Am I A S- Scrub?????

[snarleySONIC007]

Ok Ive been playing this for a while now, and I feel Im pretty good (almost as good as the legend killer), but Ive hit a wall and dont seem to see how to improve my game also I want to know if I play like an uber scrub or if my style is actually good or not, so what im asking for are good players to play me then post back on here with some tips!

Hopefully as well as helping me others can read up on this too,and get some hints if I can ask that only the best players post on this though (boobjeta, ryu1234, zerrotollerance need not aply)
ps Ronzo Alexi I know you think im a scrub but our last set was prettty decent.

Thanks.


(Selfish I know) :lame: :clap:

[snarleySONIC007]

ok obviously that was meant am i AN s=scrub no am i a s-scrub that makes no sense.... :badboy: :clap: :clap:

ps if you can post your tags here or just add me to your lists cheers.

[ParryAll]

I don't know if ur any good or not, I never played you, but theres lots of people from the UK who play this online, so just keep practicing and keep ur head up.

[Mikee_Showbiz]

XBL tag = Shigeki.

I'm not going to judge whether you're a scrub or not, I just want some games against new UK heads :tup:

[KneelB4Me]

Whats up pal,

overall youre pretty good. The thing is tho, with the way your playing and the speed you are trying to play at, you are leaving holes in your gameplan. So personally I think you need to slow your game down a touch and try applying better strats.

1 was the jumping. You should only really jump when you think it WILL be to your advantage. Good players will murder you for jumping too much.

2nd is excessive use of specials from mid screen. I remember quite a few ex hurricanes coming my way. Not really a good plan, all it takes is the right poke to have you falling back to your feet and a risk of you being caught in a possible setup to take more damage. You are on the back-foot when that happens.

3rd is you should learn combo into super. Anything along the lines of double tap xx super. If anything this is a good way to get your execution down and get you used to applying more technical setups. It helps knowing this when its time to punish as combos into super deal a lot of damage.

4th, dont use a great ammount of wakeup specials. It makes your intentions pretty obvious and will lead to you eating a combo.

Last thing is I noticed you never liked throwing too much. Throws are very important in this game. Obviously they defeat the purpose of parrys, and everybody parrys, so everybody throws.

[snarleySONIC007]

thanks but erm I throw a hell of a low and I pretty much never do ex hurricanes are you sure you remeber playing me? the only one that sounds familiar is the jumping bit and I tend to use that either empty with air parry in mind for a land throw or for a cross over, we need to play again pal just to see if it was me because that doesnt sound like me.... :) but thanks for the tips!

[sidewinder]

OWNED.... :pray: :pray: :smokin: :rock:

[KneelB4Me]

It was you man. The 2nd time I played you after you got the YoroiDoushi tag you kept jumping. I was countering with ex Dp's. You then chose Ken and proceeded to spam ex hurricanes and jumping. You then got fed up, dropped on defeat and removed me from your friendslist.

The last time we played you chose Ibuki a lot. Proceeded to jump a lot, spam wakeup specials and continuosly try her overhead kick into super. Theres no point in saying it doesnt sound like you, when it is you. When I figure out the way people play I'll change my tactics for each player. I didnt like rushing in on you because you would throw random specials, so I would just stand my ground and try to counter your moves.

You wanted tips on how to improve your game, Im just trying to help. Of course you will be fine on XBL with your current strats, but it wont mean nothing in the bigger picture.

I am giving my opinion based on what CAN be achieved in 3S if that makes you feel any better. As I said your current game is obviously good enough for XBL if you have achieved an S rank. Hell I found overheads into super tricky to deal with and were both in the UK.

I dont play 3S anymore. Its funny because somebody was asking me the other day why not. One of the reasons I stated was because people will even drop on you for AA'ing. I think that post can be found somewhere in the CVS2BG thread.

[snarleySONIC007]

hey man didnt mean to offend or nowt I just thought you thought i was someone else maybe i do spam ex hurricanes after all(because you definatley got me down with ibukis overhead)......................and BTW I didnt say it didnt sound like me because I was trying to protect myself from your criticism I honestly didnt realise that I played like that! (which is what im going to work on from now on)

Cheers bud. :)

[ereet]

Ok Ive been playing this for a while now, and I feel Im pretty good (almost as good as the legend killer), but Ive hit a wall and dont seem to see how to improve my game also I want to know if I play like an uber scrub or if my style is actually good or not, so what im asking for are good players to play me then post back on here with some tips!

I played you a few games a while back and your game is definately not too shabby. It's hard to give a good representation of how good someones game is online since they can be judged not entirely on their performance, but their use of 'lag tactics' and desire to win as well. The best way to find out in my opinion, is to go to your local arcade and see how your game stacks up against real competition. If there isn't one near you, XLive is the only way.

Online play is completely different from arcade play, and what someone can pull off online can be entirely different from offline. If all you've got in your area is XLive, you may find yourself the king of online play, but still a scrub at your local arcade (or vice versa). Both these statements loosely translate to, something that is easily baitable/blockable in the arcade may not appear so online, as a result, can be gotten away with unpunished a lot. The best way to find these out is to read what people don't like, and then not do it.

For the character I play mainly Urien, this translates to few tackles that aren't followed with a reflector, little to no fireball usage unless my opponent is jumping a lot, and random roundhouse kneedrops. Each character is different though, and as you will find, there ARE players considered good on live that do exactly what I just said not to. The question is, which strategies are unsafe or deemed annoying online for your characters (Ibuki? Shotos?), and which ones you do or don't want to use. The only way to find out is to read (and assume you're getting the right information) or play offline.

Try finding people in your area that DO play at local arcades, and have a microphone. That way, you can get a constant feedback on what you're doing that may be considered 'bad'. I've only done this a little with oOoORageOoOo attempting to describe my 'shoddy' shoto executions. There was no result, as I was saying what I was actually trying to do, while the actual input was coming out (ie. super instead of uppercut, etc), but I feel someone like KneelB4Me on the other end of the mike saying 'lag tactic' or 'that was a genuinely good hit' for your offense would help in what you're asking. Sorry for the essay, but it's a tough question to answer, and the best way to find out is others perception of your online play. Fixing it ... is (I think) what I suggested in the first paragraph :tup:

[Ki Shima]

in my opinion theres no diffrence between either xlive or arcade, it all depends on ur mind, if you really wanna prove urself or ur comftable with people watching u play and it makes playing good more meaningful then you play good

the reason its more important to be good at arcade is because u need to get comftable with spectators, if ur at home and then a friend comes in its higly likely that it will mess with ur chi, if ur comftable with people around you while playing then ull hav no worries because when ur on xlive ur at home, where its comftable

go to the arcade, get that whole flow into ur system and no one can say shit to you, because if you lose at the arcade dont feel inferior thats just shit, chances are youll lose to someone half as good as you at arcades if ur not comftable lol

[edit- on a respect scale for the way people play he's right, but if it was a game of death (for money) who givsa fuck about what people dont learn to deal with, fighting isnt about giving people a chance its about exploiting their weaknesses, yes doing the same shit is annoying but its not impossible to deal with, what IS shit is when people do bate shit when you know ur better but they brag saying theyre better than you, what ur supposed to do my friends is go to practise, mimic what theyve done to you and find a way to punish it, stop limiting yourself to a path, stop sitting on that couch, learn to adapt]

[Shinshay]

Hey yoroi doushi,

I am also known as Ronzo Axlei and I think that you are a decent player. I just played on that Ronzo Axlei account because I didn't have my Hori Stick at the time so I had to use control pad. So, I doubt if I will ever use the ronzo axlei account ever again.

[ereet]

in my opinion theres no diffrence between either xlive or arcade, it all depends on ur mind, if you really wanna prove urself or ur comftable with people watching u play and it makes playing good more meaningful then you play good

Being able to parry based on sight in comparison to being able to parry on "guessing" all the time makes a huge difference in my gameplay. A good example of this would be one of my friends who played Aegis Reflect earlier this week. I let him play the first game against him, and Aegis tore him a new one, double perfect in fact. He looked at me and was like "wtf? how come I can't parry?"

That being said, an arcade player playing XLive will have extreme difficulty in parrying stuff consistantly, and vice versa. I've only ever seen one guy on XLive with parry skills rivaling that of people at my local arcade (Nemyus), and if the majority of people on live can't parry as well as offline -- LET THE CHEESE BEGIN. There's a reason bitchass akumas can run away doing nothing but air fireball and hurricane kick, and that is that parrying online is generally more difficult.

You just can't get away with stupid shit like excessive hurricanes, headstomps or air fireballs at the local arcades here, so all I was trying to say if you're doing that -- you're fooling yourself into thinking your getting better by playing online.

[snarleySONIC007]

no I disagree with that im a hell of a lot better than I was when I first got on line, with a good connection you can do almost all that you can do offline, but the biggest thing is you learn new strats, you improve your timing and you get loads of experience playing different styles, I think any decent xbox live player could do well offline (given time to adapt to the timing of course)and I do believe the majority of non lag tactics on live are also used offline.

But also im aware that the people who player regular offline line are superior players. Im just saying all the base work can be done on live :)