MAS Systems Official Thread

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  • cammy-whitecammy-white Joined: Posts: 748
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    How does the Xbox 360 case look and where is the Guide button located? Also, is there a mini-sized Xbox 360 case?

    There are pictures posted above of what they look like. The guide button is between the start and select/coin/back button. There is a mini version of the case.

    - MAS Systems
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    ArcadeShock.com is one of our most loyal dealers. The design that you see there is unique to our dealer only, and must be purchased through ArcadeShock.

    - MAS Systems
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    out of stock though
    ssf4ae tier list regarding Gen:

    D Proto: and where is Gen?
    oORYUOo: you cannot tier what you cannot see
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    The black 360 looks very sleek! Sleek old-school feel FTW.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    out of stock though

    You're right, I hadn't noticed that. How many actually want to buy this controller? If there's enough interest in them, I can definitely talk to ArcadeShock directly and see if they're interested in re-stocking. It wouldn't be a problem at all.

    - MAS Systems

    P.S.

    Short version: We're releasing blank templates of our controller layouts. Keep checking the original post as they should be up within the next day or so.

    Long version: Just a heads up for anyone who may be interested. Traditionally, MAS Systems has been hesistant to allow others to use our templates for customizing their own face, but I've been receiving a lot of questions regarding blank templates lately. I've talked this over with the engineer, who I wouldn't have expected to be very interested, but as it seems, because of the direct feedback that I receive from you guys, I've managed to successfully persaude him into providing you all with a template! Expect a file to be available for use within the next day or so on the original post. Thanks for all the great feedback and questions everyone! Remember, you're always free to ask me any question at all, or suggest something you would like to see from MAS Systems. We always appreciate the feedback we receive, and the buyer's interest is of the utmost importance to us. Thanks for your time.

    We do ask that you refrain from using anything copyrighted (unless it's okay to do this like with streetfighter or other things that I'm not aware of), only fan-based art or something that isn't copyrighted, or just create your own, but now you will have an exact template to work with. Thanks for your interest in MAS controllers!
  • kubebotkubebot Large Member Joined: Posts: 1,269
    ArcadeShock.com is one of our most loyal dealers. The design that you see there is unique to our dealer only, and must be purchased through ArcadeShock.

    - MAS Systems

    I tried last August to contact Arcadeshock for that template.....never heard back. So I made my own somewhat inspired by the steel plate design. Of course, it's just an image mishmash created from some Deviantart I found.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    I tried last August to contact Arcadeshock for that template.....never heard back. So I made my own somewhat inspired by the steel plate design. Of course, it's just an image mishmash created from some Deviantart I found.

    Were you interested in purchasing that specific controller though? If so, I may be able to get more in stock for you as well as others who are interested. If it's only for the template though, it's not very likely I can get that for you. I will definitely mention it though, but there's no guarantees.

    - MAS Systems
  • Cracka JCracka J Race-Ism™ Joined: Posts: 1,889
    Question regarding the blank cases.
    I noticed you offer 6 & 8 button configurations according to the pictures, so is this something we'd be able to specify when ordering a blank case?
    Also would we be able to opt to remove the select/start buttons from the face as well? In other words, not have those holes drilled?

    Reason being those buttons can start costing you matches in competitive play since there's no lockout switch like the madcatz TE's. Anyone ordering blank should be more then capable of drilling a few holes on the side of the case to put these buttons on, since there is a much much lower chance of that happening when the button are located off of the face of the stick.

    So yeah just basically curious if there is some flexibility to the blank cases being offered, or if they are set in one specific design.
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  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    First of all, I just wanna say that MAS sticks are just plain awesome. I'll gladly take a MAS stick over an unmodified Japanese stick anyday.

    However, the only thing that bothers me is that since MAS Systems uses Happ controls which unfortunately has gone down in quality over the last couple of years.

    The best Happ stick is/was the perfect 360, and last from what i heard, there were some calibration problems. not sure have that been fixed yet.

    The Happ competition stick is garbage. You'll lose your diagonals within a week or so.

    What I was wondering though is that would MAS Systems ever use IL sticks? Its pretty much identical to Happ controls but doesnt crap out.
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    D Proto: and where is Gen?
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  • IzagaiaIzagaia Where eagles dare to fly... Joined: Posts: 175
    The MAS Pro-Sticks I own have painted cases with your laminate print on the face. I have seen some case makers that use a sort of plastic-coated or wooden panel that has a thin hard plastic shell over the exposed side. Given the new trend to plexi-protected art so that users can easily customize and protect their investments, do you think you could forsee doing or offering similar options such as a the plastic-coated sides and plexi top panel? I might be mistaken, but it appeared as if the stick you manufactured, with the all-black face and blue buttons/handle, that you said could not be purchased by the general public, had that sort of plastic-coated wood or unpainted casing.
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  • EvilSamuraiEvilSamurai Joined: Posts: 2,668
    ^
    the overlays that arcade-in-a-box and others use are coated with polycarbonate, which is a plastic made from artificial estrogen. It's not something you want to have your hands on at all times.

    MAS uses vinyl overlays if I remember correctly which I certainly would prefer to polycarbonate.
  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex Blond Kanye Status Joined: Posts: 8,156
    Does MAS sell supernovas through ebay? I saw some super gun set ups complete with sticks that looked exactly like MAS but with out the brand name.

  • MezzoForteMezzoForte War.Cult.Supremacy Joined: Posts: 427
    Yeah, that's MAS stuff. The two MAS sticks that I have (I ordered blanks) were ordered through eBay and I was communicating with a rep from them and everything, they do have an eBay front.
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  • Pablo_the_MexPablo_the_Mex Blond Kanye Status Joined: Posts: 8,156
    Yeah, that's MAS stuff. The two MAS sticks that I have (I ordered blanks) were ordered through eBay and I was communicating with a rep from them and everything, they do have an eBay front.

    OK sounds good. At first I was a little put off because they look exactly like MAS parts, but no MAS sticker to be seen anywhere. They looked awesome but wasn't sure if it was a damn good knock off or not. Might need to get one of those some time.

  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Question regarding the blank cases.
    I noticed you offer 6 & 8 button configurations according to the pictures, so is this something we'd be able to specify when ordering a blank case?
    Also would we be able to opt to remove the select/start buttons from the face as well? In other words, not have those holes drilled?

    Reason being those buttons can start costing you matches in competitive play since there's no lockout switch like the madcatz TE's. Anyone ordering blank should be more then capable of drilling a few holes on the side of the case to put these buttons on, since there is a much much lower chance of that happening when the button are located off of the face of the stick.

    So yeah just basically curious if there is some flexibility to the blank cases being offered, or if they are set in one specific design.

    Blank cases come in both 6 button and 8 button layouts, respectively they are 8 button and 10 button layouts for us though, because we include start and select. We can do a face without start and select, but since we don?t have any faces that would work with a layout like that, you would have to send in one of your own. There is flexibility, although we?ve never had to do anything like this before, I don?t believe, but we?re trying a lot of new things lately. I understand what you want, so you can just PM me about it if you want. Be sure to use the format I have on the original post.
    First of all, I just wanna say that MAS sticks are just plain awesome. I'll gladly take a MAS stick over an unmodified Japanese stick anyday.

    However, the only thing that bothers me is that since MAS Systems uses Happ controls which unfortunately has gone down in quality over the last couple of years.

    The best Happ stick is/was the perfect 360, and last from what i heard, there were some calibration problems. not sure have that been fixed yet.

    The Happ competition stick is garbage. You'll lose your diagonals within a week or so.

    What I was wondering though is that would MAS Systems ever use IL sticks? Its pretty much identical to Happ controls but doesnt crap out.

    That?s something we have not looked into yet, but I?ll be sure to mention it to the engineer. It?s hard to find time to actually sit down and talk about changes since he?s always so busy.
    The MAS Pro-Sticks I own have painted cases with your laminate print on the face. I have seen some case makers that use a sort of plastic-coated or wooden panel that has a thin hard plastic shell over the exposed side. Given the new trend to plexi-protected art so that users can easily customize and protect their investments, do you think you could forsee doing or offering similar options such as a the plastic-coated sides and plexi top panel? I might be mistaken, but it appeared as if the stick you manufactured, with the all-black face and blue buttons/handle, that you said could not be purchased by the general public, had that sort of plastic-coated wood or unpainted casing.

    Sorry, plexi-glass is just way too much work for us to be able to do. We would love to make a controller like that, but the problem is we have way too many people who would want one, and there are only so many of us here at MAS Systems. Being able to mass produce a reasonably made product is what we're aiming for.

    There is only paint on the wood. Nothing else.
    Does MAS sell supernovas through ebay? I saw some super gun set ups complete with sticks that looked exactly like MAS but with out the brand name.

    I don?t think we?ve been selling SuperNovas on eBay, or much of anything else, lately. Unless the seller had massystems in their name, I?m not sure who they are, as it could also be one of our dealers. I?m not sure though.

    EDIT: It's very likely that you were talking to one of our dealers.

    However, we do plan on selling stuff on eBay very soon actually (I volunteered to set that up). If some of you would rather purchase it through eBay for whatever reason, let me know what you would like to see. However, I think it would only be a ?buy now? shop with all of our selections. I opted to do something like this rather than a website, but eventually we?ll have to get a website going as well.

    - MAS Systems
  • MezzoForteMezzoForte War.Cult.Supremacy Joined: Posts: 427
    http://stores.ebay.com/World-Amusement

    That's the eBay vendor I ordered my stuff from. My sticks were completely made to order, custom face and everything. Perhaps one of your guys' vendors is more invested in MAS than you know? lol.
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  • CiberneticoCibernetico Joined: Posts: 307
    Good thread. I've had a Mas Stick for a while now that I bought at a Chinatown store. It has that worthless digital button that does not do anything at all. Currently getting a 360/PC converter shipped to me so I can use it with my 360.

    I will say one thing though and it has been years since this happened to me. I remember I called in and a lady picked up. She was nice and all and was really great to work with. When I put my order in(for a PS2/DC Mas Stick) I decided to pay with a MO since stuff like PP wasn't around and I really didn't trust giving out my card number over the phone for anything.

    Long story short, I sent in the money but never got my stick. I went through so much probs back and forth between the bank and Mas(they claimed the order was never put in). I ended up losing about $140 and got nothing. Just really felt like putting that here since the rep is here. But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you guys are bad. It's that whenever someone brings up Mas or I see my current stick, I always remember that damn experience.
  • kubebotkubebot Large Member Joined: Posts: 1,269
    Yeah I was only interested in the template since I already had the box.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    http://stores.ebay.com/World-Amusement

    That's the eBay vendor I ordered my stuff from. My sticks were completely made to order, custom face and everything. Perhaps one of your guys' vendors is more invested in MAS than you know? lol.

    We do not recognize that username, nor are we affliated with anything close to that.
    Good thread. I've had a Mas Stick for a while now that I bought at a Chinatown store. It has that worthless digital button that does not do anything at all. Currently getting a 360/PC converter shipped to me so I can use it with my 360.

    I will say one thing though and it has been years since this happened to me. I remember I called in and a lady picked up. She was nice and all and was really great to work with. When I put my order in(for a PS2/DC Mas Stick) I decided to pay with a MO since stuff like PP wasn't around and I really didn't trust giving out my card number over the phone for anything.

    Long story short, I sent in the money but never got my stick. I went through so much probs back and forth between the bank and Mas(they claimed the order was never put in). I ended up losing about $140 and got nothing. Just really felt like putting that here since the rep is here. But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you guys are bad. It's that whenever someone brings up Mas or I see my current stick, I always remember that damn experience.

    I'm really sorry that happened to you. However, if the order was never put in, that means we never received your money order i.e something happened to it before it reached us. If you would like to purchase from us again though, you would be more than welcome to.

    - MAS Systems
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    Somebody's having a bad day...
  • cammy-whitecammy-white Joined: Posts: 748
    So, I have a question for MAS Systems. Why are you joysticks such pieces of shit? I have repaired many mas joysticks. They were flaky at best when they had a PCB. Now a days they stick one or more SX chips together, solder the common pins together, and then solder the tiniest wire they could find from the pins to controller cords/ microswitches. I have seen a new MAS stick (nasty chips soldered together crap) go bad in less than a month. Wanna know why? NO STRAIN RELIEF. These bastards are so cheap they didn't even bother to secure the controller cords to the case. If you have 115 dollars to flush down the shitter buy a MAS stick. The stories of them being good are long since no longer the case.

    Or you could stop being a jackass and just put hotglue on the wire? People are pretty dumb all sticks have issue's after prolonged use even the TE Stick, if you don't remember round 1 and round2 there were even sticks that had the microswitches die out, It just happens it's not expensive to replace a part when you have the stick, Stop being over dramatical because of your bad experiences doesn't seem many others have had that experience also, I opened many mas stick's the wires always seem secure to me
  • Cracka JCracka J Race-Ism™ Joined: Posts: 1,889
    We can do a face without start and select, but since we don?t have any faces that would work with a layout like that, you would have to send in one of your own.

    Ok, so by face I'm assuming you just mean the art that would be applied to the top of the stick, which I'd be designing without the graphics for the select and start buttons. That's fine by me.

    Just another quickie on the blank cases also, because most people here when they sell "blank", you will get an unfinished case which you basically paint or stain yourself. Since you're asking for a face design, I'm now curious if the blank cases come similar to a finished mas case, with the side paint applied. Basically like a finished mas stick without the pcb, buttons, and stick added. If that's the case, that's a pretty hot deal for $60.

    Again I'm not sure, so that's why I'm asking. I have a feeling you guys will do some good business with blank cases here if that's what you get though :)
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  • MezzoForteMezzoForte War.Cult.Supremacy Joined: Posts: 427
    Just another quickie on the blank cases also, because most people here when they sell "blank", you will get an unfinished case which you basically paint or stain yourself. Since you're asking for a face design, I'm now curious if the blank cases come similar to a finished mas case, with the side paint applied. Basically like a finished mas stick without the pcb, buttons, and stick added. If that's the case, that's a pretty hot deal for $60.

    I can confirm this. Although it's strange that MAS doesn't recognize the dudes I got my sticks from, what I got exactly was two mini MAS "blanks" with the custom overlay (really just a modified faux-Capcom control panel design) with the painted-black sides, unfinished but hey that's how they've always been.

    edit: although I can't comment on Grego's harsh ass rant since I've never had a "OEM" MAS before, based on the pictures I've seen of stock internals I will say that perhaps the fastening of said parts could be better done. It's a legitimate area needing improvement, even if the dude's post was fucked up. Maybe you guys can look into designing a PCB using your existing chips just for the sake of having something that can be fastened more effectively?
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  • GregoGrego FUCK SALT! Joined: Posts: 364
    That rant is the result of having to replace the electronics of every MAS stick in Michigan. And its well deserved, MAS is garbage.
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  • GregoGrego FUCK SALT! Joined: Posts: 364
    Or you could stop being a jackass and just put hotglue on the wire? People are pretty dumb all sticks have issue's after prolonged use even the TE Stick, if you don't remember round 1 and round2 there were even sticks that had the microswitches die out, It just happens it's not expensive to replace a part when you have the stick, Stop being over dramatical because of your bad experiences doesn't seem many others have had that experience also, I opened many mas stick's the wires always seem secure to me

    They weren't my MAS sticks, I was repairing people in michigans. And having the wires from the controller cord going directly to some chips is about as ghetto as it gets. I have a degree in computer engineering and do quite a bit of my own electronics and I know a bad design when I see one. You should think about what you say, since maybe Im just trying to give people a heads up on a scam.
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  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Ok, so by face I'm assuming you just mean the art that would be applied to the top of the stick, which I'd be designing without the graphics for the select and start buttons. That's fine by me.

    Just another quickie on the blank cases also, because most people here when they sell "blank", you will get an unfinished case which you basically paint or stain yourself. Since you're asking for a face design, I'm now curious if the blank cases come similar to a finished mas case, with the side paint applied. Basically like a finished mas stick without the pcb, buttons, and stick added. If that's the case, that's a pretty hot deal for $60.

    Again I'm not sure, so that's why I'm asking. I have a feeling you guys will do some good business with blank cases here if that's what you get though :)

    That's exactly what we offer. :) Just to say it again: a blank case comes with a finished frame meaning painted sides, artwork (or standard design), and t-molding. I should have some blank templates up by later today for custom art.
    I can confirm this. Although it's strange that MAS doesn't recognize the dudes I got my sticks from, what I got exactly was two mini MAS "blanks" with the custom overlay (really just a modified faux-Capcom control panel design) with the painted-black sides, unfinished but hey that's how they've always been.

    edit: although I can't comment on Grego's harsh ass rant since I've never had a "OEM" MAS before, based on the pictures I've seen of stock internals I will say that perhaps the fastening of said parts could be better done. It's a legitimate area needing improvement, even if the dude's post was fucked up. Maybe you guys can look into designing a PCB using your existing chips just for the sake of having something that can be fastened more effectively?

    Also, thanks for your kind words on the subject. The reason we do what we do is because of cost. PCB's were costing us a lot, and coupled with the hard economic times, it's no longer possible to maintain upkeep along with how much we had to spend. The PIC's work just as intended though, and shouldn't be of any problem; the engineer will test each and every one of them, and we rarely ever receive complaints. It's not easy to make 10-15 controllers a day, with only one person making them, while still trying to maintain the quality that we do.

    Often times, others will bash something without trying to understand the reasons for it. He just throws out the fact that he has a degree, and then uses that to justify that he knows something. There is no reason for his anger, and we don't scam people. We've been in business for well over 20 years, and I assure you, if we scammed other people, I wouldn't be here right now for obvious reasons. I'm pretty much speechless on what to say. Thanks again for putting it nicely.

    Also, just to add to things, when something goes wrong like the chip going bad, if it's our fault, we'll fix it for you. We don't hold you accountable for anything that's our fault. We have a warranty that lasts six months, after that there's a very small fee to fix it, depending on what the problem is., only if you mess around with it and it no longer works, then it's pretty much your fault. Quite obvious (but even then, we may still be able to fix it for you!). It's not like we leave you out in the cold with a broken controller and now with $115+ less in your bank account. WE DON'T SCAM PEOPLE!

    - MAS Systems
  • GregoGrego FUCK SALT! Joined: Posts: 364
    No I can understand perfectly why people cut costs. To make more money. And I'm telling you that multiple IC's soldered to each other and then flopping around in a stick is a bad design. It wears out, very quickly. In any quality electronics design cords are secured at some point. Moving wire's become brittle and eventually your electrical connection is shit. I have seen a newer MAS stick go bad in only a couple months. A wire became disconnected from a pin from mechanical wear due to no strain relief. The only reason I could repair the stick is because I had other peoples MAS' sticks laying around waiting to be fixed, therefore I could determine the pinout of the chips. A regular person buying a joystick does not know shit about electronics, do not have the pinout for this crap, and can't solder. In other words MAS sold them a $115 pile of crap. If thats not scamming someone I don't know what is. At the very least they should add strain relief to their design.
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  • IzagaiaIzagaia Where eagles dare to fly... Joined: Posts: 175
    No I can understand perfectly why people cut costs. To make more money. And I'm telling you that multiple IC's soldered to each other and then flopping around in a stick is a bad design. It wears out, very quickly. In any quality electronics design cords are secured at some point. Moving wire's become brittle and eventually your electrical connection is shit. I have seen a newer MAS stick go bad in only a couple months. A wire became disconnected from a pin from mechanical wear due to no strain relief. The only reason I could repair the stick is because I had other peoples MAS' sticks laying around waiting to be fixed, therefore I could determine the pinout of the chips. A regular person buying a joystick does not know shit about electronics, do not have the pinout for this crap, and can't solder. In other words MAS sold them a $115 pile of crap. If thats not scamming someone I don't know what is. At the very least they should add strain relief to their design.

    Perhaps... but if all you have to contribute here is this statement without explaining that this individual (or every person in the state of Michigan who purchased a MAS) failed to contact their customer service line for a warranted repair - then all you have is a "mindless rant". I have two of these products. One of which is ten years old. And to that end... have you ever actually seen the inside of a MAS unit? There has only ever been one and only one PCB inside. As a certified (A+ and MCP 70-270) technician, I can tell you and everyone else, as far as reproduceable and economically sound reliabilty is concerned from a business standpoint, that this is extrodinary for an electronics device of this sort. I would love to know that even a Chulthu might survive this long given it's inherent nature to be "piggy-backed" along side something else. The design, which is inspired by classic U.S. arcade cabinetry, is almost faultless. And everyone who has purchased one in the state of Indiana can attest to it. Hell... I have had Atari, XBox and Sony controllers go bad long before a MAS unit even began to show it's age.

    I mean really... if you have a legitimate concern about the product, say so and then move on. No need to linger and be an asshole about it. Intelligent people do not take unwarranted, opinionated and rude remarks seriously. At best it, can be merely conscrued as "web-trash".
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  • GaspGasp | | | | | Joined: Posts: 4,611
    american sticks are dying out but MAS sticks are the best
    i'm pretty sure you can give birth on it if needed



    are you dudes still living in that trailer?
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    american sticks are dying out but MAS sticks are the best
    i'm pretty sure you can give birth on it if needed



    are you dudes still living in that trailer?

    Yes, we are still at the same location.

    - MAS Systems
  • GregoGrego FUCK SALT! Joined: Posts: 364
    Perhaps... but if all you have to contribute here is this statement without explaining that this individual (or every person in the state of Michigan who purchased a MAS) failed to contact their customer service line for a warranted repair - then all you have is a "mindless rant". I have two of these products. One of which is ten years old. And to that end... have you ever actually seen the inside of a MAS unit? There has only ever been one and only one PCB inside. As a certified (A+ and MCP 70-270) technician, I can tell you and everyone else, as far as reproduceable and economically sound reliabilty is concerned from a business standpoint, that this is extrodinary for an electronics device of this sort. I would love to know that even a Chulthu might survive this long given it's inherent nature to be "piggy-backed" along side something else. The design, which is inspired by classic U.S. arcade cabinetry, is almost faultless. And everyone who has purchased one in the state of Indiana can attest to it. Hell... I have had Atari, XBox and Sony controllers go bad long before a MAS unit even began to show it's age.

    I mean really... if you have a legitimate concern about the product, say so and then move on. No need to linger and be an asshole about it. Intelligent people do not take unwarranted, opinionated and rude remarks seriously. At best it, can be merely conscrued as "web-trash".

    Ok this is going to be the last time I reply to this thread because most people talking don't know shit about this history of MAS. There was a very long period of time where people were trying to contact MAS about ordering or getting stick repaired. MAS was not answering phones/emails for atleast six months. Check OLD srk threads and you will find this out yourself. Regardless, I have experience with electronics, I have repaired many of these sticks. I can tell people first hand that a new MAS stick is a waste of money. Yes, when they started in 1993 or whatever they were the best stick you could buy. Now a days a TE stick is a much better investment. At least buy a stick from one of the guys that plays SF and posts on SRK regularly. For any more proof of MAS having no customer service please see a page back were someone lost $140 trying to buy a MAS stick. Thank you and good night.
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    Ok this is going to be the last time I reply to this thread because most people talking don't know shit about this history of MAS. There was a very long period of time where people were trying to contact MAS about ordering or getting stick repaired. MAS was not answering phones/emails for atleast six months. Check OLD srk threads and you will find this out yourself. Regardless, I have experience with electronics, I have repaired many of these sticks. I can tell people first hand that a new MAS stick is a waste of money. Yes, when they started in 1993 or whatever they were the best stick you could buy. Now a days a TE stick is a much better investment. At least buy a stick from one of the guys that plays SF and posts on SRK regularly. For any more proof of MAS having no customer service please see a page back were someone lost $140 trying to buy a MAS stick. Thank you and good night.

    First of all, its been stated that we have problematic phone lines. To say that we were not answering phone calls/emails would be wrong. When people call, there's a very low chance it will even get through, meaning it won't even ring. This doesn't mean we were not answering the phone, it just means it wouldn't even ring for us to answer it. I don't know anything about emails, but I highly doubt our engineer would knowingly ignore an email from someone.

    Also, as I've stated before, we never received the $140 from that person. It was lost before it even reached us, so there was nothing we could do about that. And seriously? For more proof of how MAS has no customer service, come talk to me. Honestly? That's what this whole thread was set up for. We have direct customer service through this thread, and you're just finding a reason to be an asshole. Good day to you.

    - MAS Systems
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    Wow... I don't even own a MAS stick and I want to tell Grego to fuck himself. I'll refrain for now.
  • roxtcroxtc Joined: Posts: 245
    Ok this is going to be the last time I reply to this thread because most people talking don't know shit about this history of MAS. There was a very long period of time where people were trying to contact MAS about ordering or getting stick repaired. MAS was not answering phones/emails for atleast six months. Check OLD srk threads and you will find this out yourself. Regardless, I have experience with electronics, I have repaired many of these sticks. I can tell people first hand that a new MAS stick is a waste of money. Yes, when they started in 1993 or whatever they were the best stick you could buy. Now a days a TE stick is a much better investment. At least buy a stick from one of the guys that plays SF and posts on SRK regularly. For any more proof of MAS having no customer service please see a page back were someone lost $140 trying to buy a MAS stick. Thank you and good night.

    Good, we don't need your crap here. That's not what these forums are for. Not sure what happened in the past but right now, Anthony is here, made himself available, spends a lot of time taking care of his customers and listening on this forum so if that's bad customer service I'm not sure what is considered satisfactory.

    Nobody can be in business if there's no profit, it's the natural circle of life. I'm sure a lot of the savings is passed on to us. Many customs often cost what they charge for only a blank case so I think we have a reasonable case. (No pun intended) Sure MAS could spend more money on a board, but then at the end of the day, the cost will be passed onto me, I'd rather just have a cheaper option and upgrade if necessary later on.

    You say a TE stick is the better investment. Who are you to determine that for everyone? I own a TE stick but do I want a MAS? YES. I want the best Happ/iL stick I can get and this is one of them, so to me it's a good investment. Buying a TE if you weren't interested in Japanese parts would seem like a bad investment to me.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    Blank templates are now available on the original post at the bottom! These are templates for full size controllers, but are pretty much identical for the mini sizes!

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  • KINGKING あなたの母親の膣 Joined: Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    They weren't my MAS sticks, I was repairing people in michigans. And having the wires from the controller cord going directly to some chips is about as ghetto as it gets. I have a degree in computer engineering and do quite a bit of my own electronics and I know a bad design when I see one. You should think about what you say, since maybe Im just trying to give people a heads up on a scam.

    Dude, you're totally off-base. I was a MAS customer five years ago (back when I was more hardcore about SF and joysticks), and actually owned 3 sticks (yes, all $400-500 bux worth), and I can attest to their quality. They are the best American joystick makers by far. Those boxes are the most durable mofos you could've found years ago, and I believe they're still some of the sturdiest around. Buff construction.

    Nowadays, I prefer Japanese parts, but Super Turbo or MvC2 just doesn't feel right unless it's on an American stick. Hell, I even took out closest-two buttons (nearest to the Sanwa joystick) on the TE stick, so the layout would be straight like an American stick.

    Grego, give it a rest, bro.
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  • roxtcroxtc Joined: Posts: 245
    Anthony, thanks for getting us that template. May I ask what are the dimensions of an MAS stick? I need to resize the template in photoshop because right now the actual size of the template at 300 ppi is only 3.4 x 2.2 inches.
  • OuroborusOuroborus plays 3s just to troll Joined: Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Dude, you're totally off-base. I was a MAS customer five years ago (back when I was more hardcore about SF and joysticks), and actually owned 3 sticks (yes, all $400-500 bux worth), and I can attest to their quality. They are the best American joystick makers by far. Those boxes are the most durable mofos you could've found years ago, and I believe they're still some of the sturdiest around. Buff construction.

    Nowadays, I prefer Japanese parts, but Super Turbo or MvC2 just doesn't feel right unless it's on an American stick. Hell, I even took out closest-two buttons (nearest to the Sanwa joystick) on the TE stick, so the layout would be straight like an American stick.

    Grego, give it a rest, bro.

    word.

    i use the last 6 buttons on the madcatz te stick because thats how the MAS sticks and clones were designed back then.
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    Anthony, thanks for getting us that template. May I ask what are the dimensions of an MAS stick? I need to resize the template in photoshop because right now the actual size of the template at 300 ppi is only 3.4 x 2.2 inches.

    It shouldn't matter. As long as you keep the ratio as it is, we can resize it for you should it be a little bit off. But if you really want the dimensions, I can check them later today for you.

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  • roxtcroxtc Joined: Posts: 245
    It'd be nice if you could let us know the dimensions of the paper you print it on. Assuming the template you supplied would be the same size as the printout.
  • SystemSystem Joined: Posts: 508,676 admin
    It'd be nice if you could let us know the dimensions of the paper you print it on. Assuming the template you supplied would be the same size as the printout.

    11 in. by 17 in. Keep in mind that it doesn't take up the full space of the paper.

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  • shin_shoryukenshin_shoryuken Powered by Pho Joined: Posts: 57
    besides black and white, what other color options do you offer for the sides of the box?
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  • Cracka JCracka J Race-Ism™ Joined: Posts: 1,889
    thanks for adding the template. most likely will work on something this week or next week for the top art, and I'll contact you when I've got it finished and am ready to place an order.

    and regarding the complaints, I realize grego's friends sticks were likely bought when they made a transition to the PIC instead of the PCB's, but I mean there's actual pictures of what they're using now in this thread for you to check out and make a judgment call. so while you're friends might not have gotten exactly what they wanted, I hardly call what they're doing now a scam. anthony is flat out telling you they're using the PIC's, there's pictures displayed, they're not hiding anything.

    if you don't like what they're using, you can get a FINISHED CASE instead, and just wire it the way you want. there's nothing being hidden from the consumer, he's telling you how the product is created and exactly what they're using.

    60 for the box.
    25 for a pad.
    20 for parts.

    anyone with minimal soldering knowledge can make a iL mas stick for slightly over $100. please define scam again because I consider that a steal.
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  • ailerusailerus ni hao Joined: Posts: 1,335
    Perhaps... but if all you have to contribute here is this statement without explaining that this individual (or every person in the state of Michigan who purchased a MAS) failed to contact their customer service line for a warranted repair - then all you have is a "mindless rant". I have two of these products. One of which is ten years old. And to that end... have you ever actually seen the inside of a MAS unit? There has only ever been one and only one PCB inside. As a certified (A+ and MCP 70-270) technician, I can tell you and everyone else, as far as reproduceable and economically sound reliabilty is concerned from a business standpoint, that this is extrodinary for an electronics device of this sort. I would love to know that even a Chulthu might survive this long given it's inherent nature to be "piggy-backed" along side something else. The design, which is inspired by classic U.S. arcade cabinetry, is almost faultless. And everyone who has purchased one in the state of Indiana can attest to it. Hell... I have had Atari, XBox and Sony controllers go bad long before a MAS unit even began to show it's age.

    I mean really... if you have a legitimate concern about the product, say so and then move on. No need to linger and be an asshole about it. Intelligent people do not take unwarranted, opinionated and rude remarks seriously. At best it, can be merely conscrued as "web-trash".

    You do realize that an A+ and MCP 70-270 are entry-level certifications that barely mean anything, right? You're not certified to say anything other than using windows really, but nice try really.

    I've also seen the insides of two MAS sticks and they were an absolute mess. Dangling wires, etc. The people that asked me to take a look at them had never tried tampering with the wires themselves.
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    You do realize that an A+ and MCP 70-270 are entry-level certifications that barely mean anything, right? You're not certified to say anything other than using windows really, but nice try really.

    I've also seen the insides of two MAS sticks and they were an absolute mess. Dangling wires, etc. The people that asked me to take a look at them had never tried tampering with the wires themselves.

    You and the other guy are completely retarded, Im not even gonna bother to argue with you after this, The wires are fine if you're doing shit you shouldn't be with them in the first place that's your own fault' stop sticking your god damn hands in the stick and it would be fine you're doing that of your own accord.
  • ailerusailerus ni hao Joined: Posts: 1,335
    You and the other guy are completely retarded, Im not even gonna bother to argue with you after this, The wires are fine if you're doing shit you shouldn't be with them in the first place that's your own fault' stop sticking your god damn hands in the stick and it would be fine you're doing that of your own accord.

    I'm retarded for saying what I saw when I opened the bottom of two MAS sticks without touching any of the wires? Please argue with me because you didn't make any sense with that post.

    Please continue to be a worthwhile contributor to Shoryuken, and especially Tech Talk, cammy-white.
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    I have about 3 MAS sticks, and all 3 do not work... 1 is not working because of the PS2 cord, one of the pins came out of the plug and it's not working... 1, the buttons and stick were just horrible... 1, they put one of those New Happ cheap ass Perfect 360 sticks in there, and the stick is just plain horrible... Apparently to fix the cord on one stick I have to pay a whopping 40 bucks plus shipping... SMH...
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  • cammy-whitecammy-white Joined: Posts: 748
    I'm retarded for saying what I saw when I opened the bottom of two MAS sticks without touching any of the wires? Please argue with me because you didn't make any sense with that post.

    Please continue to be a worthwhile contributor to Shoryuken, and especially Tech Talk, cammy-white.

    Contributing more then stupidity at the very least, My MAS-Stick, I had for years and years never had a problem, Everyone's already admitted the button's are terrible because of the switch from iL you're just repeating yourselves and being asses about it and contributing nothing to help anthony actually go through and fix it, You can rant and rave all day it gets you no where.
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