SRK Newbie Saikyo Dojo Arcade Stick FAQ (Read this before asking questions)

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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Which deal do you guys think is better?
    The HORI MvC3 Stick for $109.99 or the Madcatz SFIV Round 2 TE FightStick for $149.99?

    I'd rather get the Hori. Both contain the same parts anyway, so just save yourself the $40. Unless you really want the extra weight that the TE has.
  • retoxretox Joined: Posts: 17
    Two pounds doesn't seem too bad, thanks for the suggestion! I'll probably order it soon.
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    OKay, I'm wondering if the Top Level Players that are sponsored in whatever fighting game, get free arcade sticks?
    2.)Are those sticks modded/customized to the player's specifications or are they forced to use stock parts?
    I'm curious if they get free sticks like skateboarders get free decks, shoes, etc.
    I've been watching way too much? footage of tournament grand finals and lesser rounds, checking out the players' arcade sticks/set-ups and obviously their gameplay.

    Are the MadCatz sticks better than Hori? I've never thought so, however after seeing so many players using them, I'm beginning to wonder...
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    OKay, I'm wondering if the Top Level Players that are sponsored in whatever fighting game, get free arcade sticks?
    2.)Are those sticks modded/customized to the player's specifications or are they forced to use stock parts?
    I'm curious if they get free sticks like skateboarders get free decks, shoes, etc.
    I've been watching way too much? footage of tournament grand finals and lesser rounds, checking out the players' arcade sticks/set-ups and obviously their gameplay.

    Are the MadCatz sticks better than Hori? I've never thought so, however after seeing so many players using them, I'm beginning to wonder...

    1. Depends on their sponsorship. If they get sponsored by Hori, Mad Catz, Qanba, etc etc, then they'll most likely receive free sticks. Otherwise, no dice. Chances are, the top players that aren't sponsored are using sticks that they themselves purchased.

    2. Depends on the player. Some customize the art, the dimensions, the weight of the box, some use different arcade parts. Some use a bone stock arcade stick and don't modify it at all. But none of these mods will ever give the player an advantage, and certainly don't violate most tournament rules.
  • chad goymerchad goymer Joined: Posts: 4
    Is it normal the start on a stick and just want to go back to my sfxt fightpad??? I do like the stick but after playing with it for over a week my execution is still really suffering (I am aware that it takes time!!) Do u get good players who just cannot adjust even with time???
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Is it normal the start on a stick and just want to go back to my sfxt fightpad??? I do like the stick but after playing with it for over a week my execution is still really suffering (I am aware that it takes time!!) Do u get good players who just cannot adjust even with time???

    It's normal, because it's a difficult transition. NOBODY becomes godlike on a stick in that short a period of time. It took me a few weeks to just START to become comfortable on a stick, and that's not including having to re-learn to do difficult combos involving rapid left-hand inputs. There will be a period where you will just suck because you can't execute, but if you continue with it, you'll transition just fine. It's like learning to play a completely different instrument. It will take awhile for your muscle memory to re-learn your inputs.

    I believe that everybody can adjust with time, but some choose not to. Some players stick with the pad, and have placed well in tournaments (i.e. Fanatiq, Snake Eyes, etc). It's entirely up to you.
  • chad goymerchad goymer Joined: Posts: 4
    It's normal, because it's a difficult transition. NOBODY becomes godlike on a stick in that short a period of time. It took me a few weeks to just START to become comfortable on a stick, and that's not including having to re-learn to do difficult combos involving rapid left-hand inputs. There will be a period where you will just suck because you can't execute, but if you continue with it, you'll transition just fine. It's like learning to play a completely different instrument. It will take awhile for your muscle memory to re-learn your inputs.

    I believe that everybody can adjust with time, but some choose not to. Some players stick with the pad, and have placed well in tournaments (i.e. Fanatiq, Snake Eyes, etc). It's entirely up to you.
    Thank you for the reply,

    I started by picking up the sfxt fightpad as a stop gap and i noticed a very quick improvement playing with this (I was a sf2 genesis player). I have lost multiple matches online when I have dropped moves but after spending 125 on the sfxt pro stick I don't really want to run back to the pad (It is tempting though when I lose to bs stuff on the stick when I drop a move)
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for the reply,

    I started by picking up the sfxt fightpad as a stop gap and i noticed a very quick improvement playing with this (I was a sf2 genesis player). I have lost multiple matches online when I have dropped moves but after spending 125 on the sfxt pro stick I don't really want to run back to the pad (It is tempting though when I lose to bs stuff on the stick when I drop a move)

    Yeah that's going to be happening quite a bit for the next week or two. If you keep at it, I promise you it'll feel more natural to you.

    I spent a majority of my childhood playing SF2 on the SNES. I love that pad to death, I got a mean blister from it, but I could execute whatever I wanted like a boss. But now that I've made the effort to switch to an arcade stick, I'm worthless on a pad now. It's just the way it goes.

    Tbh, 95% of everyone's execution problems in fighting games can be solved by one thing: Practice, practice, practice. No replacement or shortcut for repetition and hard work.
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  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    Is it normal the start on a stick and just want to go back to my sfxt fightpad??? I do like the stick but after playing with it for over a week my execution is still really suffering (I am aware that it takes time!!) Do u get good players who just cannot adjust even with time???

    El Trouble is, as usual, quite right. Practice is your best bet. I have been playing on sticks sine SF2 dropped, and my execution isn't great. Back then you had to deal with faulty joysticks on the cabinets, and adjust your gameplay. Not to mention the buttons would stick, or just not work. I also used the SNES controller and definitely love it still (SuperMetroid and old RPGs still get played on my first owned SNES which I have and still works great.) I use a HORI stick now, and am planning on getting a few MadCatz for Tournaments(When I get decent). O also have the MK tournament edition stick which is an american style stick with concave buttons and a bat style stick.
    Seriously though, the joystick will serve you FAR better than any pad. It's like learning to ride a bike. You may fall off but you still get back on and try again(provided you haven't broken anything).
    Don't get discouraged by losses either. EVERYONE loses at first. Play 10,000 matches and then worry about losing. Maybe not even then. Practice in Training mode is CRUCIAL to execution, but you also need practice with online play against real people and in person if you can find players on your area.

    I also recommend sticking with ONE character and learning their execution well. Then once you are adept with that style (shoto/charge) switch to the other style so you can learn both ways and open up your options for a main/alt. You will also learn how much time it takes to execute moves (yours and an opponents) and once you get into frame data you can use this to your advantage.

    I realize this is a lot of advice, but take what you want and learn from it. I feel it's always better to know as much as possible as it will help you in improving. For instance I am watching VesperArcade's SSFIV tutorial from the first video and though I know quite a bit about SF, I am leaerning MANY things about this engine and FGs in general.

    Finally, youtube some pros playing where you can see their hands. There are quite a few videos on how to hold the stick. You watch and find a grip that is most comfortable to you. This definitely helps your execution. The more calm you remain, the better your entire game will be. If you aren't comfortable, you cannot be completely calm.

    Alright, enough of my over-detailed reply. =o] Just love this place and want to help people as much as possible. Sharing knowledge is FUN!
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  • DKorDKor Punching Bag Joined: Posts: 94
    Grabbed myself a qanba today. Works great. I'm wondering how you guys get your custom faceplates, I'd like to get one :)

    Saw this on the last page but didn't see it answered, so:

    Congratulations on the Qanba! I've been thinking about picking one up. :)

    This thread is all about adding custom art to your stick. Make sure to read the OP, as there are links to photoshop templates for each individual stick. For example, if your Qanba is a Q4 then you'll probably want this photoshop template. You can either download the template and create the custom art yourself, or ask someone else to do it.

    After you have the art, you can print it at a printer, or have someone like Art's Hobbies do it for you (and send you a plexi to go over top of it). After that, replacing the stock art is a pretty straightforward process. Best of luck!
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  • YadiYadi 0'12er Joined: Posts: 255
    what are the easiest characters to play with on xbox 360 controller for sfxt and s4Ae? (dont like ps3's dpad)
    umvc3 teams: Nova,Spencer,Hawkeye , spencer,sentinel,akuma, Hawkeye,Sentinal,Akuma

    Mvc2: jill,Sentinal,captain commando
  • sakabato24sakabato24 Dat アイドルマスター Playah Joined: Posts: 1,671
    what are the easiest characters to play with on xbox 360 controller for sfxt and s4Ae? (dont like ps3's dpad)

    To be honest, it's all up to preference on which character you like. Just learn how to play them efficiently on the controller of your choice, and you should be fine.

    For starters, just try out motion characters, like Ryu, and see if you are comfortable playing motion characters. If not, try charge characters, like Guile, and see if you feel more comfortable playing charge characters on the 360 Pad.

    Sorry if this answer is vague, but the question is vague within itself and susceptible to a lot of open-ended answers.
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  • YadiYadi 0'12er Joined: Posts: 255
    To be honest, it's all up to preference on which character you like. Just learn how to play them efficiently on the controller of your choice, and you should be fine.

    For starters, just try out motion characters, like Ryu, and see if you are comfortable playing motion characters. If not, try charge characters, like Guile, and see if you feel more comfortable playing charge characters on the 360 Pad.

    Sorry if this answer is vague, but the question is vague within itself and susceptible to a lot of open-ended answers.

    I did say it pretty vague i meant which characters could you most likely skip buttons for / which characters rely the least on links because i've fighter like mvc2 etc so my are perfect but i just started playing street fighter and my links arent as tight because its kinda akward plinking on the 360 controller..
    umvc3 teams: Nova,Spencer,Hawkeye , spencer,sentinel,akuma, Hawkeye,Sentinal,Akuma

    Mvc2: jill,Sentinal,captain commando
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    OKay, need some opinions based on experience.
    I have a UMvC3 HORI stick and it's great. I just dislike where the start button is placed.
    I am considering the MC SFxT VS Edition stick. I like the fact you can connect to another same model.
    But then there is the HoRI SC V V 5 stick which has a cover for the start button similar to the eject button on the Steel Battalion controller(I still have mine).

    Damn, Arcade sticks are just so sexy, I'm looking at them and thinking the Pokemon motto (Gotta Get 'Em All). =>]
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  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    I'm curious if anyone knows what type of gates were on the actual arcade machines of X-MenvsSF, MvSF, SFA series, SF2.
    I have a square gate and circular motions in buffers are giving me trouble.
    I know the pros swear by squares. I guess I need to get an octagonal and see what works best for me.
    What are the best octagonal gate sticks? I have read Darksakul's awesome thread, just want some opinions, please.
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Like previously mentioned in the other post, most arcades used circle gates with bat tops.

    Best octagonal sticks are the standard stuff you'd get from Sanwa or Seimitsu, both are high quality manufacturers, and the only difference between them is preference.
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    Like previously mentioned in the other post, most arcades used circle gates with bat tops.

    Best octagonal sticks are the standard stuff you'd get from Sanwa or Seimitsu, both are high quality manufacturers, and the only difference between them is preference.

    So you'd have to mod a stick to get an Octagonal gate?
    Are there sticks that have octagonals as stock, that are comparable to MCZ and Hori?
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  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    So you'd have to mod a stick to get an Octagonal gate?
    Are there sticks that have octagonals as stock, that are comparable to MCZ and Hori?
    Any mass market arcade stick from mad catz/hori that uses a Sanwa JLF (like all of them) will have a square gate stock. If you want octo you'll have to mod it.
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  • Gracias Mi AmigoGracias Mi Amigo Some1 saidmy XBLGT was the ideals of Hitler o.O Joined: Posts: 176
    So you'd have to mod a stick to get an Octagonal gate?
    Are there sticks that have octagonals as stock, that are comparable to MCZ and Hori?

    You shouldn't waste your time with the octa gate. I went out and bought the octa gate, modded my stick and tested the waters.
    Pros
    The circular motions are cake
    blocking HIGH is easier because of the high grove
    Fadc seems easier due to the high grove
    the biggest thing for me is that you dont perform the game shortcuts by mistake... NYCE
    Cons
    Blocking low seems to not work sometimes and you have to learn the new Dback position because of the slant you could be in Up back position.
    charge characters seems to suffer
    Not Sure but i think it has a bigger neutral range then the square gate
    it has a bigger looser feeling
    Some moves are harder to perform

    The list goes on in the cons but its not worth it, just prac making smaller circular motions and i believe you shouldnt be riding the gate anyway its shunned like its older brother "Mashing" ... But ultimately you can try it for your self to only be disappointed
  • Gracias Mi AmigoGracias Mi Amigo Some1 saidmy XBLGT was the ideals of Hitler o.O Joined: Posts: 176
    Crouch teching has never been a problem but all of a sudden it is. im trying to find vids on it but i cant or it doesnt explain it the way i need to hear it. i usually hit throw everytime the peron hits but then i get thrown ... any help
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    So you'd have to mod a stick to get an Octagonal gate?
    Are there sticks that have octagonals as stock, that are comparable to MCZ and Hori?

    Like TB said in the previous post, no stick comes stock with an octagonal. The new standard is the Sanwa JLF square gate (I'm not sure why this is the standard, it's not that great of a stick). You'll have to install the octagonal gate yourself, but it's pretty easy to do so, as long as you have basic knowledge on how to use tools.
  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    The new standard is the Sanwa JLF square gate (I'm not sure why this is the standard, it's not that great of a stick).
    Hater!
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Crouch teching has never been a problem but all of a sudden it is. im trying to find vids on it but i cant or it doesnt explain it the way i need to hear it. i usually hit throw everytime the peron hits but then i get thrown ... any help

    You're timing it wrong. When you crouch-tech, you have less time to tech a throw as opposed to when you stand tech, so you need to time it slightly later than a stand-tech. Go into training mode, set your dummy to do a basic 1 or 2 hit cr.jabs, and then throw. When you play it back, practice teching it.

    Also, this is the wrong thread to post questions like this.
    Hater!

    It's not like I'm vehemently opposed to Sanwa, I'm more curious as to why it became THE standard for all arcade sticks instead of say....Seimitsu LS-32s, both of which are found on Jap arcade cabinets. Is it Mad Catz set the trend? Is Sanwa paying off major stick makers handsomely? What's the deal?
  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    The JLF was already the more popular choice in customs before the Madcatz fightstick line. Plus the Hori line was almost always Sanwa except for special editions or budget sticks. LS32s were generally more niche, though certainly well-loved.

    Having seen how both LS-32s and JLFs hold up in arcades after long periods of time, to me choosing the JLF is a no-brainer. JLFs really take abuse better than LS-32s.
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  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    OKay, need some opinions based on experience.
    I have a UMvC3 HORI stick and it's good. I just dislike where the start button is placed.
    I am considering the MCZ SFxT VS Edition stick. I like the fact you can connect to another same model.
    But then there is the HoRI SC V V 5 stick which has a cover for the start button similar to the eject button on the Steel Battalion controller(I still have mine).


    Damn, Arcade sticks are just so sexy, I'm looking at them and thinking the Pokemon motto (Gotta Get 'Em All). =>]

    Pardon the bump, but I didn't get a reply.
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  • HarperlarpHarperlarp Joined: Posts: 3
    Hey guys I'm new here, wish I'd found this place ages ago. I've been playing beat em ups for almost 20 years now, I started on the original Mortal Kombat and have been playing tekken, soul calibur, and street fighter along the way and I finally came to the realisation that I'm technically a noob so I decided to learn all the ins and outs and techniques for modern fighters. I'm playing SFxT at the mo and reckon its about time I started using an arcade stick since anyone who's half serious about fighters seems to use them. I want a decent stick but am not sure about spending £150 on one when the next gen consoles are surely only a year or two away. Is it worth it at this late stage in this current gen of consoles?
  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    Pardon the bump, but I didn't get a reply.
    There is a link to reviews in the first post of this thread. Other than that, buy the one you think looks cooler.
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  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    There is a link to reviews in the first post of this thread. Other than that, buy the one you think looks cooler.

    Thanks. I was just looking for personal experience from players here, in case anyone already has one of these.
    :D
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  • SHOOTtheMoonSHOOTtheMoon Lvl.42 archscrub Joined: Posts: 3
    not sure if an odd question but I just got my first joystick. I decided on a Hrap v3-sa but after reading this thread about the new hori edge having a longer lifetime i got a bit worried. how long exactly does a pcb last before it needs replacing? and is it usually cheaper to replace the part or the whole thing? I got my stick for $130 cdn before taxes and shipping. Do ta's or qanba q4s ast longer? Thanks!
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    not sure if an odd question but I just got my first joystick. I decided on a Hrap v3-sa but after reading this thread about the new hori edge having a longer lifetime i got a bit worried. how long exactly does a pcb last before it needs replacing? and is it usually cheaper to replace the part or the whole thing? I got my stick for $130 cdn before taxes and shipping. Do ta's or qanba q4s ast longer? Thanks!

    I don't think either stick has been around long enough in order to verify their statements of increased durability and reliability. It sounds like marketing BS to me.
  • SPECTERLIGHTSPECTERLIGHT Chimes At Midnight Joined: Posts: 702
    I am debating on buying the SSFIV TE S, The Soul Edition SCV, or going HORI and getting their SCV stick. I have an import Hori UMvC3 PRAP VX SA and it's great, yet the start and back button placement are not to my liking and I am not yet into modding.
    In another thread, someone mentioned that the entire TE and TE S family were problematic.
    Is there any credibility to this statement?
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  • WannabeprepWannabeprep Curly. Joined: Posts: 4
    Hello SRK. I hope I'm posting this in the correct spot, after reading the new members rules I don't think my situation dictates the need for it's own individual thread... anywho. I've been going to locals every week and slowly been getting more and more into the scene there. The main game I play is UMvC3 and I tend to fare very well with everyone there (I win the majority of my matches). However, I can't help but feel out of place because everyone there uses Arcade Sticks, while I use a standard 360 controller... also worth noting that I don't use the D-pad, but the analog stick on the controller. I don't tend to drop combos and I use a fairly high execution based team (Wesker, Magneto, Vergil). Stuff like Magneto's full screen Magnetic Blast Carry combos and Hyper Grav corner loops are second nature for me, as well as Vergil's sword loops. Regardless, the other people I play against call me crazy for not using an Arcade Stick and they say it's "absolutely necessary". I'm torn. I want to compete to the best of my ability and the stick looks tempting, but if I purchase a stick It'll most likely be the Madcatz MLG Arcade Stick based off of the Madcatz Street Fighter 4 TE line of arcade sticks that were considered tournament staples. The main problem being they run $159.99 I believe and I don't want to make the investment unless it will help me compete better with my peers, or at the very least understand their thoughts on why an Arcade Stick is a "necessity". Also, with the recent announcements of the next generation consoles on the way by this upcoming holiday season should I just wait it out at this point? Thanks in advance for any guidance or advice you can provide me!
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  • konkretekonkrete NCV Joined: Posts: 2,376
    People who tell you that you need to play on x controller are sheep. The real question is, are you comfortable using what you currently are? There is no reason to switch if the answer to that question is "yes."

    As for next gen, one would hope older controllers will still work, but there is no word about that at all.
  • KyehlarKyehlar Purrrfect Joined: Posts: 99
    Here's an odd question, or it may be a common question. Either way, I'm going to ask it.

    I recently got an arcade stick, and I'm having difficulty with my fireball and dragon punch movements from the left-hand (P1) side. When I'm on the right-hand (P2) side, I have little to no difficulty whatsoever pulling off the moves, and even the special/ultras in SSFIV AE. But as a Cammy player, that's a big part of my arsenal, if I'm stuck on the P1 side. I have tried the Square, Octagon, and Circular gate on my stick, and have found the circular to be the most comfortable. Is it simply a matter of practice practice practice, or is there something I'm doing wrong?

    I realize this would probably be easier if there was some replay data, but I'm afraid I am incapable of providing such. Any tips of the trade?
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's an odd question, or it may be a common question. Either way, I'm going to ask it.

    I recently got an arcade stick, and I'm having difficulty with my fireball and dragon punch movements from the left-hand (P1) side. When I'm on the right-hand (P2) side, I have little to no difficulty whatsoever pulling off the moves, and even the special/ultras in SSFIV AE. But as a Cammy player, that's a big part of my arsenal, if I'm stuck on the P1 side. I have tried the Square, Octagon, and Circular gate on my stick, and have found the circular to be the most comfortable. Is it simply a matter of practice practice practice, or is there something I'm doing wrong?

    I realize this would probably be easier if there was some replay data, but I'm afraid I am incapable of providing such. Any tips of the trade?

    It's a common problem. Most people have a preferred side for execution. I also execute better on P2 than P1. It probably has to do with the fact that you can use more thumb control for P2 movements, but more finger movements are required for P1.

    No secret to it other than practice, practice, practice.
  • KyehlarKyehlar Purrrfect Joined: Posts: 99
    It's a common problem. Most people have a preferred side for execution. I also execute better on P2 than P1. It probably has to do with the fact that you can use more thumb control for P2 movements, but more finger movements are required for P1.

    No secret to it other than practice, practice, practice.
    That's what I figured... thanks for the quick response.
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  • ShiroStarXShiroStarX Joined: Posts: 13
    I have a basic question. What are the numbered layouts for the direction for the joystick/ pad. For example, I know that 2 is down I think but what directions are 1,3,4,5,6 etc. ?
  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
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    Take a look at those numbers. Now grab your stick, put it on your lap, and look down at it. That's the numbered system.

    1 = down-left. 2 = straight down. 3= down-right. 4 = left. 5 = neutral. 6 = right. etc etc etc.

    So a DP motion from P1 side would be 6-2-3. DP motion from P2 side would be 4-2-1. Get it?
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  • eltroubleeltrouble Joined: Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭✭
    Hi everyone, i'm not sure if i'm in the right place, but anyway if i im not sorry, im from Portugal and i want to buy a cheap Fightstick, it cane be use my price it's around 110usd no more up if same one got one to sell please contact me.

    Wrong place. And before you start asking more questions or creating more posts, I recommend that you actually read the "Arcade Stick" FAQs in this Newbie Section, as well as in Tech Talk.
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    So i just got a Tatsunoko vs Capcom Arcade Stick about 2 months ago. I use hook it to my PS3 Using a Mayflash Wii to USB adapter. For a while now it was very good until this morning. After about 30 mins of playtime, it would disconnect itself or it will always go down even if I press up(sorry, i cant find a better way to describe it). I bought a second adapter because i thought it would do the trick but sadly it didn't. Does anyone know how to fix this?
  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    It sounds to me like the PCB died, but try posting your problem in Tech Talk.
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  • superscrubsuperscrub Joined: Posts: 27
    My cousin left a 2009 Mad Catz SE stick at my house. The stick plugs in fine and I can play but the X button is 90% unresponsive while the further away buttons like RB work mostly fine.

    If I buy some Sanwa buttons + joystick and watch the youtube how to videos, will this modded stick last 2-3 years?

    Because I heard that after a few years the microchips go bad. So I'm wondering if the electronics will go bad soon since the stick is old anyway, regardless of any button/joystick replacement on my part.
  • Trouble BrewingTrouble Brewing Salty about Ultra Joined: Posts: 4,495 mod
    The Sanwa buttons/stick should last most users at 2-3 years (or much longer even depending on use) without much concern. The electronics in the SE are sort of a crap shoot. I can't promise you they will last that long for sure, but usually it's not a bad bet.

    The worse case scenario you should factor for is buying an easy to install with youtube PCB replacement at some point in the future. If you like the case well enough.
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  • d3vd3v #MAXCPM Fiber Override Joined: Posts: 24,272 mod
    Alot of these repair questions should really be posted in the Tech Talk thread since there are more folks better equipped to address them there.
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  • HayTuxHayTux Joined: Posts: 78
    Okay, put down your pitch forks. I've already read the awesome "Which arcade stick" thread, but I've narrowed my options to two and I can't decide between them. I've narrowed it down to the MLG Fightstick by Madcatz or the HRAP VX Kai from Hori.
    Links to both:
    MLG Fightstick: http://store.gameshark.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=5228&idCategory=286
    Hori Kai: http://stores.horiusa.com/-strse-160/Xbox-360-Real-Arcade/Detail.bok
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    I bought a Brawl Stick ( updated electronics compared to madcatz SE ) that already has modded sanwa stick + sanwa buttons inside, right here on SRK for the same price as sanwa parts by themselves. Very happy with my purchase.

    Now for the noob question. There's sort of a sticky substance on top of 2 buttons + on part of the usb cord. It's not a big deal, button is still ultra-responsive and works fine. Just wondering if it's safe to use a wet tissue to scrub off the sticky stuff on the buttons without removing them. Or do I really need to open the case, remove the buttons and clean them outside? I'm not going to bother cleaning the cord since I don't need to touch that part anyway.
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