Lyghts Out Accusations...

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  • gregspell755gregspell755 Joined: Posts: 183
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  • Lights 0utLights 0ut Ill Joined: Posts: 195
    Bros pay no attention to that fairy from the UK EltonloveShlong or whatever his name is. He spreads lies, cries and has ridiculously bad grammar LOL! He also feels the need to preach on and on about..well...nothing in elaborate unnecessary ways to make up for his baby dick =)

    Batt, you called? I was in the shower.
    Man Up.
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    Bros pay no attention to that fairy from the UK EltonloveShlong or whatever his name is. He spreads lies, cries and has ridiculously bad grammar LOL! He also feels the need to preach on and on about..well...nothing in elaborate unnecessary ways to make up for his baby dick =)

    Batt, you called? I was in the shower.


    lights Out, pro mixed martial artist and turbo user extraordinaire and now the authority on the english language!!

    Seriously man, do you realise how dumb it is to correct people's spelling and grammar on a forum. Language simply needs to be understood when used informally such as on forums or when composing a text message.

    I notice you do this frequently in a vain bid to demean others and divert attention from your own failings and the issues at hand. Very weak and far from appearing intelligent you come across like a precocious child eager to demonstrate new found concepts to people who know better anyway.

    I'm a university graduate and a professional in my field so i think it's safe to say that my credentials are better than yours. What's most surprising is you've always been a dumbass as long as i've known you.

    Anyway, I digress. Back to the matter at hand, allow me to refresh your memory Lights.



    Explain the inputs big boy, explain the inputs :)

    No more sidestepping and burying your head in the sand. Just explain the inputs and this "mess" goes away.

    My job is done here, it's all on you now lights.

    Oh and keep the insults coming, not only do they amuse me but all the while you avoid the key issues they are as the futile strikes of a cobra surrounded by fire.
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  • Ev1LEv1L Joined: Posts: 292
    Lol things got offly quiet in here real quick.
    Veni, vidi, vici
  • HerroHerroHerroHerro Joined: Posts: 13
    I've played Lyghts in HDR. Honestly, if a guy is beastly when it comes to zoning, clutch execution, psychic dps, etc AND involved in the competitive scene, then odds are that he doesn't use turbo.

    As for the sf4 vid, I'm guessing he assigned a button to throw and was mashing it with double taps.
  • KayrohKayroh Joined: Posts: 881
    I've played Lyghts in HDR. Honestly, if a guy is beastly when it comes to zoning, clutch execution, psychic dps, etc AND involved in the competitive scene, then odds are that he doesn't use turbo.

    As for the sf4 vid, I'm guessing he assigned a button to throw and was mashing it with double taps.

    Why do you have to justify for him? He can defend himself.
    "Fuck the Earth, Wind and Fire, Bitch. Fuck The Elements... And Captain Planet"
  • Sweet PoisonSweet Poison Knowledge is power. Joined: Posts: 981
    I've played Lyghts in HDR. Honestly, if a guy is beastly when it comes to zoning, clutch execution, psychic dps, etc AND involved in the competitive scene, then odds are that he doesn't use turbo.

    As for the sf4 vid, I'm guessing he assigned a button to throw and was mashing it with double taps.

    This is so true man. I know many people who map thier buttons this way because pressing two buttons on a controller can be a little tough.

    Anyhow as I have stated before lights does not need turbo in hdr. You will not lose by getting thrown playing against Sagat. If you do you need to learn how to play more as Sagat should be killing you by zoning you out and chipping you to death with tiger shots.

    And he doesnt need it in SSFIV either. Also you guys do know he plays local tournaments as well as the larger tournaments such as evo, ranbats etc. He did pretty well and guess what...he wasnt using nor did he need turbo.

    Guys seriously just keep playing and improving your game. He cant grab you if you dont let him in close. lol

    Get em lyghts.
    My hunger's never satisfied. Knowledge is what fuels me.
  • Lights 0utLights 0ut Ill Joined: Posts: 195
    Poison thanks once again big homeh. Although I do appreciate it greatly I wanted to ask that you just ignore this mess. I don't want you to get bad-mouthed by the whole.....3 crybabies accusing me.

    Yeah I explained to Phlush when he asked about my inputs and he'll explain it cause he's supposed to make a thread (even though I wish he wouldn't for the above & after reasons). Even though (like I told him) I don't feel the need to explain jack sh*t especially to the likes of prodigy & smq there's a 3rd from the UK but I can't really remember his name cause he's just so irrelevant. You can find him posting paragraph after paragraph of poop (for lack of better word) that probably no one reads =)
    Man Up.
  • ProdThaGreatProdThaGreat Joined: Posts: 38
    This is so true man. I know many people who map thier buttons this way because pressing two buttons on a controller can be a little tough.

    Anyhow as I have stated before lights does not need turbo in hdr. You will not lose by getting thrown playing against Sagat. If you do you need to learn how to play more as Sagat should be killing you by zoning you out and chipping you to death with tiger shots.

    And he doesnt need it in SSFIV either. Also you guys do know he plays local tournaments as well as the larger tournaments such as evo, ranbats etc. He did pretty well and guess what...he wasnt using nor did he need turbo.

    Guys seriously just keep playing and improving your game. He cant grab you if you dont let him in close. lol

    Get em lyghts.
    Dude you are seriously not getting the point. You just dont get it what so ever. He had turbo on in sf4 vid which means he used it in hdr aswell. Stupid debate to say it wasnt turbo in that video your stupid if you think that many taps for a tech throw.You dont know sf4 so stop giving your opinion on the situation. The whole point of this thread is that lyghts out accused so many people in this thread of turbo whoring and he gets caught doing it himself. Its stupid discussing whether it helps sagat or not the point is he got caught doing somthing he vows to hate. Peace
    Im A pretty good Guile/Shoto player-xWAx Vortex
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    The bad games thread is replete with posts of people complaining about other player's turbo use without hard and fast evidence. Here we have clear visual proof but it seems that when it comes to a "top" player affiliated to an influential clan people are as quiet as nuns. And if that wasnt bad enough people are making excuses and inventing reasons as to why he isnt a cheat.

    People need to stop making excuses for Lyghts and let the man speak for himself.

    What is it that convinced Phlush, what is this mysterious button technique known only to Lyghts out.

    If Lyghts is innocent he should view this as an opportunity to make chumps of the people accusing him. Being dismissive and trying not to make it into an issue doesnt work cos it is an issue for anyone with eyes and a semblance of honesty.

    Reality is he cant cos the video is clear proof that he used turbo in that video. And if he used it there then why not remix? Certainly I have felt he has used it on me to claw back wins. Others who state that they have never detected it? well its obvious that Lyghts is going to use it intelligently. I think it would be too blatant to use it on people close to him which may be why they havent detected it.

    Lyghts is a decent player and has come on leaps and bounds from the rookie that i used to bash up for free. He has placed well in tourneys which is to be expected of someone with a modicum of ablity and who has given themselves over to the game in the way Lyghts has.

    I'm not taking anything away from him, but at the same time we must acknowledge that he is a turbo user and there can be no debate on that in the light of the visual proof!!

    Fact is for me and others like prodigy who know the real Lyghts from old, this comes as no surprise it is merely confirmation of what we already knew. Our memories go back a bit further than most cos we played HF. He comes with this safe as houses attitude but its all fake. A snake sheds its skin but it's still the same old snake and sooner or later he will bite one of you, his so called friends. He only hates me cos iv exposed him for what he is from day one.

    He accuses the Evo winner, one of his own teammates of turbo use, he used to boast how he was Caesars daddy and smashes him after kissing his backside for 2 years, the list goes on.

    Prove me wrong and stick to the facts Lyghts.
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  • Sweet PoisonSweet Poison Knowledge is power. Joined: Posts: 981
    Dude you are seriously not getting the point. You just dont get it what so ever. He had turbo on in sf4 vid which means he used it in hdr aswell. Stupid debate to say it wasnt turbo in that video your stupid if you think that many taps for a tech throw.You dont know sf4 so stop giving your opinion on the situation. The whole point of this thread is that lyghts out accused so many people in this thread of turbo whoring and he gets caught doing it himself. Its stupid discussing whether it helps sagat or not the point is he got caught doing somthing he vows to hate. Peace
    What makes you think I dont know SSFIV? Just curious. I'm pretty sure my Sim and Vega could give you a run for your money. But I guess if we dont play with or against Prodigy then I guess you are not good enough. lol

    Unless you see him with your own eyes stop with the lame excuses. Like I said dont let him in close. You play Captain Turtle Guile. Zone him out.

    On a different note do major gaming competitions allow for macroing of buttons. Can you assign your throw to one button, your focus attack to one button? Personally it seems unfair but I dont know what is allowed or not. I do know that turbo is not allowed and again Lyghts play in tourneys and has not been kicked out for cheating.

    Take your losses and learn from them man.
    My hunger's never satisfied. Knowledge is what fuels me.
  • KoopKoop SRK - D.M.V. OG™ (⌐■_■) Joined: Posts: 5,487 mod
    So what is the outcome??


    No seriously what is the outcome??


    I take it people are not going to play him anymore. I don't trip off things like that anymore so it doesnt bother me though my opinion may upset some of you about him so I will leave it be (since I am cool with a great number of you).

    I say this. I rather have proof from GGPO than here say or SF 4 replay vids. It was at one point people accused Wax of the same thing until he proved he mashes the fucc out of some things. Either way I want to know the outcome... was there some sort of online tourny goin on or something that this effected... or was it more of a pride thing?

    remember... just asking.
    Respected... simple as that.
  • ProdThaGreatProdThaGreat Joined: Posts: 38
    What makes you think I dont know SSFIV? Just curious. I'm pretty sure my Sim and Vega could give you a run for your money. But I guess if we dont play with or against Prodigy then I guess you are not good enough. lol

    Unless you see him with your own eyes stop with the lame excuses. Like I said dont let him in close. You play Captain Turtle Guile. Zone him out.

    On a different note do major gaming competitions allow for macroing of buttons. Can you assign your throw to one button, your focus attack to one button? Personally it seems unfair but I dont know what is allowed or not. I do know that turbo is not allowed and again Lyghts play in tourneys and has not been kicked out for cheating.

    Take your losses and learn from them man.
    Sweet i recall you saying you hated sf4 guess you play now ....Ok look i think murder said he had another vid of him caught using it. WAIT HOW COME I HAVE A VID OF HIM AND THOSE CRAZY INPUTS ARE GONE? Shit i hope i still have that saved either way i know the real lyghts out. As for as it goes ive played this dude for 2 years and he has a solid sagat no doubt but he uses turbo online and he claims other people do. Can you guys not see that thats bs. Also koop wax had six inputs at most, but 15 lets be real here lol. Phlush believes aswell and me and snakeeyes was talking bout that shit last night. Its not turbo i care about because on the real i beat him free when i actually play shit remix. But the fact he uses somthing he swears against is just bs.
    Im A pretty good Guile/Shoto player-xWAx Vortex
  • Ev1LEv1L Joined: Posts: 292
    Pad buttons are not as responsive as sanwa/seimitsu buttons, so to say throughout a match he could macro 1 button and get 15 inputs in less than half a second is absurd.

    What makes you think I dont know SSFIV? Just curious. I'm pretty sure my Sim and Vega could give you a run for your money. But I guess if we dont play with or against Prodigy then I guess you are not good enough. lol

    Unless you see him with your own eyes stop with the lame excuses. Like I said dont let him in close. You play Captain Turtle Guile. Zone him out.

    On a different note do major gaming competitions allow for macroing of buttons. Can you assign your throw to one button, your focus attack to one button? Personally it seems unfair but I dont know what is allowed or not. I do know that turbo is not allowed and again Lyghts play in tourneys and has not been kicked out for cheating.

    Take your losses and learn from them man.
    Veni, vidi, vici
  • mad possummad possum Joined: Posts: 1,091
    I've played Lyghts many, many times, on XBL and PSN, and I never saw anything that made me think turbo. I never had any trouble throwing him or reversing his throws. If he got some throws in on me it was because he did a good job setting them up. I think he catches so much crap because he's good and he has a knack for rubbing people the wrong way, LOL. I enjoy playing him (and this is only online) so I don't really care.

    If more people spent as much time worrying about their own games as they did everyone else's then we would all have much better competition.
    GGPO name : madpossum
  • Sweet PoisonSweet Poison Knowledge is power. Joined: Posts: 981
    Sweet i recall you saying you hated sf4 guess you play now ....Ok look i think murder said he had another vid of him caught using it. WAIT HOW COME I HAVE A VID OF HIM AND THOSE CRAZY INPUTS ARE GONE? Shit i hope i still have that saved either way i know the real lyghts out. As for as it goes ive played this dude for 2 years and he has a solid sagat no doubt but he uses turbo online and he claims other people do. Can you guys not see that thats bs. Also koop wax had six inputs at most, but 15 lets be real here lol. Phlush believes aswell and me and snakeeyes was talking bout that shit last night. Its not turbo i care about because on the real i beat him free when i actually play shit remix. But the fact he uses somthing he swears against is just bs.
    I did bro. For the love of me I couldnt get into SF4. I tried but it was a no go. Once SSFIV came out I jumped on board. I think between the game running a little faster and the buffing of both Sim and Vega I was sold. Unfortunately since SFIV was out for a year I have been playing catch up but I'm getting there. Sim definitely needed the damage buff because if he ever got behind and he can and does it was tough for him to come back. I hope the nerfs if any for AE are not too drastic. Sim still has a quite a few bad matchups so we shall see. Vega is fun. His ultra 2 is nice. Unfortunately what I see so far with playing with Vega is he is a one trick pony. There has been talk of nerfing his Ultra 2 which seems crazy as it is very reliable to get off. Take that away and he might not be viable to use. Also they need to make taking off the mask worthwhile. I mean you can do that but to this day I dont think anyone has found really any use to want to do that. Also his claw comes off too quick.

    I will be back on live hopefully this week. Prior to that I have been playing exclusively on PSN. I am a street fighter junkie as I have SSFIV on both systems. lol And the same with HDR. Well have to get some games in.

    Anyways like Possum said put more energy into playing the games guys. It's online so its not a big deal. If you truly think he is cheating then don't play him. Myself as others have stated though do not have an issue with him nor do we think he's cheating.
    My hunger's never satisfied. Knowledge is what fuels me.
  • Johnny JusticeJohnny Justice Gigaton blow Joined: Posts: 135
    Hi. I'm Vanilla Tears.
    I am a turbo user.
    Please someone help me.
    God put me on this earth to rush your sh*t down!
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    I've played Lyghts many, many times, on XBL and PSN, and I never saw anything that made me think turbo. I never had any trouble throwing him or reversing his throws. If he got some throws in on me it was because he did a good job setting them up. I think he catches so much crap because he's good and he has a knack for rubbing people the wrong way, LOL. I enjoy playing him (and this is only online) so I don't really care.

    If more people spent as much time worrying about their own games as they did everyone else's then we would all have much better competition.



    Nice Possum, wonderfully balanced post. Your place on Lyghts christmas card list is now secure. Your final comment has everything to do with my game. If people are cheating, that distorts the game in turn forcing me to play very differently. That is one reason we take such a hard line on turbo users. Whether or not you are able to deal with a turbo user is neither here nor there. Turbo is game changing and at worst game breaking. Now please explain the inputs we see on the video.

    Same to Poison, no more stories, just explain how 15 inputs in a half a second is possible on a pad.

    And to everyone else who still believes the earth is flat, before i read any more gushy posts declaring undying love for lyghts just address the video.

    Stick solely to the video. If you believe what you see on the video is possible without turbo then say so and give your reasons. That goes out to you too Lyghts. Provide your explaination. And if you cant and you almost certainly cant then simply accept that he used turbo in that video. Stop lying to yourself and others. Then consider the implications for wider turbo use on remix.

    Finally, Vanilla you are beyond help. It is clear you've been driven mad by the inumerable beatings you have sustained on remix but let me assure you, you are definately not a turbo user. You do have a very fast and overworked right hand though!!
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  • mothugsmothugs Mixing drinks Joined: Posts: 305
    lmao at this thread
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  • Lights 0utLights 0ut Ill Joined: Posts: 195
    LOL prodigy. So now you're calling Phlush a liar right? "Phlush believes whaa whaa sniffle sniffle". Just stop already, I wreck your lil Guile (who isn't even top 10 btw) then you leave and invite me. Like I've told you 1,000 times before: Grow Up son.

    Anyway like Phlush and myself has said: I've put the work in.

    Last NCR I made, what, 7th I think.

    Lost to Sirlin
    Won vs Wicked
    Won vs Mongolo
    Won vs Tyram
    Won vs Buktooth
    Won vs Honda (forgot dude's name)
    Lost vs St Playah (I choked no excuses)

    All on a regular ol PS3 controller which I borrowed from a fellow pad player who was using Honda. I forgot my damn controller at home both days LOL!

    hey Prodigy, Smq. hey guys, how many tournaments have you made the effort to attend/play/do well/etc at? LOL!

    Also prodigy pfft please snakeyes? LOL! Talking about some fool that sucked major ass got wrecked in 2 Ft10's by me then quit and accused me of turbo makes racial slurs and etc cause of my wake-up tiger uppercuts. Goes out and buys his lil turbo fightpad then suddenly evolves into a Top Player? I give an absolute f*ck what that beezy says. Let him keep running his mouth to other people about me online, all good.

    Also when I lost to Sirlin & St Playah, I shook their hand & congratulated them. I didn't catch feelings, talk mess and challenge them to money matches afterward =)





    Anyway anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to this upcoming NCR. I finally get to play these ST savs. Talking to Blue about it earlier today, he could hear how excited I was LOL!
    Man Up.
  • YouLaggyPOSYouLaggyPOS Joined: Posts: 64
    LOL prodigy. So now you're calling Phlush a liar right? "Phlush believes whaa whaa sniffle sniffle". Just stop already, I wreck your lil Guile (who isn't even top 10 btw) then you leave and invite me. Like I've told you 1,000 times before: Grow Up son.

    Anyway like Phlush and myself has said: I've put the work in.

    Last NCR I made, what, 7th I think.

    Lost to Sirlin
    Won vs Wicked
    Won vs Mongolo
    Won vs Tyram
    Won vs Buktooth
    Won vs Honda (forgot dude's name)
    Lost vs St Playah (I choked no excuses)

    All on a regular ol PS3 controller which I borrowed from a fellow pad player who was using Honda. I forgot my damn controller at home both days LOL!

    hey Prodigy, Smq. hey guys, how many tournaments have you made the effort to attend/play/do well/etc at? LOL!

    Also prodigy pfft please snakeyes? LOL! Talking about some fool that sucked major ass got wrecked in 2 Ft10's by me then quit and accused me of turbo makes racial slurs and etc cause of my wake-up tiger uppercuts. Goes out and buys his lil turbo fightpad then suddenly evolves into a Top Player? I give an absolute f*ck what that beezy says. Let him keep running his mouth to other people about me online, all good.

    Also when I lost to Sirlin & St Playah, I shook their hand & congratulated them. I didn't catch feelings, talk mess and challenge them to money matches afterward =)





    Anyway anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to this upcoming NCR. I finally get to play these ST savs. Talking to Blue about it earlier today, he could hear how excited I was LOL!




    This is funny. You get upset when people accuse you of using turbo, but you turn right around and accuse SnakeEyez of turbo?

    This is entertaining. Keep it going guys...
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    LOL prodigy. So now you're calling Phlush a liar right? "Phlush believes whaa whaa sniffle sniffle". Just stop already, I wreck your lil Guile (who isn't even top 10 btw) then you leave and invite me. Like I've told you 1,000 times before: Grow Up son.

    Anyway like Phlush and myself has said: I've put the work in.

    Last NCR I made, what, 7th I think.

    Lost to Sirlin
    Won vs Wicked
    Won vs Mongolo
    Won vs Tyram
    Won vs Buktooth
    Won vs Honda (forgot dude's name)
    Lost vs St Playah (I choked no excuses)

    All on a regular ol PS3 controller which I borrowed from a fellow pad player who was using Honda. I forgot my damn controller at home both days LOL!

    hey Prodigy, Smq. hey guys, how many tournaments have you made the effort to attend/play/do well/etc at? LOL!

    Also prodigy pfft please snakeyes? LOL! Talking about some fool that sucked major ass got wrecked in 2 Ft10's by me then quit and accused me of turbo makes racial slurs and etc cause of my wake-up tiger uppercuts. Goes out and buys his lil turbo fightpad then suddenly evolves into a Top Player? I give an absolute f*ck what that beezy says. Let him keep running his mouth to other people about me online, all good.

    Also when I lost to Sirlin & St Playah, I shook their hand & congratulated them. I didn't catch feelings, talk mess and challenge them to money matches afterward =)





    Anyway anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to this upcoming NCR. I finally get to play these ST savs. Talking to Blue about it earlier today, he could hear how excited I was LOL!


    All i've got to say is this:

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  • SpiderbaneSpiderbane Berserker Joined: Posts: 71
    Yeah, Lyghts Out definitely uses turbo. He taunts people during matches, talks shit, and accuses people of using turbo constantly. He even accused ME of using it. I can't even get a reversal out half the time and have a hard time mashing real quick with my standard X-Box controller, so just because I predict his moves and throw him, he thinks I turbo.

    Lyghts Out, how about you stop using that fucking turbo and play the game properly. Also, stop gloating whenever you win a match. You're not that cold at this game, dude. I might not be the greatest, but I can definitely tell that without turbo, you're nothing.
  • BuktoothBuktooth vietnamazing Joined: Posts: 1,713 mod
    err, not that i care or anything, but my losses at ncr were to sirlin in winners and dgv in losers. i got 4th place
    -Campbell Tran

    as of 12/02/09:

    me: did pz john ever give the japanese players their money
    bas: hahah of course no
  • joeresiorexjoeresiorex RIP CVS2! 4-15-2010 Joined: Posts: 183
    Hey JV and phlush...You both are my friends but I dont get why its a big deal I play with people who use turbo all the time I just dont understand how it gives them a upper hand besides the fact of the grab but to me turbo is hard to use because its random same buttons getting pressed in my oppinion..but I guess in a tournament its just diff...And I thought you didnt play anymore on live JV. IDK I remember you all use to be cool and stuff why care about something small? Funny thing is reading stuff like this makes me want to play again LOL I stop and then get the feeling of playing. Well just wanted to see whats up because I know you both and you should keep it cool..
    1. facebook.com/pages/JoeresioREX/188444049880?ref=ts
    2. Face book: Joeresio Blake
    3: Youtube.com/Joeresio
    4. gamertagpics.com/xbox-live-profile/joeresioREX
  • Ev1LEv1L Joined: Posts: 292
    Wow dogging snake eyes? Dude won evo, you? umm ? Not sure why you have this elitist attitude, when you've never accomplished anything in HDR. Also not sure why you act like a big dog on the internet, but act like a pup in person. It's all games, but keep that macho stuff to yourself, no ones buying what you're selling.


    Just admit to it, and stop using turbo, problem solved. Now because of completely disregarding video proof, don't be surprised when a judge checks your magic pad at a tournament, if I lose my entry fee because of turbo, that could be troublesome.


    Good player, but not even the top players share your diva like attitude.
    Veni, vidi, vici
  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    You should have just let it drop Lyghts. You not making your case look any better dropping snake eyes name. Especially since you were the one dropping N bombs.

    Oh yeah, don't think I forgot about you calling me a chink in that IRC room back when you hosted that online tourney.

    The internets really got your twisted man. That's not how grown ups behave man.
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  • rcaidorcaido Dynamic Bayside Duo Joined: Posts: 8,251
    Im curious about these turbo's that fucken madcatz products have...I mean seriously these are suppose to be tournament edition yet there are turbo's on the stick & pads? SRK sponsors this shit & blows my mind, anyway to my question...

    In major tournaments how strict are they in checking people's stick/pad before a match starts? Do players test the other persons equipment before playing? Has there been people caught cheating?

    I entered a tournament before & i remember not much regulation was there. Its almost like you had to police it yourself, some dude i was wrecking & then busted out akuma. I was like WTF, you cant use akuma & we had drawn out argument over it. I refused to play my match until someone let him know that akuma is banned in HDR.

    NOw i realize i didnt even check to see turbo's during events & notice people just went straight out & played their matches after button check. Im was wondering if people just went w/ the honor code. It would be pretty damn easy to get away w/ using turbo in tournaments because of these shitty madcatz products having ease turbo access to it.
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    err, not that i care or anything, but my losses at ncr were to sirlin in winners and dgv in losers. i got 4th place



    Lyghts always did have a selective memory when it came to his wins and losses.

    It got so bad that i had to photograph my win screens. ( didnt have a vid cam back then ). Incidentally i still have the pics.

    Also Lyghts dont try pulling the race card when you used to refer to me as a british tea drinking chink.
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  • ivysoulcalivysoulcal Joined: Posts: 1
    I been visiting SRK for a long time but never joind cos im pretty scrubby when it comes to fight games. I just wanna learn and i thank you people for improving my game even though i got a long way to go. I dont think id have anything valuable to contribute jus now but im hoping to change that when i learn more. But reading this made me wanna speak out. I never played Lyghtsout on SF4 or SF2 but i used to play him often on Gears Of War 2. Now shooters are definately my thing and he culdnt stand losing on it and kept saying he doesnt play this game and SF is the only skill game out there. I taught him a few things and he was kinda cool but then he asked me to help him cheat and get his gamer score up by glitching. I dunno exactly how its done but back then it was possible to cheat and get max points or achievment or summat and i had every achievment. I said no and he kept on and on and eventually started cussing me out and calling me a dumb nigga, a black rat you name it and he called me it. Every racial slur in the book. So yeah i say this guy is definatly a racist and a cheat and that autofire video vindicates me and everyone he cussed out. Im not gonna get drawn in further and dont wanna get involved but i felt i owe it to you people cos you guys are cool people.

    GGPO
  • Johnny JusticeJohnny Justice Gigaton blow Joined: Posts: 135
    Lyghts always did have a selective memory when it came to his wins and losses.

    It got so bad that i had to photograph my win screens. ( didnt have a vid cam back then ). Incidentally i still have the pics.

    Also Lyghts dont try pulling the race card when you used to refer to me as a british tea drinking chink.

    Let's see the pics....
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  • DNGR S PAPERCUTDNGR S PAPERCUT Joined: Posts: 1,608
    Looks like lyghts has split personalities. sounds pretty severe from the spectrum of responses on this thread. makes me lolz. his nick should be jekyll-N-hyde
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  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    Someone asked me to post up the pics of my wins over Lyghts.

    I'm trying to find my old phone that stored the pics. Iv had about 5 phones since then.

    Anyway still looking so bear with me but here are a couple of pics that were on my Hard drive just to tide you over. Doesnt really show too much beyond a couple of wins im afraid.

    Pictures by Eltonchong - Photobucket

    Also on there are pics of lyghts sending me abuse plus a photo he sent me of himself.

    Basically he sent me what he obviously considered was an intimidating picture and a message saying that he would physically destroy me, suffice it to say that i lolled. Arms and legs like a labrador spring to mind.

    Anyway back then i was lyghts nemesis. He has improved but for whatever reason he had no way to beat me back then. His crowning achievement was this victory.



    Have you upgraded your bubble tv yet lyghts?

    Other pics on there are pics of my old DOA stick plus the immortal plank which is what i fasten my sticks to. The plank has a mysterious quality and i cant play without it. The day the plank is destroyed is the day i will be forced to quit the game.

    Also there is a pic of 2 nasty looking blondes that look like eastern european whores from one of Vanilla Tears videos. Not my girlfriends i assure you. People with a good memory will remember this from when i destroyed another liar but we wont go there.
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  • WhatsNext12WhatsNext12 what the prolem is? Joined: Posts: 73
    lol this is hilarious. i could give 2 shits either way on this but damn. i mean i think the fact that he hasnt responded really to any of this should answer all your questions. wonder what his new gt is? lol
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346

    WAIT HOW COME I HAVE A VID OF HIM AND THOSE CRAZY INPUTS ARE GONE? Shit i hope i still have that saved either way i know the real lyghts out. .



    Sure enough, the crazy inputs are gone in this vid. More proof if any was needed that he used turbo in the original vid, nothing to do with some secret technique. Sorry Phlush but Lyghts lied to you, your first instinct was correct. Seems this vid was posted after the initial controversy so Lyghts wasnt gonna make that mistake again.

    Still there however is Lyghts foul attitude!! He even went as far as to call this guy a weabul :0

    This is yet another small glimpse into the world of the real lyghts out. The safe as houses mr nice guy is reserved only for when he is in the spotlight and amongst known faces. ( actually the guy he was playing is a decent player but Lyghts clearly didnt recognise him )



    Also i wanna reiterate that the fact he used turbo on the original vid means he most likely used it on remix. Circumstantial as it may be, many players have "detected" his turbo use over the years. Again the "legit" Lyghts out is only reserved for his friends and people he is cool with. When he thinks the cameras arent rolling this guy is one nasty bit of work and the turbo is there in full effect. I always knew he was using turbo against me, that feeling of being sucked in like a hoover when being thrown is unmistakeable.

    Tell me, why should we believe otherwise when there is so much evidence and testimony from legit players that he is a racist and a liar.

    Fact is Lyghts has used turbo online and most probably offline. I doubt if people are checking for turbo use at offline tourneys, RCAIDO already asked that question. There is an inherent trust and honour amongst players at these events, most new controllers and sticks are turbo enabled. I think the assumption is that noone would be brazen enough to use a turbo in an offline tourney.

    Who is gonna defend a racist liar and a proven turbo user?
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  • SeikuRyuSeikuRyu ARSF LETS GO Joined: Posts: 2,117
    Oh hey I remember this match. Before this match I played his Ryu twice. I don't remember him taking a round. Looking at the video it's pretty obvious he's a masher. He might have had a better chance fighting me if he used turbo.

    His Ryu, Sagat: they're both garbage. My Ryu and Sagat are way better than this scrub. He might have made a name for himself in HDR but he's ass in 4. The messages at the end of the video are not over exaggerated, the guy's just a douche and complete garbage at street fighter. You don't understand anything about SSF4.

    Lyghts 0ut, you need to man up.
    I know you're (Skatan) supposed to be the best sakura player who posts here, and you probably are, but the things you say are just dumb.
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  • KacomKacom Joined: Posts: 268
    I hate when SF4 only players post in HDR/VST threads.

    YEAH BRO, YEAH BRO STREET FIGHTA FO, STREEF FIGHTA FO!!! SHITS FREE JU HEARD LIKE!


    p.s My bad if you're not a SF4 only player. I'm just in the asshole mood hehaahaheheha! Yeah off topic asinine posts ftw...
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    I hate when SF4 only players post in HDR/VST threads.

    YEAH BRO, YEAH BRO STREET FIGHTA FO, STREEF FIGHTA FO!!! SHITS FREE JU HEARD LIKE!


    p.s My bad if you're not a SF4 only player. I'm just in the asshole mood hehaahaheheha! Yeah off topic asinine posts ftw...


    Dont worry yourself about it Kacom.

    Always remember the saying "my enemies enemy is my friend"
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  • ProdThaGreatProdThaGreat Joined: Posts: 38
    Dont worry yourself about it Kacom.

    Always remember the saying "my enemies enemy is my friend"
    LOL listen people to end this thread im gonna post a video debunking the theory of lyghts out actually being able to mash all that shit on the throw tech frames. I play on a te stick. Im gonna tap one button with two fingers and that button is gonna be macroed to throw. I didnt get nearly as many inputs as lyghts out AND THATS ON STICK. Now i turned the turbo on and those inputs popped up like nothing. Expect the video later this week
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  • zenzenzenzen キムチ悪い Joined: Posts: 3,488
    whoa whoa brothers don't hate on my favorite FG playing jew mitchel steinman

    Lyghts 0ut is pretty pro at raging easily. The fact that you can rage and use turbo (in any game period) is pretty silly to me. It's like raging that you lost in MMPR SNES with Ivan Ooze (however I would not be surprised if Lyghts 0ut would lose to anyone in MMPR SNES with Ivan Ooze!)
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  • Johnny JusticeJohnny Justice Gigaton blow Joined: Posts: 135
    I'm curious as to why this thread even exists?
    Even if what people say about Lyghts is true, what's wrong with using turbo or being racist anyway??
    God put me on this earth to rush your sh*t down!
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    whoa whoa brothers don't hate on my favorite FG playing jew mitchel steinman


    Sshhhhh, dont you know that Lyghts reads this forum and now next time he plays SeikuRyu he's gonna start with the holocaust denial trash talking.

    Anyway Prodigy i look foward to that vid later in the week.

    Also AOD, now we have demonstrated that yes Lyghts uses turbo, he is a liar, and a racist, i wanna ask you if that is the kind of guy you want on your team.

    At best his credibility is shot to pieces. I will be emailing all major tourney promoters with Lyghts picture and details and this thread to ensure they check his pad and are vigilant for turbo use. All the while he remains a member of AOD I will have to advise them that he is a representative of AOD one of the premier clans on XBL.

    At worst he is a proven racist. We know he used the "N" Bomb on Snakeyes and others on here. Phlush you are black, how can you permit someone like this to be on your team.

    All the racist talk to chinese people, the lies, the way he conducts himself all over the place, come on phlush.

    Maybe he has been cool with you but bottom line is if i had a friend who was racist, disrespectful etc i would disown them in an instant. You have to judge him by how he treats other people.

    Many years ago i told ceasar that Lyghts was bad for business and he disagreed and said he thought he was good for business.

    Seems i was right but it isnt too late.

    This guy needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history, liars, racists and snakes before he brings your whole team down.

    All the while you allow him to remain you are implicitly endorsing all his antics.
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  • Ev1LEv1L Joined: Posts: 292
    That lyghts scrub couldn't make top 8, perhaps he needed turbo roids lol. but but but he's "good" pfft.......
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  • SG10xSG10x Blanka Sucks Joined: Posts: 402
    Hey guys just gotta say that Lyghts Out showed up to NCR, and he can play. He didn't make top 8 though but the tournament was pretty stacked with heavy hitters. I give him props for showing up to tournaments though since that is what the scene needs.
  • Elton ChongElton Chong AKA Herbert Wong Joined: Posts: 346
    Hey guys just gotta say that Lyghts Out showed up to NCR, and he can play. He didn't make top 8 though but the tournament was pretty stacked with heavy hitters. I give him props for showing up to tournaments though since that is what the scene needs.


    Right on there Cans. Precisely what the scene needs, more racist turbo users to liven things up.

    I bet he was as quiet as a nun in person though. Shame he didnt hit top 8, I thought he was gonna destroy everyone. Where is he now?

    Believe me if he placed we would all be hearing about it. So the tourney was stacked with heavy hitters? Sure it was, that plus the fact that Lyghts cant do shit without his turbo and trash talking to fall back on.

    Anyway just a couple of quick questions i wanna pose to you Cans.

    Does it bother you that your online friend Mr Lyghts is a racist? Do you overlook it or just ignore it cos he's cool with you? Would you be friends with someone in the real world who is racist?

    I dont think we can ignore the testimony of so many people.

    What is it gonna take for some people to denounce him. Do we need to catch this mexican hitler red handed at a Ku-klux clan meet, robed up and all? Is it gonna take for him to be involved in a lynching at EVO? What the hell.
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  • MisterEgoTripMisterEgoTrip Bask in Sumo Prowess Joined: Posts: 943
    Damn, this thread is still going?!? What more can you say about this guy? Fawk it, I think the jury already in on this matter. Those that hate him have already expressed that a million times and the reasons have been duly noted! The HDR community is shrinking as is, and as long as he continues to play and even show up at tourneys then more power to him. Most online players that have beef with him just avoid him and I guess he does the same.

    Of course sh!t-talking would piss anyone off but have you guys played any other games online on XBOX, it's actually worse playing FPS games. Fortunately there's a mute option to mute a particular player if you know they are going to talk trash. And Hatemail is always cool because you know you're doing you motherfawking job...which is winning!

    When I first played Lyghts when I got my xbox, he didn't know who the fawk i was. When I starting winning, yeah I experience the love that only Lyghts himself could give via messages and chatroom sh!t talking. But the more I encountered him and the endless mind games we played, the battle went 50/50 for the most part (when we are playing at peak performance) we just end up earning each other respect.

    As I said, HDR is a shrinking community...I like to see more of the online regulars come out and shine at tourneys...guess that includes me too. Cuz, we got some serious players that can wreck....from the online scene.
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  • Johnny JusticeJohnny Justice Gigaton blow Joined: Posts: 135
    I suspect that Elton just wants to get in with AOD.
    God put me on this earth to rush your sh*t down!
  • Geoff The HeroGeoff The Hero I Like Cats Joined: Posts: 618
    It's lyghts 0ut 4 u!!!!!!!!

    Good night sweet bitch
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  • Johnny JusticeJohnny Justice Gigaton blow Joined: Posts: 135
    Are you sure that was a disco Geoff? Lyghts looked like he was trying to shake out of the dizzy. Most disco'rs become inanimate when they reach for the cord or access the main menu.
    God put me on this earth to rush your sh*t down!
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