Devil May Cry!

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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    Well once again let me emphasize:


    Its hard to have a SEQUEL when Capcom keeps acting as if Devil May Cry 2 never happened. The last 3 fucking titles have been before 1 or in between 1 and (that game that doesnt exist.)


    You'd think someone on their team would commit hari kiri if the plot actually went in order. This is going to create so many storyline plotholes. I dont want to see a teenage Virgil, and there cant be a Trish since Dante met her in 1. NO Lady because she was in 3, no Lucia because she was in 2 and no Kyrie because she was in 4.

    So that means we will be introduced to even more new enemies and personalities who have never been explained in DMC 1 through 4. Since DMC 5 is clearly before 3 which is technically the first DMC.
  • BullDancerBullDancer Mentos, The Freshmaker Joined: Posts: 9,465
    Dunno why everyone is talking so much shit on this game.

    We all know every nigga in this thread is going to buy a copy when it comes out anyways

    I won't this shit looks terrible so far but if the gameplay is good I'll bite when the price decreases, show me some REAL gameplay and prove to me that it is still DMC in nature....... even though I'll skip over every cut scene.......
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  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    Dunno why everyone is talking so much shit on this game.

    We all know every nigga in this thread is going to buy a copy when it comes out anyways

    Unless the gameplay is doing something over the top that ignores the already bad direction of the design, I doubt it.
    So that means we will be introduced to even more new enemies and personalities who have never been explained in DMC 1 through 4. Since DMC 5 is clearly before 3 which is technically the first DMC.

    This game has nothing to do with DMC1-4. It's a complete reboot.
    I don't got those.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    Dunno why everyone is talking so much shit on this game.

    We all know every nigga in this thread is going to rent a copy when it comes out anyways

    There we go.

    Rightfully so, then when it really does suck. Then we can vent out alot of steam and trash the living daylights out of it.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    If Mikami's team want to pretend that DMC2 never existed, so what's to prevent to recon the entire title in general in DMC5? Not like it's been done before where it's didn't make Ys: The Oath in Felghana any worse but more awesome.
  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    1. To begin with, no, but it has evolved considerably imo. I mean, what other hack 'n slash games have combos like this.

    2. Not including Bayonetta what do you mean by this? Are you talking in terms of it's combat system or as an overall game?

    1. Bayonetta

    Thats besides the point, the engine was never "complicated" so there is no sense of "dumbing down" engine wise that should even be considered.

    2. Well isnt this game also being created with the same team who made those games? The consistency of the series is probably more important at this point.
  • shatterstarshatterstar still unauthorized Joined: Posts: 8,553
    I dont want to see a teenage Virgil, and there cant be a Trish since Dante met her in 1. NO Lady because she was in 3, no Lucia because she was in 2 and no Kyrie because she was in 4.

    So that means we will be introduced to even more new enemies and personalities who have never been explained in DMC 1 through 4. Since DMC 5 is clearly before 3 which is technically the first DMC.

    wat?

    Lady and Trish are in 4.

    and Trish was in 2 (sorta).

    it's 3,1,4,2.

    5 looks like it's basically a remake of 3.

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  • m121akumam121akuma Power to Tearer Joined: Posts: 1,993

    2. Well isnt this game also being created with the same team who made those games? The consistency of the series is probably more important at this point.

    Bayonetta's team is not involved. The thread title is misleading (he's referring to Bayonetta players on SRK). If Platinum games were involved, I'd rush this shit down regardless of the new direction the game went in aesthetically. Since they aren't, it just adds insult to injury.

    Edit: 4 comes after 1. Trish being in it should make this pretty damn obvious.
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  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    if Platinum was involved, Bayonetta probably would not have even been made to begin with.
    I don't got those.
  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    If Mikami's team want to pretend that DMC2 never existed, so what's to prevent to recon the entire title in general in DMC5? Not like it's been done before where it's didn't make Ys: The Oath in Felghana any worse but more awesome.

    Exactly.

    How do people expect something NOT to be dramatically different? They are smashing themselves in between a box. That box is called "DMC2 <<<<< [insert new DMC game]" and because of this, the creative process will be hindered, UNLESS..they do something like this.


    EDIT: yes 4 comes after one. It goes:

    DMC5 > DMC 3 > DMC 1 > DMC 4 > DMC 2

    I have a big problem with this being before 3. I mean, can there not be a few chapters that are a flashback? This game HAS to be after 2, its just ridiculous.
  • shatterstarshatterstar still unauthorized Joined: Posts: 8,553
    all they had to do was remake DMC2 like they did RE1.

    that's all I asked for.

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  • SylariSylari Joined: Posts: 1,445
    Thats besides the point, the engine was never "complicated" so there is no sense of "dumbing down" engine wise that should even be considered.

    Presumably by dumbing down one would mean moving away from a freeform system like DMC3/4 and Bayonetta use to a more dial-a-combo/cinematic combo system like you see in God of War or heavenly and to a lesser extent the ninja gaiden games.
    DMC5 > DMC 3 > DMC 1 > DMC 4 > DMC 2

    No. DMC 5 is currently being billed as a reboot, which would exist outside that continuity entirely.
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  • SillenderSillender run stop short Joined: Posts: 290
    what do you mean by team bayonetta on deck?

    im outi

    Roberth

    seriously wtf, this has nothing to do with platinum games
  • GomuGomuGomuGomu Strider Sucks Joined: Posts: 9,575
    1. Bayonetta

    Thats besides the point, the engine was never "complicated" so there is no sense of "dumbing down" engine wise that should even be considered.

    2. Well isnt this game also being created with the same team who made those games? The consistency of the series is probably more important at this point.

    1. Well I wasn't even counting that game since Kamiya was on board but well played lol.

    2. Nope, it's being made by Ninja Theory, the team who did Heavenly Sword. If Platinum Games was involved I would be hyped as fuck but be unsure with this new direction. Since NT is involved I can only think that the gameplay might take a hit since the combat in Heavenly Sword was shit.
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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    I mean what the fuck is so scary about remaking a shitty game, people would be ALL OVER it. Its like some kind of "honor" thing capcom is trying to preserve by acting like there was no DMC2.

    DMC 2 remixed could be fucking awesome. The whole skyscraper section with the birds leading all the was up to the boss right on the rooftop was amazing. The blood goats, the sorcery, the modern technology mixed with the old eastern european architecture. It was all badass. The game just needed a few tweaks. And a new endboss.

    No. DMC 5 is currently being billed as a reboot, which would exist outside that continuity entirely.

    Where do they claim that "reboot" means not-canon?

    My understanding was that the reboot was just a complete overhaul of the series. And going by a young, scrawny, black haired Dante its before he becomes what he is in 3, even if it isnt cannon.


    On a final note: Heavenly Sword and the "dumbed down" fight system still shitted on DMC 4 as a whole. Especially the voice acting and storyline.
  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    DOUBLE EDIT:

    i seem to be responding too quickly. lol
  • Shin OniShin Oni Mr. Gimmicks Joined: Posts: 6,269
    No. DMC 5 is currently being billed as a reboot, which would exist outside that continuity entirely.

    At least someone understood what Reboot meant.
    I don't got those.
  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 15,035 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    I have a big problem with this being before 3. I mean, can there not be a few chapters that are a flashback? This game HAS to be after 2, its just ridiculous.

    Not sure why you're thinking this is a prequel to 3 when no information has been released. A reboot seems more likely since Capcom has talked about it before, IIRC, or implied it when they said they wanted DMC to appeal to Western audiences (even though it did already lol...).

    If Capcom retconned DMC2, I doubt anyone would care.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    I mean what the fuck is so scary about remaking a shitty game, people would be ALL OVER it. Its like some kind of "honor" thing capcom is trying to preserve by acting like there was no DMC2.

    DMC 2 remixed could be fucking awesome. The whole skyscraper section with the birds leading all the was up to the boss right on the rooftop was amazing. The blood goats, the sorcery, the modern technology mixed with the old eastern european architecture. It was all badass. The game just needed a few tweaks. And a new endboss.

    Not to mention no stotic Dante. Maybe bring back the zany Dante from DMC4 into the mix.
  • ChunstoppableChunstoppable I don't quit! Joined: Posts: 1,008
    Okay, here's a random thought... What if this is actually Dante's son? But then again, it probably won't be since they're saying it's a reboot! FML

    And um, I just want a good combat system because I was bored out of my mind while playing Heavenly Sword. :sad:
  • ezekial45ezekial45 I'm not Amish! Joined: Posts: 1,066
    Hideaki Itsuno (Director of DMC2/3/4 and SF2) is the supervising director on this game. He's making sure the combat is on par with previous games.
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  • highluluhighlulu Joined: Posts: 3,841
    ... did they have to make the new dante look like such a ******?
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  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    Why is it when that's said that I'm still not confident about the combat for this reboot? Gonna take alot more convictions and gameplay footage to say otherwise.
  • GomuGomuGomuGomu Strider Sucks Joined: Posts: 9,575
    Hideaki Itsuno (Director of DMC2/3/4 and SF2) is the supervising director on this game. He's making sure the combat is on par with previous games.

    He better, otherwise heads will roll.
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  • DwinDwin The Lily Warrior Joined: Posts: 597
    I'll wait to see some gameplay before I make any judgements on this game.
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  • SylariSylari Joined: Posts: 1,445
    No... Heavenly sword just sucked.

    And isn't that what a "reboot" means? If it was just a prequel wouldn't they just call it that? Reboots tend to try to restart the series. The fact that the character who's apparently named Dante doesn't look like Devil May Cry's Dante seems to support that a bit.
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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    Not sure why you're thinking this is a prequel to 3 when no information has been released. A reboot seems more likely since Capcom has talked about it before, IIRC, or implied it when they said they wanted DMC to appeal to Western audiences (even though it did already lol...).

    If Capcom retconned DMC2, I doubt anyone would care.
    Is reboot the buzzword of this thread?

    Capcom didnt specify that this game doesnt fall into the arc of the last 4 games.

    I think people are interpreting this word "reboot" as being unrelated to the last 4 games, but I dont recall that being stated. And making a game and calling it DMC but it had nothing to do with the story...

    they were better off calling it something different but being in the same universe like Blazblue and GG.
  • Alternate275Alternate275 ★TOURNEY HOST★ Joined: Posts: 1,036
    Honestly, I'm also hype for this. I haven't ANY idea why though, behalf of everything said in this thread
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  • shatterstarshatterstar still unauthorized Joined: Posts: 8,553
    If Capcom retconned DMC2, I doubt anyone would care.
    so rebooting the series is a better idea?

    hey! let's reboot Fire Emblem and make it geared to five year old's a la Digimon!

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  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    This thread is full of so much fail. I swear I thought I was on /v/ for a second.

    This game looks fucking awesome based on this trailer. The DMC games up until now have become a yawn fest of been there, done that both gameplay and design wise, (to me).

    I embrace "DmC" with open arms. That trailer was fantastic, saying otherwise really makes me questions your ability to see. This "Dante" reminds me of Johnny Quid (Toby Kebbell's character in RocknRolla). Interesting. I can really do without another gray haired, bishonen inspired look. Seriously.

    I'm not going to sit here, and argue NT's merits as a developer, because again, Heavenly Sword was pretty good, albeit really short. The quality of the game was definitely on the right side, up.

    SRK, I'm disappointed. You are better than this.
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  • VarleranVarleran Zako Joined: Posts: 645
    yah yaahh bitch you need to look up the usage of the word reboot in the past 10 years. Every "reboot" of every franchise in games, movies, tv, etc. has had nothing to do with previous continuity.
  • NegaduckNegaduck Is so S-Rank Joined: Posts: 5,189
    Devil May Cry Reboot. Team Bayonetta on deck
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  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Also, lol at the people complaining about the developer. Capcom, like most of you should know, that The WEST currently reigns supreme on game development. Japan has fallen waaaay off, and besides a few, can't keep up with it's western counterparts on games anyway. Visually, Gameplay.... they just don't have it like that used too.

    So yea, relax boobs.
  • SylariSylari Joined: Posts: 1,445
    Never heard someone call dmc3 a yawn fest before....
    Also, lol at the people complaining about the developer. Capcom, like most of you should know, that The WEST currently reigns supreme on game development. Japan has fallen waaaay off, and besides a few, can't keep up with it's western counterparts on games anyway. Visually, Gameplay.... they just don't have it like that used too.

    I really don't get this Japan vs the West mentality. What does that have to do with anything in this thread? And what do we gain from making such absurdly sweeping generalizations?
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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    yah yaahh bitch you need to look up the usage of the word reboot in the past 10 years. Every "reboot" of every franchise in games, movies, tv, etc. has had nothing to do with previous continuity.

    So in other words the usage of the word doesnt necessarily have to be the true definition.

    Because if you use the word "overhaul" its just as interpretive as the word "reboot."


    You see where Im going with this?
  • ShinkuuRShinkuuR Still Pissed Joined: Posts: 1,070
    I don't understand about this "western audience" thing. DMC3 was made with a eastern feel, and people love it. Bayonetta was clearly made with the east in mind IMO, and it's the shit.

    If you want to cater to a certain audience and a certain feel, fuck all the reboot shit and JUST MAKE THE DAMN GAME GOOD. It's a really simple concept but have a feeling that Ninja Theory is going to miss the boat.
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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,083
    What does that mean? What do you mean DMC3 was made with an "eastern feel" that sounds like a bunch of doublespeak.

    What are the actual factors in this? The only real validity in what you just said that I see is difficulty is usually harder in the "eastern feel" games.
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,873
    Why is it when that's said that I'm still not confident about the combat for this reboot? Gonna take alot more convictions and gameplay footage to say otherwise.

    because youre being silly. what kind of gameplay footage are you looking for anyways? its not like dmc4's footage was like some advanced combo shit. showed you some basic things, and that the combo system was still in place, and thats pretty much it. thats what you will inevitably see from this game, and most likely you will get a demo in a few months to play anyways. probably around christmas.

    dmc is not a hard game to copy and paste gameplay wise. lets be serious here. although i shit on dmc4, it still had pretty much what you still liked about dmc combo fun wise. dmc3 was just funner and deeper in that case though. i dont think you have to put but so much faith into them copying and pasting dmc gameplay, considering i cant imagine its that hard to do at this point. im looking for dmc3 like options gameplay wise, and lots of replay value to the point i can happily chill on dmc reboot for a few years no problem.

    its funny that the emo kid in the new dmc is acting more manly then alot of the thread whiners. ;p game will be good. relax. im glad we're getting real fiends again, and not walking kung lao hats from dmc4. i hope they have more crazy demons to come. cmon son, you just gonna tease us. i better get gameplay footage and mad interviews by the end of tgs.
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    Never heard someone call dmc3 a yawn fest before....



    I really don't get this Japan vs the West mentality. What does that have to do with anything in this thread? And what do we gain from making such absurdly sweeping generalizations?

    I don't think you understood what I said, at all. Capcom's decision to go with a western developer has been foreshadowed by an overwhelming belief that Japan has fallen behind in game development. This is a well versed opinion stated by EVERYONE, including several high profile, well praised Japanese developers themselves, for several years now.

    Capcom probably went with them, simply because they feel they can take the growing stale franchise in a new direction, and breath some life into it. "How dare Capcom try and keep a series fresh! I want more of the same shit, with better graphics, and design elements from the PSX era!"