RJ-45 Multi Console Cthulhu Arcade Stick Tutorial Ver.2

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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,521
    How many pins were in the extension cable?
    There were 6 pins inside, if I remember correctly, and 7 wires; the last wire was connected to the outer surface of the plug.
    I checked that each of the 6 pins were actually connected to one wire each.
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

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  • NiteWalkerNiteWalker For me it was Friday. Joined: Posts: 1,668
    How did you check? I've been popping open the female end of the extension cord and matching the pins to the wire colors.
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,521
    I cut off the female side, so that I had the male-end-plug, the long cable, and the batch of smaller inner wires spread out in front of me. Used my ghetto conductivity tester (a small breadboard with a couple of wires, a battery, resistor, and an LED) to poke around to check which pin mapped to which wire. That way, I don't have to "mirror" my pin numbers when looking at the female end of the plug to map to the male end.
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

    Looking for:
    CPS2 (green or blue): Hyper SF2
    Naomi GD-ROM: SF Zero3 Upper, Puyo Puyo Fever, Triggerheart Excelica, Ikaruga
  • NiteWalkerNiteWalker For me it was Friday. Joined: Posts: 1,668
    What I do is after popping off the plastic housing of the female end, I plug the connector into the male side. That way I can look at it as if looking at the male end, and easily distinguish the wire colors for the pins.
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  • FreedomGundamFreedomGundam Freedom, ikimasu! Joined: Posts: 2,521
    Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the tip; I'll keep that in mind the next time when (or "if") I have to do another wire.
    Current at-home stick: Hori VLX Kuro (LS-40-01 + PS-14-K)
    Current portable stick: Mad Catz TvC (LS-40-01 + PS-14-KN)
    Current guest-sticks: custom ABS Modular stick (JLF + OBSN-30), custom Saint-stick (Happ/IL Competition)
    Cabinet: custom "Resistor" cabinet (32" LCD, X360, P1=LS-32-01 + PS-14-KN, P2=JLF + OBSC-30)
    Previous sticks: custom Happ CvS2 Double-sticks, custom Happ Hitomi-stick & Xenosaga-stick, custom Sanwa/Seimitsu Neptune-stick and Sylvia-stick, modded Mad Catz TvC, modded Mad Catz Brawlstick, modded Hori FSVX, modded Exar Exaprize

    Looking for:
    CPS2 (green or blue): Hyper SF2
    Naomi GD-ROM: SF Zero3 Upper, Puyo Puyo Fever, Triggerheart Excelica, Ikaruga
  • therobintherobin Robn Rene Joined: Posts: 440
    I just want to let you guys know, after 4 wasted RJ45 plugs and many hours of reading and scratching my head, I finally created a gamecube cable for my MC.

    I was having a lot of trouble because I was using the pin guides on this thread. However, those pinouts did not work for me (and some other combo). The cable I am using I cut from my Hori Soul Calibur II stick (which the MCC mod is in now). In order to find the correct wires needed, I inserted a ethernet cable into the stick, stripped the end and exposed wires 1, 7 and 8. I then cut the end off the hori cable and exposed all the ends and started matching three wires to the ethernet cable until I got a connection. The working result was yellow, red and white. I took the cable back to the multimeter and found those wires match pins 1, 2 and 4 respectively. I tested, verified and reverified this.

    Here is my pinout for gamecube cable. I will re-re-verify later.

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  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    Grab a first party wired controller, and test in a game to see if you can get rumble.
    The pin recommended for power, the green one according to your description, is a +5v voltage source intended for rumble motors. The one you're using is the +3v meant to power the controller. If you can't get the rumble to work on legit controllers, then there may be a blown fuse in your gamecube/wii. But, hey, if it works, go to town.
  • therobintherobin Robn Rene Joined: Posts: 440
    Yes, the rumble works. On both my first party and third party controller. I explicitly tested rumble as part of the troubleshooting when I was making the cable. These wires were the only combo that gave me a working connection to the cube. There is no known defect on my gamecube, AFAIK (It has never given me a problem).
  • therobintherobin Robn Rene Joined: Posts: 440
    Ok I just finished making my PSX cable for my Cthulhu. But I do not have a PSX/PS2 to test it. But I do have the etokki Xbox 360 converter. I plugged the cable into the convert and it worked perfectly on the xbox360. No lag at all.

    And then... I realized I nullified the purpose of both the pad hack and the imp board with the etokki converter. This makes doing MC mods with xbox360 support WAY easier and way cheaper.
  • SA8TER21SA8TER21 Go with the Flow Joined: Posts: 23
    If anyone is wondering about those Neutrik cable end boots. You can get them on Amazon from here. Only 2 colors though, black and silver.

    http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NE8MC-B-Ethercon-Cable-Housing/dp/B00067JSSM/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_c

    http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NE8MC-Ethercon-Housing-Nickel/dp/B00067JSSC/ref=pd_cp_e_2

    They also sell just the Silver pass threw RJ-45 jacks on Amazon aswell. Sorry no black.

    http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NE8FDP-Ethercon-Through-Connector/dp/B00067JSTG/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b


    Hope that helps.
    Happy modding! :D
  • BeWrongBeWrong Hori V3 all the way! Joined: Posts: 314
    thanks for this :)
    BeWrong :)
  • DaikathDaikath Reborn Sega Fanboy Joined: Posts: 61
    I'm really having a hard time getting this crimping to work. I finally managed to learn how to succesfully put in the wires into the right slot of the rj45, I have confimed that the rj45 pins make proper connections to the usb end (im starting with this, but will move onto a saturn and DC cable later). But despite the multimeter saying that there is a connection, my PC won't even see it .

    I now noticed on all my crimped plugs, both pins for both datalines are connected to eachothe, if this is not how its supposed to be, any tips on how to prevent it? I keep short metal tips on the wires and when putting the plug into the crimper, i try and keep the lines pushed in to keep them in place till I press on the crimper to force it all in place. But appearantly it doesnt work.
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    I'm really having a hard time getting this crimping to work.


    Use 2 piece Cat6 plugs. It will make your life much easier.

    Regarding the connection problem, post up a good quality pic of one of your crimps.
  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    So you're removing some of the insulation from the wire before putting it into the connector for crimping? You dont want to do that if you can avoid it. The crimp pins are made with teeth to pierce through the wire insulation so stripping them is usually unnecessary, and the thin wire strands may go someplace you dont want. The only time you want to remove some of the insulation is if the insulated wire is too thick to go into the little channel for crimping (which is not uncommon on thicker, quality USB cables for power and ground)

    If you're seeing a short between any pair of wires, it's not going to work; you must find that short and fix it.
  • rtdzignrtdzign Joined: Posts: 5,176
    I keep short metal tips on the wires and when putting the plug into the crimper
    Don't do that. They will all touch at the end. You need the insulation to keep them apart.
  • therobintherobin Robn Rene Joined: Posts: 440
    How do you guy deal with thick insulation? I just made two NES cables from two old NES controllers I picked up at a garage sale. They were such a bitch to insert because of the thickness. I could get four wires in, then the firth would crumple. It was so frustrating because I would have to cut the tips and start again because the wire would not straighten out again.

    Also is anyone anywhere of compatible issues with the Cthulhu and the NES? I made two cables, but only tested one of my four Cthulhu sticks on two NES consoles. One consistently froze immediately upon connecting to the Cthulhu. The other console worked perfectly. I will test the other Cthulhus and report back when I get a chance.
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    How do you guy deal with thick insulation?


    2 piece Cat6 plugs.
  • DaikathDaikath Reborn Sega Fanboy Joined: Posts: 61
    Awesome , it works. I can go on with the case now lol. Thanks Toodles and Rtdzign. Wil try and get my hands on a cat6e plug later but at least I got it working now.
  • SkrawneySkrawney Joined: Posts: 90
    I found using a razor blade to shave off extra insulation worked fine, it takes a while but keep testing to see if the wire will slip into the boot. I was using a usb cable from an Afterglow controller, they have insulation inside each wire which gave it 0 strength for shoving into a hole so i had to shave them down to get the wires to fit. Just don't push down hard with the razor when you are shaving it, hope this helps some of you.
  • GunsTariqGunsTariq There it is Joined: Posts: 437
    What kind of screws do I need for my RJ-45? Can I pick those up from a place like Lowes/Home Depot?
    Currently play ability is improving....

    Still very much to learn from experienced players

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  • Donovan GuilfoyleDonovan Guilfoyle aka dondon4720 Joined: Posts: 74
    Should I get Stranded or Solid 8P8C crimp connectors?
    Also Should I use T568A or T568B pin out for my Ethernet Pass through cable
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    Should I get Stranded or Solid 8P8C crimp connectors?
    Also Should I use T568A or T568B pin out for my Ethernet Pass through cable


    1) If you mean what RJ45 plugs you should get, I'd say 2piece Cat6 plugs.

    2) You can use any wiring schematic colours you like as long as it all matches up, but the sort used in this guide is standard Type B. Basically follow the colour coding found in the first couple of posts in this thread.
  • therobintherobin Robn Rene Joined: Posts: 440
    Where can we get a bulk of these 2 piece Cat6 plugs for cheap? And where can we get single pieces cheap?
  • GlitchGlitch Kill'em All Johnny Joined: Posts: 204
    Where can we get a bulk of these 2 piece Cat6 plugs for cheap? And where can we get single pieces cheap?
    u can try here but this place is in the UK i think:
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/cat-6-network-rj45-connectors-48920

    or here if ur in the states:
    http://www.providencecable.com/products.asp?cid=4115698

    https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=493176&eventPage=1
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  • GunsTariqGunsTariq There it is Joined: Posts: 437
    Do anyone know what size allenwrench I would need for opening/tightening the socket cap screws on the front stick cover? What size socket cap screws would I need for the stick?

    Here's a picture of the front...

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    Currently play ability is improving....

    Still very much to learn from experienced players

    Fireball...................Jaguar Kicks???
  • GlitchGlitch Kill'em All Johnny Joined: Posts: 204
    Do anyone know what size allenwrench I would need for opening/tightening the socket cap screws on the front stick cover? What size socket cap screws would I need for the stick?

    Here's a picture of the front...
    the allenwrench size u need for to tighten the screws is a 3mm one.
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  • Donovan GuilfoyleDonovan Guilfoyle aka dondon4720 Joined: Posts: 74
    Question: I am going to mod a TE with a kitty and i was wondering instead of drilling a 24mm for the Neutrik in the wire compartment could i use a Ethernet keystone jack and plug my console cables into the keystone jack ?
  • GunsTariqGunsTariq There it is Joined: Posts: 437
    the allenwrench size u need for to tighten the screws is a 3mm one.
    Cool preciate it. I actually bought a hex set today with a size 3mm wrench that can't get seem to fit into the only screw on the stick right now.

    Hate to keep bugging, but where can I find the screws for the allenwrench. Wasn't successful at Lowe's this morning. Would you happen to know what size socket cap screw I would need for the stick? I think the recommended size was 8-32x1/2. The picture only showed one screw that's not coming off.
    Currently play ability is improving....

    Still very much to learn from experienced players

    Fireball...................Jaguar Kicks???
  • ToodlesToodles da Fetus of Gawd! Joined: Posts: 10,778
    Question: I am going to mod a TE with a kitty and i was wondering instead of drilling a 24mm for the Neutrik in the wire compartment could i use a Ethernet keystone jack and plug my console cables into the keystone jack ?
    Could you? I suppose you could but using the back button spot like int he installation guide is really the best way to go all around.
  • Donovan GuilfoyleDonovan Guilfoyle aka dondon4720 Joined: Posts: 74
    Could you? I suppose you could but using the back button spot like int he installation guide is really the best way to go all around.
    I guess i should have asked if it was possible to do instead of could I do it :D, anyway I understand that removing the back button is probably easier than using the cable compartment but I wanted the stick to look as stock as possible.

    Thanks,
  • GlitchGlitch Kill'em All Johnny Joined: Posts: 204
    Cool preciate it. I actually bought a hex set today with a size 3mm wrench that can't get seem to fit into the only screw on the stick right now.

    Hate to keep bugging, but where can I find the screws for the allenwrench. Wasn't successful at Lowe's this morning. Would you happen to know what size socket cap screw I would need for the stick? I think the recommended size was 8-32x1/2. The picture only showed one screw that's not coming off.
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  • djexoticdjexotic Joined: Posts: 79
    RJ45 plug will work with the dreamcast connection right? and is their a wire diagram for it. because i am thinking doing this in mid september for my dreamcast!!!
  • PaperTigrePaperTigre すごい!!!!! Joined: Posts: 2,200
    Yes, the pinout is listed under "Part 5: Pinouts for more cables"
  • djexoticdjexotic Joined: Posts: 79
    does anybody have a image diagram so i can save it into my folder for this build.
  • gahrlinggahrling Better safe than Hori.. Joined: Posts: 3,968
    Can't you just... scroll to the image then right-click to save?
  • DaikathDaikath Reborn Sega Fanboy Joined: Posts: 61
    Ok, have my case finished now. But found a new problem, my Switchcraft RJ-4 seems to not be snug enough to properly connect it. My PC sees my MC Cthulhu properly when I used the internal usb connector, it also sees it when I use the switcraft plug and press hard on both ends.

    Am I using a wrong ethernet plug or is it better if i go look for another switchcraft plug to sit inbetween them?
  • DaikathDaikath Reborn Sega Fanboy Joined: Posts: 61
    Ok,,, something is really off, even with a new female-female rj-45 connector, it does not reckonize my MC Cthulhu. I double checked the connectivity of the ethernet plug and the wires to the soldered wires to the mc cthulhu, they seem to check out. As does a connectivity test on the usb end ehternet end of my other cable.

    Only weird thing seems to be that G, or orange/white also seems to connect with the outside casing of the USB connector panel.

    I'm really at a loss here as to what could be the problem, if anyone knows I'd really like some help. I'm almost at the point of ditching multi console support and just go with a PC/PS3 setup.
  • BlackFlag0BlackFlag0 Joined: Posts: 40
    I'm having some trouble making a SNES cable for my RJ45 jack. I'm away from home and don't have my multimeter with me. The wires for the cable I have are labeled as follows

    GND
    VCC
    SL
    PL
    DA

    I know the ground goes in pin 1 of my rj45 connector and the VCC goes in 8. Can anyone give me some quick help as to where to place the other wires? Thanks!
  • NarrooNarroo Joined: Posts: 115
    Crud. I had some issues soldering (Wire ripped apart, spend a ton of time with the soldering iron trying to remove it.) Now, my PC won't register the board anymore, even through the regular USB port. I think I fried my micro controller.
  • btanouebtanoue Joined: Posts: 20
    Hi,
    I think this was asked before, but I was wondering if there was any update on N64 support.
    Would really like to play Killer Instinct Gold with my new modded stick.

    Is there any reason why it can't be supported? Is it more of a firmware thing or is it a hardware thing?

    Thanks,
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