Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (UMK3)

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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    "I want to play this game and not have to pay a dime for it."

    shut up...:rolleyes:

    eventhough I sure did say that. :lol:
    UMK the true crack!

    this guy sucks. :badboy:

    I know I'ma probably get the foot in the ass for this question. But why don't most people prefer to play MKT on PS1 (since I know there are a lot of issues with the N64 version)? Especially for tournaments. We'd just ban Classic characters/Bosses/Noob/Rain and be good to go, no?
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  • Hanzo_HasashiHanzo_Hasashi Primal Rage rules Joined: Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Well briefly, MK2 & UMK3 are completely different, so just because a character is top tier in one game doesnt mean anything in another.

    But also, for UMK3 Mileena, they slowed down the sai charge time to eliminate the auto-fire sai from MK2. But she also has to work very hard to get good damage, and the only 2 non projectile specials she has if blocked, leave her in a world of hurt to be punished when blocked. But she is fun to play with, has some nasty combos with her leg combo pop up, and if you ever saw Hanzo play Mileena, you'd think she is top tier. LMAO :coffee:

    Thx for the props. Some Mileena matches of me: :china:



  • RoGE9RoGE9 Joined: Posts: 1,686
    I know I'ma probably get the foot in the ass for this question. But why don't most people prefer to play MKT on PS1 (since I know there are a lot of issues with the N64 version)? Especially for tournaments. We'd just ban Classic characters/Bosses/Noob/Rain and be good to go, no?

    Yeah, I agree, the greatest hits PSX version is UMK3 with added broken characters but I think one of the reasons its not played is because it would just look bad because of all the banned characters lol

    And all PS3s are BC with PS1 games so it really doesn't seem like it would be a bad alternative.
  • GhaleonGhaleon Maximum Cammy Joined: Posts: 3,467
    MKT is not good -- it's got lots of fucked up properties that weren't in Ultimate because I doubt it got tested very well. It's basically like ST versus HDR. On the surface they seem like the same game but many properties are different. Plus the speed is different ;P

    btw Juggernaut, I talked to Phil and I have a lot of content to add if we get an MK server going. Well not tons, but I have some SB4 action and I took a lot of footage at ECT2

    GS on this thread! It's really great to see UMK3 being streamed and people getting excited over it again

    btw, I have the UMK3 that came with MK:A -- I haven't messed with it much but yeah, everyone says it sucks. Plus you can't map buttons anyway.

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  • ChiroToBChiroToB Joined: Posts: 139
    I've played UMK3 on PS2... its not the best, it's not the worst... it's ok for casuals and it's ok for practice, but I would definitely stick to MAME for tournaments and competitive casuals.
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  • RoGE9RoGE9 Joined: Posts: 1,686
    MKT is not good -- it's got lots of fucked up properties that weren't in Ultimate because I doubt it got tested very well. It's basically like ST versus HDR. On the surface they seem like the same game but many properties are different. Plus the speed is different ;P
    Seriously? Even in the Greatest hits version? What properties are different exactly?
  • ChiroToBChiroToB Joined: Posts: 139
    One of the first things that comes to mind is the limit on Kung Lao's spin. He can't perform the corner infinite anymore.
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  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    MKT is garbage. I HATE the fucking game. i mean HATE it. But mainly because it wasnt what it was supposed to be: the best 2D MK ever.
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    Thx for the props. Some Mileena matches of me: :china:




    No problem, my brother. Thanks for all you do for MK :)
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    btw, I have the UMK3 that came with MK:A -- I haven't messed with it much but yeah, everyone says it sucks. Plus you can't map buttons anyway.
    I've played UMK3 on PS2... its not the best, it's not the worst... it's ok for casuals and it's ok for practice, but I would definitely stick to MAME for tournaments and competitive casuals.

    UMK3 on the MK:A KE is a terrible port because A. no button config B. you cannot save the hiddens (aka you must unlock them everytime, cant save even with a memory card) & C. some properties are weird. Its just not something to pay any extra for or even use, especially when you can play a version as close to a cab as it gets via Mame
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    And for the QUADRUPLE post...

    UMK3 IS coming back to XBLA. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when.

    :coffee:
  • OJuggernautOOJuggernautO Tyler "Juggs" Smith Joined: Posts: 512
    And for the QUADRUPLE post...

    UMK3 IS coming back to XBLA. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when.

    :coffee:

    Oh good shit, maybe they will patch it too...
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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    Tim S. for best Quad Post Of The YEAR!!! :lol:

    Alright folks UMK3 it is.

    I guess if I wanna use all the characters in the MK universe, I best play the balanced version of MKA...on the Wii. :angel:
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  • AzuroAzuro C L E B O Y Z Joined: Posts: 1,132
    MKA on the Wii is arguably worse with it's manual wakeup feature. Imagine your opponent being able to randomly fall down at any given moment you attack and just launch you for a fairly unscaled juggle. Lol...

    Who cares, though...MKA is a shitty game period.
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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    I like that feature and it can be baited.

    And that combined with the removal of ALL the BS from the previous versions of MKA = the game isn't that bad.

    LOL, at least it's better than MK2. :razz:
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  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    LOL, at least it's better than MK2. :razz:

    no way man. As outdated as MK2 is, its still more of a chess battle, a la SF WW/HF/ST.

    its my fave MK for nostalgia but i cant stand playing it anymore. So yes, i am retired from MK2 lol
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    Oh good shit, maybe they will patch it too...

    I wouldnt count on it, but weres to hoping.

    Besides, you shouldnt worry if its getting patching. You need to be rocking the p2p!!

    BTW, i want to publicly thank you for getting the gall to make this thread. Most people who know shit around here know me for UMK3 (sadly lol) so i wanted and hinted at someone else doing this. Thank you.
  • EWAShockEWAShock (`~^.UMK3 Sucks.^~`) Joined: Posts: 835
    Or we can all just go to summonings house and play right shock!

    We are probably getting a second cab, and maybe for the summer we can move them to the warehouse and have some free for alls! We can literally roll them over to it on a hand truck.

    Also, the PS2 port of UMK3 is not exactly terrible, it is playable but the frame skip almost simulates netplay at times, and there are just simply dropped frame images, where sprites completely disappear and others don't. Bizzare.

    As for MKT guys, the Greatest Hits PSX version is fine to play as a for fun tournament if you ban bosses, and most likely ban Noob Saibot, possibly Rain. The biggest flaw for MKT is screen area vs sprite size. It causes some issues with juggling on certain combos, but nothing to complain about. If you want, you can even run it on EPSXE at 53FPS to simulate UMK3's frame rate, and then you're golden. Even in this case, Rain would not necessarily be a bannable character.

    Also Ghaleon, where dem vids!?
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  • GwynLovesMilkGwynLovesMilk Joined: Posts: 6,086
    And for the QUADRUPLE post...

    UMK3 IS coming back to XBLA. Not a matter of if, but a matter of when.

    :coffee:

    That day is the return of me playing UMK3 :coffee:

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  • Arkayne17Arkayne17 Stop it meg. Joined: Posts: 2,857


    this guy sucks. :badboy:

    orly????
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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    :razz: Yeah RLY!!!! :razz:
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  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,200
    Thx for the props. Some Mileena matches of me: :china:




    Watching now

    Also, I know wrong thread, but hanzo you think you could link me those Sabrewulf/Fulgore KI2 matches? All of a sudden I feel like playing that game...
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  • summoningsummoning Joined: Posts: 9
    We are probably getting a second cab, and maybe for the summer we can move them to the warehouse and have some free for alls! We can literally roll them over to it on a hand truck.

    ya we are moving one machine to the warehouse space i have across the street ill give keys to you guys you can set it all up there, 24 hour place have as many people as you want anytime you wanna play , just coordinate it with shock he will be the grand master keymaster ;)
  • Kim Sue-ilKim Sue-il Call me JoJo! Joined: Posts: 1,799
    Watching now

    Also, I know wrong thread, but hanzo you think you could link me those Sabrewulf/Fulgore KI2 matches? All of a sudden I feel like playing that game...

    Someone say KI2 match vids? Let me see too. Anyone actually play UMK3 DS? Whenever I log on, I see alot of South Americans still play it.
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  • MENTHOLMENTHOL PUMP IT Joined: Posts: 219
    Anyone know the specs I need to play UMK3 flawlessly on MAME with the HQ3x image enhancement filter on? Buying a new PC soon. I'll have it hooked up to my HDTV so I can't have it looking choppy. I'm not looking to spend a lot since it'll mainly be used for MAME. Advice will be preeshed.
  • ChiroToBChiroToB Joined: Posts: 139
    You won't need the filter for UMK3.... all you need is an HDMI output to your TV and use Mame PPK 119 or and it will work great. If you wanna play p2p online use Mame 32k 64.
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  • NexeldNexeld Joined: Posts: 9
    How do you select Human Smoke on UMK3? Can't seem to find him.
  • ChiroToBChiroToB Joined: Posts: 139
    Select Robot Smoke and at the Vs. Screen hold, HP+HK+Bl+Run until he changes into H.Smoke in game.
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  • Black ShroudBlack Shroud Spirits Society Joined: Posts: 1,167
    You won't need the filter for UMK3.... all you need is an HDMI output to your TV and use Mame PPK 119 or and it will work great. If you wanna play p2p online use Mame 32k 64.

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  • MENTHOLMENTHOL PUMP IT Joined: Posts: 219
    You won't need the filter for UMK3.

    Hmmm are you sure? Look at these HQ2x screens of MK1-UMK3 on Mame Plus! (UMK3 shots are on page 2)

    http://www.insomnia.gr/forum/showthread.php?t=177061

    Just looks a hell of a lot better with no jaggies.
  • NexeldNexeld Joined: Posts: 9
    Select Robot Smoke and at the Vs. Screen hold, HP+HK+Bl+Run until he changes into H.Smoke in game.

    thanks
  • snaeksnaek ihearthawthats Joined: Posts: 367
    Hmmm are you sure? Look at these HQ2x screens of MK1-UMK3 on Mame Plus! (UMK3 shots are on page 2)

    http://www.insomnia.gr/forum/showthread.php?t=177061

    Just looks a hell of a lot better with no jaggies.
    its all personal preference. i hate filters; i think the pixel look makes it feel more "old-school". leave hd for the new games is what i say.

    in regards to system requirements, i think its safe to say that any modern machine can run it just fine.
  • RoGE9RoGE9 Joined: Posts: 1,686
    As for MKT guys, the Greatest Hits PSX version is fine to play as a for fun tournament if you ban bosses, and most likely ban Noob Saibot, possibly Rain. The biggest flaw for MKT is screen area vs sprite size. It causes some issues with juggling on certain combos, but nothing to complain about. If you want, you can even run it on EPSXE at 53FPS to simulate UMK3's frame rate, and then you're golden. Even in this case, Rain would not necessarily be a bannable character.
    Okay now this is the answer I am looking for, thanks! :tup:

    But yeah, MKT is just a play for fun game, umk3 is the real deal lol
  • MENTHOLMENTHOL PUMP IT Joined: Posts: 219
    MKT is the perfect PSP game. :tup:
  • OJuggernautOOJuggernautO Tyler "Juggs" Smith Joined: Posts: 512
    Select Robot Smoke and at the Vs. Screen hold, HP+HK+Bl+Run until he changes into H.Smoke in game.

    You also have to hold "away" from your opponent. So as P1, you would hold down "left".
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  • EWAShockEWAShock (`~^.UMK3 Sucks.^~`) Joined: Posts: 835
    Anyone know the specs I need to play UMK3 flawlessly on MAME with the HQ3x image enhancement filter on? Buying a new PC soon. I'll have it hooked up to my HDTV so I can't have it looking choppy. I'm not looking to spend a lot since it'll mainly be used for MAME. Advice will be preeshed.

    The minimum requirements from what I can tell, to run UMK3 at 100% speed and frame rate with no filter, is a P4 1.8gHz with I would suggest 512MB ram running on WinXP. My P4 3.2 gHz runs it perfectly at full screen with standard filtering in MAME, but I've had a Quadcore 6600 for about 3 years and it's been a while since I played it on the P4, so I don't remember exactly how it looked in terms of graphics compared to higher filters. So far as I know, it can't look any better than the current MAME's standard filtering because the res is only like 400x252. You want to make sure it's at correct aspect ratio, not stretched, so you will have black bars on the sides, since correct aspect is basically 4:3. So basically, anything above a P4 will do what you need and that's common. I would say, there's no reason for HQ3x image enhancement MENTHOL, unless that is something necessary to get to look right on a big TV. We play on a 135" 1080p projector at Summoning's.
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  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    MKT is the perfect PSP game. :tup:

    no... :coffee:
  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    How do you select Human Smoke on UMK3? Can't seem to find him.
    Select Robot Smoke and at the Vs. Screen hold, HP+HK+Bl+Run until he changes into H.Smoke in game.
    thanks

    Adding to this....you dont have to do it before the first round. You can use Robo Homo in the first or even second round, but you have to hold back + HP + HK + BLK + RUN at the beginning of the round you want to use him in. That being said, once you go human, you cannot go back to Robo. fyi
  • ChiroToBChiroToB Joined: Posts: 139
    wow, my head isn't on straight... yeah.. forgot to say you have to hold back as well... ty for correcting me guys.
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  • EWAShockEWAShock (`~^.UMK3 Sucks.^~`) Joined: Posts: 835
    Adding to this....you dont have to do it before the first round. You can use Robo Homo in the first or even second round, but you have to hold back + HP + HK + BLK + RUN at the beginning of the round you want to use him in. That being said, once you go human, you cannot go back to Robo. fyi

    Unless....you're playing 2 on 2, in which case, whatever round you pick Human Smoke, the next round he will be Robot Smoke again when he comes out as player 2...unless....you're playing the Zeus hack in which you can freely select Human Smoke as a character with no code. To be more specific, you need to hold the button combination until after Shao Kahn says "Round" in order for it to work.
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  • xplicitxplicit Joined: Posts: 140
    Hey, I was wondering what all your controller setups are atm. I'm still trying to decide between some sort of pad or a stick...
  • RoGE9RoGE9 Joined: Posts: 1,686
    Hey, I was wondering what all your controller setups are atm. I'm still trying to decide between some sort of pad or a stick...

    Depends on what you prefer, I use a keyboard to play UMK3 with the simple ASDZXC controls

    A=HP
    S=HK
    D= Block
    Z= LP
    X= LK
    C= Run
    The controls in UMK3 are simple, like Kabal for instance, he just has B, B, HP and B, F, LK which are very easy to input on a KB.
  • LouiscipherLouiscipher Joined: Posts: 8,177
    I don't see the appeal. It's not a horrible game, but I can think of 10 more 2D fighters that are better off the top of my head. The sprites have not aged well at all, and the palette-swapping is funny as hell. The controls are clunky (a run button?). The jumping is awkward, and looks awkward, and it's overall pretty broken. The auto-combos are decent though. Who would play this seriously?
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    I don't see the appeal. It's not a horrible game, but I can think of 10 more 2D fighters that are better off the top of my head. The sprites have not aged well at all, and the palette-swapping is funny as hell. The controls are clunky (a run button?). The jumping is awkward, and looks awkward, and it's overall pretty broken. The auto-combos are decent though. Who would play this seriously?

    No one is saying UMK3 is the best fighter ever made. We just love and enjoy the game especially at high levels. Visually it's not appealing to most, but some actually like how the aesthetics are "old school". I'm not sure what you mean by the controls being "clunky", the run button is what makes UMK3 unique and different from it's predecessors and basically every other fighting game. Not to mention the block button, which adds a different aspect and depth that's not in most fighting games. The jumping is only awkward when you're used to other games jumping. I don't know why you say it's broken though, lol. If you play against a good player, it's almost never a good idea to jump.

    Basically, the game plays very differently than pretty much every fighter. Though as I said in my first post, it has a lot of things in it that are in other fighters. Most are used very differently, but applied the same way. Since it's played differently, a lot of people just can't get into it because it is awkward to them, which is understandable. All I can say is the game takes a lot of skill, and is fun as hell at high levels. The skill gap is massive, and the game is very nicely balanced.

    You should try it out, I know quite a few friends of mine said similar things about the game, but when they saw it high levels and actually played it for themselves, they really enjoyed it!
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  • EWAShockEWAShock (`~^.UMK3 Sucks.^~`) Joined: Posts: 835
    Jugg, he railroads the gameplay and graphics, but says the autocombos are decent. Should have just thanked him for his input and moved on.

    Louiscipher, if you ever decide to really learn the game, you can come back and edit that post.
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  • digimonemporerdigimonemporer Joined: Posts: 2,612
    That is very nicely said. Glad I didn't see that post before you both did.

    UMK3 is amazing. A lot of people are forgetting that UMK3 (MK in general) came out before a lot of your beloved games. And deserves mad respect.

    Period.
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    anyone play on xbox live?
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  • Kim Sue-ilKim Sue-il Call me JoJo! Joined: Posts: 1,799
    IMHO, I think this game gets alot of hate from a large number of players born in the mid/late-90's. This is just an opinion, not fact.
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  • Tim StaticTim Static Kid Thunder!! Joined: Posts: 4,635 mod
    IMHO, I think this game gets alot of hate from a large number of players born in the mid/late-90's. This is just an opinion, not fact.

    I think its fact. They didnt grow up playing these games in the arcade when these games (MK1-UMK3) were drawing huge crowds. Sure it was the gore, the fatalities and the secrets, but the gameplay was just soooo.......i dunno. it was addicting to me. simply yet hard to master etc.
  • Tech RomancerTech Romancer PSN: Tech_Romancer Joined: Posts: 5,200
    I....don't...know...what's happening to me.

    Its like I know the thread title says UMK3...but reading this thread makes me want to play Killer Instinct badly for some reason.

    I'm sorry, Tim! :sad:
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