"Hey! Let's do this for real." Concept/Discovery/Match-up Videos

37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
Videos that help with learning matchups, explore concepts, or show insight into game play go here. Videos posted to be critiqued should go in Don't Jump's Cody Critique you can do better than that thread. It can be found here. http://shoryuken.com/f330/critique-my-cody-thread-you-can-do-better-than-248828/

The first part of the thread contains the concepts and the second part contains the match up videos. All characters have the number of videos contained inside their spoiler above the box. I'm hoping to be able to update this at least once a week.

I included the Ultra used by the Cody player for all the videos to make it easier to find a video relevant to your needs. When posting a video it would help a lot with the updates if you indicated whether the video was for match up purposes or to show a concept. Also, if you could include the Ultra used next to the match up posts that would be helpful.

If you find any mistakes or dead links let me know.
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  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    Concepts

    --Long Concepts Videos

    Sabr3 concept video


    Option Select Tutorial - Ryan Hunter


    --Match up Concepts

    Akuma
    Stand Roundhouse can trade with badly spaced air fireball covered jumpins


    M. Bison
    Bingo going through Psycho Crusher


    Rufus
    Using Crouch Medium kick to pass under Rufus's EX Messiah


    Regular Zonk can go through EX Messiah. Possibly only when cornered.


    Ryu
    Using Zonk to win a Fireball vs Bad Stone War (You have enough time to dash forward Zonk) and Max distance f.MP with a small walk back leaves cody right outside Ryu's crouch medium range, but in range for a big punish


    Vega
    Countering Vegas Wall Dives



    Zangief
    Standing Roundhouse beats Lariat clean
    - [SSF4


    --Combo and Move Concepts

    13:07 Ultra 2 rocks combos after EX Zonk anywhere on the screen. Good end game finisher
    Justin.tv - messymess - Sabre Streak

    A properly spaced anti air Criminal Upper can FADC into Ultra 1


    Using Walkforward jab with knife




    Timing Reversal Zonks






    Crouch HP Knife into sweep w/ plinking details


    30 hits at least 900 stun 624 Damage done against a 900 stun character(Gen)


    25 hits 710 dmg against Seth


    Cody Option Selects



    Ultra 2 as a jump Back Punisher
    - [SSF4


    More Option Selects in the OptionselectDotCom Video under Long Concepts

    Needs more exploration

    Using Fuzzy Guard


    A meaty Standing medium kick can combo into the slide (A 7 frame move) This means it can combo into Ultra 2. This need to be explored.
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    Sanchez vs Pimpbot (Cody's overhead beats Breathless U2 here)


    U2


    U2

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
    Geomodinside U2


    kawagu111chi (Japanese) vs Ndsg U1
    - [2010-08-16][Part6
    - Fujino [Akuma] vs kawagu111chi [Cody

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Sabr3 U2


    vVv Fear U2
    Ryu Akuma Blanka Ryu
    Endl3ssRampage(Cody) U2


    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Via-Vendetta U1





    Uziwgp U2
    - [2010-05-31][Part1

    Geomodinside U2






    mk-4618 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Sanchez (Cody) vs Fido (Blanka) (Good for learning corner pressure) U2
    Wednesday Night Fights USTREAM

    Via-Vendetta
    U1
    U2

    kawagu111chi vs Akimo (Japanese) U1
    - [2010-08-16][Part6

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4


    Sabr3 U2


    Ryan Hunter U2



    vVv Fear U2
    Ryu Akuma Blanka Ryu


    vVv Fear U2
    Fei Long, Guy, and Blanka
    Ryan Hunter U2



    GMMA_Jan U2
    - [Monster's Arcade (Ignore the title. It is wrong.)

    U2




    RoTb Fulgore VS. Shizza Grainy audio/video U1
    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
    Yeb(Cody) vs Sanchez(Cody) U2
    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
    - [SSF4

    Ryan Hunter U2






    dicek777 U2(Japanese)
    uziwgp U2(Japanese) aka How to dominate one of the world's best Dhalsim's


    dicek777 U2(Japanese)

    - [SSF4

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    Versus Dhalsim M Bison Gouken Rose and Ryu in that order
    To get to the video go here
    Nicovideo Redirector
    and paste in this URL
    ??????????????? PS3????????? ?????????????(9)
    Jibbo vs Hav U1









    Ryan Hunter U2

    Rizhall U2


    Pblaze30 U2


    Pabbs U2

    kawagu111chi (Japanese) U1
    - mayas2 [Fei] vs kawagu111chi [Cody

    dicek777 U2(Japanese)
    - [SSF4

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Ryan Hunter U2




    vVv Fear U2
    Fei Long, Guy, and Blanka
    vs(Desora 's Gouken) U1




    kawagu111chi (Japanese) U1


    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
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    Junnn (Watch this video for excellent pressure and block strings) U1


    - [Monster's Arcade U1

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
    - [SSF4

    Ryan Hunter U2


    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    Versus Dhalsim M Bison Gouken Rose and Ryu in that order
    To get to the video go here
    Nicovideo Redirector
    and paste in this URL
    ??????????????? PS3????????? ?????????????(9)
    Haneyama (Japanese Chunli player) vs Tsukimiya (Best Guy out there) U1
    Almost an hour worth of matches. Haneyama figures out the match after the 25 minute mark and wins most of the rounds after that. Good video for anyone have trouble with Guy.
    ????(?????) vs ????(??), Haneyama (Cody) vs Tsukimiya (Guy) ????????????????????????? tsukimiya on USTREAM. Xbox... Starts @ 9:20

    Via-Vendetta U2









    Ryan Hunter U2










    vVv Fear U2
    Fei Long, Guy, and Blanka
    Ryan Hunter U2




    Japanese Cody (includes Crack kick comboing into the Rocks of U2)
    ???IV????????1?????, ???IV????????1????? supa4blog on USTREAM. Video Game Marathon

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Sabr3 U2

    Via-Vendetta U2



    Sabr3 U2




    Via-Vendetta U1



    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Ryan Hunter U2






    Via-Vendetta U2

    Via-Vendetta U1



    Ryan Hunter U2




    U2


    Yeb (Cody) vs VicTheSlick
    U2

    Via-Vendetta
    U1
    U2

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2


    Ryan Hunter U2


    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    Versus Dhalsim M Bison Gouken Rose and Ryu in that order
    To get to the video go here
    Nicovideo Redirector
    and paste in this URL
    ??????????????? PS3????????? ?????????????(9)
    Via-Vendetta U2


    Ryan Hunter U2



    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    Versus Dhalsim M Bison Gouken Rose and Ryu in that order
    To get to the video go here
    Nicovideo Redirector
    and paste in this URL
    ??????????????? PS3????????? ?????????????(9)
    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
    adfail325 shutting down Ryu's Air Tatsu out of the corner U2


    U2



    Via-Vendetta U2




    kawagu111chi (Japanese) vs Daigo (Ryu) U1


    dicek777 U2(Japanese)
    - [SSF4

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4

    Ryan Hunter U2





    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    Versus Dhalsim M Bison Gouken Rose and Ryu in that order
    To get to the video go here
    Nicovideo Redirector
    and paste in this URL
    ??????????????? PS3????????? ?????????????(9)

    vVv Fear U2
    Ryu Akuma Blanka Ryu

    U2

    U1


    Ryan Hunter U2

    Via-Vendetta U1


    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
    - [SSF4

    i8600011 (Japanese) U2
    - [SSF4
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  • zUkUuzUkUu Theory Pro Joined: Posts: 4,396
    to do list for you:

    1. rename thread to "Lets do this for real!" - Tutorial and Match Up Videos
    1b. if you can't do it yaself, ask a moderator to do it
    2. ask a moderator to stickie your thread (describe your work)
    3. ask a moderator to destickie http://shoryuken.com/f330/youre-borin-crap-outta-me~-cody-video-thread-228999/ and make him stickie http://shoryuken.com/f330/critique-my-cody-thread-you-can-do-better-than-248828/ instead. (describe why: first thread has no purpose anymore, high level vids go into your thread, casual / lower level play into critiqu thread) + if he's nice let him change it to "You can do better than that..." - Discuss my Cody or sumthing like that [first comes quote, afterwards the purpose, stylin n stuff : D]
    4. placeholder
    5. see 2+3
    6. good work
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  • spookydonkeyspookydonkey savin it for nationals Joined: Posts: 463
    concept: bingoing thru psycho crusher



    not saying its always the best idea, just puttin it out there
    im spookydonkey i punish whiff dps/ultras w/throw so i can setup leet tekkaneeks like ½screen fadcknifepickup to avoid moves that wouldnt hitme anyway but i glow gold & beat people online hellastylin
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    concept: bingoing thru psycho crusher



    not saying its always the best idea, just puttin it out there

    Ahaha that combo at the end was great. A question about going through the psycho crusher. Can a regular bingo make it through the EX Version or only EX bingo? Also do you think it is possible to add in a clip to the video showing when sliding MK beats psycho crusher and when it loses, like the timing needed?

    Open question everyone, is there any way to turn the bingo into an option select that only activates if bison does a psycho crusher?
  • zUkUuzUkUu Theory Pro Joined: Posts: 4,396
    normal bingo goes thru it aswell.

    c.mk stuffs crusher or will trade if you slide allready (aka your active frames take place).

    OS bingo against crusher isn't possible in the way you want it, besides on wakeup. also i dont see why you would want it anyway. Unless you would die tru chip dmg, takin the crusher and block it to punish it afterwards seems like a better idea then dodging it.
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  • spookydonkeyspookydonkey savin it for nationals Joined: Posts: 463
    bingo or exzonk works... its just that dictator has to still be going forward or the bingo is going to lose invulnerability while the crusher is slowing/stopping & cody gets hit.

    so essentially its easier(not reaction wise, but for the bingo to pass thru) against ex psychocrusher since it moves faster & will more than likely go further behind the bingo

    & nah i dont generally try to c.mk psychocrusher... so i dont have any in replays :sweat:

    but i do have a few examples of knifadc i might throw into a short vid :rofl:
    im spookydonkey i punish whiff dps/ultras w/throw so i can setup leet tekkaneeks like ½screen fadcknifepickup to avoid moves that wouldnt hitme anyway but i glow gold & beat people online hellastylin
  • EnochrewtEnochrewt Falls down too much Joined: Posts: 74
    concept: bingoing thru psycho crusher



    not saying its always the best idea, just puttin it out there

    Sometimes it's nice to let your opponent you might have more options to deal with things than he thinks.

    Thanks for this thread, it's really helped put some things into focus that I need to work on. I played a ton of SF2 back in the day, and err, got incarcerated just after the The new Challengers. So coming into SSFIV has been an especially steep learning curve (I was still trying to throw with HP or HK lol), and the dedication you guys have in putting these threads together has made a world of difference. Thanks again.
  • garylokgarylok Joined: Posts: 29
    someone sticky this thread already!
  • spookydonkeyspookydonkey savin it for nationals Joined: Posts: 463
    combo concept: anti air focus attack followups



    theres a lot more you can do after an anti air focus attack depending on spacing & meter & such... posted everything i could land in training in the combo thread
    im spookydonkey i punish whiff dps/ultras w/throw so i can setup leet tekkaneeks like ½screen fadcknifepickup to avoid moves that wouldnt hitme anyway but i glow gold & beat people online hellastylin
  • NukleuZNukleuZ Norwegian Scrub Joined: Posts: 50
    Hi, don't know if it's worth a post.
    But if you haven't picked up the knife during the match yet and you land U2.
    When the U2 is finished you will always be directly above your knife and it's a good time to pick it up if you want.
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  • raweriioraweriio Joined: Posts: 359
    http://www.sf4tube.com/

    This is a good resource you can add vids form there.
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  • ElMouchoLocoElMouchoLoco Joined: Posts: 293
    Hi, don't know if it's worth a post.
    But if you haven't picked up the knife during the match yet and you land U2.
    When the U2 is finished you will always be directly above your knife and it's a good time to pick it up if you want.
    LOL !? Is this for real, everytime? Are you sure that the knife "teleports" to Cody's feet?
    Because if you do the ultra (or focus, or grab), you will drop the knife anyway, and that sure would make sense. I can't test it at the moment.

    Edit: I really doubt it, i think it won't be true.
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  • TostitoSalsaTostitoSalsa Joined: Posts: 148
    He's saying that after you land the ultra, when you recover, Cody always ends up in the middle of the stage, conveniently where the knife is so you can pick it up without interruption from the opponent.
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  • ElMouchoLocoElMouchoLoco Joined: Posts: 293
    yeah. I arived home... and yes, that's right.
    The knife starts in the middle of the map, and this is the place where cody ends after the ultra, so the knife will be there if you didn't pick it before.
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  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    I've been gone for a while, but I'm back! I didn't forget. I'm going to postsome of the matches that took place while I was gone and sort through them later on

    2 Concepts

    13:07 Ultra 2 rocks combos after EX Zonk anywhere on the screen. Good end game finisher
    Justin.tv - messymess - Sabre Streak

    Bingo going through Psycho Crusher


    Matchplay

    Sabre

    Justin.tv - messymess - Lamerboi vs Sabre Close call
    Justin.tv - ghostcoda - Valle (Guy) vs. Sabre (Cody) Guy


    Justin.tv - Peaceful Jay's Colosseum - Super Street Fighter IV Free4All [PRO LOBBY]
    2-45 guy valle
    6-00 Seth
    9-30 Juri

    Justin.tv - messymess - Sabre Streak
    9-00 akuma
    11-45 Vega 13-07 Ultra 2 rocks combo after EX Zonk anywhere on the screen
    14-00 Viper
    16-15 Chun-Li

    Justin.tv - messymess - Sabre Streak Pt.2
    00 Viper -Nice Comeback
    2:30 Sakura -Nice comback
    5-10 Akuma
    7-40 Guile
    10-50 Viper

    gouken


    Jr Akuma


    Justin.tv - Peaceful Jay's Colosseum - Super Street Fighter IV Free4All [PRO LOBBY]
    Mr. Cooleo U1

    00 Sagat
    2-15 Bison
    5-45 Balrog


    TostitoSalsa

    Excellent Pressure in all these videos
    Ryu



    Abel



    Vega



    Japanese Codys


    Uziwgp
    Guile
    - kyotojin [Guile] vs uziwgp [Cody
    Seth

    Viper


    Dmn3rd
    Ken


    Ryu


    Seth
    - Dnm3rd [Cody] vs amehurio [Seth Very Good match

    Kawagu11chi
    Balrog

    Cody vs Cody
    - kawagu111chi [Cody] vs dnm3rd [Cody

    M Bison
    - kawagu111chi [Cody] vs Isy9983 [Bison Very good match
    Seth



    2 New Japanese Players

    kurohige1011. He seems to find a lot of good spots to stick in EX Zonk.
    Abel

    Akuma

    Cody vs Cody
    - gatorinnguru [Cody] vs kurohige1011 [Cody
    - gatorinnguru [Cody] vs kurohige1011 [Cody

    Guy


    gatorinnguru. He uses Rocks into MK Ruffian if he gets a crumple but back dashes. Good move if you find yourself confused and far away after a crumple.
    Cody v Cody
    - junnnnn [Cody] vs gatorinnguru [Cody
    Ibuki

    Ryu
    - gatorinnguru [Cody] vs kiss shots [Ryu
    - Air [Ryu] vs gatorinnguru [Cody
    - Air [Ryu] vs gatorinnguru [Cody

    Seth
    - HIROPON309 [Seth] vs gatorinnguru [Cody
    Vega
  • vCo2vvCo2v Joined: Posts: 142
    haha that's crazy I just started using the rock mk ruffian after back dash crumple too after fiddling in practice.

    Loved it, loved every moment watching the uses of ex zonk. Splendid!!! I was just starting to use fake crossup ex zonk into my game also. Some of their timing on their release and charge of zonk was crazy. I've definitely just learned a lot watching them play.

    Now I know why they may have shortened his ex zonk.

    I'd have to say I'm lovin kurohige1011's style, but I play like gatorinnguru a lot more. However how the hell does gatorinnguru miss his nj. fp>cl.hp xx Hp. criminal upper so much?!? Plus I think he should have used some better frame traps. I also wonder why kurohige1011 preferred cr.lp>cr.lp>cr.lp xx criminal as his go to hit confirm (better damage or habit?). My goto hit confirm is usually cr.lp>cr.lp>cr.mp/cr.lk xx criminal.

    I can honestly say that these Japanese players are really good at footsies, way better than me. However I can feel pretty confident that I have a better execution. Goes to show I spend more time in training with execution than I do get to really play and improve my footsies.
  • NukleuZNukleuZ Norwegian Scrub Joined: Posts: 50
    Rock, mk ruffian after back dash crumple was a brilliant find!
    And thanks for answering for me TostitoSalsa :)
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  • refuse2loserefuse2lose block & punish Joined: Posts: 167
    Rock, mk ruffian after back dash crumple was a brilliant find!
    And thanks for answering for me TostitoSalsa :)

    i posted back dash crumple, jab Rock, mk ruffian in the combo thread over 3 months ago lol
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  • RellManeRellMane Puttin u on notice Joined: Posts: 444
    i posted back dash crumple, jab Rock, mk ruffian in the combo thread over 3 months ago lol

    use the bold feature...lol
  • NukleuZNukleuZ Norwegian Scrub Joined: Posts: 50
    I started with SSFIV like 2-3 weeks ago, a good find by you then :)
    It hit's with mp rock too doesn't it?
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  • HanylokymanHanylokyman LMC Loky Joined: Posts: 373
    Its the angle that changes, same damage. but if you could charge it it'd be kinda fancy
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  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    i posted back dash crumple, jab Rock, mk ruffian in the combo thread over 3 months ago lol

    That's why I made this thread, good stuff like that kept getting lost.

    It looks like EX CU beats the EX Messiah followups on block. I want to add this to the concepts section, but I'm not sure if it is universal for all of Rufus's Ex Messiah followups. Can someone check.

  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    2 really really good matches. I mean some very good play.

    This is the first video added to the thread with someone handling a very good ibuki well

    - Iyo [Ibuki] vs kawagu111chi [Cody

    This video is just great

    - kawagu111chi [Cody] vs MokkoriMokomiti [Bison

    Side note- Anyone willing to jump in and take the 2 minutes to test out if EX CU beats all of Rufus's followups
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    I was always under the impression you could only FADC a Criminal Upper before the hurricane came out. Is that not true on block?

  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    If you find yourself in a situation where you block a focus and go for the tech but your opponent jumps apparently jab comes out fast enough to hit them before they land and attack. If they attack you from the air though you are still SOL

  • zUkUuzUkUu Theory Pro Joined: Posts: 4,396
    that's only the start animation of the criminal upper, it doesn't hit, but it's indeed a tricky optical illusion to deceive your follow up.
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  • bamsy23bamsy23 Joined: Posts: 10
    2 new vids from i8600011, the second one is awesome!!!

    - [SSF4

    - [SSF4
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    2 new vids from i8600011, the second one is awesome!!!

    - [SSF4

    - [SSF4

    Thank you sir. That was a dirty dirty reset. I think I might add that to the concepts section. The same with his use of back strong to deflect kunai. Also, I've never seen someone so consistently land HP counter hit into crouch HP full combo.

    On a separate note still no one out there that can test out the Rufus thing for me?
  • RellManeRellMane Puttin u on notice Joined: Posts: 444
    ef rufus....


    that reset was stylin...i looked like look at the damage
  • ice_reiice_rei Packz Joined: Posts: 304
    Thank you sir. That was a dirty dirty reset. I think I might add that to the concepts section. The same with his use of back strong to deflect kunai. Also, I've never seen someone so consistently land HP counter hit into crouch HP full combo.

    On a separate note still no one out there that can test out the Rufus thing for me?

    I mentioned this in the comments on that video. The reset wasn't what was 'sick' or 'dirty', it was the fact that he anticipated that elist_ would go for a grab in that situation which is what most players would do and therefore he set up a meaty cl.hp. That's what is so amazing about that, I see players always resetting like that but they just go for throws.
  • spookydonkeyspookydonkey savin it for nationals Joined: Posts: 463
    Also, I've never seen someone so consistently land HP counter hit into crouch HP full combo.

    On a separate note still no one out there that can test out the Rufus thing for me?

    i86 has ch fierce, c.fierce magic. dudes sick :china:

    about that rufus thing: messed around w/it in the cell &&&
    (as i suspected)youre gonna be hard pressed to get a really complete grasp of using just ex cu in that situation due to any or a combination of 4 factors:

    how many hits/on hit or on block/distance/how quick or delayed the followup is

    example

    ex mess+mk followup
    1-5hits on block,immediate follow up = trade/lose(tho you can sneak u2 in) ...depending on distance :lol:
    1-5hits on hit,immediate follow up = ex cu wins

    changes for the hk followup depending on those factors as well
    lk followup = block hahah even if ruf delays it itll most likely trade
    im spookydonkey i punish whiff dps/ultras w/throw so i can setup leet tekkaneeks like ½screen fadcknifepickup to avoid moves that wouldnt hitme anyway but i glow gold & beat people online hellastylin
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    i86 has ch fierce, c.fierce magic. dudes sick :china:

    about that rufus thing: messed around w/it in the cell &&&
    (as i suspected)youre gonna be hard pressed to get a really complete grasp of using just ex cu in that situation due to any or a combination of 4 factors:

    how many hits/on hit or on block/distance/how quick or delayed the followup is

    example

    ex mess+mk followup
    1-5hits on block,immediate follow up = trade/lose(tho you can sneak u2 in) ...depending on distance :lol:
    1-5hits on hit,immediate follow up = ex cu wins

    changes for the hk followup depending on those factors as well
    lk followup = block hahah even if ruf delays it itll most likely trade

    Thank you very much for doing that. So what you are saying is a Reversal EX CU not always win? The EX CU you tried were all reversal right?
  • NorvilleRogersNorvilleRogers Joined: Posts: 2
    2 new vids from i8600011, the second one is awesome!!!

    - [SSF4

    - [SSF4


    After watching i86 a friend and decide to hit training mode to see if the j.mk reset is character specific, it is, but we found something that i find interesting.

    On Cammy & DeeJay: The j.mk doesn't actually cross-up, it hits in front of them but the reset still happens. You have enough time to dash for a cross-under before they touch the ground.

    Speaking on cross-unders, i'm not sure if this is already mentioned some where but you can cross-under after any Ex CU thats hits in the air (i.e f.hk, Ex CU) It's Character specific and corner only.

    - NR

  • spookydonkeyspookydonkey savin it for nationals Joined: Posts: 463
    Thank you very much for doing that. So what you are saying is a Reversal EX CU not always win? The EX CU you tried were all reversal right?

    no prob. yeah i was going for reversal. like i was saying exmess can put you in hellafied blockstun but sometimes significantly less hit stun... depending which hits touch you @ what distance... lol theres just a lot of variables :sweat:
    im spookydonkey i punish whiff dps/ultras w/throw so i can setup leet tekkaneeks like ½screen fadcknifepickup to avoid moves that wouldnt hitme anyway but i glow gold & beat people online hellastylin
  • 37ventt37ventt Joined: Posts: 196
    After watching i86 a friend and decide to hit training mode to see if the j.mk reset is character specific, it is, but we found something that i find interesting.

    On Cammy & DeeJay: The j.mk doesn't actually cross-up, it hits in front of them but the reset still happens. You have enough time to dash for a cross-under before they touch the ground.

    Speaking on cross-unders, i'm not sure if this is already mentioned some where but you can cross-under after any Ex CU thats hits in the air (i.e f.hk, Ex CU) It's Character specific and corner only.

    - NR

    So if a EX CU lands on an in air opponent that is cornered does that mean they can be juggled?
  • NorvilleRogersNorvilleRogers Joined: Posts: 2
    So if a EX CU lands on an in air opponent that is cornered does that mean they can be juggled?

    Nope, you can't juggle after Ex CU.

    Side Note: I was playing a friend today and i caught him in the corner with a lvl 3 Focus. I followed with my typical corner combo -
    - Ex Rocks, cl.hp, c.lp, c.mp xx HK.RK(meaty)...I normally do the second HK.RK but I did the F.mp reset instead. I dashed after for the cross- under and hit him with cl.hp, c.mp xx HP CU. The cross-under caught him off guard.

    Some one please try it and tell me how it works out!!

    -NR

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