MVC2: art of mashing

[golba666]

i think alot of ppl misunderstand wuts mashable wutsnot so ill start the ball rolling
mashable to add damage
1) sent hard drive
2)commando hk throw
3)both metal claw wolverine throws
4)hvb
5)SHUMA HK THROW
6)tron drill
7) hail storm

Mashable to escape
1)mag tempest
2)thanos bubble
3)grenades
4)bh demons

i wanna add that iron man photoncannon is NOT mashable so stop breaking joysticks

[BIG BAD MOG]

I mash everything. It makes a person think that they're dealing more damage, even though they may not. U forgot Juggernaut's Headcrush and Hulk's Gamma Crush.

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by BIG BAD MOG
I mash everything. It makes a person think that they're dealing more damage, even though they may not. U forgot Juggernaut's Headcrush and Hulk's Gamma Crush.

:lol: he forgot a lot things..

if ya ask meeh, the scariest masher is giefs crouch-grab :eek:

[BIG BAD MOG]

Originally posted by Th3 0N3


:lol: he forgot a lot things..

if ya ask meeh, the scariest masher is giefs crouch-grab :eek:

Or Dhalsim's throw. Is he punching the guy's face or putting his fingers in the guy's mouth?

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by BIG BAD MOG
Or Dhalsim's throw. Is he punching the guy's face or putting his fingers in the guy's mouth?

i don't know, but Giefs crouch-grab does more damage per mash....

[golba666]

yea i was gonna put juggs but i have my doubts wit that one, i still mash it but it seems to be flying screen that adds hits

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by golba666
yea i was gonna put juggs but i have my doubts wit that one, i still mash it but it seems to be flying screen that adds hits

mashing works, but only from half-screen + distance. so if ya hit em with lp at the tip, ya can mash.

[AsianDemon]

Does Colulssus' grab and Zangiff 360 super grab need any mashing or just the spin of the joystick?

[BIG BAD MOG]

Originally posted by AsianDemon
Does Colulssus' grab and Zangiff 360 super grab need any mashing or just the spin of the joystick?

I just spin the joystick. Cammy's Reverse Shaft breaker and KBA does more if u just rotate as well. Zangief's FAB is self-explainitory.

[Th3 0N3]

the only command grab move that i know of that needs buttons mashing is spiderman's web throw..

[WiLD_DaIGo]

is akuma's pro. super mashable for more damage?
btw felicia's hk throw i think is mashable for more damage...i think

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by WiLD_DaIGo
is akuma's pro. super mashable for more damage?
btw felicia's hk throw i think is mashable for more damage...i think

i think all beam's are mashable to some extend...

any throw that grabs them, and does multiple hits to conflict the actual throw damage can be mashed. for more damage? perhaps not but to get it over with faster...

[rice picker]

man u guys are retarted u forgot sprials throw shit does half damage if u mash.oh i think ive seen a good thread about this before though

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by rice picker
man u guys are retarted u forgot sprials throw shit does half damage if u mash.oh i think ive seen a good thread about this before though

well i've done one in that past, at least posted about it.. but i didn't forget about it.

but like i said before gief's crouch-grab is more damageing.

avg. sqeeze per mash is 7 pts.
spirals punch per mash is 5 pts.

do the math...

[rice picker]

true but when would i ever play with geif?

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by rice picker
true but when would i ever play with geif?

Cable/Geif!? :lol:

[rice picker]

Originally posted by Th3 0N3


Cable/Geif!? :lol:
that would be one wierd ass team

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by rice picker
that would be one wierd ass team

i've used it a few times, so have others..

with Mecha-Gief on throw assist + cable on point is just scary :eek:

[rice picker]

heh ive just never liked gief.just to wierd.i dont like hairy russians.

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by rice picker
i dont like hairy russians.

haha.. meeh either..

but gief is very damaging.. if ya got an assist like doom to back him up to get it, you'll be the one rushing down :p

[rice picker]

he yeah unblockable throws are annoying.i tryed gief before but i ussually get into mecha and cant get back out before something kills me liek a viper beam so i dont bother with him

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by rice picker
he yeah unblockable throws are annoying.i tryed gief before but i ussually get into mecha and cant get back out before something kills me liek a viper beam so i dont bother with him

yea.. of course not against another cable..

but someone like meeh, that is pretty much anti cable; it's a good match up..

[Dasrik]

Originally posted by golba666
Mashable to escape
1)mag tempestYou mean Hyper Grav, right?

Anyway, after flying screen activation you can mash to get up faster. Throws off some people's timing.

Also, not all beam supers are mashable, most notable example being Proton Cannon.

Other supers that aren't mashable but everyone does:
* Lightning Storm
* Photon Array
* HOD

[BIG BAD MOG]

Gief is very good on mecha form. He can punish them pixie characters easily. Cammy, Spiral, IM (not really a pixie though), and even sometimes Magneto. He doesnt get sent to the other side of the screen from those annoying assists like Cammy, CapCom, or BH. He also doesnt get lifted up by assists like Psylocke, Cable, or Cyclops. He can do some pretty good damage, but most ppl will just send out some1 who can punish him easily like Storm, Doom, or Sent. That about his only problem.

[El Maniatico]

My team is Cable Geif And either black heart or Sentinal.

Never lose with that shit :D

.... So dont knock on russians

[jballa1]

i think felicia has a mashing throw the sratching one

and does her QCB-KK require mashing?
and does ken's QCF and QCB KK require mashing too?

[Th3 0N3]

Originally posted by Dasrik
Also, not all beam supers are mashable, most notable example being Proton Cannon.

Other supers that aren't mashable but everyone does:
* Lightning Storm
* Photon Array
* HOD

yea.. i kinda knew that already but didn't point it like ya did..

there was thread awhile back on things that were/were not mashable. i wonder where it is :confused:

[Icy Mike]

When Hulk does the comet super you can mash for a second after you hit the ground and get up before the rest of it connects. Just mash like you're scared because instead of a comet, Hulk is grabbing Maximum Burst.

[LiquiTed]

An absurd reference most peolpe won't get but too damn funny if ya know what it means :D

I was expecting an in-depth review of your Pringles Can Mashing
Technique or are you saving that for next year :p

Ted



Originally posted by Icy Mike
, Hulk is grabbing Maximum Burst.

[LightningStorm]

Ok people don't seem to understand that some of the things you are saying aren't mashable.... really are mashable.

The reason is that mashing them has a different effect than mashing other supers.

For instance... mashing say Charlie's QCF+PP super actually brings out more sonic booms so mashing is obvious there... same goes for hailstorm.... as is with Juggs he actually hits more.

But mashing the LightningStorm, Rogue's GNS, BH's HOD, and a lot of other supers don't actually do more hits but does do more damage because the hits that they do are closer together thereby making the super just a bit faster than before. This is most notable when someone blocks the HOD... mash the hell out of it and it can chip a person FAR worse than if not mashed. Rogue's GNS is also noticably faster. Another thing I've noticed with BH's HOD is if you mash as soon as you do it, the Demons come up sooner, and has the ability to fuck over the timing of someone who tries hop out of the Inferno xx HOD - it can still be done, but requires a bit more precision.

[Dasrik]

Originally posted by LightningStorm
But mashing the LightningStorm, Rogue's GNS, BH's HOD, and a lot of other supers don't actually do more hits but does do more damage because the hits that they do are closer together thereby making the super just a bit faster than before. This is most notable when someone blocks the HOD... mash the hell out of it and it can chip a person FAR worse than if not mashed. Rogue's GNS is also noticably faster. Another thing I've noticed with BH's HOD is if you mash as soon as you do it, the Demons come up sooner, and has the ability to fuck over the timing of someone who tries hop out of the Inferno xx HOD - it can still be done, but requires a bit more precision. Okay, I've never tested Rogue's super, but I HAVE tested Storm's and Blackheart's.

In Storm's case, no, you can never mash the Lightning Storm for more damage. The Lightning Storm actually does more damage when the opponent is FARTHER away - not full screen, but maybe half a character width away. But mashing it does nothing.

Blackheart's supers are ALL pretty much random. You can mash, and it MAY affect the number of hits... or it may not. I mash the shit out of Armageddon, for example, and sometimes I get tons of rocks to hit, and sometimes I get like three rocks to hit and then Cable bounces out and fries me. Grrr... fuckin' BH.

[LightningStorm]

Originally posted by Dasrik
Blackheart's supers are ALL pretty much random. You can mash, and it MAY affect the number of hits... or it may not. I mash the shit out of Armageddon, for example, and sometimes I get tons of rocks to hit, and sometimes I get like three rocks to hit and then Cable bounces out and fries me. Grrr... fuckin' BH.

Yeah.. the Armageddon is a love-hate situation, you either love it or you hate it. Something I've noticed that seems to help with it and it has given me a far better hit rate with it.

When you do it... hold the joystick in the direction that the character is on and mash like crazy. Mashing that one does make more fall out of the sky. And holding the direction seems to make them concentrate more on the character being hit. The only characters I've had fall out of this are Cammy and Servbot.

I found this by just observing that when the Armageddon happens it tends to fall more to one side than the other, so I wondered if holding the stick to one side would help, and it did.

[Dasrik]

Originally posted by LightningStorm
I found this by just observing that when the Armageddon happens it tends to fall more to one side than the other, so I wondered if holding the stick to one side would help, and it did. *nods* I know about this and that's what I do, and I have the highest success rate with it. Still, though, it doesn't ALWAYS work the way I want it to.