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  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    how do you do 4 crouching moves in a row standing?
    Ha ha I mean I was able to connect the 3 Lp standing but not crouching, is the standing one not as good?
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    Ha ha I mean I was able to connect the 3 Lp standing but not crouching, is the standing one not as good?

    I don't know the frame data on standing jab, but crouching jab is pretty good. I believe you can chain the jabs together so it should be easy to do the combo. Just mash jab until you get three and then cancel into whatever you want.
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    The jabs aren't so bad now, but the Lk keeps pushing me away so I can't finish the string am I doing it too slow? Also if I'm eating shoryuken's between the Jmp cr.lp st.lp cr.lk/mk xxSK combo am I doing it too slowly? And does the SK at the end matter, should I just stick with lk?
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    The jabs aren't so bad now, but the Lk keeps pushing me away so I can't finish the string am I doing it too slow? Also if I'm eating shoryuken's between the Jmp cr.lp st.lp cr.lk/mk xxSK combo am I doing it too slowly? And does the SK at the end matter, should I just stick with lk?

    Umm, I'm sorry, which string are you talking about again?
    Also, j. mp cr. lp, st. lp, cr. lk/mk xx sk... where are you getting reversal'd in between? Also, do people really do that combo after j. mp? You mean j. mk? If I had to guess, I'd say that you're getting reversal'd after j. mk. It's definitely not safe on block (if you hit another button, you'll eat reversal), but I think it MIGHT be safe on hit. I don't use it very much anymore because I keep eating auto-correct DP. Also, if your combo skills are GOOD, always use cr. mk xx roundhouse scissor kicks. If your combo skills are bad, use cr. lk xx lk scissor kicks. Cr. lk combos into either lk or mk scissors. The problem is that the mk scissors aren't safe on block so if you miss your combo, you're screwed. But if you are good at hitting combos, might as well get free damage with cr. mk xx rh sk.
  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    For some reason, the 2nd hit of the hell attack ALWAYS gets me a counter-hit when ppl try to focus attack it. I cant explain it but it literally always earns me a counter-hit and a combo opportunity.
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  • del1riumdel1rium Hype Junkie Joined: Posts: 1,802
    Perhaps they're releasing the FA between the two hits? I can't imagine it always giving CH by default.
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  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    Perhaps they're releasing the FA between the two hits? I can't imagine it always giving CH by default.

    Yeah I dont believe its an auto-counter hit, but it gives me a very high %.
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  • m16ghostm16ghost Joined: Posts: 1,810
    Yeah they're releasing the FA in between hits. The FA attack is really slow.
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    Umm, I'm sorry, which string are you talking about again?
    Cr.Lk, Cr.lp X3
    Also, do people really do that combo after j. mp? You mean j. mk? If I had to guess, I'd say that you're getting reversal'd after j. mk. It's definitely not safe on block (if you hit another button, you'll eat reversal), but I think it MIGHT be safe on hit. I don't use it very much anymore because I keep eating auto-correct DP
    Yeah I meant mk (lol posting at 4 am), yeah upon trying it more it's totally the mk I'm getting slammed on. Which do you use instead?
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  • SmokeMaxXSmokeMaxX T.O. of A.R.K. Joined: Posts: 7,974
    Cr.Lk, Cr.lp X3

    Yeah I meant mk (lol posting at 4 am), yeah upon trying it more it's totally the mk I'm getting slammed on. Which do you use instead?

    I'm no expert on cr. lk, cr. lp x3 since I don't use it, but when I do cr. lk x3 xx sk, I know it has specific spacing that you must have to not whiff the third lk. It's not SUPER strict, but it's strict enough so that you need to be pretty close.

    I usually do this against the comp to work on my use of FA as well as getting the right spacing: FA (charge to level 2) release (cpu blocks) -> dash cancel the recovery -> cr. lk (into string/combo). That way you're super close so you can use whatever combo you need to (esp. ones that require close moves like cs. fp or cs. jab).

    Also, I'm not exactly sure what the details are of Bison's moves. I don't know if any of them have enough blockstun NOT to get reversaled but they all have their uses. I like using j. fp as a general jump in (esp. safe jumps), but j. rh is really good too. If you have an instance where you want to use j. mk, you can almost always use j. rh instead. It also has better range than j. fp.

    Anyway, the best way to NOT get reversaled? Bait it out. I do j. mk -> PAUSE. If reversal comes out, punish. If not, continue with short short short scissors, etc.

    Last, but not least. Fellow Bison's: I noticed you can run through Vega as he stands up (to test, knock Vega down through scissor kick and continue dashing as he stands). Is there any use for this? Maybe a mixup of some sort? Considering he has horrible reversals, I'd imagine this is viable in some fashion?
  • XKL1XKL1 Joined: Posts: 38
    My question is a different one, hope someone can help me though:

    I have already purchased the Super Shadoloo Pack, and I really want the Shadoloo pack too. btw I have a xbox360.

    I cannot find this pack on xbox live, but I find the pack on the internet on the xbox live marketplace, but ONLY in the Street Fighter 4 Vanilla section.


    Does anybody knows if thats the one for SSF4 too? That would be the only explaination to me why I cannot find the Shadoloo pack in SSF4 page and on xbox live...

    thx :)
  • SkySantoSkySanto Psycho Santa Joined: Posts: 32
    ^ it is indeed, buy it and it works on ssf4
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  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    I was watching a match where the bison FADC out of a SK did a combo (pretty sure it was C.lp, C.lp C.lk) but I'm not sure and cancelled the kick into another SK. Seems pretty awesome but I'm curious how practical it is, do any of you ever use this combo?
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  • del1riumdel1rium Hype Junkie Joined: Posts: 1,802
    It's good for pushing them into the corner ... not so good for damage.

    Obviously it does more damage than just combo xx SK, but for 2 stock it's not worth it just for the extra damage.
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  • pumakendopumakendo Joined: Posts: 49
    retarded question but i had to ask.

    recently i've been totally tripping up my friend with ambiguous cross up j.hp or frontal j.hp. he can't really just mash his reversal to anti air because i might end up on the other side as a cross up and i could just punish him. if he uses akuma or someone, i havent tried this yet but i know the option select slide might work.

    so off of an untechable knockdown in the middle of the screen (cuz in the corner you might not have enough room to make it an ambiguous jump), isn't this really the best wakeup game you can do?
  • NDRWPNDYNDRWPNDY ALLCAPS Joined: Posts: 707
    ...isn't this really the best wakeup game you can do?

    I personally think so.

    This goes for any opponent (shoto or not) and any safejump setup.
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    Is an ambiguous cross up just a hard to read jump?
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  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    Is an ambiguous cross up just a hard to read jump?

    Yeah its just hard to tell whether it will cross up or not.
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  • pumakendopumakendo Joined: Posts: 49
    k thanks. then what's the best wakeup game can you do again zangief? his lariat covers both sides and kills the ambiguous cross up j.hp haha.
  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    k thanks. then what's the best wakeup game can you do again zangief? his lariat covers both sides and kills the ambiguous cross up j.hp haha.


    Your best wake up game is to stay away and poke him to death. Never jump in on Gief.
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  • GuruofGreatnessGuruofGreatness Real Talk Headstomp Joined: Posts: 424
    properly timed nj.hp on an untechable knockdown beats lariat in my experience but the guessing game afterwards is not in your favor if the gief is good.
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  • axiscoreaxiscore Joined: Posts: 86
    noob questions:

    -When performing Knee Press/Psycho Crusher in combos (or anytime), is it better to always perform it as (after charging) forward, back + button press to maximize charge time, or just forward + button press?
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    I personally always hit back again to get another charge, to try for the pc cross up.
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  • XKL1XKL1 Joined: Posts: 38
    I didn't want to make a new topic for this kind of question:

    I am relatively new to the series and fighting games in general, I have tried all characters and I really suck *g*, the only char I can win consistently is M.Bison!

    Would you say it's true that he is noob-friendly, more than most of the rest?

    charging is easier to me, he deals great damage, you don't need many combos at low to mid level and he can be played very differently!
  • del1riumdel1rium Hype Junkie Joined: Posts: 1,802
    Would you say it's true that he is noob-friendly, more than most of the rest?
    Not really. It might just be that Bison fits your style particularly well.
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  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    I didn't want to make a new topic for this kind of question:

    I am relatively new to the series and fighting games in general, I have tried all characters and I really suck *g*, the only char I can win consistently is M.Bison!

    Would you say it's true that he is noob-friendly, more than most of the rest?

    charging is easier to me, he deals great damage, you don't need many combos at low to mid level and he can be played very differently!

    Id say hes noob friendly in the regard that hes easy to pick up but really difficult to master.
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  • Exceed^Exceed^ Slangin' Yogurt Joined: Posts: 849
    charging is easier to me, he deals great damage, you don't need many combos at low to mid level and he can be played very differently!

    I lol'd.
  • XKL1XKL1 Joined: Posts: 38
    Well okay, I think he deals out very good damage!

    Maybe our definition of that is not the same :)

    Thanks anyway for your feedback guys, I thought maybe I am only a threat with THE noob-char :D
  • pumakendopumakendo Joined: Posts: 49
    haha i guess he can sort of dish out a lot of damage because the roundhouse and s.mk are pretty reliable and are quick so you have more opportunities to use them as opposed to characters with crappier normals. but his punishes and bread and butter combos are only average damage really, partly because he can't fadc into ultra..

    anyways i have a question about dash in throw:
    it's pretty important part of bison's game. i think the best time to use it is when your opponent is less likely to press buttons, you know, because otherwise theyll stuff your dash. in other words, when they are on the defensive. since that's the case, when do you normally find opportunities when the opponent is scared enough so you can do this? i noticed one other time you can use it is when they expect a ex psycho crusher to get out, and you dash throw instead. one possible idea i had is during scissor kick trap, if they like to try to stuff your scissor kick, you can wait for them to hit a normal and then dash in throw if you don't want to scissor kick them again.
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    When ryu/ken whiffs his spiny kick is there a safe way to punish or will I just eat a DP? Every time one whiffs I want to slide at him so badly but I know the recovery on those things is gdlk. Also anyone down for some mirror matches so I can see how a real bipson does things? I'm sure I'll get destroyed but that seems to be the best way to learn.
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  • ShadolooDollShadolooDoll Joined: Posts: 2,932
    Sup. This be my first post here lol. I wonder if any1 here knows me... im a well known pokemon player/ kinda well known smash player... i wrote a guide on jigglypuff on swf ect... anyways I would like to apologize if these seem like a bad questions (maybe it's not..?) but I literally just got SSF4 today and I got my 360 a month ago.

    Online questions:

    I have some question concerning online play and Bison?

    1. Is there input lag in matches? ( I use to play Brawl wifi, it was god awful to the point where it wasn't playable or characters were almost totally different compared to their offline counterparts which leads me to the next question....)

    2. Is online Bison different than offline? If so how much, and what is different (nerfs/buffs/ect.)

    Answers to these are important because i am a very sensitive player... in Brawl i could get 3 stocked by a scrub in a poor connection but offline do well against legit players. Nintendo wifi is garb and free (and i only do offline now), so i would assume xboxlive which costs money would be a little more competent. If there are huge differences ill just do offline like i do with brawl.

    and here is my "stupid" question :sweat:

    SF4 Bison = SSF4 Bison? I've seen vids of both, they look the same... but I wanted to confirm this. Thanks for reading.
  • Kelter SkelterKelter Skelter the kelly skelly Joined: Posts: 2,844
    I play Bison but, all of a sudden it seems like so does everyone else.

    Problem is I'm TERRIBLE at the Bison mirror. They play really aggresively and jump all over me and I can't get them off. The match-up thread only had a few quick tips. Any more specific information?

    Or is there a character that plays against him well so I can learn them in order to counter-pick when a mirror would usually ensue?
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  • ShadolooDollShadolooDoll Joined: Posts: 2,932
    I play Bison but, all of a sudden it seems like so does everyone else.

    Problem is I'm TERRIBLE at the Bison mirror. They play really aggresively and jump all over me and I can't get them off. The match-up thread only had a few quick tips. Any more specific information?

    Or is there a character that plays against him well so I can learn them in order to counter-pick when a mirror would usually ensue?

    You can try Guile. He can actually camp Bison, and a lot of his moves beat out Bisons. I also forgot to include this question.... what is the MU ratio exactly for Bison:Guile?
  • stabicronstabicron CTRL ALT PSYCHOCRUSHER Joined: Posts: 2,065
    I play Bison but, all of a sudden it seems like so does everyone else.

    Problem is I'm TERRIBLE at the Bison mirror. They play really aggresively and jump all over me and I can't get them off. The match-up thread only had a few quick tips. Any more specific information?

    Or is there a character that plays against him well so I can learn them in order to counter-pick when a mirror would usually ensue?

    Mirrors are generally universally tricky in the fact the opponent has the exact same shenanigan potential that you do. In the mirror I first try and find out what kind of opponent I am facing, alternating between rtsd and defense/reaction punishing. From there I am usually able to get a fair idea of how I am to play the specific person. As always st.mk and st.hk is among your best tools.

    As for the suggestion to auto counterpick with Guile, would not suggest it unless you really know how to use him. Most of us have had enough Guile experience *thanks to Diago dick riders* to be able to handle beginner to moderate level Guile's. You try that and not really know him well and most of us would likely rip you apart.
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  • draxblooddraxblood Joined: Posts: 126
    Mirrors are generally universally tricky in the fact the opponent has the exact same shenanigan potential that you do. In the mirror I first try and find out what kind of opponent I am facing, alternating between rtsd and defense/reaction punishing. From there I am usually able to get a fair idea of how I am to play the specific person. As always st.mk and st.hk is among your best tools.

    As for the suggestion to auto counterpick with Guile, would not suggest it unless you really know how to use him. Most of us have had enough Guile experience *thanks to Diago dick riders* to be able to handle beginner to moderate level Guile's. You try that and not really know him well and most of us would likely rip you apart.

    I love it when someone counter picks guile and doesn't know the matchup, it's soooooo free.
  • mr.hadokenmr.hadoken Old School Style For You Joined: Posts: 621
    I been doing quite well online with Bison as of late. I have found quite useful things with his warp such as warp back as they jump towards you or spam fireball. Guiles haven't been a problem neither
    Good hit...but not enough power.
  • ShadolooDollShadolooDoll Joined: Posts: 2,932
    I love it when someone counter picks guile and doesn't know the matchup, it's soooooo free.

    oooh so you're saying your Bison's all like this when Guile fails?



    rofl couldn't resist. ****, I should get an infraction for lack of originality. I bet that vid or the original version was posted over 9000s times. Gah! Enough memes! ><

    But seriously can someone please answer my questions about how online play is and if it changes Bison's gameplay at all? Because if it does ill just do offline. I don't want wifi to hurt my real performance.
  • m16ghostm16ghost Joined: Posts: 1,810
    Online questions:

    I have some question concerning online play and Bison?

    1. Is there input lag in matches? ( I use to play Brawl wifi, it was god awful to the point where it wasn't playable or characters were almost totally different compared to their offline counterparts which leads me to the next question....)

    I believe the input lag is entirely dependent on your connection to your opponent. As opposed to GGPO, which sets an automatic 1-2 frame input lag, as part of its netcode design.
    2. Is online Bison different than offline? If so how much, and what is different (nerfs/buffs/ect.)

    The game is generally different online than offline, but this is true of any game that is timing sensitive (fighting games, rhythm games, computer fps games). Your connection may show 5 green bars, but if your ping to the other player is more than 60ms, you're already at 3-4 frames of input lag, which is where most decent players start to feel the effects.

    Bison himself isn't affected that much by the lag, but other characters play differently, and that in turn changes how you play. Maybe you'll miss some of your links, but more importantly, you may find that you are unable to punish things that you normally could offline.
    Answers to these are important because i am a very sensitive player... in Brawl i could get 3 stocked by a scrub in a poor connection but offline do well against legit players. Nintendo wifi is garb and free (and i only do offline now), so i would assume xboxlive which costs money would be a little more competent. If there are huge differences ill just do offline like i do with brawl.

    I subscribe to the idea that Xbox live is better because most people are forced to use wired connections in their house, but that may go away because the new slim xbox has built in wifi. Never use wifi for gaming.
    and here is my "stupid" question :sweat:

    SF4 Bison = SSF4 Bison? I've seen vids of both, they look the same... but I wanted to confirm this. Thanks for reading.


    They are mostly the same. Psycho crusher is better now, and some people swear his normals have changed, but the big changes are his new ultra and the damage normalization made in this game. Bison did terrible damage in SF4, but now his damage output isn't so bad compared to the majority of the other characters.
  • ShadolooDollShadolooDoll Joined: Posts: 2,932
    ^ thanks a lot. :) I might give it a shot just to get a feel of him... but I won't take it too seriously and will eventually convert to 100% offline, like i did with Brawl.
  • RyboyRyboy t'was Tues... Joined: Posts: 751
    is there a way to throw meaty grabs on someones reset or knockdown that shortens the amount of frames they have to tech?
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  • mikehascookiesmikehascookies cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.lk, cr.lk Joined: Posts: 910
    is there a way to throw meaty grabs on someones reset or knockdown that shortens the amount of frames they have to tech?

    The window to tech is always after the active frames of the throw, so there is no way to make that shorter. It would prevent someone from stand teching and getting the additional frames before your throw to counter throw you, but that's about it.
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  • DragonfallDragonfall Joined: Posts: 214
    If you don't have an EX bar, what's the best way to get out of a jam? Teleport? If so which direction?
  • kevfactorkevfactor Joined: Posts: 117
    how come i own everyone pretty much just head stomping and maybe some Mk and tosses but any other chr i try playing i get owned hehe
  • m16ghostm16ghost Joined: Posts: 1,810
    If you don't have an EX bar, what's the best way to get out of a jam? Teleport? If so which direction?

    Generally it'll serve you better to learn how to block, tech, and be patient.

    But if you really need to escape, you can teleport or backdash. Almost always you should teleport backwards using the kick buttons, but there are situational uses for teleporting forward.
  • del1riumdel1rium Hype Junkie Joined: Posts: 1,802
    how come i own everyone pretty much just head stomping and maybe some Mk and tosses but any other chr i try playing i get owned hehe

    Because you're fighting terrible opponents who don't know how to nj.FP?
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  • ShervinShervin 09'er Joined: Posts: 1,994
    Whats good with getting counter hits with CR. FP? I get them a lot (by accident) and I was wondering if its a coincidence or if theres something behind it.
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  • ShadolooDollShadolooDoll Joined: Posts: 2,932
    what winning quote number is the one when Bison says something along the lines of "I will spare you if you pledge loyality to my organization" im too lazy to figure it out >.>
  • mr.hadokenmr.hadoken Old School Style For You Joined: Posts: 621
    If you don't have an EX bar, what's the best way to get out of a jam? Teleport? If so which direction?

    Backwards IMO. But it depends on what is going on in the match. Crossup attempt or far back jump in teleport backwards help me, fireball spam either or because if they throw a fireball you could teleport backwards twice before you get hit if they don't move forward as they toss it. Or if they still still as many Ryu players do teleport forward with the punch you usually land behind them and you can toss them. Most of my match ups online are shotos and Bison has the tools to beat random and even hardcore players. 1 rule is be patient, I never do headstomps cause most ppl jump back and punish. Jumping toward fierce, Jumping toward forward, jumping toward roundhouse, jumping toward strong are some of his best jump ins.
    Good hit...but not enough power.
  • DoctorWho3kDoctorWho3k Got the tools of survival Joined: Posts: 315
    I never do headstomps cause most ppl jump back and punish.
    I cant imagine this works on good shotos but you can head stomp all day if you time it as the doken animation comes out, always fun.
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  • kisaku1218kisaku1218 808 you know Joined: Posts: 607
    I lol'd.


    >he deals great damage,

    Bison damage rating is strange, is like Rx-78 is good machine, but it depend on pilot and who you against, when against some cheap Zaku II yeah he is white devil, but not so much with Char....

    bison can be very scary if you guess what they gonna do next, maybe Bison can bring you some New Type ability and share his Psycho Power ability with you if you main him when you over 9000 BP (what? is over 9000!!!!!!!

    there is prove, I was losing badly at first since I thought normal Hado/DP and tic mix but is not.......


    I am losing, but bison does have some scary damage out put if you not combo it.
    down scale is not on move is not combo, so if you combo 13 hit in 1 combo and I do hit you by PC 13 times, that is some difference.

    maybe I should try to limited the combo and don't push it too far since damage is not worth, is just like investment, 3 meter for half HP? maybe, but 1 more meter for maybe a HP damage? not really, I will save it unless is guaranteed touch of death.
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