"Work on your movements, Chap! Dudley Critique Thread

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  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    Just your friendly neighborhood scrubly, you might recognize me from a comment or two an a youtube video of you and mellow awhile back
    o ok
    tut
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • XtreetracerXXtreetracerX Joined: Posts: 53
    way ahead of you, I'm subscribed to your channel and follow tut, still have a lot of work to do but thanks to tut and determination I've improved some what......................................I think :\
  • TrgamemasTrgamemas The man of Faith Joined: Posts: 202
    way ahead of you, I'm subscribed to your channel and follow tut, still have a lot of work to do but thanks to tut and determination I've improved some what......................................I think :\
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  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    Best PSN Dudley

    Ya I am
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • XtreetracerXXtreetracerX Joined: Posts: 53
    Thirtyfour reppin the PSN
  • FloorFloor presses buttons Joined: Posts: 503
    Thirtyfour reppin the PSN
    I highly doubt that.
    "Yo how does it feel to press 7 million buttons, and he beat you with 5?"
  • Fore God ViiFore God Vii Level 2 Member Joined: Posts: 475
    need critiquing against juicebox uploading soon

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  • ReewindReewind Joined: Posts: 670
    played some endless tonight on pc since my live expired like a month ago. took me 4 hours to upload thanks to canadian internet.

    anyway i wanted to post the ones where i got beaten hard by some good fei long/yun player but i forgot to save it. so instead i uploaded the latest ones that were still in my battle log. i won most of the match though, probably because the guy player didn't really know the matchup (neither did i), and there's this dudley around 16m but he doesn't count since i think he just started playing him.



    any feedback is welcome
    i forgot to censor the names
    enjoy watching me walkbalk for 30m
  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    enjoy watching me walkbalk for 30m

    That feel when you drop a s.HK cancel that would have stunned for the game...

    That was solid play. You just think ur bad since you don't play much.

    Check your XBL dashboard sometimes when you dont have gold (lol never do recurring).
    I got 2 months for 2$ yesterday.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • MeLLoWMeLLoW Joined: Posts: 1,843
    why is it 34 minutes?

    also, I remember when I said this a few months ago, reewindo has some of the best footsies with Dudley. gg ill watch later.
  • ReewindReewind Joined: Posts: 670
    .
    yeah for some reason i messed up every single cr.hp, st.hk links and occasionally f.hk, st.hk links. it's not even because it was online (there wasn't any lag), i can pretty much hitconfirm those 90% online/offline (lmao missing the links after focus crumple). what i mostly wanted to do was to cr.hp, st.hk xx ex duck into grab on a hard scaled dizzied opponent since the ex duck looks like ex machine gun blow and the pushback of cr.hp combined with st.hk kind of makes them let go of controller or they're mashing ultra/reversal which still makes me safe and can punish them hard for it. learned this a long time ago by watching some of the HJMxp's replays.

    and i don't know man i just recently started playing sf4 again after a long break and i'm doing much better all of a sudden. also i'm really stingy when it comes down to gold live because i feel cheated out for paying peer to peer connection filled with ads (but for some reason i spent $75 on LoL pls kill me). i always renew my live for $1/$2 though.
    why is it 34 minutes?
    now that you mention it the video is 34 minutes long and for some reason my pp is 34xx. no idea it's not like i'm doing this to reference 34. even my home address has 34 on it..

    well to sum it up i'm still trying to get rid of my turtling habit with dudley and moving backwards (and trying to graduate level 2 tutorials). i even have a memo attached to my monitor that says "move forward".
  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    "move forward".

    lol at everything
    I thought I was the only one that used big link into s.HK xx EX duck grab reset for those reasons..
    I havn't played LoL before but I think it's F2P so lol.
    I lived at 34 before too that was right next to a bus stop for #34, that took me to NYC's 34th street.
    Everyone has bad habits lol. Mines usually come with whatever character i'm facing.
    like vs Yun I don't anti air for shit, or vs Vega I dont use cross counter or ex upper as me anti airs.

    I could play 2012 on me laptop.

    wb gl also lemme knwo what u want in the OSs tut in me thread
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • MeLLoWMeLLoW Joined: Posts: 1,843
    i have many horrible bad habits that cost me matches, i lose to stuff i shouldn't be losing to. it's just i haven't been able to adapt very well and i never learn from my mistakes. sometimes it's the reason i stop playing so i hope those bad habits just disappear somehow.
  • ReewindReewind Joined: Posts: 670
    I havn't played LoL before but I think it's F2P so lol.
    LoL is such a shitty game and has THE WORST playerbase. i have no idea why i kept playing this game for so long and even spend money on it. team games are shit in general but LoL and other moba games take it to a whole new level, basically it's a blame game / pay 2 win and a huge time sink. some retard gets caught? blame the team. same retard loses his lane? blame the jungler. someone spams "gg noob team" in all chat every 10 seconds? OFUBFAOUBFH. solo queue? get matched with retards & you've got to carry them. it doesn't help that the developers are trying to make it even more casual by making the game so one dimensional (i'm pretty sure some blazblue devs works for RIOT). i don't like league of legends.

    anyway i'll delete my replay and reupload it if anyone wants it.
  • Fore God ViiFore God Vii Level 2 Member Joined: Posts: 475
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  • ReewindReewind Joined: Posts: 670
    you mean dota2.
    it's pretty much the same thing except it's less braindead and every heroes have CRAZYYYY abilities which makes the game more fun and balanced since everyone is broken in some way.

    anyway it will share the same fate as HoN.
  • ReewindReewind Joined: Posts: 670
    played a fei long and ken yesterday
  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48

    This is a replay of mine online that someone took the liberty of uploading for me.
    I had a few sequences of autopilot-ness in here but overall I think I did well. What does the dudley forums think? lol Match is on 14:56 btw. I play absolutely terrible in the third round btw. I'm fully aware of that. haha Lost patience there and just wanted to secure the match
  • GefenGefen Joined: Posts: 1,381
    You should buy a suit, definitely lacking a suit.
  • XtreetracerXXtreetracerX Joined: Posts: 53
    You have to play U1 against e-honda it takes away all his head butts
  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48
    I am aware of that but with me using a pad and ultra 1 being on a kick button I have a difficulty timing it to reversal his headbutts. Those damn trigger buttons. lol. I just try to predict headbutts by neutral jumping and punishing with ex mgb when I land.
  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    Ultra 1 vs Honda punishes neutral jumps mainly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48
    I knew that it punishes headbutts but I had no idea it punishes Honda's neutral jump.
    I'ma have to test that out in training mode, sounds somewhat risky to do though.
  • cliffesidecliffeside brilliant idiot Joined: Posts: 769
    I knew that it punishes headbutts but I had no idea it punishes Honda's neutral jump.
    I'ma have to test that out in training mode, sounds somewhat risky to do though.
    it is. better off using (ex) duck upper for those.

    you can U2 vs honda but it requires your main game to be on point and you'd have to learn how to fight headbutts the hard way. vs honda is pretty much the same as fighting bison except 10 times harder cause honda has more options and damage.
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  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48
    it is. better off using (ex) duck upper for those.

    you can U2 vs honda but it requires your main game to be on point and you'd have to learn how to fight headbutts the hard way. vs honda is pretty much the same as fighting bison except 10 times harder cause honda has more options and damage.
    I don't think I show cased it in the video but I do often use ex duck upper to punish those neutral jumps, but most of the time I'm try to just use mk/hk duck upper, and which doesn't always necessarily work in dud's favor. Risky but much less expensive. lol. But ever since I found some new tech vs honda (well newish for me) particularly just that meaty kidney blow and cr lk beat out his reversals on wakeup (I.E. you are given time to block afterwards) and that you can neutral jump ex headbutt to punish headbutt on the other side with ex mgb on his wakeup and when you are at frame advantage (need more testing on that but in my match experience it seems true) Honda is not as scary as a matchup as it used to be. and ever since you posted that Bipson info about standing during scissor kick pressure he's also not as much as a threat as before.
  • cliffesidecliffeside brilliant idiot Joined: Posts: 769
    I don't think I show cased it in the video but I do often use ex duck upper to punish those neutral jumps, but most of the time I'm try to just use mk/hk duck upper, and which doesn't always necessarily work in dud's favor. Risky but much less expensive. lol. But ever since I found some new tech vs honda (well newish for me) particularly just that meaty kidney blow and cr lk beat out his reversals on wakeup (I.E. you are given time to block afterwards) and that you can neutral jump ex headbutt to punish headbutt on the other side with ex mgb on his wakeup and when you are at frame advantage (need more testing on that but in my match experience it seems true) Honda is not as scary as a matchup as it used to be. and ever since you posted that Bipson info about standing during scissor kick pressure he's also not as much as a threat as before.

    imo, dud needs meter to fight honda cause his ex moves shut down or punishes a lot of honda's most used tools. i try to save 1 bar at all times.
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  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48
    imo, dud needs meter to fight honda cause his ex moves shut down or punishes a lot of honda's most used tools. i try to save 1 bar at all times.
    Yeah that makes sense, I tend to like spending the meter to push him to the corner with Ex MGB too because Honda is much less efficient in the corner. With EX headbutt being punishable by U2 on block and being able to shutout butt splash with focus attack crumple on his way down. and all.
    In the Honda matchup I have a terrible habit of releasing my focus attack too early against the second hit of buttsplash thus giving him a free counter hit. Ah that just gets so annoying, lol and it happens in the match too.
  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    particularly just that meaty kidney blow and cr lk beat out his reversals on wakeup .

    f.MK will lose to EX Headbutt it can only be used vs 11+ frame reversals when done the meatiest.

    in upcoming tut i show and explain OSs with f.MK and cross counter.
    you can do a f.MK blockstring into s.LK MK OS'd with f.MK or f.MK OS'd with cross counter / lp jet upper to beat hi sbackdash/buttslam

    U1 punishes all jump backs / nuetral jumps if they empty jump it's waaaaaaaaaaay harder to punish the jump but if they do a normal the trip guard thing allows more room for error.
    I'm releasing a lv 1 extras just on Duck Upper since i left it out (it was gonna be in bs and pressure but that made no sense) It was in the Swarmer AE tut way back when.

    lmao ex empty duck > ultra 2 anti air
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • PunchyPugilistPunchyPugilist Joined: Posts: 48
    f.MK will lose to EX Headbutt it can only be used vs 11+ frame reversals when done the meatiest.

    in upcoming tut i show and explain OSs with f.MK and cross counter.
    you can do a f.MK blockstring into s.LK MK OS'd with f.MK or f.MK OS'd with cross counter / lp jet upper to beat hi sbackdash/buttslam
    And I assume that that same OS you mentioned can be applied to wake up to beat buttsplash too correct? I generally always use fierce jet upper for my kidney blow option selects except for the characters that it whiffs on.
    will it cover ex buttsplash also though? Oh my mistake, it is Cr lk that beats out 8 frame reversals. I assumed kidney blow worked on those too for some reason.
  • Fore God ViiFore God Vii Level 2 Member Joined: Posts: 475
    someone pls critique?
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  • MafamaticksMafamaticks Where'd ya life go? Joined: Posts: 779
    Tick throws?
  • GefenGefen Joined: Posts: 1,381


    Some offline casual of my scrubby Dudley (as well as the other players).
    In the video page you can see the time for each match-up.

    I would even appreciate Mellow calling me worst Dudley europe or something.
  • TurivolTurivol Joined: Posts: 12




    Hey guys, what you guys think about that matchs? I would like to hear some tips on what work on.
  • GefenGefen Joined: Posts: 1,381
    Fist, get into habit of uploading videos you feel you played well but still lost instead of your wins.
    Second, Tut.

    - I would say your blockstrings are weak, but you don't really have those.
    - Can't tell much about how you move around (i.e. footsies) but something felt wrong.
    - Links, combos, etc..
    - Sim should have zoned you more with his limbs, and it probably would have stuffed all you reckless mgb and jumps. (cr.mk is a good idea though)

    I'm just scrub so don't listen to me.

    tut
  • TurivolTurivol Joined: Posts: 12
    Thanks for your reply!
    Well, about my blockstrings that was due to some laggy, especially with DJ. But you're right, i have to work on this. About footsies i think i rely on f.hp / st.hp and focus too much, its hard to use cr.mk and cr.mp cause of its low reach.And yeah, my link are not reliable yet, i missed too much. Also missed some mgb inputs on the Sim one.





    (sorry about my bad english and thanks for the advices!)
  • ThirtyfourThirtyfour Wait Joined: Posts: 3,805
    learn what you can punish.
    you backdash when someone lands a move that's more than -5 on block, could at least do a HP Jet Upper if you cant s.HK punish.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvsCnWO9Qw
    SSF4: AE v.2012 Dudley Video Tutorial
  • MrTeaCupGLovesMrTeaCupGLoves Waiting Joined: Posts: 159
    Turivol- Simply put, you have zero pressure. Work on block strings, punishes, and the right combos. Don't always go for sweep, work on your oki. Also study TUT again
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  • Sassy FannypackSassy Fannypack Joined: Posts: 129
    I seem to suffer from a lot of the same issues as Turivol.


    Things I recognize:
    -No overheads on Oki
    -poor focus attack usage
    -no safe jumps (I don't really know any setups)
    -input error on ultra at end of round 1(not exactly sure if it would've AA'd but saw the setup coming)
    -backed off on Oki (living in the 1000-2000pp ghetto where players use invincible reversals 70% of the time on wake up got me scurred)
    -non stop jumping


    I honestly have terrible matchup knowledge and my attitude/playstyle makes it really hard to play against defensive characters/players.
    PLZ HELP.
  • heyoka-shepheyoka-shep Joined: Posts: 2


    This video is helpful, there a couple things that I wondered about with the cody dudley match up. I'll apply some of what I saw at Mind Games Ignition in January.

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  • MafamaticksMafamaticks Where'd ya life go? Joined: Posts: 779
    This video is helpful, there a couple things that I wondered about with the cody dudley match up. I'll apply some of what I saw at Mind Games Ignition in January.

    If by helpful you mean it helps you by showing you what NOT to do, then yeah.

    Besides all of the shit that both Cody and Dudley were doing wrong, this vid is 2 years old. Meaning the little (if any) stuff you think you can use in the Cody matchup probably doesn't apply in AE.
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