 2nd in offense??? a team with like a top for record in the NBA???
Statistically they were not even supposed to be there, Kobe Shined his own team and the SUNS. Phoenix went out there and WON a game for a NO NAME Raja Bell, KOBE just Made Raja Bell a house hold name for the rest of the Playoffs. Now what does Kobe get from his team... SHOOTING less than 36% in a game seven,DECIDING GAME.
If I was Kobe I would not have wanted to score 50 points in the second half and win it, just for those fucks to give up on me AGAIN in the second round, hell Kobe wasnt going to get the credit for it anyways, you would have heard the likes of Walton saying "Kwame Brown is finally growing up" or "Lamar Odom is such a great perimeter shooter and team player" "Wow Smush Parker has such tramendous speed" all this shit but no credit to kobe except ohh he does that every night, The man stepped up his game changed it even, fuck the team giving up on Phil, Kobe is the floor general they Gave up on HIM, HE got them there not Phil Jackson GET THAT SHIT STRAIGHT NOW :annoy: :arazz:
P.S. Im still not a Kobe fan but give the man his just due, He Played his heart out and look what he got in return... MORE Critisism
ckrazy
05-09-2006, 03:52 PM
i agree with u for the most part beside the last line where u said he played his heart out
if he did he wouldn't be on the bench in the 4th quarter even if they were down like a bazillion .... but he did try his best to help the team win when he was in the game but he did how ever give up at the end
DaliPicard
05-09-2006, 03:54 PM
OMG, ever heard of "Win or Go Home"? Why are there still so many Lakers post, goto PMs.
Snip
This is true, and i completely agree. I don't hate kobe, i just hate how he's fucking broken in the game of basketball LOL.
Anyways, yea kobe tried to get his teammates involved, but when your team is shooting like shit, then there's nothing more than you can do.
Smush parker needed like 10 seconds on a wide open three to finally make a shot in the last 3 games. that is saying ALOT right there.
And the reason why he was shooting so much in the regular season was...because he had to. His team is inconsistent, and it shows. He just wants to win...Just like everyone wants their team to win.
Hoonyo
05-09-2006, 04:17 PM
suns win game 1...good job!
WTF...Artest made an offer...to play free of charge if the head coach Rick Adelmen and Bonzi Wells return next season.
http://www.nba.com/news/290596.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2439143
Adelman is gone.
Robust
05-09-2006, 04:56 PM
OMG, ever heard of "Win or Go Home"? Why are there still so many Lakers post, goto PMs.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
AkumaTX
05-09-2006, 05:55 PM
where is all the lebron is the man talk. Whree are his 40 points against a team that knows d.
ckrazy
05-09-2006, 06:49 PM
where is all the lebron is the man talk. Whree are his 40 points against a team that knows d.
.... i doubt leborn gonna get 40 points against the best D in the league as of right now... would be nice to see it but chances are not gonna happen... i'll be shock if cavs can take it to a game 5
Legendary Gokou
05-09-2006, 06:53 PM
Well the Cavs did make a small run at the end. So I think they'll win a game at home.
Detroit still wins the series.
lonewolf6465
05-09-2006, 08:26 PM
Dtown in 7 .. Cavs win all 3 home games.
KarateKing
05-09-2006, 09:48 PM
i agree with cool-breeze on kobe bryant and im a big kobe fan. NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES PEOPLE WILL FIND ANYTHING TO GIVE HIM CRAP FOR!!!!!!!!!
totaltoanage
05-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Omg Dalla$$$$$$$$$$$
The Invincible Swordsman
05-09-2006, 10:07 PM
Why are we talking about a team that choked and is no longer in the playoffs? Root for the Clippers or something.
Dallas gave SA a BEATDOWN tonight. Dirk is still pissing me off by getting bothered by Shikamaru so much. Just power and shoot over him. Take your time and own him.
This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:
Cleveland has NO CHANCE to stretch the series to 6 games. D-troit is so superior it's not even funny.
Hokuto Shingo
05-10-2006, 06:39 AM
Ok my uncle (Elston Turner) is the top assistant coach in Sac. And since Adelman got the can I wonder if that means my uncle would be named Head Coach.
Aznhadoken
05-10-2006, 07:39 AM
I don't think your uncle will be promoted to the head coach. I think the kings also declined the contracts of Adelman's assistants.
" The Kings also declined to renew the contracts of Adelman's four assistants: Elston Turner, T.R. Dunn, Bubba Burrage and Pete Carril, the Hall of Fame former Princeton coach who spent nine of the last 10 years as a Sacramento assistant."
PBalla
05-10-2006, 08:07 AM
http://dds-softball.com/misc/lakersuns.jpg
ha!
PBalla
05-10-2006, 08:21 AM
i think the whole world know's that...right?
i dunno :arazz: :wgrin: :looney: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Cool-Breeze
05-10-2006, 09:33 AM
Why are we talking about a team that choked and is no longer in the playoffs? Root for the Clippers or something.
Dallas gave SA a BEATDOWN tonight. Dirk is still pissing me off by getting bothered by Shikamaru so much. Just power and shoot over him. Take your time and own him.
This has been THE INVINCIBLE SWORDSMAN saying:
Cleveland has NO CHANCE to stretch the series to 6 games. D-troit is so superior it's not even funny.
Cleveland will win one game at home, Hell David Stern is watching so there you go.
Next Dallas could sneak in another win due to Parkers thigh injuries but even then they will have to step it up 3 notches to take out San Antonio.
Howard stepped up last night, In game three they will need another unsung to do this as well as Dirk (Jason Terry)
Then in game 4 Stackhouse needs to return to game one status, once they get the 3-1 lead they need to do OPPOSITE L.A. Lakers and EVERYONE go nuts, pound the ball inside with Diop just to rack up fouls on Nazr and Duncan, take Jumpers within 16 and 17 feet, Slash with Harris and Howard and Terry, I mean hit them fools with the Heeeee Yaaaaw in the deciding game.
Spurs got to many slow bodies playing defense, why is it such a problem for dirk? Let alone anyone else once he passes it to them in the open and they drive I dont get it, the past 6 games I have seen the Spurs play (Not including the reg. season) they have not been collapsing well at all on the smaller guys heading towards the paint, Dirk has a better supportig cast than Kobe did in his series so he should trust his guys more.
The Clippers should have won that game, Im expecting a game 2 win and a nice series from them as well.
TrunksSS3
05-10-2006, 09:41 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2439143
Adelman is gone.
thats sad to hear
and dirk does not have to take over the game when he has very good teammates..and also dirk did play very well last night and shot well.
Cool-Breeze
05-10-2006, 09:52 AM
thats sad to hear
and dirk does not have to take over the game when he has very good teammates..and also dirk did play very well last night and shot well.
He doesnt have to do it every game no.
But his dominance opens up the floor for his entire team and he did limit himself the other night, by state-ing he COULDN'T get 30 to 35 because they play such good defense, thats like saying ummm Im not gonna even attempt this feet cause there sooo good. He is the team leader and thinking like that damn near guarantee's San Antonio the series.
Cletus Kasady
05-10-2006, 10:09 AM
But Dirk isn't the one who can push tempo and break down the Spurs defense by penetrating. That's Howard/Stackhouse/Harris/etc; Parker and Ginobili have to be healthy (and consistent in Ginobili's case) in order to keep up with them.
If the Spurs win, though, it will likely be in big part because Dallas can't guard Tim Duncan without doubling him, and it doesn't look like Johnson wants to go small so that he gets stuck against Nowitzki or Howard.
Hoonyo
05-10-2006, 10:24 AM
Devin Harris is #1a?
Hokuto Shingo
05-10-2006, 11:16 AM
I Will Be At Game 3 In Dallas!
jae hoon
05-10-2006, 05:20 PM
No surprise Dallas won, it will probably be a 7 game series. The Mavs are still a solid team without Dirk, Ginobili's body is starting to betray him and Parker may or maynot still be injured in Game 3.
UltraDavid
05-10-2006, 05:34 PM
Heat got 41 points in the first quarter... wow.
jae hoon
05-10-2006, 06:09 PM
Miami has to do two things:
1. Not have a second half collapse like they did with Chicago acouple times, NJ is a better team and it will cost Miami if they have that now.
2. Sustain this type of play the next game, this seems to be the biggest problem. For whatever reason Miami will play great one game, then the next they play like they have no buisness being in the playoffs.
4neqs
05-10-2006, 09:51 PM
Goddamn, Clippers. Definitely owned the paint.
donaldducktm
05-10-2006, 10:59 PM
Clippers has so much talent in every position....
Cassell, Mobley, Maggette, Brand, Kaman, Ross, Livingston, Radmonovic.....omg......
Night
05-10-2006, 11:08 PM
It's about GOD DAMN time someone from Duke is actually performing in the NBA. Mike SHASHEFSKI... great college coach since he can get the best out of his players when playing in college, but that's when they're at their peak pretty much, which doesn't end up making too much of an impact on an NBA team... but FINALLY there's someone.
Robust
05-10-2006, 11:33 PM
hop on the wagon laker fans, your team sucks and will continue to suck for years. The Movement has begun. Clipper Nation has risen to the top of L.A. How sweet it is. Once livingston hits the weight room, wow, i don't even want to think about it. He's going to dominate.
DaliPicard
05-11-2006, 02:59 AM
These playoffs are trully unpredictable, I did nt see this comming from the Clippers.
NeREMIXED
05-11-2006, 08:03 AM
Once livingston hits the weight room, wow, i don't even want to think about it. He's going to dominate.
yep
UltraDavid
05-11-2006, 08:48 AM
hop on the wagon laker fans, your team sucks and will continue to suck for years. The Movement has begun. Clipper Nation has risen to the top of L.A. How sweet it is. Once livingston hits the weight room, wow, i don't even want to think about it. He's going to dominate.
I hear that! This team, if it stays together, really doesn't have a ceiling. I was so stoked when the Clips made the playoffs, and when they won the first round it felt like they won it all, but now I'm really expecting big things. Maybe they'll lose in the Western finals this season, but next season they'll be even better.
Robust
05-11-2006, 09:56 AM
I hear that! This team, if it stays together, really doesn't have a ceiling. I was so stoked when the Clips made the playoffs, and when they won the first round it felt like they won it all, but now I'm really expecting big things. Maybe they'll lose in the Western finals this season, but next season they'll be even better.
Well it all depends on the owner if he's going to resign all the players again. Magette is expected to be leaving after this season, but who knows? If they make it super far, i don't see why they wouldn't pay him the money he deserves. I've seriously been telliny my roommate all year about livingston, and how good he was, but no love in L.A. for the clips. The town isn't big enough.
It's crazy how Brand magically learned how to shoot 8-12 foot jumper. I remember when they first traded the rights to chandler for brand I was upset, especially since I watched chandler ball it up in H.S. But wow, what a decision. At 6'8" i thought he would get rocked by other fowards/center(like most blue devil centers in the nba), but damn he's risen above most duke alumnus in that position.
jae hoon
05-11-2006, 04:44 PM
It's about GOD DAMN time someone from Duke is actually performing in the NBA. Mike SHASHEFSKI... great college coach since he can get the best out of his players when playing in college, but that's when they're at their peak pretty much, which doesn't end up making too much of an impact on an NBA team... but FINALLY there's someone.
Sadly he should have at least two more,
Lattener had the talent and even managed to make the All Star team with the Hawks. He just had attitude problems, so no one wanted him or wanted to play him.
Hill just had to many injuries, he still might make the Hall of Fame anyway.
DanielLarusso
05-11-2006, 10:54 PM
^Explain.
Philidelphia is rumoured to be trying to ship Iverson to Minnesota for a deal involving Troy Hudson or Rahad McCants. Maybe both. If they pull off that deal and Minnesota gets A.I., there's no way KG is going to the Lakers. Also keep in mind that KG would have to ask to be traded since he's under contract.
I bring that up cause there's a lot of KG-to-the-Lakers talk out there.
DAMN I'm batting 1000 for my first round playoff projections. Here are my first round projections, posted before the playoffs began:
EAST
First round
(1) Pistons vs. (8) Bucks (Pistons advance - Detroit brings the brooms)
(2) Heat vs. (7) Bulls (Heat advance - But Bulls show promise. "Air" Gordon has a 35 point game)
(3) Nets vs. (6) Pacers (Nets advance - Jermaine O'Neal accidently passes the ball to TNT analyst Reggie Miller during game 2.)
(4) Cavs vs. (5) Wizards (Cavs advance - Too much LeBron)
WEST
First round
(1) Spurs vs. (8) Kings (Spurs advance - Artest rushes the stands in game 4)
(2) Suns vs. (7) Lakers (Suns advance - Kobe makes it interesting, but can only do so much)
(3) Nuggets vs. (6) Clips (Clips advance - Brand will call Melo out for a cheap foul in game 5, and Melo will tell him "stop snitching.")
(4) Mavs vs. (5) Grizzlies (Mavs advance - After Dirk drops 45 in the final game of the series, "The Czar" Mike Fratello says "fuck this, I'm going back to doing color commentary.)
Ben Gordon dropped 35 on Miami, and I could've sworn I heard Mike Fratello calling a game for TNT or ESPN.
You may want to go to Vegas on my picks this year. I'll repost my second round prognostications once the second round is over.
Hoonyo
05-12-2006, 01:04 AM
Juwan Howard caught on surveillance tape stealing a pair of sunglasses worth more than $1000. LMAO.
http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_130224249.html
Cool-Breeze
05-12-2006, 08:38 AM
Juwan Howard caught on surveillance tape stealing a pair of sunglasses worth more than $1000. LMAO.
http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_130224249.html
:rofl: :rofl: :looney: :looney:
See what Playing with Tracy McGrady will get you :arazz:
Anyways Where the helll did these freegin Clippers fans come from All of a sudden huh??
I was telling people why the Clippers had a good chance of making it to the 2nd round and maybe even defeating the SUNS or LAKERS pages ago now people posting up "Drop the Lakers and join the Clippers band wagon"
Pfft people cut the act you band wagon jumping pussies, I hate when people see a good thing then suddenly want to take all the credit for it AHHHHHHHH:annoy:
Even after I posted about the Clippers I saw nothing but bad remarks about em and now we suddenly got fans of what used to be (And still is) one of the bottom feeding teams in the NBA.
This has happened before with the Clips, they reached the Playoffs a few years back and had the potential to be a team on the rise along with Golden State, but the fucks got an owner who likes to SAVE money not SPEND it so how long you guys think this is going to last??
On to Better news, so with KG out there once he asks for a trade doesnt this mean the Timberwolves will HAVE to rebuild??
I mean because who in the blue hell are they going to get from the Lakers to keep the Timberwolves a Playoff contention team??
On the other hand, with the MINOR success the Lakers had this season, will they be giving up TO MUCH to even gain the "Big Ticket"??
With that question im asking in terms of team chemistry, Positions nedded to continue the uprise of the organization etc??
Robust
05-12-2006, 10:16 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :looney: :looney:
See what Playing with Tracy McGrady will get you :arazz:
Anyways Where the helll did these freegin Clippers fans come from All of a sudden huh??
I was telling people why the Clippers had a good chance of making it to the 2nd round and maybe even defeating the SUNS or LAKERS pages ago now people posting up "Drop the Lakers and join the Clippers band wagon"
Pfft people cut the act you band wagon jumping pussies, I hate when people see a good thing then suddenly want to take all the credit for it AHHHHHHHH:annoy:
Even after I posted about the Clippers I saw nothing but bad remarks about em and now we suddenly got fans of what used to be (And still is) one of the bottom feeding teams in the NBA.
This has happened before with the Clips, they reached the Playoffs a few years back and had the potential to be a team on the rise along with Golden State, but the fucks got an owner who likes to SAVE money not SPEND it so how long you guys think this is going to last??
I hope this isn't directed towards me, because I am the only true clipper fan(devil x , hehe) on this board, and I didn't post before because general discussion is a waste of time. I still think they need to get rid of it. lol.
But yeah, I think it will last for a long time. They're going to resign magette, hopefully. I will really be sad if livingston would leave. The owner should be making a lot more money since playoff tickets sale/jersey/overall vibe in l.a. Also, with all the success, I doubt any owner in their r