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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,086
    I don't think you understood what I said, at all. Capcom's decision to go with a western developer has been foreshadowed by an overwhelming believe that Japan has fallen behind in game development. This is a well versed opinion stated by EVERYONE, including several high profile, well praised Japanese developers themselves, for several years now.

    Capcom probably went with them, simply because they feel they can take the growing stale franchise in a new direction, and breath some life into it. "How dare Capcom try and keep a series fresh! I want more of the same shit, with better graphics, and design elements from the PSX era!"

    If you notice theres no winning either way.

    You stay the same and they bitch about needing something fresh.

    You turn the series on its head and "IT WUZNT BROKED..WHYD YOU FIX IT??!!"
  • jedpossumjedpossum Ok, Darling Joined: Posts: 4,227
    If you notice theres no winning either way.

    You stay the same and they bitch about needing something fresh.

    You turn the series on its head and "IT WUZNT BROKED..WHYD YOU FIX IT??!!"

    Welcome to catering to the fans

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  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,874
    yall niggaz crazy mayne. the more and more i watch the trailer, the more and more i like it. for some reason it went over my head, but i like that the fiends have like a modern thing going on to them, and not just big tooth monsters, even though i will still take big tooth monsters. dante with a scythe for dmcr? :)

    i hope we get shit loads of content to unlock, unlike that horrific dmc4.
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    This thread is full of so much fail. I swear I thought I was on /v/ for a second.

    This game looks fucking awesome based on this trailer. The DMC games up until now have become a yawn fest of been there, done that both gameplay and design wise, (to me).

    I embrace "DmC" with open arms. That trailer was fantastic, saying otherwise really makes me questions your ability to see. This "Dante" reminds me of Johnny Quid (Toby Kebbell's character in RocknRolla). Interesting. I can really do without another gray haired, bishonen inspired look. Seriously.

    I'm not going to sit here, and argue NT's merits as a developer, because again, Heavenly Sword was pretty good, albeit really short. The quality of the game was definitely on the right side, up.

    SRK, I'm disappointed. You are better than this.


    Keep in mind 99% of everyone in this thread hated on Bayonetta and now worship it:rofl:

    That whipsword is badass did he have it in any other game?
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Is reboot the buzzword of this thread?

    Capcom didnt specify that this game doesnt fall into the arc of the last 4 games.

    I think people are interpreting this word "reboot" as being unrelated to the last 4 games, but I dont recall that being stated. And making a game and calling it DMC but it had nothing to do with the story...

    they were better off calling it something different but being in the same universe like Blazblue and GG.

    Typically, a reboot usually means everything is remade: characters, story, continuity, presentation, and gameplay. Sometimes just gameplay reboots like the jump from RE3 to RE4, but typically, a reboot means what I first said. The game is being billed as a reboot, and given whats happened to this "Dante" and the general feel of the trailer, it's safe to say it's a complete reboot.
    so rebooting the series is a better idea?

    hey! let's reboot Fire Emblem and make it geared to five year old's a la Digimon!

    Nah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying if they retconned DMC2 as if it never happened and made a direct sequel to DMC4, people wouldn't care. Or if they made a direct sequel to DMC2 but changed the story of DMC2 to make it not suck (while keeping some points like Dante going straight into Hell), people wouldn't care either. No one plays DMC for the story anyways. Besides, DMC2 didn't even really have a story.
    You stay the same and they bitch about needing something fresh.

    You turn the series on its head and "IT WUZNT BROKED..WHYD YOU FIX IT??!!"

    The DMC series wasn't feeling stale. The only problem with DMC4 was that it was only half a game. Back tracking literally all the levels you played as Nero but as Dante instead was the issue, not the story, characters, or gameplay. Capcom was lazy with DMC4, which probably hurt its sales more than anything else.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    because youre being silly. what kind of gameplay footage are you looking for anyways? its not like dmc4's footage was like some advanced combo shit. showed you some basic things, and that the combo system was still in place, and thats pretty much it. thats what you will inevitably see from this game, and most likely you will get a demo in a few months to play anyways. probably around christmas.

    its funny that the emo kid in the new dmc is acting more manly then alot of the thread whiners. ;p game will be good. relax. im glad we're getting real fiends again, and not walking kung lao hats from dmc4. i hope they have more crazy demons to come. cmon son, you just gonna tease us. i better get gameplay footage and mad interviews by the end of tgs.

    I'm not being silly about it for it's a matter of who's behind the wheel. Specially after Heavenly Sword for which I was not impressed with it's being short and I wasn't feeling any vibes when I got to the meat of the action like with God of War. Frankly I don't give two damns about in-development interviews due that anything can be said, but in the end up being different in general. Hard lesson after going though development sessions from Peter Molyneux.

    Plus calling D.I.N.O. manly is pretty much a joke due to he looks more like a douchebag instead. Until otherwise, I'll keep it under pretense that it's going to phail.
  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    If you notice theres no winning either way.

    You stay the same and they bitch about needing something fresh.

    You turn the series on its head and "IT WUZNT BROKED..WHYD YOU FIX IT??!!"

    LOL, indeed. What's worse is all we have seen is ONE small trailer, which looked great. Nice visuals, and creature designs, and a very unique take on Inuyasha, I mean, Sephiroth, I mean, K' Dash, I mean Riku, I mean whatever. That grey haired ****** with no real personality.
    Welcome to catering to the fans

    Sad state of affairs, that is. I thought SRK had a better cesspool of game fans. Turns out it's just like every other cesspool. lol
    yall niggaz crazy mayne. the more and more i watch the trailer, the more and more i like it. for some reason it went over my head, but i like that the fiends have like a modern thing going on to them, and not just big tooth monsters, even though i will still take big tooth monsters. dante with a scythe for dmcr? :)

    i hope we get shit loads of content to unlock, unlike that horrific dmc4.

    Agreed. I watched the trailer 4 times in the past half hour. Loving it.
    Keep in mind 99% of everyone in this thread hated on Bayonetta and now worship it:rofl:

    That whipsword is badass did he have it in any other game?

    Whipsword ftw.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    Keep in mind 99% of everyone in this thread hated on Bayonetta and now worship it:rofl:

    That whipsword is badass did he have it in any other game?

    I must be more of a 1%er than I thought :lol:

    I hardly knew of it when it first came out. I just got it for the "hell of it" and "It's from the same guys that did DMC, so it's gonna be zany and awesome."

    EDIT: Now that I've noticed after rewatching the trailer, D.I.N.O. looks like more of a junkie than an emo kid. No wonder he's in the loony bin, too much PCP and Saw.
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,874
    it wont fail. its touching a larger audience with its new swag, and if gameplay is right, at least 70 percent of the haters will jump on board. it would literally have to be a disc of hardened crap to not sell.
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  • yah yaahh b*tch!yah yaahh b*tch! thats my b*tch Joined: Posts: 6,086
    You werent impressed wit Heavenly Sword. lol.

    Ok.


    We might as well just end it right here. On this sour note. Because Heavenly Sword completely OBLITERATED Devil May Cry 4 in every aspect outside of replay value and flexibility of the movelist. They were both short, but at least Heavenly Sword had cutscenes worth watching. And it didnt need any epic 80 foot boss battles or enemies with 12 lifebars.

    I feel like DMC was so campy at first that by DMC3 they turned it up a notch just to make it seem intentional.


    Which brings me to another point, you can SAY DMC isnt about the story, but the developers have always put so much emphasis on it, even if we mash start through the cutscenes I dont expect DMC5 to be any different. The story is going to still set the tone for the gameplay whether we like it or not.
  • Hatred EdgeHatred Edge One Bad Day Joined: Posts: 16,506
    it wont fail. its touching a larger audience with its new swag, and if gameplay is right, at least 70 percent of the haters will jump on board. it would literally have to be a disc of hardened crap to not sell.
    I don't like this Dante but yeah if the gameplay is good enough I would enjoy it. I really wanted a DMC continuing from the current DMC we have and improvements upon the mechanics/gameplay of the previous versions. Not a reboot. You could change things to make it more appealing without a reboot.

    And this Dante looks pretty damn emo.
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  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Remember all the boycotts against SF4 before it was released................yeah.
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  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG

    And this Dante looks pretty damn emo.

    I don't see how this interpretation of Dante is any more emo than the grey haired, sometimes shitless design we have got until this point. Seriously. Explain the difference to me. Also, "emo" is used as some kind of weird blanket statement now. This guy doesnt look emo. Just needs a sandwich, like alot of protagonist nowadays.
  • noontidenoontide Joined: Posts: 1,132
    http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1631/1238709097803.gif

    This is what Dante is supposed to be like. rip dmc
  • Jubei KibagamiJubei Kibagami Too much naughty... Joined: Posts: 1,300
    On Capcom-Unity, one of the mods (Snow) has been hinting at Dante's hair having a bit of white has plot significance. Maybe this is connected and maybe its a full blown reboot. Either way I am disgusted at what they made of Dante.
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    You werent impressed wit Heavenly Sword. lol.

    Ok.


    We might as well just end it right here. On this sour note. Because Heavenly Sword completely OBLITERATED Devil May Cry 4 in every aspect outside of replay value and flexibility of the movelist. They were both short, but at least Heavenly Sword had cutscenes worth watching. And it didnt need any epic 80 foot boss battles or enemies with 12 lifebars.

    I feel like DMC was so campy at first that by DMC3 they turned it up a notch just to make it seem intentional.


    Which brings me to another point, you can SAY DMC isnt about the story, but the developers have always put so much emphasis on it, even if we mash start through the cutscenes I dont expect DMC5 to be any different. The story is going to still set the tone for the gameplay whether we like it or not.

    Why care for story when it's basically "kill everything including this said boss/demon lord/god/etc" with a twist "you're half demon/your sword is going to suck your soul dry/you killed your best friend"? After seeing the cutscenes once or twice and if it feels the same, odds are it's going to be skipped alot.

    I don't think you understand the concept of "retcon". It means you change pretty much aspects of the story to anything for better or for worse. Just thinking about it can put in just how much can be done with it to make it better, what to insert, what to remove, what can be improved, what can't be revamped, it's just alot of thing they can do with DMC5 in general that wouldn't need a reboot. It was an unnecessary move when Capcom decided to reboot Resident Evil for which was gonna need it sooner or later with the progress it was going with.
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,874
    yeah, he just need some pizza. nigga been tortured for 13 days. i would assume they didnt feed him, because they boss like that. lol!
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  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,874
    PLEEEEASE be a full reboot.
    LEMME GET DAT!
  • Geese PantsGeese Pants Certified Geese.... Joined: Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    If it's a definite reboot.................please leave Trish and Virgil out of it.
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  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    This guy doesnt look emo. Just needs a sandwich, like alot of protagonist nowadays.

    More like a shitload of rehab, weight training, and group therapy. Guess the second look at the trailer helped to see that D.I.N.O. was more of a psychotic junkie with the way his arms looks way too thin and the constant smoking.
  • Soul BushidoSoul Bushido Anubis Ra Joined: Posts: 373
    Observation: This thread contains a group of people I never thought I'd see, or for that matter even thought existed: Heavenly Sword dickriders. That game was NO good and before you even realized how ass it was, it was over.

    That said, I've decided the only thing I really don't like about this, as I said before but no say more succinct is that Dante's new DESIGN looks shitty as fuck. Everything else looks great. Especially how he still wall runs. Change this bullshit design and I'll take a closer look at a purchase.

    As long as this new "Dante" is a homo hipster tweakin on acid, I'll pass.
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  • orochizoolanderorochizoolander 2LANDER! Joined: Posts: 15,636
    P. gorath said: seriously though, it really crystalized how much better mvc3 is than that game. "Oh look, commando vs. 3 characters...this will be excitin--zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzz"
  • RubedoRubedo #RalenzoHasNoSoul Joined: Posts: 128
    Not to mention there's Ninja Gaiden 3 to look forward or to bitch about. Nobody made a topic about that yet.
  • jimmy1200jimmy1200 Joined: Posts: 8,874
    As long as this new "Dante" is a homo hipster tweakin on acid, I'll pass.

    bye, because its not changing. go play dmc4 some more :)
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  • highluluhighlulu Joined: Posts: 3,849
    Not to mention there's Ninja Gaiden 3 to look forward or to bitch about. Nobody made a topic about that yet.

    probably because everyone knows that without the true team ninja on board NG3 is going to suck even worse than NG2 sucked after they rushed the shit out of it. (totally blanking on the head of team ninja's name). anyways it's hard for me to think of NG3 as a real addition to the series without him on board. his direction is what made NG1 and what made it through to NG2 was the games saving grace, the game fell apart when the big dogs rush him.
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  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Which brings me to another point, you can SAY DMC isnt about the story, but the developers have always put so much emphasis on it, even if we mash start through the cutscenes I dont expect DMC5 to be any different. The story is going to still set the tone for the gameplay whether we like it or not.

    First two DMC games didn't have any kind of real story. It was just "bad things happening, stop them". There was no character development at all, and all of the writing and dialogue were campy (except in DMC2, where they honest to god tried to make a real story but nothing happened). Only DMC3 and DMC4 had a story. And yes, while we do play DMC for the gameplay, no one wants to really play as a character they hate. If the character isn't likeable, the game isn't as fun to play. The thing is with DMC and Dante is that he's just a bad ass, campy kind of character which, I would say, the DMC fans have come to love since the first game. If you remove the "Dante element" from the DMC games, they're not as fun (see DMC2).
    I don't see how this interpretation of Dante is any more emo than the grey haired, sometimes shitless design we have got until this point. Seriously. Explain the difference to me. Also, "emo" is used as some kind of weird blanket statement now. This guy doesnt look emo. Just needs a sandwich, like alot of protagonist nowadays.

    emo - Google Search

    DMC5 "Dante" looks pretty fucking emo to me. Makes me wonder when you last saw an emo/scenester kid.
  • shatterstarshatterstar still unauthorized Joined: Posts: 8,553
    Nah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying if they retconned DMC2 as if it never happened and made a direct sequel to DMC4, people wouldn't care. Or if they made a direct sequel to DMC2 but changed the story of DMC2 to make it not suck (while keeping some points like Dante going straight into Hell), people wouldn't care either. No one plays DMC for the story anyways. Besides, DMC2 didn't even really have a story.

    No one said they cared about the story. they cared about ho easy and short that game was and that it was a true sequel to DMC1. the story, overall, is fine. The game as a whole needs to be redone. I don't know exactly why Capcom remade RE1 but that game worked. All they did was gave the game better, up to date graphics, and a few plot changes to keep the game "fresh" AND IT WORKED.

    this is not going to work at all. who in the hell would want to play "prequel of a prequel" to a game that has visually nothing to do with the original since it's a "reboot"? If this was to be an actual prequel to DMC3 it should be about 100% to do with Sparda, what he did, who he fucked, and who he fucked up in hell years before Dante and Virgil. Not this crap. I would pay good money for a Remake of DMC2 and I'd most definitely pay good money a "100% all about Sparda" game.

    you can keep this Emo May Crap. do no want.

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  • Mr. XMr. X Non Stop ∞ Climax Joined: Posts: 20,239
    Trying to reserve judgement. Trying really hard. Don't like the new look of Dante, didn't like the torture scene thing making it look like he was experimented on. Doesn't look like he'll be showboating, joking, and dealing corny one liners.
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  • Spirit JuiceSpirit Juice 「HATES EVERYTHING」 Joined: Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    No one said they cared about the story. they cared about ho easy and short that game was and that it was a true sequel to DMC1. the story, overall, is fine. The game as a whole needs to be redone. I don't know exactly why Capcom remade RE1 but that game worked. All they did was gave the game better, up to date graphics, and a few plot changes to keep the game "fresh" AND IT WORKED.

    this is not going to work at all. who in the hell would want to play "prequel of a prequel" to a game that has visually nothing to do with the original since it's a "reboot"? If this was to be an actual prequel to DMC3 it should be about 100% to do with Sparda, what he did, who he fucked, and who he fucked up in hell years before Dante and Virgil. Not this crap. I would pay good money for a Remake of DMC2 and I'd most definitely pay good money a "100% all about Sparda" game.

    you can keep this Emo May Crap. do no want.

    I agree with you there, although I'm not sure if you're just making a blanket statement or are implying that I'm for this DMC5 reboot. I am, however, not sure if DCM2 needs a remake. I mean it wouldn't hurt I guess, but I'm just not sure if it would make for a good investment. I think it's just better to move on.
  • Soul BushidoSoul Bushido Anubis Ra Joined: Posts: 373
    bye, because its not changing. go play dmc4 some more :)

    How do you know? You've done nothing but jump to conclusions this whole thread. Let's forget for a second that they JUST changed Cole back to his original design, and I'm sure the outcry wasn't nearly as bad as it will be on this. The original DMC4 Dante concept CG (in the first trailer) looked like Michael Jackson with white hair. It's very possible if NT gets enough hate for this design it may and SHOULD change.
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  • Vy LowVy Low ...pure fuckery Joined: Posts: 202
    Ultimately it's the look most people aren't pleased with.

    A minor re-design would lessen the bitching.

    A jacket that fits, a bit more weight and a non-shitty hairstyle (not bothered about his hair being white personally)
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  • ChunstoppableChunstoppable I don't quit! Joined: Posts: 1,008
    Do you guys think that new-Dante would get less hate if he wasn't named...Dante?
  • Kusanagi02Kusanagi02 Joined: Posts: 5,460
    This is just a theory but has everyone ever stopped for a moment and thought that maybe this guy in the trailer just THINKS he's Dante? I mean it would make sense considering he's being tortured and maybe after the torture he might have ingrained in his head that he's Dante, son of Spard. Or maybe Virgil somehow possessed this guy and is using him to get his own body back.
    Just throwing theories out there because i don't believe for a second that Capcom would throw that trailer out there and say, "Hey guys, this is Dante". Doesn't make sense.
  • SaranghaSarangha Look within yourself Joined: Posts: 4,256
    That is NOT Dante....terrible just terrible. Ninja Theory makes crappy battle systems, heavenly sword was clunky as hell. We are doomed, thank God this is a remake and not sequel.

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    That would be interesting but I highly doubt that. Capcom is flexing its ability to get western companies to do their work for them. For example, Dead Rising 2. Except DR2 looks good.
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  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    This thread is full of Fashion Designers.

    http://fashionrules.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bruno_narrowweb__300x3710.jpg

    This is how you guys look to me, in my head.
  • Soul BushidoSoul Bushido Anubis Ra Joined: Posts: 373
    Do you guys think that new-Dante would get less hate if he wasn't named...Dante?

    In a word: no.

    Dante is an iconic design that is tied to his series really. They way the originally made Dante was perfect for the story as well as the gameplay. His design is intrinsically tied into the fabric of Devil May Cry. What if we looked up one day and Capcom had decided to make Ryu a spikey haired hipster with baggy chain covered black cargos and eye liner? Wouldn't much like that would you? Why? Because it's not Ryu. That design would literally cause Ryu to lose his original identity and I think that is the problem here
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  • Jack_FrostJack_Frost M.C Joined: Posts: 6,986
    This is just a theory but has everyone ever stopped for a moment and thought that maybe this guy in the trailer just THINKS he's Dante? I mean it would make sense considering he's being tortured and maybe after the torture he might have ingrained in his head that he's Dante, son of Spard. Or maybe Virgil somehow possessed this guy and is using him to get his own body back.
    Just throwing theories out there because i don't believe for a second that Capcom would throw that trailer out there and say, "Hey guys, this is Dante". Doesn't make sense.

    Hope this is true, like I said earlier, we need some M. Night Shaymalan (sp) right about now
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  • SixMachineSixMachine Joined: Posts: 2,346
    I don't think calling the old Dante emo is even the using the definition of emo correctly. The emo style is mostly really slim. Like WACO nuthugger jeans and and a t-shirt that is really tight. The only real thing emo about old Dante was that his bangs often covered one eye sometimes. Emo kids probably would never go shirtless because they look like a skeleton straight out of Castlevania. And technically emo doesn't need to be all depressed but Dante's cocky personality would probably be the last thing one would stereotype as emo (Barring the whole, "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT" scene).

    It's funny that I actually learned all this because I misused the word emo in front of an emo kid once. I got learned :rofl:.

    edit: And I would say the retcon Dante fits emo because of his slim fit jeans and how his whole getup is thrown together. But I'm not emo so I'm no expert :sweat:.

    edit again: Maybe they aren't slim-fit but then again he looks so damn skinny in some shots.
  • ShadeShade FEMLE Joined: Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭✭✭ OG
    Anyway, I'm done lol at the crazyness of the "fandom". Things to note of importance;

    There's a tuff of white/gray hair on the top of Dante's head. Also, he's wearing Nero's coat. Also, it appears as if he DOES have Rebellion, or at least a blade similar to it, and it changed at least twice from the scythe/axe/spear weapon, to the "whip" like weapon mid swing/combo. And thats definitely Ebony & Ivory.
  • MrStabbyMrStabby YOU SCARED? Joined: Posts: 301
    Personally, I thought it looked awkward as fuck when this Rihanna looking pseudo-vampire starts twirling around capping Marionettes(?) It just didn't seem right, or fitting. I don't know how to articulate myself on the subject further, so all I'm going to say is that I'm very disappointed with this reboot; it's highly doubtful I'll be getting it.
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