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  • Dark AkumaDark Akuma Harvey Byrdman Joined: Posts: 167 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Hey Chris count me in for helping and playing. I will be seeing you guys on the 20th. :)
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Hey Chris count me in for helping and playing. I will be seeing you guys on the 20th. :)

    Awesome looking forward to seeing you there! Also if you got a tv and a console! I still need some more for the tourney!
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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    i am going to try to make it but it doesnt look good right now. gotta new date for gvegas 7 November 5th i will try to list it tonight.
    Games list so far
    SF4 AE
    MK9
    MVC3
    KOF13
    Third strike
    SC4
    any missing do you guys think?
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Well i got a quick question. I need to know a lil more about MK. Is there any characters banned from this game and two who would happen to have all the characters unlocked?
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  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    The DLC characters (Skarlet, Kenshi, Rain, Freddy) should ALWAYS be banned (that's the way it should be in ANY game unless they are free, b/c they are dependent on the player (a) having internet and (b) making a purchase). Believe it or not, I know at least one person that doesn't have the DLC b/c he has never hooked his PS3 up to the internet. Kratos is also banned because he's console specific if you are using the PS3 version. The other characters are all fine. The only characters that you need to unlock are Cyber Sub Zero and Quan Chi, but someone needs to do that in advance b/c it takes a looooooong time to go through story mode.

    EDIT: Also if you are using the PS3 version, Kratos' stage is also banned - the screen shakes when you are on it, and if you aren't used to it (i.e.: if you only play the XBox version and have never been to a tournament, etc.), then it gives your opponent an unfair advantage.

    EDIT AGAIN: By that same logic, you should be banning Shuma and Jill. However, you should not ban any of the AE characters, since there was also a disc release.
  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    The DLC characters (Skarlet, Kenshi, Rain, Freddy) should ALWAYS be banned (that's the way it should be in ANY game unless they are free, b/c they are dependent on the player (a) having internet and (b) making a purchase). Believe it or not, I know at least one person that doesn't have the DLC b/c he has never hooked his PS3 up to the internet. Kratos is also banned because he's console specific if you are using the PS3 version. The other characters are all fine. The only characters that you need to unlock are Cyber Sub Zero and Quan Chi, but someone needs to do that in advance b/c it takes a looooooong time to go through story mode.

    EDIT: Also if you are using the PS3 version, Kratos' stage is also banned - the screen shakes when you are on it, and if you aren't used to it (i.e.: if you only play the XBox version and have never been to a tournament, etc.), then it gives your opponent an unfair advantage.

    EDIT AGAIN: By that same logic, you should be banning Shuma and Jill. However, you should not ban any of the AE characters, since there was also a disc release.
    the only problem i have with this logic is if you are going to ban characters because of a person not going online then what about patches? I personally dont mind them being banned because as a TO myself it is easier but after a certain amount of time of them being out i dont see a problem with them. even if you dont buy them you still will play them several times online, i mean hell how many times have you faced a kensin online. i rarely play and i still see him.

    by the way chris i am trying to make it to this and if i do you can count on me to bring a setup and i have all the characters.
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    the only problem i have with this logic is if you are going to ban characters because of a person not going online then what about patches? I personally dont mind them being banned because as a TO myself it is easier but after a certain amount of time of them being out i dont see a problem with them. even if you dont buy them you still will play them several times online, i mean hell how many times have you faced a kensin online. i rarely play and i still see him.

    by the way chris i am trying to make it to this and if i do you can count on me to bring a setup and i have all the characters.

    cool dude! I hope to see you there!
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  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    The DLC characters (Skarlet, Kenshi, Rain, Freddy) should ALWAYS be banned (that's the way it should be in ANY game unless they are free, b/c they are dependent on the player (a) having internet and (b) making a purchase). Believe it or not, I know at least one person that doesn't have the DLC b/c he has never hooked his PS3 up to the internet. Kratos is also banned because he's console specific if you are using the PS3 version. The other characters are all fine. The only characters that you need to unlock are Cyber Sub Zero and Quan Chi, but someone needs to do that in advance b/c it takes a looooooong time to go through story mode.

    EDIT: Also if you are using the PS3 version, Kratos' stage is also banned - the screen shakes when you are on it, and if you aren't used to it (i.e.: if you only play the XBox version and have never been to a tournament, etc.), then it gives your opponent an unfair advantage.

    EDIT AGAIN: By that same logic, you should be banning Shuma and Jill. However, you should not ban any of the AE characters, since there was also a disc release.

    Awesome! Thanks for the advice. I'm fighting Kan where you have to be him with lu kang. how much further do i have? lol
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  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    the only problem i have with this logic is if you are going to ban characters because of a person not going online then what about patches? I personally dont mind them being banned because as a TO myself it is easier but after a certain amount of time of them being out i dont see a problem with them. even if you dont buy them you still will play them several times online, i mean hell how many times have you faced a kensin online. i rarely play and i still see him.

    That's the beauty of the argument - gameplay balancing patches are put there by the developers as a "preferred requirement," meaning they're essentially making it our responsibility to make sure that the game is as close to what they want as possible - they are "necessary" to fulfill the full experience, and they are 100% free. DLC characters are extraneous - they aren't necessary. If player A doesn't get on the internet, that puts him at a disadvantage if he doesn't have the patches, but at that point, it's on the player, not on you. You can't make that same argument with DLC. Patches are free, DLC is not :) You essentially have someone else to blame at that point.

    @Chris - there are 14 scenarios, I think. You get a cheevo/trophy for getting halfway through, which is Jade's IIRC.
  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    That's the beauty of the argument - gameplay balancing patches are put there by the developers as a "preferred requirement," meaning they're essentially making it our responsibility to make sure that the game is as close to what they want as possible - they are "necessary" to fulfill the full experience, and they are 100% free. DLC characters are extraneous - they aren't necessary. If player A doesn't get on the internet, that puts him at a disadvantage if he doesn't have the patches, but at that point, it's on the player, not on you. You can't make that same argument with DLC. Patches are free, DLC is not :) You essentially have someone else to blame at that point.

    @Chris - there are 14 scenarios, I think. You get a cheevo/trophy for getting halfway through, which is Jade's IIRC.

    I disagree patches and DLC are the same the only difference is cost. you are saying if they dont have the patches it is on the player but if they dont have the dlc then it is unfair. DLC characters are also what the developers consider "preferred requirement." they are usually characters they have on the disk anyway and you just have to unlock them with a key(shuma and Jill)

    If your only objection is cost, what about people that cant get broadband where they live(there are still areas, there are several in spartanburg) they cant get the patches so they are at a disadvantage, so that is on the player but the guy wont shell out $10 for a couple characters is in the right?

    What is $10 when you are paying $30 for a venue fee and another $10 per game to go to a big tournament,

    this is kind of a silly argument anyway because what player do you know that is hardcore enough to go to a tournament but is not going to get every new character that comes along.
  • DEZ 187DEZ 187 Joined: Posts: 151
    I disagree patches and DLC are the same the only difference is cost. you are saying if they dont have the patches it is on the player but if they dont have the dlc then it is unfair. DLC characters are also what the developers consider "preferred requirement." they are usually characters they have on the disk anyway and you just have to unlock them with a key(shuma and Jill)

    If your only objection is cost, what about people that cant get broadband where they live(there are still areas, there are several in spartanburg) they cant get the patches so they are at a disadvantage, so that is on the player but the guy wont shell out $10 for a couple characters is in the right?

    What is $10 when you are paying $30 for a venue fee and another $10 per game to go to a big tournament,

    this is kind of a silly argument anyway because what player do you know that is hardcore enough to go to a tournament but is not going to get every new character that comes along.

    it's more about tournament ethics than anything. you use those rules because those are the rules that the majors use. its a standard. if you are running tournaments in your community, you want the players in your community to be use to the rules when they travel outside of the area to compete.
  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    it's more about tournament ethics than anything. you use those rules because those are the rules that the majors use. its a standard. if you are running tournaments in your community, you want the players in your community to be use to the rules when they travel outside of the area to compete.
    100% agree with you, i was just stating an opinion on the rule i am not saying we should deviate from it. I do think the rules will be lighted up over time as most are based off of rules from the old arcade scene that we all know and grew up with. DLC is the present and future and i dont see it slowing down. if you look at UMVC3 where we could have 10+ DLC characters(just a personal feeling capcom will milk it) by the time the next evo rolls around i would find it hard to believe that they will ban them. The only reason i think they banned the MK9 ones is they where not out for very long and they didnt want to have the random factor.
  • Dr. FaustDr. Faust Charging all day long Joined: Posts: 578
    Yo guys I just found this place called //dotgames that is willing to let us host tournaments. They are just opening and they have all kinds of stuff, like videogames, cardgames, OSTs, old school games,and Imported games(along with stuff that allows you to play imported games legally). The located in the shopping center across the Citadel Mall in West Ashly . Its in that shopping center with Ross For Less,Monster Music & Movies, World Food Mart and so on. They'll have a facebook soon so keep in check with that. All the guys are really cool and friendly. They also host different tournaments every day. Their open for business now but their still setting stuff up.

    Their address: 946 Orleans Rd., Suite B-10, Charleston SC.

    Store Hours: Open 7 Days: M-Sa 10am to 9pm, Su. Noon-5pm.

    Phone: (843)-763-3111

    Website: www.realrpgfan.com

    FB(IDK if this is for the one in SC or Michigan) : www.facebook.com/dotgames
    Steam: johnfewiv
    SF: Vega(Claw)
    GG:Axl
    BB: Carl
    T7: Lee
  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    I disagree patches and DLC are the same the only difference is cost. you are saying if they dont have the patches it is on the player but if they dont have the dlc then it is unfair. DLC characters are also what the developers consider "preferred requirement." they are usually characters they have on the disk anyway and you just have to unlock them with a key(shuma and Jill)

    If your only objection is cost, what about people that cant get broadband where they live(there are still areas, there are several in spartanburg) they cant get the patches so they are at a disadvantage, so that is on the player but the guy wont shell out $10 for a couple characters is in the right?

    What is $10 when you are paying $30 for a venue fee and another $10 per game to go to a big tournament,

    this is kind of a silly argument anyway because what player do you know that is hardcore enough to go to a tournament but is not going to get every new character that comes along.

    Let me simplify the argument a little bit. Forget about the "I don't have internet" piece of it for the following 2 points:

    1) Developers release a free patch to improve on game play or fix bugs. This is how they intend for the game to be played from that point forward. If you are going to go compete in a tournament, we as tournament directors can (fairly) say that we expect you to have the patch. We can even put that in the rules, and usually, we do. We have a legitimate argument - it is free, therefore we can expect you to be familiar with it. Fair.

    2) "Hey Phil, I expect you to pay $14.95 so that you can be familiar with the characters that I'm going to allow at this tournament. If you don't, that's your own fault. Guess you shouldn't have bought that extra 4 gallons of gas." You're now forcing someone to spend additional money to be able to fairly compete. Not fair.

    Now, the only reason you can sort-of get away with the internet argument is b/c chances are if someone is going to compete in a tournament, they're already serious enough about it to be playing online. That's still not totally, 100% fair, but we can bend the rules a little there because of the state of the gaming community and the role the internet plays.

    Your UMvC3 argument doesn't work, because it's the same as the AE argument - at that point you're putting a different name on the game, and that name comes with 10 new characters, therefore if you're going to compete in that name's tournament, you are expected to be familiar with said characters. Otherwise, you'd be playing in an MvC3 tournament, not a UMvC3 tournament.

    Finally, none of my arguments are silly :) All it takes is one salty Darth Vader/Yoda/Link/Heihachi/Spawn loss, and your tournament is ruined. Surely you of all people have experienced that?
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Kyah sorry If I started something here... haha.

    Corner Trapa hey!!! Shame Shame on you posting ELITE ZONE in here on the day of my tourney, lol. Now If I wasn't holding one I wouldn't mind then hahaha. Sorry If I'm stealing some of your spot light homie! I'm just trying to do my own thing here. : D
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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    Let me simplify the argument a little bit. Forget about the "I don't have internet" piece of it for the following 2 points:

    1) Developers release a free patch to improve on game play or fix bugs. This is how they intend for the game to be played from that point forward. If you are going to go compete in a tournament, we as tournament directors can (fairly) say that we expect you to have the patch. We can even put that in the rules, and usually, we do. We have a legitimate argument - it is free, therefore we can expect you to be familiar with it. Fair.

    2) "Hey Phil, I expect you to pay $14.95 so that you can be familiar with the characters that I'm going to allow at this tournament. If you don't, that's your own fault. Guess you shouldn't have bought that extra 4 gallons of gas." You're now forcing someone to spend additional money to be able to fairly compete. Not fair.

    Now, the only reason you can sort-of get away with the internet argument is b/c chances are if someone is going to compete in a tournament, they're already serious enough about it to be playing online. That's still not totally, 100% fair, but we can bend the rules a little there because of the state of the gaming community and the role the internet plays.

    Your UMvC3 argument doesn't work, because it's the same as the AE argument - at that point you're putting a different name on the game, and that name comes with 10 new characters, therefore if you're going to compete in that name's tournament, you are expected to be familiar with said characters. Otherwise, you'd be playing in an MvC3 tournament, not a UMvC3 tournament.

    Finally, none of my arguments are silly :) All it takes is one salty Darth Vader/Yoda/Link/Heihachi/Spawn loss, and your tournament is ruined. Surely you of all people have experienced that?
    yea console exclusive ones have and always be dumb. as far as the UMVC3 argument i mean there will probably be another 10+ after the game is out not including the ones announced.
    I know you want to hold on to the old ways(i do to most of the time) but i think times will change, it is kind of like how 3xP and 3xK is able to be a binded button now because of the default config. in the past even if it was default you would have to change it but now it is accepted, hell there is even a dash button in mcv3. times are changing and i think this is one area it will change.

    quick question for anyone that knows, in Call of Duty tournaments do they allow the DLC map packs?
  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    quick question for anyone that knows, in Call of Duty tournaments do they allow the DLC map packs?

    Only if they are free. See the above argument :)
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Hey guys I hope you all that are coming to Summer Wars on Saturday are pumped! I know I am. looks like a pretty good turn out. I don't know how many to expect but... I'd honestly say well over 25 people... lol. Maybe even more than 30 i guess. I can't wait! I'm so excited
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  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    Chris, I'm most definitely not going to have time to play in the tournament just because of how late we're getting in, but I'll stop by and see everyone regardless. So don't wait on me or anything, although I appreciate the offer :)
  • LOC_4HMLOC_4HM Joined: Posts: 17
    It would be great to see you at this event! There is a $1000 guaranteed pot for SSF4:AE. All the details can be found here!
    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.ph...-salt-9-24-2011-norfolk-va-norfolk-va.143383/
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Chris, I'm most definitely not going to have time to play in the tournament just because of how late we're getting in, but I'll stop by and see everyone regardless. So don't wait on me or anything, although I appreciate the offer :)

    Yeah dude! Heck man I'm just looking forward to seeing ya again. It has been age's dude. You Sir are mostly the reason why this event has happened and also I've been wanting to hold a tourney soon. I also plan on doing my very very best to bring the people together here as much as possible and actually have a scene here again. There are some people just coming outta the wood work here lol. I'm like where did all these people come from hahaha. It's good to know that they are out there. All it took was a lil inspiration and here we are. I hope you and your family have a safe trip here dude!
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  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    It would be great to see you at this event! There is a $1000 guaranteed pot for SSF4:AE. All the details can be found here!
    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.ph...-salt-9-24-2011-norfolk-va-norfolk-va.143383/

    You gonna get me a plane ticket to come up there? lol:lol:
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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    well it sucks guys but i wont be there this weekend. We where taking my dad to Lake jocassee for the his birthday this past saturday and we rented a boat for him. When we got there the boat motor blew so we couldnt go. They said they could make it up to us by giving us a free weekend another time and the only time they had left was the 20th. so sorry Chris i cant go, i will make the next one rain or shine. Good luck man i was really looking forward to this
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    well it sucks guys but i wont be there this weekend. We where taking my dad to Lake jocassee for the his birthday this past saturday and we rented a boat for him. When we got there the boat motor blew so we couldnt go. They said they could make it up to us by giving us a free weekend another time and the only time they had left was the 20th. so sorry Chris i cant go, i will make the next one rain or shine. Good luck man i was really looking forward to this

    It's cool dude. I understand! Stuff comes up and things happen. Look forward to the coming events.
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    Hey guys! I finally made a episode for summer wars! I plan on doing as much coverage of stuff as possible. So look forward to episodes of info and events. I'm going to do my best to make this stuff work! I hope you guys enjoy it!
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  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    Who are the people trolling on the Facebook page? I'll bring some cheddar biscuits if I can slap some people in the face with them.
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Who are the people trolling on the Facebook page? I'll bring some cheddar biscuits if I can slap some people in the face with them.
    lmao! Yeah, I dk what is up with the cheddar biscuits... I was asking a serious question and then it turned into this.
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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    Good luck today guys i will be at Jocassee wishing you well.
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    My town is full of Traps

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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195

    i thought i would let everyone know i am building a movie room and to make some extra space i am selling my arcade cabs. the prices on craigslist but pm me if you are interested and i will knock them down a little for shoryuken people.

    ST2HF http://greenville.craigslist.org/vgm/2564573686.html
    Neo geo 4 slot http://greenville.craigslist.org/vgm/2564561331.html
    Golden Tee http://greenville.craigslist.org/vgm/2564549446.html
    I have several boards WWF Wrestlefest, SFA2(phoenix edition), Raiden 2, MK2, MK1, and Double Dragon.
    i also have a mame project coctail cab that is empty i am selling for $150 if anyone is interested PM me
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Hey Everybody! I'm starting a Youtube show! Check it out! I hope all you guys will help support it! Your Help would be greatly appreciated!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/BingoPunchSE?feature=mhee
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  • BobSmackBobSmack BV CTO / FR Administrator Joined: Posts: 2,519 mod
    Crickets? Where is everyone? What's up with those jacked up results? Why are you all not playing MK Collection right now instead of reading this???
  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    actually i was going to buy the collection how is the online Kyah?
  • KeNpunch12KeNpunch12 Joined: Posts: 244
    Crickets? Where is everyone? What's up with those jacked up results? Why are you all not playing MK Collection right now instead of reading this???
    I was gonna say the same thing... Where the heck is everyone. Anyways guys I just finished up the first episode of Bingo Punch and put in on the Youtube's! Go check it out! I hope you guys like it!

    http://www.youtube.com/bingopunchse
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  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195
    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/wts-arcade-parts-machines-segasaturn-import-lot-sticks-case-buttons-ect-massive-amount.145255/

    if anyone is interested i am selling a ton of stuff, everything from Arcade parts to import fighting games to sticks. This is about 1/3 of what i am going to sell so if you are just curious of what you can collect after 30 years of gaming take a look.
  • filldohfilldoh Chief Beata Bitch Joined: Posts: 1,195

    GVegas Beatdown 7 is official November 5th. With over 100 people last time in attendance this one should be bigger!!
    MK9
    MVC3
    SC2
    Third Strike
    AH3
    KOF13
    SF4AE

    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/nov-5-2011-g-vegas-beatdown-7-greenville-sc-over-3000-sq-feet-last-call-for-greenville-sc.145291/
  • thehurricanethehurricane Joined: Posts: 492
    I know u guys are upstate but I might as well give it a shot. Charleston finally has a place of venue that can host games on the reg. I'm hoping it turns out to be like Next Level in NY.

    We can now host biweekly sunday tournaments. This one is Sept 11. But then the next one is Sept 25. I hope some of yall can make it.
    http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/sep-11-2011-sunday-battle-of-the-gods-charleston-sc.144257/
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